Dave, the dealership parts department can cut the key for you. Some times they do it for free. It takes about five minutes. I took delivery of my 2016 ELR this pass Friday. What a beautiful car. Thanks for the info. Cheers!!!
The process you described sounds the same for the 2022-2023 Chevrolet Bolt. I bought two new fobs from a reputable seller on eBay for $46 (i.e. $23 each) The fobs purchased on eBay look identical to the OEM Chevy fobs, except the Chevy logo is missing. Paired (programmed) them myself following the directions outlined in the owner's manual. Tested and verified they work. Then had the actual metal key blanks cut at the local Ace Hardware store for $5 each. So now I have 4 fobs for the car. I took one and wrapped it in several times in aluminum foil (so the car does not recognize the fob in in vicinity of the car) and put it inside a magnetic mount weatherproof case and hid it under the car for emergency use.
Items attached to your key ring such as a car logo, bottle opener, USB drive, pen knife, tiny flashlight, etc are “fobs”. It does not refer to anything electronic.
The term "fob" as used in "key fob" originally referred to small decorative items, ornaments, or accessories that were attached to a watch chain or a set of keys.
I bought a used 2012 Honda several years ago and it had the key with fob built in but only came with one. I wanted to get a second key so I called a few Honda dealers. First quote I got was $160. Second quote was $80. I called back the first one on accident thinking I was calling a third dealership so I mentioned that other dealer in the next town over quoted me half his price. All of a sudden he goes well I’ll tell you what I have an open appointment today if you can get here in a half hour I’ll beat his price and do it for $60 lol
I have a 2010 Cadillac SRX and the programming process for an additional fob was identical to what you showed (except the drivers door does have a lock). The 5 turn and placement of fob to program worked perfectly as shown. But one thing you didn’t mention (perhaps you didn’t try) the car would start but would not drive. I discovered that the transmission is disabled for 30 minutes to hinder this as a method of theft. After 30 minutes (actually I just tried the next morning) everything worked. The dealer parts counter guy (not service dept) was kind enough to cut the key for me for free. Saved me a ton of money and the cheap blank fob I purchased on Amazon was an exact duplicate of my original Cadillac fob with the Cadillac emblem. I don’t even know which was which now 10 years after I did this.
We were looking at an Ioniq 5 and the dealership added a “Key Fob Replacement” Warranty for $699 CDN. They said it would cover a lost or broken fobs for 5 years. They would also replace the batteries. We didn’t buy the car.
It’s absolutely a dealer scam. Polestar quoted me $700 to purchase a second Polestar 2 key and program it. I’ll look into a generic option and online stuff to see reprogramming tips!
Max, my local locksmith made me a Chevy key fob replacement but I don't know what they charge because Chevy was doing it free with my pre-loved Impala.
You can buy new generic key fobs with or without a physical uncut key. My 2005 Prius remote died but I still had the physical key so I bought a new remote without physical key to save a few bucks. And yes, any locksmith can cut a new key but it would have been easier if you had ordered your key fob with a blank key. You can buy an uncut blank ELR key online to be cut. For your 2015 Chevy Volt (and also Chevy Bolts) they have a physical door handle with a hidden key slot on the driver door covered by a plastic cap. You pry off the cap with the physical key. I guess for the ELR without physical door handles they thought it was too awkward to insert a key in the that cut out area of the door and opted to put the key hole on the hatch and had to devise a way to unlock the doors.
A replacement key for my 2019 Kia Niro EV cost $600. I found a replacement online for $75 but it cost around $200 for a locksmith to program it. I wish my Niro could program its own key. Still it costs less than half to get a spare when I bypassed the dealer. Dealers are losing out when they try to gouge customers.
@@dianewallace6064 I used a mobile locksmith to do the job who could have added a premium to services. Call around for pricing if you don't need the convenience.
Done the same thing with a replacement TV remote from Amazon about $7 and it was already good to go ,but I still prefer a physical handbook to one that’s only accessible on the screen,you can take it out of the car which sometimes hugely beneficial
Bought an OEM fob for my Volt on eBay. Similar reasonable price. Programming myself was easy. Had to call a half dozen locksmiths before I found one who could cut the internal key.
