@@sarasmilesco8551 I wonder why so many butt call from more than 1 witnesses in one night ? And unexplainable search history. It might be the electromagnetic that night was so strong , these phone went cray cray ....
Apparently the neighbor's(also a police officer) cctv is missing 42 mins right at the time JO was apparently 'being hit' by Kare is missing. How convenient.
@@Sistersister83 doesn’t make any sense … they were buried under snow and let’s remember Karen’s car wasn’t even in the sallyport when the tail light pieces was found by sert .. impossible to plant under the snow
My question is still why would John be behind the car when he should have been walking toward the house. And the wounds on his arm do n9t look like a car hit.
Because her black box of her lexus will show she backed it up and turned off the safety feature at the same time . Very suspicious as well as deleting all the ring cameras at John’s house .. and all the crazy texts and voicemails she left John on his phone . She is guilty guilty guilty and has managed to fool a lot of people !!!
Because he was not killed by a car and the bodily injuries do not match at all. It is impossible it's factually impossible. It's not only that Karen is innocent, it's that no car killed John. The FBI has already confirmed this. It defies logic, physics, and common sense for 6,000 lb of metal moving with inertia would not cause gross bodily injuries and would simply punch him in the face and hit him on the back of the head as well as attack his arm. So strange that her tail light was broken and custody and video of her car impounded went missing. But that's besides the point, nobody hit John with a car, not karen, not somebody else, it's factually impossible that he was hit by a car. The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
Police corruption affects everyone. Regardless of how anyone feels about Karen and her supporters, they should be against abuse of power by public servants. It’s unacceptable.
As someone who has sat on a jury before, and talked with 11 other people, and how they see or took in information. I can tell you at this point in this trial. We are just over halfway through the prosecution's witnesses. There is already so much reasonable doubt. Even if they think Karen hit him. Nobody on that jury believes it was intentional. There's probably a few who think she was grossly overcharged. There might even be a few believe this is a cover-up. But not one of them believes that this was her pissed off, backed up 60 ft at 24 mi an hour, hit him and did that damage. By the time they're through with all their experts some of these people will go back and forth. After the defense gets up there. It's going to be all over. This trial is either going to end with acquitting Karen or hung jury. I can't see a possible conviction in this. There are so many red flags and so much reasonable doubt. It's damn near impossible to get 12 people to agree what they're going to have for lunch. What we've seen so far you're not going to get 12 people to agree, yes she did this on purpose.
Me: Ah yes, forensics, they have pieces of the broken taillight from the Lexus, they must have tested it in a Gas Chromatograph Mass Spectrometer to see if it was an exact match. Forensic Lady: N O T H I N G S P E C I F I C ! ! !
@@coleengogerty3852Her taillight pieces are at the crime scene before her car was even at the port. So that throws the coverup out the window. She’s guilty. Things stick to frozen surfaces. Karen is a nut job that’s thrown a city into turmoil because of her selfishness and her narcissistic ways. She will get karma some way or another
The most despicable thing what ever you believe, is those people outside the court booing his parents. What the hell did those poor people do to be treated like that 😡
I’ve heard nothing about that , that would be despicable, but not as despicable as police abusing their power to kill and then frame a woman and manipulate a system. It wasn’t good enough to just not have evidence to prove what happened and never bring charges, no these cops wanted a trial that would exonerate them in the public eye, forget what it cost Karen, forget what it cost the tax payer. They always knew they could not get a conviction no matter what with that kind of chain of custody and evidence collection it would have be won on appeal. The objective was to have the Albertsons seemingly exonerated all the while running a clear PR campaign against Karen. Imagine having the power to force a D.A. To go on tv and lie for you !
@@darcymoon2109 yes it did and it’s on videos .. and they have been harassed for two years because they know karen hit their son .. it’s an absolute disgrace !!
How do they explain the fact he would have been hit in the road and landed on the lawn , and magically the whole tail light also landed on the lawn ?? HOW ? I'm sorry but even the evidence doesn't match the way the SUV would have had to strike John , the pieces of light would have fallen in the road. None of the crash evidence makes sense to how it would have played out. Listen to that sound of the engine ,,everyone would have heard it reversing to 24mph. NOT GUILTY
If I was on that jury and I found out that the live tape of her Lexus was missing .over a hour of time that it was suppose to be under surveillance and then they announce the broken taillight. I would not believe them. They should be held to a very high standard and this is the death of a fellow officer. Way too many mistakes that in my mind add up to at this point things done on purpose.
Since so many on the FKR bandwagon like to speculate about everything I’m going to speculate about that hair. there was likely far more hair on that car and it DID fall off, blow away, during the drive/storm because it was more superficially attached…but that 1 hair was still attached due to being stuck in a crevice or attached to dirt on car or by snow that had become like ice on her car and during the drive through storm it would have stayed in position as it was attached strongly enough. It’s also perfectly reasonable to conclude at some point the hair -as it was sitting in Sally port and forensics had started working (or before they started working) the melting ice turning to water could’ve made that hair slide down a bit. We’ve all seen something (a piece of hair, lint, a bug etc) caught in drips of water, on an object like a Car, a window, etc, and the hair, lint, bug, is fully attached & clinging to the object…side of car or window. To pretend otherwise is just disingenuous
As to the damage to JO’s upper right arm described by medical professionals as abrasions (not scratches), the smaller ones are not dog bites because there was no damage under his arm and they are scattered and far apart. Therefore, if it was a dog, it was a dog with only one top tooth and no bottom teeth.
@@Kat-hn3ki I’m not not talking about the alleged scratches (actually deemed abrasions by medical professionals), I’m talking about the smaller abrasions allegedly being dog bites, which they cannot be, or it is at least highly improbable unless it’s was a dog with only one top tooth and no bottom teeth.
Where is the missing dog? maybe that dog is also missing teeth. Missing dog, butt dials, deleted phone searches, missing videos at specific times, come on. That's just a lot of controlled missing data/evidence.
That has not been said by anyone. What HAS been said is the collection of the evidence was flawed (putting it very mildly). Once sloppily collected evidence is submitted to the lab the results the lab comes up with are suspect at best and completely worthless at worst.
Your statement implies that “conspirators” are just now coming up with a “they were planted” excuse for this evidence. People have been saying these items were planted for literally years at this point. It’s not some new or growing conspiracy theory. It is part and parcel of the theory many of us have had all along.
Everyone at the Waterfall said John and Karen were happy together that night. There is no proof that Karen was jealous of John. Just because she might have or might not have witnessed John a month before possibly kissing a girl does not mean a month later she planned to kill him especially in front of so many cops. It doesn't make sense. Plus what else doesn't make sense is Jen M, her husband and whoever else saying that at a party at the Alberts after the Waterfall, they on several occasions looked out the window at separate times to see Karen's car. Who does that? While all admitted to having many many drinks.
@florencehaber9847 who looks out their windows 2 see if friends [who'd confirmed they'd be at your get-together] had arrived yet, b/c u couldn't quite figure out where they might be, & the texts u sent them weren't being returned? 'who does that?' no 1. absolutely no 1. 🙄
The guests on this show are misstating facts. The SERT team leader explicitly testified that John's sneaker and the pieces of glass and taillight were recovered underneath undisturbed snow, in an area north of the area where John's body was found. The Canton police searched the immediate area where the body was found, and they never used shovels. The fact that the snow was undisturbed in all areas, except the middle of the road where the plow drove through, completely destroys the defense theory that the evidence was planted.
