Shooting left and low with a handgun

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  • Shooting left and low with a handgun. It's common if you're a right handed shooter, and lefty's often go low and right. Some problems can be flinching, anticipating recoil. Here's some suggestions to improve your accuracy with a handgun or pistol. Thumbs forward grip.
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  • @ExpatGringo
    @ExpatGringo 7 лет назад +148

    48 years of shooting handguns, numerous classes, IPDA contests, HUNDREDS of shooting videos, etc. etc. and the whole time I didn't notice I had a GAP between my support hand and the grip??? How the hell...??? I followed your advice and could not believe the difference. I felt like I had WAY more control and grip on the gun; I can't wait to get to the range. It's as if I've been using the dull side of a knife to cut my steaks and you suddenly appeared and flipped the knife in my hand. OK, maybe I'm getting carried away, but thank you VERY much.

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад +6

      I hope that you find it helps you. Thanks for watching!

    • @whatcanilearnhere9158
      @whatcanilearnhere9158 5 лет назад +5

      same here, 30 years of shooting and never noticed although no gap, i was not applying ANY pressure with support hand DOH, how frustrating

  • @vtxdaryl
    @vtxdaryl 4 месяца назад +2

    Glad I saw your video, I just ordered new sights for my Ruger LCP Max because I’m shooting low and left. I am 76 but you’re never too old to learn.

  • @mikehatch1967
    @mikehatch1967 2 года назад +1

    I have never thought of looking there for a gap and have been very frustrated in shooting my larger handgun. I had a gap with that Gun. When I fired my Ruger EC9s with the smaller hand grip I did not have a gap and I shot great. I did not no what was wrong and I kept going over all of the techniques. I kept trying to adjust my sites and that was not the problem I was shooting low and to the left just like he said and I could no figure out what was wrong. THANK YOU! I just realized I do have a gap there and that is why I felt like I did not have the control and I started to blame the pistol that has a great reputation for accuracy

  • @petedelaossa3796
    @petedelaossa3796 6 лет назад +2

    I am glad you are addressing this issue... In my experience of teaching LE for over 20 years, if I may add to your suggestions, the issue is more the cause of too much trigger finger. What I mean is shooters "overrun" the press to fire. The muzzle is influenced at the moment the shot breaks by too much pressure on the "Press" of the trigger. By slapping or pressing too hard will cause a dip at the muzzle. The result is low left for right-hand shooters and low right for lefties. The fix is unloading your pistol and make it safe. Double check to ensure it's empty/safe! Place an empty bullet casing or a dime ontop of the front sight post. Press the trigger to the rear until the hammer breaks a simulated round and then STOP any/all movement. Pay attention to how much pressure it took to "press to fire". You will notice it does not take much to make the gun go bang. Now, when you are at the range, repeat this process. But this time, have someone slip a finger ( I use my litte finger) in the trigger and feel the correct trigger press to fire with the empty pistol and object on the front post drill. Now, load your pistol and repeat the process. Have the person tell you how much trigger pressure you are exerting to actually make the pistol go off. You will find you don't need much to make it go bang and NOT influence the muzzle at the break. And part two to accuracy is watching your front sight before, during, and after the shot breaks. Do not "cheek a peak" when you are in a firing sequence. You will throw your rounds. In my humble experience, the 3 secrets to accuracy is 1. sight alignment 2. sight picture and 3. proper trigger manipulation. Grip is a product of managing recoil. In one of Jerry Miculek's videos he demonstrates how accuracy is achieved without proper grip. He turns a revolver upside down and fires off one round with accuracy. Give it try and see what you think. Thanks for reading.

    • @bokiNYC
      @bokiNYC 2 года назад +1

      Awesome advice, thank you Sir! 👍

  • @NHndrsn1234
    @NHndrsn1234 4 года назад +2

    OK...First....THANK YOU!!! Closing the gap on my support hand totally changed everything. I am now hitting my targets when I sight properly. I WAS hitting LOW LEFT, but not anymore. I thought it was my brand new Glock, but NO, it was my grip. It worked for me, try it, worth a shot (pun intended). Totally changed my shot group. WOW!! Happy now...thank you again!

  • @maroanglero8301
    @maroanglero8301 5 лет назад +2

    As a Firearms Instructor I teach full grip, you so right it’s 360 degrees of pressure on the grip. 35 years of competitive shooting that another issue is lots of shooters anticipate the recoil. My magic word is no movement on your grip.

