@@harveyhams1572 Craftsman was the "reliable but affordable" brand. They have since lost the first part, and now OP is indicating that HF would like to gain the "reliable" reputation to get sales from disgruntled craftsman users.
He seems to have worked at a million different places, for "years," and a lot of the time his knowledge doesn't back up that narrative. He claims to have been in construction (framing and build-out superintendent), but doesn't know a lot of basic things. Claims to have been a heavy equipment operator, but doesn't know a lot of basic things about his tractor.
I used to be a store manager for harbor freight and I was constantly in touch with the qa dept. about either mistakes in their manuals or a surplus of certain items being returned for same quality issues. Harbor freight has really stepped up their quality control game. They have an overseas quality control dept and then another one state side.
That's why I love having someone that works there, I get the inside scoop on what gets returned often and what never comes back, also that 20% discount on top of the sale price!
funny story. you mentioned at the end about the harbor freight floor jack standing up against the Snap-on. The Harbor Freight Daytona jack, and the snap-on floor jack, are made in the same factory, on the same assembly line. Snap-on actually sued Harbor Freight over it and lost. Same jack, 1/3 the cost.
Probably not the exact same once you consider quality control and quality assurance steps. But close enough that with a warranty and a little inspection there’s no reason to not go that route.
@@thopkins2271 nope... they are litterally the same jack off the same assembly line... snap on actually withdrew the lawsuit when harbor freight counter sued for false advertising. Snap on had apparently marketed it as American made
@@margaretfraser9610 the jack is probably the best in its class... harbor freight just negotiated a better deal for the customer. They also hired several snap on engineers to design the new icon line
My cousin has a 10,000lb Badland winch with both the corded and wireless remotes for ten years or more and he’s never had a problem with any of it. In my opinion they’re every bit as good as Warn winches w/o the bank breaking price. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one.
“If they offered to send you a new badlands winch, would you say yes? Of course you would so sit down and shut up.” I gave the video a 👍 just for this.
The Vulcan and Titanium welders are solid workhorses. The accessories are only so so, but capable which helps price points. Even some of the cheap stuff is pretty damn good. The 4.5 angle grinder is almost unkillable for like $20
i will put my 20 year old warn 9000 pound up against it any day or my 11000 ramsey i know my 13000 pound ramsey will eat it alive. but i do use 5 or 6 different harbor freight winches on my trailers that way if they get stolen i haven't lost that much money.
I can't believe people get stuff like this for free, well, free except the thousands of hours of hard work and dedication to creating high quality youtube content that has built up a wide audience and influence.
@@paulmurgatroyd6372 i get free stuff through amazon for reviewing a lot stuff company's send me different stuff to try i dont even write detailed review just a quick honest opinion
My first thought was “I really like how open you are with us about how this was sent to you” and then you went into the “if they offered it you’d take it so sit down and shut up” and I laughed because you’re 100% correct. Love your channel! Been following for a few years. From a 25y/o New York City dweller who grew up on a farm, thanks for everything you do!
I bought one for my Nissan Titan, first time I had to use it I was nose down in a creek...it pulled me out with no problems, mine came with two extra sheathing wraps for the rope too. I personally like the wireless deal, it's pretty awesome!
Once you called the hook "high quality" without actually load testing it you lost me. Fast forward through the video and nothing is load tested. So, this video is just about how pretty a tool looks that must work in the ugliest conditions. OK.
🙂Lol, so you want him to load test the previously load tested, also quality control passed forged hooks which are known for their strength just to be double tripple sure? Well you are probably right, I mean I am sure you test your fishing line too, you know to make sure?😉 I am sorry, I just couldn't resist as I am a pretty knowledgeable wheeler of 15 years and just don't see the huge oversight, I mean if I welded myself up my own Land Anchor or something, I mean i would load test or just plain test the thing out (from inside the rig ducked down safely of course) before relying on it out in a damn empty open mud field just to ensure and verify the strength and load bearing capacity of the anchor⚓. I will admit you got me thinking, as I don't usually check every single new thing before I use it, I usually just carefully use the first time slowly and then repeatedly if nothing goes a foul. I am curious to know though, how many hooks have you had give on you over the years, if any or you by chance you have had numerous ones do this and you make your living from hooking and towing as a hauler, then were they always the proper DOT approved /recommended rated hooks in every situation?
It’s a good sign of a company’s belief in their product when they send it to a skeptic with no strings attached. Companies need to do this more often, if they get a good review, that says a lot.
They wont send that junk to people who actually do work,they know its junk.I dont trust hf winches at all on any serious pulls.Ill hook up the warren.hf,i wouldnt buy another one.
Whenever Dad needed to rent a tool he would go to Harbor Freight first and if it was cheaper to buy rather than rent we would buy. 15 years I still borrow his tile saw whenever I need it.
Did the same with a lower wall breaker Jackhammer, it's made it 6 years and 100's of hours of use. The copper in the cord finally work hardened and broke about 2 years ago, replaced that with an extension cord. It just wore out the original brushes, but it came with replacement brushes 😄 (the HF chisels do wear out faster than the Bosch though) full disclosure lol
Needed to cut fire brick for my sugaring arch. Harbor Freight beat the rental, hands down. Closest rental was an hour away, and of course, there was a time limit. Now I have a saw I can use for lapidary/stone cutting... Big win.
So update on this winch I bought one back in January I mounted it to the hitch mount plate and have used it in multiple situations. Honestly I wasn’t kind at all but it performed great until the other night. I attempted to skid a large hemlock out of the woods and it almost accomplished the job but unfortunately I found the breaking point. The winch blew apart at the mount points the cast housing on both sides of the drum let go. I feel like this tool was pushed well past it’s recommended use and am very impressed that the critical failure did not stop the winch from spooling in or out
Also we don’t know how he was using it, if the load was heavy did he have the line rigged properly, the length of the line out correct for the load, the time spent pulling did he do 30s on 5min off? There’s a lot left out to say it was truly the winches fault
Give it to some farmers, rock climbers and when they get done with it let us know. Looking at a winch means almost nothing. Testing it in real world situations is where the fizz is.
Except for corrosion to the internals, I think Warn also had some pretty crappy solenoids. Seems like one of my old Warns had sticking solenoids....but this was way back in 1990ish years. Great presentation👍👍
Nothing out of Harbor Freight is meant to be commercial rated. This is more for weekend off-roaders and hobby ranchers who subscribe to "better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it" who can easily shell out $600 for one and maybe another $600 for a back-up.
@@dylantheshotgunner5136 I have nothing against Harbor Freight ... I think they do an awesome job of trying to get affordable products to consumers not wanting to overspend for the best. My problem is with people, like the original poster, who insist that every product out there be commercially rated when the target market obviously are common consumers who are willing to pay a fraction of the price to get what they want to satisfy their most basic needs at home, their small ranch, or their small farm.
