Thoughts on the cyberbullying/August Ames story? Being as all of you Beautiful Bastards are part of a huge online community, I really would love to hear your perspective...
I agree with her body her choice but the way she was saying it was completely wrong. She didn't NEED to tell the whole internet to read. She should have known that people would of attacked her and called her out on it. Be careful what you put on the internet. Love you phil
Honestly this is why I don't use Twitter and why I generally don't comment on RUclips. People don't want to have a conversation or exchange of ideas They want to hurl abuse and threats at anyone who dares think differently than them
daniel king same. People can't just have a normal discussion about their different point of views without name calling. It's like just because we have different opinions on stuff doesn't mean we have to hate each other.
Well I don't use Twitter, but I highly disagree with your criticism of RUclips. There are TONS of people online that like to share ideas. All you have to do is look for them (it's not that hard), have the right mindset when reading comments, and avoid confrontational dialogue.
No one would have taken back what they said if she had not died. To me it sounded like an average "Celebrity Gets Dragged On Twitter" episode until she died.
August wasn't even coming from a place of ignorance, that's the thing. Gay and bisexual men make up 70% of HIV infections while being only 2% of the population. In addition, HIV can take months to show up in testing. That being said, RIP beautiful :(
i think her tweet is just her sharing her though about her agent that's not disclosing the fact about the male performer that would shoot a scene with her, she finds the fact herself and kinda pissed about it, since her policy is to not perform with performer with gay porn history, people being people took the message the wrong way, get offended, and unite in the so called "justified bullying" (bullying a person that percieved as bully, racist, etc) rest is a sad history
With the August Ames situation we need to look at the full context. First testing around HIV is not 100% so you can never be fully sure you are in the clear and when you look at it statistically, homosexual men have more chance than heterosexual men. It should also be pointed out the laws in California where a lot of adult films are made. They downgraded knowingly infecting someone with HIV from a felony to a misdemeanour. All this in context and you can fully understand her views if not wanting to risk it and refusing to do scenes with those kinds of actors. From all the messages I saw sent to her before her tragic conclusion, they weren't attempting to 'educate' her, they were simply virtue signalling and bullying her to show how much more 'enlightened' they were to her. These are the people that would say 'your body' your rules' but throw that out of the window when it means you can show how virtuous you are. They are hypocrites.
Actually, the context here you still miss, at least the part the completely justified it. Timeline -> She was going to do a shoot. She thought everything was legit. -> she gets information THE DAY BEFORE IT, RIGHT BEFORE (they usually know much sooner than this) that changes HER PERSONAL CHOICE. Being angered by the studio she thinks gambled with her late, lied to her and she then quit her dealing with when she dropped the scene. -> She is annoyed about it, and with her preference, made a twitter blast to whoever the next in line might be - of what the situation is, in case any late information - and angered at the agents rightfully so (you can see the "can't believe... agents... in her first post) - and since her preference she feels right or wrong on, they probably might want to know for their own safety, from her perspective. Yeah, I am greatly annoyed with how they have all demonized her in this, I think she is even right on about her follow up posts in defending why she even has that personal choice, about gay porn test standards not being what she wanted them to be.
Fish4Man61 Thank you for the additional information was not fully aware of this. so we have agents either willfully or simply not caring enough to inform her due to her preferences, the fellow adult performers and their fans lambasting and decrying her as a anti gay (despite her many lesbian scenes) over a prolonged period of time and with it impacting her career and her being known to suffer from depression. How could any of this end well?
I hear your argument, but is it not ironic to be on the internet and social media bashing when the same information you provided is there as well as the information that would have corrected her own thought process? She didn't mention any of the background info you just did. It is not the responsibility of the masses to educate ignorance ESPECIALLY on Twitter of all places. Her "preference" comments didn't come until after with all the hate she was receiving. That argument is moot IMO. You can argue that people online should be intelligent enough to know not to return attacks and simply debate issues. You can also argue people should be smart enough to know there are other ways you can educate the masses on issues about STD's, Bisexual porn risks, shitty management agencies etc. without attacking people involved in the 3 or using Twitter.
Rick Harris that's exactly what statistics communicate. They suggest a gamble. It's not 100% accurate predications, but it allows for taking safety measures.
I can believe that but don't you think that maybe, just maybe they weren't coming out in force like they did once she died? Maybe there weren't that many for her to find, nor were they nearly as aggressive.
REMOTEBEAR Fair enough. How about “pretty much everyone you meet in your day to day life” or something like that? Of course Buddhist Monks would take it to the extreme and treat everyone the same - even Hitler. But de be cray.
That's what pisses me off these days. You say 1 wrong(ly interpreted) word on the internet and everyone suddenly is your enemy. Even if you express a rational opinion there are many people these days that would argue against it and insult you for it just because their own feelings are hurt or their opinions about the world or morals are threatened. Just because not everyone thinks like you, just because you THINK someone is discriminating (without having any solid proof) doesn't mean you have to shame him(/her) into depression and suicide or ruin their career. And even if someone is discriminating and racist there are ways to tell them they are wrong in doing what they do WITHOUT throwing insults towards them.
Sneaky Dexter Yeah, people are just looking for trouble sometimes. Who knows why. I didn’t worry too much about it. He had a point, although it could have been expressed in a more moderate fashion. Your last point is very true - even when confronting someone who’s an asshole (as long and they’re not being actively violent towards you or others) there are ways to deal with them that don’t make you an asshole too.
How many of you have worked in blood banking? I have. If you, let's say had sex with someone in your private life and caught HIV, if you took a test the next day, it would NOT show up as positive on an HIV test. There's a reason there's questions about men having sex with men for blood donations - because some infections are too new to show up on a test. Just like if you got pregnant last week, your pregnancy test may still come back negative. There's a reason she mentioned people's personal lives and everyone who bullied her has no idea what they're talking about.
Okay but considering how the Adult industry works.... Is it possible for her to have sex with a man(Straight/clean) who had sex with another woman(straight/clean) and that woman had sex with a man(bisexual) and AIDS/HIV spread through that way?
Yes. But Is it NEARLY as likely? No. I feel like that comparison is like saying there is no reason to look both ways before crossing the street. "You should always look both ways before crossing the street, for your own personal safety." "Yeah, but isn't it still possible to get hit by a car even after looking both ways? So why bother?" There is a risk to everything you do in life. You can't expect to stay 100% safe, but you can take actions that statistically improve your odds, and as far as I'm concerned, THAT is the argument here.
But men and women, straight and gay all have similar infection ratios. Therefore the question should be "have you had sex in the past 30 days", not "have you EVER had sex with a man whilst being a man"
Pretty sure in that industry, it would be considered illegal if those men didn't disclose if they recently had sex like you say. The point of the industry is to make sure they took the precautions to be safe.
Reposting my comment I left on another video: As someone who saw all of this go down, here's my long rant: Gay man here and former performer (did it in my twink days). This whole thing pisses me off. After leaving the industry, I struggled with depression and suicidal attempts that were brought on by people I knew hounding me for doing it, claiming my life was going to be hell from there on out. It's not related to August's story, but suicide is common in the porn industry. I bring this up because backlash in mass can affect you if you struggle with depression, especially from friends (from what I gathered in her Twitter comments). Maybe because these morons labeled her homophobic is what really sent her off the edge. We see people go down in all forms of entertainment if they're labeled racist, sexist, homophobic, Nazis, transphobic, etc. Perhaps she thought this would negatively effect her career that she probably worked so hard to build. Furthermore, I don't think she was homophobic; she just didn't want to work with someone who potentially worked in bareback gay porn scenes. Having worked in gay porn, an innumerable amount of companies do bareback scenes and DO NOT test their models (don't listen to people who say they do--not all companies test for HIV/STDs). Considering the scenes I did, I was lucky enough to walk away with no infections. With that said, I'm not trying to bash anyone who has HIV or has a history of bareback porn. If someone feels uncomfortable having sex with someone due to things they did in their past, then they should be able to turn them down. But of course you have the will-be-outraged-by-anything mob hijacking the conversation and sending their hordes of sycophantic followers to harass her. I remember Jaxton Wheeler telling her to kill herself and then trying to justify what he said after finding out she died. And then Austin Wilde decides to lock his account after facing backlash. Fucking cowards. OH! And the gay porn blog Str8UpGayPorn published an article that only worsened the situation, so they share some culpability in this as well. I REALLY can't stand some figures in the LGBT community, but just know not all of us are sociopathic and wish ill on people who say things we may not like. I didn't know who August Ames before this was, but it's always a shame when someone takes their own life (allegedly, for now). I don't wish harm on anyone usually, but I hope those who were sending her death threats and escalating things have their careers horribly affected. Enough of my rant. Goodnight.
Thank you for sharing this it was incredible to read and I think this not only helped me understand this situation more but it even taught me some things thank you best of luck keep going strong
It was so shocking because phil hid the headline, instead of leading with the news he decided to tell it as a narrative as some more dumb gossip garbage THEN drop the suicide news without discussing any other factors
I hate that this is being left out of the story... Yes, anyone who works in straight porn has to have a 14-day current STD test. HOWEVER, the reason August Ames (as well as many if not MOST of the females in the adult industry) did not work with cross-over talent is because of higher RISK FACTORS. It's not about whether they still do gay porn, ect. HIV transmission rates are the highest among the gay male population. That's statistics, not stigma. It's a known fact in the adult industry that men make less money per scene, and many of the male talent who do gay porn also escort on the side to supplement income. (because of the availability of free porn = less money to budget per scene/less scenes/less money to pay talent) While it is TRUE that no performer knows what any performer is doing in their personal life, adult performers have to take the preventative measures for their own body. 99% of production companies will not let performers wear condoms, they have to do scenes bareback, and a 14-day STD test is all that is required. For this reason, many performers don't even have just a "no" list- they have a "yes" list (meaning they will NOT work with any talent who is not on their specific yes list)... because regardless of STD testing, if a performer had bareback sex 7 days ago and contracted HIV (or ANY STD), that will not show up until their next test. There are women escorts, of course, there are reckless women as well as men in the industry, but the fact is gay men (gay 4 pay included) have a higher % of contracting an incurable STD, and that's why August did not perform with them. Gay male escorts are not wearing condoms as frequently, and it's been explained that the gay side of the porn industry is much less rigid on their standards of testing. Ames didn't have it in her to argue with ignorant people, and unfortunately this is the result. We should all support each other instead of just assuming statistics = stigma. Show less REPLY
Shameless Sexuality she hated on gay porn actors even though she knew they got tested, she didn't have to hate on anyone, simple. She didn't have to be snarky at all, in fact if she was informative everyone would have been better off, but she just used negativity.
I understand the situation a little more now, though to be honest I feel like this is not a well-known fact and one can't blame people for thinking she's homophobic since the adult industry is a mystery to most due to taboos and such. I do wonder why no other actors/esses decided to step up for Ames though, in light of this information. EDIT: Oh and thank you, I forgot to say it when initially posting >_
The way I look at it, I really don't think it matters what she said or believed, and I don't think it matters whether people did or didn't have a problem with it. I think the real issue is the phenomenon of someone's comment on the internet going viral or getting a lot of attention and the internet just piling on the anger and hate towards that person. We on the internet are very reactionary, and I don't think we conceptualize that we are directing our anger towards a living breathing person. We assume that the person will never read our comment, so we just let off steam about something online, which in turn gets other people riled up and angry who tweet about it themselves, and things can very quickly blow up to a massive scale. If you are the person that the hate is being directed at and you are flooded with thousands of angry comments, it can feel like the whole world hates you. I don't think it's realistic to say we shouldn't respond to people we take issue with, but I think a good standard to set for ourselves is to consider whether we'd say our comment to the persons face, and whether we genuinely want to change someone's mind or just someone to hate.
Damn, what a shame... If I'm being honest hearing about August Ames' death is heartbreaking. Don't take this the wrong way but she did good work, and I'll miss her.
This August Ames story is complete bullshit and the fact that her death is a terrible tragedy is the only true part. If she hadn't killed herself, most people would have never shown any compassion or understanding towards her comments and would have only repudiated her as a hateful woman only to forget about her shortly after. Aside from that, it's very likely that bullying did contribute to her state of mind but people do not tend to kill themselves over online disputes without being in a previous state of severe mental distress.
I get where she is coming from then the issue escalated quickly and words where lost and she died.. It was really tragic and year you're right. I need to take this lesson to remind myself to be more.. understanding even w/ anonymity online coz words have impact irl...
Honestly, because of the backlash, she could have been blacklisted in the industry. I had a friend who was in the adult industry during the Charlie Sheen HIV scandal who used to date him. She said nice things about him to TMZ and then nobody would ever work with her again. You can get blacklisted in the adult industry for the littlest shit that goes public. It’s awful. It’s a life ruined for career adult film actors.
Indeed... feel free to have your references... but when you try to justify it and shame others for theirs using prejudiced stereotypes or BS crap.. that's where the problems lie
Inherently diseased, no. Statistically more likely to be a carrier, yes. www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics The Red cross doesn't want blood from gay men. Where's the angry Twitter storm?
Personally as a Christian, I would prefer that Jerusalem (both East and West) be a separate city-state like the vatican, but with a government structure like in Bosnia and Herzegovina, where the presidency is made up with a Christian, Jewish and Muslim member that rotate every couple of months and a legislature that represents Christian, Jewish and Muslim groups/faiths. Also for all foreign embassies to be located in Jerusalem, but said embassy would be for missions to Jerusalem, Palestine and Israel, that way all 3 nations could feel they have equal representation in this holy state
But it's nothing like the vatican if you've ever been to jerusalem you can clearly see it's a jewish israeli city with jewish cilture and the jewish language being spoken I think trump just acknowledged the reality cause I mean it's not like palestinians TRULY own ot right now.
