Zongshen CSC RX3 Cyclone REVIEW - BRUTALLY HONEST
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- Опубликовано: 17 сен 2016
- The Zongshen CSC RX3 Cyclone is marketed to the ADV world as a light weight adventure tourer/ dual sport, but should it be? I rode the RX3 Cyclone 1000 miles through 3 states to find out. I was easier on the Zongshen RX3 than my other dual sport motorcycles, but still pushed it to its limit both on and off road. See the good, the bad, and the ugly in this brutally honest review!
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"the fuel gauge is about as accurate as a politician under oath" MADE.....MY......DAY
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Democrats and republicans are identical 😂
\-_-/ only separated by vocabularies rarely.
Loved every minute of this. You are truly a professional my friend... I sponsor a small select few people on patreon and with you it always feels like money well spent on a great product. Can't wait for what's next brother!
we meet again!
Tyler is why i signed up for youtube lol.
only found out about motovlogging from watching him.
PS the titanic bit was classic!!
I know this is a while ago, but I kinda understand why this is still one of your best review videos. It's honest and should be appreciated.
It doesn't matter what you ride, just that you ride. Always loved this quote from easy rider magazine back in the day.
Its reviews like this one that will make this company up their game. Brutally honest reviews help tremendously. Everyone has to start somewhere and with time they will grow and become better, hopefully.
Exactly the kind of review I'm hoping to see more of! I wanted it to be better, but that's on the manufacturer. Thank you for keeping it honest!
I really REALLY wanted this to be a great bike.
Agreed, instead it seems to just be an "okay" bike.
I'd already ridden it 300 miles. I spent 700 more miles trying to find things I liked.
lol Cory you sound like a petulant six year old crying about a toy. "He didn't like the motorcycle so I'm going to unsusbscribe!" lol with 50000 other people watching who can stomach an honest review i'm sure he won't lose any sleep either.
It's a little pathetic that you're so offended about a review of an inanimate object. Then come the personal attacks. I'm sorry you're having a bad day, I hope things go better for you.
I really like how you have everyone do a video on it and added their opinions into this video. It really adds a lot of credibility to your opinion. You should do that every time. Great videos and awesome work.
Calling yourself an 'average' off road rider is probably selling yourself a bit short.
I'm so glad you reviewed this. I've been wondering about it since I first heard about it and in my experience I can trust your reviews implicitly.
One of the best reviews I have ever seen... That is why we come to You Tube.... The honest, real life, truth from somebody who actually rides these type of bikes... Brilliant! I just subscribed because honesty is so incredibly refreshing!
Excellent review. I feel like I was on the csc for those thausand miles with all the good information, feedback and comparison given. Thanks for getting out there and doing the hard labor for us.
Thank you for this! When struggling with a beloved, but underpowered and carbureted xt225 through the fantastic elevation changes of Nevada and Utah, I considered "upgrading" to the Rx3. I'm so glad I stumbled on the lowered DR650 as an option during my search. I know people who love their Rx3, and I'm thrilled for them, but for going 80 on the highway and then hopping on orv trails, I'm so happy with my DR650! Oh, and I think you are way better than an average rider. :-)
Excellent review. I started riding a year ago and I appreciate your channel so much.Keep up the good work.
I recently found your channel and I have to tell you, no one else on RUclips can hold a candle to your videos. Absolutely fantastic!
This review was worth 20 minutes of my time (just as I had my backpack to step out the door)! I have no interest at all in the bike in my current situation but i really enjoy listening to you rationally review a product. The Morgan Freeman voice wasn't so much there this time around but I can always listen to the everVoice ;-) for hours on end. Thanks for sharing and keep up the good work, I look forward to whatever comes next! :)
Tyler, just so you know, you are doing a really impressive job with your videos, it's just gorgeous !
On the review, it's also a nice job. Informative and honest. Not surprising for someone following you for some time but people discovering you will appreciate! 👍
Thanks for the review! Good to see a comprehensive detailed review of this bike, as there are too many unknowns concerning it.
Hi, here in COlombia this bike is not injection, have carburator, more power but more troubles for tuning the carburator. ALso have a lot of problems for bad asembly. But for this money is the best choice. Have a cost of 4000 dollars here, but if you want buy other bike klr 650, dr 650 or other need 8000 dollars....For this reason is a medium choice. You say the true, is not a great bike, i say is a regular bike. But for this money in argentina, chile and Colombia is a on-off road good choice, no excelent only good. Nice day, sorry for my regular english. Regards from Colombia.