If it was planted, they could've shoveled snow on top of it, had brian come thru w/ his plow, or it could've been snowing at the time it was planted...
The chain of custody is nonexistent. They should have found this “evidence” that night or the next day. The site should have been sealed off. The investigators have no credibility.
I forgot that a woman is on trial for murder. I've been too focused on the prosecutions witnesses. They are seem lying, shady ass people that are hiding something.
That hair is on top of dried water marks. Holes in hoodie but is scratches on John's arm. Hmmm. Sorry I have doubt Karen hit him. I think the defense has proved reasonable doubt at this point..
I saw a forensic file where a congressman hit a man in his bike. The congressman traded in the suv, and got a new car. After being through a complete owner change and complete clean. They were able to get a hair from the rear view mirror and a Jean Fibre from the wheel well over a year after the incident.
Scratches on the arm contained no dog DNA, as testified to. But there were shards of a glass stien found. You know what makes slices like that? Broken glass
@@mauiswift6391 yeah but still dosent explain how the glass stayed there they whole time after she drove home in a hurricane etc... I just feel like all of the evidence is so ridiculously obvious things, like ONE hair, only ONE, also surviving and hurricane blizzard, it feels like somebody planted the most obvious things they could Haha... 😅 I dont know... I just cant stop thinking of some of the things, like his injuries and clothing.. and that search I belive was on the computer one of the "friends" did of "how long does it take to die in the snow" etc... This case is very tricky for sure haha 😅
@@NathalieCwiekSwiercz it was not a hurricane, a blizzard, if you look at the bumper it has ridges in it so it would not come off easily, it also snowed.
Im still waiting for someone to explain exactly how this happened and why there is and is no evidence for their theory. Wheres the digital reinactment showing everything?
Maybe the same snow plow that hit him is the same machinery that hit her tail light and scraped her car. There is NO WAY bumping someone in a driveway with a regular vehicle would smash a tail light and kill a big man. 🤔
Totally agree!! No possible way a body could break a taillight at a slow speed. Major impact would have to be seen on the body to support a broken taillight. It’s not there!
Brian Albert Sr, Brian Higgins and Colin Albert were probably beating on poor John O’Keefe. Brian Sr. was a Marine, Desert Storm veteran and had been involved in professional fighting and boxing.
Karen Read hit John O'Keefe - she should have admitted it - mistake or not. The defense team took innocent witnesses and badgered them making them scapegoats for reasonable doubt. What I find most disturbing is that Karen knows what happened and isn't telling the truth.
This was terrible to see today, what a terrible way to die. Nick is irrational - "the sweater looks washed"...so they washed the dog dna out of then put pig dna on the sweater. And he was directly asked where he got the information of missing 3L of blood, skirted around it. Kevin is such a voice of reason, this truly is such a simple case. She was the first to know he was dead, ""Kerry, Kerry, Kerry - Johns dead!". Johns niece testified she heard Karen say "Maybe I hit him, maybe a snowplow hit him" She knew he was hit by a vehicle, she said "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him." To claim that 40+ witnesses are lying on including the niece and friend of O'keefe. It is so sad how fragile some ego's are that they are willing to vilify entire families instead of admit they are wrong or didnt have the facts straight. So Nick, source the 3L of missing blood!
@@SunnyDays70sGoing by the evidence it would seem like the broken glass he was on is an excellent candidate. There was no dog dna. So going the evidence, what do you say?
@@SunnyDays70s Ah yes, "Maybe I hit him" and "I hit him" are so far off, both were heard from different witnesses, unless you are suggesting that the niece is in the frame up? She knew he was dead, she knew he was hit by a vehicle, and she knew where his cold body was under the snow, she didn't even wipe the snow off his face, Kerry had to do that. The same Kerry that she called and said, "Kerry, Kerry, Kerry, Johns dead."
And???? Supposedly they smashed the taillight at the police station and THEN returned and planted the evidence. But that would be impossible given the proven time that taillight pieces were found at the scene.
You're wrong Vinnie, Karen witness the murder, she's the killer, and only TB minions believe otherwise because they need him to tell them BS theories, they can't think on their own
There is NO conspiracy …. Karen Read will have to live with this if she gets out of it. !!! I feel sorry for the Children.. no parents or John ! So selfish !
Poor Kevin. He and his pals online have spent the past 5 weeks making excuses for the CW’s blunders and weak case. I don’t think he understands that is he’s gotta make excuses or come up with “maybes” and “what ifs” that’s LITERALLY reasonable doubt and Karen is acquitted. 😆
@pistolpete8231 I honestly have never been so annoyed by a person I never met in life. I think it’s the way he speaks with facts, and you realize how absurd everything he is saying actually is.
I feel so upset for John's family having to see hes clothes with all the blood on them and listening to the trial today ..Then u get karen and her bunch of clowns 🤡 sniggering and joking about how bloody Disrespectful and Disgusting 🫣 😤
I haven't heard of one person in this case, who is sober. How many court hours are spent, trying to piece together facts, that in reality, were lost when each one was too pissed. Officers driving drunk to stations, witnesses being treated as drinking buddies. Ask the alcohol..ohno you cannot, so how would ANYONE, EVER, KNOW.???
I thought there was a video shown before the case, that showed her backing into a car in her driveway. The tail light was broken in her own driveway. Where is this video?
She intentionally tried to hit John car, no damage to John's car didn't even disturb the snow on the straight back window. Library video and show broken taillight after leaving Fairview St after killing John and leaving him to die in a blizzard
@MaureenODonovan Are you saying they finally found the missing footage from the library video?! You need to tell Lally!! He was looking for that and couldn’t explain the missing footage from the exact time needed..
Life 360 Ali madcap bangbang getaway Google search 2:27:40 a.m. EST hos long Cabal planning group texts Corrupt lead investigator illegal device search Destroying phones. Video 5:08 showing slight crack in tsillight MOUNTAIN of technology tells the tale
Three google searches, the first was at 2:27:40 a.m. E.S.T. Life 360 Ali getaway ride with colin Group texts plotting the cover-up (which they thought they got rid of but FBI said hold on) Only video not disappeared by corrupt LE shows at 5:08 lexus taillight with just a sliver missing endless butt dials, butt answers and butt deletions? ...and the defense has not yet started
No one said who the hair even belonged to. They just said they found a hair. It could have been anyones hair. If they said in trial today that they knew whose hair it was then I missed that part.
I think that after everything she’s been through she’s got nothing let! She has gone through hell because of these horrible officers! Who, mind you don’t even seem to care about their brother in blue that died. None of them gave a crap. Karen was the only one that showed any emotion when the poor man was laying there and tried to help him. It’s all just really sad and I really hope that some justiceis found for officer John O’Keefe. I’m going to refer to him as Officer even though none of the other people do. It’s a real shame.
The hair was never even said to be OJO's!!!!! It's wild that they are trying to say a piece of hair stayed on the back of a trunk in a 60 mile snow storm... like come on!
So they must have had a Time Machine then? Is that what you are saying ? Karen’s car wasn’t at the port yet and the tail light pieces were found. Work that one out will you. Nothing was planted. She has planted a spell on everyone.
One of the biggest red flags in this case imo is notably before JO was found, KR (whilst having every opportunity over a period of around two hours) never asked Jen McCabe or anyone else, if they knew if JO was still at the house, or if he had left, and if so what time? Hence, KR knew JO never went in the house. During this time, KR had also said to JO’s niece, may be she did something and a snowplow hit him. This is all in evidence during the trial.
