Ren - Seven Sins | Vocalist From The UK Reacts
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There seems to be a lot of confusion in the comments as to what onomatopoeia is. People seem to be confusing it for a double entendre. Onomatopoeia is when the word, when spoken, actually sounds like the thing it's describing. The word 'buzz', for example, actually sounds like a buzzing noise when you say it. The word 'whoosh' sounds like a whooshing noise when you say it. I hope this helps 😁❤️
I started a big thread on the REN's Rabbit Hole Fans group on Facebook to figure out the "onomatopoeia" bit. None of us have a solid answer. I added a summary of the best possibilities on the "Seven Sins" Genius Lyrics, to which I've heavily contributed.
The comment section on the FB thread had similar issues as the comments about onomatopoeia here.
My take from the use of the word was what Sick Boi implies, not what he says. It implies cough, wheeze, sigh, etc. Maybe I'm reaching though, idk.
Not sure if you’ve got the onomatopoeia reference yet but I saw somewhere else that forensic is ‘for Ren sick’ and onomatopoeia is ‘on a mat I pee ah’ then next line is fever …. Just connecting the dots of what illness can do.
@lindseyharrison neither of those things are onomatopoeia. That's just a rhyming double entendre. Onomatopoeia is what I described in the comment you replied to
@@TheCharlieSmithChannel sorry, I don’t comment on many videos. Just thought I’d pass over some observations I’ve picked up over many reactions. I’ve learnt new things for the same songs on different reactions. I’m always amazed, the wordplay is phenomenal.
'Onomatopoeia'. He emphasizes the 'ahh!' as a cry of pain, is my understanding of it. 👍
I just wanted to add that not only should people appreciate that they haven’t suffered through those things. But people who have suffered through those things he makes them feel like they’re not alone, which is miraculous.
He said in his (really good) interview with Zack Sang that he wanted this song to create an empathy window - your reaction shows he succeeded! 😁👍
That scheme you liked that referenced Clapton, Hendrix and Kendrick was finished brilliantly! It ends on the word 'forensic', rhyming with Kendrick. Take the syllables of 'forensic' and you have "for Ren's sick". Genius! :)
What a great observation!!! I have new appreciation for this song. Thank you!
The Uruk-hai are crossbreeds between Orcs and Goblin-men. I'm almost 60, and I've had health issues since I was a young teen. I've been exactly where this song takes you many times. Times of chronic, debilitating pain that lasted for months or years. Trapped in a bed will twist your mind. My dad said the most profound thing that helped me so many times. He said, "Mans greatest tool and his worse enemy is his imagination. You can create worlds of wonder and wolds of darkness."
This is one of the best songs I have ever heard. The depth to the lyricism is masterful.
Gotta say a massive thanks for introducing me to this guy a couple of months ago. His work is so raw!
You're welcome brother. I'm really enjoying the journey with ren. Haven't heard a bad thing from him. Glad you're enjoying it too
@@TheCharlieSmithChannel Same as, i like Ren with Liv, Sam, Chinchilla, The Big Push, everything he does.
I took "onomatopoeia" as referring to the sounds he makes immediately afterwards: "ah ah ah..." which is usually a sound that people make when suddenly in pain. Some say "ah" is an interjection, but I think it can easily be an onomatopoeia.
I thought it is because sick is a 'tinny' work that has the edge of the pain, like 'slice' is onomatopeic because the ssss is a cutting sound. So the 'ick' is as harsh. And sick boi sounds like retching or breathing in pain. Sharp in breath and sigh of pain. - Or simply sick and tick.
Hmmm that's not actually onomatopoeia. Onomatopoeia is very simply a word that imitates the thing it describes. Not that it has characteristics that could be described as being LIKE the thing. You've needed to catagorise it as 'tinny' and 'harsh' in order to make a tenuous link. Onomatopoeia is much more simple than that. Slice isn't onomatopoeia either and you don't hear 'slice' when you cut something. It's too much of a stretch
@@TheCharlieSmithChannel I couldn't resist the Monty Python tinny description, but you are right, it detracts from the actual definition. And the tick also doesn't work. I was distracted. Slice was the first example I learnt as onomatopoeic, and I still think of it every time I sharpen a knife or hear one slicing something hard, for example. Sick boy still sounds to me like the harsh breathing that I do when the pain gets bad.
Thanks for calling me out on that.
The way I understood it was "sick boi" is an onomatopoeia for the sound of zipping up the body bags referenced just before.
@@PotemkinDogpack That is an interesting reading. I can see that!
“Oh my GOD” was exactly my reaction on first listen. Such a powerhouse of a song reflecting personal pain but seeing the world’s pain as a coda, shifting emphasis away from introspection giving way to anger. I see it as a call to arms.
