These two sound very close to each other, even though Genelec is substantially smaller and MUCH more expensive which makes 8020D hard to recommend as a value for money proposition. There is one area where 8020D bests Rokit 5 G4 considerably, but it is one that is hard to convey in comparison like this. The area is soundstageing, where Genelec does some spooky dissapearing and 3D holographic projection acts that KRK can not match. Which one would you choose? Would you consider spending 1000 dollars for 8020D? Let me know in the comments below! Cheers!
Thanks for your comparison videos - Those direct comparisons really are helpful, because a pure listening test of one speaker via RUclips doesn't work. What I wanted to add is, that the price you have to pay for the genelec is the European manufacturing and build quality. It's a massive aluminium housing vs mdf on the Rokit. For me the real selling point of the Genelec is their GLM signal processing on the SAM Series 83xx, which isn't that much more expensive than their 80xx series, especially if you want to include some sort of 3rd party room correction. (dirac, audissey etc.) This really put's them ahead, because it can smooth out some rough edges in less ideal rooms aka non-studio environments and let's you easily integrate their subwoofers, to get a full range sound and even more volume at midfield distances. So you can get a very competent sound system for 2000-2500 Euros, that can easily compete with high-end Hi-fi-Systems, without all the careful selection of components, that is usually required to get a 2.1 system running.
@@VenVile Nothing wrong with that. Regarding pure price to sound ratio, the Rokit is definitely ahead. (For me the metal music part shows that the Genelec are still ahead in sound overall and seem to be more open and clear, but it's impossible to judge this reliable via a RUclips recording) I would be interested in the level of hiss the KRK Rokit is emitting in comparison to the genelec. A lot of entry- to mid-level active speaker seem to have some issues there.(even a few expensive one's seem to have problems with an elevated noise floor)
I'm into Genelec's, but these KRK's sound very good. They have more going on in the 400-1K range, but it's subtle. Slightly boxy sounding, but not nearly as offensive as other monitors IMO. They also have more sub lows, but that's to be expected (5" vs 3.5") If you don't like the Genelec 1.5K-3.5K forwardness, then these might be the monitors for you. Job well done KRK. Update: Whoops, I didn't know the Rockit 5's use DSP. That will add latency with no ability to bypass the ADC because it offers no SPDIF/AES-EBU, like the Genelec DPS monitors. Something to consider.
I have these KRKs and find them a great monitor for the price but was considering moving up to the Genelecs. Based on this I think I'd like to hear a more considerable difference in sound, the Genelecs seem slightly more transparent in the top end with better soundstaging but I can't warrant so much more in price for them. Possibly moving up the Genelec range a bit would be the way to go?
Well, according to marketed specs, the KRK Rokit5 G4's go from 43 HZ to 40 KHZ, while the Genelecs is 56 HZ to 25 KHZ. So it looks like that KRK may have a wider frequency response. In actual listening, though, I believe the Genelecs has a more pronounced top end than the KRK's. I have a pair of the Rokit5 speakers, and I love working with them and playing music through them. I may get a couple of stands if I settle down and not having to move next year so I can better improve my setup.
The texture of bass and naturalness of mid to mid low tones are the real area that genelec shines when it compares to krk. And actually I have compared those two models and I chose the 8020d. However, krk gives quite decent sounds for the price and also krk actually wins in mid - high frequencies because it gives more "monitoring, direct, and forward" sound. But still 8020d is the winner even though it's way more expensive.
the new rokits are good, but in this comparison they have a more compressed sound in the lower frequencies. the Genelecs are more dynamic and you can hear the recording situation.
They are similarly voiced but the Genelecs are in a completely different level. Maybe you could compare the Genelecs to the KRK V Series if you had the chance? That would be very interesting.
Wow, these Rokit 5's sound like fun man, I apreciate the Genelac's for their tight presentation, but I gotta say they seem to me to be missing alot of LFE information that the Rokit's seemed to have more of with that sweet sheen on everything, I like them better and better. For the money and pleasure, the Rokit's. For recording and accuracy, politely done very well, the Genelac's. Awesome choice DS.