@@erkaderka3571 If you care so much and watched the trial, obviously think about the evidence given or go rewatch those relevant witnesses and parts of the trial. The evidence is right there. Also what witnesses attest to is classed as evidence and facts unless it is challenged and proven wrong. Otherwise it comes across that you are being antagonistic.
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy Who said I am, you as a nobody YT’er. If you care so much and watched the trial, obviously think about the evidence given or go rewatch those relevant witnesses and parts of the trial. The evidence is right there. Also what witnesses attest to is classed as evidence and thus facts unless it is challenged and proven wrong. Otherwise it comes across that you are being antagonistic and by the way you speak you are obviously a KR supporter and don’t like the truth or true facts right and have this weird need to demand your opinions are facts and evidence when they are not!
If they planted the shoe with the taillight, what would be the purpose? It doesn't implicate her at all. It actually helps prove the state's claims that additional evidence was simply found at a later time with additional searching.
@@lornalewis9798 A one-letter typo makes you 'LMAO'? You either don't 'git' out much, or the commenter's right & you're mad you don't have a pithy comeback. I'd say it's both, but ... 'LMAO.'
@BoxerClover if you even hint at KR being guilty the "supporters" swarm. I have 0 sympathy for KR . She caused all of this. If hitting JO with her SUV wasn't bad enough, then leaving him there? Pure evil.
These all seem like pretty awful people, but when I think about her killing him with her car, it just seems like that wouldn't have been a significant impact that a person wouldn't just drive away from all of it silent, bloodless, etc, and if she was sober enough to drive she would have known she'd been in an accident. It sounds implausible, but so does the alternate theory. I do hope one day we all know what really happened. My heart breaks for those kids.
The only thing I can think that is after he was hit by Karen he was hit again by the snow plow. That would explain the scratches, the shoes, and taillight pieces
@maanmohammad8459 exactly!!! Crazy because noone blamed KR , and KR has blamed ANYONE she can. By my count she has even tried to blame an animal? Something is seriously wrong with that girl. I feel terrible she dragged all of these innocent people into this. A fun night with friends for them, turned into a nightmare. Because of 1 persons actions. Karen Read.
I think you’ve got a point, there’s been so much hype around a conspiracy I think she actually believes it, it’s probably easier than accepting the truth, that she is likely responsible.
The MA State Police SERT team found pieces of taillight and John's sneaker underneath undisturbed snow, north of the area where John's body was found. This completely refutes the defense theory that evidence was planted
@@Mrglock54 It is clear from all the pictures.Unless those other 5 or seven cops are parts of the conspiracy,along with almost the whole state of MASS.
Johns hoodie is cut because they had to take it off him while preserving evidence not from a dog lmao karen is guilty to believe otherwise you would have to believe a whole town, fire/emt department, police department, judge prosecution are all involved which is hilarious to believe. One person did this her names karen read. Dont believe turtleboy. Money>truth.
The commonwealth seems to have proven, if anything, that she may have hit him, but how can they say it was on purpose and she knowongly left him? Seems like worst case scenario it was a drunk driving accident
I think she hit him when drunk. We know she was drunk based on BAC. There’s a tv clip of her father actually saying that she said she hit something. She didn’t remember going to the waterfall, so she was blacked out. All equals vehicular manslaughter
ALL THESE BREAKS AND DELAYS BY THE JUDGE IS SO THE PROSECUTION CAN GET TO THE NEXT WITNESS, COACH THEM, INCREASE THEIR PAY, PROMISE THEM PENSION ETC....there is no way a trial runs like such a circus and all these people get up here obviously fibbing. This is getting ridiculous. If that grown man, officer at that== got hit by a car at that slow of a speed he would not roll over and die....he would YELL FOR HELP then crawl into that house. period.
@@cindariley7315Aren’t they saying she backed up 60’ at 24 mph? Great driving, right? A purportedly heavily intoxicated KR could DELIBERATELY target & kill John O’Keefe by driving like this??
The prosecution’s case only goes to show just how corrupt Proctor is. It’s beginning to seem like the prosecution is putting on a show and pushing buttons in the hopes that someone will spill the truth in hopes of saving themself.
@@BoxerClover I welcome them to the real world where you shouldn’t expect to find justice in a courtroom. Next they will understand the police are not your friends.
I think she hit him, maybe accidentally, but i think she did it. It makes no sense for her to say ' i hit him/did i hit him?' out of the blue. And why would so many people be involved in a cover up and in such a clumsy way?
That’s my thought about her first response being “could I have hit him/did I hit him” that’s not a normal response to have just because your boyfriend didn’t come home from a party. But all the other stuff doesn’t make sense: why google at 2 am how long to die in the snow? Deleted messages, destroyed phones, etc. I go back and forth on how this happened. But her thinking that right away is a massive red flag.
I don’t believe in this conspiracy theory thing that the defense keeps on pushing! It’s been how many years already and not single person out of that group said anything to anyone! Not even an anonymous call or email to the police or media or social media.
It's a joke she did it and her and her team are clowns no Respect for John's family there was snow on her vehicle so yes after the snow melt they found the hair ffs
With hit and runs I think it is ridiculous to blame the property owner. She was out of control drunk in a huge vehicle. She doesn’t even know what she did but she did. People that knew him longer than her, that cared about him would have no reason to kill him.
Kevin is 100% correct. He speaks of what is in evidence and common sense and logic! JO could’ve been sitting up initially and then falling backwards after going into an unconscious or semi unconscious state due his head injury which is normal and you may not go unconscious immediately (lining up with his phone being found underneath him). Conspiracy theorists always twist things to suit their narrative and can also say misleading or wrong things.
He might slide and fall before she hit him! Couldn’t he have been hit by car while sitting or while trying to get up??? Why not? He felt backwards, hit his head! in any case… she hit him. She is quilty. She is just lucky nobody saw it!!!
Yeah it seems like the one's who investigated this cared so much that they did a flawless investigation and not piss poor one...no, I'm not for or against Karen but John got let down by these people that did the investigation and then the others give the optics of fighting to hide stuff.....the way things have been handled thus far in all of this is so disrespectful to John and his family
@@Lanny-io9bi This investigation was not piss poor and was in no way disrespectful to O Keefe. It was just SO obvious that Karen Read drunkenly ran over O Keefe that no one else was viewed as a suspect, nor should they have been. The blizzard conditions made it very difficult to properly investigate the crime scene and the police did the best that they could under the circumstances. It is this contemptible conspiracy narrative that is disrespectful to O Keefe.
These taillights aren’t fragile pieces of old China. This “expert” saying taillights are easy to break is just ridiculous. They are made out of very, durable poly plastic, and don’t just shader into 47 different pieces if they hit a human or another car.
I feel like when she hit him, he was slammed hard against another car or some other object then he slipped out and she slammed that car/object…also that kid Nick seems to just be a cop hater and grasping at anything to make them look bad 🤷♀️
What if John broke the taillight with his cocktail glass in anger after a fight with Karen? He could have been injured any time after her vehicle left.
#CourtTV - What do YOU think?
Get rid of weirdo Kevin in his wood paneled room. Ugh he provides zero insights that are helpful. Boooooo
She’s guilty
@@sarasmilesco8551I wonder why proctor hasn’t been questioned yet??
