Who Saw Officer John O'Keefe's Body? MA v Karen Read Day 11 Recap
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- Опубликовано: 13 май 2024
- Was it #KarenRead's SUV that witnesses spotted at the scene of the alleged murder? In the #KillerOrCoverUpMurderTrial party-goer, Julie Nagel, testified to seeing a "black blob" in the front yard when she was leaving the party.
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The defense is going to get her found guilty by using the ambush crap. I believe that the victim was drunken and disorderly and a fight ensured and they dragged him out of the home and left him to die..no ambush. Could the fight of happened outside ? Those defense wounds tell me that while the victim was in a brawl, the dog got excited and also attacked the victim.
yeah, i too think its overcorrecting to accuse premediated murder.
if i was arguing, id much prefer to reason, that this was just an accident and then they covered it up
So this again clearly shows a poor investigation with this statement about the "black blob" in the snow. The police didn't do their job and do a full investigation with interview statements, the correct address, photographs, securing the crime scene inside and outside the house since they ALL spent the evening together. You can't convict Karen Read on this, from what I see she's innocent due to lack of evidence and someone else did it based on the terrible police investigation done which makes it appear they tried to pin it on Karen.
@@marcot4863 As drunk and/or out of it as John must have been at that hour and given the sizes of the other two men and the fact that he was outnumbered John could have been disabled as easily as a twig by a two-by-four just pressing upon it. There would be no need to beat him up. I even think the wounds on his arm either happened earlier, were scratches made by part(s) of the curb, car, taillight, bumper or underside of car or quite possibly happened prior to that night The whole idea of a beating of any kind seems plainly ridiculous to me. The bulging eyes were explained by the skull fractures according to one medical person unrelated to this case. My adult son was once thrown from a bike and hit only his head on the curb; he ended up with bulging bruised eyes and his entire face black and blue; no kidding.
@@govindagovindaji4662 I believe it was a one to one fight and while they was fighting,the dog joined in and after the fight they either left him where he was found or the fight happened inside the house..how do I come up with this theory.. because twice in my life I've witnessed a fight where two men where fighting and while the man was on the floor, the man's dog joined in because of the excitement. Dogs are pack animals and will defend the pack leader in most circumstances.those injuries on the victims arms are definitely defence wounds where the victim is on the floor and being attacked by a dog. The ambush theory will get her found guilty. Two men drunk and full of testosterone.. fighting. Could reade accidentally ran him over after the fight ?. I strongly believe that reade didn't intensionally kill the victim. I would love to know what reade is like when she is drunk. The owner of the home ,when he was on the stand I detected deception, I strongly believe the fight was between the owner of the home vs victim .
I am not a police officer or a ETM but if all that’s going on in my front yard , I’m going outside and see what’s happening
You betcha! I know I would
ABSOLUTELY
They knew what was going on -- their daughter burst in and told them
@@valiakloeppel7252 well if that’s true , they still didn’t bother to come outside .
Correct they never left the house that day
So none of the sober ppl driving seen the “black blob” but the drunk person did? 😂
Makes no sense whatsoever.
Right?!
Yeah, and she knew it was six feet, that’s how tall John was .. about 6’2. I call BS!
Omg hahahahhaaa the way you worded that…I can’t…hahahha
Omg I laughed so hard my dogs are barking
Nick made a great point. She would've spoke out the NEXT DAY and said, "That's! What I saw".
Why do you think she has to "speak out" to anyone about a detail that isn't gonna bring the victim back? And she has no obligation to share what she saw with anyone.
Is everyone in Massachusetts really this stupid? Apparently, because you vote Democrat in every election.
Exactly that would've stuck out to her the next morning but it didn't cuz it didn't happen but I think this is woman is young enough to think the police n prosecution must be right so they either let themselves be convinced or memories guided or lie thinking they are just helping convict someone who is guilty anyways
My dog would have been going crazy with all that activity out front... even w no sirens going...
Agreed. And no mention of the dog being there when LE entered the house that morning. I can see why defence questioned the daughter about whether she took the dog with her when she left.
Waiting for the snowplow operator to testify
She backed up fast hit John. Stopped by the mailbox. Before she could flee, the truck pulled up. Read then pulled up to stop by the flagpole to block the view.
Waiting for Chloe to testify 😮
@@whartonitec1041this is a joke to showcase prosecutions absurdity, right?
I just don't get it. The video of Read backing up with snow flying, has her backing up toward a white fence, although when you see the 2 pictures of the home, no white fence is near the driveway and the driveway isn't wide enough to turn around as she did with a parked car near the white fence. Also, no tire tracks of another vehicle in the driveway as one witness claimed to be next to Read in the driveway? What gives?
Also, why isn't anyone pushing on the cell phone call that was made at 1:30 am about ' how long does it take for someone to freeze in the cold'?