The real competition to this bike isn't brand new Japanese bikes, it's this bike brand new, against used Japanese bikes, and you can get those for less, and they'll still be more reliable. You could get a brand new RX3 for 4000 dollars, or you could get an 6-9 year old KLR, DR, or DL, and have a better experience and they'll still hold up better.
Kaerius, problem is that for 4000 usd you will not get anything like that, at least here in Argentina you need a lot more. If you want a KLR/DR/Dommie for usd 4000, it will only be a '90-93 with zillion miles on their backs, and God only knows how many hands went through them...
@@rodrigoruffa7460 I paid about usd 4k for an '09 Versys 650, in Sweden.
@Kaerius Good for you! I can positively confirm that things in Sweden are quite different than here in Argentina. By the way, I've been there in 2017, together with other 4 old Argentine schoolmates (30 years after graduation) we traveled from Lund to Nordkapp and back, 5600 km in 8 days, best adventure ever :2 BMW GS (1150 & 1200), one old BMW K100, one Honda Revere 650 & one Jialing 600...
Try the Royal Enfield Himalayan
EXCELLENT review. Thanks for saving me the time looking any further into the CSC bike. Keep up your good work. I enjoy the videos.
I came over from ShadeTree... Great review!
SUB. DELINQUENT yep ...same here
thank you Tyler !! I seriously love this review. I love my DRZ400S, and after watching your review, I honestly love my DRZ even more. In a moment of charity, I considered the fact that you reviewed that bike in the harshest, machine smashing environment our great country has to offer, (within normal limits of course), but the three states you rode in seem to be the perfect proving ground for every adventure bike.....Thank you for an honest and thorough review.
For a long time now I thought that this might be my next bike. But, I gotta say. This is the first review of this machine that wasn't sponsored by either CSC or Zongshen I've seen. I love the honesty and that honesty has got me thinking or more accurately, rethinking my decision to make this my next bike purchase. Not that I'm scrapping the idea of owning one completely. But, I think you might be right that time will tell with this bike and maybe in a few years, who knows. Anyway, thanks for taking the time to review this bike. Your input had been very helpful.
Thank you for this brutally honest review of this bike from your newest subscriber. Keep up the great reviews!
My son and I are planning on an extended tour of the Philippines - balut and San Migs, and all - and plan on getting a couple of these RX3s. Perfect bike for the roads and terrain over there, plus lockable storage. Adventure is what you make of it. Thanks for the review!
Great review as usual, thank you! I was so hoping that you were going to say it was at least good for a lightweight "dirt road" bike. But if it's prone to washing out from under you with no notice because of poor contact with the ground, as you said, knobs aren't going to completely fix that. Thanks for your hard work. I enjoy your reviews very much. Drag race with your wife was a nice touch... My buddy's constant comment on his Prius... "I really love it, but it is soooo slooooow!" All my best.
I took some advice from an adventure rider last year and bought an RX3 last summer. Put 1.2k miles on it before covering it up for winter. Changed the oil once and tightened maybe two bolts. I ride well-worn trails and dirt roads but mostly pavement. I don't treat it like a dirt bike. I like to use my RX3 to commute on nice days, too. Over the course of thirty years I've owned CRFs and an XT, along with a Magna and my current VStar. For the money, fit, finish, and performance, you can't beat the RX3 as an adventure bike. You just hop on it and go. Unlike Japanese enduros, the RX3 loves the interstate and winding mountain roads. It feels solid and isn't wobbly at high speeds like the Japanese makes. In city traffic, the RX3 always keeps up, no problem, even on steep inclines.
Now, I get it, you want to judge it as a dirt bike. But it's an adventure bike, not a dirt bike. As an adventure bike, the RX3 is unbeatable in the 250 class, and I'd recommend it to anyone. It's surprised me. It's shown me what a little 250 can REALLY do -- after riding for 30 years.
I just ordered a 2022 rx3 ,looking forward to getting next week
@@Zongshenfurshur I'm still loving my RX3. Over 3K miles down the road and no mechanical problems. I did buy a new battery for it, last spring.