Thanks for posting this. I have a pair of 1029 Genelecs that I really like, (apart from not much bass response). They're very clear but I'm thinking of setting up an atmos system. Eleven Genelecs would be an expensive option but I don't think the Rokit 5's would be too much of a compromise. I think the KRK's sound a little more agressive but it's very close, at least to my ears..
What would you choose between the genelec 8030c and the Rokit 5 G4? I think this is a more fair comparison as both have 5 inch drivers, unlike the 8020 which has a 4 inch driver. I listened to both the 8030c and the Rokit 5 G4 in a store, and I think the 8030c sounds slightly better, but not nearly enough to justify the cost. The 8030c does get substantially louder though, which makes sense as each 8030c speaker has twice the power of the krk.
This was the comparison that I did when I decided to get my 8020 Genelecs years ago. You Tube obviously doesn't do the sound of each reality justice. When I did the test I could hear why one 8020 cost the price of two KRK's. That was almost 15 years ago though.
@@respectableandserious Автор этого канала утверждает из всех 5 дюймовых мониторах менее всего шипит KPK 5 G4,но нужно реально сравнение чтобы потребитель знал что покупает.А почему производители не пишут в характеристиках что они шипят и как сильно. Как по мне шипение это брак и такие мониторы тем более ближнего поля должны быть запрещены для продажи.Мониторы например Focal не шипят.ruclips.net/video/oWD-XAxqwg4/видео.html
@@FAESSTRO по собственному опыту знаю что Mackie mr6 очень тихие, может и совсем не шипят. Новую линейку (MR524) недавно в магазине специально слушал на шипение - тоже всё чисто. Хочу вот взять Маки, только минус что фазоинвертор сзади.
@@respectableandserious Тоже хочу взять Mackia MR524 или MR624,но автор канала утверждает что они слабо но шипят.По его мнению КРК G4 менее из всех шипят.
@@FAESSTRO Ну по моему зацену шипения в магазе они очень даже сносны, уж по сравнению с Кали так вообще бесшумные. Кстати сравнил в том магазе Маки с Нойманами так последние гораздо заметнее выдавали шип.
Distorted guitars sound better on KRK to me. Genlelecs are for sure more neutral, KRKs have more lows and highs, differently equed midrange. But I don't feel that Genelec's 3d sound via YT on my headphones everybody talk about. More, listening to "Inspiring Middle East" I had an impression that the KRKs had more spacy sound. Probably in person it would change. Anybody had a chance to compare them side by side?
Unfortunately also here: both speakers have no stereo stage in width and depth. On the original track, the sun rises instead. Is this possibly due to poor microphone positioning?
They sound fairly similar, but both are very anemic if that makes sense. I mean, they have a 4" driver so what do you expect? But I'm listening on my newly purchased Pioneer RM-05 and it blows these out of the water when it comes to giving body to songs.
hi.. Digital Sterephony.. love all ur review with good tracks.. is it any posibble u get the Hivi Swans M200D compare to Edifier S3000Pro.. thx.. will appreciate ur comment :)
The 8020 definitely sound better, no doubt. The RP5G4 tend to be boomy and on the classic track it becomes obvious how much more detailed the Genelecs are.
If you compared the Genelec to the s3000pro on "dynamic" mode, edifier would blow it out of the water like it does with krk or any other speaker. It's tweeter is insanely next level and the bass it produces is ridiculously deep.
In my opinion krk's sou d better listening to this test but it will never be the same if you are listening in person its way diferent than listening to it through a microphone
Does anyone know what creates the soundstage? Higher end speakers tend to do this very well, I’ve sat in front of focal trio 6be in a treated studio and the sound appears as an orb in front of you, almost tactile. All these are stereo speakers though so why don’t some achieve this effect?
