Upper Skill Level Giga vs Spino Strategy/Counterplay - The Isle Legacy Gameplay
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sticky: awww baby spinos... *proceeds to kill their mom*
just because i asked! you are so beatifullllll my man! kkkkk thnx for this lesson, i love to learn and watch all your videos! =***
Awwwww Baby spinos ...... ur cuter when ur orphans
i mean the momma spino is the one who went for sticky
This is one of the matchups I lose a lot and why I avoid spoons as a giga. Thanks for explaining the ins & outs, I definitely need to be better at utilizing giga sprint turning mid fight. Encountered many spoons who counter me by retaining ambush, turning around as I run through and simply riding my behind and it feels like there's nothing I can do to shake them off nor escape. Keep up the great entertainment!
eu iria te explicar como matalos de forma bem facil mas fiquei com preguiça :0
I really need to try this game, but enjoy just watching these videos. I'm not the best gamer but it looks like a lot of fun. But keep up the great work your videos are very entertaining.
A large portion of the video has nothing to do wg0 with other players. Also, not every fight has to be a fair 1v1! A lot of fights take place from a place of ambush. Do try the game, I say!
So hard trust. It's just that he is a GOD at The Isle
Most of the game is just growing your Dino unless you're on a server where you can buy a grow. Obviously it's not entertaining to watch (or play lmao) so he doesn't show that side of the game
I love the game but if you're used to fast paced games with challenges/objectives this will be very slow for you. A lot of the game (especially on a 5.5hour giga grow) is spent quickly hunting for food/water and then finding a bush to hide in. Repeat lol.
@@EpicStatius afk growing just as boring as buying a fully grown dino tbh
Spino has a counter to turning gigas as well although it's a bit hard to do and it's debatable whether it's a bug or not.
Basically while running with ambush speed you keep your finger on the sprint key and tap forward multiple times in quick successions while looking in the direction you want to turn.
By doing that you'll turn almost as well as if you were walking all while keeping your ambush speed since you didn't let go of your sprint key.
Exactly, that’s why you don’t run turn and trot turn to do another run through insteaddd
Even without that spino can still win the fight when they stand still unless bad hit reg just keep biting and do good angle.but still the thing u explain the best way to end geiger life.
@@jaimelannister6446 sheesh Jaime yeah I agree, this works on 90% or more of spoons tho, cuz they take quite a bit to chase after you
@@kingt075 ahhh its jaigan lol, yeah only on dm i just keep on chasing until i run out stamina then stand still lol, usually i end up on 4th screen and i dont care cause nothing to prove as spoony cause spoony have to win against gaga
@@jaimelannister6446 indeeed
Lol those spino babies were actually my kids, glad I happened to be healing away from N Twins when this happened xD
Nicely done! I love that these videos are entertaining and educational at the same time.
a spino can actually counter this... I know, counter, counter, counter, I think there is another counter somewhere in there
so basically, if you hold shift and tap a/d fast you basically turn like you have z walk and what holding shift does is it keeps your ambush.
Good thing is, its pretty hard to practice, and not many spinos know it, but since 95% of hunting ground players are highly skilled, make sure to keep that in mind.
Ive done this with the spino beforr, but i think its just a de-sync issue. Ive done it on accident a bunch of times with the giga and the spino, and you essentially rubber band around, but its only on your screen. To everyone else, it still looks like youre turning as normal.
In my experience, the best way to counter this is to wait for them to sprint turn, z-turn>sprint-bites.
You dont stack as much bleed as the giga (obviously) but you land bites in and you can still pressure with trotting. Its not 100% effective, cuz they can always just run in a straight line or change direction, but it gives you a fighting chance at least
@@liamatte actually spino and giga do about the same bleed to each other. Also if you dont count in bleed and assume they are trading bites evenly, the spino will actualy win
@@pipspupsi6673 giga does way more bleed and bite dmg you’re drunk
@@drizz7830 yeah but spino has way more health and weighs more so the damage that the giga does is reduced.
