High agian. this IS the swiss seat. I can do it in two minutes. BTW your tape knot is called a warter knot. good vid. a swiss seat useing webbing is the safest harness for anyone who doesn't own their own. I do have to say that at first you were giving out wrong info, but now I'm giving you a thumbs up. So GOOD ONE.
The first way demonstrated with the addition of the knots on the leg loops is essentially what I learned at the Army's Northern Warfare Training Center.
Also known as a figure eight knot. That might help you find it! You do a quick knot on one end and then backtrack the untied end through the knot. easy once you see it.
the second harness not only will load the carabiner in three ways. it will strangulate as you put you weight on it (i´ve already used the 2º one for rappel), so it´s not so confortable and the conection point will get longer eventually. you can use steel carabiners (pref. delta shaped ones) that can be loaded that way. off course, in case of an emergency this can be useful. but if you´re in such a hurry, you´d be very unsafe. nice video, however...! remember! always triple check and be safe!
I got some webbing then tried to make the harness. I know how to tie a tape knot but I don't know how to tie it at the part you skipped, please respond.
Yeah, I've used the swiss seat for lengthy adventures, but I don't think I could use that second one for more than 10 seconds... I'd rather do a Dulfersitz, and distribute some of the pain to my collar bone. Good to have some brainstorming going on though. Thanks guys.
Water knot refers to many knots, including a tape knot and a fisherman's knot. Tape knot is more specific. Even more technically, it is an Overhand Follow Through Bend.
With the second hasty harness, if I had it set up for me, but had to put it on someone smaller, would the excess webbing interfere with the function or safety of the harness?
I rappel A LOT. I have always used a diaper harness. It works fine for me because i just keep the knot in the same spot.. But when taking newbies this seams alot easier.
Daniel Vigoa in general yes. But it depends a little bit at the weight of the person. When you aren't sure if the sling will hold it you can also take a big (47inch or bigger) climbing sling for building the harnes. But the more the person weights the more the sling will cut into the legs. and that hurts alot.
Learned the second hasty harness as the diaper harness. And yes (@Mark Ifi), sometimes you need a harness, but don't want to wear one all day, and you are carrying the webbing as part of your gear, since it can serve multiple purposes.
Good vid ! I have to disagree about the knot though. Square knots, being backed up, are superior to tape knots....in the sense that you can snug it around your waist. If it's not snugged around your waist, you could fall out of it if your upside down.
Senki207 No not even in an emergency. When you fall into this harnes it will strangulate your legs and may crush your balls. And when you use a sling like the one in the video it may would break at a fall. Also when you leadclimb the rope pulls most of the time downwards and harnesses like this aren't that tight that they hold on to your hips and when you fall they are not in the right position. These harnesses are only for emergency reppeling. So when you like to live on spend a few bucks on a climbingharness. They aren't that expensiv 👍
Senki207 for that you may could use it. But only when the climber doesn't fall more than maybe 4-5 meters (for example an indoor climbing wall) and is not heavier than you. And before you do that i recommend you to just sit in a harness like this for 1 or 2 minutes completely free because your weight will sit on a very small surface. And you shoud use a dynamic (Nylon not Dynema) sling that holds a minimum of 22 kN. But personaly i would recommend you to buy a cheap climbing harness for about 40 bucks or less. Or buy a used one which would be still more safe and comfortable for you and the climber. I don't think that nylon sling would break in case of a fall but it can hurt you very hard which can cause you to let go the breakend of the rope. So in general you could do it but i definetly don't recommend you to do it.
Rob Fern you can also tie a harnes out of a 47 (or something close to this number) inch climbing sling. But remember these harnesses are normaly for emergencys
Some things wrong with this video; 1. It’s called a water knot. 2. There are far easier ways to tie a harness that is almost the same thing but a lot safer and those videos can easily be found on RUclips by doing a search for webbing harness. 3. They might have lied to you, that webbing looks a little too thin to be real tubular webbing rated for life-support and I would not trust it without a proper CE or UIAA certification 4. If anything says climbing rated, it is not climbing rated. It needs the proper certifications. That’s something a company will add to increase sales but is not safe. 5. Any webbing or rope harness needs to be tightened extremely snug or it will stretch way too far under load. 6. That is not a hasty harness. 7. You learned this harness from animatedknots which is the worst place to learn how to tie knots. 8. That is not a Swiss seat. 9. You do not carry a Swiss seat pre-tied. It is a way to make a makeshift harness in an emergency when you do not have the appropriate gear and have not planned. 10. The Swiss seat is tied using rope. Not webbing. 11. I have never heard anyone call the Swiss seat comfortable. Huge black welts aren’t fun but in an emergency when you do not have the appropriate gear can be tolerated. 12. Making videos is fine, but please don’t make videos that can get someone killed without the appropriate training and certifications. Surviving one time with a particular strategy does not count.