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August Ames shared her opinion online, and a lot of people didn’t agree w/ it and responded. Fair enough. But they way those people kept piling on to “educate” her was disgusting. Is this where we are now? Are we going to cure wrong think by bombarding people we don’t agree w/ labeling, accusations, death threats, etc, instead of actually trying to have real conversations? It’s much easier to call someone a bigot or dismiss how they feel after you dehumanize them and treat them as nothing more but labels or opposition to your ideology. But can we stop? Can we not fall further into this and just treat each other like human beings?
rυshεεηa Nothing she said was wrong, it was actually scientifically and statistically accurate, regardless of how insecure and ignorant gay men feel about it.
+ArthaxtaDaVince777 I actually had no problem w/ anything she said b/c I’ve seen statistics about that too. I was just making the point that she would obviously get retaliation, since so many people immediately to things nowadays.
rυshεεηa It kept going because she kept responding. She should've been done after the "it's my choice" response. Other than that, if you put it on social media..... good luck.
+Jwda thefax Good point. I don’t think it’s necessary to react to everything. If I stand firm on something and people keep badgering me about it, then I’ll just ignore them after I’ve established that I’ll agree to disagree. Some people are different though. Some people want to argue their case until the other party gets it. Don’t know if that’s what August was doing, but I agree that it would’ve been better if she would’ve just ignored those people at some point, since they were ganging up on her.
The problem with online bullying is that no one regrets what they say unless someone takes their own lives but how hard is it really to take 5 seconds to think about what could happen if you send that message.
Same. When Phil brought up the news article I thought "Probably just a fake clickbait article". Then my mouth dropped when I found out she actually did kill herself.
Nearly everyone watches porn and still we are talking about it as if she would put shame on herself doing it. Appreciate what they are doing, otherwise you couldn't watch it.
there are real people who stopped doing porn and become a successful mother, EVERY suicide is tragic- just think of prostitutes like that: they actually have no control over their body, or they have no other option (gaining money ), no other option feeling joy, can you imagine that? - Most people in early years are so delicate to fall into these kind of rip offs, life rip offs. I see every prostitute as a victim of our society, becoming a slave of sexual pleasure,...life is just so much more than just that... I wish that every person could see that...We should stop making fools out of people who dedicated their life to become prostitutes- it shouldn't be like that-
Not as many people watch porn as apparently the internet commentators would have you suggest. Most of the women trapped in it, that ever get out, all say the same fucking thing - they were being raped, drugged, controlled, you name it. They were already either damaged when they brought in, and completely devastated afterwards. This woman was obviously murdered and made to look like a suicide just like so many others. These people on twitter were talking about how they didn't get to rape her to teach her a lesson which is what they meant by 'educate'.
The first story really did a job on my thought process, I know for a fact that I come hard at people online and in person many times without giving a second thought to how they might receive what I'm saying and without thought on what they might be going through. Phil this definitly was something I need to see! Thank you
Winterseyes, but did you tickle their butthole? No matter what you say to someone, if you didn't tickle their butthole than it wasn't that bad and they just over reacted.
Winterseyes, ohhh, you should try it. You think ppl give a reaction to some of the stuff you say? Try tickling their butthole and say the same thing and I bet you get even more of a reaction. Like when my wife tells me no for whatever I'm asking about at the moment, if I jab my fingers in her butt crack as I'm asking, after a few times, she yells yes at me. I'm like, honey, you should have lead with that, wanna smell my finger? She screams, I laugh, great times!!
People are forgetting that there is a lag time with these tests. Someone could be tested then go on another shoot and get infected then has a paper saying they’re cleared.
alice the problem is that these test cant detect hiv if you've been infected within the last 14 days this is coming from the centers for disease control and prevention...
That is also assuming they do literally nothing between the test and the shoot. That was her point. We don't know what they do in their private life and it is a risk.
She had every right to express her opinions about her fear mainly due to the fact that it was about a matter of personal safety, not hate as some had claimed.
I am an American student currently studying abroad in the United Arab Emirates. The more I talk to people here the more I know that the sentiment against Israel is less with them being Jewish and everything to do with how it’s creation harmed Palestinians and how Israel has continued to poorly treat them. On the Jerusalem topic: I wish they’d make it like the Vatican or DC, where it becomes it’s own self governed area not belonging to either state and is shared by all
Teagan Bowie It’s creation was from well before Christ walked the earth. It’s not like Israel sprung up out of nowhere a couple years ago. And as far as the treatment of each other, tell me, if Israel is such the aggressor, why do they have regular testing and drills for incoming mortars and other explosives from Palestine?
exactly. it should be under the un or something like that becuase both sides see that they "own" it. personally i just want the fighting and killing to stop and for all three religions to live together in peace.
You missed out on the fact that the holy sites are in east Jerusalem and when the country was created its was part of Jordan. The Arabs in the country Israel weren't angry at Jordan since they were still able to use east Jerusalem. Only after the 1967 war did Israel get east Jerusalem and it was acknowledged my the world that it was their land not only by right but also as a "spoil of war". The Palestinians can not come after the fact and claim it as heir own.
+Greatest Ever IDK if you are religious, or not but in God's eyes it is a sin to expose your body and/or having sex with men when you aren't married. August is in hell now, and yes think it's awful that everyone bullied her but remember if she hadn't entered the the porn industry none of this would've have happened. No I wasn't the one who bullied August since I don't watch porn.
The August Ames story is a symptom of what I feel is a much bigger problem of the internet. You say something someone else finds disagreeable, you are not a human being anymore to that other person. All empathy, compassion, and conscience is forfeit in the world condemnation and wrath. Those people like Bruce were only concerned about that damage they did to August Ames when it came back to (negatively) affect them.
WhiteWeaselGaming To put it bluntly it’s because people don’t actually care. They only care enough to get angry. They don’t care enough to say what about it was wrong. Her statement about gay actors was wrong because everyone is tested before shoots, so there isn’t any additional risk, but few said that and instead just called her a bigot. It feels like nobody uses or promotes critical thinking, and it’s killing people and ruining this country.
+Monkeysrock I agree. Sometimes I wish the whole internet had this feature: xkcd.com/481/ Because, seriously, people need to just slow down and think about what they are saying before they put it out there.
It's kind of sad how excited I got when I heard that the officer was held accountable for his actions. It's so rare that they actually get sentenced, and I expected him to say he was found not guilty. Finally someone is punished.
Tana Nari yeah, I guess I should rephrase that. When he's reporting on something, they are almost never held accountable. And if even they are punished, it's usually not enough.
It is with issues like these where I realized how toxic the internet can be. But, I realize I am part of that toxicity at times, and feel shame. Time to peace out.
Levi Brown yes he can. And yes he does. Because he talks about some really important stuff. A lot of it isn't talked about much. High profile stuff like the August ames is talked about a lot but some other stuff isnt
I'm an atheist but I believe that Jerusalem is a sacred place for many people and should remain a neutral ground, aka not the capital of a country. No one should have an ownership over this land because it is a holy ground and even if I'm an atheist, I can recognize that this is an important place historically and spiritually to many people.
Yea, were just going to have an Jewish ethnostate, but pretend the most holy site isn't the captital, because other cultists will get offended and violent. If your ground was that holy, why didn't you defend it better?
Agree, it should be a neutral ground where people go as they please, not being controlled by any kind of state.. it is a holy site, just let god protect it..
"I wanted to stay out of the drama too... you think I like my mentions blowing up with arguments?? NOW everyone has something to say, NOW everyone agrees with her, NOW everyone supports her but WHERE THE FUCK WHERE YOU when it was just me & her?? She needed you THEN. Not now." Noelle Easton. A pornstar that supported Mercedes' choice before she died
Your statement is not correct. Not everyone supports her. I don't. I left this comment on this video but i'll leave it here too. Yes it's her choice to have sex with who she wants but it's also her choice to be ignorant as fuck. It's entirely saddening she killed herself but some ignorance can't be just forgotten. This all started because she was ignorant to facts. I will never understand why people just let their emotions run them and not logically approach situations. Was she wrong to not have sex with someone? No not at all. But was she wrong in her logic as to why she didn't certainly. A death no matter how sad does not change the actions the person did. How all sides handled this was disgustingly saddening.
Polyothix yeah. Cuz not being able to educate someone is easier than to just tell her to educate herself. No matter the ignorance the person still had a long life and time to actually reflect on her words and ideas and what happens is she was bullied for thinking a way that’s not popular. She’s dead, but she was ignorant so... yeah. That’s bullshit to say honestly and she clearly could’ve learned from this. Not everyone thinks in a righteous and high moral way and of course the goal is to get everyone there. But bullying people to death is not the answer to the cause, it only hurts and prolongs the changes we seek
I completely agree about the bullying. It's just it seems some people paint her in gold as if she did nothing wrong after she killed herself. Death does not changes facts that she was ignorant and people just forgetting that ignorance stops true progression people need to know and remember that. Still saddening nonetheless.
That wasn't my statement it Was Noelle's, I also don't think she meant it literally when she said everyone supports her she was criticizing all the people who came out after she died and not before. I´m not saying that I support August Ames's statement (other than she has a choice in who she has sex with) however based on the information she had (Gay performers not following testing protocol) it's understandable. I also wouldn't say people are painting her in gold they're just not lampooning her for what she said because she made an uninformed decision not to perform with gay men that lead to excessive bullying she likely killed herself over. And people should forgive her ignorance because last time I checked being ignorant of a subject was not a crime and you are just as allowed to be ignorant as you are to be educated.
hes not guilty, he told the man multiple times to keep his hands where he can see them, instead he kept on reaching for his waist, it doesnt matter if he was begging, people would do anything to get out of situations, i have a long line of cops in my family and when i asked them about this situation and they saw it read the articles and they said it is a fucked up situation, but at the same time, if he would have listened and not moving his hands like he was he would have been alive today, hes not guilty for intentionally killing that man or doing it just to do it, he was doing his job and he did it fine, he follow protocol, yes there are allot of people out there right now that have hindsight about the situation about how it could have been handled differently, but all in all at the end of the day it was all about the heat of the moment, also reference to how the cop reacted, there is a video out there of about 4 police officers aiming at a man thats kneeling down on the street, all they tell him to do is to lay down and spread his arms, instead he reaches for his waistband and he gets shot by all 4, this cop that had shot philip gave him multiple chances to not reach for his waistband, shooting him on the second time he did it, its sad it really is, but you cant find this man guilty for following protocol.
That prick who wrote "The world is awaiting your apology or for you to swallow a cyanide pill. Either or we'll take it". Needs to be made an example of. Telling someone to commit suicide, regardless of how they put it, is unacceptable. As for August Ames comments, they certainly were not PC, but did the world really need to call her out as a homophobe because she was voicing her opinion of the industry and who she chooses to film with? I don't understand why as adults, we can't open a dialogue without starting such extremes. Why does one comment make you a homophobe, or a racist? If someone says something that you think is offensive, instead of jumping on them and losing it, try engaging in a discussion about why you think what they said was wrong, and ask them where they were coming from with the comment instead of going nuclear.
Andrew Considering the industry she was a part of and the fact that she was bisexual, I think this was just her choosing her partner. You can't force people to have sex, and with all of the Me Too movement recently this is extremely hypocritical for people to get angry about a woman deciding not to have sex.
Someone typed something on the internet guess my only option is to kill myself. Clearly she had some serious issues and if she couldn't take hate don't open yourself up to it. Keep your opinion to yourself
The whole August Ames situation is just a tell sign of this whole cultural upheaval we are going through right now. Yes, we have to progress culturally and end racism and bigotry, but people have preferences. If you choose to not have sex, become friends or have deeper social interactions with anyone because of any attribute that's your prerogative, you are entitled to it, and you should be able to express it also (as the people that are contrary to it, for whatever reasons). Moreover, saying to someone that they should kill themselves because they have a preference is just ridiculous.
It's not a matter of who has Jerusalem. Legally it belongs to Palestine, but Isreali occupying forces don't care about international law, nor does the U.S.
It seems that a lot of people don't understand that August Ames entire career was on the internet, so when she saw nothing but hate coming from her fans and from people that are in the industry she probably thought that her entire career (and life) was over. So when people say "wow she really killed herself because of some hateful tweets" or people that feel as if she made a dumb choice, please understand that there's more to it than just a tweet. Also If you're one of those people that seriously believes that she deserved the backlash she got just because she was being "homophobic" (even though she has been in many hard core lesbian scenes), then you deserve nothing less than to burn in hell.
cagedbird21, I don't believe it to be cyberbullying to state an albeit strong opinion about an entire group of people. Not to mention bullying requires intimidation (of a specific person). That was minor harassment at worst.
I mean I agree with a lot of what you said, but you have to understand, doing lesbian porn doesn't make you immune to being homophobic. That's like saying an asian guy can't be racist to black people because he's not white. No correlation.
