That melting IS NOT normal. What happened seems to be that when you pulled out a lot of red rope not very much was left on the drum. When you rewound it, it was loose without tension. That in turn caused friction from drum to line and thus significant heat transfer to the line. Synthetic’s melting temp is low at around 150 degrees. Lastly, there is a misconception on synthetic to steel winch lines. Both are dangerous when snapping under load when you don’t use safe winching practices. I went through all these things when I had synthetic and simply put, steel wire is superior, just as safe, far more durable, and significantly longer lasting. Oh, and steel line is cheaper.
I have been told that after each pull you should replace the nylon pull rope. Also keep it covered because most of them break down under the sun light the UV light kills them.
@Henry Schnelle my daddy worked at the plant. My daddy’s daddy worked there, almost all my uncles and cousins. So heck no I’d never buy one of those things. I know who made em and I wouldn’t drive a damn thing made by my family.
Working at a rope lab i can tell you that with synthetic ropes (especially when made of dyneema or similar Material) they have very low melting point and the the temp the winch can get is much higher. So its something you have to be mindful is how hot the winch gets. Dyneema has superior abrasion resistance but materials like technora or Kevlar have much higher heat resistance but at the cost of abrasion resistance and price. With Dyneema rope as long as the rope doesn't get too hot like it did in the video and you take good care of it. It can easily last over 10 years. Also once the rope gets melted like that its toast. Dyneema melting point is only 277f
Great comment, thanks for your insight. I'm seriously looking into this winch as a future add-on for my F150. Any suggestions for how to possibly cool the line if need be? Possibly water spray bar or something like that?
@@southernoregonprospector9074 not unless you can cool the drum itself down. That may be a difference with higher end winches (ones that are made specifically for synthetic lines) vs the harbor freight winches. Where they might do more to help keep the overall temp of the drum down or keep it from heating up. Though a friend of mine has one of these harbor freight winches. But he replaced the line with Saturn-12 from Samson and has had zero problems with it so far. For these you want to go with a high end rope.
@@Wetopie I will note that and keep it in mind, as I'm brand new to winches. Not new to off-roading, but I have found myself in a few situations where having a winch would have come in super handy, and since I plan on making a lot more videos over the next year, I'm thinking I should invest in one. Thanks for the help, it's greatly appreciated!
I have synthetic line i used to yard fir trees off our San Juan island property on the side of a hill. Lots of rock, dirt, grass abrasives and the line does get furry. The primary reason why your line burned was because it stretches so you need to wrap it with tension on it otherwise those first loose wraps get crushed with the most power the winch can put out. You will be happier with the line in the long run, much safer to work alone, not heavy and hard to move around like cable and yes the remote is awesome.
I'm an East coast guy and it absolutely took me that extra second to hit that like button. Couldn't help but laugh. Oh and in case you were wondering that like reminder actually work. It's not that a lot of us don't like your content but it's so easy to get consumed in the great content you're watching and you forget to hit the like. So the reminder is great
Deforming of the line comes from it overlapping itself, when you start seeing the red, your supposed to take it back in and make sure it's still in tight formation. If it's not, the line folds over itself and puts pressure on itself, and friction when it's being used. Folding over caused the flattening of the line, friction caused the burning/melting, and the fraying of the line is just a standard wear. Hopefully that helps you understand the problem you have with the line.
@Jason Gunn you are supposed to keep it tightly wound up before starting to winch to keep it from causing excess wear, it is entirely user error and if you use synthetic right it will last 10 years easy and its far more safe to work with
Yea you have to preload it before first use. Also looked like you may have been pulling at an extreme angle? The hawse fairlead should only be used for 15* max pulls. But I’m glad you put it to use after the review. Thank you!
As an east coast guy I've seen a few synthetic ropes get pinched like that. I've never witnessed one break. Usually they retake a new shape with the next pull. I've also seen guys swear by wetting the line with a bottle of water to reduce the heat buildup. Keep up with the awesome videos!!
As a fellow south east coast guy. Ive only used 1/4" rope on my sxs. They snap if you yank on them but never seen them do that. I play in mud and water so maybe that gives it lubrication.
@@charlesmackiewicz As another East Coast Fella (although im in the north) ive seen a synthetic cord snap once, and i never want to see it again. Cut a groove in the plastic brush guard under my old Toyota.
I like how I just now watched the unboxing of this winch and your doubts about the wireless remote.. and here you are loving it like you invented the wheel.. just subscribed.. love your enthusiasm.
Cody man I'm from south Carolina and I have to say u crack me up with the " east coast guys" line I know u don't mean anything malicious by it. It's the funniest thing and I appreciate it the most of all the entertainment u put out that's by far the best line.
Make a video on what you found out about the synthetic rope. It is interesting to see what happened, and would enjoy what the manufacturer says; either replace or it is fine.
KCS: Did you see the other comments? Most likely exceeded the duty factor. I don't know what the documentation says, but perhaps 10 seconds on, 90 seconds off for cooling.
I worked in a coal mine for a little over 3 months. We used a winch a lot down there, and all very heavy loads. We used nylon line. It was a lot thicker than you just had, it was lots a small braids and i think it was originally white? I never saw one break, but we broke 3/8? chain regularly. One big advantage of the nylon is it doesn't snap back and kill you if it breaks, it falls limply to the ground. When i hooky winch up, i will almost exclusively be using nylon line
@@dannykimbro6888 it's some sort of inside joke, I joined the channel yesterday but my best guess is duel alternators can take you to the moon is back is the idea. Duel alternators means anything can get done.... I think still not sure but I'll laugh along with everyone else so nobody thinks I'm think in the head.... " AHAHAHAHA I GET IT I SWEAR!! ".... lol
@@dannykimbro6888 adds horse power and strengthens every part of the TRUCK that's under pressure. Heck, it even makes the tires last twice as long. That's a BIG MAN TRUCK. Surprise he can even drive that beast without a mustache
I can see it now. Cody is surveying his property on the Honda. All of a sudden he slams on the brakes, he says to himself “I found it”... He takes back across the field, runs in the house and tells Mrs. W “I found it”. Mrs W: Found what? Cody: I finally found something to pull with the new winch!
That was user error. You need to spool synthetic under tension to give it a set, before you spool it. What you're seeing with the flattened rope is because you spooled really tightly over loosely spooled rope. It'll come back, though. Just spool it out until just 7-8 wraps are on the drum, hook it to a tree strap/tree, then 4-lo/reverse/idle, and spool the whole length in under tension. I've been using and skidding logs out of the woods with synthetic for like 10 years. I've got 2 X 100ft steel cable extensions that just sit in the barn, anymore.