Manual controls at the winch means you'd be using it while standing "in the bite", that goes against all recommendations and safety protocols when winching. Now for rewinding unhooked, makes sense. Pulling a load, nope
@@stopcommunism9224 Matt’s off-road recovery uses them, I’d say almost if not exclusively, in his business making all sorts off vehicle recoveries in the Utah mountains and deserts. They seem to be holding up well and he’s paying for them out of his pocket. He doesn’t like using winches either.
Lots of division in the 4x4 community over this winch. Warn loyalists hate it. Low budget guys are warming up to it. There is also a rumor, the inner parts of the Apex is Warn. I havent seen a review yet where its been broken. Most guys arent working it very hard.
If people buy offshore products,even at the deep discounted prices that they sell for,then they are sending money to countries that don’t necessarily have Americas best interests at heart. Buy American,support the economy here!
What? You don't like supporting countries that are outspoken enemies of the US? You don't like supporting countries that are actively engaged in ethnic cleansing and concentration camps? Crazy. LOL
@@ericlee8231 Americans don’t make as much stuff as we used to. We design it all and then have less developed countries make it for us. I’m all for manufacturing growth here in the USA, but that doesn’t change the fact that the worlds largest super power will increasingly use the rest of the world to make its stuff. As tradesmen demand higher and higher comp, companies simply cannot compete with the foreign alternative. I am not going to pay 5x the price id the quality is decent.
Bro I just thought this guy ALWAYS had done something BETTER them anyone and has been there done that guy. One upper people are so annoying. I wasn't gonna say this but him saying this today made me laugh
The problem is that warn barely manufacturers any of their stuff anymore. All of their ATV winches are made in China and their auto winches have all the components made elsewhere and only assembled in US. If a company would actually make 100% made in USA id pay 4 times as much for it, the problem is that they charge 3 times as much and you still end up with made in China.
Yeah even items claiming they are made in America will usually have all the parts sourced from China. Then they pay a guy minimum wage to put them together here.
If American companies want people to buy American made then they need to offer the same value that non-American companies do. Either make a better product or have better pricing. These days it seems that many American companies couldn’t give a damn. It’s all about profits and never about the people. I work for a place that makes shingles and they’re about half as thick as they used to be for a higher price.
You don't impress me as someone who would take money to push something you don't believe in. As such, it doesn't bother me if you have a financial relationship or not...
I don't think he supports communism, I don't think he supports our largest military foe,I don;t think he supports a country that poisoned the word with covid. Yet here he is promoting a product that feeds the CCP. Sad
While i find you tend to be unbiased, return the unit on principle regardless of how you feel about it. The real endorsement will be to see if you would actually purchase with your own cash after being able to review and return a demo unit.
I’d like to see how it actually performs. The water rating is doubtful. I know many Chinese items say they meet a certain criteria when they actually don’t. For example, many of their rechargeable batteries do not have advertised capacity. It would be nice to see how this winch holds up with actual use and a pressure washer.
Harbor Freight has no choice but to more closely adhere to American expectations for American retailers as opposed to Chinese companies with no American intermediary.
@@MonteGibson2113 lol I can’t believe people really put shitty wholesale parts off aliexpress and harbor freight on the same level. Like whaaaaat a company operating in the United States with hundreds of retail locations *cant* just blatantly lie like some random guy in China???? That’s craaaaaaaazy
How do you deal with Wong? With win g. The gambler has wing Has always had wing and Will always wing, Why are there so many phones in China???? Beacouse with all the wings and wings they keep winging the Wong number.
Harbor Freight is certainly hit or miss. They have some terrible stuff, but they also have some stuff that I absolutely LOVE. As long as your careful, you can get some truly great stuff there. I have some small f-clamps that I love. My 12" disc sander is great. I got the big dust collector and swapped out the impeller blades and mounted it to a cyclone. It's great. I love the big floor jack I got too.
If you know what you're looking at, HF has some gems. If you know your materials, it can be like finding prime rib at sirloin prices instead of hotdogs at hotdog prices.
I bought a Chicago Electric hammer drill from there that honestly lasted less than an hour. Started smoking and burned out the motor. Their clamps are a steal of a bargain. Use them for woodworking and they're awesome
Yep... sometimes hit & miss. We bought an 8700 watt Predator (Harbor Freight) generator and couldn’t be happier with the product and price. I hadn’t started it in a year and it started up on the first pull. The same generator is twice the price everywhere else. But I remember needing hole saws once on a job.... because I left mine at home.... bought a cheap set at HF and some were literally oblong. Haha
no doubt within the last year i bought a No.4 plane that they let me return because of the crack built into the shoe and my first 10" drill press that was 10% cheaper than the same model at lowes.
Actually when harbor freight began they had no retail stores they had a semi tractor trailer that traveled all over and the trailer was the mobile store! I shopped in one several times in my area! But they have came a long way especially in selection and quality!! They are definitely worth trying!
Sorry, Cody, I won't buy from China if I can help it. Glad to see that Hazard Fraught is upping its game, but I'll support American companies and American workers.
The problem is that warn barely manufacturers any of their stuff anymore. All of their ATV winches are made in China and their auto winches have all the components made elsewhere and only assembled in US. If a company would actually make 100% made in USA id pay 4 times as much for it, the problem is that they charge 3 times as much and you still end up with made in China.
@@TurboTaco2JZ All-Clad is sourced, made and assembled in America. Pennsylvania to be exact. East Penn batteries are sourced, made and assembled in America. These companies are few, but they can still be found.
I want to add a wench to my truck "just in case". It makes a lot more sense to me to pay $600 than $1700 for something that I'm likely to not need every often, if ever.
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk AND a wench! LOL I was fine, but my fingers were drunk when they wrote that. But I'll leave the misspelling so everyone knows what we're talking about. DOH!
WARN provides a lifetime warranty for materials and defects in their winches and a 7 year warranty on the electrical components. The harbor freight winch has a 90 day warranty on everything.
I’m not a fan of logos all over either. On the aluminum piece, fill the recessed letters with Bondo, sand it smooth, and give the whole piece a few coats of bright colored epoxy paint. Winner winner.
Heard of a guy who made a car dealership remove their logo from his truck. Allegedly, the customer told the dealership he didn't spend 50k on a new truck to advertise the dealership. I say bravo!
They are making higher quality tools because they finally figured out that warranty returns are VERY expensive. It is cheaper just to make it better the first time.
If a company could make things cheaper at the same quality they would. You get what you pay for in general, and believe me you pay for outsourcing labor to China etc.
EVERYTHING is made in China, until we drain the swamp. We need to be incentivsing businesses to bring work back to America. I doubt Beijing Biden would want that though.
@@iraqbeentheredonthat While you are not wrong, all of the outsourcing happened decades ago and both parties are to blame. If you really want a culprit, just look at the taxes on bringing back overseas profits, then ask yourself how China got the capital to build all those factories. And, when they were recently given a tax holiday on overseas income, US companies just used their extra cash for share buybacks.....
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I prefer steel Cable over synthetic rope. The fragility of synthetic rope has caused my friends to have them Break. None of the people I wheel with have broken a steel winch line. Off road is too unpredictable and sometimes when pulling the line scrapes a rock or the earth, and the synthetic lines can not tolerate this. I for one will continue to use winch line that requires me to wear gloves when handling it.
