Average Guy Hi-Fi - KEF R3 vs. Klipsch RP-600M “Demo”
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- This is not for critical listing!
You need to go listen to these speakers in person because they definitely sound different that than you iPad speakers;)
This is for entertainment purposes only.
Link to my review:
KEF
• KEF R3 Bookshelf Speak...
Artist - Adele
Album - 21
Song - Set Fire To The Rain
Amazon link:
www.amazon.com...
KEF R3 Final Thoughts -
These are very high build quality, beautiful sounding speakers.
In my small room, the Uni-Q seems to be just perfect. The soundstage is large and highs are articulate and refined. Excellent for home theater and music!
Not cheap but like I mentioned, I’d buy them again tomorrow, if I needed to.
Equipment Used -
CD Player - Oppo BDP-93
Preamp - Emotiva XDA-2
Amplifiers - Emotiva UPA-1 Qty. 2
Surge Protection- Panamax M5100-PM
Subscriber Count At The Time Of This Video - 7,476
Damn, I was expecting more of a difference tbh. The KEF midrange is better, but the Klipsch held its own tbh especially considering its price 👏
That’s exactly why I love this hobby! The KEFs are about 4x the price but I think most people would be surprised at just how close this shootout was.
The RP600M are quite impressive. Can’t wait to get my hands on the new series III.
KEF is the better speaker though:)
The Klipsch did a decent job but the KEF sounded SO much better. Much clearer and a much more full sound. I'm seriously considering getting the KEF's.
You can't evaluate a speaker on its FR alone. Compare soundstage width, height, depth, layering and imaging. The KEF absolutely destroy the Klispch, start to push the volume and the differences get greater. You're not going to get that holographic 3d soundstage that wraps your room with the Klispch.
@@mlykkelol I thought the kef sounded lean
@@marcgallant5270it's about the amp, I get 3d holographic imaging with klipsch rp600m ii
The clarity/midrange on the KEF crush the Klipsch. If using a subwoofer I would even pick the Sony SCSS5 over the Klipsch. (And I like Klipsch) The mids on those Klipsch are lacking. Nice job on the reviews, I enjoy your channel.
The SCSS5 is definitely one of the top audio bargains out! They punch waay above their weight class.
I love my RP600M’s but these R3’s are just spectacular.
Thanks for stopping by, my friend!
Could tell even on an IPhone.
I have the core series set up as 5.1 surround sound with a Snell ICS Sub 24 mk3 handling everything 100hz and below. It plays loud and clean, awesome for music and movies IMHO. (Receiver is a Denon AVR-S960H) The only thing I bought used was the Sub but it was mint. Quality used gear at a good price is rare around me, but I still have less than $1200 in everything. I really enjoy the reviews on budget and used gear, with a little high end thrown in for good measure. I need to here those KEF R3's in person :)
The KEFs are $2100 and the Klipsch is $500...how is comparing these two fair? The KEFs at 4 times the price should "crush" the Klipsch.
@@maddog3454 It’s not really about being fair, it’s about comparing bookshelf speakers to other bookshelf speakers.
I’ve also compared $200 Sony to $550 Klipsch speakers. I just make these videos so people out there can hear my thoughts on speakers they have some experience with to maybe some they don’t have any experience with.
The Sony speakers held up pretty well against the Klipsch, just like the Klipsch held up pretty well against these KEF.
Just thought people would like the comparison, that’s all.
Cheers!
I would love to see this comparison made to the Klipsch rp600m2. The midrange was greatly improved and the highs slightly tamed. I think it would be a very close comparison.
Yes, but the KEF have the R3 Meta now so that MII should be compared to the updated KEF's.
Klipsch and that dynamic top end to me just cannot be beat.
Looks like we have the same hobby, buying used audio gear at very low prices. Do you just demo this stuff and then resell it? I have a method you might try. Look for packages or gear that has been sitting for sale for close to a month. Offer them 60% of what they are asking. I like to say " If you haven't received a better offer for your XYZ I can afford to give you ... for it". This way they don't feel insulted by a low offer and since its been sitting for sale for a long time the answer is typically yes. The prices you are paying for your gear seem to be mostly fair market used value on older gear. What you want is exceptionally good deals! I get Ridiculously good deals all the time.