I don't understand why america has to be the police for the world. can we please solve the problems in the country before poking around everywhere else?
isaac thill no it applied, but the way she put it was homophobic. She shouldn't have posted anything if she didn't want backlash... you can't blame those who criticized what she said for her actions.
its not at all homophobic. Its a clear fact that gays have a high statistical probability of contracting STDs. Facts arent any form of phobic. All you could say is she needed reassurance that the individual that she'd be performing with would be tested prior (Which i understand to be general practice in the industry now, but perhaps certain groups might have a spotty record with and/or your concern could be that they could contract a disease after the test but before performing with august). Even without a risk of disease transmission, if she doesnt want to have sex with gay guys, thats her choice. You could argue that its rude to publicly state that without any other reason other than preference, but regardless that should be her choice to make.
Exactly. Its an individuals choice on who they have sex with, and her choice to voice whatever she likes regarding that decision. The backlash was completely wrong and judgemental. I think Philip De explained that perfectly clearly and better than most. She "may" have been wrong about the risks she faced, but ultimately its her choice, and sharing the information to whomever would replace her is also nothing to complain about, thats sharing information for the next performer, who can then make their own judgement on what they do with their body. She wasn't bashing the gay community at all, and I feel the LGBT community is now becoming a vitriolic SJW group. How about people just let EVERYONE make their own choices on EVERYTHING, if your gay, great! if your straight, great!, if your lesbian, great! if your trans, great. I dont care and I dont understand the ones that do care what other people are doing, but to attack someone for their own choices is fucking BS.
There's a part of me Phil that wants to go back to the Phaze Banks story (which I ripped you for, in the nicest way possible), because man, the real news is depressing as shit.
I got more clear information and a better understanding of the Jerusalem issue from this, my regular news channel, than any other outlet. More and more I'm turning to independent news channels on the daily. You guys are the bomb diggity. Thank you for all the due diligence and research you guys do to bring these stories to us.
Wow. Heartbreaking story about August Ames. Almost unbelievable.. public figures should have access to resources that help with online bullying. I can't imagine what must have been going on in her life that comments from strangers affected her this much. I hope this has woken some people up.
i have people say worse to me at work you just move on or leave and go somewhere else no one forces someone to be online or tell their story there but that's just my opinion
exactly...she decided to share her opinion first. I don't understand why everyone is jumping on all the people who disagreed with her initial opinions.
Online Bullying doesnt exist... At all. You cant be bullied by someone who isnt there. I mean, just dont read it. If you know its going to be negative, Stay offline and dont read comments.
HappyChappy For the occasional thing yes but when it starts coming at you from every angle it can become overwhelming. Not everyone can just go off the grid when it gets to that point
Telling someone to fall in line and have sex with someone they don't want to have sex with is beyond fucked up. Its like emotional manipulation on a extreme level and everyone that attacked should be ashamed of themselves.
No one is telling her who to have sex with. It is her argument that made people angry. Also the irony on the people who attack the ones critiquing her statement.
Actually you guys are wrong and she was right. An HIV test doesn't show whether you have HIV right away. If a person was recently infected (1-2 month ago) and got tested, that person would show up as negative but can still potentially spread it.
david yang that is true, but its the same with both gay AND straight people though. And gay porn performers aren't always gay in their personal lives. Unless she knew the personal sex life of that performer, she had no right to make inferences about his life outside of work. She didn't need to say anything at all.
pajamagirl123 it's simply a fact that the gay community are more at risk when it comes to HIV. I'm ok with saying that because I want my gay brothers to be safe and healthy. The fact that people use this as ammunition for an "online war" that ended up with a member of the LGBT community killing themselves is depressing as hell.
Lets not forget that this took place in a state where knowingly transferring HIV/Aids is a misdemeanor. Cant say i blame her, or anyone, for not wanting to fuck in California anymore.
that's a good point, if you don't have any scientific knowledge at all. All of the adult actors are tested thoroughly by reputable companies. She was just ignorant to facts. That kind of stupidity just creates issues.
Considering the fact that HIV doesn't show up on screening immediately, I can't say she's being ignorant. I remember being specifically told when I was getting tested in between partners (as I always do, and I encourage everyone to do) that this is the case. Could EVERYONE had worded things a bit nicer though? Yes. Anyway, I think the whole Trump Jerusalem thing is just ridiculous. There wasn't really a need to do it. Clearly staying out of it has worked up until now. Why go against that and purposely anger everyone without any real reason to do so? We gain nothing. No one really gains anything. Just pointless.... ugh.
Miki Mochi I agree with you first point entirely, but things weren’t fine in the Middle East. That area has been fighting for millennia. Trump is trying to bite the bullet now and settle this reason for violence
Well, acting like HIV is exclusive to the gay community IS ignorant but she has every right to decide whether or not she is comfortable sleeping with certain people.
@Caleb: Fair enough, but I think Trump stepping in is causing more hate and anger than it's solving. :/ @Ellen: You're absolutely right, it's not exclusive to the gay community. But, it is much more prevalent among it and this is an unfortunate fact. To be fair though, if I were in her position I'd probably request not to do anal sex or have sex with people who do since the risk factor is mainly anal intercourse rather than orientation. (Or you know... I wouldn't be a porn star at all, because STDs are a huge fear of mine)
That statistic means nothing when you research how many straight males DO NOT get routinely tested for STDs. Also: motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nze7qb/hivs-biggest-moves-are-hetero-and-needle-free
I'm an atheist, and I think claiming Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel is a terrible mistake. Jerusalem is a holy place for so many religions, that claiming it for country that is a refuge for only one sends a message to the other religions that the U.S. doesn't veiw them as equal. Jerusalem should become a nationless state set aside for religious purposes. This way no singular religion has control of the region, and Jews, Christians, and Muslims can worship in their holy place without conflict.
Muslims lost fair and square. And who cares what Muslims think? The Ottoman empire lost a long time ago. It's time they accepted defeat and moved on already. Enabling them to act like spoiled rotten children doesn't do this much good. Their entire lifestyle is backwards. This is a consequence on refusing to join the rest of the world.
Probably with the August Ames story it SHOULD be a good cautionary tale about not being reactionary and having the patience to actually talk things out rather than telling someone online they should go kill themselves.... That said, lets not kid ourselves, this is the internet no one has learned anything from this.
I've never sat and stared at the clock for 2 hours waiting for Philip DeFranco to post a vid before... I get a feeling it isn't the last time. #DeFrancoWithdrawal lol
So i want to preface this that my family is Catholic, and that my Aunt married a Muslim from Syria. One of their daughters (a practicing Muslim) actually married a Jew (crazy ikr) and their son married a Palestinian. They all live in Illinois, so we don't see them a lot. But when we do see them the subject of Israel always comes up. Basically our wholes family we agrees that the fighting needs to stop because Jerusalem and the whole Levant is of great historical significance to Christians, Jews and Muslims. That is obviously easier said then done, and some kind of peace agreement needs to be reached. Basically we all suggest that the land be parceled as it stands today (Israel and then the Palestinians with the strip, west bank and heights) and that Jerusalem is free to all. I don't think this was a good move by Trump in terms of peacekeeping, but Jerusalem is definitely the capital of Israel. That would obviously be quite hard to do because of history, violence, etc. I don't think in my lifetime there will be a final decision. In my opinion I think that the Palestinians are more at fault for the hold up (because they usually are the attackers and won't agree to hardly any treaty) , but that doesn't come without blame going on the Israelis as well (because of mistreatment of general Muslims and Palestinians). Basically I just want the fighting to stop, it is pointless and will just lead to more hat between the groups.
Codguy I wish it were possible but if you put yourself in the Palestinians shoes they hate Israelis and(in their perspective) they are right to hate them. I support Israel and Trump was just doing what had already been decided back in 95'. We must pick a side and Israel's ideals align with ours.
Shade of winter He's maybe putting more emphasis on "Bully". That uppercase "B" really puts it across. Damn, I need to go rethink my life. There was something very beautiful in the way the uppercase was laid, just beautiful.
Sad thing is, having a softer touch in how we speak, and interact with each other gets labeled as being an "SJW", or "snowflake" anymore. I'm not saying there aren't SJW's, however not everyone you disagree with is one. We're at a stage of extremes. Where everyone on the side you don't agree with is "insert blanket insult ". It's led to plenty of people thinking having 0 empathy is normal. "Doesn't affect me personally, so who cares", or "they should be able to accept any criticism, or they're weak".
Are you saying reality is having no empathy for others who you've never met? If so, I feel sorry for you, I really do. People are people regardless of whether you know them or not. Nor should being an extremist in either side be considered reality either. If "reality" is having a moment where you see someone depressed, and choosing to shit on them even more, over offering to help them, I worry about how you see reality. No offense.
Also showing concern for others isn't being an SJW. SJW's are the people who say all men are bad, or everything is offensive. It's not standing up for a woman who just got punched in the face. Again, not seeing how that's "reality" either.
Fading0 Do you weep for Hitler ? Because thats what your logic thats being stated means. Do you feel sympathy for Stalin or Kim Jun Un ? Thats what being implied.
Oh wow, what a leap in logic there. So showing concern for strangers = weeping for Hitler. You do realize how extremely odd of a leap in logic that is right? I mean like, reaaaalllly stretching things. If you personally put having sympathy for a depressed person getting bullied to suicide on the same level as sympathy for Hitler...I just don't know what to say. That's fucked up....
Yes Phil. Thank you. "Her body, her choice". To anyone else: Bully behavior has lasting effects. Being attacked by thousands of people with terrible things said about you and too you? That's like a machine gun of shit. That poor girl. THINK, AND DON'T ADD to ANGER and HATE. we are losing too many people to hate.
Diego Shay Ignorant? Very! Hateful? Not so much. She was angry about their producers trying to trick her into “working” with someone she wasn’t comfortable working with. It didn’t seem like it was because she hates homosexuals. They do tend to have a higher chance of carrying HIV. That is a horrible fact that needs fixing. It’s Ignorant because everyone is usually tested first so this fact shouldn’t be a factor.. either way! It’s her choice. Though I have heard rumors of doctored medical records. That’s just speculation and shouldn’t be trusted until proven. Calling someone out on an ignorant/hateful tweets and being completely vicious to the point you tell someone to take a cyanide pill are two very different things. The first is productive. The second is toxic bullying. They should be ashamed.
August's only real mistake was making a public statement that was poorly worded. Her comment wasn't actually ignorant at all, her position was totally sound considering the circumstances. Is it disgusting to be told who should be allowed to sleep with you? Yes. Is it true some studios do not have mandatory STD testing? Yes. Do homosexual pornstars hold the highest percentage of STDs? Yes (sorry, that's just friction physics). Are these sort of tests slow and fairly unreliable? Yes. I think August's initial tweet was a little insensitive in its wording, but I also think she'd have figured that out and explained herself better if she'd been allowed to. She probably wrote it while she was presently upset over the situation, and so it came out harsher than it normally might. I think we can all sympathize with that. The problem is, in today's world your every mistake is chiseled in stone, and you'll never get the chance to correct it because a relentless herd of screaming, ignorant idealists will drown you out with their own definitions of the horrible person you must be. Then you're ONE human being bombarded with the hatred and negativity of TENS OF THOUSANDS.
That’s the problem I have with “progressive” movements. Even if a person isn’t hateful in their actions or thoughts, those in the movement do not tolerate anyone with their ideals in mind. Hence why so many people do not feel they belong in these movements and the movements struggle to gain support or have people leave them
I’m not saying other types of communities don’t do this. But I really do expect more from “progressive” movements. Change will happen but it takes time and bullying people to be part of your ideals will only prolong the change
"Hamas calls for a national day of rage on Friday" in which Hamas gathers to display a level of salt and anger only surpassed by the Overwatch community.
Hi Philip, Been watching you for what seems a decade or more. I love your fairness and transparency. Much love. As for Jerusalem decision. When you attack another country and you lose; whatever territory the other country wins should be theirs. The fact you lost 50 years ago means nothing. This keeps neighbouring countries from popping off at each other all the time. After 51 years on this Earth I can tell you that for as long as I can remember everyone knew that Jerusalem was and is the real capital of Israel. As for me think wasp with less $. Single mom that watched RUclips with her kids to spend time with them and also get a since of what they were taking in online. Today said kids are 27& 23.
Sad thing is, she tried to explain herself but the hate train was already on full-speed, making so much noise that nobody heard it. Is it really homophobia? Maybe, maybe not. (It's not). Did you actually got offended with the words she chose to use when expressing her unwillingness to have sex with a certain person? I didn't see any name-calling or hating. If anything she's spreading awareness (or maybe not). The point is, she didn't want to have sex with an individual. Her choice. Pressuring her on doing it is already fucked up. I get it, though. Some people just want to defend other people that they feel are under attack. It's a noble cause, admirable too. And maybe that's the reason why hating someone like Ames gets "cool" in the eyes of some. Without sufficient information, we blindly hate a person who we were informed (or misinformed) to have been behaving horribly, belittling other people. But it doesn't end there. Next time we know, that person (Ames) has become the new victim and the oppressors are those that targeted her. Then people will defend Ames and bully those who were just thinking they were defending other people. It's a vicious cycle. Let's adopt this principle: Instead of being Anti, be Pro. Because hate begets hate. Don't be for anti-war, be for Pro-peace. Don't be for anti-bullying, be for pro-compassion. (Damn this is getting too long.) I'm not saying stop defending people that you think are in peril. I'm saying do it in such a way that it doesn't create another victim. That's just it. Have a nice day.
