Amiga Samplers : Budget dance music in 1990

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  • @CneeKrunch
    @CneeKrunch 4 года назад +1008

    "im just playing around here" *makes absolute jammer*

    • @equal___
      @equal___ 4 года назад +30

      bring the bass in!

    • @How_much_where_and_When
      @How_much_where_and_When 4 года назад +3

      I use Analog Fire are basic I recommend margenweb.com/vs/analog_fire/analog_fire.php?vi=am-2

    • @danielslagter5259
      @danielslagter5259 4 года назад +4

      Really nice video. I like it how you showed us how the late 80's and early 90's dance music was made. 👌

    • @DistortedChrist
      @DistortedChrist 3 года назад +12

      "Pretty cheesy house track there!"

    • @TheDragShot
      @TheDragShot 3 года назад +3

      That's the beauty and power of trackers for ya.

  • @DjRavine
    @DjRavine 3 года назад +2004

    Tfw this guy is jamming and making legit bangers

    • @merumerutho
      @merumerutho 3 года назад +53

      he makes great tunes under the name of ctrix

    • @nibel13
      @nibel13 3 года назад +2

      @Bertram Ocasio lol random

    • @Artiifakt
      @Artiifakt 3 года назад +3

      Ravine your mixes defined my highschool days man, gonna check out your new stuff now

    • @TDGCmote
      @TDGCmote 3 года назад

      nice seeing you here :D

    • @BigCrashTrackLoop
      @BigCrashTrackLoop 3 года назад

      @@merumerutho Thank you, you just answered my question!

  • @jaybrooks1098
    @jaybrooks1098 3 года назад +340

    “And we’ve run out out of memory” lol. Don’t miss any of that

    • @wuxmedia
      @wuxmedia 3 года назад +28

      Yeah but it stopped bloat. 4 tracks as well. If it was good you kept it otherwise it was out. Not 16 tracks of mediocrity.

    • @PiddeBas
      @PiddeBas 3 года назад +3

      @@wuxmedia Very true

    • @jamescuttsmusicjcm5013
      @jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 3 года назад +1

      i was just going to say that.... rofl. ah, good old Amiga days. fortunately, i was old enough to game, not old enough to know you could make music on it. 🤣.

    • @m4ssee
      @m4ssee 3 года назад +2

      Different days same problems. These days you run in the same issues if you try to add too many VSTs to your project. Not really a problem if you only use virtual instruments but when tracking real instruments it's a pain in the ass.

    • @jamescuttsmusicjcm5013
      @jamescuttsmusicjcm5013 3 года назад

      @@m4ssee I never run out of memory. Grab more maybe. Haha.

  • @2trancentral
    @2trancentral 3 года назад +17

    "You never forget the first time you saw an Amiga"..so true, i was 9, one of the best days of my life. ❤

  • @abstractbrainscans
    @abstractbrainscans 4 года назад +388

    I love how happy this guy sounds. He’s really in his element. 😄

    • @Vitaliuz
      @Vitaliuz 4 года назад +26

      I know, right? I instantly had the "awesome guy who knows its stuff" vibe, from the first seconds of the video. =D

    • @DJBigDubs
      @DJBigDubs 4 года назад +11

      Check out his album A for Amiga on band camp. It’s fantastic.

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +57

      Cheers @horatio. It's funny the amount of gear I've played with over the years, yet this computer still provides me the most fun when it comes to making tunes.

    • @aarotdelao1279
      @aarotdelao1279 4 года назад +1

      @@Vitaliuz Definitely

    • @alpharoom7663
      @alpharoom7663 4 года назад +1

      @@CTRIX64 Awesome video dude! Inspired me to get more creative with less tools! @19:06 is this a Microbrute? If so, could you share this lead patch? Thank you! keep it up :)

  • @LGR
    @LGR 4 года назад +1192

    All right, this was awesome. I've always wanted to try this on my A500 so it's really cool to see the process laid out like this. Thanks for putting this together, looks like a ton of fun!

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +103

      No problems Clint! HMU if you need any software (I'm sure you are on the GoTek or HXC tip!) I'd recommend ProTracker 2.3d with it's built in sampling options. It's just about the right combination of capable-but-limiting and is some serious fun. OctaMED really needed an Amiga 1200 with accelerator card to get 8 channels - I think people sometimes forget this. ps. I'm looking at making a limited run of Amiga 500 mono samplers later this year... so maaaay be able to send one your way ;-)

    • @MaximilienNoal
      @MaximilienNoal 4 года назад +4

      Amiga forever ! :) I wonder what an Amiga 1200 would bring to it (more memory aside). ;-)

    • @N64Guy
      @N64Guy 4 года назад +9

      SIT ON MY FACE CLINT!!!!!!!

    • @N64Guy
      @N64Guy 4 года назад +5

      LGR SIT ON MY FACE CLINT!!!!

    • @ethnikLSD
      @ethnikLSD 4 года назад +10

      geeeetings, this is an LGR amiga thing...

  • @DarthAnubis1138
    @DarthAnubis1138 4 года назад +220

    This reminds me of being a small kid back in 91/92, and spending hours in my uncles room watching him cut together tracks.
    His room was just floor to ceiling vinyls, tapes, and 8 tracks, and him in the corner with his Amiga, synths, and hi-fi system blowing the roof off the place.
    It was quite the education 😂

    • @bobsondugnutt5688
      @bobsondugnutt5688 3 года назад +18

      Do you have access to any recordings he made? Would love to hear

    • @umrasangus
      @umrasangus 3 года назад +4

      @@bobsondugnutt5688 SAMEEE

    • @seanwarren9357
      @seanwarren9357 3 года назад +1

      Ahh, the good old days.

    • @RimshotsandNamaste
      @RimshotsandNamaste 3 года назад

      Can we listen to some stuff he did?