@@charlenemyers188 I believe the video was her backing up from her house. She ran into the car parked in the driveway and the defense is claiming that the tail light got broken during that incident, not while hitting John. So essentially that video introduces reasonable doubt into the prosecution's story.
She is lying , because she never mentioned that to anyone until today
Exactly.
TRUE!!!
It doesn't make sense. If you had potentially important information regarding a death investigation, but you didn't tell anyone? Not buying it
@@houndmommya black blob did not indicate a human being at the time in the snow you simpleton. You don’t like a credible witness. Facts not fiction . Grow the f up!
Yep - she’s falling in line with the mob family
These people are lying their asses off to protect their friends. Most couldn’t remember any times. After all this time this girl comes out with this story & never told anyone, liar! My big question is why did they get rid of the dog & sell the house. Looks as tough John was attacked by a dog those marks on his arm is not from getting hit by a car. I’m not buying it!
She is lying about that because she had nine months to talk to people to get her story straight. I don’t buy her testimony at all.
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She's not sure she saw anything, just maybe a blob smh yikes 😮
@@yogabee2222 she said it clicked it was John the next day but didn't think to tell anyone 🤔
Me either & John the victim biggest mistake was ever meeting this deranged KR!
She’s lying???
The injuries on the victim's body are not consistent with being hit by a car.
and how do you know that?
Owner, experienced police officer, not even coming out of the house
The defense isn't saying it was a hit, they aren't claiming to know exactly what happened or how it happened, or that it was set up at the bar. They are simply saying that Karen didn't kill him, that his injuries are not injuries from a hit and run accident, that they look more like they are injuries from a beating or an ambush. I think they invited them over not to beat him up, or kill him, just to party, and that maybe Higgins did want to let him know about what happened with Karen and that it turned into a fight and got out of hand. Regardless of what happened I think most people have to agree that a hit and run makes no sense, his injuries are more consistent with a fight, and that there are far too many coincidences. To say that conspiracies and cover ups never happen, especially in families, law enforcement or small towns is insane. Another thing to remember is that the defense doesn't have the burden to prove Karen's innocence or prove what happened inside that house, only to create reasonable doubt which I think they are doing pretty good at proving, especially so far in the beginning of the state's case.
Think the same only I think Collin called him out they fought and he knocked him out, hit his head on a dumbbell on the basement floor. Panic time and they let him die on the floor. kicked everyone out the party then (both Bryans, ) moved him to the front through the bulkhead. Collin could not get a ride, Defense witness Beaty (friend) is who will testify when he called her for a ride she was asleep or never picked up, she was threatened to not say anything. Its insane how anyone can believe the hit in run narrative.
Well said!
Well said!!
She gave me the impression from the start not to be trusted,she was too in a hurry to say something with a nervous behavior,why didn't she point out to others in car something seems odd to here stop let's check it out,big lie big big lie that never happened and she has no one to back her big stupid story, make her take lie detector test
She brought beer never drank it but it was enough for me whaaaaat
I think it was a terrible accident, but no one wants to fess up to it ... The only person I feel sorry for is Officer John O'Keefe. RIP young man! 🌻
The prosecution's whole case is eliminating them as suspects, and all of their stories are falling apart.
I agree. I haven’t made my mind up who did it, but the one thing that seems for certain is it was an accident.
Julie Naigle not deceptive?🤣 So we're supposed to believe the drunk girl? Not me.
Omg she is such a liar lol this has become a joke. No one believes her. So only 1 drunk person saw the black blob but no one sober 👀👀
A blobbing liar 😮
fair enough if she thought nothing of it at the time but she herself says she put 2 and 2 together and then never tells anyone!!! Nope nope nope not buying it
Why would she lie and who cares if she is lying because this is not going to make a break the case.
@@user-nh5ew9ck4z also, others in the car at the same time said they did NOT hear her say that. OMG, so bumbling!!! And for what!>?
I'm a retired Law Enforcement Officer and none of this case, so far as shown any guilt of Karen Read. The only thing that the Prosecutor jas tried to establish is that no one of the witnesses could have done this horrific murder. She testified today that the first time that she said she viewed the "black blob" was 5 to 6 feet long black object. The first and only time she reports the "length" was admitted upon "her recollection with Lally, DA, hours before her testimony today. Hey Vinnie, drunk admitted partier, is Nagel's testimony, and I believe you need to rewind from before this case even went to trial with Attorney Melanie Little, who has followed this case from the beginning! Please do not be fooled. There was never a black blob, Officer John O'Keef was always seen in a blue and white sweatshirt, no jacket and white tennis shoes. Not a black pair of shoes, no puffy jacket...until JO'keefes body was discovered by EMS. She stated that she could still see parts of the yard as still having grass and pavement still visible. Remember, Brian Higgins was parked in front of the mailbox when supposedly Karen Read supposedly arriving, driving forward, never backing up, leaving John O'Keef to enter 34 Fairview Drive. Common sense screams incredigulity!!!