@@kristentrep5038 trial isn’t over
@@sarasmilesco8551 I wonder why so many butt call from more than 1 witnesses in one night ? And unexplainable search history. It might be the electromagnetic that night was so strong , these phone went cray cray ....
Don't ANY of the homes around the 'party house' on fairview have surveillance cameras ? Is this case ridiculous or what ?
They got rid of everything.
Apparently the neighbor's(also a police officer) cctv is missing 42 mins right at the time JO was apparently 'being hit' by Kare is missing. How convenient.
@@hoverboyWow! I hate it when that happens 🤔
This took place way, way back in 2022… the dark ages of cctv- ring and nest cameras were rare all those years ago. (Sarcasm)
There were no cameras that worked in 1940 when this happened. Hence the one missing from the Sally Port as well and Canton Library
No way that little piece of her tailight missing would break into that many pieces hitting a body
And lay in the snow sticking straight up.
@@Sistersister83 doesn’t make any sense … they were buried under snow and let’s remember Karen’s car wasn’t even in the sallyport when the tail light pieces was found by sert .. impossible to plant under the snow
Theres something really off about this case..so many terrible witnesses and terrible liars!
Trust instinct.
It’s off because the whole case and trial is a scam.
Id love to be a fly on the wall or an owl in the sly to see what really went down.
What do u think happened. I think the kids started to fight with john and the dog took over @mylesbishop1240
The only lier is Karen Read and her colt who supports her
@@EstherDoyle-i2uwell Said 😁
My question is still why would John be behind the car when he should have been walking toward the house. And the wounds on his arm do n9t look like a car hit.
Because her black box of her lexus will show she backed it up and turned off the safety feature at the same time . Very suspicious as well as deleting all the ring cameras at John’s house .. and all the crazy texts and voicemails she left John on his phone . She is guilty guilty guilty and has managed to fool a lot of people !!!
Because he was not killed by a car and the bodily injuries do not match at all. It is impossible it's factually impossible. It's not only that Karen is innocent, it's that no car killed John. The FBI has already confirmed this.
It defies logic, physics, and common sense for 6,000 lb of metal moving with inertia would not cause gross bodily injuries and would simply punch him in the face and hit him on the back of the head as well as attack his arm. So strange that her tail light was broken and custody and video of her car impounded went missing. But that's besides the point, nobody hit John with a car, not karen, not somebody else, it's factually impossible that he was hit by a car.
The FBI has confirmed his bodily injuries are not from being hit by a car or 6,000 lb suv. FBI forensic analysis has also confirmed that Jen McCabe's searches are accurate. Colin and Brian attacked him in the basement after the blunt force trauma to the back of the head, he had a seizure and vomited and he lost three pints of blood which is why they ripped up the basement flooring. And yes, while they attacked him Chloe was also in the basement and she attacked his arm. Initially they planned to pretend a snow plow driver hit him. They threw him on the lawn and that's why Jen McCabe googled how long to die in the cold. They should have called in 911, but they wanted to protect themselves and especially colin. The next morning Jen McCabe did not want Karen to stop at fairview. She tried to keep driving on. Karen insisted and jumped out of the car. That foiled their plans of blaming the snow plow driver and so from there they had to frame Karen
Police corruption affects everyone. Regardless of how anyone feels about Karen and her supporters, they should be against abuse of power by public servants. It’s unacceptable.
The police conspiracy is just in your head. I highly recommend visiting a doctor.
They are turtleboy supporters not karen read supporters let's get that right.
Sure, corruption affects everyone but don't ignore the physical evidence that was just discussed in the video.
@sandscorcher3332 What conspiracy? That cops are human and very capable of abusing their power? They aren't gods or saints.
Facts!!
As someone who has sat on a jury before, and talked with 11 other people, and how they see or took in information. I can tell you at this point in this trial. We are just over halfway through the prosecution's witnesses. There is already so much reasonable doubt. Even if they think Karen hit him. Nobody on that jury believes it was intentional. There's probably a few who think she was grossly overcharged. There might even be a few believe this is a cover-up. But not one of them believes that this was her pissed off, backed up 60 ft at 24 mi an hour, hit him and did that damage. By the time they're through with all their experts some of these people will go back and forth. After the defense gets up there. It's going to be all over. This trial is either going to end with acquitting Karen or hung jury. I can't see a possible conviction in this. There are so many red flags and so much reasonable doubt. It's damn near impossible to get 12 people to agree what they're going to have for lunch. What we've seen so far you're not going to get 12 people to agree, yes she did this on purpose.
Me: Ah yes, forensics, they have pieces of the broken taillight from the Lexus, they must have tested it in a Gas Chromatograph Mass Spectrometer to see if it was an exact match.
Forensic Lady: N O T H I N G S P E C I F I C ! ! !
Realy? I guess they must've brought it from a junk yard.
Oh ok she’s part of this crazy conspiracy too ? What we are up to like 60 people all lying .. come on !!!!
They can magically find a hair on a car in a blizzard but they can’t find any other evidence that really proves anything.
@@coleengogerty3852Her taillight pieces are at the crime scene before her car was even at the port. So that throws the coverup out the window. She’s guilty. Things stick to frozen surfaces. Karen is a nut job that’s thrown a city into turmoil because of her selfishness and her narcissistic ways. She will get karma some way or another
@stevenprice
You okay?
Starting to sound unhinged.
One way or another?
Those poor children!! 💔
My heart breaks for Johns family!! To never have definitive answers makes it all the more painful 💔🙏
The most despicable thing what ever you believe, is those people outside the court booing his parents. What the hell did those poor people do to be treated like that 😡
This didnt happen
That is a "cult" mentality for you.
I’ve heard nothing about that , that would be despicable, but not as despicable as police abusing their power to kill and then frame a woman and manipulate a system. It wasn’t good enough to just not have evidence to prove what happened and never bring charges, no these cops wanted a trial that would exonerate them in the public eye, forget what it cost Karen, forget what it cost the tax payer. They always knew they could not get a conviction no matter what with that kind of chain of custody and evidence collection it would have be won on appeal. The objective was to have the Albertsons seemingly exonerated all the while running a clear PR campaign against Karen. Imagine having the power to force a D.A. To go on tv and lie for you !
@@darcymoon2109 yes it did and it’s on videos .. and they have been harassed for two years because they know karen hit their son .. it’s an absolute disgrace !!
@@Babyd320it’s the Alberts and McCabes who were being booed-Not the O’Keefe’s.
How do they explain the fact he would have been hit in the road and landed on the lawn , and magically the whole tail light also landed on the lawn ?? HOW ?
I'm sorry but even the evidence doesn't match the way the SUV would have had to strike John , the pieces of light would have fallen in the road.
None of the crash evidence makes sense to how it would have played out.
Listen to that sound of the engine ,,everyone would have heard it reversing to 24mph.
NOT GUILTY
False statements of fact
where did his BELT GO!?!??
@@thomasgirty6397 it’s on his pants in the evidence pictures. Did they lose it afterward or something?
@@thomasgirty6397They were wrong about the belt it was still on him.
@@thomasgirty6397I think this may have been confused with another case, a boy about 16/17 was hit and found without trousers on and his belt missing
so the ice melts yet the single strain of hair remains and doesn't wash off. it's another win for Karen.
If I was on that jury and I found out that the live tape of her Lexus was missing .over a hour of time that it was suppose to be under surveillance and then they announce the broken taillight.
