Why is Real Range not even close to Advertised? InMotion L9 test
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- Опубликовано: 4 сен 2024
- It is important to understand how companies get their advertised range. In this video I discuss why advertised and real world range results often do not match up. The InMotion L9 electric scooter is a commuter e-scooter with big aspirations. The size, the weight, and the advertised range are all big. I do my version of a real world range test on the Inmotion L9 and I discuss why advertised range and real world range can be so different.
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This guy just seems like a good dude. Your subscribers will definitely grow. It comes through in your videos.
“Aren’t we in a coin shortage” yeah blame mister beast for that one...
Inmotion has high IP rating on it s products . That is why I got this and also cause of advertized range. I was in heavy rain, mud , hills, demanding ride in second mode(max24km/h)goes 41 km range. The company range test is apparently done in eco mode on flat terrain...
I am very happy with the range I get in very demanding conditions, and I believe the company range test is somewhat accurate
Thanks for sharing!
I have been around that resovoir on my scooter while I was on vacation in denver. That is one of the best scooting paths I've been on.
Great area to ride!
Great stuff Jimmy. Love your content as always.
It's amazing how much a few more mph will affect the range on my XR. All else being equal, cruising around 15-16mph gets me 17.4 miles, versus 19-20mph gets around 14 miles.
Thanks for sharing
The amazing numbers for the L9 are for the Eco mode only...not the faster modes. You won't get a 59 mile range doing 17 or 18 mph. Eco mode only goes up to 11 mph. On my L9 I get around a 35 mile range in Drive mode...which is between Eco and Sport...which is perfectly fine.
Correct. But who rides in Eco mode?
@@freshlycharged The guy, or girl, who wants to get 59 miles out of one charge? The idea of Eco is that mode you choose when you have two bars left, and miles to go before a re-charge...and you don't want range anxiety. Walking is much slower than Eco mode!
@@freshlycharged - I do :)))
On top of the range, it would be really nice if the manufacturers could also publish a torque curve in relation to the available battery voltage. All Class 6 truck catalogues have something similar (torque x hp).
Very valid point. Advertised range is very different from real world range!
I get 21mls from new lemotion S1
Great vid as always Jimmy. The one upside with "range exageration" is that people in the know, know they need to check range test videos to get a better idea of the true range of PEVs.
That's right. Makes a market for videos like this!
I’ve been waiting for this range test video. 30 miles still isn’t bad at all.
Hope you enjoyed it!
Jimmy, one day try a range test in more moderate temperatures...like over 60 degrees. I think you would get a lot more than 30.3 miles. Batteries don't like the cold.
Jimmy Chang: the mr beast of the onewheel community
Nice range test, thank you so much for doing this. I think I will be adding a second battery to my scooter, just in case.
That's so cool you're able to hang out with your teenage son and his friends. A lot of kids don't want parents around at the age and also a lot of parents don't want to hang with teens. Nice to see 👍
good review 😎
I get 21mls at 15mph no hills
lemotion S1 I'm 95kg
Ive run out of places to go - that struck deep. i live in a 10k town. I feel i've seen it all after a year of onewheeling in my muncipality.
im considdering buying a new but used van and convert it into a mobile camper/charging station for longer trips. my gf and i. pplan on seeing france that way.
PEV and Van life go together like peanut butter and jelly.
Very interesting video. Range is always a question when I'm riding distance. Twelve miles seems to be enough range for me, but its hard to predict if I have that reserve if I'm at 75% charge. I'm hoping range prediction / real time expected range is a future feature.
Great point!
30 Miles is definitely not bad. It's not 59 but not bad. I'm sure with a heavier guy like me it would be more like 20 miles though.
They don't claim you'll get at least 59 miles on it or that you will get the same distance every time. They say up to 59 miles, if you ride lightweight and in ideal conditions. I consider 50-75 % of advertised distance in real world conditions.
Looking at the battery capacity and ah is definitely much better than looking at the advertised range. i.e. 36v 10ah = 360wh. You can then compare that to other scooters to get an idea how far it could go.
I have done range test on my L9 and I;ve been able to achive 46km of advertised 95km. Most of e-scooters have close to 50% real range compare to what producer say. Same thing I have with my Xiaomi M365 which suppose to last 30km, in my case it's 17-18km.
Glad I found this channel I just got a drone and now looking into electric boards interested in the onewheel pint lol but this Scooter looks cool! December will be the month I save to get one can’t wait keep up the good vids! your like the cool dad kids wish for! 😂
I decided to buy one also because of your test. I hope that with my 50 kilograms of weight and driving eco mode will get me far. I don't care about the speed so much, range is the most important factor. Thank you for this review, I hope I'll enjoy my InMotion L9.
Hey, did you get it? How much range did you get out of it?
@@TheRopoz - Honestly, I've never managed to go all the way in one go because I get too tired. I guess it's about 60 km on one charge, it takes me a couple of days to empty the battery. But I also don't go like nuts.
Oh well I ordered one. Trying to phase out the need for a car.
Advertised range is useless. Advertised battery capacity in WH is what's best. We can apply a standard wh/mi and get a actual range number. Motors and esc's aren't getting any more efficient.
True.
Hey Jimmy, great video as always.
Hope whoever wins the L-9 deserves it. If I won it I would be able to invite my friends on some group rides.
