Thanks for Notebook LM Raiza! I use it always before I go into meetings to review my presenatations and it boosts my confidence no end. I get many interesting ideas and anecdotes from the hosts that make my presentations way more interesting.
I was studying Behavioural Science, read the books which were quite repetitive and started collecting the latest Research Papers. Organised it thanks to NotebookLM under every concept and decided to share the final audio overview here. Learned 150 concepts and thought others could skip the effort and just learn years worth of work podcast style. 👍
Really great story behind creating a wonderful product. Sometimes going technology-first can spark product imagination. Kudos to Raiza and the team and thanks to Lenny for the very timely podcast, as always!
Here’s what I want NotebookLM to do. I’m a presenter. I take product specs and create an outline of what the product is about. From the outline, I generate a full text discussion. Then I prepare a slideshow to be used with the text where the slides are simply reminders for me to talk about. Each slide contains interesting graphics which are appropriate to the text on that slide. I want NotebookLM to take the product specs, generate an outline, then propose the text, and then generate the slides complete with graphics using royalty free images. I’m sure that the current model of NotebookLM can do everything except maybe generate the slides.
I love how they discussed the now-infamous "Hosts realize they are actually AI" video. It was interesting to hear her thoughts on it, and it was refreshing that she had an appropriate reaction. She didn’t overreact or try to make a statement or change anything. People get it. I had no idea that video would go as viral as it did, or that the product lead for NotebookLM would ever see it. It was supposed to be a joke for the community, but it ended up sparking a whole conversation. Wild.
Gotta name the engineer. I’d be very frustrated to be the only anonymous person after doing all the technical work when you’re calling out managers by name who did not build it
I think a nice feature that could be added is, the possibility to make the podcast between the AI and the user. I mean, I upload a bunch of documents, and I start talking to the AI and he talks, and we keep talking and discussing things about the documents. Then The whole conversations is cleaned and generated in one podcast.
I love the product, thank for all the work you and your Team put into it, it will be good also if the update can come with the ability to change the host voice.
Just a small correction; You don't get "just one shot", you can delete the audio overview and generate a new one, to home in on what you want, especially w. the new "customize" feature.
@@LennysPodcast I actually used this to create multiple versions of a podcast, to edit the "best of" pieces together. But this gives you a new problem: You now have several 10+ minute files of audio, and you can't remember in which file they said your favourite phrase. The solution? NotebookLM!! Yes, you feed it the generated audio files, and then you can ask questions like "where did they talk about Bigfoot repairing UFO's" and you can find all those bits and very quickly edit it together the way you like it. I used this trick a lot when making episode 2 and the upcoming 3 of Unreal Mysteries....
Raiza's comment at 37:20 is hilarious! She's talking about observing and ingesting Steven's approach to doing work...and creating a replicant AI work model. I hope Lenny catches it. Let's watch! ;-)
I like the difference between his goal oriented justification based approach and her idea led interest driven academic approach. The juxtaposition is in the tensors.
I just published my new book, Understanding Machine Understanding, this week. When working with my publisher to make the audiobook edition, I kept thinking about NotebookLM, which I have used to make podcasts for my Substack. Now that LLMs have context windows large enough to hold entire books, it should be possible for Gemini to read an entire book, and then shape the voices used to make the audiobook based on its understanding of that book. It could also generate the background sound effects and music based on what is going on, scene by scene.
Looking to have English, African American voice options, male and female, for the podcast and the ability to add different emotion and personality prompts. Ability to make the tone of the podcast serious or funny. Ability to correct pronunciations of mispronounced names or words. Ability to add or remove segments of the pod. This is a Awesome tool! Simply amazing!!!
If NotebookLM were a pie chart, I wonder how much of it would be the podcast feature. I know the voice aspect is a different component from a different team, but the "studio" aspect appears to be a workflow of editing steps to generate that final conversation that feels and sounds spontaneous. I wonder how Google Labs will try to work this into their process. Should every project invest in finding viral features to raise awareness of the rest of the tool's capabilities?