It’s great that you had this experience. I own one of these and it has not performed anything at all as you describe yours does. I fall firmly in line with Tyler’s assessment. The bike looks nice in person, shows well on paper, but is simply not reliable at all in reality. It has proven time and again that it cannot be trusted and I would not recommend anyone purchase it based on my experience and that of many other people I know.
@@cliftonoram2923 Sorry you ended up with a dud. What year did you buy? Mine is 2021 and perfect for riding trails around Branson Mo. On pavement, it keeps up with any traffic, even going up the long hills. I don't have 5k miles on it and don't know how long it will last. So far I've replaced the battery and done regular maintenance. That's it. It sits under a deck, covered, during winter.
Was obsessed with this bike and thinking seriously about buying one .your review savaged that idea .eyes opening .thanks
love the fact you are brutal with the review and not sugar coating it........this is why I love your channel Tyler!
but for the money......I bought and built my xr650r. tractor like torque, long travel suspension and proven reliability. long live the dual sports!
Dude, you 're awesome! First I want to apologize for my rude comment about leaning on the gas tank for added traction on the front wheel. Second, I am going to start supporting you on patreon. Please keep doing what you're doing. Thank you for your awesome content!
Great review! I love that you included other people's opinions. They seemed familiar to me ; ) Thanks for a truly honest, thorough, and entertaining review. The big magazines and other reviewers can learn a thing or ten from you. I'll bet Toyota will sell more Prius's too! It would have been really funny to have a person using a walker in the first few frames of the drag race and then again in the last, as if they beat both of you to the finish line. Have a great day!
Just found this channel. Absolutely love it! Keep up the good work.
Came here from shadetree surgeon, and I'm glad I did. I have ranted many times in the past over useless mainstream reviews that are little more than a PR piece, not only about motorcycles but also about cars, TV's, phones, laptops, tools and basically anything. A review that is not honest is completely useless as consumer advice, so I love it when people like yourself are honest despite potential loss in revenue as a result.
A pretty thorough review, and thanks for your honesty of your opinion. Wondering how much suspension upgrades would cost from aftermarket. I've read the shock from Progressive that CSC offers as an option is more harsh than stock. As you say, longevity is yet to be proven, and one Zongshen owner in Idaho had to replace his engine just shy of 70K (70,000) miles. Not sure how that compares to other 250's.
One thing that caught me off guard, was when you mentioned the smiles it brought when ridden within it's limitations. That seems to be the common sentiment on RX3 forums, outside of one guy who seems to have difficulty shifting in to 6th, even after CSC sent him a complete replacement engine under warranty.
Again, thanks for the video adventure.
Man - this really makes me want to steal your entire video track and put my own impersonated voice over to it; the most positive RX3 everide review that no one expected :D
Great honest review and you really ran it through the ringer. On those rocky trails, I'd be wondering about taking my KLX 300 with full knobbies on it. While the manufacturer promotes it as dual sport/adventure bike, a large percentage of ADV riders rarely tackle trails like you do. For those riders, this might be adequate to introduce them to the DS/ADV community. Then again, it could just turn them off, too!
Wonderful intro! I didn't watch the whole thing, because at the 5:00 you point out the deal-breaker, slow to 60mph. Thanks from Texas! Good stuff! Great video work!
Came here because of a Shadetree Surgeon video. Great review man, I hope to see a lot of great future content.
Thanks for the review. I almost got this bike before getting the KLR. Now I feel better with my decision.
17:43 "There is no such thing as cool looking scooter! Even when you're on a Ruckus, people still know exactly what you look like when sitting on the toilet"
lol
xinic5 hahaha... I own an nmax155 ad a serow225. don't look cool but the way traffic is fucked up here in Manila a scoot is the way to go.😁
lol it's cool, I drive a Smart car. So I know that hate you get for your choice of vehicle. Despite what other people say, and that the Smart car isn't best at anything, I love my little clown car. :P
xinic5 ahaha! clown car! well a commuter is a commuter. 😁
I almost fell off my chair laughing when i read that ... 😂😂😂😂😂
Dude you're my new favorite moto channel. Love the videos!
Good, honest review. Nice to see, thanks for your hard work Everide.