I would not believe them. They should be held to a very high standard and this is the death of a fellow officer.
Way too many mistakes that in my mind add up to at this point things done on purpose.
Hair has a way if finding a crevice ir location to get stuck to.
Since so many on the FKR bandwagon like to speculate about everything I’m going to speculate about that hair.
there was likely far more hair on that car and it DID fall off, blow away, during the drive/storm because it was more superficially attached…but that 1 hair was still attached due to being stuck in a crevice or attached to dirt on car or by snow that had become like ice on her car and during the drive through storm it would have stayed in position as it was attached strongly enough.
It’s also perfectly reasonable to conclude at some point the hair -as it was sitting in Sally port and forensics had started working (or before they started working) the melting ice turning to water could’ve made that hair slide down a bit.
We’ve all seen something (a piece of hair, lint, a bug etc) caught in drips of water, on an object like a Car, a window, etc, and the hair, lint, bug, is fully attached & clinging to the object…side of car or window.
To pretend otherwise is just disingenuous
@@Gle7799Exactly the FKR conspiracy mongers sound more & more desperate every day.
@@cateellington4081 exactly 👍
As to the damage to JO’s upper right arm described by medical professionals as abrasions (not scratches), the smaller ones are not dog bites because there was no damage under his arm and they are scattered and far apart. Therefore, if it was a dog, it was a dog with only one top tooth and no bottom teeth.
Scratches, not bites.
@@Kat-hn3ki I’m not not talking about the alleged scratches (actually deemed abrasions by medical professionals), I’m talking about the smaller abrasions allegedly being dog bites, which they cannot be, or it is at least highly improbable unless it’s was a dog with only one top tooth and no bottom teeth.
Where is the missing dog? maybe that dog is also missing teeth. Missing dog, butt dials, deleted phone searches, missing videos at specific times, come on. That's just a lot of controlled missing data/evidence.
Did prosecution say where 3.5 liters of blood might be?
EXACTLY!!!!!
Inside his body cavity
I’ve never heard about this 3.5 liters of blood. Who said this?
Nope! Maybe they’ll suggest Karen’s a vampire??
Clearly a lot of it was on his clothes as we can all see from the pictures.
This whole case is just confusing.
Because it doesn’t add up.
A vehicle did not cause his injuries.
Exactly and that is reasonable doubt!
I think that's the point
I wonder if the jury are paying attention to lally
@@elizabethkavanagh3411I’m sure they do . Guilty!
So now the crime lab is involved in the cover up.
Everyone is out to get Karen 🙄
No one said that.
@keriissovery9566 No. They are protecting each other. Karen has little to do with it.
Right! 🙄 everybody is involved in a conspiracy cover up! 😂😂😂
That has not been said by anyone. What HAS been said is the collection of the evidence was flawed (putting it very mildly). Once sloppily collected evidence is submitted to the lab the results the lab comes up with are suspect at best and completely worthless at worst.
Little by little the case against Read is coming together.Justice and truth for Officer O'keefe and his family ❤️
So now the tail light, the hair, and the cocktail glass pieces were all planted. Conspiracy and conspirators continues to grow even now.
yeh, police has never been caught with planting evidence/drugs before...
Your statement implies that “conspirators” are just now coming up with a “they were planted” excuse for this evidence. People have been saying these items were planted for literally years at this point. It’s not some new or growing conspiracy theory. It is part and parcel of the theory many of us have had all along.
Ridiculous.. nothing was planted and impossible to do
Exactly
Lol.Even the car conspired against her.
Karen Read is guilty of hitting him with her vehicle. She was drunk, jealous and furious with John. Poor man. A jealous person is dangerous!
Everyone at the Waterfall said John and Karen were happy together that night. There is no proof that Karen was jealous of John. Just because she might have or might not have witnessed John a month before possibly kissing a girl does not mean a month later she planned to kill him especially in front of so many cops. It doesn't make sense. Plus what else doesn't make sense is Jen M, her husband and whoever else saying that at a party at the Alberts after the Waterfall, they on several occasions looked out the window at separate times to see Karen's car. Who does that? While all admitted to having many many drinks.
@florencehaber9847 who looks out their windows 2 see if friends [who'd confirmed they'd be at your get-together] had arrived yet, b/c u couldn't quite figure out where they might be, & the texts u sent them weren't being returned? 'who does that?' no 1. absolutely no 1. 🙄
This case was horribly investigated ,its a shame
Kev: they did not even protect the scene. You kidding me?
The guests on this show are misstating facts. The SERT team leader explicitly testified that John's sneaker and the pieces of glass and taillight were recovered underneath undisturbed snow, in an area north of the area where John's body was found. The Canton police searched the immediate area where the body was found, and they never used shovels. The fact that the snow was undisturbed in all areas, except the middle of the road where the plow drove through, completely destroys the defense theory that the evidence was planted.
Hopefully the jury is paying attention and not like so many that want to believe everyone’s out to get Karen.
Unless you think the evidence was planted.
If it was planted, they could've shoveled snow on top of it, had brian come thru w/ his plow, or it could've been snowing at the time it was planted...
@@erkaderka3571lol
The chain of custody is nonexistent. They should have found this “evidence” that night or the next day. The site should have been sealed off.
The investigators have no credibility.
I don't know if Karen is quilty. However, her attornies are doing much better than the prosecutor!
I forgot that a woman is on trial for murder. I've been too focused on the prosecutions witnesses. They are seem lying, shady ass people that are hiding something.
That hair is on top of dried water marks. Holes in hoodie but is scratches on John's arm. Hmmm. Sorry I have doubt Karen hit him. I think the defense has proved reasonable doubt at this point..
I saw a forensic file where a congressman hit a man in his bike. The congressman traded in the suv, and got a new car. After being through a complete owner change and complete clean. They were able to get a hair from the rear view mirror and a Jean Fibre from the wheel well over a year after the incident.
Scratches on the arm contained no dog DNA, as testified to. But there were shards of a glass stien found. You know what makes slices like that? Broken glass
The prosecution has been putting on a defense.
I agree
@@ms.demeanors Dogs are often given dried pig ears to chew on.
How did that glass stay on the bumper on the tow truck bouncing 😂
It was on a flatbed tow truck, there are ridges on the bumper and it was covered with frozen snow.
@@mauiswift6391 lol ya ok
@@mauiswift6391 yeah but still dosent explain how the glass stayed there they whole time after she drove home in a hurricane etc... I just feel like all of the evidence is so ridiculously obvious things, like ONE hair, only ONE, also surviving and hurricane blizzard, it feels like somebody planted the most obvious things they could Haha... 😅
I dont know... I just cant stop thinking of some of the things, like his injuries and clothing..
and that search I belive was on the computer one of the "friends" did of "how long does it take to die in the snow" etc...
This case is very tricky for sure haha 😅
@@NathalieCwiekSwiercz it was not a hurricane, a blizzard, if you look at the bumper it has ridges in it so it would not come off easily, it also snowed.
@@gigigregory5858 all you do is respond emotionally, if you don’t agree fine. You can’t help your thinking capacity.
Im still waiting for someone to explain exactly how this happened and why there is and is no evidence for their theory. Wheres the digital reinactment showing everything?
No one piece usually point to a crime.There are few elements that juries consider.Even eye witnesses accounts differ.
Witness accounts only differ when they aren’t telling the truth.
