Cooke's channel is really a place for us to really have a chance of communication with the masters instead of subscribing for only ads. good job cooke!!! love it!
These are so valuable I can’t begin to tell you. I’m a first time Director and Producer. What I consistently take away from these videos that’s most important to me. Is how to best help my team do the best job in telling the story I’m (we) are trying to tell. I’m better able to communicate with every department in their own nomenclature. They also help me stay within my budget, while still giving the proper time to get my scene right for the story. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH
Very interesting. Happened to be there on the day for the shots @ 2:55. the call sheet for that day read; "IF SUNNY, SHOOTING..." followed by the scenes that we did end up shooting. what a fantastic practical example!
Thank you so much for this roundtable series! It's amazing! Not that other formats are not interesting, but this is such a pleasure to watch and hear conversation between professionals of that level!
Agreed, I actually learnt a lot more about shooting day exteriors than I thought I would. I'm terrible at day exteriors on location (vs in soundstage), but somehow get lucky with overcast days!
We've split up the interviews based on the questions we received. Because we know you guys like longer edits, we're keeping this slightly longer than usual :)
I hate to be negative given that this is a gift of time and effort, and I appreciate that. But there's not much useful information here, more or less just anecdotal storytelling. A curious fellow could learn a lot more from 10 minutes reading Blain Brown. I was about to turn it off and the end bit came about post color. It is at least nice to hear this posited as a tool that informs decision making on set. Less experienced Producers are often surprised that some of my first questions are about who is doing the post. Sometimes they haven't even lined them up yet and then ask "how much time/money will this take?" This is revealing. You have wonderful minds here. Challenge them a bit more and I think you will be rewarded with the result. Backlight with the Sun? OK how about the difficulties of how film vs digital handles this, bit depth, dynamic range, sensitometry, log curves. When you watch a cooking show do you want to hear about how nice the food tastes or how to cook it? Again I understand that this is a gift, and I value that you have made this effort. You have some wonderful resources here. don't squander them, don't go lowest common denominator . And your lenses, the tops. They are always my first request. ;-)
I guess they don't really care. I mean that they don't really care about unpacking any useful information, because people who have been in the industry long enough, just figure it out on the spot. Its a little bit like, recording musicians in the record industry; You can't really teach someone to do something that so specific because there could be 101 different ways to overcome any problematic scenario. Likewise, these guys are more so just talking about problem that they've faced and how they overcame those specific challenges. But you're right, it could have been a bit more useful, but then again, unfortunately it wasn't really their aim.
I’m hearing two schools of thought here & one is indeed practical (From Gavin) others sound slightly dangerous .. in that you’ll get a producer hearing that - lets use a colourist to polish the work & FIX things in POST…. & before you know it there’s a producer CUTTING $$$ from a budget & shoot time on set & sacrificing a good story saying - lets fix all that in POST. ( I hear it so many times from young DOP’s - Lets fix all that in POST! & a post house rubbing their hands together saying PAY DAY has arrived. This will be charged out at 100’s of hours in POST work. When if the proper planning of scheduling & practical solution, problem solving can fix some of these issues on set - in camera on time. It’s all about being CREATIVELY smart & thinking outside the box. Far too many young DOP’s just want big toys on set & be building their BRAND & saying POST will fix my mistakes & make me look good. WRONG! Learn the fundamentals & grow strong in your ability to use light you’ve got & make a good frame with what you have available to you.
I loved this roundtable talk, it was super interesting and I made a lot of notes throughout. But, as a female cinematographer, I was SO extremely disappointed to not only see the lack of representation and diversity on this panel but seeing that Kate Reid was not able to get in a single comment throughout the 14-minute clip was really upsetting. Everyone else talked multiple times and it is disappointing to see that nobody let her have a word in. It seems like a reflection of how the industry still is today. I understand that all of these cinematographers are extremely talented, but there is a great amount of POC and female cinematographers that could have been featured as well. It is 2020.
The channel commented above that in one of their other videos, she had some good comments - I watched that video and it was literally 30 seconds of Kate speaking. And that was the only time she spoke in the entire video. She must have said more during filming - someone just made the decision not to include it!