EXACTLY!!
Completely accurate
I honestly think the prosecution show how desperate they are if they called this witness , she may as well be saying she saw a black flying saucer in the sky.
No evidence , no real description , she didn't go over to see what it was.
I'm surprised the judge hasn't said to the jury that her "seeing a blob" can be ignored. It's completely ignorable testimony.
🎯 John's Attire that Night in a Grey/lite blue sweatshirt & no jacket, so Julie stating in court "Blob" or "Blob Shadow" being drunk as she stated leaving house is SUS. What I find interesting is that her Defiance Testimony on the stand made me feel an intuitive nudge of~" You feel so confident because of Big Daddy Brian Albert & other ties we may never know....Her Arrogance is telling as such on the stand. Just my thoughts only.
And where was an ounce of remorse "I wish everyday that I had made them pull over" nothing but defensiveness
Just a thought but the amount of people drinking and driving could of been any 1 of them
Thank you! Finally, we got some "walking around sense" being spouted :)
I find the judge very frustrating.
So do I. Shes the most biased judge I think I've Ever Seen!!
This Judge should have recused herself! She is way too biased for my liking.
@@russianaloha4576
ME TOO!
Yeah bigtime, the corruption runs deep in Can’t On.
Same here ..... The word around is that the Alberts family is known to the judge they call her Aunt Bev
Unbelievable, not once did she ever say that.
Yeah the same witness who also testified that she doesn't recall ever being in JJ's house and then we find out she babysat and dog sat for them and clearly was in their house. Not a credible witness whatsoever, something's not right with this witness, she lies under oath and should be charged with perjury as soon as the system allows, I hope the jury is listening..
Too many times in this case, those present on the relevant night, have lied under oath while trying to pretend that they did not understand questions put to them to get to the truth. Do innocent people testify like this? Noooooooo!!
How was there snow underneath John's body, if he was supposedly killed BEFORE snow accumulation on the lawn??? 🔥🔥👀👀🚩🚩
Check the bar footage when they all left and then tell me there was no snow on the ground, or the cars covered in snow you numpty! Bog orf! 🤡
100% I feel like I've been shouting this at TV into an abyss!
Right they used a blower 🤷 had to be after the snow fall
Why did Colin Albert need a lawyer previously? I bet that little punk is always in trouble.
Agreed. Why are they trying so hard to cover for him? 🤔
@@jennifervigeant6352 Sort of family that protect one another or he has info about the Albert’s that they don’t want let out and he’s the kind to run his mouth?
@maximoo79 John O'Keefe reported Chris Albert's son Colin for dealing drugs which led to his arrest- MOTIVE‼️Jen McCabe Brian Albert's sis in law googled " How long to die in cold" at 2:37 am‼️Autopsy shows John was beaten to death & dog bites‼️ Proctor texted his friend's how they won't investigate them‼️Judges brother defended Albert & they call her "Aunt Bev"‼️ Cop Cover Up
@@jennifervigeant6352 John O'Keefe reported Chris Albert's son Colin for dealing drugs which led to his arrest- MOTIVE‼️Jen McCabe Brian Albert's sis in law googled " How long to die in cold" at 2:37 am‼️Autopsy shows John was beaten to death & dog bites‼️ Proctor texted his friend's how they won't investigate them‼️Judges brother defended Albert & they call her "Aunt Bev"‼️ Cop Cover Up
@@jennifervigeant6352 They better put him on the stand, otherwise I'm out cuz. certified circus.
Caitlin Albert’s boyfriend sounds like a real intellect 😂😂
😂😂😂 thought the same!! Weird match!
😂😂😂😂
He's a wannabe thug. He was caught on video harassing turtle boy
😂😂😂
😂😂
Not guilty she definitely didn't do this.
Thank God Karen Read has good attorneys and doesn't have to rely on public defenders⚖️🙏
I know! She'd be in serious trouble with this corrupt mob
In my State public defenders do not take on capital crimes
@@frankh.3849 how does it work? If you have no money for your own lawyers does the court appoint any defence at all or are capitol crimes dealt with out of state? Please excuse my ignorance, I'm in the UK and our legal system is very different.
realize though; this happens literally every day to predominately minority men who certainly dont have millions for Jackson or TB online support
our justice system is anything but and needs reformed just as much as cops do
@@itsjust_Lisasadly and simply, yes, if you have no money, you are much more likely to be found guilty
Did Vinnie say explosive testimony for the prosecutor? Hardly. She’d been at that house for hours drinking and you’re telling me she’s the only one who saw “the blob”?
Its explosive because points toward the level of lies being told and because it is new information that no-one mentioned previously.
We knew she “Karen” was at the scene. Seeing her SUV earlier actually helps her case. John wasn’t in snow for 6 hrs.
right? he would have been frozen solid but he was still (barely?) alive at the time.
