Outstanding video. Really informative. Great work, keep it up. Love that snare and I'm definitely sold on that kit - piano black doesn't get enough love.
Thank you so much! That really means a lot to me 🙏🏽 Totally agree - make black elegant drumsets great again 🖤🖤🖤 I'm curious, what kit are you currently playing man?
@@creative-dotcom Sure! It‘s a Meinl Percussion Ching Ring. I’m using the steel variation in this video but usually I prefer the soft version of this Ching Ring. Hope this helps :)
Came across this vid because I’m considering this kit... I couldn’t decide between a Starclassic or a Renown, so I’m getting both. I have the Renown and now I’m here.
Both amazing kits for sure! Let me know which one you prefer in the end 🥁😊 I believe both have something unique and it really depends on what kind of sound you want to achieve. Lucky you for having both kits!
@@PatrickPutzker Seems like the Renown is more wide open whereas the Starclassic has a more focused attack. They’re both brilliant. You could probably haul in more of the ladies with a Tama because they’re just beautiful. Haha.
@@rkaylor5769 yeah that's what I was thinking as well , so you definitely have a great range of sounds available now! If you ever get the chance I would love to see a comparison video between both sets 😬
@@PatrickPutzker I’m woefully camera shy even though some want me to put demos on YT. Tama was aiming straight at the Renown it seems. Sound: Open v focused. Hardware: Tama. Finish: Tama. Cool factor: Tama. BD: Gretsch. Hoops: Gretsch. And why I give the nod to Gretsch: versatility. You can play anything on it BECAUSE it’s not as focused. My humble opinion, gents (and ladies)...
@@rkaylor5769 thanks for sharing! I'm sure this will help others out for making decissions in case they're also between this kits (or similar ones). Really means a lot, thanks for taking the time :)
@@PatrickPutzker You too! Best kit I've owned. I'm hoping to get a matching snare at some point, but I love everything about them, the hardware, the look of the shell, the finish, and the sound it so amazing.
my new dream kit right here!!! happy for you my friend. i am torn on getting this one ( WBS32RZS ) 3 piece with the 22x14 kick in either the molten brown burst (looks better in photos, and I wish it was satin, I am a sucker for satin and burst combos) or go more "classic" and grab maybe the ocean blue laquer, or screw both of those and go for the satin sapphire fade to be unique - ahhh I need to practice and save up my funds. I have a PDP Concept Maple in Oxblood right now (13/16/26x14) and it is super super nice as my daily driver, but I am drawn more and more towards these Tama kits. Would you recommend this kit if you still use and play it? :) thank you Patrick
Hi man, totally understand that struggle haha! I'm still playing this kit and would always prefer it over anything else tbh! Constantly getting lots of compliments from audio engineers both in the studio and on stage for this kit. You're not going to regret it if you personally enjoy the sound :)
@@PatrickPutzker I do not but you should check out the band Tallah cause the drums are so sick. Their song We The Sad had a cool lil drum solo and their drummer is Max Portnoy the son of Mike Portnoy
It's a custom snare I build together with a company called GreinerKilmer. Unfortunately, they don't produce drums anymore. But in case you want to look for a similar snare, it's a 13x6.5 segmented snare made out of blocks of walnut, zebrawood and blood wood. Hope this helps. :)
Thanks! Although it hard to hear the real sound on youtube, i thought it sounded very good, and looked good to. Interesting choice of material! Thanks again@@PatrickPutzker
Such an amazing kit for the price. I have the Starclassic bb hyperdrives which are the best drums for me. Tama nailed it with the wb. Didn’t think they could replace the bbs with anything nearly as good. I still prefer the bbs and the low end they give but the wb’s are amazing and sound better in all tuning ranges imo. The bbs sound like heaven around medium- low tuning. Sounds good high too but not as good as the wb’s but the low end of bbs are unmatched. Want to save up for a wb kit too though. Also own the Tama superstar classics and Tama silverstar. Use those two kits as a gigging/touring kits to beat up on and keep the starclassics fresh and only bust those out for big shows or the studio. Tama all day!!