    • @DarthAnubis1138
      @DarthAnubis1138 3 года назад +12

      @@RimshotsandNamaste I don’t think I have any of his stuff, he emigrated to Canada in 98, and he passed away from cancer in 2019, so I don’t know how much of his stuff is still around. I’ll have to email his husband to see if he kept anything, but as far as I know, all his gear was donated to a community music charity, but any of his old recordings and mixes would be on cassette, so it’s anyone’s guess where they could be

  • @Mikehibbett
    @Mikehibbett 2 года назад +464

    12 minutes in.. "Cheesy sounding house track"? Hell no, I love it! It's perfect to listen to while I'm running. I've cut it to a loop.

    • @therealsteaklife70
      @therealsteaklife70 2 года назад +13

      you obsessed

    • @DiegoMidnightSun
      @DiegoMidnightSun 2 года назад +5

      @@therealsteaklife70 🤣

    • @aaleeksii
      @aaleeksii 2 года назад +20

      ikr?! it slaps

    • @CatFish107
      @CatFish107 2 года назад +13

      Nothing wrong with enjoying a bit of cheese. I dig it too.

    • @Abruzzo333
      @Abruzzo333 2 года назад +14

      You should look into early house, breakbeat/rave/ techno etc. Way better stuff to hear from that history...literally thousands of tracks.

  • @benrosenberg3489
    @benrosenberg3489 3 года назад +902

    If that's cheesy house music, I guess I have cheesy music taste. That was fire

    • @0v_x0
      @0v_x0 3 года назад +23

      #tfw you realize how much 🔥 jungle was probably made on 8bit computers back in the day.

    • @trashyraccoon2615
      @trashyraccoon2615 3 года назад +15

      @@0v_x0 Amiga is 16bit

    • @0v_x0
      @0v_x0 3 года назад +11

      @@trashyraccoon2615 ya my bad. I was thinking of older Commodore sound chips, and the 12-bit rack samplers (e.g. Akai) that were popular for jungle beats at the time I guess, idk how I pulled 8-bit out of my ass. Good lookin out

    • @trashyraccoon2615
      @trashyraccoon2615 3 года назад +5

      @@0v_x0 Lol, it’s all good. Eh well, 8bit was pretty popular at the time. I’m friends with the dude in the video, he makes awesome shit

    • @0v_x0
      @0v_x0 3 года назад +2

      @@trashyraccoon2615 sweet, links? I use modern software for downtempo, but subscribe to a few old school sampler/tracker channels

  • @Mnnvint
    @Mnnvint 4 года назад +461

    When you're 38, as I am, it sort of blows your mind that this was really only big for 4, 5 years at most. It was such a huge thing back then.

    • @meatybtz
      @meatybtz 4 года назад +77

      Thing is, it was from the MOD scene that you launched Trance, techno, and lead to club music and EDM of today. Those multi-button boxes are just tracking "hardware". In fact a lot of the rhythms, samples, and mods ended up in some of the "greatest" hits as it were. Folks were still sampling records and crunching mods, cutting custom records and then using them in live DJ mixes in the Underground Raves of the 90s. I should know. I cut samples and made some MODs that my brother would use for live work. So yeah. To me this is the sound of the ground-floor of all modern EDM/Electronica. The software used today has advanced but core concepts remain. The "iconic sound" was established by the old 8-bit limitations.
      Of course there were commercial operations in play. Least we forget the ever amazing Miami Sound Machine. Hehe. Good times.

    • @gblargg
      @gblargg 4 года назад +20

      It's interesting how the basis for trance, a single melody line jumping between different parts, probably has its basis in just having a few channels to work with on trackers. Even so it's a great style, which would be enjoyable even if there never had been any channel limitations.

    • @mvandenhof
      @mvandenhof 4 года назад

      Yup! :D

    • @lawine
      @lawine 4 года назад +16

      It was a big thing for a bit longer than 5 years if you look outside of just the amiga. The tracker music scene pretty much lasted into the late 90's/early 2000's. Broadband is really what killed it imo.

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +17

      @@lawine Yeah - that's in the text in the credits. Amiga sampler / 4ch scene was until around 1993 / 95, then OctaMED really took over, the Sound Blaster generation had Impulse Tracker and other formats which kept it going. Technically, tons of people (myself included) still use trackers like Renoise.

  • @psitaxx
    @psitaxx 3 года назад +90

    This Man is so passionate about what he does, it really warms up my cold, shallow heart

  • @EmlynInTheMix
    @EmlynInTheMix 3 года назад +70

    Damn you know what, that was a lot of work to make music back in the day! Massive respect to those electronic music pioneers!!

    • @esmooth919
      @esmooth919 2 года назад +2

      It's still just as much work when it comes to searching for and chopping samples. It's even more difficult when you cannot find the sound you're looking for

    • @rhinoskin7550
      @rhinoskin7550 Год назад +4

      @@esmooth919 That's when you make it!

  • @Phredd2k1
    @Phredd2k1 4 года назад +267

    This takes me back to 1993 when I was a 14 year old kid using FastTracker 2 with my SoundBlaster 16 to make music.

    • @RoadStuffUK
      @RoadStuffUK 4 года назад +6

      Pretty much the same as me, still got all my old tracker stuff.

    • @KreapOfficial
      @KreapOfficial 4 года назад +7

      i was off the amiga by 93, loved the clarity 16 bit sampler though. that was as far as i got with amiga hardware. then i went akai and atari st.

    • @stevenross-watt8640
      @stevenross-watt8640 4 года назад +8

      Making mods and XM files

    • @ChristianIce
      @ChristianIce 4 года назад +3

      hear hear.

    • @stevenross-watt8640
      @stevenross-watt8640 4 года назад +4

      @@zash721 33mhz 486sx and Gravis sound card. Ultrasound

  • @nikitavychuz
    @nikitavychuz 3 года назад +823

    It's ILLEGAL to make such jams and then not release them

    • @s.j.lattuf92
      @s.j.lattuf92 3 года назад +33

      This is called a "mash-up" song. But yeah, when it comes to make a song from samples of different songs, there would be hell to pay. Publishers sues, and pays the damage.

