After watching this video I don’t think I am as terrified of dropping a gas tank on one of these cars as I was before this video. Gracias. But it hasn’t done anything to curb my rage at SAAB’s engineers for not put an access to the fuel pump under the backseat like on the 9-5s.
I need this done on my Saab too and it looks so intimidating to attempt myself. Ugh. 🙁 About a month ago I took my car to a shop who quoted approx $1,300 to do this exact thing. I don’t mind paying for someone’s knowledge and labor, especially for a Saab since many mechanics don’t wanna work on them. Where I run into problems is the shop wanting to charge me almost $600 for the replacement pump when I KNOW you can get one much, much cheaper!! That’s why I told them I’d be in touch if I decided to have it done. Maybe because I’m a female they think I know absolutely nothing... whatever. Anyway, THANK YOU so, so much for sharing this video! You just got another new subscriber! Happy Thanksgiving!
Is that replacement cheaper pump the same brand and quality they want to use? You can almost always find a cheaper aftermarket part, but you might have to pay to get the job done all over again sooner than later with a cheaper one. MAYBE. Tough for a shop want to back that up with a warranty they can stand behind, rather than choosing the more expensive one. PS- there's a NHTSA Recall #11E009000 about certain aftermarket pumps failing, even while driving, causing a stalling and safety concern. I'd wonder if those cheapies fall under the part# range given in the Safety Recall? 🤔
Not sure if you found this out by now, but those clips can be easily removed by pressing them in while pulling back on the line. Just an FYI a minute too late.
Hi Very greatfull for you video! I have a saab 9-3 biopower 2.0 T year 2008 looks to be the same shape on our exhaust pipes guess it has with size of fuel tank, read it somewhere before My car refused start today and let it sit for a couple of hours tried again then started it right away! So I guees my problem is fule pump your video is so detailed so I can't fail! unfortunately I have fill it full to the max before i know the main problem , so I will try to solve that problem before taking it down! once again thanks for your video super satisfied sorry for editing my post, my mobile lives its own life T9 and spells after, if my post was weird Cheers Tony
I just did the job on mine. Whew. Thank you very much for your video. The one piece of advice that I would offer is that it is best to use a 1/4" drive for the rear bolts. This will allow just enough clearance to line up with the 13mm bolts on the straps. And most of the clips will release if you press them in the middle and pull. I only had to get medieval with one.
I just completed this drop and rebuild on my Saab 9-3 2.8 Nordic convertible. With the Vermont Tune I am averaging 9 Miles Per Gallon. Did anyone else have a drop in mileage with the pump change?
Hey right at 10:02 that black bar right in front of the strap for the fuel carriage - you don't show how to get that bar off could you make a video about that part?
That black bar you're referring to is the rear sway bar. You do not need to remove that to drop the fuel tank. Angle the front of the fuel tank downward until the back of the fuel tank clears the sway bar. Then you can lower the fuel tank down more evenly once you clear it.
@@WeakestofWeeks HMMMM I can't get to the screw that holds the strap on the fuel carriage?????? no cap I had a picture but my phone got destroyed I'll try and catch up with you. I dont think it's the sway bar it looks like the bar attaches all the way to the wheel or the braking mechanism???
@@randolphmasters3610 Interesting. Well when I drop the tank I only unscrew the 2 front most tank strap bolts. I dont bother with the other 2 rear ones since they're in a difficult spot.
@@WeakestofWeeks hmmmmmmmm oh wow near the front im not sure mine is like tht but i cant look at my car right now im pretty sure its differrent idk why its a 2004 idk ill try and get back 2 u
I always get hung up reinstalling the lock rings, not just Saabs but everything else too. There's gotta be a trick I'm missing. Great video though, ours died and we had to drop a half full tank
Fuel pump replacement process shown in this video should be near identical for the 2.0l 4cyl engine. Some part numbers like the actual fuel pump assembly will be different.
Yes, I just did it today, using the info on this video! Get the clips and the ring removal tool. Also that line from the inside the tank to the underside of pump, that clip was different from the one in the video. Could be that its a 2005, but thinking its just another replaceable clip I broke it off. Turns out its a built in spring loaded clip in the line connector end, oops lol Now I got to cut that end off and add a new connector or just clamp the line to the inlet part under the pump where it belongs..stay tuned.