I actually like krk better. In the metal track it sounds "meatier" 🍖 and fuller. Genelec sounds tinny although the tweeters sound pretty much exactly the same there's some substance missing from the Genelec. Genelec has a waveguide so that will help the sound stage whereas krks waveguide is pretty much nonexistent. If you stacked like 3 krks you would get a very wide tweeter sound stage whereas the Genelec you'd have to be directly in front -- and still be more expensive.
The krks are better by a long shot the gens are just too hyped in the high range and really hurt your ears after a while and i have both. The main thing your going to find is that the gens are going to be loads better if your have a good acoustically treated space, if you don't they are way too focused and really hurt your ears as they are very hyped in the top end like i say. The fact you can hear 25hz on the gens is just stupid. The speaker is like 3 or 4 inch and you won't hear that at all. You need at least 5inch and that's why I'd say get the krks. Downside to krk is hyped in low and slightly less better quality.
I heard the complete opposite in the demo. The Genelecs roll off the hisses, S's, and T's in vocals, so they aren't sibilant. The treble on the Rokits seems to "beam" sometimes in some of the other videos. If you check the frequency graphs at the end, they're both actually pretty closely matched except that the KRK's have a more forward midrange, and a treble peak around 13khz or so.
KRK has more high-end whereas Genelecs have less, it's rather arguable what's better. If you hear less high fqs during the writing and mastering, it might make you wanna boost them up, and as result, you might have overpowered high end on the consumer based audio system. And vice versa, if you have more high-end during at writing stage, you might wanna cut it off that will result less airy and clear high end. Which one to choose? 🤷🙆
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i hate you, the genelec sounds soOo good! maybe i sell 2 or 4 monitors and buy 5" genelec
These two sound very close to each other, even though Genelec is substantially smaller and MUCH more expensive which makes 8020D hard to recommend as a value for money proposition. There is one area where 8020D bests Rokit 5 G4 considerably, but it is one that is hard to convey in comparison like this. The area is soundstageing, where Genelec does some spooky dissapearing and 3D holographic projection acts that KRK can not match.
Which one would you choose? Would you consider spending 1000 dollars for 8020D? Let me know in the comments below! Cheers!
Very Spooky Soundstageing.
Thanks for your comparison videos - Those direct comparisons really are helpful, because a pure listening test of one speaker via RUclips doesn't work.
What I wanted to add is, that the price you have to pay for the genelec is the European manufacturing and build quality.
It's a massive aluminium housing vs mdf on the Rokit.
For me the real selling point of the Genelec is their GLM signal processing on the SAM Series 83xx, which isn't that much more expensive than their 80xx series, especially if you want to include some sort of 3rd party room correction. (dirac, audissey etc.)
This really put's them ahead, because it can smooth out some rough edges in less ideal rooms aka non-studio environments and let's you easily integrate their subwoofers, to get a full range sound and even more volume at midfield distances.
So you can get a very competent sound system for 2000-2500 Euros, that can easily compete with high-end Hi-fi-Systems, without all the careful selection of components, that is usually required to get a 2.1 system running.
I'd take the KRKs still.
@@VenVile Nothing wrong with that. Regarding pure price to sound ratio, the Rokit is definitely ahead.
(For me the metal music part shows that the Genelec are still ahead in sound overall and seem to be more open and clear, but it's impossible to judge this reliable via a RUclips recording)
I would be interested in the level of hiss the KRK Rokit is emitting in comparison to the genelec.
A lot of entry- to mid-level active speaker seem to have some issues there.(even a few expensive one's seem to have problems with an elevated noise floor)
@Anti Anti both Genelec and KRK are on the quiet side of hiss, there is some hiss audible from up close but it is rather faint.
I'm into Genelec's, but these KRK's sound very good. They have more going on in the 400-1K range, but it's subtle. Slightly boxy sounding, but not nearly as offensive as other monitors IMO. They also have more sub lows, but that's to be expected (5" vs 3.5") If you don't like the Genelec 1.5K-3.5K forwardness, then these might be the monitors for you. Job well done KRK.
Update: Whoops, I didn't know the Rockit 5's use DSP. That will add latency with no ability to bypass the ADC because it offers no SPDIF/AES-EBU, like the Genelec DPS monitors. Something to consider.