Dude that's quite some sets you got yourself there! I basically love all of them too. Tama just really got me with the sound, style and looks of their kits. By the way I totally agree with you regarding the bbs. I never owned one but played a bb for three tours and a studio session and I also considered this kit but since there's a lot going on with Bubinga wood currently and I travel a lot I went with this kit and was actually blown away. I'm sure you'll also enjoy your wb those kits are definitely more than worth regarding price/quality! Stay healthy man and have a nice day! ☀
I have BB and you're right about tuning. Between medium and low are amazing for that kit (toms). Bass drum with PS3 works well in medium tuning, but in low sounds like sh..
Hi Patrick. Great job and well done.👍 Nice low tuning and drumming absolutely. I’m looking forward to see the new video about medium tuning, high tuning and Remo head sound. (We’d be happy to see those soon🥰🥰) BTW, I just ordered the W/B 5 pieces shell pack like you but in LPO color. Can’t wait to rock on them. 🙂
Hi man, thanks for your Feedback! Really means a lot to me 😊 I'm going to start working on those asap! Oh you're going to love it! Please let me know as soon as it arrives. Can't wait to hear your thoughts. 🙏🏼
Now that you have had the drums for a while, are you still just as jazzed about them as you were when you made this video? One thing I noticed when I demo'd the BB's at the store was that the bass drum had stock heads and no muffling, yet the sound of that bass drum was as punchy and round-sounding as the best kits I've ever played, and it just didn't NEED any muffling! What is your experience with the BW's in this regard? Thanks!
Oh absolutely man! Really love its versatile sound, the crafting quality and definitely the look of the kit. Regarding the muffling I have to say that I was actually amazed about how little muffling you really need. It's almost how you describe it, especially if you throw an Evans Emad 2 head on it, you basically don't need any muffling while not loosing any punch. I ended up muffling about 1/3 of the whole drum because I like my bass to sound pretty dead and punchy. Hope that helps! Let me know in case you have any further questions 🙂🙏
Thank you so much! That really means a lot to me 🙏🙂 Haha that was also for me the longest process in all of this 😀 There're just such insane finishes for this kit but since I like to keep it simple and black being my favorite color of all time I decided to go with their beautiful piano black. But for the first time ever I was really tempted to go with a very bright and colourful finish 😬
I too am stuck on deciding on which finish. Torn between the shamrock oyster, raspberry fade and transparent mocha fade. So hard to decide! Starclassic has been my dream kit since I was 11 in 1996. Got my first Tama kit in 1999, deep forest green rockstars, they were stolen and I got Tama Silverstars, green with a blue chameleon in the light- so having all green kits makes me want to go with the shamrock but damn they all look so good!
Damn that’s ALOT of bass drum muffling going on. I’m guessing you prefer that quick dead bass drum sound. Lol. Awesome detailed high quality review though ! Those drums sound and look amazing
Haha yeah that's exactly right! But it actually doesn't need that much muffling, I mentioned this already in another comment, if you throw an Evans Emad 2 on there you really don't need any muffling for a controlled yet still punshy open sound. Love this kick drum so much man! Thanks for your feedback by the way! Really means a lot to me 🙏🙂
Thank you so much man! Really means a lot to me 🙏🙂 I acutally get a lot of requests like this so I guess it's time to film that video finally 😬 I'll let you know when it is up! Have a great day ☀
@@dalebruce8362 Hi man, sorry I can't currently produce any videos because we're building a new studio but I'll get to it asap! Thanks for your interest :)
Checkst du nicht die einzelnen Trommeln vorher nochmal durch? Bei mir ist vorgestern das Mapex Saturn angekommen und ich habe bei 2 Toms festgestellt, dass sie nicht plan sind. Schwere Enttäuschung, ich werd's wieder zurück senden und suche einen Hersteller, dem man hier besser vertrauen kann.