I totally agree with you. By minute 7 of the clip, I started anticipating that she may say something and the camera kept on panning to her but nothing was said. Smart ones usually sit back and observe and she might have done that but I would have liked to hear about her experience.
Everything you just said is completely conjured up in your own mind. Zero misogyny went on in that discussion. It was free form, off the cuff. Whether she didn't feel she had anything to contribute or felt she "couldn't" because the bad straight white men weren't giving her a window, it's all on her. Speak the fuck up if you have something to say and if you miss your opportunity then don't blame it on made up misogyny. (which, ironically, she probably would never. It's just random professional victims in the yt comments white knighting for someone who didn't ask for it. god, I hate right now.)
Do you notice there is a woman cinematographer there? I am was very eager to hear what she had to say. An was very dissapointed when nobody gives her time to speak...
What about that freeform discussion told you that no one "gave her time" to speak? It was off the cuff, people chiming in whenever they had a thought and she chose to sit there in silence.
They have to be *some* race, and besides they only care about getting cinematographers to interview, not what race they are. You can't expect them to go out of their way to get specifically a non-white person on just because some douche thought there wasn't enough variety. Besides, I'd feel insulted if I was only invited due to my race, instead of my ability, and not proud that my race is represented. Because newsflash: people who care about results don't give a shit about race, it's irrelevant.
@@RazvanMaioru Lemme just make sure I understand. I watched all 20 videos in this series. You're basically saying they don't factor race into who they select at all, subconsciously or otherwise. So if over the course of 20 videos, if every single person they interviewed is white, that's either due to random luck, or it's simply reflective of the people who get "results", who time after time after time just happen to be only white. And why do you have to make your point via name-calling? I didn't resort to that, so I'm not sure why you feel the need to address me that way. Also, unless you're not white, you can't possibly know what it means to be our psyche to be included in these prestigious roundtables.
@@DarkwingproductionsNet www.studiobinder.com/blog/best-cinematographers/ Here is the first list that came up when I searched for, as you put it, "world-renowned cinematographers". Being the first one I found, you can't claim I've chosen one specifically because it fits my point. Also, being written by a black man, you can't claim much bias towards white people. That said, 21 out of the 27 on the list happen to be white, and one of the 6 others I distinctly remember being the focus of more than one video on this channel, though they weren't roundtable videos. To me that shows that there just aren't *as many* non-white cinematographers to choose from, and the non-white cinematographers that were interviewed just happened not to be part of the roundtable interviews, but were interviewed individually. As for the "name-calling", I wasn't insuting you specifically as an individual, rather referring to the condescending tone of the request for more variety. As a final note, I don't think race has an impact on thought process or opinion, unlike the way someone was brought up and other factors independent of race, just like how race doesn't have an impact on someone's favourite colour, but various events during their childhood do have an impact. Therefore I consider your final argument invalid, as everyone would have a different reaction that we two can't predict, which is completely independent of race, in that people of the same race but from different continents would have different reactions, just like people of different race in just your region would have different reactions. Lumping all white people (and then all non-white people) into having the same thoughts is a bit nonsensical to me.
Cooke's channel is really a place for us to really have a chance of communication with the masters instead of subscribing for only ads. good job cooke!!! love it!
These are so valuable I can’t begin to tell you. I’m a first time Director and Producer. What I consistently take away from these videos that’s most important to me. Is how to best help my team do the best job in telling the story I’m (we) are trying to tell. I’m better able to communicate with every department in their own nomenclature. They also help me stay within my budget, while still giving the proper time to get my scene right for the story. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH
was a pleasure to listen to all the male DoP's.........
Actually knowledgeable people talking/sharing in-depth tips and tricks. Marvelous!
Very interesting. Happened to be there on the day for the shots @ 2:55. the call sheet for that day read; "IF SUNNY, SHOOTING..." followed by the scenes that we did end up shooting. what a fantastic practical example!
Whats even more amazing is the blocking used in this round table interview!
This channel is pure gold. So much great content.