  • @philfinkler
    @philfinkler 7 лет назад +2

    I just wanted to say I watched this video after identifying that I shoot low and to the left. A lot. So Iwent to the range yesterday and I really focused on my grip, how I was holding the gun, etc. I took my new CZ P-09 and also rented a Ruger lc9 and an M&P shield. After shooting all 3 pistols, I had consistent results. While I didn't have a fantastic grouping, they were all in the same general area around the bullseye. Thanks for this FABULOUS tip, as it will help me avoid holding the pistol improperly and developing "bad habits" since I'm new to shooting. I love your channel! Keep up the great work!

  • @willyshrader6139
    @willyshrader6139 2 года назад +1

    About four minutes into that video where you show the gap, I realized I also had that gap, and I fixed it & went to the range and no longer shoot low and left. I much appreciate your help.

  • @stevenowen82
    @stevenowen82 6 лет назад +5

    Great Video! I shoot low and left on occasion with my glocks as well as 1911 style pistols. This is literally the FIRST time I have seem the grip shown from the bottom. I feel sure that this is my problem as I am working on recoil control and shooting faster while remaining accurate. I appreciate you humble style and approach to teaching. You won a subscriber. Thank you.

  • @nomaddad5315
    @nomaddad5315 3 года назад +4

    I knew that is what I was doing. Your explanation makes perfect sense. I recently bought a P365XL, not a lot of real estate there. Can’t wait to get to the range. New sub. Thanks.

  • @JDST-7341q
    @JDST-7341q 4 года назад +2

    Thanks for sharing. I was in the military for 7 years and the only thing was covered is the sight part you explained. I've had this problem for years...it was just a gap in my grip.

  • @RavishingSailor
    @RavishingSailor 7 лет назад +3

    What a fantastic and very instructional video. I never realized that I had a gap in my grip until you actually made me aware by this video. What a difference it makes.
    Thanks

  • @bodyguard5879
    @bodyguard5879 7 лет назад +24

    I am a new subscriber and I really enjoy your videos. Very refreshing to see a non alpha personality firearms instructor. Keep up the good work. Be safe always.

  • @InSightFreedom
    @InSightFreedom 6 лет назад +2

    Excellent pointers. I catch myself frequently slipping back into this grip issue when shooting a 357 revolver. The target always tells.

  • @lonote1
    @lonote1 7 лет назад +5

    I can't thank you enough for this vid.For me it was all in my grip,the empty hole between the right and left hands.I tightened up my left hand and guess what! Thank you ,it now goes where I aim!

  • @Ba_A
    @Ba_A 6 лет назад +2

    I was a "flincher" with shots low left or mid left. It was easily diagnosed..... by not knowing if the there was a bullet in the chamber. The trainer would not let me know...just handed me the cocked gun without telling if it was hot to fire. When I "dry fired" I ananticipated the explosion and flinched by slightly pushing down the muzzle to counteract the the recoil/flip.

  • @teefrankenstein4340
    @teefrankenstein4340 7 лет назад +62

    Thanks for this video! I have been having this problem myself, low and left.

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад +3

      You're welcome, and thanks for watching.

    • @82lowe36id
      @82lowe36id 7 лет назад +4

      Same problem here. For many years I only used Glocks (22, 23, 17 & 27) and shot low left. With different handguns I have now it does not happen (PPQ, FNS40, FNS9c, Sig P229, M&P M2.0). Guessing the Glock does not fit me well. With a proper grip on a Gen 3 Glock I can only get the very tip of my finger on the trigger.

    • @ricklander5030
      @ricklander5030 7 лет назад +5

      Personal Defense and Firearm Education By following your example of "filling through gap" with your support hand my shots are now more consistent and accurate. I was always using the support hand fingers but never thought about using the palm of my support hand to "fill the gap". Thank you for this simple but most effective technique!

    • @82lowe36id
      @82lowe36id 7 лет назад +2

      Yeah, I have since replaced all my Glocks with handguns that fit my hand and accuracy has improved overall.

    • @warrenrudd4163
      @warrenrudd4163 7 лет назад

      Same here with my M&P Shield. All the other guns I shoot fine. Will have to go back to the range and see if I'm getting 100% grip on that one.