Pls help! I'm in the UK and own 2 93's. My 93 1.9tid vector sport which is automatic has been off the Rd for 2 yrs. I've never worked on cars myself but managed to carry out the work req to get it thru its mot test. Car was running perfect for 3 hrs then started to cut out at junctions etc. When it's idling and I go to put it into drive, reverse or back into park it cuts out. The eml then appeared and the local garage said it was the code for the egr valve. I took it off and cleaned it along with the throttle body and map sensor. Drove OK for a day and the e m light went off. Started cutting out nearly every time I came to a stop and the engine management light came back on. Bought the icarsoft for saab and got code 0087 fuel rail/ system pressure - too low bank 1 and 0400 EGR A flow. I changed the fuel filter and the engine management light has gone but the problem is just as bad. I've not touched the fuel rail as I'm not confident enough yet but any thoughts on what the problem is please 🙏? Thanks
Hope you will answer... Does evap line that goes from the tank to the engine, if you blow into it, the air goes both ways or just in direction to engine ( like check valve or something)?
Great question! You honestly have me stumped on that one. I would say goes both ways and engine computer commands purge valve & solenoid to close under certain circumstances. So could probably be either.
My car was cranking but not starting so I sprayed some starter fluid to see if it would start it started. I let the car run for about 10 mins drove it around it was all good. Next day I went to work all fine this morning I get in my car try to start It wouldn’t start so i’m guessing it’s a fuel pump I don’t have a scanner so I can’t get codes but i’m assuming it’s the fuel pump
Hi there, maybe someone could help me my Saab 2.8T MY2008 very little restless when idling! no problems under load noticeable at the traffic light etc. have already exchanged: boost pressure control valve, boost pressure sensor, Air mass meter, Spark plugs, Ignition coils, Air filter, Injector cleaner Maybe Vacuum lines? I Hope someone can Help me Best Regards from Germany !🙏
Hello Patryk, any check engine lights? Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what your cars issue is. I would clean throttle body and check if the intake gaskets are leaking.
Why my Saab 9-3 2.0 aero it needs more time than usual to start when its cold and even when it is hot and stay off for about 30 minutes. And it have fault in right turn indicator but it work, it is some fault code for fuel pump or pressure regulator?
Hey man that look hose that goes into the tank that you said was hard to get off, the whitish hook that connects it to the pump is lost and the hose is just floating in the tank. What's that connector called?
Hi guys quick question. Apparently there is no serviceable fuel filter but the store sells a fuel filter for this car. Can I replace fuel filter or not is the question?
Gary, I commented and asked you a question about impact wrenches and Saabs last week. I have a fuel leak on the top of the tank on my '06 9-3 2.0 Cabrio with 97k miles. The car is not throwing any codes and is still running ok. I'm going to have to drop the tank obviously. I used an inspection scope and I'm sure the leak is in the fuel pump area. My car's tank has similar stains at the same locations as your car did. I have one day to get the tank down, finish the work and get it back on the road. I'm buying a new tank ring, vapor canister, fuel pump and fuel line clips. Is there anything else I should have on hand just in case? Thx
Hello Scot! I'm pretty sure I responded to your impact wrench question the other day. As for the fuel pump replacement it sounds like you're on the right track with what parts to have on hand. You may need exhaust clamps depending on how rusty yours are but thats something thats easier to take into the autopart store to match once removed. Outside of that, just try and use up as much gas as possible before you drop the tank. It's awkward enough with little fuel in it let alone multiple gallons.
My flex pipe rusted out earlier this spring. I tried to save $ and cut the flex section out and installed one I had on hand. The idea looked good on paper, but it's not working out in reality. I'm going to go ahead and buy the replacement part that bolts to the downpipe and runs back to the resonator. (Another great place to use the impact wrench). I was tempted to drop the tank, see where the fuel is leaking from and just epoxy the break. However, fuel pumps are cheap enough to keep me from doing that.
Nope. People have tried on the NG 9-3 and it never turns out well! You would spend more time cutting a massive hole to get to the lines than it takes just dropping the tank.