I would love to have three-person conversations, including me in it, where I can set the personalities of each speaker. AI bots could be opinionated-some overtly emotional, others extremely rational. Imagine exploring a 100-page document with two others, like a lively chatroom discussion. The session could span 10 hours, gradually delving into the document’s nuances, even wandering into tangential topics. Alternatively, it could be a quick 30-minute discussion. It would feel like having digital friends, and I could even invite my actual friends to join in, discussing documents alongside the AI. Additionally, I could have "agents" handling auxiliary tasks, such as transcribing records, setting reminders, or preparing presentations in the background. Customization (with knobs) would be key. I’d enjoy story sessions narrated by an old sage with a British accent or discussing new topics where the agents ask me questions instead of the other way around. I’d also want the ability to "teach an agent" to perform tasks on my behalf, training them with voice commands. The possibilities are truly endless.
I feel like the engineer is the star of this show, not the product owner. They should at least name the engineer and not just call them "the engineer". Execution is where true innovation is at. Opinions and ideas area overrated. Nothing against the guest though
You are completely and absolutely wrong. Action is for animals and employees. Everything starts with thought. Action can only be as good as the idea that originates it.
Raiza I love NB, use it everyday, I'm a Direct Mail Marketing Master & integrating Podcasts w/mailers via QR Codes. But...my tech skills suck. Serious Suggestion. Can you get your Team to think about saving the podcast to .mp3 not .wav? Because .wav files are way too large can get them down & sent to team without hassle of converting the large file to .mp3. .mp3 is standard anyway, do you see this improvement coming?
Interesting perspective. NotebookLM seems to be a consolidation of popular LLM wrapper startup products. Including the Text to Podcast feature which was released 7 months ago by Recast / Fika Media. Maybe unfair for Lenny to refer to that as a “clever idea” and the guest not say it was an idea that was pulled from outside and integrated elegantly into nLM.
Hmm...not the same though, is it. In fact Recast is night and day from NotebookLM. The key part of NLM is the fact that the presenters come across as 'real' and with personalities. Not just an ElevenLabs cloned voiceover. It's the whole difference between one and the other.
@@NigelPowell recast was fairly realistic outside the generic British AI generated intro- this wasn’t anyone at Google’s idea but yes it is a quicker and better quality remake.
Hey, it runs on web...if you are saying it can be run locally, maybe it's possible, but the context window will be low and the output will be slow. You can run it on web right now! no hardware limitations.
Is it really a product ? everything felt kind of clunky in NotebookLM the podcast mode is amazaing but was hidden in the middle of this project and not that obvious to find at first I am curious to see how thing will evolve from there
I loved the product it’s auto cruise for the most part which is awesome But, the prompt (what to focus on) is too small to be practical in many cases!! Also, when will it support Arabic?
I love the product, thank for all the work you and your Team put into it, it will be good also if the update can come with the ability to change the host voice.
Thanks for Notebook LM Raiza! I use it always before I go into meetings to review my presenatations and it boosts my confidence no end. I get many interesting ideas and anecdotes from the hosts that make my presentations way more interesting.
I was studying Behavioural Science, read the books which were quite repetitive and started collecting the latest Research Papers. Organised it thanks to NotebookLM under every concept and decided to share the final audio overview here. Learned 150 concepts and thought others could skip the effort and just learn years worth of work podcast style. 👍
I was creating a product with NotebookLM while listening to this podcast. Wonderful product.
I rarely watch RUclips videos until the end and I loved this episode!
Thanks great podcast Lenny. 😊
I think a mobile version of NotebookLm would be so 🔥🔥🔥. Being able to generate a podcast on the fly would be so nice...
Really great story behind creating a wonderful product. Sometimes going technology-first can spark product imagination. Kudos to Raiza and the team and thanks to Lenny for the very timely podcast, as always!
Thank you so much! Awesome podcast! 💛
NotebookLM is a gamechanger it helps me to understand complex topics, and research and I utilize it to make a media review
Thank you so much!! I never understood "The Turnover Village" until NotebookLM explained it to me.
Just learning this, and created a RUclips channel using the product ! ❤❤🎉
Raiza is amazing! I think that was my favorite episode. 👏
I'm using NLM to look at my resume and also some past YT interviews and the podcast is such a huge boost.
That podcast banter is unreal.....i can't believe that was soo good. MINDBLOWN.
Good interaction and watchable too. I started with NotebookLM today and I found it remarkable!