  • @marbledragon
    @marbledragon 7 лет назад +7

    Fantastic video! I was so mad today at the range because of my low and left shots. This was a big help. Thanks!

  • @billsmith981
    @billsmith981 4 года назад +3

    I've been having this problem intermittently...thanks for the advice. I practice a lot using varied stances and grips and this makes sense.

  • @dg1234ify
    @dg1234ify 4 года назад +2

    Amazing. Gap + 100% grip = 2 factors I never knew.

  • @DaveCraineAccidentalAquarist
    @DaveCraineAccidentalAquarist 6 лет назад +3

    Okay... gonna try that. I'm shooting lower and left no matter what. I hear this, and that I'm gripping too hard anticipating the shot.
    Great video. Thanks.

  • @MrContemplation
    @MrContemplation 2 года назад +1

    Now that i understand hard front sight focus. Im putting them in super tight groups. Been shooting for years and I thought i was doing it correctly. Even though they want of off RUclips. I'm really appreciative of the sharing of information of this type.

  • @GG-ms2rb
    @GG-ms2rb 7 лет назад +5

    Great video 😀!!! I was at the range yesterday and shooting low and left. You mentioning the gap in the hand is great tip. I noticed that I had that gap in my hold big time.

  • @competitionshootinggoodand1258
    @competitionshootinggoodand1258 6 лет назад +1

    I have seen this in new shooter repeatedly over the years. This is a great explanation of this issue and what contributes to it.

  • @skipmars7979
    @skipmars7979 3 года назад +1

    Thank you for this video. The "gap" on my left hand was the problem and "like a vice". Those two there fixed my problem.

  • @floridaman9026
    @floridaman9026 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you for this. I shot horrible at the range today. Everything was going low and left. Some of my rounds weren't even hitting paper at 10 yards. My grip definitely needs improvement. Can't wait to try out your tips. Thanks again.

  • @BubbaRountreeOutdoors
    @BubbaRountreeOutdoors 7 лет назад +9

    I checked my grip... and you were spot on my friend! Low & left... that was me a lot of the times! Thanks for the vid!! Wade

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад +2

      You're welcome, and thanks for watching!

    • @vigunfighter
      @vigunfighter 4 года назад +1

      The grip he shows is great and seems to work. Well.. it actually DOES work. But.... IT doesn't Solve the problem, it just masks it.
      It's great until you have to shoot one handed and all of a sudden the low and left is back....
      The 'problem' isn't the grip. The problem is that the pistol is too big for your hand, so you can't get your finger fully on the trigger so that you are only apply pressure to the front/center instead of the front right corner like you are doing.

    • @adrianlouviere7650
      @adrianlouviere7650 4 года назад

      @@vigunfighter Also a great tip for this hand gun nu-be. THANKS

  • @briangorman1079
    @briangorman1079 4 года назад +2

    this is exactly what was happening to me and i had no idea why. awesome video - thank you!

  • @bbhoustontx
    @bbhoustontx 4 года назад +1

    This man is very observant in his shooting and of course a ton of experience. I thank you sir for that advice it has made a world of difference. I am now subscribed to your channel!

  • @Ifly107
    @Ifly107 7 лет назад +1

    Wow...I am not too bad of a shot and have thought I've had a pretty decent grip. After watching your video, I realized I have a space on my weak hand. Ready to head back to the range to try out my new and improved grip! Thanks!!!

  • @kejenkins468
    @kejenkins468 6 лет назад

    I have an F&H FNP-9 That shot total left, but not down. I bought a laser round to sight it, because I installed my own tritium night sights. Discovered the sights were correct. Worked on my Grip. Some improvement. This video was what I needed to finalize good clusters. Well, done. I never blamed the pistol. I knew I was doing something wrong and this video proved that. THANKS!!!

  • @nickma71
    @nickma71 6 лет назад

    Most people, myself included, can't always describe what they are doing. The grip on the gun is not tight enough. Low and left is extremely common for right ganders, because that is the direction of the trigger pull. Rob Leathams video "aiming is useless" explains it very well. Kudos to you for saying grip first. Tight is the way.

  • @rickparrott5896
    @rickparrott5896 6 лет назад

    I had this problem. I bought the iTarget system and dry fire 100 rounds per night and amazingly, it has really helped my with my shooting. All of my fundamentals have improved. Grip, trigger pull and sight picture. Grip has been the my biggest problem...