    • @nikitavychuz
      @nikitavychuz 3 года назад +71

      @@s.j.lattuf92 Mash-ups are mash-ups, they usually feature little editing. debuglive samples very tiny bits of the songs to create something completely different, I'm 100% sure no one would sue them

    • @CriticalTechReviews
      @CriticalTechReviews 3 года назад +54

      @@s.j.lattuf92 This type of thing falls under fair use. Also I think you misunderstood their point, they said NOT releasing these quality tracks is illegal (because they're really good) (it's a joke).

    • @drudigger
      @drudigger 3 года назад +34

      @@s.j.lattuf92 Sorry but this is literally how music is made and no one is suing anyone. These samples are tiny and edited beautifully.

    • @s.j.lattuf92
      @s.j.lattuf92 3 года назад

      @@drudigger the Warner Chappell does. Only if they sell their mash-up for money.

  • @pedrocampinopt
    @pedrocampinopt 4 года назад +169

    Dude you have some serious skills. I wish I saw this video in the 80's/90's...

    • @Vitaliuz
      @Vitaliuz 4 года назад +3

      Indeed!

    • @DJBigDubs
      @DJBigDubs 4 года назад +7

      His artist name is c trix. Check out his album A for Amiga on Band Camp. It’s killer.

    • @Madrrrrrrrrrrr
      @Madrrrrrrrrrrr 4 года назад

      @@DJBigDubs Doesn't sound like how he cuts up that Surface 7" around 14:14. Too bad he had to put in that DX lead again ( yep overused on the A is for Amiga album) But that part is bad ass! Get some synth filtered stabs in there and such. 12:14 before it gets a mess is also cool. I would press that on 12"

    • @ThomasJr
      @ThomasJr 4 года назад

      in the 80s? Lol, how?

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +5

      @@Madrrrrrrrrrrr Yeah - the DX lead I'm on the fence about still! Thinking of making it straight up instrm groove disco.

  • @m4ssee
    @m4ssee 3 года назад +334

    I can't express how interesting this is. These days being able to program chart-topping beats on an average PC is a given but I've always wondered how things worked out back in the day. Also, these demo tracks sound like absolute bangers!

    • @darwiniandude
      @darwiniandude 2 года назад +21

      Back then PC's didn't have digital audio at all. Only the PC speaker, capable of beeps. Mac had digital audio since 84, but single channel. To play multiple channels and transpose pitches like Amiga could, the Mac had to use the CPU to do the work. The same ~8mhz 68000 chip that was in Amiga. But Amiga had the Paula chip, capable or playing back four channels of audio in hardware with no CPU load at all. So the CPU was left to do other things, running the UI, running the game that the music was used in, or later on with software mixing allowing more than four channels on Amiga. Octamed was a tracker allowing 8 channels for example. One thing I find interesting is because Paula is hardware, you'll notice in the video when he's triggering samples from the Amiga's keyboard, there is no perceptible latency. That was only possible later on PC with specific sound cards with their own playback hardware and their own ram, the Gravis UltraSound, the SoundBlaster AWE series and some others. Later it could all be done in software but latency was a big issue with software solutions until Steinberg invented and released the ASIO driver model.

    • @burger_shake1405
      @burger_shake1405 Год назад +4

      I couldnt agree more! Ive been pouring over these videos and its amazing to learn about. Ive been composing with FL Studio for the past 3 years and I can see where they pulled from with these videos going over how it was done near the beginning! Ive been sharing these videos to everyone I know thats even remotely interested in music, I cannot get enough of this. And these tracks are FANTASTIC!

    • @terenceskill9526
      @terenceskill9526 Год назад +3

      What do you mean, back then? There are tons of commercial hits out there made with FL Studio, Ableton and other producing software solutions. It doesn´t even cost you tons of money to get your hands on those products.

    • @m4ssee
      @m4ssee Год назад +3

      @@terenceskill9526 Did any of those softwares even exist in the 80-90´s? That's what we're talking about. Nowadays even a $500 laptop can run them.

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator Год назад +2

      @@darwiniandude Amiga could do 7 channels in TFMX format. 16 Channels and more depending on how good CPU you had in AMIGA.

  • @andrzejkatkov8597
    @andrzejkatkov8597 4 года назад +151

    As someone who basically grew up on tracker music, I would like to thank you very much. This melted my heart.

  • @Privacy-LOST
    @Privacy-LOST 4 года назад +19

    I wish I had such a tutorial when I was a kid back then. It took me 5 years to painstakingly assemble all that knowledge that is now packed up in a 10mn video

  • @fartex1
    @fartex1 3 года назад +67

    imagine, stumbeling on to this video, watching it, and realising you still have your "old" amiga 1200 carefully stocked in a room. running upstairs, unpacking it, and listening to the "crap" music you made yourself back in the early 90's....
    i spent countless days fiddeling around with protracker, entering all them command to the notes....
    ah nostalgia :D

  • @NikkiAyumu
    @NikkiAyumu 3 года назад +44

    I just watched the history of the Amiga Commodore, "From Bedroom to Billionaires" and it amazes me that there were (are!) scenes like these, populated by highly passionate, talented people. That last mix is dope!

  • @afaydilek
    @afaydilek 4 года назад +288

    what you did here as an example is actually sounds dope

  • @sofascialistadankulamegado1781
    @sofascialistadankulamegado1781 3 года назад +90

    Dude you have a pony tail. You are a legit source of music production information.

  • @lainet
    @lainet 4 года назад +143

    I remember as a kid going to a music store with a friend of mine and recording a lot of synthesizer sounds to a cassette tape for this exact usage. The staff had no idea what we were doing and why. :D

    • @i3luevein
      @i3luevein 4 года назад +2

      haha yeh I did that too with my pals - wish I had kept some of our tracks, would bring back some great memories

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +8

      ​@@i3lueveinYeah. It's amazing how you loose tracks! Incredibly, most of my MOD music survived except for a few tracks on 5.25" floppy. Everything from the point where I switched to AWE32 + SF is gone. As is anything I did on our family digital piano + hardware arranger. I've got a roof-high stack of cassettes but it's all recordings from the radio. I know I often recorded over my demos because in my mind I could always re-load the floppies and record them to tape again. Crazy hey

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +3

      ​@@i3luevein Haha - I didn't quite have that confidence as a 10yo. But by the time I came back around to electronic music I had my MD recorder and certainly did some "I want to listen at home before I commit to buying this" recordings. I'm sure they guessed what I was doing :-P Especially when I dropped back in for a 16GB smartmedia card a few days later.

