@@nxvh9062 Agreed. 150 is stupid. My NG+5 FTH/STR char (pre dlc) is level 360 and my my NG+2 DEX/ARC char (that I started dlc with on NG+2) is level 240 and counting. Probably 250 by the time I am on NG+3. I have multiple characters that are around level 150 but I am not even done with NG on them. 150 is too low, it should be minimum 250.
I'm confident that this will be safe the only reason perfume got nerfed is cuz the glitch where you aim it at the ground. Impenetrable thorns is powerful but only when player use all the right talismans and stats and armor to make it so. Nothing with the spells itself
Edit: You can use alberiches set if you want, i didnt because i also included a weapon 9:30 alberiches set only provides a buff for the spell and only on the head chest and hands, no buff from his pants. so you would only want to use the chest or hands here. i just prefer rakshasa for an overall damage buff and better armor stats but yeah use whatever you want lol
but doesnt rakshasas set make the armor stats pretty useless because of the more damage debuff? at least if its a boss that cant be killed in a few seconds through this
Glad to see the Blacksteel Twinblade getting love, not enough people talk about it which is a damn shame. It reminds me of pre-nerf Backhand Blades, those guys could also insta-bleed with their running R2's while being faster. But the Twinblade is a welcome replacement.
I tried farming those two Black Knights north of the High Road Cross S.O.G., but I don't think they drop the twinblade. I got a bunch of armor pieces if anyone wants a set, or 50.
I really hope they don't nerf this one. This works so well in NG+7 with buff stacking. I was literally ready to quit playing until this, so thanks. I'll be pissed if they nerf us again. The PvE is tough enough at NG+7.
4:10 ouhh thank god. I hate seeing those stupid helm&talisman swapping vids...ppl sitting outside of a boss door for 20 mins constantly switching through the equipment menu 😂. Fr tho this is one of yhe best elden ring channels i have ever seen I WISH I FOUND UR CHANNEL SOONER 🙌🙏 SYROBE IS GOATED🐐.
I’m so glad I beat the final boss pre-patch with rolling sparks. Because I was not beating him. He was too ridiculous. I may not have beat grayle or anything. But I’m not going back. Especially since I already seen spoilers and the fights. And I explored and got every map location so I’m good.
good video pretty sure alberich's set wiht white mask is a better dps then the new set it boost thorn sorecy and should be around 18% more dmg compared to rakshasa set
alberich set works but the pants dont give the buff, only the chest and gauntlets would be useable here, i prefered rakshasa since i also included a weapon not just the sorcery @ 9:30
Jellyfish Shield buff in left hand I find is about equal or better than having the thorn staff in the left hand. It increases all damage by 20% for 30 seconds. I never do seppuku or sacred bloody flesh. I only use white mask, the blood talisman, spell talisman, golden vow, and jellyfish shield buff.
After dying about 10 times with another strategy, I tried this strategy and absolutely wrecked Messmer on my second attempt. Great suggestions all around!
05:22 wow, so surprised fextralife doesn't have the information /s More interesting to see that you and that waifu YT channel tackle this spell totally different. And she also released it at more or less the same time :P I did try your version of the older build, and just ran around killing mobs mostly with it (I can't find any more bosses, and I havent even beaten the game..big L) and I was kinda underwhelmed, but it obviously is WAY more potent against bosses or bigger enemies as shown on your videos and waifu video. Unsure if I have another respec in me xD but maybe :P Didn't get to try the rolling spark lightning bottle at all before the nerf, so using something utterly broken before its nerfed would be fun!
Thx for the heIp! I managed did 17300 damage to last boss, phasing him with a single cast. I went with 40 int, 80 arc and the Beloved Stardust talisman.
used a slightly different version of this on the final boss yesterday, stats were different so I could still use the black knight shield and elden beasts sword because it's aow does a lot of damage to him in the first phase, ca. 3-5K per hit. The boss was still the hardest I've ever fought, impossible without a shield, took me 5 hours trying anything out and then another 3 to finally kill him with the thorns and the sword. so thanks. Im never gonna fight him again lmao. its like he's on NG+7 even though I had all 50 scadu fragments and the highest possible resistances, still one or two shot me. Before the update he felt much easier for some reason, almost had him on my 3rd attempt, did they nerf everything else but buff him or was he somehow bugged for me ...?