It is generally not recommended to mark ropes and webbing, especially with permanent markers anywhere other than the very ends, as it is supposed to deteriorate the material.
Nylon has an A2 Excellence rating against xylene, the common chemical in permanent markers. Meaning it doesn't matter if you write on it or not. In general nylon is has a good resistance against most chemicals out there, making it so popular. This is a common misconception I've heard a lot in the military but no one ever knows exactly what they're talking about.
High agian. this IS the swiss seat. I can do it in two minutes. BTW your tape knot is called a warter knot. good vid. a swiss seat useing webbing is the safest harness for anyone who doesn't own their own. I do have to say that at first you were giving out wrong info, but now I'm giving you a thumbs up. So GOOD ONE.
The first way demonstrated with the addition of the knots on the leg loops is essentially what I learned at the Army's Northern Warfare Training Center.
The "Tape knot" and the "Water knot" are the same thing, you'll find multiple names for a lot of different knots.
Also known as a figure eight knot. That might help you find it! You do a quick knot on one end and then backtrack the untied end through the knot. easy once you see it.
tape knot is what he mentions in this video, but there are no videos on his channel that show/talk about the tape knot.
i like these fantasy situations, where you are really in a hurry to put a harness on.
Great vid! What's the name of the carabiner that are you using in the video?
Maybe you've found your answer in the past three years but maybe not, that looks lie an omega pacific screw gate.
the second harness not only will load the carabiner in three ways. it will strangulate as you put you weight on it (i´ve already used the 2º one for rappel), so it´s not so confortable and the conection point will get longer eventually. you can use steel carabiners (pref. delta shaped ones) that can be loaded that way. off course, in case of an emergency this can be useful. but if you´re in such a hurry, you´d be very unsafe. nice video, however...! remember! always triple check and be safe!
I got some webbing then tried to make the harness. I know how to tie a tape knot but I don't know how to tie it at the part you skipped, please respond.
Perfecto, gracias.
7:08 And there you have... no more balls.
Yeah, I've used the swiss seat for lengthy adventures, but I don't think I could use that second one for more than 10 seconds... I'd rather do a Dulfersitz, and distribute some of the pain to my collar bone. Good to have some brainstorming going on though. Thanks guys.
ITS-Where did you learn these knots? Is this something you constantly pursue or from your past knowledge?
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I use 1 inch webbing, and you can get it from REI for about 30 cents a foot. I'm sure there are cheaper places too.
I got the basic concept, going to get some material put in my kit,
Do you have a video of the tape knot?
Maybe I spelled it wrong, but that's what it sounds like.
The first seat is the ranger seat .
Water knot refers to many knots, including a tape knot and a fisherman's knot. Tape knot is more specific. Even more technically, it is an Overhand Follow Through Bend.
With the second hasty harness, if I had it set up for me, but had to put it on someone smaller, would the excess webbing interfere with the function or safety of the harness?
Certainly its too dangerous if it be loose
4:58 The “Ball shake”
What is a tape knot😮?
Why tubular webbing rather than just flat webbing of comparable strength?
Want to make sure its the right size or else its tight on your crouch
Where do you get those retractable lanyards?
Rock climbing stores! I went yesterday and some stores have absolutely everything! I could easily spend 10000AUD.
I've used the first version many times, not comfy, but definitely does the job. ;)
Can you tie a swiss seat using the webbing.
Its been along time since I have tied a swiss seat but I don't see why not.
thats sweet
I rappel A LOT. I have always used a diaper harness. It works fine for me because i just keep the knot in the same spot.. But when taking newbies this seams alot easier.
Great info - thanks!
is the tape knot similar to a water knot?
how thick is the tubular webbing? and where did you get it?
Hi in an emergency can this be used in conjunction with a rappelling line for an overweight individual ?