The Chevy Volt requires one key fob to create a 2nd key flob. Where as the Chevy Bolt requires two keys to create a third key. Where one only has one key fob and desires a 2nd key fob, I recommend going to a Automotive Locksmith and they will provide the key, program the key, and cut the key for under $200.00. Yes, you can get your key cut there as well.
Hence, this is one more reason why they are called “stealerships.” Try to avoid them as much as possible. I want to hear if a locksmith can cut that key. BTW, HD & Lowe’s have kiosk machines for key cutting. I wonder if those can do it.
My local locksmith bought the key cutter for the flat keys in modern cars. However Lowes and other places like that do not cut this style key. The key cutting machines, they can cut home style keys, and I have never seen one that can cut a car key - the new style. Sure someone will make one someday, and they even have some self serve key cutters that are loaded with key fobs with buttons on them, and sell them cut for about $50 or $75. My local locksmith also spends about $1,200 a year to update the computer program that can program the key fobs for any car on their list. (so most of them).
A big thank you, I tried adding a fob once before and never got it to work. Got the one off Amazon for $23, followed your video (especially exactly how to place the fob, which isn't totally clear in the manual), and it worked first time.
The dealer was quoting the factory FOB (which is close to $200 MSRP just for the FOB) plus the labor time to program. I am sure they were quoting the "book" time to reprogram the entire system (which would be needed if you lost all keys and/or you wanted the key you did not have to be removed from the computer so it would no longer work on the car). The funny thing is if the tech did not know about the programming method you used (which is very possible), they would have gone through the longer method used to reprogram the entire system. You might have better luck with a locksmith to have the new key blade cut. Some manufactures cut the key off the VIN before it is shipped to the dealer, which is why in those cases the dealer will require proof of ownership on the car before they order a new key for a customer. I have also heard of dealers saying they will not cut keys (if they have a machine to do so) for customers who did not buy the key fob from them.
My Bolt came with only one fob. I went to an independent locksmith and paid $200+. It was way less than the dealer but I like your solution even better.
I bought a very nice Tesla fob for my wife from Tesla for $175 and they programmed it for free. I didn’t have to jump up and down while rubbing my head during a sunny day to program it eitherlol. Dealers are scammers! Keep up the good work!
So the price of cutting the metallic key from inside the fob, plus the programming, plus the Cadillac label on the back of the fob costs around 470 USD extra at dealership vs the real online cost of a fob which is less than 30 USD. At least you have nice bathrooms, some candy, free wifi while waiting.
a lot of independent hardware stores can cut them too - you'll typically need to supply the blank - they could have some generic ones that won't fit in the fob though.
While the Cadillac system seems archaic, on the Tesla, you would need to pull off the round tow hook cover on the front bumper, pull out the two wires, attach a 12v battery to unlock your car.
That's only if you run the main battery out AND also run the 12v battery out so the car won't unlock. That's not what he's talking about. He's just talking about just losing the key fob. Then with Tesla, if you lost your keycard, you 1. use your phone and 2. Then just order another card on the app for 45.00
The HV battery doesn’t run anything the 12v one does. If your 12v battery dies, you’re basically bricked. You ever have a 12v battery die on an EV? I have, on my i3. On the Tesla, the HV battery will charge your 12v. On my i3 the 12v would charge when the car was plugged. 12v batteries still die regardless.
This is true for a lot of GM products - Ford _used to be this way too_ (programing a key or fob with at least the "primary" one still around). Most European brands and some Asian brands you'll need a "scan tool" or an ODB II "dongle" with a phone app to add an additional key fob. The fobs are about the same as what Dave shows but to program / add it could involve $75-$800 for the gear to do it. I probably wouldn't buy some brands unless they come with both keys/fobs or unless the seller will include an additional one (and it's in writing).