    • @RSProduxx
      @RSProduxx 4 года назад

      @@i3luevein yeah, kinda sad that i don´t have my early tapes anymore... i bet there´d be some songs that´d surprise me today :)

    • @jesusdacoast872
      @jesusdacoast872 4 года назад

      😈😎

  • @DanZaiOfficial
    @DanZaiOfficial 3 года назад +29

    I had an Amiga 500 and I remember discovering that most games contained audio samples. So I sat down for hours and copied them into categories onto separate floppy disks. octamed was the only music software I had

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan Год назад +4

      octamed wasnt bad.
      of course cpying sample-disks or ST-xx was commonplace in the BBS scene in which i was in.
      I still have the machines, sx64, atari ste, A500+, A1000, A4000 with vga and ethernet...,
      Only the harddrive did not make it.

  • @_STRIKEMEDIA_
    @_STRIKEMEDIA_ 4 года назад +106

    dude, this songs are actually fire
    edit: PLEASE RELEASE THEM SOMEWHERE!!!!

    • @rl0tbz859
      @rl0tbz859 3 года назад +4

      please share these songs! they are awesome, thanks!

    • @seanwarren9357
      @seanwarren9357 3 года назад +2

      They are here. XD

    • @taidgheshea9625
      @taidgheshea9625 3 года назад +2

      Sample it!

    • @mister_mozzarella
      @mister_mozzarella 3 года назад +2

      This guy makes music on Spotify as cTrix

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 2 года назад

      ​@@mister_mozzarella only the A For Amiga album is on Spotify, nothing else is. Funky Beat, Proto Mix, Thanks Roy and Miles Per Pattern can be found with a bit of Google searching, though.

  • @maggoty
    @maggoty 4 года назад +33

    I remember Guitar Slinger. My mate and I were amazed by the quality of that track. Such a good song.

  • @SickickMusic
    @SickickMusic 3 года назад +381

    so freaking dope

    • @serioussam2033
      @serioussam2033 3 года назад +6

      Gonna break the bank now, fuck my cracked version of fl20 and all the vst3 shit i got.

    • @adamkumpmusic
      @adamkumpmusic 3 года назад

      No sickick, you are dope

    • @plasmazulu6643
      @plasmazulu6643 3 года назад +1

      Hey, Lomaticc. 😉

  • @C64CMDMAD
    @C64CMDMAD 2 года назад +12

    How smart were people back then, like your self, to improvise and make their own sound collection. I did not know my Amiga could do this, so Awesome. Good on ya, and also loved the Coldcut , Lisa Stansfield music..back when music was amazing! I did the same thing on my humble C64.

  • @supergeorge72
    @supergeorge72 3 года назад +75

    This is what I call top quality content. Good job, enjoy every second of the video. An explosion of creativity and passion for music. Congratulations.

    • @Zedek
      @Zedek 3 года назад +3

      "Top quality" and "content" basically contradict, because "content" is filler garbage like TikToks. This here is a fully-blown documentary.

  • @mycms99
    @mycms99 4 года назад +51

    Maybe one of the best RUclips vids I've seen in ages. I collected mods and sids back in the day, was never brave enough to actually try and make my own. This has inspired me to get the Amiga out and give it a go! Thanks!

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +3

      Awesome! No Amiga likes to be left feeling sad in a cupboard. Hopefully the floppies still read - else, check out a GoTek :-)

  • @devjock
    @devjock 4 года назад +132

    aaaand we're outta memory. Omg, the nostalgia!

    • @Grahamrobinsonvt802
      @Grahamrobinsonvt802 4 года назад +2

      devjock could be a techno song

    • @Desmaad
      @Desmaad 4 года назад +1

      Time to look into getting more.

    • @tanelehala6422
      @tanelehala6422 4 года назад +2

      Sample that sentence and make a song :)

  • @classicarcadeamusementpark4242
    @classicarcadeamusementpark4242 2 года назад +6

    I was using sampling back in 1985 on my Amiga 1000. In 1986, I got an adapter to make my own sound samples which I used to make of instrument sounds. The device came with software to play back the samples in real-time using a MIDI keyboard, and also included the ability to save them in the Amiga's industry standard IFF format.
    My Amiga was used like an Ensoniq Mirage or Fairlight, in the mid 80s. I even had software that made the Amiga emulate the Mirage sampler and was compatible with disks made for it. I purchased 30 of them and used them in my bands. No other computer was even close to this ability in the mid 80s to run "soft synths". Later, the concept caught on with VST's, but the Amiga had that ability way back in 1985. The Atari ST''s sound chip by comparison was a huge step back from even the C-64, and actually the same chip used in the TI 99/4 produced back in 1979 or 80.

    • @themightytitan4157
      @themightytitan4157 Год назад +2

      I was doing the same. It was great for the time and easy to use.

  • @DCeeMusik
    @DCeeMusik 4 года назад +27

    I hope you release some of these tracks you did. This was dope.

  • @config2000
    @config2000 3 года назад +12

    Guitar slinger - That music track blew my mind back then. I never thought the Amiga could produce music of such high quality.

  • @tails64dsntchannel8
    @tails64dsntchannel8 4 года назад +9

    No need to state the obvious, This is so finely polished, the attention to detail is stunning, the whole thing flows so well it's Simply Marvellous

  • @eagletown8977
    @eagletown8977 3 года назад +11

    This video is what RUclips was meant for IMO.
    These days you have to dig around to come across gems like this.