Thank you so much for this roundtable series! It's amazing! Not that other formats are not interesting, but this is such a pleasure to watch and hear conversation between professionals of that level!
Shooting daytime exteriors is my absolute worst nightmare as a no-to-low budget filmmaker. There's a lot of really great information here!
Agreed, I actually learnt a lot more about shooting day exteriors than I thought I would. I'm terrible at day exteriors on location (vs in soundstage), but somehow get lucky with overcast days!
I’ve seen many round tables. This is the first time I’ve seen a round stool 😂
They're assuming it'll get fixed in post.
@@joshualeese2604 8--)
Fantastic info! More of these are always welcomed 🎥👌🏽
The best tool for cinematographers: Comfortable footwear!
I love this channel, keep up good work :)
Imagine being the dp that has to light a round table of experienced cinematographers.
This is fire
Why didn’t we hear from the Lady DoP??? Did some say “Equity?”????
Great stuff - can we have longer, please?
We've split up the interviews based on the questions we received. Because we know you guys like longer edits, we're keeping this slightly longer than usual :)
Another invaluable video 📹 👌
Gotta love weather Apps & Colourists 🙏
Really informative!
Quality content I must admit.
Thanks guys!
Can we just step back and realise that this entire video comes from a question in the RUclips comments?
Can we have subtile in french plss!!!
Saving to watch properly later 🙌
Masterclass
South African crews don't mess around.
Grey in exeter and rains most days.
I hate to be negative given that this is a gift of time and effort, and I appreciate that. But there's not much useful information here, more or less just anecdotal storytelling. A curious fellow could learn a lot more from 10 minutes reading Blain Brown. I was about to turn it off and the end bit came about post color. It is at least nice to hear this posited as a tool that informs decision making on set. Less experienced Producers are often surprised that some of my first questions are about who is doing the post. Sometimes they haven't even lined them up yet and then ask "how much time/money will this take?" This is revealing. You have wonderful minds here. Challenge them a bit more and I think you will be rewarded with the result. Backlight with the Sun? OK how about the difficulties of how film vs digital handles this, bit depth, dynamic range, sensitometry, log curves. When you watch a cooking show do you want to hear about how nice the food tastes or how to cook it? Again I understand that this is a gift, and I value that you have made this effort. You have some wonderful resources here. don't squander them, don't go lowest common denominator . And your lenses, the tops. They are always my first request. ;-)
I guess they don't really care. I mean that they don't really care about unpacking any useful information, because people who have been in the industry long enough, just figure it out on the spot. Its a little bit like, recording musicians in the record industry; You can't really teach someone to do something that so specific because there could be 101 different ways to overcome any problematic scenario. Likewise, these guys are more so just talking about problem that they've faced and how they overcame those specific challenges. But you're right, it could have been a bit more useful, but then again, unfortunately it wasn't really their aim.
Dead on!
wouldnt have been a table needed for the drinks ?
hahah :)
You ever consider making subtitles ?
I’m hearing two schools of thought here & one is indeed practical (From Gavin) others sound slightly dangerous .. in that you’ll get a producer hearing that - lets use a colourist to polish the work & FIX things in POST…. & before you know it there’s a producer CUTTING $$$ from a budget & shoot time on set & sacrificing a good story saying - lets fix all that in POST. ( I hear it so many times from young DOP’s - Lets fix all that in POST! & a post house rubbing their hands together saying PAY DAY has arrived. This will be charged out at 100’s of hours in POST work. When if the proper planning of scheduling & practical solution, problem solving can fix some of these issues on set - in camera on time. It’s all about being CREATIVELY smart & thinking outside the box. Far too many young DOP’s just want big toys on set & be building their BRAND & saying POST will fix my mistakes & make me look good. WRONG! Learn the fundamentals & grow strong in your ability to use light you’ve got & make a good frame with what you have available to you.