@@user-oj4lx3sy5g
Who said he was barely alive.
Only Karen, Kerrie. and First Responders did CPR. I do not recall any statements saying he was barely alive or dead.
@@LaniLanilei thats why I put a question mark with it, it wasnt a statement. Reading comprehension? That said, first responders are not doing CPR on someone that is a popsicle, and why would there be vomit and fresh blood on her and first responders if he is indeed a popsicle? These are questions not statements. Im waiting for evidence proving Karens guilt, so far all I have seen is the prosecution defending their witnesses, and there is a lot of shennanigans going on with the evidence makes it hard to trust all of it, especially the blood and forensic evidence that was poorly collected. No witnesses, its so far circumstantial and I say "so far" for a reason.
@@user-oj4lx3sy5g
I'm confused. Was John barely alive when Karen, Kerrie, and First Responders did CPR on John? I do not know the answer to this.
Another thing, Karen said she was the only one who tried to save John's life. Isn't it true that Kerrie, and First Responders also did CPR on John? Karen weren't the only one. Why did she lie? When people lie I become suspicious,
Karen is the problem, IMO. She is telling us what we want to hear. Pointing in another direction, saying things like, "WE know who did it". Who are the “WE” she is speaking off? Identify please?
Wow. Does her attorneys have the evidence to make such a claim, of course not. Karen is advised to plant doubt in the minds of the people, her only defense, is Reasonable Doubt. She has no defense otherwise, but, maybe murder of passion?
I do not recall any reports stating that John was barely alive or dead while CPR was administered.
I'm not sure if there were photos of the vomit and blood on Karen. I would think there would be. It should be in the police report. But I understand that the police reports weren't thorough. It is a conundrum.
I think the police is helping Karen. That's their only crime. It's working too. I hate to say.
Who said John was not in the snow for 6 hours?
No one knows John's whereabouts after Karen dropped him off around or between 12:15 A.M. and 12:30 A.M. Karen did not stick around to see if John made it to the door and entered.
So, who can know how long John was laying in the snow.
What time did the alleged "throwing John out of the Alberts home" happen?
How convenient. One witness to a black SUV and a dark blob. She’s the only one looking out the window 2x and happens to witness the state’s evidence. No sale!
Maybe she saw a blob is ridiculous
Wait. Her brother is on defense witnesses list and they no longer live together? Very suss imo
Vinnie, not sure if you’re just trying to be dramatic for ratings, but I struggle to see how you can think Julie Nagle’s “black blob” testimony is so impactful. She admitted she was drunk. She couldn’t even remember if she brought her own beer to the house that night! Furthermore, she admitted in cross that she is quite tight auntie JJ… the same woman who asked Julie for a screenshot of her text exchange with Ryan. Julie also dramatically embellished her version of what she saw that night over and above what she originally said in her “interview” with Proctor 8 months after the fact. Her testimony is about as worthless as it comes.
maybe her testimony is as “worthless as it comes”, but the prosecution brought it to the trial. it’s going to be scrutinized & the inconsistencies are going to be highlighted (mostly because i think she’s a liar at this point)
I HOPE he’s being sarcastic….i haven’t watched it all yet…..
Julie McCabe is as suspect as they come. She googled how long to die in the snow, she asks for a screenshot of another witnesses text, she’s involved in every scene in this case…something isn’t right.
He is an actor on a show . Nothing more .
Blobbing liar
These ppl give new meaning to the word “Massholes”.
Lol. Tremendous
That’s not helpful.
Agreed.
100% 😂
Canton is a giant masshole town. More class as you get closer to the ocean.
i find it suspicious that a highly drunk person could remember the times and the directions the suv pulled up.
Julie, why didn’t you call the police/ambulance if you did saw something???? Just imagine, your action could have saved him. Is it because, you’re making it up?
Not gonna lie, Tristan's "high Maintenance" crack was pretty hilarious....caught everyone off guard. So far I see no burden of proof from the prosecution....gonna be pretty tough to get a jury to convict 2nd degree murder
Funniest part is he was DEAD SERIOUS... No pun intended. Why he hasn't proposed in 8 years. I smell a break up but he looks scared to dump her, he don't wanna end up like O'KEEFE. HE'S TOO GOOD FOR HER... He got dragged into this murderous families spooky shenanigans.
Wow!!
@@ms.g-j8524 You are 1000% correct!!! You read that whole play like a pro ... and I am a degreed but non-practicing Psych./Soc. and this whole case has been a study in human behaviour ... so a field day for me!
@@ms.g-j8524 It is also possible this is not the only dead body to show up on their watch!
The family is thick as thieves!!!
I do not believe (for a Boston minute) that this girls testimony is honest and truthful.
She never said anything prior to today, that moment.
I believe that the prosecution needs to have someone say "I saw him right after midnight"
I absolutely think she is just another liar coming out of that house.