@@jacuzzibusguy the nylon sleeve her dismisses on there is great over obstacles. Ive had the same synthetic line for years. Biggest enemy is the sun. Use the nylon wrap to completely cover the cable and it'll shield it from the sun.
HF has come a really long way, I’ve had great experiences with their inverter generators, air compressors, jacks, & even their entry level mig welders. Hand tools have been hit & miss but def 10 times better then 10 years ago. Though their coupons are useless now & their prices have jumped up.
If you are going to just look at the winch like most people do, then it's just as good as any of them. I know a guy that bought one a few years back, he hasn't used it yet. They should make just a look a like winch like as in fake. Sell it for $50... they would sell like hot cakes...
I'm probably never going to use one when I buy it, but it's about peace of mind, knowing I have it if I need it. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean you will never need it. Better safe than sorry. I take it you were never a boy scout.
One thing, I use these for an "A" frame hoist to left Trusses for steel buildings. It is advised to run the Ground Cable all the way TO the Battery post and not rely on the Steel Frame of the truck. You may have a loose bolt, etc between the winch and the battery ground and that will cause a LOT Of heat and other problems.
I bet your azz you would work for Harbor Freight............Cha-ching.............aling. My HF jack has lasted over 3 years for my 3 ton and 9 years for my 2.5 ton. They BOTH still work so I do not need to buy an overpriced Snap-on POS. besides jacks are made to lift, not hold. They can hold but jack stands are far safer.
Big tech is watching you. Recently I was on a train having a conversation with the wife about a Thai green curry for dinner, and lo and behold we get home, I log into FB and what do I see... adverts for Thai green curry sauce.
How do you shoot an ENTIRE VIDEO without thinking to yourself: _”hmmm, maybe I should educate myself on this product BEFORE talking about it…?”_ - “I don’t know what this is” and “I’ll have to look into that” is NOT something we need YOU to waste our time with. If you were wondering why your 👎 is so HIGH, now you know!!! You DID NOTHING but show us the CONTENTS of the box and “WONDER” what it all does…. Ever consider READING THE MANUAL??? Or at least SKIMMING the “DESCRIPTION” & “SPECS” on the website so you HAVE A CLUE???? I can’t believe I was just foolish enough to watch this.
Harbor Freight has been adding commercial grade lines to their inventory. Such as the Earthquake 1/2 inch composite air impact wrench is a higher quality than the Snap-on version. The Hercules 12 inch miter saw is becoming the job site replacement. With the extended warranty a contractor can take it to the store and walk out with a new one. It is slowly replacing the Dewalt miter saw for dependability and quick turn around if there is an issue. This is not a paid endorsement. I have these tools and use them.
Beware, Cody! It is admirable to wish to get rid of the RUclips ads. But the truth is, if you turn those off, YOU WILL LOSE THE ALGORITHM. RUclips gets a cut of their ads, not your sponsor.
Ive used Winches of many brands since the 60s and brother ITS WATS INSIDE THAT MATTERS !!! So i give u 👎👎 for NOT TAKING THE WINCH APART AND SEEING HOW AND WAT ITS MADE OF
Maybe it's time for winch wars? Attach the Warn to an unmovable object and the Harbor Freight to an unstoppable force, turn them on and see which one catches fire first!
Don't forget it's still made in China. Check out Zeak winches. That's what I bought. I also have an extensive background in the category mostly logging Marine and recovery oops.Dandahermit.
I have this on my tundra, and I pulled cars out of snow drifts, up rooted small trees, pulled off dead tree branches. No problems at all. I love it and I got it for 350 during a harbor freight sale.
Couldnt care less if you did paid reviews as long as you have a honest opinion, i want you to make as much money you can so we can get awesome content.
Your exactly right !!! I dont understand why people get so upset over their favorite RUclipsrs making money from different outlets whether its from paid per veiw , by view duration , advertising or promotional .... I hope everyone can make as much money as possible because they're taking time from their day to produce content for us to watch that isnt exactly free ... So if they keep making content we enjoy to watch shouldnt they be able to make a living at it ??? Some people seem to not think so and I can't wrap my head around it like its hurting them somehow haha .... Anyhow I completely agree and just adding my thoughts with yours 😄👍👍👍 be blessed my friend and have a good day 🙏👍
I went thru the same decision warn vs the world. I bought this to try and this has REALLY opened my eyes! Two days after installing on my tundra, i winched out my buddy’s new f350 from a road drainage ditch sitting on its axles. 2 other guys from a local farm were asking all the details on where to “get this thang” after telling me no way my “1500 was gonna winch out this 9k lb truck”. Needless to say it did not dissapoint! Happy to keep it.
Great review video and free is free. I still spent my money on the mostly made in America Warn and Vehicles. Before any comments I know a lot of electronics still come from China but Warren is higher in American workers to assemble it and put it together here in America. Hiring American workers. Yes I also get it harbor freight hires a lot of American workers also. Everyone has a right to spend their hard earned money where they want to. God bless America
Harbor Freight has come a LONG way. I just exchanged a set ratchet wrenches, and it was just like walking into sears. They said go grab another set of them sign here and walked out, and no questions asked.
Replace the line it comes with, with a Yankum Ropes synthetic cable. And a Yankum Ropes Fairlead. Loose the steel hook, and go with just a soft shackle system.
He implied this would be an unbiased review and then at the end spoke about how excited he was to start a relationship with harbor freight. What about the inner workings? Motor and gear quality? Usage test? Clearly if you’re thinking about “working with” harbor freight in the near future you wouldn’t totally smear their new winch. You could let some things slide and be not so critical. -Long time WS subscriber.
@@brainattackmaniack I watched another review of these winches and the guy deliberately dropped the remote in a puddle, fished it out and it still worked.
10 Minutes of him Guessing and Assuming what parts do what when all it Takes is 2 minutes of looking at the Instructions to know what everything does. Mr. "I like to hear myself talk", just keeps babbling along Guessing and Assuming.
Cody, do you ever shop Northern Tool + Equipment? Family-owned business with a great variety of all the stuff you'd ever want (and need) for the homestead!
Is this just an unboxing or are you planning to demonstrate n test it? I just bought a 13000 lb winch that looks exactly like it but better build quality. I paid $361 for it. It's a beast. I was a hold out for nylon line but decided to check it out. Dandahermit
One question. If they are so good why is it a Warn has a lifetime mechanical warranty and a 7 year electronics warranty and the Badlands ( according to their website) has a 90 day? Yes I know you can buy 3 of those for the cost of one Warn but if you're stuck in the middle of nowhere and your winch fails what good is that. Also you can buy a Superwinch with a lifetime mechanical and 5 year electronics warranty for about the same money as a Badlands! But I will admit HF is definitely getting better at their quality. But I will stick with paying more for a quality tool thats as important as a winch.
As someone who worked at harbor freight a few months ago I can confirm that nowadays they make some really good tools and in some cases tools even better than your snap on tools.
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What people are missing about HF. They're making a respectable effort to fill in the gap left by Craftsman.