Jimmy..I'm 234 lbs. And i live here in colorado springs. How this thing handle hills? Using it for work and 10 miles. Distance. I hit few hills on my way to work. Thank you sir.
Excellent, valid video! I am actually looking for a scooter that goes at least 20 - 25 miles range at 35- 40 mph for city commuting, any ideas?!
One pro of Onewheel is that the advertised range is genueine
Correct. One of the few PEV companies that doesn't grossly over inflate range.
It seems battery Wh is the most important indicator of range.
I would like to know what app you used to track distance?
the speed ,the speed
Did the s1 replace the l9 or is it a region thing where some countries call it s1 and others call it l9? I'm in Australia and the l9 doesn't seem to be available anywhere here.
How do you stop tho?
Hahaha
Thank you.
That’s cool how your son is a senior in high school. Most parents with senior kids aren’t as cool as you😂
Good vid
I don’t trust the given numbers for ANY device, and I think that giving the range under “best conditions” is incredibly misleading, particularly considering the size of the average American, and the fact that they’re unlikely to have a smooth paved road for the entire ride, let alone ride it slow only
Really, they should give the realistic range. It might not be as eye catching as the best conditions, but it’s better to overperform than to underperform.
If I put myself in the company's shoes, I can see where they are coming from. It's tough when everyone else is giving inflated numbers.
@@freshlycharged
I can understand that they want to put the best numbers forward, and that as the number are obtainable it's not lying per se, but it's rather misleading
Not only that, it makes it difficult to plan trips. If I'm given a estimated range of 25 miles, I'm probably going to plan for around 20 miles, which should be enough to get the most from my device and not run out of juice at an inconvenient time . If they're only fudging the numbers a little, 20 should be fine. But if they're exaggerating the numbers a lot, and the "real" range is closer to 17-19, that could be an issue.
Now, with a scooter, it's a mild issue, as you technically could kick-push it, but for the one wheel or EUC, that's not an option. And carrying 25+ LBS for two miles or more isn't fun
That's why I like the scooters the best. Peace of mind is very important to me
Electric scooters 🛴 = cool 😎
Aint Josh that kid from the parking lot studing to for the finals who?
no. different kid.
Pls make onewheel vids
got a topic you want to see covered?
Actually 30 miles isn't bad at all.
30 miles 🤯
Yowza!
I get 21 miles out of my lemotion S1 😱
I get 20mls at 15mph 😱
Jimmy, could you do a review of the Emove Cruiser Scooter ....advertised 62 miles
If I can get my hands on one, I'll do it.
I have one and this is accurate, mine is a year old and I get about 50 miles still.
I saw a test of a scooter, the E-move Cruiser that claims 62 miles, the guy tested it, full throttle the whole time, and he got a few miles extra!
Interesting enough the Cruiser is probably the only scooter I have come across that actually gets the advertised range. It's my daily commuter because that's exactly what I need. Living in the suburbs it's not uncommon for me to do over 30 miles in a day.
HALF the advertised range? And you used lightweight riders on flat smooth ground? That's embarrassing...😳
I design things for a living and keep the specs honest, but with many PEV ridables the manufacturer is simply DISHONEST with their advertised range. It's sad but true.
I agree with the commenter below that they should just provide the accurate spec for watt hours. Then a smart purchaser can have a good idea of range compared to other PEVs with similar sized batteries because PEV efficiencies are very similar.
Or, just do real world tests with normal people at normal speeds and report the ACTUAL range that normal people get. That's a lot more honest than most PEV manufacturers.
And credit to Onewheel; on flat tarmac I actually get better range than their official spec! Honest is good... 👍
Completely agree. Kudos to OW for advertising a more accurate range estimate.
@Danny C agreed! The embarrassing thing is that they advertise 60 miles range when it has a real range of 30 miles...
@@wizrom3046 InMotion did get 59 miles...but in "Eco" mode with a 160 lbs rider on level terrain. Jimmy is doing a range test in the cold...snow on the ground. Batteries don't like the cold. I get 35 miles in "Drive" mode no problem. I don't use "Eco" because it's very slow...maybe just to limp home.
@@joshuamcpherson007 hmmm, 59 miles when the rider is an anorexic Elf and has a magical tailwind... 🧝♂️🧚♂️
@@wizrom3046 The anorexic Elf in the range test weighed 165 lbs, so there's that. I am generally skeptical of all range claims. That said, the L9 gets better range than most other scooters. Here's an eyebrow-raising range test that doesn't come from InMotion...watch @3:56. ruclips.net/video/zPEcyltj73M/видео.html. I just returned from a 23 mile ride today. Half the time I was in "Drive" mode, the other half I was in "Eco" mode... because the trails are scenic and I wanted to take my time. At the end of the 23 miles I had 45% battery left. If I had continued to consume battery charge at that rate, I would have traveled 42 miles to drain the battery. That's pretty good in my view. If I had stayed in "Eco" the entire time, I would have likely have reached 50 miles.
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that track rubber is horrible for range test. too soft
No child-labor laws broken here at all.
Duhh common sense THIS is most foolish question EVER asked... it's like asking WHY DOES A CAR GET LESS RANGE WHEN YOU FN FLOOR IT 24 7?!?😱😂gee I wonder!
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