After watching this video I don’t think I am as terrified of dropping a gas tank on one of these cars as I was before this video. Gracias. But it hasn’t done anything to curb my rage at SAAB’s engineers for not put an access to the fuel pump under the backseat like on the 9-5s.
We made our own, took like 5 minutes :)=
The newer 9-5s changed the pump and tank so, you guessed it, you have to remove the tank now.
I need this done on my Saab too and it looks so intimidating to attempt myself. Ugh. 🙁
About a month ago I took my car to a shop who quoted approx $1,300 to do this exact thing. I don’t mind paying for someone’s knowledge and labor, especially for a Saab since many mechanics don’t wanna work on them. Where I run into problems is the shop wanting to charge me almost $600 for the replacement pump when I KNOW you can get one much, much cheaper!! That’s why I told them I’d be in touch if I decided to have it done. Maybe because I’m a female they think I know absolutely nothing... whatever. Anyway, THANK YOU so, so much for sharing this video! You just got another new subscriber! Happy Thanksgiving!
Is that replacement cheaper pump the same brand and quality they want to use? You can almost always find a cheaper aftermarket part, but you might have to pay to get the job done all over again sooner than later with a cheaper one. MAYBE. Tough for a shop want to back that up with a warranty they can stand behind, rather than choosing the more expensive one.
PS- there's a NHTSA Recall #11E009000 about certain aftermarket pumps failing, even while driving, causing a stalling and safety concern. I'd wonder if those cheapies fall under the part# range given in the Safety Recall? 🤔
I just got a 2.8 aero and i love it :)
Hate mine
@@LordprettyflackojodiMe too,it died....ofc.
@@lorangajapp8086 I’ve owned mine for 8 months. Only been able to drive it for 3. Prestine condition too. Smh
Not sure if you found this out by now, but those clips can be easily removed by pressing them in while pulling back on the line. Just an FYI a minute too late.
which clips and can u describe a lil
Yup, found out too late lol
This is a GREAT tip!
8:40 don’t do this. Crank the engine until it dies to pull down fuel rail pressure.
Hi Very greatfull for you video!
I have a saab 9-3 biopower 2.0 T year 2008 looks to be the same shape on our exhaust pipes guess it has with size of fuel tank, read it somewhere before
My car refused start today and let it sit for a couple of hours tried again then started it right away! So I guees my problem is fule pump
your video is so detailed so I can't fail!
unfortunately I have fill it full to the max before i know the main problem , so I will try to solve that problem before taking it down!
once again thanks for your video super satisfied
sorry for editing my post, my mobile lives its own life T9 and spells after, if my post was weird
Cheers Tony
I just did the job on mine. Whew. Thank you very much for your video. The one piece of advice that I would offer is that it is best to use a 1/4" drive for the rear bolts. This will allow just enough clearance to line up with the 13mm bolts on the straps. And most of the clips will release if you press them in the middle and pull. I only had to get medieval with one.
I just completed this drop and rebuild on my Saab 9-3 2.8 Nordic convertible. With the Vermont Tune I am averaging 9 Miles Per Gallon. Did anyone else have a drop in mileage with the pump change?
Thank you, need to do this to mine to get the fuel gauge to work
Was the car running ok before replacement? Just had the code?
I enjoyed this video, thanks mate.
Thanks for the kind words friend!
How was the car just before it did stop .....any things happen before?...
it is much easier to lift up the back seat and replace the pump from there
2004 Saab 9-3 arc fuel arrow indicator doesn’t move anymore any idea what I can do, I never know how much gas I have anymore I just guess
Probably the fuel level sender/float on the fuel pump. Very common issue. Unfortunately, that requires a tank drop to replace.
Hey right at 10:02 that black bar right in front of the strap for the fuel carriage - you don't show how to get that bar off could you make a video about that part?
That black bar you're referring to is the rear sway bar. You do not need to remove that to drop the fuel tank. Angle the front of the fuel tank downward until the back of the fuel tank clears the sway bar. Then you can lower the fuel tank down more evenly once you clear it.