That story escalated quickly. She shouldn't have broadcast that the person she was scheduled to perform with does gay scenes. But, she has the right to decide who she has sex with. It's ignorant as all hell, but she has that right
Jonathan The world is changing really fast, humans don't need to worry about getting eaten alive or hunted anymore(for the most part). It's now the strongest mentally who survive, not physically. Suicide is basically natural selection for humans.
If you watched the video you'd know that performers have to go through fairly rigorous testing to confirm they are disease free. Despite the fact that the guy has been vetted by this testing she still didn't want to, which is ignorant: she is ignoring the very same testing that she has to go through. Broadcasting the fact that he does gay scenes was a dick move
+Berenger Christy Not ignorant at all considering other actresses backed her up saying that the gay performers do not follow the same testing. Ignorant to immediately assume she is prejudiced and homophobic, yep now that is ignorant. You calling her reasons for not sleeping with him ignorant is you trying to dictate who she should let inside her body, do you understand how revolting that is?
I am so conflicted about the August Ames story...When I first read her comment, I got a homophobic vibe. But now I'm starting to see that it was just about what she would or wouldn't have....in her body! Which is her choice! The backlash she received was harsh, but if those people felt like she was harsh towards the gay community, then I can see how people would think that she deserved it. Overall, I believe there was a better way that people could've handled that. Even if you disagree with someone, you should talk to them more to fully understand what they were saying, and if you disagree, then find a way to inform them politely! Everyone has shit going on in their lives, and no one needs extra strain! Don't hate - educate! 💜💜💜💜💜 Also, that Beckham guy's apology was bullshit.
Her backstory is sad also, it's not just her being attacked by Wheeler or Beckham. She was molested when she was a child, and suffered a nasty mental illness.
When it comes to the Jerusalem issue, I find myself siding with the decision. (For background, I grew up in a moderately Christian household, but am currently skeptical to the idea of religion. I also consider myself a moderate/liberal) growing up in a Christian house hold and learning about history specifically in a religious connotation, you learn about the importance of Jerusalem for all three of the big religions, but I always felt like it meant the most to the Jewish faith. But putting aside that argument (because I don't see it as the end all reason) I look to the conflict between Israel and hamas in the past where I've seen hamas as the greater aggressor and even their response to this decision. A "day of rage". I find it completely unbelievable and lends credibility to my thinking that Israel would be better to have control over the city since they haven't really responded like this before. In addition, hamas currently doesn't allow people of the Jewish faith to visit holy sites on their side of Jerusalem like the temple mound where as the state of Israel has been much more open towards letting muslims and christians visit their places of worship.
I agree with you in part. Jerusalem should absolutely be recognized as the capitol of Israel, and many of the opponents of this move only oppose it because they hate Israelis. However, moving the embassy will unnecessarily inflame tensions, and doesn't help the peace process in the slightest. When conducting foreign policy, you should aim low. Concentrate on what you can achieve, rather than what you'd like to have happen - a lesson that Trump has clearly failed to learn.
I’m not all in on this BLM shit but the Walter Scott case is one of the only times that I think the cop was completely in the wrong and had absolutely no good reason to shoot him.
Outdoor LBH I really don't see why you can't look at a certain situation and say "yeah that cop was in the wrong" and still be supportive of law enforcement. everybody is playing it like it should be polarizing when it really shouldn't.
ryan williams Because that's not how all officers act? In that case why would anyone look at BLM and be supportive of them when groups of BLM supporters call for the death of cops, riot in the streets, destroy black businesses and neighborhoods? That's wrong, isn't it? Do you paint all groups of people with such a broad brush or only when it suits you?
August Ames also showed at many times that she was depressed. She would put up Instagram stories crying telling others about her depression and to try and help people who had depression. She also put up several tweets about it. This has to be addressed.
Kinda hard to believe August is dead...from what I saw of her (outside of sex, of course) she seemed like a really cool person to just hang around with. The world is at a loss today on 2 occasions: 1 for the departed Mercedes Grabowski and another for the people who chose to relinquish their humanity when they decided to bully her. I'm sorry Phil, I can't watch the rest of the video. I need to think about life and stuff.
That first story is disgusting. She had either a preference, had been misinformed, or a mix of the two. People harassed her to the point of suicide for wanting to do what she was comfortable with when it comes to the people who she is going to have sex with. How can people think their response to her was okay?
Im an atheist and the chaos demonstrates the actual harm faith can cause. This is a historical site and should be treated as such, Jerusalem should be neither countries capital. It would be best if it was a separate entity similar to the Vatican
This idea was on the table (but now..), and Phil didn't mention it, but Jerusalem has has been split between Jerusalem west for Palestine and Jerusalem East for Israel by the UN, that's its legal status currently even if Israel is effectively controling it rightt now juste like the west bank. That's why the rest of the world and the UN refuse to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital since it would sabotage the peace process and the two nation plan. It's a shame that the US media don't explain the political situation enough and just leave it in vague term, even Phil is taking the same road.
It has been many things historically, and like it or not, the Palestinians has been living there for over 1500 years and they have a say on the matter too, you can't just dimiss it and strip them of any right like it was nothing.
The Jewish people have maintained a well-documented, unbroken presence in Israel for well over 3,000 years, beginning in the 2nd millennium B.C.E., continuing under a long series of Jewish kingdoms and foreign rulers, and through to the modern State of Israel. Conquerors, diplomats, pilgrims and visitors throughout the millennia have left an abundance of references to the Jewish communities living there. Israel is filled with archaeological and historical sites, many of which testify to Jewish life over the centuries. Even the Muslim Qur’an refers to the Jewish people as the “Children of Israel”. The historical Jewish right to a homeland in Palestine was first recognized by the modern international community (and by Great Britain, which had gained control of the region from the Ottoman Empire during World War I) in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and the League of Nations Mandate of 1922. Both of these documents preceded the Nazi Holocaust by decades, thereby disproving more recent claims that Israel's creation was justified not by thousands of years of Jewish history, but rather only by the Holocaust.
Thoughts on the cyberbullying/August Ames story? Being as all of you Beautiful Bastards are part of a huge online community, I really would love to hear your perspective...
shits fucked
I love you phil
Philip DeFranco makes destroy d*ck December 200% sadder
Philip DeFranco all religions are wrong
I agree with her body her choice but the way she was saying it was completely wrong. She didn't NEED to tell the whole internet to read. She should have known that people would of attacked her and called her out on it. Be careful what you put on the internet. Love you phil
Honestly this is why I don't use Twitter and why I generally don't comment on RUclips. People don't want to have a conversation or exchange of ideas
They want to hurl abuse and threats at anyone who dares think differently than them
daniel king same. People can't just have a normal discussion about their different point of views without name calling. It's like just because we have different opinions on stuff doesn't mean we have to hate each other.
Well I don't use Twitter, but I highly disagree with your criticism of RUclips. There are TONS of people online that like to share ideas. All you have to do is look for them (it's not that hard), have the right mindset when reading comments, and avoid confrontational dialogue.
But she directly attacked the community first, not saying she deserved the hate, but don’t dish out what you can’t take
Shut up you poopie head.
Fuck you
I like how everyone spoke out after she died...
Because they're all virtue signalling retards who don't really care and just want attention? *NOOOO!!! Who would have thought??!*
Sadly, in many situations, no one takes things seriously until someone dies...
No one would have taken back what they said if she had not died. To me it sounded like an average "Celebrity Gets Dragged On Twitter" episode until she died.
Bowl Of Carrots it got more recognition and everyone thought it bed a thing of past in the next few days
It's depressing, but I think most people only realized the effect of their actions after there were irreversible consequences.
First time watching a video that had to do with August Ames without having to be on incognito mode. Gone too soon. RIP
KazuoTV yeah I know right? Holy shit. I was literally about to go fap but now I feel guilty.
Bruhhhhhhhh
BloodIn Wine I don't think so I mean she made those videos for us basically so I'm pretty she would want you to go HAM
This is so wrong but damn its funny hahahah
BloodIn Wine lmfao, "for her glory." You sir, win the internet today.
August wasn't even coming from a place of ignorance, that's the thing. Gay and bisexual men make up 70% of HIV infections while being only 2% of the population. In addition, HIV can take months to show up in testing. That being said, RIP beautiful :(
Yeah but she was not politically correct so facts, logic and reason are on subverted for the visceral response
You get out of here with your facts and common sense!
i think her tweet is just her sharing her though about her agent that's not disclosing the fact about the male performer that would shoot a scene with her, she finds the fact herself and kinda pissed about it, since her policy is to not perform with performer with gay porn history, people being people took the message the wrong way, get offended, and unite in the so called "justified bullying" (bullying a person that percieved as bully, racist, etc) rest is a sad history
Not to mention that law regarding transmission of HIV in California [her state at that time] had its punishment reduced from Felony to Misdemeanor.
With the August Ames situation we need to look at the full context. First testing around HIV is not 100% so you can never be fully sure you are in the clear and when you look at it statistically, homosexual men have more chance than heterosexual men. It should also be pointed out the laws in California where a lot of adult films are made. They downgraded knowingly infecting someone with HIV from a felony to a misdemeanour. All this in context and you can fully understand her views if not wanting to risk it and refusing to do scenes with those kinds of actors.
From all the messages I saw sent to her before her tragic conclusion, they weren't attempting to 'educate' her, they were simply virtue signalling and bullying her to show how much more 'enlightened' they were to her. These are the people that would say 'your body' your rules' but throw that out of the window when it means you can show how virtuous you are. They are hypocrites.
Actually, the context here you still miss, at least the part the completely justified it.
Timeline
-> She was going to do a shoot. She thought everything was legit.
-> she gets information THE DAY BEFORE IT, RIGHT BEFORE (they usually know much sooner than this) that changes HER PERSONAL CHOICE. Being angered by the studio she thinks gambled with her late, lied to her and she then quit her dealing with when she dropped the scene.
-> She is annoyed about it, and with her preference, made a twitter blast to whoever the next in line might be - of what the situation is, in case any late information - and angered at the agents rightfully so (you can see the "can't believe... agents... in her first post) - and since her preference she feels right or wrong on, they probably might want to know for their own safety, from her perspective.
Yeah, I am greatly annoyed with how they have all demonized her in this, I think she is even right on about her follow up posts in defending why she even has that personal choice, about gay porn test standards not being what she wanted them to be.
Fish4Man61 Thank you for the additional information was not fully aware of this.
so we have agents either willfully or simply not caring enough to inform her due to her preferences, the fellow adult performers and their fans lambasting and decrying her as a anti gay (despite her many lesbian scenes) over a prolonged period of time and with it impacting her career and her being known to suffer from depression. How could any of this end well?
Every pron star now a days does anal anyway. whats the big deal.
I hear your argument, but is it not ironic to be on the internet and social media bashing when the same information you provided is there as well as the information that would have corrected her own thought process? She didn't mention any of the background info you just did. It is not the responsibility of the masses to educate ignorance ESPECIALLY on Twitter of all places. Her "preference" comments didn't come until after with all the hate she was receiving. That argument is moot IMO. You can argue that people online should be intelligent enough to know not to return attacks and simply debate issues. You can also argue people should be smart enough to know there are other ways you can educate the masses on issues about STD's, Bisexual porn risks, shitty management agencies etc. without attacking people involved in the 3 or using Twitter.
Rick Harris that's exactly what statistics communicate. They suggest a gamble. It's not 100% accurate predications, but it allows for taking safety measures.
It's so easy to defend someone once they're dead. Where were these people before she killed herself?!
your right say if the nerd kid in a school kills him or herself and once everyone hears EVERYONE THINKS THEY KNEW THAT PERSON
Courtney Houston
They were there but she only looked at bad comments
The internet loves hypocrites.
I can believe that but don't you think that maybe, just maybe they weren't coming out in force like they did once she died? Maybe there weren't that many for her to find, nor were they nearly as aggressive.
SJW getting on her case like bullies, and now she's dead because of bullying
Wow. That first story took a turn.
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Cristiano messi uuuuuuh ok?
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle
same old nothing thanks - can’t take credit, as it’s attributed to the Buddha. :-)
REMOTEBEAR Fair enough. How about “pretty much everyone you meet in your day to day life” or something like that? Of course Buddhist Monks would take it to the extreme and treat everyone the same - even Hitler. But de be cray.
Rest in peace sister August ames
That's what pisses me off these days. You say 1 wrong(ly interpreted) word on the internet and everyone suddenly is your enemy. Even if you express a rational opinion there are many people these days that would argue against it and insult you for it just because their own feelings are hurt or their opinions about the world or morals are threatened. Just because not everyone thinks like you, just because you THINK someone is discriminating (without having any solid proof) doesn't mean you have to shame him(/her) into depression and suicide or ruin their career.
And even if someone is discriminating and racist there are ways to tell them they are wrong in doing what they do WITHOUT throwing insults towards them.
Sneaky Dexter Yeah, people are just looking for trouble sometimes. Who knows why. I didn’t worry too much about it. He had a point, although it could have been expressed in a more moderate fashion. Your last point is very true - even when confronting someone who’s an asshole (as long and they’re not being actively violent towards you or others) there are ways to deal with them that don’t make you an asshole too.
How many of you have worked in blood banking? I have. If you, let's say had sex with someone in your private life and caught HIV, if you took a test the next day, it would NOT show up as positive on an HIV test. There's a reason there's questions about men having sex with men for blood donations - because some infections are too new to show up on a test. Just like if you got pregnant last week, your pregnancy test may still come back negative.
There's a reason she mentioned people's personal lives and everyone who bullied her has no idea what they're talking about.