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy
Really? I think seasoned detectives beg to differ with you.
What the hell is a swason?
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy
Corrected it for you.
How did he get hit in the head by a tail light? Was he on his knees?
He hit his head on the ground when she clipped his right side.
@@mauiswift6391 scratch / bite marks on the arm and he looked like he went 10 rounds with Mike Tyson.
@@Gala_tha_Prince if you still think that I can’t help you and anything I say is a waste of my time.
@SunriseBlue-tc9me could have, but Lally said in his opening statement his head it the ground.
@sunrise
New theory?
Come on now!
Maybe the same snow plow that hit him is the same machinery that hit her tail light and scraped her car. There is NO WAY bumping someone in a driveway with a regular vehicle would smash a tail light and kill a big man. 🤔
Totally agree!! No possible way a body could break a taillight at a slow speed. Major impact would have to be seen on the body to support a broken taillight. It’s not there!
It wasn’t in a driveway. She reversed 60 feet at 24 mph.
Brian Albert Sr, Brian Higgins and Colin Albert were probably beating on poor John O’Keefe. Brian Sr. was a Marine, Desert Storm veteran and had been involved in professional fighting and boxing.
Agreed 👍
Glass in his hand broke the tail light
Karen Read hit John O'Keefe - she should have admitted it - mistake or not. The defense team took innocent witnesses and badgered them making them scapegoats for reasonable doubt. What I find most disturbing is that Karen knows what happened and isn't telling the truth.
Those innocent people haven't been caught up in any lies?
Jen Mcabe is trolling the comments...lol
@@ianthorne4383 😂
@@ianthorne4383You’re really taking this conspiracy to a whole other level. It’s never ending 😂
So there no possibility that the police could be corrupt or that there is another explanation.
Imo there is no way KR will ever testify - no way no day. For reasons that go without saying.
This was terrible to see today, what a terrible way to die. Nick is irrational - "the sweater looks washed"...so they washed the dog dna out of then put pig dna on the sweater. And he was directly asked where he got the information of missing 3L of blood, skirted around it. Kevin is such a voice of reason, this truly is such a simple case. She was the first to know he was dead, ""Kerry, Kerry, Kerry - Johns dead!". Johns niece testified she heard Karen say "Maybe I hit him, maybe a snowplow hit him" She knew he was hit by a vehicle, she said "I hit him, I hit him, I hit him." To claim that 40+ witnesses are lying on including the niece and friend of O'keefe. It is so sad how fragile some ego's are that they are willing to vilify entire families instead of admit they are wrong or didnt have the facts straight. So Nick, source the 3L of missing blood!
his 15 minutes of fame
How about you source the ‘I hit him’ statements in the police report?! We’ll wait.
Next, please explain the arm injuries since you seem to know it all.
Yet others have the ego.😂
@@SunnyDays70sGoing by the evidence it would seem like the broken glass he was on is an excellent candidate. There was no dog dna. So going the evidence, what do you say?
@@SunnyDays70s Ah yes, "Maybe I hit him" and "I hit him" are so far off, both were heard from different witnesses, unless you are suggesting that the niece is in the frame up? She knew he was dead, she knew he was hit by a vehicle, and she knew where his cold body was under the snow, she didn't even wipe the snow off his face, Kerry had to do that. The same Kerry that she called and said, "Kerry, Kerry, Kerry, Johns dead."
He was not injured by vehicle, per FBI.
The murder weapon was freezing cold, time and friends who really were not.
'murder weapon'?
That is about the most concise summation of this case I have heard since nearly day one.
Maybe a space ship?
Karen hit him.....she was just too drunk to knew it! Guilty.....2nd degree homicide!
FBI never said that. Defense did.
The scene was never secured! It was open to the public...to the home owner..to everyone and they didn't find anything until they took her car
And???? Supposedly they smashed the taillight at the police station and THEN returned and planted the evidence. But that would be impossible given the proven time that taillight pieces were found at the scene.
not true AT ALL. check the timeline.
@@milart12the found tail light pieces 12 hours after having her car.
@@keli449 Yeah...And??? Let me guess. The police planted the debris there in order to frame Read.
You're wrong Vinnie, Karen witness the murder, she's the killer, and only TB minions believe otherwise because they need him to tell them BS theories, they can't think on their own
Is it possible that Karen hit him and didn't know she did, and he was so inebriated that he just passed out and died in the snow?
I think that is what happened.
If the car hit him there would be victim’s blood, DNA on the car.
@@Zahra-rz6fw How do you know that? What is your expertise in this area?
How do you explain the holes in his sweatshirt, an SUV wouldn't do that.
@@itsjust_Lisa How do you know that?
And no dents on the vehicle... sure 😂😂😂
There is NO conspiracy …. Karen Read will have to live with this if she gets out of it. !!! I feel sorry for the Children.. no parents or John ! So selfish !
Poor Kevin. He and his pals online have spent the past 5 weeks making excuses for the CW’s blunders and weak case. I don’t think he understands that is he’s gotta make excuses or come up with “maybes” and “what ifs” that’s LITERALLY reasonable doubt and Karen is acquitted. 😆
He’s a clown. He will stick to his theories and change them as things evolve.
Too inept and narcissistic to admit could actually be wrong.
He annoys me so much it's not even funny.
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy Sounds like your describing a Karen Read Supporter!
Y’all need help
@pistolpete8231
I honestly have never been so annoyed by a person I never met in life. I think it’s the way he speaks with facts, and you realize how absurd everything he is saying actually is.
I feel so upset for John's family having to see hes clothes with all the blood on them and listening to the trial today ..Then u get karen and her bunch of clowns 🤡 sniggering and joking about how bloody Disrespectful and Disgusting 🫣 😤
She has been disrespectful all the way thru this trial
LOL ok “juliecarroll”….we know you are jen mcdumbass
You got a bunch of intoxicated cops driving each other home. None of them are reliable. It’s just a big clown show.
I haven't heard of one person in this case, who is sober. How many court hours are spent, trying to piece together facts, that in reality, were lost when each one was too pissed. Officers driving drunk to stations, witnesses being treated as drinking buddies. Ask the alcohol..ohno you cannot, so how would ANYONE, EVER, KNOW.???
Bunch of drunks
Sad but true,you're speaking straight facts😢
I thought there was a video shown before the case, that showed her backing into a car in her driveway. The tail light was broken in her own driveway. Where is this video?
I also saw that video!
the defense will present during their presentation
She intentionally tried to hit John car, no damage to John's car didn't even disturb the snow on the straight back window. Library video and show broken taillight after leaving Fairview St after killing John and leaving him to die in a blizzard
@MaureenODonovan
Are you saying they finally found the missing footage from the library video?!
You need to tell Lally!!
He was looking for that and couldn’t explain the missing footage from the exact time needed..
@@MaureenODonovan that makes sense
Technology, not fabricated/planted evidence tells the tale true
(in fairly specific details).the McAlberts epic fail frame job.
What do you mean?
Life 360 Ali madcap bangbang getaway
Google search 2:27:40 a.m. EST hos long
Cabal planning group texts
Corrupt lead investigator illegal device search
Destroying phones.
Video 5:08 showing slight crack in tsillight
MOUNTAIN of technology tells the tale
Three google searches, the first was at 2:27:40 a.m. E.S.T.