Another liar 🤥
Blobbing liar
I would think the snow plow driver operating Frankenstein would notice the “black blob” on the white snow
Not necessarily
Have you ever been in a New England snow storm? The snow covers everything very quickly.
@@cplcw84 yes I have and it only snowed a couple inches by that point and it was extremely windy - also snow doesn’t accumulate quickly on a warm body.
@@MrMustangrick he absolutely would see a large black blob on the snow next to the road
I've lived in the northeast my whole life and a few inches is enough to cover anything. Heat from the body? That's a silly argument. Plus, who exactly would have been on the lookout for a body in the snow? Do you check for bodies in the snow at 3am at your house? Just because you want something to be true, doesn't mean it is. Follow the facts, not your feelings.
They were all drunk.
Is this really a win for the prosecution? The drunk girl sees a black blob but the sober driver didn’t? So many questions go unanswered in this case.
And when KR rang McCabe in the morning she didn't put "2 and 2" together and immediately tell the police?? Make it make sense?
Tristan was lying today also, he was told to say that. It is so obvious.
Say what exactly?
If he was lying, he would have answered every question to further a "frame job."
I think he was truthful when he said that it wasn’t planned for him to go pick up his girlfriend from 34 Fairview. Contradicts what his girl said. The McAlberts won’t be happy with that I’m sure.
I've never been so anxious to hear the coroner take the stand ever, following any case.
I can't wait for GPS data from phones... data is incredibly accurate.
The Coroner work for the Massachusetts State Police not independent Morrissey probably told him what too write
When is this?
Only coroner ever to "spontaneously" conclude "these injuries are not consistent with a fight" and deep gouges are from "blunt force trauma" and boxer's fractures are consistent with a low speed pedestrian vs vehicle crash. I think this is madness! So much reasonable doubt it's not even like KR is on trial. It's the CW defending the Alberts and McCabes. Loony Toons!
@@cmcdonaldmacri Why are we so far into this case without this most important info.
Lies lies everywhere there’s lies!!
So the only witness to something on the lawn is an intoxicated person? I have no dog on this hunt, but this is weak.
And she just saw a blob lol. Not even saying she saw a body.
Worse yet she did not see it until. The defense’s motion to get all the phones in that car. It’s when yanetti said everyone left and no-one saw anything . Days later when Procter called her in for the interview. Never told anyone else before that though. Sounds like the phone upgrade😂😂
And the one with the worst view from the car
@@user-nh5ew9ck4z I think it is something someone might easily comment on. It doesn't mean that she did comment on it.
i respect your neutrality.
i dont believe anyone saying Read is guilty actually believes it. they all cant be that willfully ignorant
I can't believe there are no photos of John's body. We don't even know exactly what part of the lawn he was on
Vinnie, why don’t you EVER mention in news report that today was first Juliana Nagel ever mentioned the size. You’d think she’d have wanted this information before. I find her testimony & body language totally incredible. It also doesn’t speak to who or what left said black blob in that part of the grass.
He is an actor on a show . Not a journalist. Court TV is for entertainment purposes only and opinion !
@@NotYourBizz yep… and to get people like me so frustrated that I comment which drives traffic, more comments & better revenue for them. Ugh
You comment just raised a new question in my mind ... based on the amateurish nature of this "crime", is it possible that the younger people are responsible and the parents helped cover it up, thereby rendering everyone involved/culpable?
The jury doesnt need to figure out what happened. They need to decide if CW proved her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.
Who else doesn't trust vinnie?
This man has made some of the most outlandish statements!!
I now have removed myself from Vinnie, lost all hope in him being a true warrior for justice! I tried, but he has totally blown it, clicks and now hi😢s own monetary backed youtube channel. Sorry to say, I am so sorry and disappointed that this is what some journalists and media are about now and days 😮
@@Southernimplant I lost all respect for him the second he started opening his mouth and let his distorted feelings/opinions be heard
Bye. Vinnie doesn't care 😂 you're not a loss
@@pixsiedoll2341 jen mccabe, don't ever comment on my posts ok?
He is a PAID actor ! Not a journalist. Commenter for opinion only. Court TV is licensed for Entertainment purposes. FYI so is every news channel you watch! Why they are called mockingbird media ! Not to be trusted!
Her blink rate was so fast when she was explaining the ‘blob’. I don’t buy it
Supposedly, John was dropped off around 12:20 a.m. How could all these people leave, Brian Higgins parked at the mailbox, no one saw any body at anytime!!!
This was the 6th largest recorded blizzard in Boston history.
Well, the snowstorm did not start to get even rough until after 4 a.m. the 29th of 2022. I personally know 😅. And even one witness, at 1:45 a.m. , stated when she was one of the last to leave with 3 other people, she could still see parts of grass and pavement. If Karen was supposed to back over Officer O'Keefe at approximately 12:25 a.m. in the morning, how is it that NO ONE saw a body in a very well lit, light snow on the ground .? Brian Higgins was parked in front of the mailbox. He would have been the very first person to see the body!!! Common sense. Did you live there, near there during the snowstorm of 2022 that you are referring to?