@@WeakestofWeeks HMMMM I can't get to the screw that holds the strap on the fuel carriage?????? no cap I had a picture but my phone got destroyed I'll try and catch up with you. I dont think it's the sway bar it looks like the bar attaches all the way to the wheel or the braking mechanism???
@@randolphmasters3610 Interesting. Well when I drop the tank I only unscrew the 2 front most tank strap bolts. I dont bother with the other 2 rear ones since they're in a difficult spot.
@@WeakestofWeeks hmmmmmmmm oh wow near the front im not sure mine is like tht but i cant look at my car right now im pretty sure its differrent idk why its a 2004 idk ill try and get back 2 u
I always get hung up reinstalling the lock rings, not just Saabs but everything else too. There's gotta be a trick I'm missing. Great video though, ours died and we had to drop a half full tank
Is the same way for a Saab 9-3 2006 2.0T
Fuel pump replacement process shown in this video should be near identical for the 2.0l 4cyl engine. Some part numbers like the actual fuel pump assembly will be different.
Yes, I just did it today, using the info on this video! Get the clips and the ring removal tool.
Also that line from the inside the tank to the underside of pump, that clip was different from the one in the video.
Could be that its a 2005, but thinking its just another replaceable clip I broke it off.
Turns out its a built in spring loaded clip in the line connector end, oops lol
Now I got to cut that end off and add a new connector or just clamp the line to the inlet part under the pump where it belongs..stay tuned.
22:08 should rinse the top of the tank off before opening it. Will save you a lot of time fishing. Also never use Dorman brand fuel pumps.
Pls help! I'm in the UK and own 2 93's. My 93 1.9tid vector sport which is automatic has been off the Rd for 2 yrs. I've never worked on cars myself but managed to carry out the work req to get it thru its mot test. Car was running perfect for 3 hrs then started to cut out at junctions etc. When it's idling and I go to put it into drive, reverse or back into park it cuts out. The eml then appeared and the local garage said it was the code for the egr valve. I took it off and cleaned it along with the throttle body and map sensor. Drove OK for a day and the e m light went off. Started cutting out nearly every time I came to a stop and the engine management light came back on. Bought the icarsoft for saab and got code 0087 fuel rail/ system pressure - too low bank 1 and 0400 EGR A flow. I changed the fuel filter and the engine management light has gone but the problem is just as bad. I've not touched the fuel rail as I'm not confident enough yet but any thoughts on what the problem is please 🙏? Thanks
Hope you will answer...
Does evap line that goes from the tank to the engine, if you blow into it, the air goes both ways or just in direction to engine ( like check valve or something)?
Great question! You honestly have me stumped on that one. I would say goes both ways and engine computer commands purge valve & solenoid to close under certain circumstances. So could probably be either.
My car was cranking but not starting so I sprayed some starter fluid to see if it would start it started. I let the car run for about 10 mins drove it around it was all good. Next day I went to work all fine this morning I get in my car try to start It wouldn’t start so i’m guessing it’s a fuel pump I don’t have a scanner so I can’t get codes but i’m assuming it’s the fuel pump
Nice job replacing the connector. Craftsmanship is a lot more important than people think.
Great video, wish I had this when my fuel pump
died lol
I’m from Ohio as well! Haha looking to replace mine as my girl won’t even start anymore 😢
Hi there,
maybe someone could help me
my Saab 2.8T MY2008 very little restless when idling! no problems under load
noticeable at the traffic light etc.
have already exchanged:
boost pressure control valve,
boost pressure sensor,
Air mass meter,
Spark plugs,
Ignition coils,
Air filter,
Injector cleaner
Maybe Vacuum lines?
I Hope someone can Help me Best Regards from Germany !🙏
Hello Patryk, any check engine lights? Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what your cars issue is. I would clean throttle body and check if the intake gaskets are leaking.
Why my Saab 9-3 2.0 aero it needs more time than usual to start when its cold and even when it is hot and stay off for about 30 minutes. And it have fault in right turn indicator but it work, it is some fault code for fuel pump or pressure regulator?