Yes. Or better. Go look for their ICON torque wrench comparisons. As good or better than Snapon for half the price.
You can still get Craftsman.
@@harveyhams1572 Craftsman was the "reliable but affordable" brand. They have since lost the first part, and now OP is indicating that HF would like to gain the "reliable" reputation to get sales from disgruntled craftsman users.
THIS
some of the tools are trying some are a joke tho
You should do a video talking of all your job history. Seems like youve worn many hats over your years.
I think Cody must be 200 years old or has only worked at any one job for no more than a month.
He puts Homer Simpson to shame with all his work history!
@@urbanjungle9600 you haven’t heard Cody’s stories from when he worked at the nuke plant?
@@urbanjungle9600 Homer was an astronaut.
He seems to have worked at a million different places, for "years," and a lot of the time his knowledge doesn't back up that narrative. He claims to have been in construction (framing and build-out superintendent), but doesn't know a lot of basic things. Claims to have been a heavy equipment operator, but doesn't know a lot of basic things about his tractor.
"If they offered to send you a new winch would you say yes? Of course you would so sit down and shut up!"
😂🤣😂🤣
I got a good chuckle out of that as well. Heck yeah send me a free winch
This is why I love watching Cody's videos. He is such a real guy.
Sounds like Cody's Grandpa talking right there!
Haha yes it was golden :)
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition 😆
I have no problem using "Disposable" tools, because after a few uses, I usually forget where I put them down anyway.
So true. Or your children borrow them and never return them.
Damn straight that's real fact
Harbor Freight have saved me when I cant find my tool, or I'm too far from home to drive back there.
I relate to this thread
I hate head injuries too. I constantly have short term memory problems.
I used to be a store manager for harbor freight and I was constantly in touch with the qa dept. about either mistakes in their manuals or a surplus of certain items being returned for same quality issues. Harbor freight has really stepped up their quality control game. They have an overseas quality control dept and then another one state side.
That's why I love having someone that works there, I get the inside scoop on what gets returned often and what never comes back, also that 20% discount on top of the sale price!
funny story. you mentioned at the end about the harbor freight floor jack standing up against the Snap-on. The Harbor Freight Daytona jack, and the snap-on floor jack, are made in the same factory, on the same assembly line. Snap-on actually sued Harbor Freight over it and lost. Same jack, 1/3 the cost.
Noted
Probably not the exact same once you consider quality control and quality assurance steps. But close enough that with a warranty and a little inspection there’s no reason to not go that route.
Thats the one I just commented about I forgot the name but I've used it a decent amount of time and it's the best quality jack I've owned
@@thopkins2271 nope... they are litterally the same jack off the same assembly line... snap on actually withdrew the lawsuit when harbor freight counter sued for false advertising. Snap on had apparently marketed it as American made
@@margaretfraser9610 the jack is probably the best in its class... harbor freight just negotiated a better deal for the customer. They also hired several snap on engineers to design the new icon line
“Of course you would, so sit down and shut up” you just kill me!😂😂😂😂
@ 2:48... LOVE IT!!! I'll take more of that
Best thing Cody has ever said! And he has said some dam great things!
damn straight. LOL
So true though
killed me too! That was great!
Best thing about Harbor Freight tools is that eventually, everything turns into a hammer.
Or an anchor ! " Floridian "
really
I have 4 of the 12000 and 2 of the 5000 and I like them all, I have put them through a lot, you can throw the warn in the trash
LMAO!! Too funny..
🤣🤣 that's the worst part
Doesn't like branding... says the guy wearing Carhart and Mechanix all over him....
No he doesnt want to brag being poor. He worked for warn lol. I say, jbweld/grinder and black spraypaint lol. Not gonna force me to rep trash lol
Jeezus how many times must you turn the box over and around and around before just cutting the top open and pulling the winch out? 🤣
Harbor freight has got great zip ties, learned that from Project Farm lol
Yeah I use them to hold the fenders together on my 4 wheeler.
Me too!
Am I the only oddball that reuses zip ties? I refuse to cut one if I can just pop the tab and push it back through!
The stainless steel ones are super strong. Todd is awesome.
@@LemonySnicket-EUC the guys name is Todd? No wonder he reminds me of my uncle
“Sit down and shut up.” Haha
People sure like to judge.
That was precisely when I "liked" the video.
Exactly!
Not a good thing
Cody: "Synthetic line is delicate" while using a sharp knife to point that out.
😂 I was thinking the same thing. I'm sure Cody in his defense will note he had the cutting edge turned out.
I noticed that too!
I was cringing every time that blade touched that line!
Someone just needs to take that knife away.
@@grantw.whitwam9948 Amen
I think based on all the videos I have seen from this guy he has literally worked in every profession there is.
Legend... Just ask him
Not sure about work,,,maybe employed
My cousin has a 10,000lb Badland winch with both the corded and wireless remotes for ten years or more and he’s never had a problem with any of it. In my opinion they’re every bit as good as Warn winches w/o the bank breaking price. I wouldn’t hesitate to buy one.
“If they offered to send you a new badlands winch, would you say yes? Of course you would so sit down and shut up.” I gave the video a 👍 just for this.
Yes.
"A very handsome, good looking wench" was my nickname in high school.
Alright, you win first laugh of the day from me.
It’s winch Not wench
@@spencermorrow2899 I know but I've noticed that he sometimes pronounces it like wench, so I've been waiting for a quotable moment.
@@spencermorrow2899 I'm glad you cleared that up. I was just thinking that $1,700 was awfully steep for a "worn wench". 🤠
@@jdelbrid I've got one of those ill sell ya for dirt cheap...you gotta remember to feed her semi-regular though...
Harbor Freight has really stepped up their game. They still sell the cheap junk too.
The stuff coming out of China has been increasing in quality the past several years.
Yeah I have noticed that too, but sometimes you need as cheap tool to use once, their is now no cheap tools
The Vulcan and Titanium welders are solid workhorses. The accessories are only so so, but capable which helps price points.
Even some of the cheap stuff is pretty damn good. The 4.5 angle grinder is almost unkillable for like $20
I must say they are getting better
This is straight facts
i will put my 20 year old warn 9000 pound up against it any day or my 11000 ramsey i know my 13000 pound ramsey will eat it alive. but i do use 5 or 6 different harbor freight winches on my trailers that way if they get stolen i haven't lost that much money.
UNBOXING in the title is more apt.. a review would entail ACTUAL USE.
I had to laugh as he's telling me how tough it is, while he's opening the box. How would he know?
Waited the entire video for him to hook it to something and run the damn thing. What a waste
I can't believe people get stuff like this for free, well, free except the thousands of hours of hard work and dedication to creating high quality youtube content that has built up a wide audience and influence.
It's so true, I never get sent anything because I don't make videos and no one knows who I am. There's definitely a link... 🤣
Free!!!! I'm lucky if what I buy is on sale. That's why I never loan out my tools, or sell anything. I paid too damn much for them.