Directly after the onomatopoeia line, the background "ugh", "ugh", "ugh" vocals come in. My interpretation is that is the sound a sick boy makes. I could be wrong of course but, my interpretation of the content.
Ahh ok I missed that. That would certainly make sense. Thanks man
Keep in mind also that "sick" in the UK can also be the act of throwing up. And in that sense, the word "sick" sounds like barfing.
@gettingkilt hmm it means barfing. It doesn't sound like actual barfing, and that's what onomatopoeia is. Like the word buzz, for example. The word buzz sounds like the actual buzzing sound. The word sick doesn't sound like someone throwing up
I have Tourette syndrome which for me is not debilitating but it’s considered a disability, depending on the severity of it). I’m a composer and when I’m feeling down or ill, I have zero motivation to create. So kudos to Ren for making this song about his disability (Lime's isn’t a disability per se, it’s a disease that affects your life forever - which makes it a disability in my mind)!
Onomatopiea : this whole song Is Exactltly WHAT HIS ILLNESS SOUNDS LIKE .
howdy! thanks for that explaination, i've been too lazy to look it up. i always say, ren's video 'diazepam' sounds how Valium feels, so that makes sense!! i love the retching sound at beginning!!! kathleen
Great reaction. One part that Im yet to see any reactor catch is the reference of Sinnerman which is the the title of a famous Nina Simone song. Continues the previous artist scheme, and we know that ren is a fan of nina simone from his other performances of her songs.
And then the other part that i also missed initially too, is the word forensic at the end of of one of his early verses. Lots of other comments across reactions about it being a play on " for-ren's-sick."
This us the day he fell into psychosis at 25, still didn't have a diagnosis. 6 years into his disease and another treatment failed and left him in agony.
Exactly this. Ren explains it very well in the Zack Sang Show interview
What a powerful album opening track! ❤ Thanks for a great reaction 😊
This is my favourite song off Sick Boi. The lyricism in this one is so amazing. Ren is absolutely brilliant. One of my favourites is Forensic (For Ren Sick). Really enjoyed your reaction! I don't know that I fully understand the Onomatopoeia either ❤❤
It's how he says onomatopoeia.... He says AHHH that's the onomatopoeia I believe ❤️
i fully can relate with tis song im in pain 24hours every day get 2 hours sleep if im lucky ,had motorbike crash at 19yrs old broke most of my body was in a coma for 6mnths,then told i might not walk again,got through that with loads of pain then at 42 got stenosis and spine neves getting crushed ,that stuck my in a wheelchair ,followed by fluid on lungs heart attack and sepsis ,had op on cervical spine c1 to c5 to get me to walk slow and more pain worked to 75percent ,then got bloodclots in my leg and septic shock they took my leg and heart failure again and end stage kidney failure to top it off ,stuck in a wheelchair loads of pain and dialysis 3 times a week all great fun ,but some folks are worse off ,love the reaction rens music allways its home
My God, you are a true warrior. Respect!
Wow! You've really been through it haven't you. I take my hat off to you sir. You're amazing
Sick boi is defo a double entendre. I struggled with understanding the onomatopoeia line but i think its the literal meaning of his illness is described in this song using comparisons and insight. Hes such a clever man painting it so we can almost see through his eyes. Story telling genius. Subbed, loved your reaction 😊
Onamatopiea; perhaps it's sick (illness) and sic (as is written)? Ren can layer so many meanings within one line, so I guess we'll have to interpret for ourselves.
This song is an epic opening track for the album.
Thanks for your thoughtful commentary.
the best meaning for the onomatopoeia line i can think of is that ‘sick boy’ has that mix of sibilance and plosive sound. the ‘s’ is heavily hissed, like spite or pain, and the ‘ck’ and ‘b’ sounds are harsh. the cycle of spite and sudden pain are very reminiscent of what it feels like to have a chronic illness. the way he says it too, like he’s hissing in pain - very clever.
1. Love the shirt. 2. I really enjoyed your reaction.
Late to the party but so impressed wirh your review. You caught and understood so many of the brilliant bits. You nailed my favorite line “exhiled the shepherds and follow the sheep”. So sadly true here in the US.
Zip is an onomatopoeia ( a word that sounds like what it is).
The onomatopoeia is the “ah ah ah ah” after he says it 🖤
Great pick up on the LotR reference, he’s a big fan of those and loops them into a lot of songs.
Great insight! Every bar you stopped on were the same that got me the first listen. After a few listens, the whole thing became a gut punch! 😢❤
Really like your reactions. 💜 Hope to hear another Ren or his former band The Big Push soon.
I think this song is a MASTERPIECE!
Thanks for another great reaction Charlie. You need to check out Stan Walker's song I Am from the movie Origin you'll love it.