  • @shinobi-media
    @shinobi-media 4 года назад +1

    I know I’m late to the party but man. It does make sense when the phrase. “The path of least resistance.” comes into play. It’s crazy too, I’m lefty and majority of my shots are grouped together low and to the right. People say it’s cause I’m jerking the trigger. Maybe. But I’ll give this a try and see if I get any good results.

  • @charlescarr3909
    @charlescarr3909 6 лет назад +1

    freaking genius. this helped me get back into feeling a lot more natural and no front sight movement dry at least.

  • @GoofysBandit
    @GoofysBandit 6 лет назад +1

    Thank so much for taking the time to make this. Very helpful and I'm taking this to the range tomorrow to try.

  • @derekjackson3990
    @derekjackson3990 2 года назад

    Oh my gosh man! I do exactly what you said. As far as my support hand not having good contact with the firearm. Can’t wait to go try this out. Thx for the tip!!!

  • @richardwiley5933
    @richardwiley5933 7 лет назад

    Good stuff! Most shooters do indeed have that problem at some point. Another part of this problem is the tendency of new shooters to anticipate and overcompensate for the recoil. That, too, will be temporary with proper trigger control training.

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад

      True. I've found that it takes a long time to erase the training scar of flinching for some folks. What's been your experience? And as always.. thanks for watching!

  • @johnnaylor8130
    @johnnaylor8130 4 года назад

    Great advice. The point about looking over the sights to look at the target was exactly what I was doing. Thanks for the help!

  • @ncbible1575
    @ncbible1575 7 лет назад

    I had one instance personally in the military where secondary gun was needed and never got to sights or support hand. I also have a LE friend that had the same experience on the first shot.
    You are right - it is very fluid and no scenario is the same. I have come to really appreciate the Jframe for personal carry taking into consideration all of it. I also have really enjoyed the Glock 42. Thanks again.

  • @TheWeatherbuff
    @TheWeatherbuff 7 лет назад +3

    I'm a right-handed shooter, so I'm quite familiar with the "low & left" issue because I do it a lot. I'll try your techniques for sure. Certainly I'm doing more than one thing wrong, based on my limited experience firing handguns (about 6 months), and not enough range time. There have been several times when I have shot consistently "left" but not "low". Maybe it's trigger finger placement. Anyway, thank you for the good info. New subscriber!

    • @bass779
      @bass779 7 лет назад +1

      "excellent!"

  • @montanaannie1253
    @montanaannie1253 7 лет назад +4

    Looking at the bottom of their grip is brilliant, thanks for the video!!

  • @motomatic4934
    @motomatic4934 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks for the advice and tips. Shooting low and left but going to implement your suggestions!

  • @Gattobuono
    @Gattobuono 4 года назад +2

    Great tutorial, I'll definitely apply these tips on my next visit to the range. I'm pretty sure that anticipation is my main problem when I go low left.
    I'm also going to put a lazer on my airsoft GBB G17 for some 'dry fire' practice.
    Thanks.

  • @vigidriver6281
    @vigidriver6281 7 лет назад +2

    As always, you have provided us with great information. All of us should Bless our Teachers, for it is they who provided us with the good stuff we have between our ears.

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад +3

      Thank you. I was blessed to have many good teachers and examples in my life, and am simply trying to pass along the information to help and inform others. Thanks for watching!

    • @tinafey4907
      @tinafey4907 7 лет назад

      Personal Defense and Firearm Education
      Very kind and thoughtful of you! I believe the same thing... paying it forward.

  • @GovG33k
    @GovG33k 7 лет назад +3

    Subscribed to your channel, I like your style! I'm always low and left, and I know it's me predicting the recoil then countering it prematurely. I'm quite mechanically inclined and was a machinist for many years. I think the habit of always finding middle-duration is so ingrained that my brain works similar a gyroscope, always trying to predict and deal with slack or a yaw and correct it before it happens. It's a mental thing and when I tell my hands to just let the trigger break "surprise" me things work much better.

    • @nickma71
      @nickma71 6 лет назад

      GovG33k It isn't "anticipating" it's grip.

    • @CramcrumBrewbringer
      @CramcrumBrewbringer 2 года назад

      @@nickma71 I bet it's both honestly.