Raiza is a ROCK STAR
Here’s what I want NotebookLM to do. I’m a presenter. I take product specs and create an outline of what the product is about. From the outline, I generate a full text discussion. Then I prepare a slideshow to be used with the text where the slides are simply reminders for me to talk about. Each slide contains interesting graphics which are appropriate to the text on that slide. I want NotebookLM to take the product specs, generate an outline, then propose the text, and then generate the slides complete with graphics using royalty free images. I’m sure that the current model of NotebookLM can do everything except maybe generate the slides.
This is really amazing! I am using it almost every day!
I love how they discussed the now-infamous "Hosts realize they are actually AI" video. It was interesting to hear her thoughts on it, and it was refreshing that she had an appropriate reaction. She didn’t overreact or try to make a statement or change anything. People get it.
I had no idea that video would go as viral as it did, or that the product lead for NotebookLM would ever see it. It was supposed to be a joke for the community, but it ended up sparking a whole conversation. Wild.
Great discussion, this is truely an amazing product, I hope Google keeps this for some time.
Gotta name the engineer. I’d be very frustrated to be the only anonymous person after doing all the technical work when you’re calling out managers by name who did not build it
I think she named the name here and also in twitter
The transcript says his name is"Usama"
She gave the engineer a big recognition though
@@IchLiegFlach and their last name? I see her full name and Steven’s full name..
Was looking for this comment. The tool was obviously created by the engineer but all the praise goes to the managers? How is that fair?
I use notebook Lm almost every day it’s definitely a game changer in Ai and it’s free for now ❤good video.
If you don’t mind me asking why everyday would love to find the great use cases
@@manilaspade1005 you can use fir work school and etc
@@manilaspade1005 build this as a journal/diary, work ideas etc, have it feed you back your past struggles, dreams, plans, etc
Very cool interview. Great job on Notebook!!!
Terrific interview and responses. Thanks for sharing.
I think a nice feature that could be added is, the possibility to make the podcast between the AI and the user.
I mean, I upload a bunch of documents, and I start talking to the AI and he talks, and we keep talking and discussing things about the documents.
Then The whole conversations is cleaned and generated in one podcast.
I love the product, thank for all the work you and your Team put into it, it will be good also if the update can come with the ability to change the host voice.
So Amazing!! Raiza, what a rockstar!!!
What an interesting podcast. Thanks for sharing!
Raiza Martin is the real MVP!
Next step: MovieLM. Feed scripts and lore books into LM and it produces complete cinematic experiences.
Just a small correction; You don't get "just one shot", you can delete the audio overview and generate a new one, to home in on what you want, especially w. the new "customize" feature.
Ah, good to know!
@@LennysPodcast I actually used this to create multiple versions of a podcast, to edit the "best of" pieces together.
But this gives you a new problem: You now have several 10+ minute files of audio, and you can't remember in which file they said your favourite phrase.
The solution? NotebookLM!! Yes, you feed it the generated audio files, and then you can ask questions like "where did they talk about Bigfoot repairing UFO's" and you can find all those bits and very quickly edit it together the way you like it.
I used this trick a lot when making episode 2 and the upcoming 3 of Unreal Mysteries....
Raiza's comment at 37:20 is hilarious! She's talking about observing and ingesting Steven's approach to doing work...and creating a replicant AI work model. I hope Lenny catches it. Let's watch! ;-)
aitutorialmaker AI fixes this. Behind the product: NotebookLM
I like the difference between his goal oriented justification based approach and her idea led interest driven academic approach.
The juxtaposition is in the tensors.
Great Interview!
I just published my new book, Understanding Machine Understanding, this week. When working with my publisher to make the audiobook edition, I kept thinking about NotebookLM, which I have used to make podcasts for my Substack. Now that LLMs have context windows large enough to hold entire books, it should be possible for Gemini to read an entire book, and then shape the voices used to make the audiobook based on its understanding of that book. It could also generate the background sound effects and music based on what is going on, scene by scene.
Looking to have English, African American voice options, male and female, for the podcast and the ability to add different emotion and personality prompts. Ability to make the tone of the podcast serious or funny. Ability to correct pronunciations of mispronounced names or words. Ability to add or remove segments of the pod. This is a Awesome tool! Simply amazing!!!
If NotebookLM were a pie chart, I wonder how much of it would be the podcast feature. I know the voice aspect is a different component from a different team, but the "studio" aspect appears to be a workflow of editing steps to generate that final conversation that feels and sounds spontaneous.