Doch natürlich, das ist alles Off-Camera passiert. 😬 Tut mir leid das es bei dir so lief... hatte ich so wirklich auch noch nie. Ich hoffe du bekommst dein Kit schnell und dann auch so wie es sein sollte! Viele Grüße
@@PatrickPutzker Verrätst du mir wo du dein Set erworben hast? Ich habe mittlerweile mein Saturn zurückgegeben und es zu Weihnachten mit genau deinem Modell erneut bei Thomann versucht. Nach den 16er und 14er Toms habe ich mit meinen Messungen aufgegeben. Die 14er ist nicht rund und die 16er ist so unplan, dass man sie hin und her kippen und an einer Seite 4 Blätter Papier darunter schieben kann.
@@4ff3 ohje das tut mir leid da hast du anscheinend richtig Pech im Bezug darauf... Kann natürlich ach an der Lagerung bzw. dem Transport liegen. Thomann sollte dir das ja aber locker dann ersetzen oder? Ich habe mein Set direkt über einen Kontakt bei Tama Germany erworben.
Thank you so much! Really glad that you like it 🙏🙂 I'm currently using Meinl's 14" Byzance Dark Hats. They're just so damn crispy - love it! In case you have more questions about my gear you can find a full gear list on my website: patrickputzker.com/gear
Ugh. All young drummers lack any class, touch or humility. A drummer HAS NEVER been hired because they can flip drumsticks or smash the drums and cymbals. It's ok though, please keep it up because it just means more gigs for me! Thank you!!
Well if you're in heavy rock or metal bands, you do need to smash the drums and cymbals (especially live), and don't need to display as much dynamic subtlety in your playing than if you were playing jazz etc. It's clear that you don't follow many young drummers as well, as I've seen many many drummers under the age of 25 who have excellent sense of dynamic range and feel when playing. And finally, as you're the type of person who complains about "young people" I'm assuming you're also of the generation that brought us 80s hair metal bands, who's drummers were all about flipping drumsticks and playing simple heavy beats, and all the power to them for it, but just don't be a hypocrite when complaining about younger generations.
BASS drum sounds like CRAP. Sorry but why put blankets, pillows, padding in a drum, ESP the largest and most important drum for any pop music. Your BASS drum has NO bottom, NO resonance, NO sound....But, if you like the sound of a box, then you have succeeded.
0:16 Intro
2:01 Unboxing
5:11 New Features
6:47 Setup
7:45 Demos Intro
10:01 Full Kit Demos
11:42 Solo Mic & Single Shell Demos
Outstanding video. Really informative. Great work, keep it up. Love that snare and I'm definitely sold on that kit - piano black doesn't get enough love.
Thank you so much! That really means a lot to me 🙏🏽
Totally agree - make black elegant drumsets great again 🖤🖤🖤
I'm curious, what kit are you currently playing man?
I prefer the raw unmixed sound also. All the tone seems to be processed away...
This kit sounds so insane raw! Really happy with it, the mix is my main social media mix approach so its a bit hot tbh 😬
Hi Patrick! can you tell me what is the name of the jingle that you put on the hi hat?
@@creative-dotcom Sure! It‘s a Meinl Percussion Ching Ring. I’m using the steel variation in this video but usually I prefer the soft version of this Ching Ring. Hope this helps :)
Came across this vid because I’m considering this kit... I couldn’t decide between a Starclassic or a Renown, so I’m getting both. I have the Renown and now I’m here.
Both amazing kits for sure! Let me know which one you prefer in the end 🥁😊 I believe both have something unique and it really depends on what kind of sound you want to achieve. Lucky you for having both kits!
@@PatrickPutzker Seems like the Renown is more wide open whereas the Starclassic has a more focused attack. They’re both brilliant. You could probably haul in more of the ladies with a Tama because they’re just beautiful. Haha.
@@rkaylor5769 yeah that's what I was thinking as well , so you definitely have a great range of sounds available now! If you ever get the chance I would love to see a comparison video between both sets 😬
@@PatrickPutzker I’m woefully camera shy even though some want me to put demos on YT. Tama was aiming straight at the Renown it seems. Sound: Open v focused. Hardware: Tama. Finish: Tama. Cool factor: Tama. BD: Gretsch. Hoops: Gretsch. And why I give the nod to Gretsch: versatility. You can play anything on it BECAUSE it’s not as focused. My humble opinion, gents (and ladies)...