My local locksmith spends about $1,200 a year to update his computer so he can program many hundreds of cars. He has to plug into a OBDII port on my Ford, the Dodge that I brought to him, with a key I bought on Amazon. $25 for a pair of keys. $20 or $25 for them to program each key, and cut them. Flat one or the regular cut like my 2007 Ford Edge has.
Bought a used Lincoln MKS and dealer could only find one key. The salesman brought me over to the parts department and they wanted over 300 bucks and that's with employee discount. As it turned out the other keys were at another of their locations. Ended up with a total of 3 fobs cuz that's was turned in to them on the trade. I looked up the reprogramming procedure and it was nearly identical to what you did.
The ELR is basically a CTS coupe on a Volt platform. The lock system is taken from the C7 (?) Corvette and the CTS coupe. Does the ELR have the emergency door release levers on the floor, driver and passenger sides?
While this might work for an older car, it likely won't work for a newer car. I have personally spoken to people who bought remote transmitters online and then had to get them from a dealer anyway. They also paid the dealer to try to get it to work. So, they're out $100+ then the dealership charges for a functioning unit.
You don't need to go to a locksmith or a dealership for cutting the keys - go to a small corner shop who's got a mini lathe, they'll probably do it for free
When one of my keys stopped working, my BMW service department told me my key was obsolete and needed to be replaced at a cost of €250 each. I demurred and let it drop. A while later, on a hunch, dropped into a locksmith who speedily opened up the fob, changed the battery for €5 , reassembled the key, and it's been working fine since. I am not happy with the dealer but don't want to make a fuss. Saved €250 in one fell swoop. 😮
Dave I am clueless; however, a friend of mine has been a GM certified Service Technician since 1986. He said that the term FOB related to the GM vehicle means “Frequency Operational Buttons..
Hello Dave , there is a guy maybe not to far from you that does diagnoses and repairs electrical problems on cars including electric ones ,he is in State College P.A. He is on youtube at Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics
Tesla does make it really nice with pretty cheap fobs, and of course the ultra cheap RFID cards. I bought an extra set and gave one to my friend who lives nearby just in case I somehow lose both my phone and wallet.
@@Harrythehun But I can’t see where it cost anymore to change the color of the material. To offer only White, Black, and Grey is totally ridiculous. This would change the looks of Tesla from what is now a bland interior.
@@ronniemullis8717 I'd be more concerned about overall fit and finish than color choice - that said Tesla offers few choices I believe to keep manufacture costs down and because people will buy them anyway. Notice that over the past few years where there was "supply chain" issues people still purchased (for more than MSRP) cars that lacked features and choices that were common in 2019 like heated seats, steering wheels, etc. The "chip shortage" was a legit reason but manufacturers also took advantage in that they could skip a lot of features produce more and at higher margins....
I bought a pair of replacement keys for my Ford Edge and 2017 Ford C-Max. The C-max has the flat key like you have. My local locksmith has a computer for programming the keys, and they spend about $1,200 a year to get updated software for their computer. They can cut the keys, even the flat ones with a inset like you have. I am guessing Cadillac dealer will want to sell you a new key for $550, not cut the key that you bought someplace else. Even if they do you a favor, and only charge 1 hour of shop time - what is that? $125? I would keep using the new key fob, and leave the original one at home. If you lose the original, then. you can not program another one, until after you get the key cut at a local locksmith. Call them to ask if they can cut the new flat car keys. Most have the machine. It is called "Laser Cut" but actually they have a flat drill or mill about 1/8" diameter to cut them.
Jaguar quoted me today $922 for a new key fob on my F-Type. $566 Fob, $132 Cutting the internal key shank & 225 for labor ! They claim it takes an hour to program (please). I passed; its beyond stupid.
Yes a scam. “Stealership” is what these dealers are called. The Tesla Model 3 & Y fob is $175 plus tax, and of course an app on the smartphone will work too, as well as a card key. By the way, a couple of years ago, a new Toyota fob was $225 and a locksmith charged less than $100 to program.