I have these KRKs and find them a great monitor for the price but was considering moving up to the Genelecs. Based on this I think I'd like to hear a more considerable difference in sound, the Genelecs seem slightly more transparent in the top end with better soundstaging but I can't warrant so much more in price for them. Possibly moving up the Genelec range a bit would be the way to go?
Very similar. Pretty amazing.
I found the same, plus KrK5 offer alittle more bass, I would say 20%.
metal head track is always the one to show the most noticeable differences between speakers
Agreed!
Yeahhhh
Rokit g4 always wins
Well, according to marketed specs, the KRK Rokit5 G4's go from 43 HZ to 40 KHZ, while the Genelecs is 56 HZ to 25 KHZ. So it looks like that KRK may have a wider frequency response. In actual listening, though, I believe the Genelecs has a more pronounced top end than the KRK's. I have a pair of the Rokit5 speakers, and I love working with them and playing music through them. I may get a couple of stands if I settle down and not having to move next year so I can better improve my setup.
I used to own Genelecs, loved them. Never gave a thought about KRK. This today changed my mind. Today I pick KRK.
The genelec seems to have a more crisp pronounced top
In Canada the KRK RP5G4 are very affordable at $220-$240 CAD/Each. Very Popular with the under 30 crowd.
ADAM A5X & A7X PLEASE !
Almost dead on Great job KRK!
wow, KRK has reached genelec from behind
The texture of bass and naturalness of mid to mid low tones are the real area that genelec shines when it compares to krk. And actually I have compared those two models and I chose the 8020d. However, krk gives quite decent sounds for the price and also krk actually wins in mid - high frequencies because it gives more "monitoring, direct, and forward" sound. But still 8020d is the winner even though it's way more expensive.
Well said sir.
the new rokits are good, but in this comparison they have a more compressed sound in the lower frequencies. the Genelecs are more dynamic and you can hear the recording situation.
They are similarly voiced but the Genelecs are in a completely different level. Maybe you could compare the Genelecs to the KRK V Series if you had the chance? That would be very interesting.
The difference between the v series and rockit g4 now is just the headroom. This new generation is awesome
@@Redutoboombap I agree I love my g4 8s. I pair them with the 10s and it’s insane
Wow, these Rokit 5's sound like fun man, I apreciate the Genelac's for their tight presentation, but I gotta say they seem to me to be missing alot of LFE information
that the Rokit's seemed to have more of with that sweet sheen on everything, I like them better and better.
For the money and pleasure, the Rokit's.
For recording and accuracy, politely done very well, the Genelac's.
Awesome choice DS.
Please do tests with Neumann KH 80's
Thanks for posting this. I have a pair of 1029 Genelecs that I really like, (apart from not much bass response). They're very clear but I'm thinking of setting up an atmos system. Eleven Genelecs would be an expensive option but I don't think the Rokit 5's would be too much of a compromise. I think the KRK's sound a little more agressive but it's very close, at least to my ears..
What would you choose between the genelec 8030c and the Rokit 5 G4? I think this is a more fair comparison as both have 5 inch drivers, unlike the 8020 which has a 4 inch driver. I listened to both the 8030c and the Rokit 5 G4 in a store, and I think the 8030c sounds slightly better, but not nearly enough to justify the cost. The 8030c does get substantially louder though, which makes sense as each 8030c speaker has twice the power of the krk.
This was the comparison that I did when I decided to get my 8020 Genelecs years ago. You Tube obviously doesn't do the sound of each reality justice. When I did the test I could hear why one 8020 cost the price of two KRK's. That was almost 15 years ago though.
These are rokit generation 4 not what you heard 15yrs ago
@@pedrorm923 True but I'm sure if you put these up against the new Genelec Ones it would be the same result as 15 years ago.