Tyler, this is a well thought out and researched review. You have enough experience to know what you are talking about and be able to compare it to other similar motorcycles. I've just read that blog post aimed at you and that was far more brutal than this review, but maybe not as honest. I think you are right. Give it a few more years and they could be a game changer. But not yet. I'd rather go with the tried and trusted DRZ400 or similar which has a plethora of aftermarket goodies.
Good report. I bought a Lifan gy200 with no frills and it is strong a very capable. I tightened a few bolts and now is great, easy to ride off-road. I made my own accessories which work 3 years on.
Great review. Sounds the same as buying tools from Harbor Freight. Cheaper, and work fine for modest use, but not for something that I'll use all the time and expect a lot out of.
Well organised and detailed review of the product, nice editing and content. keep it up...
Came here from Shadetree.
As he mentioned, consumers deserve honest, unbiased, and un-sponsored (by the manufacturer) reviews on motorcycles. I think he missed the fact that we deserve them on ALL products. And you, my friend, do not hesitate to provide them.
Regardless of the backlash, reviews like this are crucial to consumers. You compared it to its market competitors, which is information we need to make an educated purchase. Some may find that the 'baloot' may be exactly what they're looking for, others may want something a bit more... substantial. And refined.
Keep making quality content like this, naysayers be darned. Those of us who appreciate them will thank you.
Keep it shiny side up!!
Great review. You did a great job of pointing out weaknesses and strength's with out being a jerk about it. the review had a very positive feel even when pointing out the weaknesses.
Great review. I own Japanese motorcycles and a much loved Chinese bike, and know the pros and cons of both, so it's nice to hear balanced comments for a change.
Excellent review. It ended up being pretty much what I expected the review would turn out to be. I think given enough time and continued interest in Zhongshan stateside there's a possible future for them like Kia and Hyundai once were, but hopefully they don't go the route of Daewoo or the Pinto.
Thanks. I was going to get this bike, but due to your honest assessment, I'll keep looking. I don't need a lot, but I can totally do without this mess in my life. Appreciate you
Wonderful review. I can't wait to see what you do next.
Thanks! I'm thinking I'll sell the CSC and get some different riding boots, review them, then give them away to you guys :)
Did we really need a review that told us a Chinese bike is a POS? Is anything from China NOT a POS?
Try Apple computers and iphones, work pretty well for me even though it is made in China. Ops, so is the chromebook I am writing this with.
Ohhh maaaan..... Seeing Jeffy on the back of that bike made my day... He looked like a big teddy bear giving Ol' EveRide a big hug!...lol Oh that was great!
Like a black light on a hotel bed your review not only exposed the shortcomings of the bike, it exposed the shortcomings of the vehicle's importer as well. I just read their insult riddled blog response to your review. Nice work.
do you have the link for the article?!
Great video, I really like your presentation style and positive comments even when something isn't very good. You've talked a lot about the KLR and DR-Z, but rarely mention the DR650. Are they less popular in the US than the other two?
An honest DR review would be excellent- I'd be really interested to see what you think of a stock machine versus your heavily modded KLR and DR-Z
Really liked this video, even though I already have all the bikes I need. It was fun and entertaining, plus all the beautiful shots. Also it was great seeing CDS, Mrs Stacy, and Hemit in there.
Bloody Great review mate! Loved the the whole video! I reckon you hit the nail on the head with all the review points... Well done :-)
Very good review, definitely made up my mind with that thing. That was a hilarious with Jeff. looked like it was struggling with both of you.
Great Vid. I wanted this bike originally because it looks so good. But since it didn't have a long track record I ended up getting a DR650. Looks like I made the right decision for the type of riding I do.
I loved your honest review man, this bike was just launched in Bali under VIAR distribution, under the name Vortex 250cc, but no injection for us, only carburetor version, i will take it for a ride in Black lava Kintamani volcano soon, to see how she react compared to the CRF 250 Rally and the Versys 250 (yes 250 we don't get the 300 in Indonesia as well 😂), cheers from Bali mate !
Good review bro, keep the good work, we want honesty no bs from people who fill their pockets, respect
Your review is just awesome and let me stop from falling for its Younger sibling RX 1 just bcz of its price... A really good review well done
I don't own an RX-3, but I do love this bike. However I really love this review because you offered me a perspective I did not have until I saw this.