Daniel Vigoa in general yes. But it depends a little bit at the weight of the person. When you aren't sure if the sling will hold it you can also take a big (47inch or bigger) climbing sling for building the harnes. But the more the person weights the more the sling will cut into the legs. and that hurts alot.
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Learned the second hasty harness as the diaper harness. And yes (@Mark Ifi), sometimes you need a harness, but don't want to wear one all day, and you are carrying the webbing as part of your gear, since it can serve multiple purposes.
any more comfortable than a swiss seat?
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where can i get a Hasty Webbing Harness please.
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Good vid ! I have to disagree about the knot though. Square knots, being backed up, are superior to tape knots....in the sense that you can snug it around your waist. If it's not snugged around your waist, you could fall out of it if your upside down.
Could this be a choice for belaying lead climber?
Senki207 No not even in an emergency. When you fall into this harnes it will strangulate your legs and may crush your balls. And when you use a sling like the one in the video it may would break at a fall. Also when you leadclimb the rope pulls most of the time downwards and harnesses like this aren't that tight that they hold on to your hips and when you fall they are not in the right position. These harnesses are only for emergency reppeling. So when you like to live on spend a few bucks on a climbingharness. They aren't that expensiv 👍
I didn't mean for the climber to wear it but the belayer since he doesn't take such a shock
Senki207 for that you may could use it. But only when the climber doesn't fall more than maybe 4-5 meters (for example an indoor climbing wall) and is not heavier than you. And before you do that i recommend you to just sit in a harness like this for 1 or 2 minutes completely free because your weight will sit on a very small surface.
And you shoud use a dynamic (Nylon not Dynema) sling that holds a minimum of 22 kN. But personaly i would recommend you to buy a cheap climbing harness for about 40 bucks or less. Or buy a used one which would be still more safe and comfortable for you and the climber. I don't think that nylon sling would break in case of a fall but it can hurt you very hard which can cause you to let go the breakend of the rope.
So in general you could do it but i definetly don't recommend you to do it.
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Is that webbing 1.5 or 2 inch?
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Rob Fern you can also tie a harnes out of a 47 (or something close to this number) inch climbing sling. But remember these harnesses are normaly for emergencys
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The 2nd way....Ouch!
Dress the waist loops as high as possible
Hmm always called it a water know not a tape knot
Bondage?
This looks like it would hurt the nads.
Some things wrong with this video;
1. It’s called a water knot.
2. There are far easier ways to tie a harness that is almost the same thing but a lot safer and those videos can easily be found on RUclips by doing a search for webbing harness.
3. They might have lied to you, that webbing looks a little too thin to be real tubular webbing rated for life-support and I would not trust it without a proper CE or UIAA certification
4. If anything says climbing rated, it is not climbing rated. It needs the proper certifications. That’s something a company will add to increase sales but is not safe.
5. Any webbing or rope harness needs to be tightened extremely snug or it will stretch way too far under load.
6. That is not a hasty harness.
7. You learned this harness from animatedknots which is the worst place to learn how to tie knots.
8. That is not a Swiss seat.
9. You do not carry a Swiss seat pre-tied. It is a way to make a makeshift harness in an emergency when you do not have the appropriate gear and have not planned.
10. The Swiss seat is tied using rope. Not webbing.
11. I have never heard anyone call the Swiss seat comfortable. Huge black welts aren’t fun but in an emergency when you do not have the appropriate gear can be tolerated.
12. Making videos is fine, but please don’t make videos that can get someone killed without the appropriate training and certifications. Surviving one time with a particular strategy does not count.
It is generally not recommended to mark ropes and webbing, especially with permanent markers anywhere other than the very ends, as it is supposed to deteriorate the material.
Nylon has an A2 Excellence rating against xylene, the common chemical in permanent markers. Meaning it doesn't matter if you write on it or not. In general nylon is has a good resistance against most chemicals out there, making it so popular. This is a common misconception I've heard a lot in the military but no one ever knows exactly what they're talking about.
Better junk shots on the swiss seat video.
Don't use a figure eight in webbing. It will fail. The tape knot is more commonly called a water knot.
I've never heard of a tape knot. The knot he tied is a water knot. Not a figure eight like master nameless77 said.
I thought it was a Water Note....
ha,.. use in a pinch..
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wtf, multicam shorts, this is going to far... lol
Pretty shitty harness. Knew this was a waste of time when I saw the multicam shorts.