  • @davidigra
    @davidigra 4 года назад +21

    The Amiga was truly an amazing piece of hardware. So many hours spent playing with music and games :)

  • @FutureMusicMediaLAB
    @FutureMusicMediaLAB 4 года назад +36

    So a great video! This is the story of all of us, condensed in 20 minutes... thanks!

  • @Fr0stbite1801
    @Fr0stbite1801 3 года назад +12

    Man, I always get giddy over seeing old recording tech in action. Makes me really appreciate the tech we got now. Crazy to think that an iphone running garageband practically beats an entire recording studio in the 90s.

  • @mrnauseouz
    @mrnauseouz 3 года назад +18

    Around the time this was uploaded I was making a metal album with 90s dnb elements. I spent a lot of time researching how producers accomplished making their drum loops and breaks because I didn't have a sampler or MPC and was constructing the breaks bit by bit. I learned a lot of producers in the mid/late 90s were using the Amiga to assemble their music. They document themselves speeding up the sample and recording it and then slowing it down in the Amiga to save on memory! Something I didn't even have to consider when recording the EP. Recording it was difficult but this is like a whole other level of thinking about how music is created and assembled. How I didn't end up finding this video until now is beyond me, this would have been a massive help. Very interesting time in tech and music!

  • @djmarkalmond
    @djmarkalmond 4 года назад +80

    What a great trip down memory lane. I remember everything you talked about, the Amiga 500, the tracker software and trying to make home based dance tracks... As Fatboy Slim once said, "We've come a long way Baby!". What is amazing is that while watching this, you opened that software box only to reveal a receipt... Not any receipt, but it was from the mail order shop I was working for at that exact time judging from the date. I worked at MJC Supplies who were based in a town called Letchworth, Herts in UK. I probably packed that package! LoL. It was a great video to watch, thanks for this. Subscribed and Liked.

    • @ThisIsDownstate
      @ThisIsDownstate 4 года назад

      haha thats nuts

    • @therocksolid
      @therocksolid 4 года назад

      It's funny you mention Norman Cook here as he wrote that famous stuff on an Atari ST, not an Amiga :)

    • @RWL2012
      @RWL2012 2 года назад +1

      @@therocksolid yeah an Atari ST with C-Lab Creator (Creator --> Notator --> Notator Logic --> Logic, so an early version of what would become Logic), and Akai S950 samplers and outboard MIDI instruments

  • @eternalism8274
    @eternalism8274 4 года назад +317

    5:15 -- samples for 3 seconds, "And, we're out of memory."

    • @wmonk5642
      @wmonk5642 4 года назад +18

      I guess that was stereo 16 bit 44kHz (btw not sure if it can handle 44 kHz) so runs so quickly out of mem.
      Regular samples were 8Khz mono 8 bits until ImpulseTracker

    • @SamAndrew27
      @SamAndrew27 4 года назад +8

      Yep, I had an Akai S-20 in the mid 90's which used a 1.44 MB "floppy" disk (the smaller one, not the actually floppy 5.5" kind) and it would hold a whole minute or so, haha

    • @PlasticCogLiquid
      @PlasticCogLiquid 4 года назад +4

      Even in the mid 90's I remember recording 10 seconds of a song off a CD and ran out of space :D It wasn't just the hard drive either, you'd run out of RAM fast.

    • @Aleziss
      @Aleziss 4 года назад +8

      and now you can have a 1tb drive no bigger than one of your finger nails !

    • @MaverickM1
      @MaverickM1 4 года назад +8

      Maybe memory was short at the time for a high samplerate stereo sampling BUT in thiat era the games/demos was equipped with amazing tunes. (C64 and) Amiga was the platform where those tunes really printed in and now 30+ years later people still able to remember to every note. Nowadays memory or sample rate isn’t a limit anymore and somehow i can’t remember the music of less than 3-5 yrs old “big” titles...
      C64 and Amiga tunes are unbeatable.

  • @Afrotechmods
    @Afrotechmods 4 года назад +270

    Your videos have incredible production values. I feel like I am watching an episode of Beyond 2000. I am sure you will remember that show ;)

    • @ianteddy
      @ianteddy 3 года назад +4

      Okay do you remember the show before that Towards 2000. I had just started primary school 😷

    • @Sonmz
      @Sonmz 3 года назад

      @@ianteddy I had just graduated from school(17 y.o) :)

    • @mondox6481
      @mondox6481 3 года назад

      What the heck is Beyond 2000?

    • @amjan
      @amjan 3 года назад +6

      @@mondox6481Beyond 2000 was a fantastic weekly popular science program in the 1980/90's!!! It showed new technologies and concepts for groundbraking technologies of the future. And the future was beyond the year 2000.
      In times long before the Internet, programs like that were gems! Each episode was like 25min of bliss :)

    • @mondox6481
      @mondox6481 3 года назад

      @@amjan Thank you for the info! I will look it up now lol

  • @milhouse777
    @milhouse777 3 года назад +67

    Rough times, the music production on the budget was very precarious back then, but it has its charm, and it looks nostalgic even to me who was born in 1990. To this day I still jamming to some oldskool UK Rave music that was probably done in this way, great video!

  • @manny-77
    @manny-77 4 года назад +14

    Great memories! I used to make many songs with my Amiga 500, octamed and an interface to sample sounds with a microphone! I was a child...love my Amiga! ❤️

  • @ChristianIce
    @ChristianIce 3 года назад +261

    I remember slowing down the tape with a little 4 track before sampling and playing at higher pitch afterwards.
    Top quality, dude

    • @mikemeengs4124
      @mikemeengs4124 3 года назад +8

      I did the opposite.

    • @ChristianIce
      @ChristianIce 3 года назад +21

      @@mikemeengs4124
      To get longer samples, sure, but crappier.
      Let's be honest, no one at that time had the passion for samples artifacts, we just like them now because it's vintage :D

    • @mikemeengs4124
      @mikemeengs4124 3 года назад +13

      @@ChristianIce Since sampling time was short, speeding up the sample before sampling and then slowing down the sample for playback was a common technique. And yes, it added a lot of grit.