@Average Guy Hi-Fi - in other countries, the KEF R3 is 2x the price of the RP600M. For that matter, my KEF Q350s cost half that of my Klipsch RP 600M but everybody who has auditioned it, including me, preferred the KEF unanimously, both in a treated as well as untreated room. The moral of the story is, buy whichever speakers are cheaper in your respective countries.
Amplifiers that I've tried the Klipsch with were Marantz PM6006, Marantz SR6013, SMSL DA9. Crown XlS 1502 and Cambridge Audio CXA81. DACs used were Chord Mojo, Ifi Zen Dac, Topping E30 and RME ADI-2 FS (not to mention the inbuilt DACs of the aforementioned IAs). Cables (XLR, interconects and speaker cables) were Mogami or Audioquest. Source was Allo Digione Signature (for digital) and Rega Planar 1 (with Phono of PM6006 and Ifi Zen Phono). No matter the chain, the KEF Q350 is simply the better speaker for most genres.
Excellent post, thank you for sharing!
I’m fairly new to KEF but I have tons of Klipsch experience. These R3s are excellent speakers and with all the rave reviews on the Q350s, I have absolutely no doubts about your experience.
I hope to get my hands of Q350s, in the near future!
Wow, the strings just disappear when the klipsh come on.
I am big on Klipsch but these KEF rock
They have definitely made a fan out of me also. They aren’t cheap but once you’ve held and listened to them, you can definitely feel where the money went.
Thanks again for stopping by, my friend!
@@blazermdx My pleasure as always
definitely kef
I’m definitely with you! But then again, for the price difference, the KEF should win to most people’s ears.
Just a fun, non critical comparison. Thanks for watching!
The KEF sounds much more open, it makes the Klip sound like its playing inside of a box. KEF better bass too. I do like Klipsch though, good speakers for the money.
That’s a rich guy system in my hood. 60s Fisher reciever n 70s jbl,klipsch, Yamaha speakers is average here.
Well I’ve definitely had MANY of those systems also. The purchase of these KEF speakers was definitely a stretch for my financial situation but I also saved up about 4 months and sold off some other equipment I had laying around, to make it happen.
There’s also people out there that think this low-level equipment, when compared to their system. I’ll never be one of those guys but I still love the hobby:)
Now we have the mk ii of rp600m, the midrange is emphasized, the singer looks like a giant 😅
I have KEF R3's and my old Q350's... the both blow away my new HECO 700's in 3D soundstage, image, focus and smoothness. I have never heard a horn speaker that doesn't sound like a HORN speaker !!
There’s just something very special with these R3’s! I’ve never had such revealing speakers, that were also so easy to place.
I reluctantly replaced my Klipsch KL-650 with these R3’s and I’ve been very happy.
I’m a nut, so I still wish I had the 650’s laying around, but I don’t think they would get much play time.
I’ve always wanted to try the Q350’s
What are you powering your R3’s with?
@@blazermdx KEF R3s driven by a pair of Aegirs driven differential mode.with Freya+. Also use 300B Elekit, and Golden Tube 40 which uses 3 6L6's per side instead of 300B. But to be honest, My old Nakamichi SR4A (STASIS) Receiver also lays out a stunning.3D soundscape from some FM stations !
It's not a horn speaker. It's a titanium dome tweeter with a wave guide. Horn tweeters are in the heritage series.
I guess the final word for me is comparing speakers on a tiny little cell phone on a computer screen is never the way to audition speakers I love this song I played this song along with much other progressive rock from the speakers in person.
And lastly to be absolutely sure that the equipment that you're making the sound with identical pieces of equipment at exactly the same settings all the way around it is the only way to compare speakers in person.. everybody should know this.. I'm just saying
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theres no way the600m sounds like that. Its paired poorly.
I think using headphones for these kinds of things goes without saying.
Play some live rock or blues and the Klipsch will be much more competitive.
Love this edition of kef R series. I want some white R11
White R11’s are simply beautiful! There’s just something I really love about the gloss black and the matte trim, along with the black woofers that I also love.
In the right room though, I could definitely see myself going with white. Now if my poor checking account, would only agree with me:)
They're both overdriving the recording levels so much that it's impossible to really tell anything.