@@outdoorcrazy you spool it under tension and it only loses tension on like 3 wraps when you are holding it. It's just important that the layers below are spoiled under tension.
When you say "it'll come back, though" you mean that line is salvageable? I honestly don't know - I sling soft serve for a living - and I've never used a winch, much less with synthetic line. That line looked destroyed.
I may only be 17 but I've watched so many of your vids, although the more I watch the more I want to have land and a channel (of course family) like yours. keep up the great content. blessings.
I still remember when mrs. W was like “yeah we need to get a metal brush guard for my safety” and there was a moment of silence before you said “did I mention it has dual alternators”
The line smashed it's self and got hot etc. for those who didn't know. I use metal cable only myself unless it's a light duty say for atv, lawn equipment, etc. Anything for heavy duty/weight it's not that good but it's cheaper.
HF Winches are decent quality, but they skimped a lot on the synthetic rope it comes with. This is the same issue i had with mine when i installed it on my Mahindra Roxor UTV. I bought replacement from amazon as backup, 3rd pull the HF rope failed on me so i replaced it with Amazon replacement... it was the same crappy china junk quality. I reached out to a friend of mine who does sail boat racing asking about the rope they use on their sail boats, he told me to order some REAL Dyneema made by Amsteel Blue, so i did and it was night and day different. The only drawback was i had to buy a needle kit to sow the rope on a clevis, but it was easy to do and fun to learn how to sow rope properly. Ive been running the Dyneema rope now for just over a year and winched with it probably over 50 times in that time and it shows no signs of failure or issues. I used the black rope sleeve from the cheap replacement line on the Dyneema rope and its been great. Highly stress spending a little extra on quality rope. A fellow UTV buddy of mine tried to buy a premade "dyneema" winch rope set off amazon, it was fake dyneema. It was very different in appearance and had a nylon core we noticed and was much heavier than real dyneema... his already broke, so he purchased the real stuff like me and has been super happy with it.
I remember in the install video thinking "I wonder if he's going to spool out the rope and rewrap it under tension?" This is common practice for synthetic rope to prevent the rope that doesn't get pulled all the way out from spinning on the spool under tension of later coils. This is not something you have to do with steel cables.
Idk about that. When I bought my first winch with steel cable the directions said to spool the cable under 500lbs of pressure and I did but after using it once I spooled it back in just pulling on it by hand and next time I used it the cable was binding between itself on the drum. Didn’t cause issues at the time but when I tried to pull the line back out I couldn’t, had to hook to it with another winch to pull it out lol.
Would like to say I really enjoy your videos even the ones that do not apply to myself! What I would like to thank you most for and I'm not a religious man but I do instill the values on my children. I appreciate the blessing and prayer given at the end of all the videos! Thank and bless you also! Cruzen family
I spent most of the winter towing service rigs and other big trucks up hills in northern Alberta whenever I started to slide backwards while winching with the bed truck I would spin holes in the ground with my drive tires then you basically have a set of chalk blocks that you can winch out of, might be a little bit abusive for your pick up but it works really good with the C 500 kenworths!
I'm glade somebody still has a job in the patch because you know there people out there that want to do away with the patch used to be oilfield trash but got tried of being laid off all the time
Hey Cody? What’s up with RUclips? When I clicked on your video I got a message that read ,” This Content is inappropriate “. What was so inappropriate about this video or any of your videos? I think that they are crazy to put that message on any video you do. I find most of what you do to be helpful and inspiring ! Thx for the knowledge you share to all , and Keep up the good work . God Bless
Cody, we used that same type of lines on tugboats. When we put heavy loads on them we hosed them down with water as a lubricant and a cooling medium. Under tension they create heat.
The kinetic ropes are the only exception for me. I've used them for years. They really are that gentle, Its amazing. He also generally uses solid welded hitches rather than the bolt on ball style that are far more likely to become a 1 lb cannonball on the way to meet the back of your face
He only uses 3 way welded tow hitch with the yankum, that way there’s 3 contact points for recovery. I have the 4 way hitch on my f250 and I’m confident in that hitch with a strap or rope
I got a warning at the beginning of the video... I spent the whole thing waiting to be offended. Turned out to be one one of my favourites and I love the the bits with your family at the end. Thanks for sharing!
That was me the other day! Looks like it's too late for me but if you're reading this there may be time to save yourself...flee, flee I tell you!! 😂🤣😂🤣😆
Your conclusion IS spot-on. Some things a man needs to know to be rounded and skills and basic knowledge that WILL be needed sooner or later. PS Some girls allowed too! Thank You.
When I researched winches, I ended up buying a Mile Marker hydraulic winch for my 2500 Ram. It runs off the pressure generated by the stock Dodge power steering pump. Mine was 9500 lb cap. The beauty of a hydraulic winch, start your truck and you can pull all day. It pulls less than 2 amps of 12 volt power to control the solenoids. You don't need dual batteries or alternators. I installed a 2" receiver on the front, Used quick connects for the 12 volt and for hydraulic lines. Easy on/off of my truck. The weather doesn't beat up my winch, and I only keep the weight on the front end when I'm going to work the winch.
East coast guy here, i got what i think is a 1913 chevorlet classic in the back woods with a tree growing through the engine. It got all of the instrument pannel and its wooden spokes.
Me too. I've been eyeing the Badlands wench since the new mod was released. I almost bought one the same day Cody made the first video. Now I'm headed to Harbor Freight.
My experience is people from the east coast are the ones watching RUclips videos at double speed... man they don’t give anyone anytime to explain anything lol
Looks like a good overall unit. That synthetic line was pushed past its best by limit, but it pulled a half buried truck frame out of a stream bank without giving in. It would be interesting to know the weight it was pulling throughout that extraction.
@@LitheInLitotes he never did a video on this winch which is their "high end" winch. ever review i have seen on this badland apex winch have been good.
Just watching this with my wheelchair bound great grandad who was a logger all his working life ……he suddenly jumped up like a spring jack rabbit and shouted proclaiming……..GOD DAM THATS WHERE I LEFT IT!
That looks like dymax or dyneema. If the strands aren't damaged then the line is probably fine. Fun fact, this kind of rope actually gets stronger over time. On a winch like this hook it up to a big tree or something and gently bring it up to 30-50% tension then release, repeat this over and over, increasing the pull a bit each time. What you're doing is setting the fibers and aligning the strands better giving a higher overall strength. The rope is just flat and crushed like that because it was wrapped so tightly on the winch. You can technically work the rope in your hands and get it soft again but there is no need, it isn't damaged. Source: I work with this kind of rope every day.