Please the KRK Serie V
In special the V4 & V6 (6.5)
Genelecs sound way more centered and focused. Clean. But not as "wide" and "expansive".
interesting. very interesting. I'm not hearing the money you would have to spend on the G's and I should, at least with the clarity.
metal song is where krk starts to sound really harsh on the hi-hat while Genelec is more balanced
A little more detail isolation on the G. Slightly wider stage too. Listening on ath-m70x.
I bet the hiss from the amps on the KRK's are not present on the Genelecs
Maybe you could do more budget speakers like Sven MC-20? Great work BTW!
Не плохо было бы ещё добавить тест на шипение между мониторами.
В точку, я так с Кали ЛП-6 накололся лютейше
@@respectableandserious Автор этого канала утверждает из всех 5 дюймовых мониторах менее всего шипит KPK 5 G4,но нужно реально сравнение чтобы потребитель знал что покупает.А почему производители не пишут в характеристиках что они шипят и как сильно. Как по мне шипение это брак и такие мониторы тем более ближнего поля должны быть запрещены для продажи.Мониторы например Focal не шипят.ruclips.net/video/oWD-XAxqwg4/видео.html
@@FAESSTRO по собственному опыту знаю что Mackie mr6 очень тихие, может и совсем не шипят. Новую линейку (MR524) недавно в магазине специально слушал на шипение - тоже всё чисто. Хочу вот взять Маки, только минус что фазоинвертор сзади.
@@respectableandserious Тоже хочу взять Mackia MR524 или MR624,но автор канала утверждает что они слабо но шипят.По его мнению КРК G4 менее из всех шипят.
@@FAESSTRO Ну по моему зацену шипения в магазе они очень даже сносны, уж по сравнению с Кали так вообще бесшумные. Кстати сравнил в том магазе Маки с Нойманами так последние гораздо заметнее выдавали шип.
Did you hear G5 already?
I am hesitant to buy between KRK RP5G4 and Presonus Eris E5 XT PLEASE!
What Project X said. It will be uploaded this weekend
I will wait.
KRK as a film & Tv composer
Distorted guitars sound better on KRK to me. Genlelecs are for sure more neutral, KRKs have more lows and highs, differently equed midrange. But I don't feel that Genelec's 3d sound via YT on my headphones everybody talk about. More, listening to "Inspiring Middle East" I had an impression that the KRKs had more spacy sound. Probably in person it would change. Anybody had a chance to compare them side by side?
It is really remarkable that the Genelecs don't wipe the floor with the KRKs.. that is what I would have expected!
genelecs sound projection is superb . wow...
The genelecs have very harsh, fatiguing highs, which does not come through this video. I just returned mine.
Try the Neumann KH120.
@harry M All the 8000 series?
Unfortunately also here:
both speakers have no stereo stage in width and depth. On the original track, the sun rises instead.
Is this possibly due to poor microphone positioning?
Any chance to add Elac Navis ARB-51 and Swans M300 to the roster at some point?
Wow.. Pretty close actually..
Thanks for the vid..
They sound fairly similar, but both are very anemic if that makes sense. I mean, they have a 4" driver so what do you expect? But I'm listening on my newly purchased Pioneer RM-05 and it blows these out of the water when it comes to giving body to songs.
USE MORTALS IN EVERY VIDEO PLEASE!
agreed, along with metal head!
I think dead can dance kiko be better
Please, do Genelec 8020D vs Mackie MR524, would be the super precise flat sounding monitor comparison.
hi.. Digital Sterephony.. love all ur review with good tracks.. is it any posibble u get the Hivi Swans M200D compare to Edifier S3000Pro.. thx.. will appreciate ur comment :)
Genelec 8020 and JBL LSR305 Please
There will be a comparison with 305P MKII soon
떡먹은 용만이 이후 이렇게 힘든건 처음이네요 많이 파세요..
tannoy gold 7 & krk rokit g4 ???? pleace
The 8020 definitely sound better, no doubt. The RP5G4 tend to be boomy and on the classic track it becomes obvious how much more detailed the Genelecs are.
in some styles of music the difference is greater
That was a tough one!
Интересный современный музыкальный ряд подбираете и не зацикливаетесь на одном. Спасибо!