@@rkaylor5769 thanks for sharing! I'm sure this will help others out for making decissions in case they're also between this kits (or similar ones). Really means a lot, thanks for taking the time :)
Dude, even though you had 420 subscribers, I had to subscribe. Awesome job!!
haha damn 😅 Appreciate that my man!! 🖤 Stay safe out there!
I just got the Phantasm Oyster finish a few weeks ago and it's so awesome.
Indeed dude! I basically love all the new finishes but I always end up getting their piano black anyway... 🤷🏽♂️ Enjoy your new kit man!
@@PatrickPutzker You too! Best kit I've owned. I'm hoping to get a matching snare at some point, but I love everything about them, the hardware, the look of the shell, the finish, and the sound it so amazing.
@@theHumanBryno couldn't agree more man! Have a great day 🌞
Same! Enjoy it
I more like no mixing sound this sic kit,
The raw sound of this kit is really insane!
my new dream kit right here!!! happy for you my friend. i am torn on getting this one ( WBS32RZS ) 3 piece with the 22x14 kick in either the molten brown burst (looks better in photos, and I wish it was satin, I am a sucker for satin and burst combos) or go more "classic" and grab maybe the ocean blue laquer, or screw both of those and go for the satin sapphire fade to be unique - ahhh I need to practice and save up my funds. I have a PDP Concept Maple in Oxblood right now (13/16/26x14) and it is super super nice as my daily driver, but I am drawn more and more towards these Tama kits. Would you recommend this kit if you still use and play it? :) thank you Patrick
Hi man, totally understand that struggle haha!
I'm still playing this kit and would always prefer it over anything else tbh! Constantly getting lots of compliments from audio engineers both in the studio and on stage for this kit. You're not going to regret it if you personally enjoy the sound :)
Is the mount of the Tom screwed into the wood? Or can you spin the Tom and put the logo facing the other way?
This kit would sound awesome with like a high tuned piccolo snare
Ouh yes mate! Love that kind of stuff 🖤 do you have a favorite piccolo snare at the moment?
@@PatrickPutzker I do not but you should check out the band Tallah cause the drums are so sick. Their song We The Sad had a cool lil drum solo and their drummer is Max Portnoy the son of Mike Portnoy
@@Mighty_Mandibles oh hell yeah, love them! Max is so talented 🔥
So amazing. I NEED this kit. (Only a 3 piece though)
I prefer no Mixed sound. Nice kit
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What depth of bassdrum has this configuration? 14" or 16"?
It's 22x16". Hope this helps! :)
What kind of snare did u use?
It's a custom snare I build together with a company called GreinerKilmer. Unfortunately, they don't produce drums anymore. But in case you want to look for a similar snare, it's a 13x6.5 segmented snare made out of blocks of walnut, zebrawood and blood wood. Hope this helps. :)
Thanks! Although it hard to hear the real sound on youtube, i thought it sounded very good, and looked good to. Interesting choice of material! Thanks again@@PatrickPutzker
You're welcome! 🙏🏽@@joakimvarvin8282
Such an amazing kit for the price. I have the Starclassic bb hyperdrives which are the best drums for me. Tama nailed it with the wb. Didn’t think they could replace the bbs with anything nearly as good. I still prefer the bbs and the low end they give but the wb’s are amazing and sound better in all tuning ranges imo. The bbs sound like heaven around medium- low tuning. Sounds good high too but not as good as the wb’s but the low end of bbs are unmatched. Want to save up for a wb kit too though. Also own the Tama superstar classics and Tama silverstar. Use those two kits as a gigging/touring kits to beat up on and keep the starclassics fresh and only bust those out for big shows or the studio. Tama all day!!