Besides, if believe it was such a big snowstorm, why would Dunkin Donuts be open and his Auntie bring Brian Jr.s traditional birthday donuts, card oh and later, coffee and leave them in his car???? When testified earlier, tradition to leave them in the house for when he woke up the morning of his birthday. People, use some common sense!!!!!
@@Southernimplant Firstly, effing Brian is far too old to still be at home, much less his "Auntie" bringing birthday donuts so I call BS unless they are all weirder than we think. Secondly, she was bringing over donuts to discuss the night's events because she already knew. His birthday was a mere coincidence, but I notice this weirdo bunch of people mentioning birthdays far too often as a soft point to throw off the evil truth!
@@hardwired8084 you people are freaks
Hit theory is ridiculous
What about the prosecutions theory that Karen floored the SUV in REVERSE at 24mph for 60 feet in a snowstorm to hit and kill John, and no one noticed that??
if she did I bet the cops ring camera from across the street was "working" and the library's camera wouldn't be missing 2 minutes and the sally port missing footage would all still be there. lol
@@Daysfreak57332 Missing footage only happens when the actual footage yields a truth you do not want!
This is an unbelievable witness....... She did not say anything after she new jo died...quote..... She put Put two and two together!!! She said nothing to law enforcement Not the next day or two days even a month after. Wth
A hit, more than likely an argument, turned fight that went wrong.
Well what did she think it was ? A tree ?
Lmfao. Has NEVWR SAID THIS TO ANYONE BEFORE TODAY! Anyone who believes ANY SINGLE person on the stand, hey come to my place, I have a good deal for ya.
I thought Mrs Albert said REPEATEDLY that she was walking around cleaning Not Sitting! So many mess ups.
cleaning what is the question?
She is the perfect witness to claim she saw something! She isn't one of them! She's lying!
I’m so thankful for y’all to do these videos for us because I haven’t been able to sit & listen to this trial as much as I would like to but it’s going entirely too slow in the court room. I believe that Karen is innocent
It's amazing how selective these peoples memories are 🤔
Horrible what cops are doing to Karen Read.
In the snow- a human sized, dark blob would at least cause me to yell stop, and get closer. I don’t know how cold it is there, but I went to college in a snowy area, and it’s ten times more important to make sure none of your friends (or strangers, for that matter) pass out, outside. A literal matter of life or death in cold climates. If this weren’t compounding with EVERYTHING ELSE, I might not be overthinking it to this point, but as it were….
I mean, this seems to be pretty central to their case, and in that light- pretty weak sauce. If she was too drunk to make anything of it, then how is it credible enough to be used here? Just doesn’t do what they’re trying to make it do for me. (NOTE: I’m by no means implying she’s at fault in any way, I’m just saying it presents credibility issues in context of a MURDER trial. These are exactly the types of things jurors will be thinking about, and discussing when the time comes.)
There weren't any unaccounted for people in or out of the house. Why would she think it was any of those people.
@@tigerlilygirl2643 Which is why I qualified that, even a passed out stranger would be cause for further examination. It happens all the time, and results in senseless deaths. I don’t know what else a 6 foot blob, that she didn’t see beforehand, would be- especially in the context of it being presented as prosecutorial evidence in a murder case. I’m not claiming she’s somehow at fault, by any means. What I am saying, is that if this is your star witness, I think your case has major holes. If you’re too drunk/it’s too dark to know it’s a human at the time, than how are you saying 8 months after the fact that it was JO in retrospect?
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What ya talking about? According to testimony it could have been Colin or one of the girls who left earlier, she lyin for her good friend auntie JJ
That blob witness is not credible at all.
Lol the "blob witness"🤣🤣🤣. But yes, I agree. She got her story "straight" before testifying.
Old blobby was making it all up
Blobbing liar and a drunk 😮
She is the blob.
If their snow on the grass and a car lights are on the snow is bright so if their was a body you will notice it.
and now that I see the pics. of the house, the land outside is flat, if undulating, I could understand, but not flat like that.
Incredibly important to the timeline yet she just remembered today 😂. And McCabe didn't put "2and 2 together when KR rang to find Officer O'Keffe in the morning. Sooooo much BS. A sad day for the family hearing this is how their son was treated and not even called an fallen Officer in a murder trial?
Hey Vinnie "the copblower" Politian! Enough with your beloved witness Nagel. the white blob! Why you invite Colin Albert's lawyer every day?
@1e2b9 getting paid off
NOT GUILTY!!
All LIARS
Oh my God!! Seriously???! I grew up in the 70s and there was a horror movie called The Blob.......could this have been it????? WTF with the testimonies of this clan .