As a east coast guy. I just want to say you're going to snap your parking pawl, towing in neutral with the brakes engaged is the safest way to go. I know you winch a lot so i suggest some brake line locks, press your brakes push a button and winch from a safe distance... cheaper to replace brakes than a transmission..
That deforestation is perfectly fine. We use the same type of line offshore as morning lines and the get flatted and hard all the time. And some types are designed to "fluff up" what looks like fraying but it's designed to make its own chief gear in the spots it needs. Once the outside gets furry it won't travel any farther down. A big plus in this application is almost no snapback it it breaks much safer. And easy to carry a back up
Some of these videos I think "Why would anyone want to watch this?" Minutes later, as I'm still watching, I'm mumbling to myself " I wish I were there right at this moment."
I have the older more “economy” 12k winch from harbor freight and i have absolutely drug it through hell. Pulling mostly diesel trucks and heavy equipment, aside from conveniently misplacing controllers, and the occasional corroded terminal it has given me no troubles after 4 hard years of abuse and regular use
@Wranglerstar. Cody. That ending with family and the teenagers really made me both happy and teared up. Great work getting our next generation ready for life. You, Jeriah, and your families are in my daily prayers.
You were correct on your assessment on the red part of the rope. Rule of thumb the less line you have out the better. Less stress on the line and less stress on winch itself
I have a 15k Warn Winch on my truck. Good steel cable is heavy, sharp and can be difficult to work with. Several years ago, prior to my retirement, I swapped out my cable for synthetic line. It was WAY less weight and far easier and safer to use. However I only needed to use it a hand full of times over the years. Much like yours it became melted and deformed very easily. It was sensitive to UV light exposure and is insanely expensive. Once I retired and started using my winch almost weekly on the homestead I quickly changed back to heavy cable line. For all its disadvantages it’s still the best when you are pulling heavy and often. Heck, I even have the wire line on my 4 wheeler and Polaris Ranger winches.
Mine synthetic line is compressed the whole way through at this point and still hasn't snapped yet after a little over a year of use recovering vehicles. Switched over to yankum rope recently for alot of the easier stuff now though.
The only person that has told me to like a video and I actually listen. Funny he said a minute for you east coast guys just as I was hitting the button. Earned a subscriber.
thats a common issue with that new line. It happened to mine, so i called and got a replacement...it did the exact same thing the 2nd time i used it. Winch is great...line is junk. Good video Wranglerstar.
Did you pretension it? It Doesn’t look like there’s anything wrong with it to me, it’s just when he pulled the red out and then spooled it back up without any load on it the next wraps come under load and smashed thru. But that flatness easily works out. Been using synthetic along time and if you touch the line spooled on my winches it’s hard as a rock from me pretensioning it after every use, so it’s ready for next time. Have many years on one line and still going strong.
@Sven3xs 19 here, and embedded in the epitome of good classical country. Had the joy of going to the Cash museum in Nasheville in February as well....Don't let the good stuff die!
It's normal with the synthetic line, dont worry cody! That winch it's going to hold up like a normal rope, just beware when you are using it, that user error is always present in some way or another! And keep the great content
I drive tow truck at a dirt track. My truck has a Badlands winch on it with wire. I’ve never had a problem with it. And yes the wireless controller is a must have.
We use the exact same winch/synthetic line for tree work, climbing, setting ropes, and winching trees away from houses. Our line doesn't look quite as bad as yours did, but still has some decent wear and flat spots in it. Probably needs to be replaced, but I can say we have had no issues with the integrity of the rope. Been using the new synthetic line for probably 5-6 months and for what it's worth it's still doing great. Small frays and flat spots so it probably needs to be replaced, but like I said we have had no issues with using it after it gets a little worn.
A professional homeowner is an all-purpose man, Amen brother. I have many skills to yet add to my tool belt. I feel blessed to have found your channel, God be with you brother, and keep you and your family safe!
That's normal for synthetic line. I run it all the time when logging with it lol next hard pull it will take a different shape when mashed by next layer. I do carry extra lines simply because it's easy compared to wire rope. I plan on setting up the extra to be used as extensions.
A Problem is that GOOD synthetic rope is a lot more expensive than Steel - Lighter Yes, but costly. (Maybe the no-name UHMWPE is as good as the rated (Patented - fibre treatment) versions - Dyneema / Spectra / etc, but you may have to test that out in the field)...
if that line gets so hot when it stretches that it looks like THAT, i wouldn't trust it either. the rope should always be rated higher than the winches capacity anyways.
"If that doesn't give you the fizz..." Adding this to my stolen lingo library. Absolutely amazing. You're the greatest :) and as many have said already, nice alternator flex...LoL
I came to the comments to find out just why this video was labeled with this: "The following content has been identified by the RUclips community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised" I can only guess this is a mistake. I watched the whole thing and found it to be very appropriate, informative and entertaining as well. I enjoy watching this kind of content. I hope Mr. W finds out why and lets us know. I'm very curious about it. I went ahead and clicked on the "Report" link to report this as appropriate and family friendly but there was no option for reporting it as such. Scratching my head.
If I had to guess, it would be that some low forehead thought the shot of Cody riding a motorcycle with his toddler in his lap constituted potential endangerment.
Midwest guy from the flatlands of indohio. You forgot to mention that military grade aluminium body. I fire up the mighty Cummins and the old junk just removes itself for fear that I hook on to yank it out Beautiful truck,sir
As am atheist, I was put off by the ending.... three years ago when I subscribed! I love this guy and what he is doing for young men, and us old guys too. Keep doing you, my brother. Cheers john Edit: three years might be an exaggeration... two at least, hey I said I was old
Offensive Content Warning? When I clicked to watch this video the following warning was on screen "The following content has been identified by the RUclips community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised." It's ridiculous to think someone would flag this video. Fortunately I was able to proceed and watch. Cody, you've said it before there are haters that want to take you/your channel down. It befuddles me why anyone would. I hope to see you continue to produce content on RUclips, or another platform, for years to come! Best to you and your family!
Most synthetic ropes have a first layer of winding protected by a heat resistant layer/sheath to guard against heat soak from the winch. I’m betting when it went out and you reeled it in that the red was pushed to the side and the main rope wrapped on the drum resulting in burning/melting the rope because of the heat generated by the heavy pull..... this would indeed be user error. 😂
@@miken5413 As I consider all the extra work of a synthetic, I realize the wire may be more useful. That said, wire is so much more dangerous to use. See if you can find any Navy videos which show what happens when a wire or cable breaks; it will open your eyes!
@@Harry-zz2oh it really isn’t any more work. The heat wrapped leader is really obvious (usually red), and once you tension the rope the first time, you just never reel it out past the start of the leader again.