    • @ChristianIce
      @ChristianIce 3 года назад +2

      @@mikemeengs4124
      Isn't that what I said?

    • @mikemeengs4124
      @mikemeengs4124 3 года назад +2

      @@ChristianIce You mentioned doing the opposite. For higher quality. Right?

  • @JohnBanks1978
    @JohnBanks1978 3 года назад +8

    This is literally amazing! The amiga was light years ahead of the competition in terms of sound back then. In fact, Commodore in general was.

  • @DenkyManner
    @DenkyManner 4 года назад +647

    "cheesy house track"
    A million Streets of Rage fans begin to weep

    • @lukasperuzovic1429
      @lukasperuzovic1429 4 года назад +23

      I like cheese, specially cheddar

    • @smash461986
      @smash461986 4 года назад +9

      @Lemony Snickers I must be listening to a different psytrance coz i hear no cheese.

    • @R0n1n760
      @R0n1n760 4 года назад +9

      I like cheese

    • @Mudtoad100
      @Mudtoad100 4 года назад +6

      Saw the word rage and thought about how the prodigy sampled rage against the machine for fire starter

    • @mikesfx
      @mikesfx 4 года назад +7

      What a great comment, as a Streets of Rage fan, the soundtrack and the songs it ripped off got me into this genre. It's always nice to see other people see this connection too.

  • @mvyper
    @mvyper Год назад +4

    This is awesome 90s cheese. Man, that was the far west of informatics. We will never have another time as charming as the late 80s and early 90s were. I'm so happy to have been an Amiga user during my childhood.

  • @riverw4721
    @riverw4721 2 года назад +3

    Mad that I watched this entire video on another channel before I realised I wasn't watching on the original channel.

  • @ansiaaa
    @ansiaaa 9 месяцев назад +1

    I used to make hip hop tracks in my teens with Fast Tracker 2 on my PC. I learnt how to use it by playing tracks that I found in the CD that came with the video game magazine I used to buy. so much fun!

  • @summerlaverdure
    @summerlaverdure 3 года назад +172

    >"pretty cheesy"
    > actually 1000x fire than most things released today

  • @OddObsolete
    @OddObsolete 3 года назад +25

    This is awesome. I had ProTracker on my A600 as a kid, but never really managed to make anything resembling real music. I had a few floppies with mod tracks that I loved listening to though. Seeing all those commands scrolling by was pure magic!

  • @paulrobinson4960
    @paulrobinson4960 3 года назад +16

    Wow! I had that Stereo Master sampler and had completely forgotten all about it. I remember there was a "Name that Tune" competition on the radio that played a music track in reverse. A friend and I recorded it and played through the Amiga to reverse the reversed track in order to cheat. Only problem was we still didn't know who the artist or track was when it was playing correctly 😂😂

    • @barcodenosebleed5485
      @barcodenosebleed5485 Год назад +1

      Ha! I worked in radio in the early 00s and management had me put together a similar contest. I made sure to chop it up, reverse, and rearrange bits and pieces just so people couldn't do that! Even then, I kept having to make them harder. I suppose if it's someone's favorite tune perhaps there's a subconscious thing going on that triggers the response. That or luck. Some of them were barely intelligible, but we usually got a winner after a few hours.

  • @brunocpimenta
    @brunocpimenta 3 года назад +12

    What you said about using some minutes with your guitar teacher drum machine and recording the sounds to a cassete... dude, what a boss. That was sound engenering and sonic gold mining at a young age! It just blows my mind away.
    Also, thanks a ton for this video. Real quality material

  • @HennyESP
    @HennyESP 4 года назад +78

    That "cheesy sounding house track" had me backspinning

  • @xkitejunkie
    @xkitejunkie 4 года назад +8

    You have basically described my early teenage years! Including sneeking Dad's hi-fi into my bedroom!
    When I should have been doing homework, I was doing exactly this. Fantastic video, great trip down memory lane.

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +1

      It was that or rush the Amiga to the lounge and try and run a crappy RF cable to the TV via the VHS machine!

  • @BADGRRL
    @BADGRRL 4 года назад +18

    This is really important history. Thank you for documenting it! I really need to open up fast tracker sometime and go thru some old projects.

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +3

      Thank you! It's super fun looking at those old projects :-)

  • @leakso1
    @leakso1 3 года назад +40

    I really believe now, all of the music I love from back in the day was made this way, and I didn't realise untill now, that the sound these systems produce and the craftsmanship of the producers sampling skills are as much a part of my love as the overall finished songs. There is a certain sound/groove which comes off these systems that I can't quite put my finger on that I love that I've never heard replicated in modern music productions/daw programs.
    Edit... watching this agin 1 year later. Awsome video.

    • @AnnatarTheMaia
      @AnnatarTheMaia Год назад

      I wish that were true, but unfortunately it isn't. The samples and the hits came from professionals with extremely expensive, professional equipment. This interview with Drax Ltd II (the composer of legendary "Amphetamine") illustrates it quite well: ruclips.net/video/S8hCQWI9WJ0/видео.html

    • @nutsosix7930
      @nutsosix7930 10 месяцев назад

      Plogue Chipsounds with ARIA Engine import iff from Amiga Soundtracker Sample Packs (ST-XX) in original IFF & PCM formats and others. mod.

  • @loneface
    @loneface 4 года назад +137

    He is making better songs on this than I do in Ableton. Witch craft.

    • @synthoelectro
      @synthoelectro 3 года назад +8

      Trackers just make awesome tunes, try Renoise for the modern day.

    • @JonnyParker-
      @JonnyParker- 3 года назад +1

      Don't forget SunVox

    • @YlowX7
      @YlowX7 3 года назад +1

      @@synthoelectro renoise is my first daw. pretty decent. just got into music so it'll take a bit before I make total bangers.