I came to your blog very late ! However I admire your honesty. You have a new subscriber .
Very good review - with a result to be expected. Quality costs money and there is a reason why other bikes are more expensive - and thats not because the manufacturers want to make huge profit. From my point of view there are points that disqualify the bike entirely. One is the suspension. The other one that it doesnt even comfortably reach the legal speed limit. While I hate riding highways sometimes you just need to use them to quickly get from A to B and the last thing you want to be is a rolling traffic obstacle.
I loved Ms. Stacy laughing at the two of you, it was hilarious!! great review as well. I have worked on Chinese bikes and quads, im curious if parts will disappear and fade away for this bike like they do for many other Chinese made bikes.
Very good, honest review. I wish more were like that. Well done and thank you!
thank you so much for an honest review.... I think the world needed this. I wish CSC would market this bike properly
A great review, can't wait to see more!
Great review. I was hoping it would be "The Bike" but I'm glad you were honest bro! Thanks.
you answered my question about this bike. thanks for the honest review I'll not even ask about highway buzz through the bars
I have to say I am dissappointed alittle, but honestly not shocked. When Im in the market for a proper offroad capable bike I guess Id rather shell out the money for a dual sport.
I love your reviews, you're incredibly well spoken and you explain all the ups and downs of the bike. Keep up the great work man, and keep on riding - 8bit
as someone who currently lives as an expat in china basically your conclusions from your 3 different riders towards the end were 100% accurate. its what they use it for around around here - a scooter/commuter that doesn't look like one
The only thing that you didn't portray accurately is the carrying a passenger part. Here the riders (i guess) weigh 65kg with 50kg ish girlfriends on the back so its perfectly suited for commuting with a passenger
Was that Ms Stacey cackling during the 2 up with CDS? Great review Sir, you had me rolling at the "tupperware painted black" comment!! keep it on 2wheels and ride safe - 2 thumbs up
Thanks so much Mike! Stacey was laughing so hard because we were totally bottomed out and the throttle was nearly pinned! :D
It appeared that Jeff is quite fond of you in that clip.
It was like one big long man hug...but bouts of uncontrollable laughter and dancing.... A little broke back Zongshen if you will.
I’m just looking at this for a cheap commuter. I’m new to motorcycles in general, but thank you for your review 🙂
another fantastic review. thank you for helping everyone see thru all of the marketing smoke and mirrors. certainly a great bike for a certain very small group of riders...
Great Review , be nice if more reviews would be honest like this one on all bikes
this is a great view. Thank you for your honest with the view. The list of cons and pros about this bike. Awesome video.
Thanks for the skip the review option, Liked just for that, bonus in the thorough review!
Next review should be Honda CB500x with rally raid level 3 kit or steal CDS's Africa Twin! Haven't really done any crazy off road on my AT until I get crash bars but I'm absolutely loving it.
I 2nd those ideas!
But there is so much content surrounding those bikes already. The market is aching for a middleweight ADV bike and I think that the CCM GP450S should be the next review. It's the only adventure ready 450 right now and it's just coming to the US this year.
That should be exciting. Just a little over $12,000 plus fees, much cheaper than a GS or KTM. www.advpulse.com/adv-bikes/ccm-gp450-adventure-us-distribution-confirmed/
Great honest review! Very well explained and executed. If you get the chance to review a rally raid 310gs please do!
Great overview on a bike I wanted to be better - It may not be what I wanted to hear, but it was well considered and honest.
My biggest hope for CSC / Zongshen is to break open the market for genuine high-reliability, low-cost Chinese bikes. There's definitely a sweet spot somewhere at the $3k to $5k range for a bulletproof dual sport tractor or a nimble touring hound
Shade Tree Surgeon sent me over, great review.. Just sub'd and I'll be catching up on all your videos. Video production quality is over the top👍
That shade tree is a phat bastard.
Used KLR, DR, V-strom appear to be a much better deal. Very nice detailed review.
My wife is offended by Hermit da vlog's scooter comment. She said he's wrong, and her scooter is cool looking.
Great review, thank you for posting it.
Great and honest review, bro! Subscribed 👍
Damn you're rough on bikes! That was a good review. That kind of stuff is what needs to be done to test their claims. I would like to see you review the hawk 250.