Okay but considering how the Adult industry works.... Is it possible for her to have sex with a man(Straight/clean) who had sex with another woman(straight/clean) and that woman had sex with a man(bisexual) and AIDS/HIV spread through that way?
Yes.
But Is it NEARLY as likely?
No.
I feel like that comparison is like saying there is no reason to look both ways before crossing the street.
"You should always look both ways before crossing the street, for your own personal safety."
"Yeah, but isn't it still possible to get hit by a car even after looking both ways? So why bother?"
There is a risk to everything you do in life. You can't expect to stay 100% safe, but you can take actions that statistically improve your odds, and as far as I'm concerned, THAT is the argument here.
But men and women, straight and gay all have similar infection ratios. Therefore the question should be "have you had sex in the past 30 days", not "have you EVER had sex with a man whilst being a man"
Mama Rora no they don't. Men who have sex with other men are the at risk group because they have the largest percentage rate for infection.
Pretty sure in that industry, it would be considered illegal if those men didn't disclose if they recently had sex like you say.
The point of the industry is to make sure they took the precautions to be safe.
Reposting my comment I left on another video:
As someone who saw all of this go down, here's my long rant:
Gay man here and former performer (did it in my twink days). This whole thing pisses me off. After leaving the industry, I struggled with depression and suicidal attempts that were brought on by people I knew hounding me for doing it, claiming my life was going to be hell from there on out. It's not related to August's story, but suicide is common in the porn industry. I bring this up because backlash in mass can affect you if you struggle with depression, especially from friends (from what I gathered in her Twitter comments). Maybe because these morons labeled her homophobic is what really sent her off the edge. We see people go down in all forms of entertainment if they're labeled racist, sexist, homophobic, Nazis, transphobic, etc. Perhaps she thought this would negatively effect her career that she probably worked so hard to build. Furthermore, I don't think she was homophobic; she just didn't want to work with someone who potentially worked in bareback gay porn scenes. Having worked in gay porn, an innumerable amount of companies do bareback scenes and DO NOT test their models (don't listen to people who say they do--not all companies test for HIV/STDs). Considering the scenes I did, I was lucky enough to walk away with no infections. With that said, I'm not trying to bash anyone who has HIV or has a history of bareback porn. If someone feels uncomfortable having sex with someone due to things they did in their past, then they should be able to turn them down. But of course you have the will-be-outraged-by-anything mob hijacking the conversation and sending their hordes of sycophantic followers to harass her. I remember Jaxton Wheeler telling her to kill herself and then trying to justify what he said after finding out she died. And then Austin Wilde decides to lock his account after facing backlash. Fucking cowards. OH! And the gay porn blog Str8UpGayPorn published an article that only worsened the situation, so they share some culpability in this as well. I REALLY can't stand some figures in the LGBT community, but just know not all of us are sociopathic and wish ill on people who say things we may not like.
I didn't know who August Ames before this was, but it's always a shame when someone takes their own life (allegedly, for now). I don't wish harm on anyone usually, but I hope those who were sending her death threats and escalating things have their careers horribly affected.
Enough of my rant. Goodnight.
Zombitious people need to read this
Thanks for the input and I hope your in a better place mentally. Glad you got out without getting infected.
Thank you for sharing this it was incredible to read and I think this not only helped me understand this situation more but it even taught me some things thank you best of luck keep going strong
You got some balls for saying that. Hope things are going good for you
Thumbs up! Phil please pin this!!!
Woah. First story made me feel slammed...
Yeah, I was totally not expecting the results.
Eric Cartman me too, I couldn't believe it
There we go one of those replies....^
It was so shocking because phil hid the headline, instead of leading with the news he decided to tell it as a narrative as some more dumb gossip garbage THEN drop the suicide news without discussing any other factors
It was jaw dropping. I literally dropped my jaw
After her death that argument just seems so pointless.. her passing is so incredibly sad
Iceberg after her death is when the argument is most necessary, looking at the mistakes of the path you can correct them on the future.
I hate that this is being left out of the story...
Yes, anyone who works in straight porn has to have a 14-day current STD test. HOWEVER, the reason August Ames (as well as many if not MOST of the females in the adult industry) did not work with cross-over talent is because of higher RISK FACTORS.
It's not about whether they still do gay porn, ect. HIV transmission rates are the highest among the gay male population. That's statistics, not stigma. It's a known fact in the adult industry that men make less money per scene, and many of the male talent who do gay porn also escort on the side to supplement income. (because of the availability of free porn = less money to budget per scene/less scenes/less money to pay talent)
While it is TRUE that no performer knows what any performer is doing in their personal life, adult performers have to take the preventative measures for their own body. 99% of production companies will not let performers wear condoms, they have to do scenes bareback, and a 14-day STD test is all that is required. For this reason, many performers don't even have just a "no" list- they have a "yes" list (meaning they will NOT work with any talent who is not on their specific yes list)... because regardless of STD testing, if a performer had bareback sex 7 days ago and contracted HIV (or ANY STD), that will not show up until their next test.
There are women escorts, of course, there are reckless women as well as men in the industry, but the fact is gay men (gay 4 pay included) have a higher % of contracting an incurable STD, and that's why August did not perform with them. Gay male escorts are not wearing condoms as frequently, and it's been explained that the gay side of the porn industry is much less rigid on their standards of testing.
Ames didn't have it in her to argue with ignorant people, and unfortunately this is the result.
We should all support each other instead of just assuming statistics = stigma.
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Shameless Sexuality still dont see why she killed herself though over this , im actually baffled 🤷🤷
Shameless Sexuality she hated on gay porn actors even though she knew they got tested, she didn't have to hate on anyone, simple. She didn't have to be snarky at all, in fact if she was informative everyone would have been better off, but she just used negativity.
Shameless Sexuality why has this not been voted up
Wow it's almost as if you didn't read my comment at all.
I understand the situation a little more now, though to be honest I feel like this is not a well-known fact and one can't blame people for thinking she's homophobic since the adult industry is a mystery to most due to taboos and such. I do wonder why no other actors/esses decided to step up for Ames though, in light of this information.
EDIT: Oh and thank you, I forgot to say it when initially posting >_
The way I look at it, I really don't think it matters what she said or believed, and I don't think it matters whether people did or didn't have a problem with it. I think the real issue is the phenomenon of someone's comment on the internet going viral or getting a lot of attention and the internet just piling on the anger and hate towards that person. We on the internet are very reactionary, and I don't think we conceptualize that we are directing our anger towards a living breathing person. We assume that the person will never read our comment, so we just let off steam about something online, which in turn gets other people riled up and angry who tweet about it themselves, and things can very quickly blow up to a massive scale. If you are the person that the hate is being directed at and you are flooded with thousands of angry comments, it can feel like the whole world hates you. I don't think it's realistic to say we shouldn't respond to people we take issue with, but I think a good standard to set for ourselves is to consider whether we'd say our comment to the persons face, and whether we genuinely want to change someone's mind or just someone to hate.
goodgirl140 You nailed it here. Great comment and summary.
Damn, what a shame... If I'm being honest hearing about August Ames' death is heartbreaking. Don't take this the wrong way but she did good work, and I'll miss her.
metal craze 😂
This August Ames story is complete bullshit and the fact that her death is a terrible tragedy is the only true part. If she hadn't killed herself, most people would have never shown any compassion or understanding towards her comments and would have only repudiated her as a hateful woman only to forget about her shortly after. Aside from that, it's very likely that bullying did contribute to her state of mind but people do not tend to kill themselves over online disputes without being in a previous state of severe mental distress.
Willy Milano 🙏
Willy Milano exactly all those people speaking up for her wouldn't have gave a shit
I don't think Willy Milano has ever been bullied.
I get where she is coming from then the issue escalated quickly and words where lost and she died.. It was really tragic and year you're right. I need to take this lesson to remind myself to be more.. understanding even w/ anonymity online coz words have impact irl...
Honestly, because of the backlash, she could have been blacklisted in the industry.
I had a friend who was in the adult industry during the Charlie Sheen HIV scandal who used to date him. She said nice things about him to TMZ and then nobody would ever work with her again.
You can get blacklisted in the adult industry for the littlest shit that goes public. It’s awful. It’s a life ruined for career adult film actors.
Nothing wrong with preference. Nothing.
I'm pretty sure people weren't calling her out just because of her preference.
Seems her preference was based on ignorance, which tends to get people's undies in a bunch.
Indeed... feel free to have your references... but when you try to justify it and shame others for theirs using prejudiced stereotypes or BS crap.. that's where the problems lie
lots of gay pornstars have hiv.
Inherently diseased, no. Statistically more likely to be a carrier, yes.
www.cdc.gov/hiv/group/msm/index.html
www.hiv.gov/hiv-basics/overview/data-and-trends/statistics
The Red cross doesn't want blood from gay men. Where's the angry Twitter storm?
Personally as a Christian, I would prefer that Jerusalem (both East and West) be a separate city-state like the vatican, but with a government structure like in Bosnia and Herzegovina, where the presidency is made up with a Christian, Jewish and Muslim member that rotate every couple of months and a legislature that represents Christian, Jewish and Muslim groups/faiths.
Also for all foreign embassies to be located in Jerusalem, but said embassy would be for missions to Jerusalem, Palestine and Israel, that way all 3 nations could feel they have equal representation in this holy state
That is a good idea xD
But it's nothing like the vatican if you've ever been to jerusalem you can clearly see it's a jewish israeli city with jewish cilture and the jewish language being spoken I think trump just acknowledged the reality cause I mean it's not like palestinians TRULY own ot right now.
You read my mind but unfortunately that's far too sensible for the world to even begin to consider these days.
I had a similar thought
Hey that's a great idea... Send it to them! I will sign that.
Even after all I’ve heard of bitcoin, I still don’t have the slightest clue as to what it is and how it works.
YES homie. Same haha.
There's a good program on netflix called Banking on Bitcoin.. It's a good inside to bitcoin, of course there is other great information out there.. Hope it helps..
The funny thing is the dollar makes less cents
they way it mechanically works is that it decentralizes the record keeping, and allows you to have some without personal info given. it basically takes what the banks do and puts the burden onto those who are willing to share their computing resources (mining) and rewards them with a little bit of the coin. this is pretty simplified explanation, but it should get the basic concept out.
August Ames shared her opinion online, and a lot of people didn’t agree w/ it and responded. Fair enough. But they way those people kept piling on to “educate” her was disgusting. Is this where we are now? Are we going to cure wrong think by bombarding people we don’t agree w/ labeling, accusations, death threats, etc, instead of actually trying to have real conversations? It’s much easier to call someone a bigot or dismiss how they feel after you dehumanize them and treat them as nothing more but labels or opposition to your ideology. But can we stop? Can we not fall further into this and just treat each other like human beings?
rυshεεηa Nothing she said was wrong, it was actually scientifically and statistically accurate, regardless of how insecure and ignorant gay men feel about it.
+ArthaxtaDaVince777 I actually had no problem w/ anything she said b/c I’ve seen statistics about that too. I was just making the point that she would obviously get retaliation, since so many people immediately to things nowadays.
rυshεεηa It kept going because she kept responding. She should've been done after the "it's my choice" response. Other than that, if you put it on social media..... good luck.
+Jwda thefax Good point. I don’t think it’s necessary to react to everything. If I stand firm on something and people keep badgering me about it, then I’ll just ignore them after I’ve established that I’ll agree to disagree. Some people are different though. Some people want to argue their case until the other party gets it. Don’t know if that’s what August was doing, but I agree that it would’ve been better if she would’ve just ignored those people at some point, since they were ganging up on her.
My question is how do she know what the guy did the night before she shot a scene with...that's the risk you take when you you'd porn.
YOUR BODY, YOUR CHOICE.
NO HATE
NO RACISM
NO SEXISM
JUST PREFERENCE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEALY good point my dude
The problem with online bullying is that no one regrets what they say unless someone takes their own lives but how hard is it really to take 5 seconds to think about what could happen if you send that message.
I was weirdly thrown off by the news of August dying. Really fucking depressing. RIP
Jeremy Zeeky I haven’t heard any news about her so when he said she was found dead I was actually shocked. Really sad honestly.
Same. When Phil brought up the news article I thought "Probably just a fake clickbait article". Then my mouth dropped when I found out she actually did kill herself.
She killed herself at 23 years old...
Goddammit. Wasted youth.
Nearly everyone watches porn and still we are talking about it as if she would put shame on herself doing it. Appreciate what they are doing, otherwise you couldn't watch it.
there are real people who stopped doing porn and become a successful mother, EVERY suicide is tragic- just think of prostitutes like that: they actually have no control over their body, or they have no other option (gaining money ), no other option feeling joy, can you imagine that? - Most people in early years are so delicate to fall into these kind of rip offs, life rip offs. I see every prostitute as a victim of our society, becoming a slave of sexual pleasure,...life is just so much more than just that... I wish that every person could see that...We should stop making fools out of people who dedicated their life to become prostitutes- it shouldn't be like that-
John Doe come on man she died
Not as many people watch porn as apparently the internet commentators would have you suggest. Most of the women trapped in it, that ever get out, all say the same fucking thing - they were being raped, drugged, controlled, you name it. They were already either damaged when they brought in, and completely devastated afterwards. This woman was obviously murdered and made to look like a suicide just like so many others. These people on twitter were talking about how they didn't get to rape her to teach her a lesson which is what they meant by 'educate'.
The August Ames story is a sad one...
Come on I know you can do better, that's too weak.