    • @nickma71
      @nickma71 2 года назад

      @@CramcrumBrewbringer How so?
      Free yourself from the former Soviet Union's KGB trickery of just repeating it over and over. Others that can shoot say it, so it must be true. Other than get the correct information, some want to go with the expert (logical fallacy appeal to authority). Anticipating what? Break it down the mechanics of what is going on.

    • @CramcrumBrewbringer
      @CramcrumBrewbringer 2 года назад

      @@nickma71 Uh... I don't know about that tangent but it sounds like you've got some suppressed issues. As for the shooting low and left, if the issue isn't your grip, then it's flinching.

  • @duradim1
    @duradim1 7 лет назад

    This advice should help me a lot. I'm not a naturally good shot to begin with, in fact a terrible shot, but these pointers make sense. Thank you for the free advice.

  • @daniel1286
    @daniel1286 6 лет назад +1

    Thank you, busy working on this problem myself.

  • @regsparkes6507
    @regsparkes6507 7 лет назад

    I was browsing through RUclips videos , not looking for anything in particular, when this video came up, "whoa " I said to myself, " he's talking to ME !"
    So I watched to see if this was another 'quick fix' or something factual. I'm happy to say that in my case, it was the latter.
    Now I hope my memory of what you said will be here when I go to the range again in about 5 days time, ( I usually go once a week ) to try to overcome this nagging problem of shooting to the left and low.
    The other video you have up here is the one with white out on my front sight, so I do have a little bottle of that and a couple of tooth picks to apply it, all neatly placed in a 'zip lock' plastic bag in my range kit.
    I'm subscribing now, so I can see what else comes up.
    Thanks for this 'education' .

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад

      You're welcome. After your next trip to the range, let me know if it helped! Thanks for watching, and may your groups be tighter than before!

  • @bandofbrothers1964
    @bandofbrothers1964 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you for taking time and explain in detail of why shoot left and low! That gap you mentioned in the video is exactly what my problem is. I never have fully contact with my pistol grip on my weak hand.

  • @jamiesloan5902
    @jamiesloan5902 4 года назад

    I actually move my strong hand slightly around the grip. This not only puts my trigger finger in a better spot, but it also allows me to put more "skin" on the gun, with my support hand. It also lines up your isometric triangle much more naturally. I'm a "wrap my finger around the front of the trigger guard" type of shooter(with my support hand pointing finger). This works great for recoil management, as long as you don't apply lateral(side to side) pressure. I try to pull the trigger guard into my right shoulder, with my support hand. Works like a dream! Try it!!! Jerry Miculek endorses this grip, among other pros. It just isn't very common to see it taught...

  • @terrellbird4789
    @terrellbird4789 7 лет назад +1

    Thanks, I needed that! It is another good habit to develop to replace a bad one.

  • @johnstark5324
    @johnstark5324 5 лет назад

    I have just got back to pistol shooting after years away. Also as a side note I got for the first time a reproduction of a 1858 Remington cap and ball. Sure enough even with this grip, "old west style" I found my hand was not supporting the grip and yes this can be accomplished with this type of gun! Thank you for the tip!

  • @michaeltruhett4170
    @michaeltruhett4170 7 лет назад +1

    That told me my problem and now I know why I'm shooting low and left. Also my support hand sure enough had the gap you spoke of. My other issue is I wear glasses to see distance, so my sights are blurry no matter what. Because it's my concealed carry gun I've always shot with my glasses on because that's how it would be if God forbid I'm ever in a self defense situation and I have to use my gun. But, for self defense, glasses or not, the bad guy will be close enough that it won't matter. I do know that from now on if I'm just target shooting for accuracy, I'll just remove my glasses so my focus will be on the front sight. I think I'll add that tiny dot you spoke of on one of your other videos. Anyway, thank you kindly for the very informative video and stay safe yourself.

  • @taj1234100
    @taj1234100 6 лет назад +1

    Thanks I had this exact problem. Very well explained. I saw my problem on off with in 100rounds. So looks like I was getting lazy on paying attention to hand position

  • @azcinch
    @azcinch 7 лет назад +1

    This video helped my accuracy at the range. Grip is crucial. Thanks!!!

  • @tucobenedicto1780
    @tucobenedicto1780 3 года назад

    I've seen some shooting left & low videos, but this one is the best.

  • @richardortiz197
    @richardortiz197 7 лет назад

    Good instructions. You address my issue of firing down and to the left. I'm going to to apply what I've learn from your video. In the military I shot exclusively m-16 and I was always a shooter. I'm learning that firing a hand gun is much different.again thanks.