Thank you to whoever made me aware that Forensic is also For Ren Sick. Thank you for another great reaction. Also fire comments.
Appreciated your thoughts 👌 and Empathy towards people in chronic illnesses and pain
Onomatopoeia are words that describe a sound, eg. Argh! Woof! Eek!
I saw Onomatopoeia as not only describing him, but the label being all he was. Ren was gone and sick boy was the “sound” that replaced him. Like the word buzz capturing vibration, Sick Boi captures his new identity. (By its singularity. He is drilled down to being just a sick boi.)
I love your intellect! His bars are brilliant and the way you articulate to people like me, who have never experienced depression, what that feels like is moving! I'm glad he is alive to share his experiences, and I'm equally glad to hear yours. 🤍
6:16 - A good way of putting that. There are excitatory and inhibitory systems in the brain, and it seems that clinical depression is linked to an overactivity of the inhibitory systems, whereas anxiety is an overactivity of the excitatory systems. That means that many psychedelic compounds could be useful in treating depression because one of the main effects of psilocybin for example is the decrease in activity of the inhibitory systems, allowing for crosstalk between regions of the brain.
Recently discovered your channel and really like your insights and the way you structure your reactions. Really well done ❤
Thank you so much. I'm so glad you're enjoying the channel ☺️
My favorite song on the Sick Boi album . Thanks for your insightful reaction
Tiny correction. A tick is not an insect. It's an arachnid like a spider or a scorpion.
Thanks for that Jason. I did not know that. Very interesting 😁
Poor man, lymes disease can be very debilitating. Very intense words but the arrangement is very punchy, very defiant, very `not going to give in to this". . Always love your reactions, often food for personal thought. Shutting down is often thought of as a form of psychological paralysis - just can't motivate yourself to do anything at all - you just want to be inert. Jan. 24. E❤
Because of your reaction, I think I finally got the reason for the word onomatopoeia in this song. You gave the definition as a word that sounds like the thing it’s describing. The words sick boi are right before that. I think he might be saying that sick boi is an onomatopoeia for Ren. I could be totally wrong but that’s what hit me when I was listening to you.
I see what you're getting at but that's not onomatopoeia. Onomatopoeia is when the word, as a sound when said, sounds like the thing it's describing. Such a buzz. The word buzz sounds like a buzzing sound when you say it. The word whoosh, when said, sounds like a whooshing sound.
Great reaction! Subbed for your content.
Someone caught the line: Forensic…. For REN Sic.
Though it is spelled different a Mack 10 is a 10 wheeled truck. If that hits you at speed then you die. I did not know a Mac 10 was a gun; this makes more sense when Ren mentioned hot lead.
❤❤❤Hi so good to see you!!! Hope your good! HUGS FRIM North Dakota
Great break down..... Thanks
Bc He sounds like a sick boi & a reference to the song “sick boi”.
Everything he says, makes him sound like a sick boy
Onomatopoeia, his sick lyrics make a sick sound?
Subbing to watch your Ren ride!!!
Usually only lambs get slaughtered. Sheep get shaved to get wool.
Nice job, thanks.
News subscriber I’m here for some more ren
Loved this reaction, balanced between sympathy, empathy, and admiration. Music is at its best when it helps us understand ourselves and others better.
The language throughout Ren's lyrics for Seven Sins is notable for its playfulness on words and onomatopoeia. Enjoyed your reaction.
I've watched all of your Ren reactions now. PLEASE do MORE. You have a great understanding of him, and bring up so many great points. Seriously man. I want more from you on Ren. LOTS MORE
Always love your reaction mate, always give it the right amount of time and breakdown to which you’re always on point.
The onomatopoeia line has kept me confused since it came out on the album. My thought is maybe as after he says it he adds sound effects with his voice but not sure otherwise.
And he ends with the imposseble avcurate line, one sin for every day of the week... that's what I never thought about.... briljant!! Thnx for your reaction!❤
Great reaction!!
To me he has taken some creative license with onomatopoeia. Rather than a single word sounding like what it is/means, it is the song itself, as a whole, that is the sound of his pain, his despair, his rage. The song is what suffering sounds like.
If you haven't already, listen to "Masochist" to hear what his rage sounds like.
Sick being sickness and Sick being the dogs bollocks
I'm sure it's deeper than this, cuz Ren, but I like to think the onomatopoeia line was him wanting to put one in that point of the bar but couldn't come up with one so he just used the thing he wanted to come up with, if that makes sense. 😅
Lyme disease should be a standard part of differential diagnosis for people with chronic pain and/or mental health symptoms in Europe and the Americas. We almost lost Ren. He was tortured for years. How many have we lost already?
I tagged Eathan Baer in the Rabbit Hole fan club with your link. He should be able to help you .