BlueValco I'm so sad no new videos of beat off
Who the f*** cares honestly
BlueValco obviously
Natalia Valentino you would never know the feeling of busting to a beautiful actress too bad she died kinda liked her
Rip August Ames 🙏❤️
The first story really did a job on my thought process, I know for a fact that I come hard at people online and in person many times without giving a second thought to how they might receive what I'm saying and without thought on what they might be going through. Phil this definitly was something I need to see! Thank you
Winterseyes, but did you tickle their butthole? No matter what you say to someone, if you didn't tickle their butthole than it wasn't that bad and they just over reacted.
LOL...And no, there was no tickling of any buttholes.
Winterseyes I think a lot of people need to
Winterseyes, ohhh, you should try it. You think ppl give a reaction to some of the stuff you say? Try tickling their butthole and say the same thing and I bet you get even more of a reaction. Like when my wife tells me no for whatever I'm asking about at the moment, if I jab my fingers in her butt crack as I'm asking, after a few times, she yells yes at me. I'm like, honey, you should have lead with that, wanna smell my finger? She screams, I laugh, great times!!
Johnna Dunston, what, tickle ppls buttholes? I agree 100% with that.
That Augest Ames story took a turn real quick
Only time that escalated quickly meme would apply. Nvm just the 9000th time. Shit's crazy since democracy.
Twitter bans conservatives but when SJWs get someone to kill themselves, where's the bans?
R.I.P August 😔
BakedAzn 101 AMEN!🙌
#dicksoutforAugust
It's BeeRay wow that chick was an year an 1/2 younger then me
People are forgetting that there is a lag time with these tests. Someone could be tested then go on another shoot and get infected then has a paper saying they’re cleared.
They aren't allowed to shoot until they've been cleared by the tests.... otherwise what would be the fucking point?
TB 2018 thats still highly ignorant because the same could be said about her.
alice the problem is that these test cant detect hiv if you've been infected within the last 14 days this is coming from the centers for disease control and prevention...
That is also assuming they do literally nothing between the test and the shoot. That was her point. We don't know what they do in their private life and it is a risk.
but that has nothing to do with gay actors, that can be applied to every adult actor
The people that told her to kill herself should be charged and put in jail
The people who continue to bark 'she deserved to die' for handing out factual public health reminder, deserve a special place in hell.
Attempted Suicide is not illegal. Telling someone to do something which isn't illegal can't be considered a crime.
Actually That could happen
At least I think so
Darius Hamilton Nah nigga I know the suicidal thought process. This is a last straw type ordeal, only therapy could've prevented it.
“your body your choice” until ppl get offended
Not what this is about lol, She can have preferences, but what she stated was not a preference, it was a fear
fear or not, her body her choice.
It had nothing to do with fear anthony it was about the disclosure of information since it posses higher risks.
She had every right to express her opinions about her fear mainly due to the fact that it was about a matter of personal safety, not hate as some had claimed.
MADMONEYMAN5000 Liberals aren't that bright. It probably takes 10000000 of them just to change one light bulb!
I am an American student currently studying abroad in the United Arab Emirates. The more I talk to people here the more I know that the sentiment against Israel is less with them being Jewish and everything to do with how it’s creation harmed Palestinians and how Israel has continued to poorly treat them. On the Jerusalem topic: I wish they’d make it like the Vatican or DC, where it becomes it’s own self governed area not belonging to either state and is shared by all
How come they didn't do that from the beginning?
Teagan Bowie It’s creation was from well before Christ walked the earth. It’s not like Israel sprung up out of nowhere a couple years ago. And as far as the treatment of each other, tell me, if Israel is such the aggressor, why do they have regular testing and drills for incoming mortars and other explosives from Palestine?
exactly. it should be under the un or something like that becuase both sides see that they "own" it. personally i just want the fighting and killing to stop and for all three religions to live together in peace.
You missed out on the fact that the holy sites are in east Jerusalem and when the country was created its was part of Jordan. The Arabs in the country Israel weren't angry at Jordan since they were still able to use east Jerusalem. Only after the 1967 war did Israel get east Jerusalem and it was acknowledged my the world that it was their land not only by right but also as a "spoil of war". The Palestinians can not come after the fact and claim it as heir own.
That's what I was thinking. They should've made it an independent country with democracy or something.
Rest In Peace.
Poor girl. Only 23 :(
Jose Fernandez It's halarious LOL
+Greatest Ever IDK if you are religious, or not but in God's eyes it is a sin to expose your body and/or having sex with men when you aren't married. August is in hell now, and yes think it's awful that everyone bullied her but remember if she hadn't entered the the porn industry none of this would've have happened. No I wasn't the one who bullied August since I don't watch porn.
BCB Gaming I get your point.
Jose Fernandez Who Cares?
Jose Fernandez , she was one of Canada's hottest 😞
The August Ames story is a symptom of what I feel is a much bigger problem of the internet. You say something someone else finds disagreeable, you are not a human being anymore to that other person. All empathy, compassion, and conscience is forfeit in the world condemnation and wrath. Those people like Bruce were only concerned about that damage they did to August Ames when it came back to (negatively) affect them.
WhiteWeaselGaming
To put it bluntly it’s because people don’t actually care. They only care enough to get angry. They don’t care enough to say what about it was wrong. Her statement about gay actors was wrong because everyone is tested before shoots, so there isn’t any additional risk, but few said that and instead just called her a bigot. It feels like nobody uses or promotes critical thinking, and it’s killing people and ruining this country.
WhiteWeaselGaming wait until it goes mainstream and finds its way off the internet into real life ! #thehappening
+Monkeysrock I agree. Sometimes I wish the whole internet had this feature: xkcd.com/481/ Because, seriously, people need to just slow down and think about what they are saying before they put it out there.
It's kind of sad how excited I got when I heard that the officer was held accountable for his actions. It's so rare that they actually get sentenced, and I expected him to say he was found not guilty. Finally someone is punished.
Most cops actually *do* get held accountable. It just doesn't make the news often when it happens.
Tana Nari yeah, I guess I should rephrase that. When he's reporting on something, they are almost never held accountable. And if even they are punished, it's usually not enough.
It is with issues like these where I realized how toxic the internet can be. But, I realize I am part of that toxicity at times, and feel shame. Time to peace out.
I agree the cyber bullying has got to stop.
Prime 3285 the what I do it is shutting off my computer or phone
what we all humans should do is shutting off THEIR computer
Bullying in general needs to STOP.
....And I've got the solution: THE OUTDOORS and with the expansion pack it comes with a soccer ball
genius
Phil, you gotta work on these headlines! You can't just title almost every video "We Need To Talk About..." or "Why People Are Freaking Out About..."
Levi Brown yes he can. And yes he does. Because he talks about some really important stuff. A lot of it isn't talked about much. High profile stuff like the August ames is talked about a lot but some other stuff isnt
Flamekraiken says the guy who can't tell sarcasm from normal speech. Aye no hate mate just messing
Seconded, variation is important.
But someone died tho
I'm an atheist but I believe that Jerusalem is a sacred place for many people and should remain a neutral ground, aka not the capital of a country. No one should have an ownership over this land because it is a holy ground and even if I'm an atheist, I can recognize that this is an important place historically and spiritually to many people.
Yea, were just going to have an Jewish ethnostate, but pretend the most holy site isn't the captital, because other cultists will get offended and violent. If your ground was that holy, why didn't you defend it better?
Agree, it should be a neutral ground where people go as they please, not being controlled by any kind of state.. it is a holy site, just let god protect it..
JAYDENDSIN Exactly
Making it a neutral place sounds good in theory, but as long as groups can lay claim to this place they will do so.
Makes the most sense and therefore will never happen unfortunately
"I wanted to stay out of the drama too... you think I like my mentions blowing up with arguments?? NOW everyone has something to say, NOW everyone agrees with her, NOW everyone supports her but WHERE THE FUCK WHERE YOU when it was just me & her?? She needed you THEN. Not now." Noelle Easton. A pornstar that supported Mercedes' choice before she died
Your statement is not correct. Not everyone supports her. I don't. I left this comment on this video but i'll leave it here too.
Yes it's her choice to have sex with who she wants but it's also her choice to be ignorant as fuck. It's entirely saddening she killed herself but some ignorance can't be just forgotten. This all started because she was ignorant to facts. I will never understand why people just let their emotions run them and not logically approach situations. Was she wrong to not have sex with someone? No not at all. But was she wrong in her logic as to why she didn't certainly. A death no matter how sad does not change the actions the person did. How all sides handled this was disgustingly saddening.
Obi Wan Jabroni Is... is there a reason why you are quoting her randomly?
Polyothix yeah. Cuz not being able to educate someone is easier than to just tell her to educate herself. No matter the ignorance the person still had a long life and time to actually reflect on her words and ideas and what happens is she was bullied for thinking a way that’s not popular. She’s dead, but she was ignorant so... yeah. That’s bullshit to say honestly and she clearly could’ve learned from this. Not everyone thinks in a righteous and high moral way and of course the goal is to get everyone there. But bullying people to death is not the answer to the cause, it only hurts and prolongs the changes we seek
I completely agree about the bullying. It's just it seems some people paint her in gold as if she did nothing wrong after she killed herself. Death does not changes facts that she was ignorant and people just forgetting that ignorance stops true progression people need to know and remember that.
Still saddening nonetheless.
That wasn't my statement it Was Noelle's, I also don't think she meant it literally when she said everyone supports her she was criticizing all the people who came out after she died and not before. I´m not saying that I support August Ames's statement (other than she has a choice in who she has sex with) however based on the information she had (Gay performers not following testing protocol) it's understandable.
I also wouldn't say people are painting her in gold they're just not lampooning her for what she said because she made an uninformed decision not to perform with gay men that lead to excessive bullying she likely killed herself over.
And people should forgive her ignorance because last time I checked being ignorant of a subject was not a crime and you are just as allowed to be ignorant as you are to be educated.
If your statement as a police officer doesn't match the video you should lose your job! There must be honestly and grace in the police force!
Bro wtf I was not expecting the story to go that far (August).
I know right holy crap
Everyone is quick to change their opinion when someone’s life is gone. Sad.
how is that sad?? what a dumb comment.
Acctually not many of the people who bullied her did change there minds. Alot of responses were about how she needed to be educated!
Shiloh Bowen not to come off as heartless, but the fact that she's dead now doesn't make her less ignorant.
How is she ignorant?
Jake Davids Your comment is a perfect example of the saying. " Better to let people think you're a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"
i have friends who are getting $100 in bitcoin and already quoting the wolf of wall street.
When people like that are buying the real Wolves sell 😎
xKarma _ LMAO
It would be smart to wait for it to crash. Don't invest now.
xKarma _
Sell me this pen 😏
Philip u have to talk about the cop Philip Brailsford who has maliciously executed a man crawling for his life and he walks free.
Vladimir PutinYarbutt Saw that video recently and was shocked, but it happened in Jan. 2016
Shut up
The Not Guilty verdict just happened on Dec. 7th though.
hes not guilty, he told the man multiple times to keep his hands where he can see them, instead he kept on reaching for his waist, it doesnt matter if he was begging, people would do anything to get out of situations, i have a long line of cops in my family and when i asked them about this situation and they saw it read the articles and they said it is a fucked up situation, but at the same time, if he would have listened and not moving his hands like he was he would have been alive today, hes not guilty for intentionally killing that man or doing it just to do it, he was doing his job and he did it fine, he follow protocol, yes there are allot of people out there right now that have hindsight about the situation about how it could have been handled differently, but all in all at the end of the day it was all about the heat of the moment, also reference to how the cop reacted, there is a video out there of about 4 police officers aiming at a man thats kneeling down on the street, all they tell him to do is to lay down and spread his arms, instead he reaches for his waistband and he gets shot by all 4, this cop that had shot philip gave him multiple chances to not reach for his waistband, shooting him on the second time he did it, its sad it really is, but you cant find this man guilty for following protocol.
Your name 👌
That prick who wrote "The world is awaiting your apology or for you to swallow a cyanide pill. Either or we'll take it". Needs to be made an example of. Telling someone to commit suicide, regardless of how they put it, is unacceptable. As for August Ames comments, they certainly were not PC, but did the world really need to call her out as a homophobe because she was voicing her opinion of the industry and who she chooses to film with? I don't understand why as adults, we can't open a dialogue without starting such extremes. Why does one comment make you a homophobe, or a racist? If someone says something that you think is offensive, instead of jumping on them and losing it, try engaging in a discussion about why you think what they said was wrong, and ask them where they were coming from with the comment instead of going nuclear.
Andrew
You can start a conversation and not say something too offensive, though.
Andrew I read somewhere that he’s being blacklisted so there’s that
Andrew Considering the industry she was a part of and the fact that she was bisexual, I think this was just her choosing her partner. You can't force people to have sex, and with all of the Me Too movement recently this is extremely hypocritical for people to get angry about a woman deciding not to have sex.
Amen brother.
Someone typed something on the internet guess my only option is to kill myself. Clearly she had some serious issues and if she couldn't take hate don't open yourself up to it. Keep your opinion to yourself
The whole August Ames situation is just a tell sign of this whole cultural upheaval we are going through right now.
Yes, we have to progress culturally and end racism and bigotry, but people have preferences. If you choose to not have sex, become friends or have deeper social interactions with anyone because of any attribute that's your prerogative, you are entitled to it, and you should be able to express it also (as the people that are contrary to it, for whatever reasons).