  • @Heart_filled_bot
    @Heart_filled_bot 7 лет назад +9

    great video. working on this myself. dry fire is key.

  • @grampawwillie1665
    @grampawwillie1665 5 лет назад

    Trigger control and sight picture are usually the first focus
    Presentation can be a big factor though: if you extend your shooting arm and try to lock your elbow you may be exerting a forward pressure on your presentation. when the trigger releases this can trow your shot. ease the tension: let your elbow bend a little. not too much - just enough to get the tension out of your presentation.

  • @kenmoto
    @kenmoto 7 лет назад +1

    very appreciative of the lessons you present. good tips which i'll have to try to be more aware of, particularly grip placement and trigger positioning.

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад +2

      I appreciate you watching. Keep practicing on a regular basis, and you will see improvement!

    • @fiesterblue
      @fiesterblue 7 лет назад +1

      Great video! This is exactly the problem I have. I will concentrate on the dry fire to correct this problem. I appreciate all your videos.

  • @csfcompetitiveshootingfitn6877
    @csfcompetitiveshootingfitn6877 7 лет назад

    At slow 5 secs splits any old grip will work as long as you do not disturb your front sight when the shot breaks. Grip is for recoil management for getting the gun back on target for the follow up shot

  • @philb9373
    @philb9373 3 года назад

    Excellent explanation of a common problem experienced by many shooters. Enjoyed watching it thanks for posting it!

  • @kcstever1
    @kcstever1 6 лет назад

    Filling in the gap with my support hand and dry firing really tightened up my groups the very next day! Been struggling with shooting low and inconsistently with my .40 M&P Shield so I'm looking forward to practicing this technique and actually improving now. Thanks!

  • @Matt_Strings_n_Things
    @Matt_Strings_n_Things 5 лет назад +1

    This is a great video. I think this is likely the cause of my low/left issues. I am excited to go to the range and see for myself.

  • @paullonglee
    @paullonglee 7 лет назад +1

    Wow, so informative! I think I have all those issues, can't wait to get a sirt and start practicing. Thanks for the educational video!

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад

      You're welcome. I need to send my SIRT back to the factory. Finally wore out the trigger on it!

    • @tinafey4907
      @tinafey4907 7 лет назад

      Personal Defense and Firearm Education
      I'm sorry to hear that. That really sucks that it broke. 😑 I wish you luck.

  • @steeler3258
    @steeler3258 7 лет назад +1

    awesome advice. It happens to me sometimes and now I know how to correct it. thanks!

  • @rsarge1353
    @rsarge1353 7 лет назад +4

    wow awesome for years I was hit or miss during qualifications and nobody could tell me why I was firing low to the right LOL now that I have retired and no longer need to qualify I find this out LOL thanks

  • @si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906
    @si_vis_pacempara_bellum4906 7 лет назад +1

    Thank you very much! Sir! Helpful as always! I constantly find myself shooting low and to the left. Usually first couple shots are okay, then everything goes down from there.. but when I shoot fast, every shot stays in the center... while I was watching your video, I immediately realized that my left hand grip is very tight but no contact with the grip itself...

  • @cortbailiff
    @cortbailiff 7 лет назад

    Thanks for the input. Can't wait to get out on the range. I used to not have this problem... it recently developed over the last year.

  • @SonyaWongJamisonKeener
    @SonyaWongJamisonKeener 7 лет назад

    Great advice! Especially the one about support hand closing the gap between the hand and the gun.

  • @CenturianCornelious
    @CenturianCornelious 7 лет назад

    THANK YOU. That left hand grip suggestion solved my down-left drift problem!

  • @mnrodriguez
    @mnrodriguez 4 года назад +1

    Thank you! Very informative and well presented!

  • @skywalker39100
    @skywalker39100 5 лет назад

    He is so on point! Dry Firing with a Laser helps a ton!

    • @damirjalali
      @damirjalali 5 лет назад

      Where do u buy that. And what's name for that

  • @BlackjackCZ
    @BlackjackCZ 5 лет назад +1

    Great video. I am lefty and my shots are drifting low and to the right..lol. I will try these tips at the range. Thank you!