Great job. I subscribed 😊
I've been waiting for a reactor to catch the deep rest/depressed lines. You're the first so far! Great reaction!
Ren is a master of painting a picture with words❤
There's lots of different types of ticks. I THINK you can only get Lyme's Disease from DEER ticks.
The onomatopoeia this is my thoughts on this part if it meant that the word sounds like whatever it is then it would be my guess the him speaking is the sound of a sick boi
🙌🙌🙌🙏Bravo Sir THANKYOU xx🙏🇬🇧💙🇺🇸
This song really is heartbreaking but I feel it was very cathartic for him to write it and release it. Its also a helluva way to start out an album 😂 it's amazing 💜💜 i wanted to add on, in his million subscribers defininf success video he mentions his sickness was so bad he couldnt "participate in life". So that about sums it all up😊
How long shall they kill our prophets
While we stand aside and look?
Some say it’s just a part of it
We’ve got to fulfill di book - Bob Marley (Redemption Song).
*Truth* ❤️🕯
onomatopoeia
- I think it’s the way he pronounced onomatopoeia- with an ahhhh at the end. The ahhhh is the sound you make when you visit a doctor and the look in your mouth…. Being at the doctor therefore implies you are sick. 🤔🤷♂️… maybe grasping straws but that came to my mind.
Thank you 🙏❤ Charlie ❤ for your 🐷 Ren - 🕖 Seven Sins reaction! #ren #sevensins #sickboialbum
Sick boy, snare/symbal and kick, little like beatboxing. Music. Just my interpretation.
Onamatopiea is usually like the 60s Batman when they fight "BAM" "OOF" "PUNCH" words in the cartoon bubble
You don't have to obscure Ren's videos. He has said he personally will never strike a reaction video.
It's not about getting a strike. All my videos are getting demonetised and blocked and I have kids to feed. I can't afford to spend 10 hours a day doing this for free unfortunately.
@@TheCharlieSmithChannel Fair enough.
@@TheCharlieSmithChannel A service for some of Ren's songs will claim copyright on reaction videos sometimes. If that happens with one of your videos, dispute it. Ren's team looks at the disputes and approves them. He really believes in the symbiotic relationship between musicians and reactors.
@67goat yeah so far all of my Ren reactions have been demonetised. I'll try disputing them tomorrow. Thanks
Dispute (not appeal) will get individual claims cleared, and Ren's team should whitelist you from there. You can also use the contact info on his YT About page to talk to them directly. Ethan and Connor are good people. they'll take care of you! @TheCharlieSmithChannel
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Metaper is sick boy and sick boi
Sorry spelling rubbish lok
Sick Boi…onomatopoeia likely suggests he is the sound of a very sick person. The name of sick boi describes his music and is inseparable from it. That is what I’ve decided it means….
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Worst pain I ever felt was finding out my son isn't mine.... My broken bones don't compare... 😂
Ticks convey a number of illnesses to humans. Having been bitten by a tick does not mean you will contract any of them though. Lyme disease is one of them, though others are more common. It is not known if ticks are the only way to spread lime disease to humans at the moment, but it is the only proven path. Other ways, other bugs, mosquitoes, all might also be a source in theory, yet none of those paths are known for certain.
You don’t have to flip, opaque or play around with Ren’s videos. He said “Feel free to press 'dispute claim' and it’ll all be approved and get rid of the copyright claim for you”.
Yeah up until now they've all been demonetised but they just started dropping them today which is good 😁
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Ren is awesome. Can't wait for his next album, ate the Sick Boi album too quick.
Onomatopoeia means wordmaking in Greek 🤔
I’ll help you onomatopoeia ahhhhh - pain
I'll help YOU. Ahh is an interjection, not onomatopoeia 😉
I’ll allow you the ahhhh is an interjection for pain, the double he did with onomatopoeiaaaa making the aaaaa the onomatopoeia, which can also be an interjection. But you do have a point I was just explaining the onomatopoeia. But what do I know hey 😉 😂
Sick boi..... can be cool dude or a boy who is actually ill....onamaterpea
That's a double entendre not onomatopoeia. Onomatopoeia is where the actual sound of the word sounds like the thing it's describing.like 'buzz' or 'meow'
Ren has been to hell and back.
In the rap idiom the word, " sick" is used as a description for great , as in "thats sick " meaning good . Ren is both a sick rapper and a sick person ,thus onamatopiea. Its the same onamatopiea as in Illest Of Our Time . Playing off the slang against the dictionary meaning .
That's a double entendre not onomatopoeia. Onomatopoeia is where the word sounds like the thing it's secribing. Such a 'buzz' or 'bang'
Because first of all its sick boy then was sick boi. Two parts of him sound the same.
I know what you're getting at but that's a double entendre, not onomatopoeia
Forensic. For- Ren- sic just brilliant!