Moreover, saying to someone that they should kill themselves because they have a preference is just ridiculous.
D Andrade thank you! this gives me comfort, im so confused.
D Andrade it's a Muslim land
D Andrade preach but the echo chambers will never understand that
you're more than welcome. I just think we can't annihilate individuality and freedom of choice in the name of progressiveness.
It wasn't homophobic.
It was disease-phobic.
And not just any disease. A disease her particular line of work is especially susceptible to.
Make them play Rock Paper Scissors for Jerusalem
It's not a matter of who has Jerusalem. Legally it belongs to Palestine, but Isreali occupying forces don't care about international law, nor does the U.S.
Aby Shadid true
Aby Shadid Look up "what's the capital of Jerusalem" on Google...
Aby Shadid legally to who? Lol Palestine doesn't own jack.
I love the ‘wake up sheeple’ pillow in the background for this show.
It seems that a lot of people don't understand that August Ames entire career was on the internet, so when she saw nothing but hate coming from her fans and from people that are in the industry she probably thought that her entire career (and life) was over. So when people say "wow she really killed herself because of some hateful tweets" or people that feel as if she made a dumb choice, please understand that there's more to it than just a tweet.
Also If you're one of those people that seriously believes that she deserved the backlash she got just because she was being "homophobic" (even though she has been in many hard core lesbian scenes), then you deserve nothing less than to burn in hell.
That's hypocritical of you. Didn't she kill herself from cyber bulling, yet you do the same? People make no sense to me.
cagedbird21, I don't believe it to be cyberbullying to state an albeit strong opinion about an entire group of people.
Not to mention bullying requires intimidation (of a specific person). That was minor harassment at worst.
Mike C Think she's referring to the burn in hell part. Kinda over the top, dunno if I'd call it bullying though. It's more defensive than offensive.
I mean I agree with a lot of what you said, but you have to understand, doing lesbian porn doesn't make you immune to being homophobic. That's like saying an asian guy can't be racist to black people because he's not white. No correlation.
cagedbird21 how is he doing the same? lol you sound hella suspect, did you bully her also?
I bet that guy that told her to take a cyanide pill feels bad af
Josh Honore he doesn't
Jason you checked?
Why would he feel bad on someone he wanted dead?
Josh Honore He got what he wanted.
he obviously didnt mean it
Wtf that came quick: Quotation, Quotation, Quotation, she is dead.
I don't understand why america has to be the police for the world. can we please solve the problems in the country before poking around everywhere else?
Because it allows us to get Oil
Thank Roosevelt for that. I honestly doubt the world cares of rights, money talks.
Because we have a bunch of psychopaths as elected officials. We have to change the way we do politics and what we expect from our representatives.
Hol’ up, ITS SNOWING OUT HERE IN TEXAS FAM
_chris.luna_ same everyone freaked out where I am
Really? It's on the way to South Carolina then lol
I'm in Texas and its just cold -_-
Ya I’m in San Marcos and it snowed like 5 inches!!
SNOW SNOW SNOW. Everyone in Texas turned into a dog seeing snow for the first time.
her body, her choice. apparently that doesnt apply...
How does that not apply when she could have chose to leave the porn industry if she felt her preferences weren't respected?
Pavan Bopara So wanting a say in who you have sex with is an unpopular opinion?
isaac thill no it applied, but the way she put it was homophobic. She shouldn't have posted anything if she didn't want backlash... you can't blame those who criticized what she said for her actions.
its not at all homophobic. Its a clear fact that gays have a high statistical probability of contracting STDs. Facts arent any form of phobic. All you could say is she needed reassurance that the individual that she'd be performing with would be tested prior (Which i understand to be general practice in the industry now, but perhaps certain groups might have a spotty record with and/or your concern could be that they could contract a disease after the test but before performing with august). Even without a risk of disease transmission, if she doesnt want to have sex with gay guys, thats her choice. You could argue that its rude to publicly state that without any other reason other than preference, but regardless that should be her choice to make.
Exactly. Its an individuals choice on who they have sex with, and her choice to voice whatever she likes regarding that decision. The backlash was completely wrong and judgemental. I think Philip De explained that perfectly clearly and better than most. She "may" have been wrong about the risks she faced, but ultimately its her choice, and sharing the information to whomever would replace her is also nothing to complain about, thats sharing information for the next performer, who can then make their own judgement on what they do with their body. She wasn't bashing the gay community at all, and I feel the LGBT community is now becoming a vitriolic SJW group. How about people just let EVERYONE make their own choices on EVERYTHING, if your gay, great! if your straight, great!, if your lesbian, great! if your trans, great. I dont care and I dont understand the ones that do care what other people are doing, but to attack someone for their own choices is fucking BS.
There's a part of me Phil that wants to go back to the Phaze Banks story (which I ripped you for, in the nicest way possible), because man, the real news is depressing as shit.
Phaze
please tell me what happen.
Somebody set up us the bomb
CaptainMcAwesomepan care to explain what happened just in case Phil doesn’t go over it in the future
*FaZe
I got more clear information and a better understanding of the Jerusalem issue from this, my regular news channel, than any other outlet. More and more I'm turning to independent news channels on the daily. You guys are the bomb diggity. Thank you for all the due diligence and research you guys do to bring these stories to us.
Wow. Heartbreaking story about August Ames. Almost unbelievable.. public figures should have access to resources that help with online bullying. I can't imagine what must have been going on in her life that comments from strangers affected her this much. I hope this has woken some people up.
i have people say worse to me at work you just move on or leave and go somewhere else no one forces someone to be online or tell their story there
but that's just my opinion
exactly...she decided to share her opinion first. I don't understand why everyone is jumping on all the people who disagreed with her initial opinions.
Online Bullying doesnt exist... At all. You cant be bullied by someone who isnt there. I mean, just dont read it. If you know its going to be negative, Stay offline and dont read comments.
HappyChappy For the occasional thing yes but when it starts coming at you from every angle it can become overwhelming. Not everyone can just go off the grid when it gets to that point
HappyChappy seen that tweet by Tyler the creator? That sums it up.
Telling someone to fall in line and have sex with someone they don't want to have sex with is beyond fucked up. Its like emotional manipulation on a extreme level and everyone that attacked should be ashamed of themselves.
No one is telling her who to have sex with. It is her argument that made people angry. Also the irony on the people who attack the ones critiquing her statement.
ERhammer It's a valid argument and people bullied her for it, attacking them is fine
Actually you guys are wrong and she was right. An HIV test doesn't show whether you have HIV right away. If a person was recently infected (1-2 month ago) and got tested, that person would show up as negative but can still potentially spread it.
david yang that is true, but its the same with both gay AND straight people though. And gay porn performers aren't always gay in their personal lives. Unless she knew the personal sex life of that performer, she had no right to make inferences about his life outside of work. She didn't need to say anything at all.
pajamagirl123 it's simply a fact that the gay community are more at risk when it comes to HIV. I'm ok with saying that because I want my gay brothers to be safe and healthy. The fact that people use this as ammunition for an "online war" that ended up with a member of the LGBT community killing themselves is depressing as hell.
Social justice at work.
I never realized how many people actually watch porn
Chad Caruso hahaha! Oh wait, you’re serious?
I'd bet money that the amount of people who have watched porn is probably close to 1 billion.
EVERYONE
More than that.
Chad Caruso i really common dude are you serious?
Wow didn’t know August Ames pass away :(
Rip August Ames..
How good does she suck?
Lets not forget that this took place in a state where knowingly transferring HIV/Aids is a misdemeanor. Cant say i blame her, or anyone, for not wanting to fuck in California anymore.
that's a good point, if you don't have any scientific knowledge at all. All of the adult actors are tested thoroughly by reputable companies. She was just ignorant to facts. That kind of stupidity just creates issues.
Considering the fact that HIV doesn't show up on screening immediately, I can't say she's being ignorant. I remember being specifically told when I was getting tested in between partners (as I always do, and I encourage everyone to do) that this is the case. Could EVERYONE had worded things a bit nicer though? Yes.
Anyway, I think the whole Trump Jerusalem thing is just ridiculous. There wasn't really a need to do it. Clearly staying out of it has worked up until now. Why go against that and purposely anger everyone without any real reason to do so? We gain nothing. No one really gains anything. Just pointless.... ugh.
Miki Mochi I agree with you first point entirely, but things weren’t fine in the Middle East. That area has been fighting for millennia. Trump is trying to bite the bullet now and settle this reason for violence
Well, acting like HIV is exclusive to the gay community IS ignorant but she has every right to decide whether or not she is comfortable sleeping with certain people.
@Caleb: Fair enough, but I think Trump stepping in is causing more hate and anger than it's solving. :/
@Ellen: You're absolutely right, it's not exclusive to the gay community. But, it is much more prevalent among it and this is an unfortunate fact. To be fair though, if I were in her position I'd probably request not to do anal sex or have sex with people who do since the risk factor is mainly anal intercourse rather than orientation. (Or you know... I wouldn't be a porn star at all, because STDs are a huge fear of mine)
That statistic means nothing when you research how many straight males DO NOT get routinely tested for STDs. Also: motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/nze7qb/hivs-biggest-moves-are-hetero-and-needle-free
EXACTLY
Phil's part in RUclips rewind was the best...although you did not really have much competition
I'm an atheist, and I think claiming Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel is a terrible mistake. Jerusalem is a holy place for so many religions, that claiming it for country that is a refuge for only one sends a message to the other religions that the U.S. doesn't veiw them as equal.
Jerusalem should become a nationless state set aside for religious purposes. This way no singular religion has control of the region, and Jews, Christians, and Muslims can worship in their holy place without conflict.
Muslims lost fair and square. And who cares what Muslims think? The Ottoman empire lost a long time ago. It's time they accepted defeat and moved on already. Enabling them to act like spoiled rotten children doesn't do this much good. Their entire lifestyle is backwards. This is a consequence on refusing to join the rest of the world.
Nick Miller wow, another uneducated know it all, do you really think it’s that simple
Israel is a refuge for all three religions, just Christianity and Judaism are the dominant ones of the nation.
there was a period of time where the muslims did control Jerusalem just 70 years ago and there was still violence against isreal.
You must not understand this issue at all. This will bring peace to the middle east
Probably with the August Ames story it SHOULD be a good cautionary tale about not being reactionary and having the patience to actually talk things out rather than telling someone online they should go kill themselves.... That said, lets not kid ourselves, this is the internet no one has learned anything from this.
Thank you Mr Defranco
I've never sat and stared at the clock for 2 hours waiting for Philip DeFranco to post a vid before... I get a feeling it isn't the last time. #DeFrancoWithdrawal lol
HerpDerpityDude2 sad
My condolences to Ames's family.
Wildcard120 she was abused by her grandfather. The persons she was closest to was her husband and brother.
Adam Moreira Sorry to hear that. I am a survivor as well.
So i want to preface this that my family is Catholic, and that my Aunt married a Muslim from Syria. One of their daughters (a practicing Muslim) actually married a Jew (crazy ikr) and their son married a Palestinian. They all live in Illinois, so we don't see them a lot. But when we do see them the subject of Israel always comes up. Basically our wholes family we agrees that the fighting needs to stop because Jerusalem and the whole Levant is of great historical significance to Christians, Jews and Muslims. That is obviously easier said then done, and some kind of peace agreement needs to be reached. Basically we all suggest that the land be parceled as it stands today (Israel and then the Palestinians with the strip, west bank and heights) and that Jerusalem is free to all. I don't think this was a good move by Trump in terms of peacekeeping, but Jerusalem is definitely the capital of Israel. That would obviously be quite hard to do because of history, violence, etc. I don't think in my lifetime there will be a final decision. In my opinion I think that the Palestinians are more at fault for the hold up (because they usually are the attackers and won't agree to hardly any treaty) , but that doesn't come without blame going on the Israelis as well (because of mistreatment of general Muslims and Palestinians). Basically I just want the fighting to stop, it is pointless and will just lead to more hat between the groups.
Codguy, as an Israeli, I must say that you are making the most sense out of anyone here in the comments. Kudos. Peace.
Anton Adelson ?כן. מה אתה חושב
Codguy I wish it were possible but if you put yourself in the Palestinians shoes they hate Israelis and(in their perspective) they are right to hate them.
I support Israel and Trump was just doing what had already been decided back in 95'. We must pick a side and Israel's ideals align with ours.
Thanks for another great video Philip. Have a wonderful day
I REALLY hate Bullies
20 Seconds in Thailand bullies*
He’s a guy who is trying to retain his Native Tongue. He has an excuse!
Should make bullying kill itself.
Shade of winter He's maybe putting more emphasis on "Bully". That uppercase "B" really puts it across. Damn, I need to go rethink my life. There was something very beautiful in the way the uppercase was laid, just beautiful.
20 Seconds in Thailand Your channel name sounds like the name of a failed porn scene
I really didn't think he was gonna drop the death bomb like that
Jasmine Dossantos more like hang bomb
Jasmine Dossantos for real i was expecting something like she got fired but damn it sucks
Jasmine Dossantos I was shocked as well
Carlos Carrera she got fired all over her face multiple times
Sad thing is, having a softer touch in how we speak, and interact with each other gets labeled as being an "SJW", or "snowflake" anymore. I'm not saying there aren't SJW's, however not everyone you disagree with is one. We're at a stage of extremes. Where everyone on the side you don't agree with is "insert blanket insult ". It's led to plenty of people thinking having 0 empathy is normal. "Doesn't affect me personally, so who cares", or "they should be able to accept any criticism, or they're weak".