  • @johnny6148
    @johnny6148 6 лет назад

    was shooting low left got some instructions now doing well. thanks for video

  • @peteswright
    @peteswright 6 лет назад

    Surly the answer is to isolate the trigger finger and not tighten the gripping fingers when firing plus front sight focus. The grip needn't be a firm one but enough to stop the gun moving during a string of shots. Train out the hand all closing at the same time.

  • @danoneill2846
    @danoneill2846 6 лет назад

    Thanks I shoot very well for years ( av when off is a vertical oval ). Just got a M19Glock , when I fast double tap perfect , when slow free hand all hits were high left ( R handed ) . From this vid I would guess I need to fill the gap , My grip is mostly not TOO tight & the grip is small for me . I shoot large frame glock perfect all the time . All have slip on Houg grips that I really like . I'm 60 yrs old & can't see the sights as well also . The gun is new & I thought the sights were off till I did the fast shooting .

  • @mikeisiniraq
    @mikeisiniraq 7 лет назад

    Great video. I have corrected shooters with that 7 o'clock push with too much trigger finger. the frame will be influenced by the MCP joint while pulling the trigger to the rear, pushing to the left and down. If the shots that are flying are towards the end of the string, think about fatigue in the hand, and the change in weight of the pistol, it is getting lighter and harder to control.

    • @82luft49
      @82luft49 6 лет назад

      Thanks Doc Swoop. Advice well taken.

  • @fattytfrompsd3901
    @fattytfrompsd3901 5 лет назад

    Very useful. I had the same line going on and next time at the range I was keeping silver dollars at 25’. All milking the grip with the pinky/ring when I moved from a .45 to 9mm.

  • @dlat69
    @dlat69 4 года назад

    Useful information. I will apply this and be more conscious before pulling the trigger.
    True, we think the more we fire down range the targeting will automatically get better, not true!
    Thanks!

  • @AshGreen359
    @AshGreen359 4 года назад +1

    I have this problem, thought maybe it was because of this issues shooting .40 but then I got a .380 and I'm doing the exact same thing.
    Definitely going to try this out

  • @marklamasky6304
    @marklamasky6304 6 лет назад

    I came across your video and wow did I learn your technique. Thanks for you input and help. I will try this the next time I go to the range.

  • @l.e.o.1127
    @l.e.o.1127 6 лет назад

    Low and left. That is me. Was taught the 70 30 thing in the academy. I checked for grip gap and there it was. I will say that it seems to be worse with glock for me. Thanks I subscribed

  • @teddyjakeddy975
    @teddyjakeddy975 6 лет назад

    I'm trying to follow your tips and I'm getting better.

  • @Zaku186
    @Zaku186 5 лет назад

    This helped a lot. i had a get between my support hand and the grip of the gun. thank you.

  • @patricklaurencelle5583
    @patricklaurencelle5583 Год назад

    Hello! From Canada..thank you for this explication..now i have less problem to shoot where i whant..the gap on the grip it's real..i fix my position and now i shoot better whit my M&p 9mm...thank you again for your video..

  • @vigunfighter
    @vigunfighter 4 года назад +1

    Low and left, for a right handed shooter? I'll bet they are shooting a Glock...
    Not enough finger on the trigger prevents the trigger from being pressed ONLY straight back. Instead there is a sideways vector applied in addition to the rearward pressure.
    A good grip from the support hand can compensate, but doesn't really Solve the problem, only masks it.
    The problem is that the pistol is TOO BIG for the shooter.
    When a student comes to me with the low/left problem I look at the gun first. Often it's a Glock (I LOVE Glocks, but the blocky grip results in a trigger reach that is just a bit too much for many of us.) Then Glock compounded the problem in Gen 4 and 5 with those horrendous grip additions that serve only to exasperate the problem, making the trigger reach (distance from the middle of the backstrap to the center front of the trigger) even worse.
    "But I like the way it feels!"
    "That's more important to you than being able to hit?..."
    The Hogue rubber over grip is also bad.
    Buy a gun that fits you. S&W spent $3,000,000.00 researching and developing the grip for the M&P series and it shows. There are other guns that also have a good trigger reach. Try them out until you find one that works WITH you.
    Can you shoot a gun that is too big for you? Afsolutely! You are just going to have to work much harder than necessary to be consistently accurate.

  • @bruce5168
    @bruce5168 6 лет назад +1

    Low and left, same problem.
    I can't wait to try your suggestions. Great video

  • @uncleben8895
    @uncleben8895 7 лет назад

    Wow, didn't even realize with my large hands that my left hand literally didn't touch anything other than my left hand. Can get the heel to make contact and it is making my dry fire aim less shaky already. Can't wait to try this out. Love the tip.