Cheap compared to Mercedes. MB changed their fobs in 2014 so they are not programmable by independent locksmiths. The fob cost $250 and the programming about $500 using a special device to get the codes from the from the car.
these days it does - years ago the immobilizer was separate from the remote lock / unlock part of the fob - and the key was the "key" to the immobilizer - one notable exception was some Italian cars like Ferrari where even if you had the key and the car was unlocked unless you pressed the key fob immobilizer button while IN the car it wouldn't fully start the car. For the most part if the car has push button start and keyless go the key fob runs the immobilizer.
Yup. Don't know when mercedes switched over to fobs, but the newer ones, 2000's, are almost impossible to reprogram. I've looked online and even places that specialize in making electronic keys don't do mercedes keys. If you order one from the dealer, they have to get it from the mothership in Stuttgart.
GM has not engineered a reliable car for years. This type of jerryrig is a joke in an 80k car. What group of engineers thinks this is the way to go? I would be worried about this very bad engineering throughout the car.
"Free On Board." It originally comes from the shipping industry, where it signifies the point at which ownership and responsibility for goods transfer from the seller to the buyer. In the case of a key fob, it refers to the small remote control device that is used to lock, unlock, and sometimes start a vehicle remotely. The term "key fob" suggests that it's a portable device that carries the electronic key function for the vehicle.
First of all you are, by the manufacturer, entitled to two key fobs, your dealer cheated you. I bought a Cadillac 2016 ATS-V hi-performance coupe and was offered a key replacement plan when I purchased. For about $200.00 I could have two replacements as long as my warranty lasted. The salesman told me to wait a few months and ask for a replacement to have the extra third fob. The fob you have is the same fob used by my Wife’s 2014 Cadillac SRX, my 2016 fob is completely different and neither vehicle has the convoluted system yours does to program a key. I’m not familiar with ELR but don’t plan to become familiar either. My 2016 ATS-V came with a 5G system so I should be good for a while but your phone app will only work as long as 4G lasts so guard that second key fob. You really should find out who has that other fob or you might find your driveway empty some morning.
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Dave, the dealership parts department can cut the key for you. Some times they do it for free. It takes about five minutes. I took delivery of my 2016 ELR this pass Friday. What a beautiful car. Thanks for the info. Cheers!!!
The process you described sounds the same for the 2022-2023 Chevrolet Bolt. I bought two new fobs from a reputable seller on eBay for $46 (i.e. $23 each) The fobs purchased on eBay look identical to the OEM Chevy fobs, except the Chevy logo is missing. Paired (programmed) them myself following the directions outlined in the owner's manual. Tested and verified they work. Then had the actual metal key blanks cut at the local Ace Hardware store for $5 each. So now I have 4 fobs for the car. I took one and wrapped it in several times in aluminum foil (so the car does not recognize the fob in in vicinity of the car) and put it inside a magnetic mount weatherproof case and hid it under the car for emergency use.
Items attached to your key ring such as a car logo, bottle opener, USB drive, pen knife, tiny flashlight, etc are “fobs”. It does not refer to anything electronic.
Also attach an AirTag the the key fobs you have.
The term "fob" as used in "key fob" originally referred to small decorative items, ornaments, or accessories that were attached to a watch chain or a set of keys.
Ah, this is why Dave keeps capitalizing it as FOB - he thinks it's an acronym.
@@kylecordesit is. Stands for Free On Board. Designates ownership.
yup, the word probably came from the German word "fuppe" meaning pocket. meaning taken from Locksmith Pros website.
Correct. I've used it this way since the 1970s.
@@LAURABOHDAN Free on Board is shipping term.
I bought a used 2012 Honda several years ago and it had the key with fob built in but only came with one. I wanted to get a second key so I called a few Honda dealers. First quote I got was $160. Second quote was $80. I called back the first one on accident thinking I was calling a third dealership so I mentioned that other dealer in the next town over quoted me half his price. All of a sudden he goes well I’ll tell you what I have an open appointment today if you can get here in a half hour I’ll beat his price and do it for $60 lol
I have a 2010 Cadillac SRX and the programming process for an additional fob was identical to what you showed (except the drivers door does have a lock). The 5 turn and placement of fob to program worked perfectly as shown. But one thing you didn’t mention (perhaps you didn’t try) the car would start but would not drive. I discovered that the transmission is disabled for 30 minutes to hinder this as a method of theft. After 30 minutes (actually I just tried the next morning) everything worked. The dealer parts counter guy (not service dept) was kind enough to cut the key for me for free. Saved me a ton of money and the cheap blank fob I purchased on Amazon was an exact duplicate of my original Cadillac fob with the Cadillac emblem. I don’t even know which was which now 10 years after I did this.