Curious as to what your ears took in when comparing the KEFS to the Klipsch? I am assuming they were volume leveled while playing? Thank you 👍
The KEF R3’s are definitely better built and what I would call, more refined than the 600Ms. The KEF highs are a little less fatiguing than the Klipsch and the KEF soundstage is much larger.
The R3’s are definitely the better speakers to my ears but are they worth 4x more than the 600Ms? That’s a quick only you can answer:)
@@blazermdx Thank you for your feedback, it was what I anticipated you to say. At 4 x the price of the Klipsch is difficult to justify for most I assume!!! Always curious as to a blindfolded audition of speakers to eliminate any aesthetic biases that one may have towards a speaker. I truely believe that can influence or help one speaker sound "Better" than the other !!
Do the kef fatigue? I’m thinking of getting these soon.
Kef is a warmer speaker mainly the q series can be a little bright but honestly klipsch rp series and kef q and r series shouldn't really fatigue unless they are super under powered or playing at very loud volumes when not broken in or high volumes with to low of a crossover both the klipsch and kef should be crossed at 100hz-120hz if you love loud volume only go lower if you listen at lower volumes
The you end up getting them.
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KEF experience was far way the best ones 💟☮️
A curva sonora é mais ampla e criando um palco sonoro com graves bem macios na Kef R3.
Uma disputa meio desigual que se traduz no preço de cada competidor.
It seems to me the Kef are 4 Ohm speakers which explains the huge rise in the volume. (I could be wrong)
They are 8 ohms
KEF. Good idea with the second vid for the music.
Yeah, they are a step above, no doubt about it!
I’m probably going to try to hire someone make me a few non copyrighted CDs in the future but having a separate video will have to do for now.
Plus, it doubles my video output. Haha
@@blazermdx Watched a few other videos lately and dunno how it has worked out for them but they seem to do vids with covers rather than originals. Maybe that's their way of skirting copyright?
Did maintain the same db level for both sets of speakers? If so, there is a notable difference. If not...well, hard to give an opinion.
Yes, I level matched them using my trusty digital meter.
Klipsch sounds more laid back, more enjoyable.
Klipschs are limited their sound is restrained and dried.
Stands?
C'è qualcosa che non quadra! Perché le kef r3 hanno un'efficienza enormemente più bassa rispetto a klipsh rp600m e qui sembra esattamente il contrario. Perché le klipsh rp600m hanno una presenza e una dinamica strabordante rispetto a kef, che predilige il dettaglio in gamma media. E qui si ha un'impressione opposta. Non c'è un solo ascolto comparativo di klipsh rp600m sul web che abbia un minimo riscontro con questo. Anche con diffusori di costo nettamente superiore. E soprattutto perché la mia esperienza comparativa diretta tra questi due diffusori mi dice di un ascolto completamente diverso da questo. C'è qualche fattore che non conosco e che ha determinato questo risultato. Che non ha alcun riscontro reale.
Klipscj better More cohesive
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Hey Nana!
KEF fuller sound, more bass weighty to the sound, vocal much more open ..
WTF you comparing r you lost your mind kef for $1600 vs $400 Klipsch? 😒👈
Why wouldn’t I compare them? The KEF R3’s are clearly the better speakers but they are also about 4 x the price. Now the question remains, are they worth 4 x the price to you?
This is supposed to be a fun hobby, which is exactly why I thought it would be a fun comparison. I get it though, my channel and videos aren’t going to be everyone’s cup of tea but so it’s a good thing there are so many options.
Cheers, my friend!
@@blazermdx shit dude, I'll always listen to a video or clip of speakers playing a home environment. I don't care what kinda speakers. You keeping videoing them I'll keep watching. Grab any speakers you can get your hands on lol. Work on getting a mic in the future that's made for this kinda chit. Right on, peace, and catch ya later ✌️👍
Kef
Most definitely! Just beautiful sounding, very well rounded
Klipsh 💯
I love it! We all have different ears and brains so I fully expected to hear some Klipsch votes.
I still love my RP’s!
R3
Your microphone is too close to the speakers.