    • @synthoelectro
      @synthoelectro 3 года назад +2

      @@YlowX7 very cool, my first stab at making electronic music was Fast Tracker II, back in 98

    • @gingkarl
      @gingkarl 3 года назад +7

      Try limiting yourself in the beginning I just downloaded lots of vst plug-ins synths etc. And the more I got the worse my racks got. Even if there's an easier way by limiting you get more creative with the things you have and learn them way deeper. But never loose to wild with plug-ins on an experimantel day. And analog synths sound way better and have that hands on feeling and even got pretty cheap by now maybe try behringer for entry level. Maybe watch some videos bout old recording techniques they got pretty creative with the limits of their time even shaping whole genre's which would maybe never been born if they had everything at hand we have now. Anyway rock on :)

  • @bloxyman22
    @bloxyman22 4 года назад +15

    I think there is some charm to those low fi samples that has place even today.

  • @richinleam
    @richinleam 3 года назад +74

    I made so many tunes in Octamed. One of which made it to 12" white label and resulted in a copyright complaint. Job done, 90's style.

    • @vast634
      @vast634 3 года назад +3

      You could bake a pattern in Protracker into a sample, this made you able to use more instruments than 4 at once. Octamed was kind of a bad tracker from usability compared to Protracker, and realtime channel mixing was not really needed with pre-baking.

    • @kingcosworth2643
      @kingcosworth2643 3 года назад

      Nice!

    • @jimmyfandago3211
      @jimmyfandago3211 3 года назад +1

      @@vast634 Octamed later version (I think 6), you could resamaple and have 14bit playback and 8 tracks.

    • @vast634
      @vast634 3 года назад +1

      @@jimmyfandago3211 14bit? Did that use the output volume to increase the bitresolution? Technically there where only 4 8bit hardware channels and a master volume.

    • @jimmyfandago3211
      @jimmyfandago3211 3 года назад +1

      @@vast634 I dont know how they I did it in the software but it blow my mind back in the late 90s. Their was a diference in volume though and bit of lag when a song/track started. Track could be paned instead of hard left/right as well. I ran this on a 1200, a 500 would not do it. Check this out ruclips.net/video/oDXHSFLl4zc/видео.html

  • @Loopermanbeats
    @Loopermanbeats 3 года назад +208

    We need all tracks you made in this video released !
    This is gold content !
    Thank you

  • @AndrewTSq
    @AndrewTSq 4 года назад +20

    Karsten Obarski should be given the nobel prize for something! and a really nice track you made!

  • @SadamFlu
    @SadamFlu 4 года назад +32

    you've solved a 27 year mystery for a 10 year old me. I've always wondered how to get sound into an Amiga.

    • @farhanyousaf5616
      @farhanyousaf5616 4 года назад +3

      My younger brother used to use ScreamTracker on the PC to make music. I never understood it, but I still collect MOD files!

    • @SadamFlu
      @SadamFlu 4 года назад +2

      @MorbidManMusic Formal Beach Wear. they didn't have Google back then... :p

    • @SadamFlu
      @SadamFlu 4 года назад +1

      Exactly, we just had barely a handful of people. Thankfully the people I knew, knew a lot more than what I did. But I never got to hang out with them much, I was only a 10 year old...

  • @Zoli1972s
    @Zoli1972s 4 года назад +66

    Man, you're a genius. I was such an idiot, back in the day I had literally all of this hardware/software sitting around. I had the tracker, the sampling card, an A500, big amounts of stereo equipment and a whole bunch of empty disks. As a 15 years old back then , I would have needed just this one little spark of an idea or inspiration to start a huge EDM DJ career. Unfortunately, there was no one around to show me how to get all this stuff to work together. Quite unfortunate.
    Back in the 90's there was a huge local radio station in Munich called 89 Hit FM/ Radio 2day, playing all kinds of music you used here, I loved that station. This video brought back many nice memories to the 90's.

    • @user-vg5rv5xf4u
      @user-vg5rv5xf4u 4 года назад +2

      You blew it Zoli.

    • @sorbetdessert6839
      @sorbetdessert6839 4 года назад

      u got it or u fack it

    • @EvLoutonian
      @EvLoutonian 4 года назад

      never too late to get back into it!
      (:

    • @grizzlygrizzler8594
      @grizzlygrizzler8594 4 года назад

      I live in Scotland and my first attempt at covering a tune was Off - Electrica Salsa. Loved that tune and did the cover version from memory! Also seem to remember a "Sound of The Rhine" various artist tracks of German techno styles. Do you know the full name of that album?

    • @MrSpiderkells
      @MrSpiderkells 3 года назад +5

      Most of us have some of these regrets dude. Don't dwell on it or it will eat you up.

  • @RagedGecko
    @RagedGecko Год назад +2

    This is one of the most perfect videos done on RUclips regardless of the subject

  • @darkbyte2005
    @darkbyte2005 4 года назад +4

    thank you thank you , so many amiga 500 scene days i remember them... Paula, MC68000 , Bobs, Denise, Angus oh lovely......Brilliant video!!

  • @retroke6560
    @retroke6560 3 года назад +27

    i didn't know people had this much passion for creating music on a computer, these softwares are kinda good for the hardware.

  • @JamesChurchill
    @JamesChurchill 4 года назад +111

    "Knobs everywhere"? Now now, I'm sure they were very nice people when you got to know them :D

  • @zaxolotl
    @zaxolotl Год назад +4

    I want you to know that this video was amazing, and in the past, you helped me get into tracking! I thank you very much for helping inspire the next generation of tracker producers

  • @acpgiga
    @acpgiga 4 года назад +63

    That wierd feeling of "Now that this technology is obsolete, let me see a tutorial on it..."
    Great history lesson though...

  • @menotu000
    @menotu000 4 года назад +11

    I thoroughly enjoyed this blast from the past. I never had an Amiga back in the day. It wasn't till I was in my 30s that I was able to buy a 2000 for myself.

  • @hardminder
    @hardminder 4 года назад +32

    12:03 ''BRING THE BASS IN!'' Hahaha wow amazing!

  • @lanmichaelmix2818
    @lanmichaelmix2818 2 года назад +6

    the real era of electronic music.Things were so much more romantic and creative back then.I love that journey much more than using a DAW today.