We were looking at an Ioniq 5 and the dealership added a “Key Fob Replacement” Warranty for $699 CDN. They said it would cover a lost or broken fobs for 5 years. They would also replace the batteries. We didn’t buy the car.
It’s absolutely a dealer scam. Polestar quoted me $700 to purchase a second Polestar 2 key and program it. I’ll look into a generic option and online stuff to see reprogramming tips!
I saw on wisely Automotive the Polestar activity fob does not have a replaceable battery, pretty sure I'd be hacking that case open
Max, my local locksmith made me a Chevy key fob replacement but I don't know what they charge because Chevy was doing it free with my pre-loved Impala.
I believe the C7 Corvette is similar with the hatch having a manual door pull....
You can buy new generic key fobs with or without a physical uncut key. My 2005 Prius remote died but I still had the physical key so I bought a new remote without physical key to save a few bucks. And yes, any locksmith can cut a new key but it would have been easier if you had ordered your key fob with a blank key. You can buy an uncut blank ELR key online to be cut. For your 2015 Chevy Volt (and also Chevy Bolts) they have a physical door handle with a hidden key slot on the driver door covered by a plastic cap. You pry off the cap with the physical key. I guess for the ELR without physical door handles they thought it was too awkward to insert a key in the that cut out area of the door and opted to put the key hole on the hatch and had to devise a way to unlock the doors.
A replacement key for my 2019 Kia Niro EV cost $600. I found a replacement online for $75 but it cost around $200 for a locksmith to program it. I wish my Niro could program its own key. Still it costs less than half to get a spare when I bypassed the dealer. Dealers are losing out when they try to gouge customers.
I needed a replacement fob for my used Chevy and a local locksmith made it but Chevy paid for it. So good to know what a locksmith charges.
@@dianewallace6064 I used a mobile locksmith to do the job who could have added a premium to services. Call around for pricing if you don't need the convenience.
Done the same thing with a replacement TV remote from Amazon about $7 and it was already good to go ,but I still prefer a physical handbook to one that’s only accessible on the screen,you can take it out of the car which sometimes hugely beneficial
Bought an OEM fob for my Volt on eBay. Similar reasonable price. Programming myself was easy. Had to call a half dozen locksmiths before I found one who could cut the internal key.
BRILLIANT! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks Dave great video as always 😊
Good move Dave. BTW my 2022 Porsche 718 GTS key fob is over $700 if I have to get it from the dealer.
The Chevy Volt requires one key fob to create a 2nd key flob. Where as the Chevy Bolt requires two keys to create a third key. Where one only has one key fob and desires a 2nd key fob, I recommend going to a Automotive Locksmith and they will provide the key, program the key, and cut the key for under $200.00.
Yes, you can get your key cut there as well.
Good to know! Thx for watching
Hence, this is one more reason why they are called “stealerships.” Try to avoid them as much as possible.
I want to hear if a locksmith can cut that key. BTW, HD & Lowe’s have kiosk machines for key cutting. I wonder if those can do it.
My local locksmith bought the key cutter for the flat keys in modern cars. However Lowes and other places like that do not cut this style key. The key cutting machines, they can cut home style keys, and I have never seen one that can cut a car key - the new style. Sure someone will make one someday, and they even have some self serve key cutters that are loaded with key fobs with buttons on them, and sell them cut for about $50 or $75.
My local locksmith also spends about $1,200 a year to update the computer program that can program the key fobs for any car on their list. (so most of them).
A big thank you, I tried adding a fob once before and never got it to work. Got the one off Amazon for $23, followed your video (especially exactly how to place the fob, which isn't totally clear in the manual), and it worked first time.