It was about 6’ back and I level matched the speakers. I think I need to upgrade my microphone:/
The klipsh are so muffled, r3s all the way
Are the KEF BRIGHTER and more revealing? Sure. But that would get on my nerves over time!
The Klipsch are more than acceptable and seem to have more but less tight low end. I think
I'd like that. But, when all is said and done I'd probably be less fatigued by the ORIGINAL
Elac Debut B6s. Heck of a LOW end, huge sound stage, and mellow high end. Sound a lot bigger than they are. Not as defined up top as the KEF, of course. But, that KEF top end has never been something I've liked. Don't care for that metal dome HIGH.
Mettici un valvolare alle klipsch poi vedi chi suona meglio
KEF is really amazing gear.... it kills the Klipsh and so many other products.
I’ve been a die-hard Klipsch fan, for many, many years. I’m fairly new to KEF but I can tell you, these R3 are some of the best speakers I’ve ever owned.
This was a tad bit of an unfair comparison though, these KEF were about 3 - 4 x the cost of the 600M.
It was a very fun test though, especially for me personally. I just love comparing speakers💕
KEF is 100% better....(:
Hi sir from India. Poor man please help me.
Hey my friend! Not sure what help I can offer a fellow audio fan, that far away, but I truly wish you all the best!
Only help I can offer you from here, is to buy used and save up.
I hope you are well, my friend!
@@blazermdx give old amblefire sir. Sumal gift
WELL WHAT WOULD YOU EXPECT FROM.. YOU'RE COMPARING A $650 PAIR OF BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS WITH A PAIR OF BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS THAT SELL FOR $3,000 OR MORE IT IS EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT TO COMPARE SPEAKERS IN BOOKSHELF STYLE WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ALMOST A $2,500 DIFFERENCE IN PRICE.. IF YOU HAPPEN TO HIM THE MONEY WHICH WOULD BE ABOUT $7,500 FOR TWO PAIR OF THE R3 META.
THEN GO FOR IT I WOULD IF I HAD THOSE SORT OF FUNDS BUT I DON'T SO I SPEND AROUND SIXTEEN HUNDRED BUCKS MAYBE $2,000 FOR TWO PAIR OF THE KLIPSCH RP-600M MARK TWOS..
IT'S QUITE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD COMPARE SPEAKERS.. WITH BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS FROM TWO DIFFERENT MANUFACTURERS WITH SUCH AN EXTRAORDINARILY HIGH DIFFERENCE IN PRICE.. EITHER CHOICE WILL TELL YOU WHERE YOUR MONEY GOES IF YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE THAN $7,000 FOR TWO PAIR OF KEF R3 M E T A OR TWO PAIR OF KLIPSCH RP-600M MARK24 AROUND$1,400 US THEN DO IT SO.. EVERYTHING BOILS DOWN TO HOW MUCH MONEY YOU HAVE TO SPEND AND WHAT YOU CAN AFFORD.. THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT IS THE ABSOLUTE BOTTOM LINE.
AS AN EXAMPLE YOU WOULD NEVER EVER COMPARE A PAIR OF SONY S C S BOOKSHELF SPEAKERS AGAINST THE KLIPSCH RP-600M MARK TO EITHER.. THE PRICING DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO IS EXTRAORDINARY FAR APART IN BETWEEN THESE TWO BOOKSHELF SPEAKER SETUPS IN THE REASON WHY I MENTIONED BUYING TWO PAIR OF EITHER OF THESE TWO TYPES OF SPEAKERS IS THAT IT ALWAYS SOUNDS BETTER TO HAVE FOR SPEAKERS IN A ROOM THAN JUST ONE PAIR OF SPEAKERS.. THE MORE SPEAKERS THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY I LIKE IN A ROOM THE BETTER IT'LL SOUND MORE SURROUND MORE FULLNESS TO WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU'RE LISTENING TO THE MALL DIRECTIONS.. AND ALWAYS THE SOUND COME FROM ALL DIRECTIONS WHICH MEANS YOU ALWAYS NEED MORE THAN ONE PAIR SPEAKERS IN A ROOM..😊😊
These klipsch compete with other speakers in the multi thousand dollar range so I can see the point in the video. The R3 do seem to be better obviously, but how much of that can you get for just $400 with the klipsch? Maybe up to 90% ?