I think she wants to become a closer member of the Albert family. Maybe she's had a crush on Brian Jr. for years.
Were we watching the same case?
She didnt say she saw the black SUV and then saw the blob. No, she saw the SUV through the window. Later she went out the front door and did not see the object or the suv. Then she was in her vehicle and, for the first time, saw the blob
Someone had dumped the body at that point
@Thomas-sx6mc But then they see it from the street, through the falling snow? And don't actually say that to any cops until months later?
@Thomas-sx6mcFunny how nobody saw a body from the windows, but they saw tire tracks.... 😂😂😂
How dare the guest say he didn't see anything deceptive? Anyone who could say that after listening to Crazy Julie's testimony is not to be trusted himself, I wouldn't invite this lousy nontruth seeking guest, back to the show, he's just taking up space, Court TV.
"A blow to the defense" ?? There was no blow to the defense, that I've seen since this clown town of a prosecution started. Not one..
I agree.
That she sow a six feet blob does not mean anything, they beat him up and then trough him out. Karen is innocent!
This lady is lying!
Heavy snow but none atop of the black blob!
That alone points to the WHENs of this case, when was he actually hit, when did each person leave, potentially hitting him, when did the snow fall, when was he actually placed there, when did he die? etc. etc.
They are all lying. They are sort out there stories with each other to set up Karen.
lol
@@enzoinfinity1 Lol? Just curious, what do you find amusing?
she's the only one who ADMITS to seeing anything. hmmmm
Convenient to call it a “black
blob”-because she can’t say she saw a body and didn’t call for help. I believe that’s 100% made up.
Just to make the jury believe John was there..when he actually wasn’t. The evidence does not point to John being hit by a car.
More witnesses will come forward dribbling this now I feel. Coming days in the trial will be big I feel.
If I drove down an unlit road at 50mph and there was a body laying on the side of that road I 99 percent sure I would notice it.
Too many lies in this trial.
Vinny, c'mon man. You don't believe she saw a "black blob" and didn't say anything to anyone when she heard a man died in that exact spot? If that's the case she's more disrespectful to OJOs family than anyone else for not reporting it
She didn’t know that black blob in the snow was a human when passing by until she found out after what occurred to John dummy. That’s why she didn’t mention it. Jen heard Karen say many times “I hit him, I hit him, I hit him” When discussing it at a later time, she must have told them she saw an SUV, and `Jen said what time did your brother show up and when you saw the SUV. No big secret after a fatal event of a neighbour/friend. No conspiracy x 15 people 🤡 I’d try to work out the events with a text timeline if that ever happened on my watch, or amongst family n friends. Move on nothing burger 🫨
He is presenting a RUclips channel. He is suppose to stir things up and maje it dramatic. 😀
What type of relationship did Julie Nagle have with Brian Jr in Jan 2021? Has it evolved? 8 hrs of drinking together?
Was Collin drinkingl?? Wasn't he only 17 ?
Vinnie started out seemingly pro prosecution but I think after hearing their case (or lack of) he is now seeing the holes and discrepancies and flat out lies by the prosecution witnesses
That girl is lying.. I don't believe a word she says
Oh the obvious lies !!! These witnesses Deserve Consequences as much as the real killer !! Cough cough where’s Collin ?
I think she had some mushroom soup at the party? 😆
Soup doesn't go well with booze. It had to be shroom chips
Only thing people seem to remember is that they never looked at the lawn. Wtf remembers that?
How could you not mention seeing a blob after hearing that someone is dead? No way . How would you keep quiet, nothing for months? It's a day you wouldn't forget, even if your memory is different from others, but honestly, you would say something. Unless you didn't see anything. I don't know what happened that night but listening to the testimony 😌 it's really not good for the prosecution so far. But I'm still waiting for more proof, but do I believe she had seen a blob and no mention? No, I call BS 🫤but what do I know 🤔
Tristin Morris stated he was driving carefully and cautious but didn't see a "black blob" in the front yard? But Julie Nagel who had been drinking all night and conversing with Jenn McCabe about PB& J did? GTFOH
She was so drunk she can't remember a lot but remembers the big black blop and a loaf of bread
Has ANYONE whose taken the stand so far told the truth at All???!!!??? Ive never seen such a liar like this blob on the stand today!
She's definitely the big blob!
She seems really cocky little nervous about way she answers questions
I didn't see nuttin and nuttin didn't see me....🤨
She is lying. I don’t believe her at all
…liar
I wouldn't either except for one piece of evidence. That, "how long does it take to die in the snow" google search done by jen mccabe hours before they discovered John.
Why aren’t you talking about the star witness being drunk?
News Flash, they were all drunk or intoxicated.