Awesome!
Really good looking vehicle .
The dealer was quoting the factory FOB (which is close to $200 MSRP just for the FOB) plus the labor time to program. I am sure they were quoting the "book" time to reprogram the entire system (which would be needed if you lost all keys and/or you wanted the key you did not have to be removed from the computer so it would no longer work on the car). The funny thing is if the tech did not know about the programming method you used (which is very possible), they would have gone through the longer method used to reprogram the entire system.
You might have better luck with a locksmith to have the new key blade cut. Some manufactures cut the key off the VIN before it is shipped to the dealer, which is why in those cases the dealer will require proof of ownership on the car before they order a new key for a customer. I have also heard of dealers saying they will not cut keys (if they have a machine to do so) for customers who did not buy the key fob from them.
My Bolt came with only one fob. I went to an independent locksmith and paid $200+. It was way less than the dealer but I like your solution even better.
I bought a very nice Tesla fob for my wife from Tesla for $175 and they programmed it for free. I didn’t have to jump up and down while rubbing my head during a sunny day to program it eitherlol. Dealers are scammers! Keep up the good work!
I’ve never seen or heard of this car…. Wow. It looks really cool. Especially for 2016.
So the price of cutting the metallic key from inside the fob, plus the programming, plus the Cadillac label on the back of the fob costs around 470 USD extra at dealership vs the real online cost of a fob which is less than 30 USD.
At least you have nice bathrooms, some candy, free wifi while waiting.
Any halfway modern locksmith can cut that key. Youll probably need to supply a key blank, but that's it👍
a lot of independent hardware stores can cut them too - you'll typically need to supply the blank - they could have some generic ones that won't fit in the fob though.
@@Scotty_in_OhioHardware stores can't code the key if it's electronic. Only a locksmith or the dealer can
While the Cadillac system seems archaic, on the Tesla, you would need to pull off the round tow hook cover on the front bumper, pull out the two wires, attach a 12v battery to unlock your car.
That's only if you run the main battery out AND also run the 12v battery out so the car won't unlock. That's not what he's talking about. He's just talking about just losing the key fob. Then with Tesla, if you lost your keycard, you 1. use your phone and 2. Then just order another card on the app for 45.00
The HV battery doesn’t run anything the 12v one does. If your 12v battery dies, you’re basically bricked. You ever have a 12v battery die on an EV? I have, on my i3. On the Tesla, the HV battery will charge your 12v. On my i3 the 12v would charge when the car was plugged. 12v batteries still die regardless.
This is true for a lot of GM products - Ford _used to be this way too_ (programing a key or fob with at least the "primary" one still around). Most European brands and some Asian brands you'll need a "scan tool" or an ODB II "dongle" with a phone app to add an additional key fob. The fobs are about the same as what Dave shows but to program / add it could involve $75-$800 for the gear to do it. I probably wouldn't buy some brands unless they come with both keys/fobs or unless the seller will include an additional one (and it's in writing).
My local locksmith spends about $1,200 a year to update his computer so he can program many hundreds of cars. He has to plug into a OBDII port on my Ford, the Dodge that I brought to him, with a key I bought on Amazon. $25 for a pair of keys. $20 or $25 for them to program each key, and cut them. Flat one or the regular cut like my 2007 Ford Edge has.
One of the best looking Cadillacs!
I have to say that Caddy looks sharp.
Bought a used Lincoln MKS and dealer could only find one key. The salesman brought me over to the parts department and they wanted over 300 bucks and that's with employee discount. As it turned out the other keys were at another of their locations. Ended up with a total of 3 fobs cuz that's was turned in to them on the trade. I looked up the reprogramming procedure and it was nearly identical to what you did.
The ELR is basically a CTS coupe on a Volt platform. The lock system is taken from the C7 (?) Corvette and the CTS coupe. Does the ELR have the emergency door release levers on the floor, driver and passenger sides?