Your honesty is very appreciated.
I don't think I'll be turning in my BMW for this anytime soon...
Great review Tyler!
I wasn't considering buying this bike, but still really enjoyed your review. thanks !!!!
I had ordered the TT250 and not the RX3 based on what I planned to do with the bike. . Wanted to see what CSC looked like before I signed the dotted line. So bought a motorcycle rack from CycleGear and drove to LA to pick it up. Really liked the shop and sales system. Was able to test drive the bike before I finalized the purchased. They were great. I totally agree with the review of the RX3 and would still consider it as another bike to add to my collection. CSC does have upgrades like front brake kits, which I would recommend. Did have issues with the TT250 and parts were sent quickly. I am hopefull that, as the review suggested, it is like Hyundai and will improve over the next few years. Now I say this as I worked for a dealership that had Hyundai as one of its 4 lines of cars and Hyundai has become an excellent car over the years. Visit CSC if you have the chance.
Excellent review! This bike is textbook Chinese production. Take something that works, copy it, and build it with the least amount of quality necessary to just make it work, once it's had some use, toss it because it ain't worth fixing
The Titanic bow replay was BEAUTIFUL ! (APPLAUSE)
I love when people have a sense of humor even on the worse of things and/or situations.
@eveRide Hey boss, I know there's been a ton of drama about this video, but I wanted to drop by and say thanks! Your video really helped me make an informed decision. I watched it beginning to end about five times. In the end I actually decided the RX3 WAS the right bike for me. I purchased on earlier this week and I'll drop back in periodically and let you know how it goes.
You answered all the questions I originally had about the bike, and that was reassuring. Not only did it help me make an informed choice, I was also able to manage my expectations about what I was buying, and what it was capable of. Even seeing all of its weaknesses, I still feel strongly that that 'niche' market you mentioned, apparently includes me!
Again, thanks for the hard work you put into this video, and as far as the drama is concerned, we should not let our biases divide us as a community. That goes for the 'for' and the 'against' crowds. In the end we're just one crowd, the ADV crowd, and no matter what we ride, if it makes us happy that's all that matters!
-Mike
Same here. I'm not an experienced enough rider to take serious trails. So a small bore, semi capable, cheap bike (buying used) is pretty much perfect for me.
"and I'll drop back in periodically and let you know how it goes..."
It's been 3 years, so how's the bike going?
@Vladimir I think that was a poster sent over by joe, I see he removed his blog about evaride's review.
How's the bike?
Great review. Awesome video keep up the great work.
Very thorough review, and about the only one out there also. A point about the manufacturer, Zongshen has apparently been been around a long time, and the bikes that CSC sell from them are basically Americanized versions of bikes they already sell successfully in other markets, so getting replacement parts shouldn't be a problem long-term.
I actually got one of CSC's TT250's (a dirt-bike style dual sport) as my first bike, because it's dirt cheap so if anything happens to it I won't feel to terribly bad about it. But I can be honest about it, it's kind of gutless and old-tech these days, but I'm not concerned about that right now, I just need to learn what I'm doing, and when I get a proper street bike (probably one of Honda's 500's), it can become a dirt-only bike and it'll be fine.
I don't think the review was as negative as you made it out to be. It was honest and factual. I think you hit the highs and lows accurately. Nice job, keep it up.
Good review, thanks.. Heather and I were looking at possibly getting some of these for us to both go out on but with the lack of "good footing to the ground" I'd rather her not be on one.. and possibly get something that is a little sure footed..
Excellent review my friend, Definitely sounds like it is not a good bike for a new rider gif it washes out that easy.
As with all your videos my friend, Very well done, Love it. You always do an amazing videos and this one is no less.
That is pretty cool you have CDS, Stacy, and Hermit ride it as well.
Cant Argue with Hermits comparisons hehehe he is a funny dude.
I truly appreciate the honestly of the bike.
It would be cool to see them build the bike better down the road and see if it helps lower the prices of the big guys.
Thanks again and have a blessed week.
Just like the Chinese cars that came out a few years ago not passing crash safety standards and the like.. now quite a number of them are 5 star, and are good products.
So a few years of RND/feedback and they should have a good product on there hands.
nice review...this kind of review is what im looking for.
That was one of the greatest drag races I have ever seen!