Free, except for the advertising they get from this. ;)
@@paulmurgatroyd6372 i get free stuff through amazon for reviewing a lot stuff company's send me different stuff to try i dont even write detailed review just a quick honest opinion
@@johnnnny well, that part is free for Walmart IF Cody thinks it;s good enough to put a video up about it.
I would imagine that vinyl control cable will be as stiff as a coat-hanger in sub-zero temps.
It actually stays quite flexible and isn't as cold or dangerous to hands from splintering.
My first thought was “I really like how open you are with us about how this was sent to you” and then you went into the “if they offered it you’d take it so sit down and shut up” and I laughed because you’re 100% correct.
Love your channel! Been following for a few years. From a 25y/o New York City dweller who grew up on a farm, thanks for everything you do!
How do you willingly leave a farm and move to NYC?
@@nickharris8304 *large sigh* money...a lot of money ...
@@monk12314 money can't buy everything...
I bought one for my Nissan Titan, first time I had to use it I was nose down in a creek...it pulled me out with no problems, mine came with two extra sheathing wraps for the rope too.
I personally like the wireless deal, it's pretty awesome!
Curious if the winch is still holding up?
Once you called the hook "high quality" without actually load testing it you lost me. Fast forward through the video and nothing is load tested. So, this video is just about how pretty a tool looks that must work in the ugliest conditions. OK.
I was confused with the gloves. Dirty product right out of the box?
@@tommymodified 🤔 viruses 🤷
@@tommymodified hideous age spots
@@tommymodified box came straight from china. china = chinese virus
🙂Lol, so you want him to load test the previously load tested, also quality control passed forged hooks which are known for their strength just to be double tripple sure? Well you are probably right, I mean I am sure you test your fishing line too, you know to make sure?😉 I am sorry, I just couldn't resist as I am a pretty knowledgeable wheeler of 15 years and just don't see the huge oversight, I mean if I welded myself up my own Land Anchor or something, I mean i would load test or just plain test the thing out (from inside the rig ducked down safely of course) before relying on it out in a damn empty open mud field just to ensure and verify the strength and load bearing capacity of the anchor⚓. I will admit you got me thinking, as I don't usually check every single new thing before I use it, I usually just carefully use the first time slowly and then repeatedly if nothing goes a foul. I am curious to know though, how many hooks have you had give on you over the years, if any or you by chance you have had numerous ones do this and you make your living from hooking and towing as a hauler, then were they always the proper DOT
approved /recommended rated hooks in every situation?
It’s a good sign of a company’s belief in their product when they send it to a skeptic with no strings attached. Companies need to do this more often, if they get a good review, that says a lot.
They wont send that junk to people who actually do work,they know its junk.I dont trust hf winches at all on any serious pulls.Ill hook up the warren.hf,i wouldnt buy another one.
Facts it's a no bs approach
Harbor freight is honestly alright, I like their impact sockets, and some hand tools. All full replacement lifetime warranty
Thanks for that tip. I need a set of impact sockets.
@@borandell9915 i got the 37pc puttsburgh good even on kobalt xtr 1/2 impact
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 Thank you.
@@darrinrentruc6614 that’s about it now, a decision wether you support American jobs or the Chinese. They have caught up to us in quality. Practically
@@darrinrentruc6614 joe biden supports the ccp and yet hes your president and you pay him.
Whenever Dad needed to rent a tool he would go to Harbor Freight first and if it was cheaper to buy rather than rent we would buy. 15 years I still borrow his tile saw whenever I need it.
Did the same with a lower wall breaker Jackhammer, it's made it 6 years and 100's of hours of use. The copper in the cord finally work hardened and broke about 2 years ago, replaced that with an extension cord. It just wore out the original brushes, but it came with replacement brushes 😄 (the HF chisels do wear out faster than the Bosch though) full disclosure lol
U cant beat HF for as a home owner
Needed to cut fire brick for my sugaring arch. Harbor Freight beat the rental, hands down. Closest rental was an hour away, and of course, there was a time limit. Now I have a saw I can use for lapidary/stone cutting... Big win.
I may be weird but id rather pay more a give some money to an american worker and his family. heck ive bought used warns over new chinese stuff.
So update on this winch I bought one back in January I mounted it to the hitch mount plate and have used it in multiple situations. Honestly I wasn’t kind at all but it performed great until the other night. I attempted to skid a large hemlock out of the woods and it almost accomplished the job but unfortunately I found the breaking point. The winch blew apart at the mount points the cast housing on both sides of the drum let go. I feel like this tool was pushed well past it’s recommended use and am very impressed that the critical failure did not stop the winch from spooling in or out
It would help to state what was the winch you "bought one back in January" because I just found no content there now.
Also we don’t know how he was using it, if the load was heavy did he have the line rigged properly, the length of the line out correct for the load, the time spent pulling did he do 30s on 5min off? There’s a lot left out to say it was truly the winches fault
@@pappaclutch3266 absolutely correct also what angle was he running.... not everyone is smart about riggin
My favorite part is that Harbor Freight basically admitted the rest of their winches are garbage. "We actually have one that's good".
They have alot of low end stuff... priced as such. No shame in knowing what u are.
Got one on my Polaris ranger that’s as functional as any warn I’ve ever owned(3)
They're loss leaders. Be careful with assuming a bunch of things are good there.
This
Give it to some farmers, rock climbers and when they get done with it let us know. Looking at a winch means almost nothing. Testing it in real world situations is where the fizz is.
I had a warn and it wasn’t nearly as reliable as the 12,000lbs badland winch I have had for the last two years
Except for corrosion to the internals, I think Warn also had some pretty crappy solenoids. Seems like one of my old Warns had sticking solenoids....but this was way back in 1990ish years. Great presentation👍👍
Nothing out of Harbor Freight is meant to be commercial rated. This is more for weekend off-roaders and hobby ranchers who subscribe to "better to have it and not need it then need it and not have it" who can easily shell out $600 for one and maybe another $600 for a back-up.
@@MaximGhost lol their 20v 1/2 impact wrenches are pretty good. It’s done way more on my farm than I ever thought it would
@@dylantheshotgunner5136 I have nothing against Harbor Freight ... I think they do an awesome job of trying to get affordable products to consumers not wanting to overspend for the best. My problem is with people, like the original poster, who insist that every product out there be commercially rated when the target market obviously are common consumers who are willing to pay a fraction of the price to get what they want to satisfy their most basic needs at home, their small ranch, or their small farm.
Manual controls at the winch means you'd be using it while standing "in the bite", that goes against all recommendations and safety protocols when winching. Now for rewinding unhooked, makes sense. Pulling a load, nope
Dude I was thinking the same. Also, he didn't actually review or test it...
@@stopcommunism9224
Matt’s off-road recovery uses them, I’d say almost if not exclusively, in his business making all sorts off vehicle recoveries in the Utah mountains and deserts. They seem to be holding up well and he’s paying for them out of his pocket. He doesn’t like using winches either.
Wireless is nice to use while steering a car onto a trailer.
Yeah its nice to be able to close the door while winching if you don't want the window open
Makes it a lot easier and safer to put a large or full dressed motorcycle on a trailer when you're doing it by yourself as well.