While this might work for an older car, it likely won't work for a newer car. I have personally spoken to people who bought remote transmitters online and then had to get them from a dealer anyway. They also paid the dealer to try to get it to work. So, they're out $100+ then the dealership charges for a functioning unit.
You don't need to go to a locksmith or a dealership for cutting the keys - go to a small corner shop who's got a mini lathe, they'll probably do it for free
When one of my keys stopped working, my BMW service department told me my key was obsolete and needed to be replaced at a cost of €250 each. I demurred and let it drop. A while later, on a hunch, dropped into a locksmith who speedily opened up the fob, changed the battery for €5 , reassembled the key, and it's been working fine since. I am not happy with the dealer but don't want to make a fuss. Saved €250 in one fell swoop. 😮
What car do you have on order Dave? Im thinking Gravity? Or it could be a Porche of some sort?
Dave I am clueless; however, a friend of mine has been a GM certified Service Technician since 1986. He said that the term FOB related to the GM vehicle means “Frequency Operational Buttons..
Your friend is wrong. Fob is a word. Google it.
Thumbs up Dave!
Free On Board. Designates ownership.
Love Laura
Hello Dave , there is a guy maybe not to far from you that does diagnoses and repairs electrical problems on cars including electric ones ,he is in State College P.A.
He is on youtube at Pine Hollow Auto Diagnostics
I believe that any locksmith can cut the key, you'll just have to show them proof of ownership before they do.
Tesla does make it really nice with pretty cheap fobs, and of course the ultra cheap RFID cards. I bought an extra set and gave one to my friend who lives nearby just in case I somehow lose both my phone and wallet.
On another subject, I love the interior color and design in your Cadillac. Why doesn’t Tesla offer choices like this?
Unfortunately Tesla isn't a luxury brand. Those Cadis costed over $ 80k?
@@Harrythehun But I can’t see where it cost anymore to change the color of the material. To offer only White, Black, and Grey is totally ridiculous. This would change the looks of Tesla from what is now a bland interior.
@@ronniemullis8717 I'd be more concerned about overall fit and finish than color choice - that said Tesla offers few choices I believe to keep manufacture costs down and because people will buy them anyway. Notice that over the past few years where there was "supply chain" issues people still purchased (for more than MSRP) cars that lacked features and choices that were common in 2019 like heated seats, steering wheels, etc. The "chip shortage" was a legit reason but manufacturers also took advantage in that they could skip a lot of features produce more and at higher margins....
Tesla is not a luxury brand, not even close. Cadillac has been around for like a hundred years, they know luxury.
@@InternetDude Luxury is tech now not chrome and off color interiors. No other manufacturer has the tech that Tesla has
I bought a pair of replacement keys for my Ford Edge and 2017 Ford C-Max. The C-max has the flat key like you have. My local locksmith has a computer for programming the keys, and they spend about $1,200 a year to get updated software for their computer.
They can cut the keys, even the flat ones with a inset like you have. I am guessing Cadillac dealer will want to sell you a new key for $550, not cut the key that you bought someplace else. Even if they do you a favor, and only charge 1 hour of shop time - what is that? $125?
I would keep using the new key fob, and leave the original one at home. If you lose the original, then. you can not program another one, until after you get the key cut at a local locksmith. Call them to ask if they can cut the new flat car keys. Most have the machine. It is called "Laser Cut" but actually they have a flat drill or mill about 1/8" diameter to cut them.
Jaguar quoted me today $922 for a new key fob on my F-Type. $566 Fob, $132 Cutting the internal key shank & 225 for labor ! They claim it takes an hour to program (please). I passed; its beyond stupid.
FOB= frequency operated button and a locksmith can cut the laser cut key
How much does it cost to have the PHYSICAL BLANK key cut?
Can you start the car with the new key or it just unlocks the car ?
“FOB” = Frequency Operated Button (according to Wikipedia).
I think Locksmiths will make key fob replacements but I don't know what they charge.
Frequency Operated Button
My 2009 Corvette didn't have door locks either.
FOB-frequency operated button
WRONG!
I guess that's why they're called car stealerships
I think a locksmith can cut it for you. I just paid a locksmith $202 toget me a extra key for my 2004 Lexus.