@@miken5413 "Extreme Terrain" is the seller for my winch and they had a few videos on safe winching. Another site is the Australian 4x4 group who do great videos on using winches and their demonstrations are superb. One point: always use something to hold the winch line down, even if it's synthetic. It may save a windshield or a nasty cut if it hits you. You can use a couple of coats, blankets, etc. to hold the line down.
From what I recall from talking to winch manufactures and retailers here in the UK at 4x4 shows that red section was heat protection to stop the synthetic rope melting due to the motor or brake heating the spool of the winch during use, as synthetic ropes can melt and snap from excessive heat. Synthetic ropes are good because they are lighter, more flexible than wire rope and with synthetic lines like "Dyneema" if they do fail they snap and don't whip around like wire ropes. The only downsides are UV light can rot the rope and grit can get into the rope and can damage the fibres so need to be washed if used in areas of high grit and mud. So the rope may need to be changed every couple of years. Talking to Gigglepin a company that makes very fast winches for challenge trucks the guys running the challenge trucks will just splice in a new hook if the end of the rope breaks in competition.
I was considering the line after seeing this I will stick to cable. Seems like I'm always the one pulling people out and not getting stuck. Thank you well done 👏
The family looks great! Love the picture with Jack in it, my he's grown over the years! I remember when I first found your channel he was a little guy like my boys are now😮
An old wisdom from the Navy, which uses line for many heavy duty jobs, is to pay attention when the line 'sings'. Breaking a line is a process. A line is composed of many fibers. In order to break, those fibers must break. Though it may appear the line breaks all at once, it does not. Those fibers begin to break first. As the number of breaking fibers begins to increase you can hear them breaking as the line begins to vibrate and 'sing'. Soon after the line breaks. Looking at the number of threads broken on that line I would say that limits have been found.
Pretty common with synthetic winch rope. Have no fear it’s still strong in those areas. The fuzzies are also normal. I’ve had one on my ATV for going on a year now and it looks beat up but still strong as ever.
Thanks for showing us the winch in action. I was thinking about one, but that synthetic line doesn't look good all. I like the wireless feature though. Thanks Cody! 🤙-Josh
Why does it say this video is considered inappropriate when you want to watch it? Some people never grow up. Good video man I like your other videos to about quitting drinking, thats how I found your channel awhile back .
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That melting IS NOT normal. What happened seems to be that when you pulled out a lot of red rope not very much was left on the drum. When you rewound it, it was loose without tension. That in turn caused friction from drum to line and thus significant heat transfer to the line. Synthetic’s melting temp is low at around 150 degrees. Lastly, there is a misconception on synthetic to steel winch lines. Both are dangerous when snapping under load when you don’t use safe winching practices. I went through all these things when I had synthetic and simply put, steel wire is superior, just as safe, far more durable, and significantly longer lasting. Oh, and steel line is cheaper.
But th question is does it give you the fizz?
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I have been told that after each pull you should replace the nylon pull rope. Also keep it covered because most of them break down under the sun light the UV light kills them.
I think the problem with the synthetic line is that it wasn't designed to be used with dual alternators.
Psh!😏
Or loctite.
Definitely the duel alternators!
Atleast it won't slice you in half when it breaks under thousands of pounds of tension.
@@Sajin688 it will just like a normal chaine...
“did I mention I had dual alternators?” Is the greatest dad flex I’ve ever heard
ford guys are so rude
dodge guys are strict
Chevy guys like to never be wrong
my experience
@@dancearoundtheworld5360 quit being a bigot. Chevy guys don’t identify as guys
@Henry Schnelle my daddy worked at the plant. My daddy’s daddy worked there, almost all my uncles and cousins. So heck no I’d never buy one of those things. I know who made em and I wouldn’t drive a damn thing made by my family.
@@justice1911 your what worked there?
@@hadenquillman3762 idk what a “what” is so I can neither confirm or deny that
Working at a rope lab i can tell you that with synthetic ropes (especially when made of dyneema or similar Material) they have very low melting point and the the temp the winch can get is much higher. So its something you have to be mindful is how hot the winch gets. Dyneema has superior abrasion resistance but materials like technora or Kevlar have much higher heat resistance but at the cost of abrasion resistance and price. With Dyneema rope as long as the rope doesn't get too hot like it did in the video and you take good care of it. It can easily last over 10 years. Also once the rope gets melted like that its toast. Dyneema melting point is only 277f
I guess he didn't let the line cool down enough. I'll remember it but I seldom do a "dead" lift.
Great comment, thanks for your insight. I'm seriously looking into this winch as a future add-on for my F150. Any suggestions for how to possibly cool the line if need be? Possibly water spray bar or something like that?
@@southernoregonprospector9074 not unless you can cool the drum itself down. That may be a difference with higher end winches (ones that are made specifically for synthetic lines) vs the harbor freight winches. Where they might do more to help keep the overall temp of the drum down or keep it from heating up. Though a friend of mine has one of these harbor freight winches. But he replaced the line with Saturn-12 from Samson and has had zero problems with it so far. For these you want to go with a high end rope.
@@Wetopie I will note that and keep it in mind, as I'm brand new to winches. Not new to off-roading, but I have found myself in a few situations where having a winch would have come in super handy, and since I plan on making a lot more videos over the next year, I'm thinking I should invest in one. Thanks for the help, it's greatly appreciated!
I agree with synthetic winch line you really need to do that old saying winch for 10 sec rest for 90 sec
I have synthetic line i used to yard fir trees off our San Juan island property on the side of a hill. Lots of rock, dirt, grass abrasives and the line does get furry.
The primary reason why your line burned was because it stretches so you need to wrap it with tension on it otherwise those first loose wraps get crushed with the most power the winch can put out.
You will be happier with the line in the long run, much safer to work alone, not heavy and hard to move around like cable and yes the remote is awesome.
I'm an East coast guy and it absolutely took me that extra second to hit that like button. Couldn't help but laugh. Oh and in case you were wondering that like reminder actually work. It's not that a lot of us don't like your content but it's so easy to get consumed in the great content you're watching and you forget to hit the like. So the reminder is great
East coast guy would have yanked it out with a tow strap, did a few donuts in his field and not spilled a drop of his Miller High Life! 😂
I don't know why he didn't just use the tractor to pull it out.
@@wesman7837 pretty sure it's a winch test!
Safer to not be in the vehicle incase the wire rope snaps comes through the windscreen and cuts your throat.
Remote control winch is best trust me.
Someone please explain this east coast vs west coast guy thing for a non American? Also: What about the guys who live in the middle?