That's a good point 🤔
Lots of division in the 4x4 community over this winch. Warn loyalists hate it. Low budget guys are warming up to it. There is also a rumor, the inner parts of the Apex is Warn. I havent seen a review yet where its been broken. Most guys arent working it very hard.
"Warn loyalists hate it" - that's probably the best ad for HF
Warn owner's are just mad b/c they spen $1,800 instead of $700
If people buy offshore products,even at the deep discounted prices that they sell for,then they are sending money to countries that don’t necessarily have Americas best interests at heart. Buy American,support the economy here!
Please buy USA made whenever possible. I truly think we need to support our workers every chance we get.
What? You don't like supporting countries that are outspoken enemies of the US? You don't like supporting countries that are actively engaged in ethnic cleansing and concentration camps? Crazy. LOL
Whatever device you all typed this on was not made in America. Buying completely American is just not possible.
@@ericlee8231 Americans don’t make as much stuff as we used to. We design it all and then have less developed countries make it for us. I’m all for manufacturing growth here in the USA, but that doesn’t change the fact that the worlds largest super power will increasingly use the rest of the world to make its stuff. As tradesmen demand higher and higher comp, companies simply cannot compete with the foreign alternative. I am not going to pay 5x the price id the quality is decent.
@@ericlee8231 You are right. And I have changed my original response. Thank you.
W- “ I would love to compare high quality jacks vs snap on.”
Me- laughs in Daytona
Worked at Warn, had a wrecking yard, danced in a booty bar. Anything else you need to tell ??????
Bro I just thought this guy ALWAYS had done something BETTER them anyone and has been there done that guy. One upper people are so annoying. I wasn't gonna say this but him saying this today made me laugh
It was the blue oyster bar from police academy
Little inside baseball. Warn and Badlands sometimes use the same manufacturer in China for their winches. I have been to their factory
It sounds like a great winch, but were is it made?? If its made in China then everyone should avoid it! Support your country and buy American made!
The problem is that warn barely manufacturers any of their stuff anymore. All of their ATV winches are made in China and their auto winches have all the components made elsewhere and only assembled in US. If a company would actually make 100% made in USA id pay 4 times as much for it, the problem is that they charge 3 times as much and you still end up with made in China.
@@eaglessj Ramsey winch
Yeah even items claiming they are made in America will usually have all the parts sourced from China. Then they pay a guy minimum wage to put them together here.
The sad truth is good luck finding anything you actually want that's made in America
If American companies want people to buy American made then they need to offer the same value that non-American companies do. Either make a better product or have better pricing. These days it seems that many American companies couldn’t give a damn. It’s all about profits and never about the people. I work for a place that makes shingles and they’re about half as thick as they used to be for a higher price.
You don't impress me as someone who would take money to push something you don't believe in. As such, it doesn't bother me if you have a financial relationship or not...
I don't think he supports communism, I don't think he supports our largest military foe,I don;t think he supports a country that poisoned the word with covid. Yet here he is promoting a product that feeds the CCP. Sad
@@pibbleluv China is the most advanced capitalist economy of all time
Be interested to see a tear down to see quality of internals. A nice casing of good and all but the real quality is in the gearing and motor.
"Oh, this is not a paid endorsement." Except of course for the $600 winch.
You need to understand the difference between "endorsement" and "review"
While i find you tend to be unbiased, return the unit on principle regardless of how you feel about it. The real endorsement will be to see if you would actually purchase with your own cash after being able to review and return a demo unit.
Haha, I was thinking the same...
@@thomassullivan1207 You need to learn what a "review" is, this in an unboxing video, you cant review something that you never used.
@@surfer23505 yup definitely an unboxing
Wranglerstar is the type of guy to do woodworking barefoot but pretty serious gloves to unbox a winch
Bought my sons one of these for their trailer as a Christmas gift. They are loving it!
My impression is if a hard core wheeler could get even three or four seasons for less than $600 then that is a real bargain.
“If you were offered a new bandlands wench, would you take it? Yeah so sit down and shut up.” Ha gotta love the gut check. Great content
I’d like to see how it actually performs. The water rating is doubtful. I know many Chinese items say they meet a certain criteria when they actually don’t. For example, many of their rechargeable batteries do not have advertised capacity. It would be nice to see how this winch holds up with actual use and a pressure washer.
Matt's Off Road Recovery here on RUclips uses them. Having said that I'd still rather have a Warn.
Harbor Freight has no choice but to more closely adhere to American expectations for American retailers as opposed to Chinese companies with no American intermediary.
@@MonteGibson2113 lol I can’t believe people really put shitty wholesale parts off aliexpress and harbor freight on the same level. Like whaaaaat a company operating in the United States with hundreds of retail locations *cant* just blatantly lie like some random guy in China???? That’s craaaaaaaazy
Damn China just bought wranglerstar.
If his first name was Joe ? 😅😂🤣
Didnt he complain about off the ranch as well?
They are Wong, they have always been Wong and will always be Wong.
How do you deal with Wong?
With win g.
The gambler has wing
Has always had wing and
Will always wing,
Why are there so many phones in China????
Beacouse with all the wings and wings they keep winging the Wong number.
@@janeprescott980 Are you 6?
Harbor Freight is certainly hit or miss. They have some terrible stuff, but they also have some stuff that I absolutely LOVE. As long as your careful, you can get some truly great stuff there. I have some small f-clamps that I love. My 12" disc sander is great. I got the big dust collector and swapped out the impeller blades and mounted it to a cyclone. It's great. I love the big floor jack I got too.
If you know what you're looking at, HF has some gems. If you know your materials, it can be like finding prime rib at sirloin prices instead of hotdogs at hotdog prices.
Torque wrench
I bought a Chicago Electric hammer drill from there that honestly lasted less than an hour. Started smoking and burned out the motor. Their clamps are a steal of a bargain. Use them for woodworking and they're awesome
Yep... sometimes hit & miss. We bought an 8700 watt Predator (Harbor Freight) generator and couldn’t be happier with the product and price. I hadn’t started it in a year and it started up on the first pull. The same generator is twice the price everywhere else.
But I remember needing hole saws once on a job.... because I left mine at home.... bought a cheap set at HF and some were literally oblong. Haha
no doubt within the last year i bought a No.4 plane that they let me return because of the crack built into the shoe and my first 10" drill press that was 10% cheaper than the same model at lowes.
Actually when harbor freight began they had no retail stores they had a semi tractor trailer that traveled all over and the trailer was the mobile store! I shopped in one several times in my area!
But they have came a long way especially in selection and quality!! They are definitely worth trying!
Sorry, Cody, I won't buy from China if I can help it. Glad to see that Hazard Fraught is upping its game, but I'll support American companies and American workers.
The problem is that warn barely manufacturers any of their stuff anymore. All of their ATV winches are made in China and their auto winches have all the components made elsewhere and only assembled in US. If a company would actually make 100% made in USA id pay 4 times as much for it, the problem is that they charge 3 times as much and you still end up with made in China.