@@cameronochocki634
Even so, the giga is still a hefty bastard. Giga can easy bleed a spino, but spino has so many defensive tools that it usually doesnt matter.
Ik the spino does a lot of bleed, but its primarily because of his weight (unfortunately i have to know this because i play dilo) and since the giga is so heavy its actually not that much. Bite for bite, giga deals like, almost twice as much bleed. Spino does more damage, giga does more bleed, which is why spinos need to ride gigas to stack more bleed.
Didn’t know about the giga counter to the spino turning and chasing you down with ambush!! Ty that really helps even though I’ve had the same experience as you where most spoons don’t know to do that.
That strategy is so common now thanks to a friend of mine who's one of the best giga mains that a lot of spino mains learned to counter it
Can you tell me how the spinos you know counter it pls ?
I know of a way but it's king of usebuggy
this dude named imperium is a god at that strategy and im my opinion he is the best giga main in the isle.
yeah ik imperium he is a giga god its scary at this point
@@mentalmanager-g7h where can i find him, ive heard people in new beginnings dm talking about him but i wanna fight him as a spoon i think im decent
@@GOLUBV9DD i found him on roar its where all the skilled people practice
I watched right before I went for a spino on survival. Ended up killing it, thanks for the video :D
I wanted to tell you this a long time ago, when you are in ambush and you want to look in the character menu, this is what u want to do to not lose the ambush: press escape and then character, u wont lose the ambush, oh and if u want to leave the character menu, press escape, if u press insert or what keybind u set it on, u'll lose the ambush.
I hope after they complete evrima in 37 years they still keep legacy because I still really like legacy and it would be nice to have the option to switch it up every once in a while
LOL! I agree!
They will keep legacy but evrima will be the default branch.
damn good fight again Sticky. you truly are an amazing Giga player ( and all Dinos for that matter ) Loved learning something new about the Giga...I had mostly lost using a Giga vs. Spinos and now I know why! def looking forward to another fight using what you have laid down in this video! Cheers and keep up the good work my dude
Here goes sticky once again playing all my mains and making them look top tier.
2:08 baby spoons… tea spoons if you will.
Ayee, I like that xD
4:12 Im sorry but after watching tons of memes. The android notification sound got me rolling on the ground 😂
If the crocodile does not let go of shift and changes direction it can reposition and catch you very easily. It’s like a Utah z turn when spino stops but holds shift it changes direction and easily will get you, spino has frontal drag bite hitbox very big (an experienced spino will double the hitbox range size, however if he simply bites without using camera angles it will miss 50% of his bites, like vs a Utah that jumps you point camera up... same thing here but targeting the tail of the giga) if spino shakes camera forward the right way to catch the higher tip of the tail which the hitbox will target while aimed higher it will easily hit the giga, and game over. You good sticky and this is how your supposed to fight but in the isle if you haven’t played enough the Dino you never gonna know if it wins or not, I played many and know this from experience, because I too tried that tactic but unfortunately against good spinos and the broken legacy the spino easily counters the giga tactic in every way. I hate the shift glitch and the hitboxes in this game, so many fights are not balanced against every Dino, some Dinos have better hitboxes which are very broken but work vs 1 Dino but don’t work against another dino... and makes it a lot unfair...is just the legacy.
bro yeah its op, sticky as usual fought a bad player
@@mentalmanager-g7h is overpowered and not a balanced Dino, a broken Dino like Rex in many ways but even worse because of its z turn and over health. Spino anyway is a sandbox Dino and should not be expected to be calibrated in any way... I mean I don’t have to say much, it’s the legacy. The game where you use bugs and glitches to win
@@triplegunZ yeah Ik a a few giga mains that ruin me but it very oo
Just got into the isle 5 days ago. Huge fan of your videos. Enjoyed it tremendously!