😍😍😍
I loved this roundtable talk, it was super interesting and I made a lot of notes throughout. But, as a female cinematographer, I was SO extremely disappointed to not only see the lack of representation and diversity on this panel but seeing that Kate Reid was not able to get in a single comment throughout the 14-minute clip was really upsetting. Everyone else talked multiple times and it is disappointing to see that nobody let her have a word in. It seems like a reflection of how the industry still is today. I understand that all of these cinematographers are extremely talented, but there is a great amount of POC and female cinematographers that could have been featured as well. It is 2020.
The channel commented above that in one of their other videos, she had some good comments - I watched that video and it was literally 30 seconds of Kate speaking. And that was the only time she spoke in the entire video. She must have said more during filming - someone just made the decision not to include it!
I totally agree with you. By minute 7 of the clip, I started anticipating that she may say something and the camera kept on panning to her but nothing was said. Smart ones usually sit back and observe and she might have done that but I would have liked to hear about her experience.
Everything you just said is completely conjured up in your own mind. Zero misogyny went on in that discussion. It was free form, off the cuff. Whether she didn't feel she had anything to contribute or felt she "couldn't" because the bad straight white men weren't giving her a window, it's all on her. Speak the fuck up if you have something to say and if you miss your opportunity then don't blame it on made up misogyny. (which, ironically, she probably would never. It's just random professional victims in the yt comments white knighting for someone who didn't ask for it. god, I hate right now.)
Do you notice there is a woman cinematographer there? I am was very eager to hear what she had to say. An was very dissapointed when nobody gives her time to speak...
What about that freeform discussion told you that no one "gave her time" to speak? It was off the cuff, people chiming in whenever they had a thought and she chose to sit there in silence.
Why didn’t the woman say anything?
Daniel Bezares yes, this talk has either not been facilitated in an even way or badly edited. There is one DOP who talks more than the rest too.
I got that impression too.
lol
Noticed it as well. A host would helped to control it.
ohmss006 on this channel?? Why even invite her then?
I was waiting for some input from the women... something. Clear her throat... cough, chuckle... anything.
You mean to tell me the only WORLD-renowned cinematographers you could find are all caucasian? It's 2020, not 1920 - do better.
They have to be *some* race, and besides they only care about getting cinematographers to interview, not what race they are. You can't expect them to go out of their way to get specifically a non-white person on just because some douche thought there wasn't enough variety. Besides, I'd feel insulted if I was only invited due to my race, instead of my ability, and not proud that my race is represented. Because newsflash: people who care about results don't give a shit about race, it's irrelevant.
@@RazvanMaioru Lemme just make sure I understand. I watched all 20 videos in this series. You're basically saying they don't factor race into who they select at all, subconsciously or otherwise. So if over the course of 20 videos, if every single person they interviewed is white, that's either due to random luck, or it's simply reflective of the people who get "results", who time after time after time just happen to be only white. And why do you have to make your point via name-calling? I didn't resort to that, so I'm not sure why you feel the need to address me that way. Also, unless you're not white, you can't possibly know what it means to be our psyche to be included in these prestigious roundtables.
@@DarkwingproductionsNet www.studiobinder.com/blog/best-cinematographers/ Here is the first list that came up when I searched for, as you put it, "world-renowned cinematographers". Being the first one I found, you can't claim I've chosen one specifically because it fits my point. Also, being written by a black man, you can't claim much bias towards white people. That said, 21 out of the 27 on the list happen to be white, and one of the 6 others I distinctly remember being the focus of more than one video on this channel, though they weren't roundtable videos. To me that shows that there just aren't *as many* non-white cinematographers to choose from, and the non-white cinematographers that were interviewed just happened not to be part of the roundtable interviews, but were interviewed individually. As for the "name-calling", I wasn't insuting you specifically as an individual, rather referring to the condescending tone of the request for more variety. As a final note, I don't think race has an impact on thought process or opinion, unlike the way someone was brought up and other factors independent of race, just like how race doesn't have an impact on someone's favourite colour, but various events during their childhood do have an impact. Therefore I consider your final argument invalid, as everyone would have a different reaction that we two can't predict, which is completely independent of race, in that people of the same race but from different continents would have different reactions, just like people of different race in just your region would have different reactions. Lumping all white people (and then all non-white people) into having the same thoughts is a bit nonsensical to me.