Dude that's quite some sets you got yourself there! I basically love all of them too. Tama just really got me with the sound, style and looks of their kits. By the way I totally agree with you regarding the bbs. I never owned one but played a bb for three tours and a studio session and I also considered this kit but since there's a lot going on with Bubinga wood currently and I travel a lot I went with this kit and was actually blown away. I'm sure you'll also enjoy your wb those kits are definitely more than worth regarding price/quality!
Stay healthy man and have a nice day! ☀
I have BB and you're right about tuning. Between medium and low are amazing for that kit (toms). Bass drum with PS3 works well in medium tuning, but in low sounds like sh..
Very nice full rock
Hi Patrick.
Great job and well done.👍
Nice low tuning and drumming absolutely.
I’m looking forward to see the new video about medium tuning, high tuning and Remo head sound. (We’d be happy to see those soon🥰🥰)
BTW, I just ordered the W/B 5 pieces shell pack like you but in LPO color. Can’t wait to rock on them. 🙂
Hi man, thanks for your Feedback! Really means a lot to me 😊 I'm going to start working on those asap!
Oh you're going to love it! Please let me know as soon as it arrives. Can't wait to hear your thoughts. 🙏🏼
Of course, I will stay tune with you and also let you know about my impression with my new drums when their arrive.
TC 🙂🙂
@@joeakaradej8666 Looking forward to that! Hope you're safe man 🙂🙏
Would you like a pretty pink ribbon for your hair?
yes please! 😍
Full Mix sounds worse than no mix 😬 lovely sounding kit though.
It is! Sounds so good completely raw :)
Matas el sonido con la postproducción uwu
I don't quite understand what you're saying. Could you try to rephrase your comment or write it in English please? 🙂
Now that you have had the drums for a while, are you still just as jazzed about them as you were when you made this video?
One thing I noticed when I demo'd the BB's at the store was that the bass drum had stock heads and no muffling, yet the sound of that bass drum was as punchy and round-sounding as the best kits I've ever played, and it just didn't NEED any muffling!
What is your experience with the BW's in this regard? Thanks!
Oh absolutely man! Really love its versatile sound, the crafting quality and definitely the look of the kit.
Regarding the muffling I have to say that I was actually amazed about how little muffling you really need. It's almost how you describe it, especially if you throw an Evans Emad 2 head on it, you basically don't need any muffling while not loosing any punch. I ended up muffling about 1/3 of the whole drum because I like my bass to sound pretty dead and punchy.
Hope that helps! Let me know in case you have any further questions 🙂🙏
@@PatrickPutzker Sounds great! Thanks!
Thanks for posting. This is great. The only thing holding me back now is choosing a color. :P
Thank you so much! That really means a lot to me 🙏🙂
Haha that was also for me the longest process in all of this 😀 There're just such insane finishes for this kit but since I like to keep it simple and black being my favorite color of all time I decided to go with their beautiful piano black. But for the first time ever I was really tempted to go with a very bright and colourful finish 😬
I too am stuck on deciding on which finish. Torn between the shamrock oyster, raspberry fade and transparent mocha fade. So hard to decide! Starclassic has been my dream kit since I was 11 in 1996. Got my first Tama kit in 1999, deep forest green rockstars, they were stolen and I got Tama Silverstars, green with a blue chameleon in the light- so having all green kits makes me want to go with the shamrock but damn they all look so good!
Damn that’s ALOT of bass drum muffling going on. I’m guessing you prefer that quick dead bass drum sound. Lol. Awesome detailed high quality review though ! Those drums sound and look amazing
Haha yeah that's exactly right! But it actually doesn't need that much muffling, I mentioned this already in another comment, if you throw an Evans Emad 2 on there you really don't need any muffling for a controlled yet still punshy open sound. Love this kick drum so much man!
Thanks for your feedback by the way! Really means a lot to me 🙏🙂
That 12x8 (I assume) rack tom sounds amazing! My 3-piece Starclassic set just arrived! \m/
I really love this Tom man, absolutely fantastic in the studio! Hope you enjoy your new Set man 🥁🔥 I'm curious: what finish did you get?
@@PatrickPutzker Turquoise Pearl. It looks amazing in person!