You can keep the ambush while turning very sharply as the spino, you just need to hold the shift button and spam A or D depending where you wanna turn. That makes the fight pretty much impossible for the giga
Nope giga still turns better
@@drizz7830 no... 😐
Gigas do not out turn spinos.
@@LethalLegacy197 they do while sprinting
@@dyingdino2743 there’s a bug to make spinos turn wuicker
holy hell sticky, ive been hoping for this. Get out of my head.
Thanks ^^
Hi, do you mind if I ask what kind of timer did you used for healing ticks?
Something I use is the steam overlay- you can count at what second that the heal tick takes place and press shit+tab to check periodically. For example, if my healing tick was at 43 seconds into the minute I could keep pressing shift+tab to see my steam overlay which has a clock in the top left to see when that 43 seconds is coming
Sticky I love your videos and I love your hunting grounds server. You are to the Isle, what “Farket” and “The Outer Middle show” are to The Forest. You make the game that much more enjoyable.
Spino can counter that method by letting go of w while keeping hold of shift(while in z walk mode) and tapping "a" left or "s" right and it makes them turn a lot quicker. They could also raise their mouse to land extra tail nips. Definitely takes a few tries to get used to it though. Often mistake I've done is not doing the turning thing quick enough.
Most impressive about sticky's fight is that he does them in high 20s and low 30s fps XD
I don’t get why everyone hangs around twin lakes but there is always people there
Counter to your counters counter. If a giga is ambush turning like that, instead of chasing full speed you keep them moving as much as possible at a higher speed stage than you, making them bleed more than you for longer time with a lower health pool.
Sheeesh another great commentary!
hey legend, why is the fps so low between 30-40 ? I think if its locked above 60+ fps you would do so much better than usual
ps: when I said usual it means better than everyone btw
there is noooo way, i would win as a spino against a giga with closed eyes, its outstanding what u show us!
Something too note about the Giga V Spino MU: If a Spino just keeps running at you and you're basically "jousting", the Giga wins. Spinos heal bleed fast but their bleed resist is really bad. I've done a lot of labbing with Giga back when I legacy isle was my life and ik a shit ton about Giga and just about every MU inside and out. Gotta say Giga Vs Spino and Giga Vs Shant are two extremely fun mus.
You also only ever need ambush if the Spino is getting ambush. If Spino isn't getting ambush/ambushing then ambush on yourself hurts more cause you're already faster, burning more stam, taking more bleed damage and also giving the Spino a moment to recognize more options.
Meanwhile an adult giga dies by a rex in the background
Spino lost the second it made the mistake of running around after the first bite encounter
love ur videos sticky, stay healthy and kepp doing ur thing.
They can hold sprint to keep there ambush that way it turns fastet
Bro I used to think it was way easier for Spoons because they can just turn but then I learned that gigas can run through it so I thought it was easier for the Gigas and then I learned that spoons had faster ambush so I thought it was in the spoons favour and now ik the gigs can sprint turn bro this is way more complex than I thought
spoons ambush isnt faster but it last longer.
Nice video sticky, I’m not good at giga so this was helpful!
I really want this game on console although I do love watching people play this game
Absoluetely Brilliant strategy and Giga gameplay!
YES it’s my favorite fight giga vs spino
really enjoy your content, pls keep with your amount actually
Great video sticky, although there is another counter the spino can do to what u have shown in this video. Not many spinos know this tho so it's a rare sight
Damn that spino did everything right but these some good ass Gigas always defeat spino like I once lost 3 times straight to a good giga player
Now we are talking sticky!!! Now your speaking my language
I like ur videos allot they make me smile and be educated
awww thanks bro this was so helpful
I got a vid on my channel (not tryna plug) about how giga can actually double bite and bully spino, u might be on late 3rd to early 4th tho lol
just a question, we can die by the bleed when we are sit or no ?