@@nervsouly the guys in the middle. Welllll. There screwed
Deforming of the line comes from it overlapping itself, when you start seeing the red, your supposed to take it back in and make sure it's still in tight formation. If it's not, the line folds over itself and puts pressure on itself, and friction when it's being used. Folding over caused the flattening of the line, friction caused the burning/melting, and the fraying of the line is just a standard wear. Hopefully that helps you understand the problem you have with the line.
the red section is heat treated rope for if the winch gets hot . your suppose to keep it on the spool to protect the line thats not treated.
@Jason Gunn you are supposed to keep it tightly wound up before starting to winch to keep it from causing excess wear, it is entirely user error and if you use synthetic right it will last 10 years easy and its far more safe to work with
Yea you have to preload it before first use. Also looked like you may have been pulling at an extreme angle? The hawse fairlead should only be used for 15* max pulls. But I’m glad you put it to use after the review. Thank you!
As an east coast guy I've seen a few synthetic ropes get pinched like that. I've never witnessed one break. Usually they retake a new shape with the next pull. I've also seen guys swear by wetting the line with a bottle of water to reduce the heat buildup. Keep up with the awesome videos!!
As a fellow south east coast guy. Ive only used 1/4" rope on my sxs. They snap if you yank on them but never seen them do that. I play in mud and water so maybe that gives it lubrication.
@@charlesmackiewicz As another East Coast Fella (although im in the north) ive seen a synthetic cord snap once, and i never want to see it again. Cut a groove in the plastic brush guard under my old Toyota.
I like how I just now watched the unboxing of this winch and your doubts about the wireless remote.. and here you are loving it like you invented the wheel.. just subscribed.. love your enthusiasm.
Cody man I'm from south Carolina and I have to say u crack me up with the " east coast guys" line I know u don't mean anything malicious by it. It's the funniest thing and I appreciate it the most of all the entertainment u put out that's by far the best line.
You could start a new series of videos on restoring that old truck, adding a second alternator.
Brother you got me rolling haha
Wait your thinking about the turbos right?
😂😂😂
Why stop at just 2. Surely the more you add the more power you get out of the engine. Lol 😂😂😂😂😂
The last clips of the family are just awesome. I can see the pride in you, and it is justly deserved. Praying God continues to bless your family.
Make a video on what you found out about the synthetic rope. It is interesting to see what happened, and would enjoy what the manufacturer says; either replace or it is fine.
Its definitely not fine after having melted....needs replaced for sure.
KCS: Did you see the other comments? Most likely exceeded the duty factor. I don't know what the documentation says, but perhaps 10 seconds on, 90 seconds off for cooling.
I worked in a coal mine for a little over 3 months. We used a winch a lot down there, and all very heavy loads. We used nylon line. It was a lot thicker than you just had, it was lots a small braids and i think it was originally white? I never saw one break, but we broke 3/8? chain regularly. One big advantage of the nylon is it doesn't snap back and kill you if it breaks, it falls limply to the ground. When i hooky winch up, i will almost exclusively be using nylon line
... and that is why I use a cable and just put a sweater or a jacket. Works every time and it is proven to work every time. Great video. Thanks Cody
I thought that synthetic line would have snapped under that load... then I remembered you have dual alternators, and knew you'd be fine!
What does dual alternates have to do with strength of rope?
@@dannykimbro6888 sarcasm look it up
@@dannykimbro6888 it's some sort of inside joke, I joined the channel yesterday but my best guess is duel alternators can take you to the moon is back is the idea. Duel alternators means anything can get done.... I think still not sure but I'll laugh along with everyone else so nobody thinks I'm think in the head.... " AHAHAHAHA I GET IT I SWEAR!! ".... lol
@@dannykimbro6888 adds horse power and strengthens every part of the TRUCK that's under pressure. Heck, it even makes the tires last twice as long. That's a BIG MAN TRUCK. Surprise he can even drive that beast without a mustache
@@dannykimbro6888 umm.. its a running joke. His new truck has 2 alternators on it, and Cody mentions it every so often.
a few months ago. " not a fan of wireless I hope I can run it wired in" today "boy I love this wireless" lol
I can see it now.
Cody is surveying his property on the Honda. All of a sudden he slams on the brakes, he says to himself “I found it”... He takes back across the field, runs in the house and tells Mrs. W “I found it”.
Mrs W: Found what?
Cody: I finally found something to pull with the new winch!
Yep! I was thinking the same thing! LOL!
🤣😂🤣🤣🤣
More likely he knew that truck was there ahead of the time and that's why he asked for the wench when HF approached him to receive products to review.
Maybe he should make a short video of this exact scenario! 😂
I love watching your videos 99% of the time but today the comments are the best!
Coming back to this after years. This is a prime example of why you should spool your which under tension. Synthetic or steel.
That was user error. You need to spool synthetic under tension to give it a set, before you spool it. What you're seeing with the flattened rope is because you spooled really tightly over loosely spooled rope. It'll come back, though. Just spool it out until just 7-8 wraps are on the drum, hook it to a tree strap/tree, then 4-lo/reverse/idle, and spool the whole length in under tension. I've been using and skidding logs out of the woods with synthetic for like 10 years. I've got 2 X 100ft steel cable extensions that just sit in the barn, anymore.
How do you keep the line always under tension so this doesn’t happen?
@@outdoorcrazy you spool it under tension and it only loses tension on like 3 wraps when you are holding it. It's just important that the layers below are spoiled under tension.
For sure
When you say "it'll come back, though" you mean that line is salvageable? I honestly don't know - I sling soft serve for a living - and I've never used a winch, much less with synthetic line. That line looked destroyed.
@@chauntikleer yes, it'll come back to round when he puts tension on it again. It'll be fine.
I may only be 17 but I've watched so many of your vids, although the more I watch the more I want to have land and a channel (of course family) like yours. keep up the great content. blessings.
I still remember when mrs. W was like “yeah we need to get a metal brush guard for my safety” and there was a moment of silence before you said “did I mention it has dual alternators”
Thats the coolest part about his truck😂 I would probably tell everyone too.
That was EPIC!
East coast guy here...
You have a lovely family, always enjoy these informative vids, THANKS!
The line smashed it's self and got hot etc. for those who didn't know. I use metal cable only myself unless it's a light duty say for atv, lawn equipment, etc. Anything for heavy duty/weight it's not that good but it's cheaper.