I can't believe you are actually buying what the Prosecutor is trying to lay down! Please Vinnie, please do research and not try to get clicks! There is an electrical box right in front of the flagpole, where JN said she first saw a black blob. Then today she states hours before her testimony stated today, that now she said it was a black oject, 5to6 ft. Btw, none of any of the Alberts, McCabes, friends that were there ever identified the SUV was Karen Reads vehicle. Both Sara and Julie probably don't know what happened that night. But there is no way, from drinking from 8 pm until almost 1:30a.m. Sara and Julie were sober! Even Julie Nagle admitted she was drunk and happy to join making peanut and butter sandwiches with Jen Mccabe and Sara! Karen Read is innocent. The Judge is bias, to the point of clearly unfair. She even helps the DA and says, "Mr.
Lally would you like to object to that"? The crime didn't have to take place in front of anyone, the basement was redone, the dog rehomed, the family home of generations was sold, The crime scene was never secured properly or investigated properly. When I was a Police Officer, if a fatality especially was discovered, we obviously first investigated the closest location of the crime. Which, being the front yard, feet in front of the front door, was the Alberts' home! NEVER DID ANY INVESTIGATORS, if you want to call them, do any investigation of the home. All witnesses have so far, have different stories and different timelines. Ask Auntie Bev, the Judge that will not allow a reason for an Objection, stated before the trial began! Cuts the Defense off, whenever she feels like it, has sustained over 69% of the PA's objections, and only 38% of the Defense Objections. Only breaks when Defense is on cross, and tells Defense, no more questions. This is such a travesty of justice, but I don't lose heart because I know the FBI is watching, just like the rest of the entire world! Then, like one DEA agent has spoken clearly his most educated opinion, which creates way more credible than click seekers, makes more sense than uneducated properly trained law enforcement officers! Witness statements never taken, individually, written, signed recorded, etc. Some of the witnesses weren't even interviewed until 18 months later. Some not even until hours before their testimony in this trial, to be "coached". There are way too many red flags and even people that live in Canton Mass. that fear the Alberts. Btw, you do know that the FBI are and have been investigating the "investigators and the Prosecutor , Michael Morrisy, and his office", right!!!??? Please start from the beginning and get the true facts before you try to get clicks from a very possible innocent person facing her life in prison 😢 Suggestion, put your Big boy pants on ", put away your desire for fame, try to get justice and follow the bread crumbs from the very beginning! Watch Melanie Little, Uncivil Law, Duty Ron, researched by the BEST! I'm very disappointed with you Vinnie, I followed you and gave to your own Channel when you branched out on your own.
John O'Keefe reported Chris Albert's son Colin for dealing drugs which led to his arrest- MOTIVE‼️Jen McCabe Brian Albert's sis in law googled " How long to die in cold" at 2:37 am‼️Autopsy shows John was beaten to death & dog bites‼️ Proctor texted his friend's how they won't investigate them‼️Judges brother defended Albert & they call her "Aunt Bev"‼️ Cop Cover Up
The dog marks on his arm
But yet she (the ⭐️witness) is the one who can't remember if she brought her own beer to the birthday party 🤔
I hope after this trial and Karen is found innocent, the O'Keefe family sue the Albert's for every penny they have to take care of those two kids. There are an awful lot of conspirators who will be facing prison soon. I hope they all remember that. Just disgusting
No, they won't because there is the burden of proof and it cannot be proven that they are guilty! Otherwise they would be the defendants and not KR. Further in a case where there are a mob of co-conspirators, the truth is usually difficult!!
@@hardwired8084 well at least the world is watching and we are all seeing what's going on here. It's so obvious. They are all going to have to live with their disgraceful behaviours. Let's see how easy their lives are going to be after this. Karen read is innocent and I'm 100% sure of that
O'Keefe could have been hit by Nagel's party. He could have been hit by Higgins, who was parked in front of the letter box at some point. Suddenly, Higgins' car vanished in thin air???
Why would John's body be there if Karen hit him. It would make sense that she dropped him off on their driveway. I have never dropped someone off far away from a driveway.
This case is so crazy.
Black blob? She is lying 🤷
Arent there a time of death?
Or injuries to prove it was a car?
There must be some hard evidence, you cant convict someone with these "evidence" ..
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@@user-nh5ew9ck4z and the ME! Her cross will be very interesting
To pull out of the driveway and drive past the house… headlights light up that small yard. Enough with the “it was dark it was snowing” excuse… oh I was looking at my feet as I walked out blah blah. Do these people think the jury is stupid? This clown “investigation” and sham trial is an utter disgrace. John deserves better. Karen is 100% factually innocent.
Think about it. Let's say the Albert's are 100% innocent as was everyone in the house that night.
That means their friend just died on their front lawn.
What do you immediately do?
That's right, you ask all your family and friends if they saw anything when they left the property.
That MUST have happened if they are innocent. 100%.
Julie said on the stand nobody asked her that question until yesterday.
What absolute nonsense.
Are we also expected to believe she knew she saw something and didn't come forward with that for 28 months.
For the love of God people.
This trial needs stopped. NOW.