The bulb may/may not be on it's way out. Look at the contact switch where the bulb sits.
easier solution espesially for diesel, cut hole under seat ;) replace pump and than screw with bolts cuted metal plate
What’s that hose called inside the tank? Mine has been ripped
What was the Issue with car to replace the pump?
more times than none seems to be, crank no start. No fuel pressure on the rail. CUrrently battling this myself
Hey man that look hose that goes into the tank that you said was hard to get off, the whitish hook that connects it to the pump is lost and the hose is just floating in the tank. What's that connector called?
i replaced my fuel pump and its not getting any power so no fuel is going to the engine any idea what i should be looking for?
Have you checked the fuel pump fuse and relay?
I read about a dude that had a rubber grommet sucked into the fuel line that goes into the pump. start there?
Hi guys quick question. Apparently there is no serviceable fuel filter but the store sells a fuel filter for this car. Can I replace fuel filter or not is the question?
Hey Gary I love your red saab I have a picth black 07 93 aero if you get some time check it out in my channel respect from Detroit
Thank you! I'll be sure to check out your 9-3. I used to own a black 07 60th anniversary 9-3 myself.
@@WeakestofWeeks that’s insane man 🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿
Wish I knew you before I left Ohio and I'd have paid you to help me do mine.
What ups
How much did they charge you ?and how long ago?
@@tharufiana year ago 800 with parts (new gas tank) and labor.
"remove before flight" A&P??
Waht symptoms if bad fuel pump?
Walbro rules! OEM. Is that tank metal? Not high density plastic?
The fuel tank for these are plastic
@@WeakestofWeeks thanks, for some reason it looked like metal, which I thought would be rather odd.
Gary,
I commented and asked you a question about impact wrenches and Saabs last week. I have a fuel leak on the top of the tank on my '06 9-3 2.0 Cabrio with 97k miles. The car is not throwing any codes and is still running ok. I'm going to have to drop the tank obviously. I used an inspection scope and I'm sure the leak is in the fuel pump area. My car's tank has similar stains at the same locations as your car did. I have one day to get the tank down, finish the work and get it back on the road. I'm buying a new tank ring, vapor canister, fuel pump and fuel line clips. Is there anything else I should have on hand just in case?
Thx
Hello Scot! I'm pretty sure I responded to your impact wrench question the other day. As for the fuel pump replacement it sounds like you're on the right track with what parts to have on hand. You may need exhaust clamps depending on how rusty yours are but thats something thats easier to take into the autopart store to match once removed. Outside of that, just try and use up as much gas as possible before you drop the tank. It's awkward enough with little fuel in it let alone multiple gallons.
My flex pipe rusted out earlier this spring. I tried to save $ and cut the flex section out and installed one I had on hand. The idea looked good on paper, but it's not working out in reality. I'm going to go ahead and buy the replacement part that bolts to the downpipe and runs back to the resonator. (Another great place to use the impact wrench). I was tempted to drop the tank, see where the fuel is leaking from and just epoxy the break. However, fuel pumps are cheap enough to keep me from doing that.
Leave the exhaust off! It sounds awesome 🤣
Hard work you know your could get it from the back seat you only need to drill out the plate
Not true on a 2003 and up 9-3. You'd have to cut one heck of a hole to get the fuel pump assembly out
@@WeakestofWeeks yes must better then remove the whole gastank
Awesome video. Thank you.
Can't you just cut a hole in the car to access the fuel pump directly?
Nope. People have tried on the NG 9-3 and it never turns out well! You would spend more time cutting a massive hole to get to the lines than it takes just dropping the tank.
@@WeakestofWeeks what about the 08' 9-3? I dnt knw if i hve everything to safely drp the tank. Any reccomndations?
👍🏻
What exhaust is on this car?
It has some stainless catback on it with muffler delete that was on it when I purchased the vehicle. Unfortunately I don't know the brand.
What about fuel filter?:) good to replace it to after pump
Yes very good point! Unfortunately, US spec cars like this one in the video didn't get an external fuel filter.
@@WeakestofWeeks I got a 2008 95 aero and i assume there is no external fuel filter as well?
@@jl3059 correct unfortunately. We don't have an external fuel filter on ours annoyingly.
Where is the filter??
Sadly, the US spec cars didn't get a serviceable external fuel filter.
@@WeakestofWeeks so is the filter really in ge gas tank?
Yessir ground and pound