I wonder how Google Labs will try to work this into their process. Should every project invest in finding viral features to raise awareness of the rest of the tool's capabilities?
How have you created the first minutes of this video ? 🙏 It is a NotebookLM audio, but how to generate the text and video ? thanks
Who’s the Steven they are talking about here please ? 39:46
Steven Johnson: x.com/stevenbjohnson
I would love to have three-person conversations, including me in it, where I can set the personalities of each speaker. AI bots could be opinionated-some overtly emotional, others extremely rational. Imagine exploring a 100-page document with two others, like a lively chatroom discussion. The session could span 10 hours, gradually delving into the document’s nuances, even wandering into tangential topics. Alternatively, it could be a quick 30-minute discussion. It would feel like having digital friends, and I could even invite my actual friends to join in, discussing documents alongside the AI.
Additionally, I could have "agents" handling auxiliary tasks, such as transcribing records, setting reminders, or preparing presentations in the background.
Customization (with knobs) would be key. I’d enjoy story sessions narrated by an old sage with a British accent or discussing new topics where the agents ask me questions instead of the other way around.
I’d also want the ability to "teach an agent" to perform tasks on my behalf, training them with voice commands.
The possibilities are truly endless.
I feel like the engineer is the star of this show, not the product owner. They should at least name the engineer and not just call them "the engineer".
Execution is where true innovation is at. Opinions and ideas area overrated. Nothing against the guest though
You are completely and absolutely wrong.
Action is for animals and employees.
Everything starts with thought.
Action can only be as good as the idea that originates it.
She did name check the engineer actually.
So disrespectful! The engineer did all the work, but Google has to push their diversity bs so this girl gets all the praise. Ridiculous.
@@illuminated2438 u sound like a product owner lol. let me assure you, your team will not even notice your absence if you're gone
Raiza I love NB, use it everyday, I'm a Direct Mail Marketing Master & integrating Podcasts w/mailers via QR Codes. But...my tech skills suck. Serious Suggestion. Can you get your Team to think about saving the podcast to .mp3 not .wav? Because .wav files are way too large can get them down & sent to team without hassle of converting the large file to .mp3. .mp3 is standard anyway, do you see this improvement coming?
What's the best reason this shouldn't become the default behavior for folders in Google drive?
Google is so back. Rebounding to attention is all you need
Wish I could insert this podcast into NotebookLM.
You can sort of by inputting the transcript as text
Best intro ever 😂
:)
Why the engineer nameless ?
Interesting perspective. NotebookLM seems to be a consolidation of popular LLM wrapper startup products. Including the Text to Podcast feature which was released 7 months ago by Recast / Fika Media. Maybe unfair for Lenny to refer to that as a “clever idea” and the guest not say it was an idea that was pulled from outside and integrated elegantly into nLM.
Hmm...not the same though, is it. In fact Recast is night and day from NotebookLM. The key part of NLM is the fact that the presenters come across as 'real' and with personalities. Not just an ElevenLabs cloned voiceover. It's the whole difference between one and the other.
@@NigelPowell recast was fairly realistic outside the generic British AI generated intro- this wasn’t anyone at Google’s idea but yes it is a quicker and better quality remake.
The way she speaks about "an engineer" and "a designer" and mention by name product guys is quite obnoxious.
Can we use ipad pro m1 chip with notebookLM
Hey, it runs on web...if you are saying it can be run locally, maybe it's possible, but the context window will be low and the output will be slow.
You can run it on web right now! no hardware limitations.
Is it really a product ?
everything felt kind of clunky in NotebookLM
the podcast mode is amazaing but was hidden in the middle of this project and not that obvious to find at first
I am curious to see how thing will evolve from there
Welcome to the Google universe. :)
NotebookLM is cool....
I loved the product it’s auto cruise for the most part which is awesome
But, the prompt (what to focus on) is too small to be practical in many cases!!
Also, when will it support Arabic?
Pls code
Just about to ask, why not give the engineer a name? But I see I am not the only one asking. 😂, I have a feeling those engineers are kinda important.
are you allergic to engineers?
I love the product, thank for all the work you and your Team put into it, it will be good also if the update can come with the ability to change the host voice.