@@eaglessj Assembled in U.S.A. means nothing. They make assembly so easy a child could do it.
@@TurboTaco2JZ All-Clad is sourced, made and assembled in America. Pennsylvania to be exact. East Penn batteries are sourced, made and assembled in America. These companies are few, but they can still be found.
@@TurboTaco2JZ you will end up spending more time researching than doing actual work.
@@illiniwood Ramsey winch made in America as well
I want to add a wench to my truck "just in case". It makes a lot more sense to me to pay $600 than $1700 for something that I'm likely to not need every often, if ever.
Amity built 9500 has been on my truck and never had a problem for 2 years
I agree that any truck looks better with a wench installed.
A winch?
Maybe...
A free winch...too right!
@@JohnSmith-pl2bk AND a wench! LOL
I was fine, but my fingers were drunk when they wrote that. But I'll leave the misspelling so everyone knows what we're talking about. DOH!
Warn is best in the business and proudly made in Oregon, USA. Their warranty is also second to none. I'll stick with Warn.
WARN provides a lifetime warranty for materials and defects in their winches and a 7 year warranty on the electrical components. The harbor freight winch has a 90 day warranty on everything.
So spend a few more bucks and get the extended warranty for another 1-2 years. Which includes a 1 time free exchange during that time period.
I’m not a fan of logos all over either. On the aluminum piece, fill the recessed letters with Bondo, sand it smooth, and give the whole piece a few coats of bright colored epoxy paint. Winner winner.
Heard of a guy who made a car dealership remove their logo from his truck. Allegedly, the customer told the dealership he didn't spend 50k on a new truck to advertise the dealership. I say bravo!
Personally I would just take a Sanderson grinder and just remove the logo that way
It’s a fairly deep inset on the letters. You’d grind the thing down to a nub.
They are making higher end tools because they have finally destroyed the american tool market and now they are perfecting their craft. R.I.P craftsman
They are making higher quality tools because they finally figured out that warranty returns are VERY expensive.
It is cheaper just to make it better the first time.
Craftsman died along time ago. Not that hard to have something made in China and stamp made in us on it...
The "tool truck guys" say the same about Craftsman!
@Deplorable Redneck 2.0 And yet all the Chinese food I eat is made in the USA. Go figure.
They wont send a badlands winch to us guys who will actually test them in the woods,
Their offer is a compliment of your character. They know you are an honest and fair man that will give your real opinion. Kudos to you sir.
If a company could make things cheaper at the same quality they would. You get what you pay for in general, and believe me you pay for outsourcing labor to China etc.
You've never heard of Apple or Mercedes then. The name on a box can command a higher price if the goods are perceived as such.
EVERYTHING is made in China, until we drain the swamp. We need to be incentivsing businesses to bring work back to America. I doubt Beijing Biden would want that though.
Lol, outsourcing makes it cheaper not more expensive MAGA-tard.
@@iraqbeentheredonthat While you are not wrong, all of the outsourcing happened decades ago and both parties are to blame. If you really want a culprit, just look at the taxes on bringing back overseas profits, then ask yourself how China got the capital to build all those factories. And, when they were recently given a tax holiday on overseas income, US companies just used their extra cash for share buybacks.....
Most trump branded products are made in china and other overseas countries.
"The only thing with synthetic is that it is more fragile" - stabs repeatedly with knife for emphasis🤣
Wondered if I was the only one that noticed that.
@@tearl5676 hey tearl, was it just me, or did he say "i know all about winches" then a few seconds later put the hook strap on backwards?
@@orion7741 It is pretty obvious that a synthetic cable compared to metal cable has nothing to do with synthetic oil compared to conventional oil.
Probably an unpopular opinion, but I prefer steel Cable over synthetic rope.
The fragility of synthetic rope has caused my friends to have them
Break.
None of the people I wheel with have broken a steel winch line.
Off road is too unpredictable and sometimes when pulling the line scrapes a rock or the earth, and the synthetic lines can not tolerate this.
I for one will continue to use winch line that requires me to wear gloves when handling it.
@@jacuzzibusguy the nylon sleeve her dismisses on there is great over obstacles. Ive had the same synthetic line for years.
Biggest enemy is the sun. Use the nylon wrap to completely cover the cable and it'll shield it from the sun.
"Of course you would so sit down and shut up"!😂 LMAO 😂
Those winches are junk, they work good a while then when you really need it yep don't work.
Junk. Three of these failed on me. Plus all three stopped letting me power out. JUNK
HF has come a really long way, I’ve had great experiences with their inverter generators, air compressors, jacks, & even their entry level mig welders. Hand tools have been hit & miss but def 10 times better then 10 years ago. Though their coupons are useless now & their prices have jumped up.
Yep. Useless coupons for sure.
If you are going to just look at the winch like most people do, then it's just as good as any of them. I know a guy that bought one a few years back, he hasn't used it yet. They should make just a look a like winch like as in fake. Sell it for $50... they would sell like hot cakes...
I'm probably never going to use one when I buy it, but it's about peace of mind, knowing I have it if I need it. Just because you don't use it, doesn't mean you will never need it. Better safe than sorry. I take it you were never a boy scout.
They actually do make a fake winch for a truck :(
It would be perfect for the brodozers!
@@miltondejesus2076 Just bizarre!
@@miltondejesus2076 they sure do. I put one on my bicycle
One thing, I use these for an "A" frame hoist to left Trusses for steel buildings. It is advised to run the Ground Cable all the way TO the Battery post and not rely on the Steel Frame of the truck. You may have a loose bolt, etc between the winch and the battery ground and that will cause a LOT Of heat and other problems.
I bet your azz you would work for Harbor Freight............Cha-ching.............aling.
My HF jack has lasted over 3 years for my 3 ton and 9 years for my 2.5 ton. They BOTH still work so I do not need to buy an overpriced Snap-on POS. besides jacks are made to lift, not hold. They can hold but jack stands are far safer.
It’s funny this came up on my RUclips to watch. I pulled 3 trucks out of the mud last night with my Harbor Freight wench.
I pulled like 15 cars out with a recovery rope when it snowed here. The winch was for when I got myself stuck 3 times lol
Look at that drop dead sexy gladiator. Yours?
Big tech is watching you. Recently I was on a train having a conversation with the wife about a Thai green curry for dinner, and lo and behold we get home, I log into FB and what do I see... adverts for Thai green curry sauce.
@@Kinotaurus long been known fact.
“I don’t care for branding” with 8 “Mechanix” logos on hands and a Carhartt jacket.
Haha for real 😂😂😂
while hypocritical, Mechanix and carhartt are actually reputable and well respected brands, anything HF is not
He means no/new name that will bring ridicule from name branders.
BADLAND is a dumb name I wouldn't want it on my truck either.
All we use at coal mine now is synthetic rope. It is incredible and if it breaks it can be woven back together for quick repair. I love the synthetic
How do you shoot an ENTIRE VIDEO without thinking to yourself: _”hmmm, maybe I should educate myself on this product BEFORE talking about it…?”_ - “I don’t know what this is” and “I’ll have to look into that” is NOT something we need YOU to waste our time with.