    • @personaldefenseandfirearme1046
      @personaldefenseandfirearme1046  7 лет назад

      I appreciate you watching. Thanks, and I hope you notice a positive difference!

    • @uncleben8895
      @uncleben8895 7 лет назад

      Absolutely! I appreciate your guidance. If I could subscribe again I would. Thanks Again!

  • @markdalbow5898
    @markdalbow5898 7 лет назад

    This is so me. I'm in the target 95% of the time, but not the center target, lol. I'll start with the first 5-10 rounds in a nice group, in and around the "X" then I drift low and to the left. ( right handed shot ). I just changed from the off center firing position to the, what you call "the punch" position. I know there are actual names for them, but I'm not googling them right now and I think you know what I mean. Anyway, that also has seemed to helped. But thanks for the video. I know I don't use my support hand properly, so I'm pretty sure that's part of my issue also.

  • @williamgeller2385
    @williamgeller2385 7 лет назад

    Good stuff...You're a great resource. Your explanations are right up there with Chief Sajnog's

  • @94slingshot
    @94slingshot 7 лет назад +1

    We called it "regripping" in golf, had the same affect.

  • @georgece3062
    @georgece3062 3 года назад

    I had exact same issue yesterday and my assumption was that the rear sight is no good and need to purchase new one- adjustable.But what you say makes sense. I am not a small arms guy , I am a rifle guy , and dont a much with handguns and my grip was horrible. As matter of fact i positioned my supporting hand with thumb right behind slider and cut my skin the first time.I gotta be ashamed of myself. All my rifles are supped up to the max, I am a good shooter with small and large rifles, but when it comes to handguns -no good.I ll go tomorrow and try your advice.See if it helps .And maybe I will replace the rear sight with adjustable one. Front one was actually 0.5mm -0.25mm to the right, when I inspected it today. I wouldn't have assumed that S&W will sell a brand new handgun, not perfectly aligned.

  • @foxhound6364
    @foxhound6364 6 лет назад

    Thanks for this. I just bought a Glock 19, and was shocked with how bad I was with it. I've always been really good with rifles, and I had never owned a handgun before. I thought the skill would transfer over, but I can see I've been making a lot of mistakes with my grip. Also, I never flinch with rifles, but I do for some reason with my handgun. I guess it'll just take more practice.

    • @beargillium2369
      @beargillium2369 2 года назад

      Bet you don't have any striker fired rifles, or at least ones that pull the striker with the trigger like a Glock does. Get a nice single action and your skills will shine through better!

  • @johnhalpin1847
    @johnhalpin1847 2 года назад

    Milking grip would result in high shots however you are correct tightening of strong hand grip fingers as you squeeze the trigger called sympathetic response you need to isolate the trigger finger. 2nd is support hand should be squeezing like a tennis ball squeeze. The strong hand needs to pull straight back into the palm and not squeezing the strong hand finger tips which causes the firearm to pull left and low.

  • @robertduncan2742
    @robertduncan2742 4 года назад

    Thank you, be safe also

  • @leeellis1164
    @leeellis1164 3 года назад

    Great teaching, but somehow i can could not discern what was the gap. It was never clear to me because the space is black like the pistol handle and i had to study it to realize it was not part of the handle. So, I was not sure if you were talking about some other gap location. i had to go back and watch it three times and then made the assumption that there was a gap -in that black space. It would have been better for slow learners like me who have difficulty following directions and descriptions given by others if you had said specifically "the gap I'm talking about is the dark space you see between my hand and the pistol grip." I have this 7 o'clock issue with my 9mm pistols, but not my Ruger 22, so it almost has to be my grip. Now i know what to look for I'll work on it. Thanks

  • @chuckhoward3626
    @chuckhoward3626 6 лет назад

    In the Corps I found shooting the 1911 difficult - low left stringing. What I found was my hand did not fit the grip. It was to small for my hand and my finger would contact the trigger down on the second knuckle joint. That causes you to fire the weapon not by squeezing the trigger with your finger, but with the muscles in the upper part of your hand.

  • @rhinegun3482
    @rhinegun3482 7 лет назад

    Best gun channel I have found to date. Keep it up and thanks