HF Winches are decent quality, but they skimped a lot on the synthetic rope it comes with. This is the same issue i had with mine when i installed it on my Mahindra Roxor UTV. I bought replacement from amazon as backup, 3rd pull the HF rope failed on me so i replaced it with Amazon replacement... it was the same crappy china junk quality. I reached out to a friend of mine who does sail boat racing asking about the rope they use on their sail boats, he told me to order some REAL Dyneema made by Amsteel Blue, so i did and it was night and day different. The only drawback was i had to buy a needle kit to sow the rope on a clevis, but it was easy to do and fun to learn how to sow rope properly. Ive been running the Dyneema rope now for just over a year and winched with it probably over 50 times in that time and it shows no signs of failure or issues. I used the black rope sleeve from the cheap replacement line on the Dyneema rope and its been great. Highly stress spending a little extra on quality rope. A fellow UTV buddy of mine tried to buy a premade "dyneema" winch rope set off amazon, it was fake dyneema. It was very different in appearance and had a nylon core we noticed and was much heavier than real dyneema... his already broke, so he purchased the real stuff like me and has been super happy with it.
I remember in the install video thinking "I wonder if he's going to spool out the rope and rewrap it under tension?" This is common practice for synthetic rope to prevent the rope that doesn't get pulled all the way out from spinning on the spool under tension of later coils. This is not something you have to do with steel cables.
Idk about that. When I bought my first winch with steel cable the directions said to spool the cable under 500lbs of pressure and I did but after using it once I spooled it back in just pulling on it by hand and next time I used it the cable was binding between itself on the drum. Didn’t cause issues at the time but when I tried to pull the line back out I couldn’t, had to hook to it with another winch to pull it out lol.
"I know its tempting. But don't use your trailer ball for pulling. It's not designed for that." 😂
I know what he meant, but I had a good chuckle lol
I thought it was pretty funny 😆 too!
Would like to say I really enjoy your videos even the ones that do not apply to myself! What I would like to thank you most for and I'm not a religious man but I do instill the values on my children. I appreciate the blessing and prayer given at the end of all the videos! Thank and bless you also!
Cruzen family
I love the little family sequence at the end of this video! Touching. Your family is always in my prayers
"I got it one piece at a time" you can never go wrong when you quote Johnny Cash
I'm an East Cost guy,hit like before you mentioned, not all of us are meth heads
Us East Coasters are always 3 hours ahead of those left coast guys. So we can hit that thumbs up before he can even post.
Oregon voted to decriminalize meth, opioids and and other hard drugs, so the meth heads are strong on the left coast
Right
No there’s a few crackheads thrown in also !
I’m East Coast also and get to deal with the fools and idiots every day
East "cost"guys are "MEATHEADS".
I spent most of the winter towing service rigs and other big trucks up hills in northern Alberta whenever I started to slide backwards while winching with the bed truck I would spin holes in the ground with my drive tires then you basically have a set of chalk blocks that you can winch out of, might be a little bit abusive for your pick up but it works really good with the C 500 kenworths!
I'm glade somebody still has a job in the patch because you know there people out there that want to do away with the patch used to be oilfield trash but got tried of being laid off all the time
@@kirbyparmer3295 Yes this winter was actually very busy for me it was a very good and fun... even the few days of -55°C with wind at Hamburg!😂
Hey Cody? What’s up with RUclips? When I clicked on your video I got a message that read ,” This Content is inappropriate “. What was so inappropriate about this video or any of your videos? I think that they are crazy to put that message on any video you do. I find most of what you do to be helpful and inspiring ! Thx for the knowledge you share to all , and Keep up the good work . God Bless
I got the same notice.
Cody, we used that same type of lines on tugboats. When we put heavy loads on them we hosed them down with water as a lubricant and a cooling medium. Under tension they create heat.
"I know it's tempting but don't use the trailer ball".. *slowly looks over to Matts Offroad Recovery*
The kinetic ropes are the only exception for me. I've used them for years. They really are that gentle, Its amazing. He also generally uses solid welded hitches rather than the bolt on ball style that are far more likely to become a 1 lb cannonball on the way to meet the back of your face
Yank um ropes. He would get the fizz with one of those.
Ha ha I was thinking the same thing!!
MOOR doesn't use one ball, he uses 3, and they're welded solid. Apples to oranges. Also, he mostly uses the pintle hitch now
He only uses 3 way welded tow hitch with the yankum, that way there’s 3 contact points for recovery. I have the 4 way hitch on my f250 and I’m confident in that hitch with a strap or rope
I got a warning at the beginning of the video... I spent the whole thing waiting to be offended. Turned out to be one one of my favourites and I love the the bits with your family at the end. Thanks for sharing!
You know you watch Cody to much when you start saying “ that’s about how a professional home owner would do it”
So at what point does the professional homeowner reach for the ANFO?
You too huh?
That was me the other day!
Looks like it's too late for me but if you're reading this there may be time to save yourself...flee, flee I tell you!!
😂🤣😂🤣😆
It's a great trademark slogan to add to his branding.
@@jean-yvesmead3972 For us amateur homeowners, what's a ANFO?
Your conclusion IS spot-on. Some things a man needs to know to be rounded and skills and basic knowledge that WILL be needed sooner or later.
PS Some girls allowed too!
Thank You.
When I researched winches, I ended up buying a Mile Marker hydraulic winch for my 2500 Ram. It runs off the pressure generated by the stock Dodge power steering pump. Mine was 9500 lb cap. The beauty of a hydraulic winch, start your truck and you can pull all day. It pulls less than 2 amps of 12 volt power to control the solenoids. You don't need dual batteries or alternators. I installed a 2" receiver on the front, Used quick connects for the 12 volt and for hydraulic lines. Easy on/off of my truck. The weather doesn't beat up my winch, and I only keep the weight on the front end when I'm going to work the winch.
East coast guy here, i got what i think is a 1913 chevorlet classic in the back woods with a tree growing through the engine. It got all of the instrument pannel and its wooden spokes.
You don’t know how much I was waiting for this video
Me too. I've been eyeing the Badlands wench since the new mod was released. I almost bought one the same day Cody made the first video. Now I'm headed to Harbor Freight.
when you are from the east coast and it actually does take a few more seconds to hit the thumbs up :(
My experience is people from the east coast are the ones watching RUclips videos at double speed... man they don’t give anyone anytime to explain anything lol
...truth be told... that stung a bit as I heard it while clicking the thumbs up 😆
LOL
@@aceggkspade958 literally just watched this in 1.75x speed although im from KY so not exactly east coast
Lol, it did happen to me too
You have a beautiful family. You are a truly blessed man. Keep doing what you are doing!
Nothing quite like the feeling when you got a new piece of equipment and find the perfect opportunity to use it. You are really living the good life.
You need to put that "did I mention I have dual alternators" line onto a t-shirt
Looks like a good overall unit. That synthetic line was pushed past its best by limit, but it pulled a half buried truck frame out of a stream bank without giving in. It would be interesting to know the weight it was pulling throughout that extraction.