Life 360 Ali getaway ride with colin
Group texts plotting the cover-up (which they thought they got rid of but FBI said hold on)
Only video not disappeared by corrupt LE shows at 5:08 lexus taillight with just a sliver missing
endless butt dials, butt answers and butt deletions?
...and the defense has not yet started
No one said who the hair even belonged to. They just said they found a hair. It could have been anyones hair. If they said in trial today that they knew whose hair it was then I missed that part.
That information is still coming .
It could have been from a snow brush. Origin was not determined.
Why didn’t they test the hair to see if it’s his?
I think they sent to a lab and it was inconclusive.
A hair from the root can be tested for DNA
You think karen would show emotion of remorse, sadness. One tear. She just smirks
*Being that you're totally and absolutely ignorant of the FACTS, listen a little to the case, there's over 50 FACTS that prove she is being framed*
I think that after everything she’s been through she’s got nothing let! She has gone through hell because of these horrible officers! Who, mind you don’t even seem to care about their brother in blue that died. None of them gave a crap. Karen was the only one that showed any emotion when the poor man was laying there and tried to help him. It’s all just really sad and I really hope that some justiceis found for officer John O’Keefe. I’m going to refer to him as Officer even though none of the other people do. It’s a real shame.
She couldn't even go to the funeral. These people blamed her and showed no remorse towards her, what should she do
@Kishy787 unfortunate but anyone can chose to go to a funeral or not. She's not showing any care in court for him
Defendants are expected to be stoic.
what is so awful is that if 911 was called he would be alive, this was a murder on purpose
Murder 𝘪𝘴 "on purpose." There's no murder by mistake.
The hair was never even said to be OJO's!!!!! It's wild that they are trying to say a piece of hair stayed on the back of a trunk in a 60 mile snow storm... like come on!
Cops broke the tail light in the sally port
So they must have had a Time Machine then? Is that what you are saying ? Karen’s car wasn’t at the port yet and the tail light pieces were found. Work that one out will you. Nothing was planted. She has planted a spell on everyone.
One of the biggest red flags in this case imo is notably before JO was found, KR (whilst having every opportunity over a period of around two hours) never asked Jen McCabe or anyone else, if they knew if JO was still at the house, or if he had left, and if so what time? Hence, KR knew JO never went in the house. During this time, KR had also said to JO’s niece, may be she did something and a snowplow hit him. This is all in evidence during the trial.
There is evidence? Can you direct me where with a video and/or time stamp? I must've missed it
@@erkaderka3571 kr's interviews with 2 national shows: 'dateline news' & another. look it up youself- you're the one questioning it.
@@erkaderka3571 If you care so much and watched the trial, obviously think about the evidence given or go rewatch those relevant witnesses and parts of the trial. The evidence is right there. Also what witnesses attest to is classed as evidence and facts unless it is challenged and proven wrong. Otherwise it comes across that you are being antagonistic.
Well then don’t make up fake accounts to spread false information.
@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy Who said I am, you as a nobody YT’er. If you care so much and watched the trial, obviously think about the evidence given or go rewatch those relevant witnesses and parts of the trial. The evidence is right there. Also what witnesses attest to is classed as evidence and thus facts unless it is challenged and proven wrong. Otherwise it comes across that you are being antagonistic and by the way you speak you are obviously a KR supporter and don’t like the truth or true facts right and have this weird need to demand your opinions are facts and evidence when they are not!
Surely is someone was going to “plant Hair “ they would plant more than 1 lol
😂
Karen shud be ashamed of herself trying to blame all security persons first responders who save lives hope she never needs first responders
These first responders are liars and connected
@@PostalWorker14 How many people do you think are involved in the conspiracy?
If they planted the shoe with the taillight, what would be the purpose? It doesn't implicate her at all. It actually helps prove the state's claims that additional evidence was simply found at a later time with additional searching.
Kevin is spot on as always. Saying the truth and not trying to git in with the crowd . The FKR movement are nuts, plain and simple.
100% 🐢🌰🥜
“Git”?
Lmao.
@@lornalewis9798
A one-letter typo makes you 'LMAO'? You either don't 'git' out much, or the commenter's right & you're mad you don't have a pithy comeback. I'd say it's both, but ... 'LMAO.'
@lornalewis9798 I'm white trash and im in trouble.🤣
@BoxerClover if you even hint at KR being guilty the "supporters" swarm. I have 0 sympathy for KR . She caused all of this. If hitting JO with her SUV wasn't bad enough, then leaving him there? Pure evil.
Why is she smiling -- I mean ur on trial for m. 👈🏻
Very strange behavior but she is known for hitting on those that give her attention.🤣
These all seem like pretty awful people, but when I think about her killing him with her car, it just seems like that wouldn't have been a significant impact that a person wouldn't just drive away from all of it silent, bloodless, etc, and if she was sober enough to drive she would have known she'd been in an accident. It sounds implausible, but so does the alternate theory. I do hope one day we all know what really happened. My heart breaks for those kids.
The only thing I can think that is after he was hit by Karen he was hit again by the snow plow. That would explain the scratches, the shoes, and taillight pieces
No chain of custody of all the evidence. Canton PD have to go back to training, Leaving evidence without documentation is reasonable doubt.
'of all the evidence'? 🤔
Her guilt is in her actions the moment she hit John O'Keefe and after.
Absolutely right.Add to that the words that came out of her mouth.
@maanmohammad8459 exactly!!!
Crazy because noone blamed KR , and KR has blamed ANYONE she can. By my count she has even tried to blame an animal? Something is seriously wrong with that girl. I feel terrible she dragged all of these innocent people into this. A fun night with friends for them, turned into a nightmare. Because of 1 persons actions. Karen Read.
I don’t understand how the tail light broke by striking a person?
No broken bones but hit by the SUV?
Medical exsminer will share more. Doctor focused oxygenation priority and ME will.address all injuries
She’s acting like a star😢 I guess she believes at hers lies . She sure did it!
I think you’ve got a point, there’s been so much hype around a conspiracy I think she actually believes it, it’s probably easier than accepting the truth, that she is likely responsible.
The MA State Police SERT team found pieces of taillight and John's sneaker underneath undisturbed snow, north of the area where John's body was found. This completely refutes the defense theory that evidence was planted
You must’ve been out there shoveling 💩 with them!
Tail light pieces were found 6 hours afterwards and after the blizzard.
@@Mrglock54
It is clear from all the pictures.Unless those other 5 or seven cops are parts of the conspiracy,along with almost the whole state of MASS.
@@keli449and before they had Karen’s car back at the port. So a cover up theory is gone out the door. Unless they had a Time Machine. She’s guilty
Defense attorneys like people to get off on technicalities. I'm holding out for justice, for John.
As I have said from day one Karen hit John with an SUV
Evidence?.
@@keli449 broken taillight a confession and John O'Keefe hair on her bumper
Johns hoodie is cut because they had to take it off him while preserving evidence not from a dog lmao karen is guilty to believe otherwise you would have to believe a whole town, fire/emt department, police department, judge prosecution are all involved which is hilarious to believe. One person did this her names karen read. Dont believe turtleboy. Money>truth.
KR caused absolute mayhem , with her actions. It is horrible.
The commonwealth seems to have proven, if anything, that she may have hit him, but how can they say it was on purpose and she knowongly left him? Seems like worst case scenario it was a drunk driving accident
I Believe saying its a setup is going to Backfire.Try Just have used the State can't Prove she hit him. But I also Believe she hit him when was Drunk.