Здраствуйте я не слишу разница помогите пожалуйста какую выбрать ?
genelec is open for clear loud sound thats the diffrent. In rooms with 200 Meters definitely krk. for higher room genelec.
Hı bro. I will buy klispch r15m. What do you think about this speaker? My amp yamaha rs202bl.
I only tested the powered version of this speaker, can not comment on the passive one
If you compared the Genelec to the s3000pro on "dynamic" mode, edifier would blow it out of the water like it does with krk or any other speaker. It's tweeter is insanely next level and the bass it produces is ridiculously deep.
Edi..what ? It’s never comparable to real studio stuff
In my opinion krk's sou d better listening to this test but it will never be the same if you are listening in person its way diferent than listening to it through a microphone
Does anyone know what creates the soundstage? Higher end speakers tend to do this very well, I’ve sat in front of focal trio 6be in a treated studio and the sound appears as an orb in front of you, almost tactile. All these are stereo speakers though so why don’t some achieve this effect?
Krk is way better at bass response
t5v랑 8020랑 비교를 해봐도 krk rokit 5 g4는 좀 벙벙거리는 게 있네요.. 하.... 진짜...뭐로 해야 돼 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ
I actually like krk better. In the metal track it sounds "meatier" 🍖 and fuller. Genelec sounds tinny although the tweeters sound pretty much exactly the same there's some substance missing from the Genelec. Genelec has a waveguide so that will help the sound stage whereas krks waveguide is pretty much nonexistent. If you stacked like 3 krks you would get a very wide tweeter sound stage whereas the Genelec you'd have to be directly in front -- and still be more expensive.
Yeah, very close but the KRK's do beat the Genelec 8's.
Especially when you hear "Deep" or "Metal Head"
I think Genelec have everyone fooled. (Price)
@@MikMech Genelecs are 10x better than any other monitor when you hear them in person
The krks are better by a long shot the gens are just too hyped in the high range and really hurt your ears after a while and i have both. The main thing your going to find is that the gens are going to be loads better if your have a good acoustically treated space, if you don't they are way too focused and really hurt your ears as they are very hyped in the top end like i say. The fact you can hear 25hz on the gens is just stupid. The speaker is like 3 or 4 inch and you won't hear that at all. You need at least 5inch and that's why I'd say get the krks. Downside to krk is hyped in low and slightly less better quality.
I heard the complete opposite in the demo. The Genelecs roll off the hisses, S's, and T's in vocals, so they aren't sibilant. The treble on the Rokits seems to "beam" sometimes in some of the other videos. If you check the frequency graphs at the end, they're both actually pretty closely matched except that the KRK's have a more forward midrange, and a treble peak around 13khz or so.
muy medioso característico del krk
Genelecs sound a lot more controlled.
Very interesting, the Genelecs are about twice as much and there is very little difference
not really, there's a BIG difference in sound and depth.
KRK Rokit 5 G4
Genelec beats the KRK with a distance.
Altho I have the 8010's, pair of bonzai's
los genelec mas secano ala pista original
Genelec
That no sound the same for me. but close ya. I would hear genelec and krk versus focal. :)
Wavemaster Cube Mini Neo vs Edifier Studio R1280T ?
krk for the $
Not much diff between genelec and rokit🙏
almost same
KRK has more high-end whereas Genelecs have less, it's rather arguable what's better. If you hear less high fqs during the writing and mastering, it might make you wanna boost them up, and as result, you might have overpowered high end on the consumer based audio system. And vice versa, if you have more high-end during at writing stage, you might wanna cut it off that will result less airy and clear high end. Which one to choose? 🤷🙆
Thru my HiRez earbuds, the rokits are better.
genelec win
almost the same
Genelec win.
KRK look better.
Are you looking at your speakers or listening to them?
krk 는. v4s4 이모델 밑으로는 쓰레기라 보시면 됩니다 벙벙거리고 해상도 엄청 떨어져서 비추 제네렉은. 긴설명이 필요없이 그냥 명품입니다. 끝
Genelec