@@GearBoxTy beautiful finish!! So happy for you :)
Welp. I’ve found my kit.
Great video! Is lacker black o platic? Thanks!
Thank you, really appreciate that :) The finish is called "Piano Black". Hope this helps!
make a video on how you tune man cause these sound awesome !!!!!!
Thank you so much man! Really means a lot to me 🙏🙂 I acutally get a lot of requests like this so I guess it's time to film that video finally 😬 I'll let you know when it is up!
Have a great day ☀
@@PatrickPutzker wheres that video bro
@@dalebruce8362 Hi man, sorry I can't currently produce any videos because we're building a new studio but I'll get to it asap! Thanks for your interest :)
@@PatrickPutzker awesome man
@@dalebruce8362 I'll let you know when it's out! :)
Checkst du nicht die einzelnen Trommeln vorher nochmal durch? Bei mir ist vorgestern das Mapex Saturn angekommen und ich habe bei 2 Toms festgestellt, dass sie nicht plan sind. Schwere Enttäuschung, ich werd's wieder zurück senden und suche einen Hersteller, dem man hier besser vertrauen kann.
Doch natürlich, das ist alles Off-Camera passiert. 😬 Tut mir leid das es bei dir so lief... hatte ich so wirklich auch noch nie. Ich hoffe du bekommst dein Kit schnell und dann auch so wie es sein sollte!
Viele Grüße
@@PatrickPutzker Verrätst du mir wo du dein Set erworben hast? Ich habe mittlerweile mein Saturn zurückgegeben und es zu Weihnachten mit genau deinem Modell erneut bei Thomann versucht. Nach den 16er und 14er Toms habe ich mit meinen Messungen aufgegeben. Die 14er ist nicht rund und die 16er ist so unplan, dass man sie hin und her kippen und an einer Seite 4 Blätter Papier darunter schieben kann.
@@4ff3 ohje das tut mir leid da hast du anscheinend richtig Pech im Bezug darauf... Kann natürlich ach an der Lagerung bzw. dem Transport liegen. Thomann sollte dir das ja aber locker dann ersetzen oder? Ich habe mein Set direkt über einen Kontakt bei Tama Germany erworben.
everything sounds amazing! what hi hats are you using?
Thank you so much! Really glad that you like it 🙏🙂 I'm currently using Meinl's 14" Byzance Dark Hats. They're just so damn crispy - love it!
In case you have more questions about my gear you can find a full gear list on my website: patrickputzker.com/gear
Are the heads usa or china ones
Nice drum kit
dariojr14 thank you! I’m very happy with it so far 🙏🏼😊
What were the sizes?
My set is 10x7" (not on the kit), 12x8", 14x12", 16x14" and a 22x16" Bass Drum. Hope that helps!
Your English is excellent!
Thank you so much man! Really means a lot :)
Unprocessed sound is way better.
glad you like it :)
These drums sound like cardboard boxes. Need to change the heads?
Ugh. All young drummers lack any class, touch or humility. A drummer HAS NEVER been hired because they can flip drumsticks or smash the drums and cymbals. It's ok though, please keep it up because it just means more gigs for me! Thank you!!
You're welcome ❤
Well if you're in heavy rock or metal bands, you do need to smash the drums and cymbals (especially live), and don't need to display as much dynamic subtlety in your playing than if you were playing jazz etc. It's clear that you don't follow many young drummers as well, as I've seen many many drummers under the age of 25 who have excellent sense of dynamic range and feel when playing. And finally, as you're the type of person who complains about "young people" I'm assuming you're also of the generation that brought us 80s hair metal bands, who's drummers were all about flipping drumsticks and playing simple heavy beats, and all the power to them for it, but just don't be a hypocrite when complaining about younger generations.
Sucked the life out of the kit in the mix!
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The moment I see the dude throwing his stick in the air I switch off the video😮
BASS drum sounds like CRAP. Sorry but why put blankets, pillows, padding in a drum, ESP the largest and most important drum for any pop music. Your BASS drum has NO bottom, NO resonance, NO sound....But, if you like the sound of a box, then you have succeeded.