  • @joerolet
    @joerolet 3 года назад +8

    My guys a straight specialist! Crazy how much graft the older heads put into making their records! Loved the history and detail of the vid. Amazing to see and hear all this, to be reminded of the original art of how they got electronic records down. Inspiring to be think of how much went into to the process. Thank you for putting this together mate 🔊👌🏻

  • @soutarm
    @soutarm 3 года назад +8

    Woah! You teleported me back to the early 90s when I used to make tracks with Scream Tracker (then Impulse Tracker) on PC!

  • @eldowden
    @eldowden 4 года назад +4

    If we only knew this in the 90's. Love the music and wanted to make our own. Great Video.

  • @underdog_363
    @underdog_363 2 года назад +6

    Wish I could just have all this sounds in a big sound pack with nice VSTs. Love this video! really cool to see how other fellow producers especially the OG's used to make their music.

  • @HowlingMoonCinemas
    @HowlingMoonCinemas 3 года назад +5

    That sounds frick'n AMAZING!! Nothing "cheesy" about any of it whatsoever! Fantastic sounds, chords, stabs, basslines and beats! 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

  • @shoassaf
    @shoassaf 3 года назад +5

    cTrix, this video is truly amazing in every aspect. I'm saying this as a musician, computer tech and a kid from the '80s. Well done. Perfect editing and great music. You've got another subscriber.

  • @kolabboy
    @kolabboy 4 года назад +4

    Oh man, the hours I spent on my friends Amiga in ‘93, using Octamed and recording my shirt attempts to C90s when I should have been revising for my college course!
    Been using Reason for a decade and recently bought a Maschine MK3 and I still loving making music. 🥰

  • @Gjermund-Sivertsen
    @Gjermund-Sivertsen Год назад +1

    Great video. Fast tracker 2 on PC. Great memories. A lot of good music was made by using the trackers back in the days. 🎹😃

  • @michaelforrest
    @michaelforrest 4 года назад +10

    I love how thorough you are in explaining all this!

  • @ginjfoto
    @ginjfoto 4 года назад +7

    Ohhh sweet memories. I had a 80MB harddrive for my Amiga 500. It's a shame, it crashed someday. Almost all my samples and music we're on it ☹️. So i learned the hard way, that backups are essential.

  • @neversleeps1
    @neversleeps1 4 года назад +8

    An Amega sampler and octomed was the best ever thing my dear departed parents did for me. 30 years later I have a massive sample library stretching back to then and a decent home studio

  • @liamobrien154
    @liamobrien154 Год назад +10

    Holy shit! Firstly.. Amazing tune/sample selection my friend . Those fist few tracks were all in my 7” collection as a young lad at school that thought he was cooler than the rest because he bought these tracks instead of kylie and Rick Ashley. Secondly… you’ve just shown me how guys in their bedrooms made the music that I would go on to listen to when I went raving in the early 90’s. And thirdly.. you are one of those guys that is capable of producing those sounds and your are extremely good at it! If you ever come and do a set in the uk then I will legit come and see you play. My advice to you is get you and your kit to Ibiza and show some of those plastic music masters how it was done back in the day! You’ll revolutionise what’s going on out there bro! Just frigging awesome! ❤

  • @RobSymington
    @RobSymington 4 года назад +12

    Amazing! Such a good trip back to my childhood. I remember frightening my GCSE music teacher handing in compositions done with Octamed with overdubbed heavy guitar on cassette 4 track. Limitation = Creativity

  • @NightmareTales
    @NightmareTales 4 года назад +41

    Fantastic video. Really took me back to the early 90s. Thank you!

  • @techbaffle
    @techbaffle 4 года назад +33

    11:57 This song is a whole vibe right there!

  • @jsanzt
    @jsanzt 11 месяцев назад

    Thanks for bringing back memories from my youth playing with the Amiga and these samplers. Can’t believe how many hours I spent doing this!

  • @trulyinfamous
    @trulyinfamous 4 года назад +51

    14:20 I absolutely love this. I wish I had access to this kind of stuff.

  • @hazeldizzy6201
    @hazeldizzy6201 4 года назад +9

    I was a 486dx2 running Fasttracker2 kid, love the video dude !

  • @DarkRedman31
    @DarkRedman31 4 года назад +19

    18:55 Where the line "I'm old but not obsolete" really makes sense!

  • @rayderrich
    @rayderrich 3 года назад +17

    Oh man you brought back so many happy memories just having an MSX computer on display.
    Also what you created on the Amiga with so many limitations sounds better than what I create on my current studio setup, your knowledge shows!
    Thanks a bunch.

  • @julesbenci
    @julesbenci 4 года назад +4

    thanks for the video., this is how i got into music also. my music teacher at highschool had a jupiter 8, and i sampled some raw waveforms to cassette once when he left me alone with it. i still have those sounds . this was pure nostalge for me

  • @tonykett
    @tonykett 4 года назад +5

    memory lane. i used octamed in my bedroom and loved messing around with all the samples. thanks for the blast from the past!

  • @Brain4Zombie
    @Brain4Zombie 4 года назад +12

    I am nearing the 50 and I still love the C64 music and sound :)

    • @CTRIX64
      @CTRIX64  4 года назад +3

      I feel a bit bad for using the 64 as an example because I too love the C64! (and own 3 - all with different SID chips) I still love making the occasional C64 tune - but specifically for the SID sound. Back in 1990, you'd be heckled pretty hard for giving your friends a cassette with a SID tune on it. Plus I only ever had a basic composer program - far from what you can get now with modern C64 trackers.

  • @giullianomartini
    @giullianomartini 2 года назад +4

    This video has some certified Rave House Bangers, holy moly!
    I need urgently an EP with all those tunes.

  • @MinecraftifyFTW
    @MinecraftifyFTW 3 года назад +16

    This just popped into my recommendations today and i had no idea that you where cTrix until i saw the samplename at 14:31 , youre absolutely mad with the tracker and i love your music! please release more on spotify, im addicted.