This guy has been wasting our time while Project farm just demonstated that Harbor Freight Winches are trash compared to the rest.
@@LitheInLitotes he never did a video on this winch which is their "high end" winch. ever review i have seen on this badland apex winch have been good.
@@LitheInLitotes pretty sure his video was the apex 5500, project farm
Just watching this with my wheelchair bound great grandad who was a logger all his working life ……he suddenly jumped up like a spring jack rabbit and shouted proclaiming……..GOD DAM THATS WHERE I LEFT IT!
I’m honored to be the first person to comment on this comment. This made me laugh way to hard!
Way hard!
God bless the loggers . Earth first , we’ll log the other planets later
That looks like dymax or dyneema. If the strands aren't damaged then the line is probably fine. Fun fact, this kind of rope actually gets stronger over time. On a winch like this hook it up to a big tree or something and gently bring it up to 30-50% tension then release, repeat this over and over, increasing the pull a bit each time. What you're doing is setting the fibers and aligning the strands better giving a higher overall strength. The rope is just flat and crushed like that because it was wrapped so tightly on the winch. You can technically work the rope in your hands and get it soft again but there is no need, it isn't damaged.
Source: I work with this kind of rope every day.
As a east coast guy. I just want to say you're going to snap your parking pawl, towing in neutral with the brakes engaged is the safest way to go. I know you winch a lot so i suggest some brake line locks, press your brakes push a button and winch from a safe distance... cheaper to replace brakes than a transmission..
That deforestation is perfectly fine. We use the same type of line offshore as morning lines and the get flatted and hard all the time. And some types are designed to "fluff up" what looks like fraying but it's designed to make its own chief gear in the spots it needs. Once the outside gets furry it won't travel any farther down. A big plus in this application is almost no snapback it it breaks much safer. And easy to carry a back up
Some of these videos I think "Why would anyone want to watch this?" Minutes later, as I'm still watching, I'm mumbling to myself " I wish I were there right at this moment."
I hear ya! Me too! LOL!
Next up "Cody Restores 1930's logging truck..."
Don't judge all synthetic lines on the one that comes with a HF winch.
Cheers from Tokyo!
That was cute when you had the little one on the bike. Make some good memories she won't forget. The good stuff!
I saw that and was thinking I could spend some time with my little backhoe clearing roots and stuff before pulling it out.
I have the older more “economy” 12k winch from harbor freight and i have absolutely drug it through hell. Pulling mostly diesel trucks and heavy equipment, aside from conveniently misplacing controllers, and the occasional corroded terminal it has given me no troubles after 4 hard years of abuse and regular use
Same here I have 2 of them and have never been easy on them. Everyone always talks smack about hf winches but I’ve never seen or heard of one failing.
@Wranglerstar. Cody. That ending with family and the teenagers really made me both happy and teared up. Great work getting our next generation ready for life.
You, Jeriah, and your families are in my daily prayers.
You were correct on your assessment on the red part of the rope. Rule of thumb the less line you have out the better. Less stress on the line and less stress on winch itself
I have a 15k Warn Winch on my truck. Good steel cable is heavy, sharp and can be difficult to work with. Several years ago, prior to my retirement, I swapped out my cable for synthetic line. It was WAY less weight and far easier and safer to use. However I only needed to use it a hand full of times over the years. Much like yours it became melted and deformed very easily. It was sensitive to UV light exposure and is insanely expensive.
Once I retired and started using my winch almost weekly on the homestead I quickly changed back to heavy cable line. For all its disadvantages it’s still the best when you are pulling heavy and often.
Heck, I even have the wire line on my 4 wheeler and Polaris Ranger winches.
Its really nice to see Jack being a kid. He so often seems much older then he is
Newspaper from the 1930’s, “The murder would be solved if they would only find the vehicle...”
Mine synthetic line is compressed the whole way through at this point and still hasn't snapped yet after a little over a year of use recovering vehicles. Switched over to yankum rope recently for alot of the easier stuff now though.
The only person that has told me to like a video and I actually listen. Funny he said a minute for you east coast guys just as I was hitting the button. Earned a subscriber.
thats a common issue with that new line. It happened to mine, so i called and got a replacement...it did the exact same thing the 2nd time i used it. Winch is great...line is junk. Good video Wranglerstar.
Did you pretension it? It Doesn’t look like there’s anything wrong with it to me, it’s just when he pulled the red out and then spooled it back up without any load on it the next wraps come under load and smashed thru. But that flatness easily works out. Been using synthetic along time and if you touch the line spooled on my winches it’s hard as a rock from me pretensioning it after every use, so it’s ready for next time. Have many years on one line and still going strong.
He said “Well wait an extra second for the east coast guys” I was hitting the like button... it’s like he was watching me.
I always 🤣 when there mentioned
6:57 "I got it one piece at a time..." haha, perfect use of that Cash reference.
@Sven3xs 19 here, and embedded in the epitome of good classical country. Had the joy of going to the Cash museum in Nasheville in February as well....Don't let the good stuff die!
“And it didn’t cost me a dime”
It's normal with the synthetic line, dont worry cody! That winch it's going to hold up like a normal rope, just beware when you are using it, that user error is always present in some way or another! And keep the great content
I drive tow truck at a dirt track. My truck has a Badlands winch on it with wire. I’ve never had a problem with it. And yes the wireless controller is a must have.
We use the exact same winch/synthetic line for tree work, climbing, setting ropes, and winching trees away from houses. Our line doesn't look quite as bad as yours did, but still has some decent wear and flat spots in it. Probably needs to be replaced, but I can say we have had no issues with the integrity of the rope. Been using the new synthetic line for probably 5-6 months and for what it's worth it's still doing great. Small frays and flat spots so it probably needs to be replaced, but like I said we have had no issues with using it after it gets a little worn.
A professional homeowner is an all-purpose man, Amen brother. I have many skills to yet add to my tool belt. I feel blessed to have found your channel, God be with you brother, and keep you and your family safe!
That's normal for synthetic line. I run it all the time when logging with it lol next hard pull it will take a different shape when mashed by next layer. I do carry extra lines simply because it's easy compared to wire rope. I plan on setting up the extra to be used as extensions.
A Problem is that GOOD synthetic rope is a lot more expensive than Steel - Lighter Yes, but costly. (Maybe the no-name UHMWPE is as good as the rated (Patented - fibre treatment) versions - Dyneema / Spectra / etc, but you may have to test that out in the field)...
About what size of tree trunk can you pull with it like a skid, ty
@@pistolwhipped7714 Depends entirely on how you rig it up.