Nice! Thanks a lot!
sticky do you know how to fix the turning glitch with the giga?
been playing evrima since it came out, its amazing but i need to revisit legacy for sentimental reasons
Super useful info!
thanks sticky ive recently grown a giga and ive wanted to 1v1 a spino
Yes, this is a counter method but this wasn’t the best way of doing it. You could have turned earlier and waited for him to run at you and run thorough instead of rubbing away. Also when you started turning, you’re supposed to keep turning until you make a full circle and when there’s a gap you can run through or run away. Not the best spino but nice job showing this i guess. Also the spino can just hold shift and tap w to hold it’s ambush and keep turning but there’s a counter to that I’m too lazy to explain
What server is this?
He should have just stood still and the giga would have bled out
Sticky whats your server name? Please anyone who know?
How many cost to play the isle
20 dollar
With tax approximately 22. The game is 19.99 on steam but steam has tax so usually 21.(and some cents) so 22.
If your too lazy too look that up yourself than id recommend not purcha this game.
Do you restore the Dinos after you kill them?
Yes he does . In this case the spino rage quit and won’t end up getting his Dino back
@@MaccyLing how do you know?
or i think gigas can use spinos slow healing capability but that will be a long hunt i presume.
how can you play on 20 fps??
Very nice
Hey Sticky!! This isn't a bad strategy by any means. This is what I would teach a guy who hasn't really played Giga vs Spoon. However theres a counterplay you can do with Spoon. If you are in ambush hold shift and tap w a bit and turn your mouse(or press a/d slightly and hold shift) and you can turn better than a giga in ambush that turning if you do it correctly. The Spoon should've used a bit less stamina aswell. thers also multiple points where the Spoon could've hit you with tail nips. Again not a bad strategy but theres better ways to kill a Spoon. I'm in a clan that knows how to fight spoons as Gigas very well
Epic sticky hallo
gj sticky. can you plz mack a dethmach server plz plz😁😁😁
Bro if i see one more Person saying spino is broken its war , if it loses to a giga like that its not broken
Could giganotosaurus face tank the spinosaurus?
Negative, spino wins facetank fight
@@StickyUtah that's stupidly inaccurate, but that's just every dinosaur game I suppose. Could rex face tank spino though?
@@GigaIsBetter nah, Rex also loses to spino in a face tank
Nah, this game is not it bruh.
@@GigaIsBetter As someone with over 900 hours I can confirm, this game is not it.
wonderfull
As spoon I win 95% of the time, that was a bad giga
*spoon
@@Jtoosmooth theres a giga named imperium whos godlike also luca animal is also very very good at giga
@@GOLUBV9DD ye I've beat th before, they've beaten me but those are the only 2 giga s I die to
Against unskilled spinos you don't even need a double bite run^^
Maybe in enivrma Spino will be stronger than giga, in other words spino gets damage buff
Day 1 of waiting for cerato seiries
There is a strat for a spino to counter even this counter but not gonna spoil it lmao 😂
Acrocanthosaurus
Cool bro 😃
Damm I need to find my gaming laptop , pray for me boys i need my mom to return it lmao
I dont think giga can win against spino, only if the spino make mistake they will lose the fight
I feel bad for the juvi spinos
why lmao
@@tacticalr1985 cause they are single now
@@tacticalr1985 Gotta hunt for themselves (juvi spinos are slow af even when sprinting) and they don't have any protection
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Cuidado
Early!
Ya this strat wouldn't work on my spoon :) nothing a giga can really do against a shift tapping spino that tail nips and angles correctly
1v1 Luca_animal or Imperium they are the best gigas i know
@@GOLUBV9DD i have many many times, I whoop them, we're in the same clan
Well Luca isn't but me and imperium are
First ;)
first
Evrima is going to be so boring with diets compared to these epic battles
Ppl still follow and play this crap? Only been like 7 yrs since it came out in development
Different people enjoy different things, can't fault them for it :/