If you were wondering why your 👎 is so HIGH, now you know!!!
You DID NOTHING but show us the CONTENTS of the box and “WONDER” what it all does….
Ever consider READING THE MANUAL???
Or at least SKIMMING the “DESCRIPTION” & “SPECS” on the website so you HAVE A CLUE????
I can’t believe I was just foolish enough to watch this.
If you're as good on winches as you are at opening boxes, I think I will pass on your advice.
You nailed it..... Maybe that is what he did at Warn !
Harbor Freight has been adding commercial grade lines to their inventory. Such as the Earthquake 1/2 inch composite air impact wrench is a higher quality than the Snap-on version. The Hercules 12 inch miter saw is becoming the job site replacement. With the extended warranty a contractor can take it to the store and walk out with a new one. It is slowly replacing the Dewalt miter saw for dependability and quick turn around if there is an issue. This is not a paid endorsement. I have these tools and use them.
Beware, Cody! It is admirable to wish to get rid of the RUclips ads. But the truth is, if you turn those off, YOU WILL LOSE THE ALGORITHM. RUclips gets a cut of their ads, not your sponsor.
The more thumbs up the better. Don't forget to 'like' videos.
Pokes at synthetic line with sharp knife
😲
I have a Superwinch Terra 35 on my UTV and after owing it wouldn't buy anything else but Superwinch. This APEX Badland looks good though.
Ive used Winches of many brands since the 60s and brother ITS WATS INSIDE THAT MATTERS !!! So i give u 👎👎 for NOT TAKING THE WINCH APART AND SEEING HOW AND WAT ITS MADE OF
Thumbs up anyway for the content but double thumbs up for: “Of course you would, so sit down and shut up”
Maybe it's time for winch wars? Attach the Warn to an unmovable object and the Harbor Freight to an unstoppable force, turn them on and see which one catches fire first!
Hook them to each other would be wild.
Im going to suggest this to the guy that has Project Farm channel. He does tests like this.
@@normmuelleman2570 Good idea
Don't forget it's still made in China. Check out Zeak winches. That's what I bought. I also have an extensive background in the category mostly logging Marine and recovery oops.Dandahermit.
I have this on my tundra, and I pulled cars out of snow drifts, up rooted small trees, pulled off dead tree branches. No problems at all. I love it and I got it for 350 during a harbor freight sale.
Couldnt care less if you did paid reviews as long as you have a honest opinion, i want you to make as much money you can so we can get awesome content.
Your exactly right !!! I dont understand why people get so upset over their favorite RUclipsrs making money from different outlets whether its from paid per veiw , by view duration , advertising or promotional .... I hope everyone can make as much money as possible because they're taking time from their day to produce content for us to watch that isnt exactly free ... So if they keep making content we enjoy to watch shouldnt they be able to make a living at it ??? Some people seem to not think so and I can't wrap my head around it like its hurting them somehow haha .... Anyhow I completely agree and just adding my thoughts with yours 😄👍👍👍 be blessed my friend and have a good day 🙏👍
I went thru the same decision warn vs the world. I bought this to try and this has REALLY opened my eyes! Two days after installing on my tundra, i winched out my buddy’s new f350 from a road drainage ditch sitting on its axles. 2 other guys from a local farm were asking all the details on where to “get this thang” after telling me no way my “1500 was gonna winch out this 9k lb truck”. Needless to say it did not dissapoint! Happy to keep it.
Great review video and free is free. I still spent my money on the mostly made in America Warn and Vehicles. Before any comments I know a lot of electronics still come from China but Warren is higher in American workers to assemble it and put it together here in America. Hiring American workers. Yes I also get it harbor freight hires a lot of American workers also. Everyone has a right to spend their hard earned money where they want to. God bless America
Harbor Freight has come a LONG way. I just exchanged a set ratchet wrenches, and it was just like walking into sears. They said go grab another set of them sign here and walked out, and no questions asked.
Replace the line it comes with, with a Yankum Ropes synthetic cable. And a Yankum Ropes Fairlead. Loose the steel hook, and go with just a soft shackle system.
The real test is if you’ll get the chinesiam smell when you run it on a heavy load. Please do a follow up review after real world use.
For real.
My wife bought my son a guitar recently for his 8th birthday. It stinks of Chinesiam.
I used mine to pull a 40ft container no problem
He implied this would be an unbiased review and then at the end spoke about how excited he was to start a relationship with harbor freight.
What about the inner workings? Motor and gear quality? Usage test? Clearly if you’re thinking about “working with” harbor freight in the near future you wouldn’t totally smear their new winch. You could let some things slide and be not so critical.
-Long time WS subscriber.
I'd really like to see solder joints and the internals the actual planatary and motor and compare those to warn!
yeah. like I said...." Nylon Gears?" But,.... no, it's really well made. One of those deals.
I don’t like wireless remotes. Two points of failure: batteries and losing it.
Dropping in water or it getting water in it if raining
@@brainattackmaniack I watched another review of these winches and the guy deliberately dropped the remote in a puddle, fished it out and it still worked.
And it has the ability to hook it up with a cable that is included.
@@MegaDirtyberty I wonder how cheap is a spare remote .mcuz the batteries would be easy to store
@@aylarivers7653 Or if they can be bought separately as a spare
10 Minutes of him Guessing and Assuming what parts do what when all it Takes is 2 minutes of looking at the Instructions to know what everything does. Mr. "I like to hear myself talk", just keeps babbling along Guessing and Assuming.
I stopped watching the video and unsubcribed because of the ungrateful attitude
Of the person that was making this video!!!!!
“Yes you would, now sit down and shut up”. That’s how you handle the negative Nellies on social media. Priceless!
Cody, do you ever shop Northern Tool + Equipment? Family-owned business with a great variety of all the stuff you'd ever want (and need) for the homestead!
The chinese are just reverse engineering the product. Thats why their stuff is nearly identical.
Hell they make the warn winch in the other side of the factory where they make this one. No reverse engineering needed.
At work we call it Chinese blue prints when we look at one part to see how the other one is supposed to look. High precision maintenance.
Is this just an unboxing or are you planning to demonstrate n test it? I just bought a 13000 lb winch that looks exactly like it but better build quality. I paid $361 for it. It's a beast. I was a hold out for nylon line but decided to check it out. Dandahermit
One question. If they are so good why is it a Warn has a lifetime mechanical warranty and a 7 year electronics warranty and the Badlands ( according to their website) has a 90 day? Yes I know you can buy 3 of those for the cost of one Warn but if you're stuck in the middle of nowhere and your winch fails what good is that. Also you can buy a Superwinch with a lifetime mechanical and 5 year electronics warranty for about the same money as a Badlands! But I will admit HF is definitely getting better at their quality. But I will stick with paying more for a quality tool thats as important as a winch.
He looks like a semi-rural Norm McDonald in this video.
As someone who worked at harbor freight a few months ago I can confirm that nowadays they make some really good tools and in some cases tools even better than your snap on tools.