Deformation is just aesthetics. I have never seen one fail that wasn't cut.
if that line gets so hot when it stretches that it looks like THAT, i wouldn't trust it either. the rope should always be rated higher than the winches capacity anyways.
RUclips unsubscribed me from your Channel. I've been watching you for a while and really appreciate all of your videos.
"If that doesn't give you the fizz..."
Adding this to my stolen lingo library. Absolutely amazing.
You're the greatest :) and as many have said already, nice alternator flex...LoL
Great video. According to RUclips the single alternator trucks have found this offensive. 🤣
I came to the comments to find out just why this video was labeled with this: "The following content has been identified by the RUclips community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised"
I can only guess this is a mistake. I watched the whole thing and found it to be very appropriate, informative and entertaining as well. I enjoy watching this kind of content. I hope Mr. W finds out why and lets us know. I'm very curious about it.
I went ahead and clicked on the "Report" link to report this as appropriate and family friendly but there was no option for reporting it as such. Scratching my head.
If I had to guess, it would be that some low forehead thought the shot of Cody riding a motorcycle with his toddler in his lap constituted potential endangerment.
Probably because he talks about god and praying at the end, you know how all those techies and algorithms get scared when you reference religion
Cotton bandana on the license plate is very on-brand for Wranglerstar. Love it!
but we all know it's WRNGLSTR
@@rjunk12349 or WC4LF
@@chadmyers09 or SWTLF
He had to find some use for those things
@Sven3xs meh, you can catch it on the back at 1:10 if you're so inclined.
Midwest guy from the flatlands of indohio. You forgot to mention that military grade aluminium body.
I fire up the mighty Cummins and the old junk just removes itself for fear that I hook on to yank it out
Beautiful truck,sir
How could RUclips deem this video inappropriate? Thumbs up!
As am atheist, I was put off by the ending.... three years ago when I subscribed!
I love this guy and what he is doing for young men, and us old guys too.
Keep doing you, my brother.
Cheers john
Edit: three years might be an exaggeration... two at least, hey I said I was old
Thank you John,
It's kinda cool to see how fast the comments fill, got a wonderful family bro. peace
The Victorinox nail clipper arrived, my new EDC.
Gonna order another one so i have Dual EDC clippers.
Keep up the good work !!
Ordered mine a few days ago, waiting for them to arrive
Offensive Content Warning? When I clicked to watch this video the following warning was on screen "The following content has been identified by the RUclips community as inappropriate or offensive to some audiences. Viewer discretion is advised." It's ridiculous to think someone would flag this video. Fortunately I was able to proceed and watch. Cody, you've said it before there are haters that want to take you/your channel down. It befuddles me why anyone would. I hope to see you continue to produce content on RUclips, or another platform, for years to come! Best to you and your family!
I'd like to go on the record in saying that as an east coast guy, I hit the thumbs up before the extra time allotted!!!
Most synthetic ropes have a first layer of winding protected by a heat resistant layer/sheath to guard against heat soak from the winch. I’m betting when it went out and you reeled it in that the red was pushed to the side and the main rope wrapped on the drum resulting in burning/melting the rope because of the heat generated by the heavy pull..... this would indeed be user error. 😂
Thanks for the explanation. I’m getting my synthetic line winch next week. Glad to know this tip
@@miken5413 As I consider all the extra work of a synthetic, I realize the wire may be more useful. That said, wire is so much more dangerous to use. See if you can find any Navy videos which show what happens when a wire or cable breaks; it will open your eyes!
@@Harry-zz2oh it really isn’t any more work. The heat wrapped leader is really obvious (usually red), and once you tension the rope the first time, you just never reel it out past the start of the leader again.
@@Harry-zz2oh thanks for the info. Safety is my first priority since my son or daughters may be operating the winch. Going with synthetic
@@miken5413 "Extreme Terrain" is the seller for my winch and they had a few videos on safe winching. Another site is the Australian 4x4 group who do great videos on using winches and their demonstrations are superb. One point: always use something to hold the winch line down, even if it's synthetic. It may save a windshield or a nasty cut if it hits you. You can use a couple of coats, blankets, etc. to hold the line down.
Just in case you did not realize it, your truck has dual alternators. Figured you may want to know that.
And, Ben Shapiros wife is a doctor I hear.
Jeremy McClure hahahaha
I really like the family picture at the end. Pretty sweet suspenders matching that tie. Looks good
Thanks Ace
From what I recall from talking to winch manufactures and retailers here in the UK at 4x4 shows that red section was heat protection to stop the synthetic rope melting due to the motor or brake heating the spool of the winch during use, as synthetic ropes can melt and snap from excessive heat.
Synthetic ropes are good because they are lighter, more flexible than wire rope and with synthetic lines like "Dyneema" if they do fail they snap and don't whip around like wire ropes. The only downsides are UV light can rot the rope and grit can get into the rope and can damage the fibres so need to be washed if used in areas of high grit and mud. So the rope may need to be changed every couple of years.
Talking to Gigglepin a company that makes very fast winches for challenge trucks the guys running the challenge trucks will just splice in a new hook if the end of the rope breaks in competition.
I was considering the line after seeing this I will stick to cable. Seems like I'm always the one pulling people out and not getting stuck. Thank you well done 👏
The family looks great! Love the picture with Jack in it, my he's grown over the years! I remember when I first found your channel he was a little guy like my boys are now😮
I appreciate your patience for us clicking the thumbs up.
Do we get a follow up video on using the backhoe attachment removing the other half still buried I the bank?
Would love to see that.
Way to go Harbor Freight! That winch looks like a winner at 1/3 cost of a Warn.
An old wisdom from the Navy, which uses line for many heavy duty jobs, is to pay attention when the line 'sings'. Breaking a line is a process. A line is composed of many fibers. In order to break, those fibers must break. Though it may appear the line breaks all at once, it does not. Those fibers begin to break first. As the number of breaking fibers begins to increase you can hear them breaking as the line begins to vibrate and 'sing'. Soon after the line breaks. Looking at the number of threads broken on that line I would say that limits have been found.
"And it didn't cost me a dime, You'll know it's me when I roll through your town"
Pretty common with synthetic winch rope. Have no fear it’s still strong in those areas. The fuzzies are also normal. I’ve had one on my ATV for going on a year now and it looks beat up but still strong as ever.
Thanks for showing us the winch in action. I was thinking about one, but that synthetic line doesn't look good all. I like the wireless feature though. Thanks Cody! 🤙-Josh
User error nothing wrong with the synthetic just Cody
Why does it say this video is considered inappropriate when you want to watch it? Some people never grow up. Good video man I like your other videos to about quitting drinking, thats how I found your channel awhile back .
This is the best possible review of this thing