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That thought process is just common sense being seen by people who then call it heartless. Its reality and thats how reality works.
Are you saying reality is having no empathy for others who you've never met? If so, I feel sorry for you, I really do. People are people regardless of whether you know them or not. Nor should being an extremist in either side be considered reality either. If "reality" is having a moment where you see someone depressed, and choosing to shit on them even more, over offering to help them, I worry about how you see reality. No offense.
Also showing concern for others isn't being an SJW. SJW's are the people who say all men are bad, or everything is offensive. It's not standing up for a woman who just got punched in the face. Again, not seeing how that's "reality" either.
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Do you weep for Hitler ? Because thats what your logic thats being stated means. Do you feel sympathy for Stalin or Kim Jun Un ? Thats what being implied.
Oh wow, what a leap in logic there. So showing concern for strangers = weeping for Hitler. You do realize how extremely odd of a leap in logic that is right? I mean like, reaaaalllly stretching things. If you personally put having sympathy for a depressed person getting bullied to suicide on the same level as sympathy for Hitler...I just don't know what to say. That's fucked up....
Thank you for covering the August Ames story, and your commentary is spot on.
You mean it's not hitting eleventy million?
It's only eleventeen.
No, its at a buhmillion.
YGS
Eleventy=21
It’s hitting eleventy point five billion
Yes Phil. Thank you. "Her body, her choice". To anyone else: Bully behavior has lasting effects. Being attacked by thousands of people with terrible things said about you and too you? That's like a machine gun of shit. That poor girl. THINK, AND DON'T ADD to ANGER and HATE. we are losing too many people to hate.
JKL obviously the people telling her to kill herself and such should be condemned, but it's not hate to point out she was being shitty and homophobic
Her comment was hateful and ignorant, and needed to be called out. Nothing wrong with that.
I don't think the issue is her "choice" but the fact that she tweeted about that shit.
Stong wk
Diego Shay Ignorant? Very! Hateful? Not so much. She was angry about their producers trying to trick her into “working” with someone she wasn’t comfortable working with. It didn’t seem like it was because she hates homosexuals. They do tend to have a higher chance of carrying HIV. That is a horrible fact that needs fixing. It’s Ignorant because everyone is usually tested first so this fact shouldn’t be a factor.. either way! It’s her choice. Though I have heard rumors of doctored medical records. That’s just speculation and shouldn’t be trusted until proven.
Calling someone out on an ignorant/hateful tweets and being completely vicious to the point you tell someone to take a cyanide pill are two very different things. The first is productive. The second is toxic bullying. They should be ashamed.
Phil: "I think we're going to be fine."
Fire: "Hold my beer."
Bravelight Media shouldn't the fire hold it's own beer? Wouldn't it help fuel itself?
If only we could logic fires... If only...
Beer has nowhere near enough ethanol to catch fire.
Thanks for the great content and the Daly Phil in
August's only real mistake was making a public statement that was poorly worded. Her comment wasn't actually ignorant at all, her position was totally sound considering the circumstances. Is it disgusting to be told who should be allowed to sleep with you? Yes. Is it true some studios do not have mandatory STD testing? Yes. Do homosexual pornstars hold the highest percentage of STDs? Yes (sorry, that's just friction physics). Are these sort of tests slow and fairly unreliable? Yes.
I think August's initial tweet was a little insensitive in its wording, but I also think she'd have figured that out and explained herself better if she'd been allowed to. She probably wrote it while she was presently upset over the situation, and so it came out harsher than it normally might. I think we can all sympathize with that. The problem is, in today's world your every mistake is chiseled in stone, and you'll never get the chance to correct it because a relentless herd of screaming, ignorant idealists will drown you out with their own definitions of the horrible person you must be. Then you're ONE human being bombarded with the hatred and negativity of TENS OF THOUSANDS.
That’s the problem I have with “progressive” movements. Even if a person isn’t hateful in their actions or thoughts, those in the movement do not tolerate anyone with their ideals in mind. Hence why so many people do not feel they belong in these movements and the movements struggle to gain support or have people leave them
I’m not saying other types of communities don’t do this. But I really do expect more from “progressive” movements. Change will happen but it takes time and bullying people to be part of your ideals will only prolong the change
SJWism is dying a slow death... Which is why Trump is a runaway for 2020
liberalism is a mental ilness.
This is the result of liberalism. It makes people stupid.
It's a hive mind of an ideology, any disagreements is considered as hate and great offense.
"Hamas calls for a national day of rage on Friday" in which Hamas gathers to display a level of salt and anger only surpassed by the Overwatch community.
Cameron Fischer edit: league of legends community
Hi Philip,
Been watching you for what seems a decade or more. I love your fairness and transparency. Much love.
As for Jerusalem decision. When you attack another country and you lose; whatever territory the other country wins should be theirs. The fact you lost 50 years ago means nothing. This keeps neighbouring countries from popping off at each other all the time.
After 51 years on this Earth I can tell you that for as long as I can remember everyone knew that Jerusalem was and is the real capital of Israel.
As for me think wasp with less $. Single mom that watched RUclips with her kids to spend time with them and also get a since of what they were taking in online. Today said kids are 27& 23.
So the social justice community did exactly what they say they are against. Hypocrisy at it's finest.
Someone Special This is liberals we're talking about. They're not known for being very bright ;)
Sad thing is, she tried to explain herself but the hate train was already on full-speed, making so much noise that nobody heard it. Is it really homophobia? Maybe, maybe not. (It's not).
Did you actually got offended with the words she chose to use when expressing her unwillingness to have sex with a certain person? I didn't see any name-calling or hating. If anything she's spreading awareness (or maybe not). The point is, she didn't want to have sex with an individual. Her choice. Pressuring her on doing it is already fucked up.
I get it, though. Some people just want to defend other people that they feel are under attack. It's a noble cause, admirable too. And maybe that's the reason why hating someone like Ames gets "cool" in the eyes of some. Without sufficient information, we blindly hate a person who we were informed (or misinformed) to have been behaving horribly, belittling other people.
But it doesn't end there. Next time we know, that person (Ames) has become the new victim and the oppressors are those that targeted her. Then people will defend Ames and bully those who were just thinking they were defending other people. It's a vicious cycle.
Let's adopt this principle: Instead of being Anti, be Pro. Because hate begets hate. Don't be for anti-war, be for Pro-peace. Don't be for anti-bullying, be for pro-compassion. (Damn this is getting too long.)
I'm not saying stop defending people that you think are in peril. I'm saying do it in such a way that it doesn't create another victim.
That's just it. Have a nice day.
That story escalated quickly. She shouldn't have broadcast that the person she was scheduled to perform with does gay scenes. But, she has the right to decide who she has sex with. It's ignorant as all hell, but she has that right
Jonathan The world is changing really fast, humans don't need to worry about getting eaten alive or hunted anymore(for the most part). It's now the strongest mentally who survive, not physically. Suicide is basically natural selection for humans.
Berenger Christy
What exactly was ignorant about what she said? Do tell.
If you watched the video you'd know that performers have to go through fairly rigorous testing to confirm they are disease free. Despite the fact that the guy has been vetted by this testing she still didn't want to, which is ignorant: she is ignoring the very same testing that she has to go through. Broadcasting the fact that he does gay scenes was a dick move
+Berenger Christy Not ignorant at all considering other actresses backed her up saying that the gay performers do not follow the same testing. Ignorant to immediately assume she is prejudiced and homophobic, yep now that is ignorant. You calling her reasons for not sleeping with him ignorant is you trying to dictate who she should let inside her body, do you understand how revolting that is?
Thank you for talking about August Ames, I was very disappointed with the reactions to her death by certain porn stars
Very disappointed in asa Akira
I am so conflicted about the August Ames story...When I first read her comment, I got a homophobic vibe. But now I'm starting to see that it was just about what she would or wouldn't have....in her body! Which is her choice! The backlash she received was harsh, but if those people felt like she was harsh towards the gay community, then I can see how people would think that she deserved it. Overall, I believe there was a better way that people could've handled that. Even if you disagree with someone, you should talk to them more to fully understand what they were saying, and if you disagree, then find a way to inform them politely! Everyone has shit going on in their lives, and no one needs extra strain! Don't hate - educate!
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Also, that Beckham guy's apology was bullshit.
Her backstory is sad also, it's not just her being attacked by Wheeler or Beckham. She was molested when she was a child, and suffered a nasty mental illness.
Lol. “Opened Pandora’s box”. So the past centuries of terror has been peaceful according to Turkey’s Prime Minister?
Around 80 odd years actually, not centuries. I think the idea was that what happened before is nothing compared to what could potentially happen now.
That's a good one lolol
When it comes to the Jerusalem issue, I find myself siding with the decision. (For background, I grew up in a moderately Christian household, but am currently skeptical to the idea of religion. I also consider myself a moderate/liberal) growing up in a Christian house hold and learning about history specifically in a religious connotation, you learn about the importance of Jerusalem for all three of the big religions, but I always felt like it meant the most to the Jewish faith. But putting aside that argument (because I don't see it as the end all reason) I look to the conflict between Israel and hamas in the past where I've seen hamas as the greater aggressor and even their response to this decision. A "day of rage". I find it completely unbelievable and lends credibility to my thinking that Israel would be better to have control over the city since they haven't really responded like this before. In addition, hamas currently doesn't allow people of the Jewish faith to visit holy sites on their side of Jerusalem like the temple mound where as the state of Israel has been much more open towards letting muslims and christians visit their places of worship.
Ryan YES YES YES YES YES!
I agree with you in part. Jerusalem should absolutely be recognized as the capitol of Israel, and many of the opponents of this move only oppose it because they hate Israelis. However, moving the embassy will unnecessarily inflame tensions, and doesn't help the peace process in the slightest.
When conducting foreign policy, you should aim low. Concentrate on what you can achieve, rather than what you'd like to have happen - a lesson that Trump has clearly failed to learn.
I’m not all in on this BLM shit but the Walter Scott case is one of the only times that I think the cop was completely in the wrong and had absolutely no good reason to shoot him.
Outdoor LBH so what about the one where the cop ask the guy to take out his license and registration and shoots and when he starts to take it out
Outdoor LBH I really don't see why you can't look at a certain situation and say "yeah that cop was in the wrong" and still be supportive of law enforcement. everybody is playing it like it should be polarizing when it really shouldn't.
Outdoor LBH i see
Or when Eric Garner pleaded that he couldn't breathe...
ryan williams Because that's not how all officers act? In that case why would anyone look at BLM and be supportive of them when groups of BLM supporters call for the death of cops, riot in the streets, destroy black businesses and neighborhoods? That's wrong, isn't it?
Do you paint all groups of people with such a broad brush or only when it suits you?
August Ames also showed at many times that she was depressed. She would put up Instagram stories crying telling others about her depression and to try and help people who had depression. She also put up several tweets about it. This has to be addressed.
Kinda hard to believe August is dead...from what I saw of her (outside of sex, of course) she seemed like a really cool person to just hang around with. The world is at a loss today on 2 occasions: 1 for the departed Mercedes Grabowski and another for the people who chose to relinquish their humanity when they decided to bully her.
I'm sorry Phil, I can't watch the rest of the video. I need to think about life and stuff.
WTF? HAHAHA!
That first story is disgusting. She had either a preference, had been misinformed, or a mix of the two. People harassed her to the point of suicide for wanting to do what she was comfortable with when it comes to the people who she is going to have sex with. How can people think their response to her was okay?
What!? A politician trying to fulfill his campaign promises? What is this madness?
Im an atheist and the chaos demonstrates the actual harm faith can cause. This is a historical site and should be treated as such, Jerusalem should be neither countries capital. It would be best if it was a separate entity similar to the Vatican
This idea was on the table (but now..), and Phil didn't mention it, but Jerusalem has has been split between Jerusalem west for Palestine and Jerusalem East for Israel by the UN, that's its legal status currently even if Israel is effectively controling it rightt now juste like the west bank. That's why the rest of the world and the UN refuse to recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital since it would sabotage the peace process and the two nation plan. It's a shame that the US media don't explain the political situation enough and just leave it in vague term, even Phil is taking the same road.
It is historically Jewish and should belong to Israel.
It has been many things historically, and like it or not, the Palestinians has been living there for over 1500 years and they have a say on the matter too, you can't just dimiss it and strip them of any right like it was nothing.
Hmm. Atheistic regimes murdered the most history has ever seen during the 20th century. What kind of fairytale world do you live in?!
The Jewish people have maintained a well-documented, unbroken presence in Israel for well over 3,000 years, beginning in the 2nd millennium B.C.E., continuing under a long series of Jewish kingdoms and foreign rulers, and through to the modern State of Israel. Conquerors, diplomats, pilgrims and visitors throughout the millennia have left an abundance of references to the Jewish communities living there. Israel is filled with archaeological and historical sites, many of which testify to Jewish life over the centuries. Even the Muslim Qur’an refers to the Jewish people as the “Children of Israel”.
The historical Jewish right to a homeland in Palestine was first recognized by the modern international community (and by Great Britain, which had gained control of the region from the Ottoman Empire during World War I) in the Balfour Declaration of 1917 and the League of Nations Mandate of 1922. Both of these documents preceded the Nazi Holocaust by decades, thereby disproving more recent claims that Israel's creation was justified not by thousands of years of Jewish history, but rather only by the Holocaust.