Frequency operated button
Yes a scam. “Stealership” is what these dealers are called. The Tesla Model 3 & Y fob is $175 plus tax, and of course an app on the smartphone will work too, as well as a card key.
By the way, a couple of years ago, a new Toyota fob was $225 and a locksmith charged less than $100 to program.
Thanks for reminding me why I don’t buy cars, parts, or brands that have a STEALERSHIP!
Cheap compared to Mercedes. MB changed their fobs in 2014 so they are not programmable by independent locksmiths. The fob cost $250 and the programming about $500 using a special device to get the codes from the from the car.
What next? The glories of the Hudson, Studebaker or Imperial?
Dave.... batteries+ can cut that key for you.
Will the immobilizer work with the knock-off key fob?
these days it does - years ago the immobilizer was separate from the remote lock / unlock part of the fob - and the key was the "key" to the immobilizer - one notable exception was some Italian cars like Ferrari where even if you had the key and the car was unlocked unless you pressed the key fob immobilizer button while IN the car it wouldn't fully start the car. For the most part if the car has push button start and keyless go the key fob runs the immobilizer.
@@Scotty_in_Ohio Interesting. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question.
These fobs cost about $25 to produce.
Did you not notice the Amazon listing said for 2010-2015, and your car is a 2016?
The ELR was on hiatus for 2015. It skipped from 2014 to 2016.
FOB= frequency operated button
It is short for Fobble.
Ace Hardware. Maybe $20 to get a copy made.
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Shame on you for buying a car with one FOB.
This cost should have been covered by the entity selling you the car.
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I got a good deal on the car. Thanks for watching !
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Any locksmith who cuts "Digital" keys can cut your key.
i just had to buy a second key for my new to me 1998 mercedes c43...it was 10% of what i paid for the car D:
Yup. Don't know when mercedes switched over to fobs, but the newer ones, 2000's, are almost impossible to reprogram. I've looked online and even places that specialize in making electronic keys don't do mercedes keys. If you order one from the dealer, they have to get it from the mothership in Stuttgart.
Being scammed by the dealership isn't something new.
Not the best idea to leave your car keys out in plain site. My friend has his car stolen after his house was broken into.
Ahhhhhh! Help me understand????
GM has not engineered a reliable car for years. This type of jerryrig is a joke in an 80k car. What group of engineers thinks this is the way to go? I would be worried about this very bad engineering throughout the car.
Full Of Buttons?
"Free On Board." It originally comes from the shipping industry, where it signifies the point at which ownership and responsibility for goods transfer from the seller to the buyer. In the case of a key fob, it refers to the small remote control device that is used to lock, unlock, and sometimes start a vehicle remotely. The term "key fob" suggests that it's a portable device that carries the electronic key function for the vehicle.
Frequency Operagted Button (Wikipedia)
First of all you are, by the manufacturer, entitled to two key fobs, your dealer cheated you. I bought a Cadillac 2016 ATS-V hi-performance coupe and was offered a key replacement plan when I purchased. For about $200.00 I could have two replacements as long as my warranty lasted. The salesman told me to wait a few months and ask for a replacement to have the extra third fob. The fob you have is the same fob used by my Wife’s 2014 Cadillac SRX, my 2016 fob is completely different and neither vehicle has the convoluted system yours does to program a key. I’m not familiar with ELR but don’t plan to become familiar either. My 2016 ATS-V came with a 5G system so I should be good for a while but your phone app will only work as long as 4G lasts so guard that second key fob. You really should find out who has that other fob or you might find your driveway empty some morning.
Good information but get to the point quicker
Boy, you are a chatty Cathy. I'm 8 minutes in and still no answer about getting a cheap fob.
Tesla probably has the lowest cost OEM key fobs at $175. and of course the cards hardly cost anything
You made this video way too long. I turned it off
Awesome!
As someone who sold Cadillacs for years... Thats one ugly caddy.
Disagree But that’s what makes life so much fun… so many opinions out there. Thanks for watching!
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