I think she hit him when drunk. We know she was drunk based on BAC. There’s a tv clip of her father actually saying that she said she hit something. She didn’t remember going to the waterfall, so she was blacked out. All equals vehicular manslaughter
Right on!! Very drunk. She knows she is guilty.
ALL THESE BREAKS AND DELAYS BY THE JUDGE IS SO THE PROSECUTION CAN GET TO THE NEXT WITNESS, COACH THEM, INCREASE THEIR PAY, PROMISE THEM PENSION ETC....there is no way a trial runs like such a circus and all these people get up here obviously fibbing. This is getting ridiculous.
If that grown man, officer at that== got hit by a car at that slow of a speed he would not roll over and die....he would YELL FOR HELP then crawl into that house. period.
@@cindariley7315Aren’t they saying she backed up 60’ at 24 mph? Great driving, right? A purportedly heavily intoxicated KR could DELIBERATELY target & kill John O’Keefe by driving like this??
Watch the entirety of the clip, talking about hitting johns car.
I still find it hard to believe nobody saw his sneaker or all those taillight pieces not to mention WHERE IS ALL THE BLOOD????
Why would you assume that there would be a lot of blood?
Testimony from the medical examiner’s and dr on call when John came in.
Its testimony during trial - that has already happened.
Nick Rocco has a lot of questions and never answers the question being asked.
Need to start a Go Fund Me for Kevin so he can move out of his mommy’s basement.
He sure is homely looking! Looks like he has cottonmouth from too many Xanax
😂😂😂😂
He already had a go fund me
GUILTY
Swollen eyes can happen when blood leaks into your eyelid tissue usually after an eye or head injury.
Karen hit him and left him They are saying everybody.Was in on the murder Absolutely ridiculous
The prosecution’s case only goes to show just how corrupt Proctor is. It’s beginning to seem like the prosecution is putting on a show and pushing buttons in the hopes that someone will spill the truth in hopes of saving themself.
why on earth would prosecution want that when they're trying to prove kr is guilty? defense would want that.
I do'nt care what they found, she did it.!!
Doesn’t matter if she did it. Only matters what the state can prove. This case is weak.
@@darcymoon2109 it happens to matter very much to john's brokenhearted family & friends.
@@BoxerClover I welcome them to the real world where you shouldn’t expect to find justice in a courtroom. Next they will understand the police are not your friends.
I think she hit him, maybe accidentally, but i think she did it. It makes no sense for her to say ' i hit him/did i hit him?' out of the blue. And why would so many people be involved in a cover up and in such a clumsy way?
That’s my thought about her first response being “could I have hit him/did I hit him” that’s not a normal response to have just because your boyfriend didn’t come home from a party. But all the other stuff doesn’t make sense: why google at 2 am how long to die in the snow? Deleted messages, destroyed phones, etc. I go back and forth on how this happened. But her thinking that right away is a massive red flag.
@@sophiac.9312if he was found where she dropped him off, I could see her thinking that bc why on earth would she think his "friends" put him there?
It isn’t convincing to me. It seems like it had hit by a car/SUV then all these other injuries wouldn’t be under his clothing.
Yes the body doesn’t show signs he was hit by a vehicle.
You must not know anything about the case
Or you’re dense
@@jenniferlong651 why soo rude maybe she’s new to the case. And wasn’t there some blunt force trauma???
@@libertylongmore419 there was no blunt force trauma… there was scratches on arms etc .
I don’t believe in this conspiracy theory thing that the defense keeps on pushing! It’s been how many years already and not single person out of that group said anything to anyone! Not even an anonymous call or email to the police or media or social media.
They all rehomed their phones 😂
If you been watching the trial, it's pretty clear that they destroyed the stuff that would tell us what they were talking about
It's a joke she did it and her and her team are clowns no Respect for John's family there was snow on her vehicle so yes after the snow melt they found the hair ffs
@@Judrops.10 was it John's hair?
Uh yes, there was an anonymous phone call. Maybe do some research?
Yeah Nick how did the hair get there, especially when John was already dead at the hospital way before Procter got there?
She is guilty.
Of course she is and this Campaign to get her off is a disgrace
She hit him…Guilty as charged!!! Book her!
With hit and runs I think it is ridiculous to blame the property owner. She was out of control drunk in a huge vehicle. She doesn’t even know what she did but she did. People that knew him longer than her, that cared about him would have no reason to kill him.
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Try to use your brain more
Gotta feel sorry for the kids 😢😢😢😢😢
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She will never testify
Kevin is 100% correct. He speaks of what is in evidence and common sense and logic! JO could’ve been sitting up initially and then falling backwards after going into an unconscious or semi unconscious state due his head injury which is normal and you may not go unconscious immediately (lining up with his phone being found underneath him). Conspiracy theorists always twist things to suit their narrative and can also say misleading or wrong things.
Vinnie !! I’ve been hooked on this case. You’re so great at keeping your audience informed and captivated. Thank You Court TV
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Guilty!!! It all comes together!!
No kidding!!!!
John used that car frequently if it's even his hair
He might slide and fall before she hit him! Couldn’t he have been hit by car while sitting or while trying to get up??? Why not? He felt backwards, hit his head! in any case… she hit him. She is quilty. She is just lucky nobody saw it!!!
there's big reason someone couldn't sleep and waking up friends to look for John at that time
Karen read is guilty
The scratches aren’t dog bites …
Why do you bother having Nick commenting? Such a waste of time. So goofy.
He’s so stupid that I feel Almost bad for him
Nick is the very definition of “punk”. Plus he’s “wicked creepy”!
They were All Intoxicated the night John was apparently killed . Sad sad case exspecially for Johns Family.
Was her car's computer checked? Was it in reverse at the time she possibly backed into him?
Excellent question
@@TDcomedyparodyIndeed it is?!?
Yes. That’s in evidence. At the time of the reversal. John’s phone moves a short distance then doesn’t move again. It’s open and shut for me.
@@stevenprice6957and what about Apple Health’s evidence that he walked 3 sets of stairs?
The Read fan club is delusional. Poor John, nobody seems to care about him, it's all about the killer.
Yeah it seems like the one's who investigated this cared so much that they did a flawless investigation and not piss poor one...no, I'm not for or against Karen but John got let down by these people that did the investigation and then the others give the optics of fighting to hide stuff.....the way things have been handled thus far in all of this is so disrespectful to John and his family
@@Lanny-io9bi This investigation was not piss poor and was in no way disrespectful to O Keefe. It was just SO obvious that Karen Read drunkenly ran over O Keefe that no one else was viewed as a suspect, nor should they have been. The blizzard conditions made it very difficult to properly investigate the crime scene and the police did the best that they could under the circumstances. It is this contemptible conspiracy narrative that is disrespectful to O Keefe.
Thank goodness for Kevin ~ he actually pays attention☆
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These taillights aren’t fragile pieces of old China. This “expert” saying taillights are easy to break is just ridiculous. They are made out of very, durable poly plastic, and don’t just shader into 47 different pieces if they hit a human or another car.
I feel like when she hit him, he was slammed hard against another car or some other object then he slipped out and she slammed that car/object…also that kid Nick seems to just be a cop hater and grasping at anything to make them look bad 🤷♀️
She is innocent
@@maymaypooch yea right 🙄
What if John broke the taillight with his cocktail glass in anger after a fight with Karen? He could have been injured any time after her vehicle left.