It’s all good info, but you made a point to say it wasn’t about buff stacking so I was intrigued to just see a straight forward consistent dmg setup. Then between the consumables, buffs, and flask it felt like a bunch of different things that had to happen before actually playing the game.
Don't have seppuku yet,.. amazingly 🤦 but still works just fine on ng4. After beating it with the blood fiend arm the first time,.. because i missed this thorn spell,.. my mage had to get revenge. 😎
I could’ve sworn you made this video before, it is actually how I took down the final boss in my 2nd play through. Either way thanks for the build, the last boss is truly infuriating
It's interesting that this spell seems to deal magic damage since regular magic seems to do jack diddly squat to most of the bosses. Maybe the damage output is just THAT high?
You’re the best elden ring build maker who actually brings things together to get the most out of them. And they work on NG+ unlike some peoples builds where they pump them out daily and they’re all incredible mid cough cough
Tried a few tips for fighting radhan, none worked for me, never got him below 50%. Impenetrable thorns with a few magic and blood buffs, and he melted.
alberich set works but the pants dont give the buff, only the chest and gauntlets would be useable here, i prefered rakshasa since i also included a weapon not just the sorcery @ 9:30
Any advice on an INT-ARC spellblade/halfcaster? My read so far has been to only hit stat minimums for FAI and INT then just pile into dex & arc, as the current infusions make INT-ARC melee a nightmare.
great guide! Does it matter which seal you use? I assume we are off-handing another staff just for the thorns buff so it doesn't need to be leveled correct?
So can you tell me if this buff rotation works? I feel it does in this buff order: Mushroom helm / hand /poisonpot (unique) Dumpling helm / hand (unique) Shabiri (body) White Mask Golden Vow (aura) Magic and bloody tears Sepuko (weapon) (not needed to stay out) Sacred Bloody flesh (unique) Appreciate the advice.
Honestly, I disregard anything that has more than a 3-4 buff setup. The most I'm doing is golden vow, physick and boiled crab. I dont even do terra magicka anymore but I understand that and flame grant me strength (I hate short lasting buffs anyway). I aint got time for all that nomo and it's not practical. I try to keep it to like 5 seconds of buffing. All that to say, good job keeping the buffs to a minimum.
I've spent the LAST 4 days trying to beat Messmar, I just wasn't doing enough damage, I tried thumb nail shield builds, I tried Thunder God build with the twin axes, I tried everything, but FOR THE FIRST time using your build I was able to 4 shot messmar XD thaaaank you also the serpant talisman I can't get it this playthrough
Pretty sure Rakshasa gives a 7% boost to all damage per piece so Alberich's set is worse. Though you would be taking less damage which is also a consideration.
alberich set works but the pants dont give the buff, only the chest and gauntlets would be useable here, i prefered rakshasa since i also included a weapon not just the sorcery @ 9:30
THIS BUILD WAS NERFED Patch 1.13 HERES THE BEST BUILD TO REPLACE IT ruclips.net/video/VLi3itOIujs/видео.htmlfeature=shared
Rest in peace rolling sparks… only ogs will know the shortest lifespan of the most broken build
It was my biggest love Since Release...iam pissed
I still got it lol I just dont update, got no one to play online with
@@MrWTFOMFGROFL you got disc version? I try it but my Digital copy says it needs online...shit...
lasted me 12 hours
Its still pretty good vs large enemies like dragons.
"Only for level 200 and above."
me as a level 250 : Very nice
honestly, staying at 150 is fuckin stupid even if pvp is your main gig - there's just no reason to limit to such a low level
@@nxvh9062i’m on 176 and i’m already getting annoyed i can’t use more than one build so i might just go to 200 maybe 220
Lmfao same here
you made me check my level and I was at 199 lmao, went and farmed the last one.
@@nxvh9062 Agreed. 150 is stupid. My NG+5 FTH/STR char (pre dlc) is level 360 and my my NG+2 DEX/ARC char (that I started dlc with on NG+2) is level 240 and counting. Probably 250 by the time I am on NG+3.
I have multiple characters that are around level 150 but I am not even done with NG on them. 150 is too low, it should be minimum 250.
this spell survived the first patch let's hope that survives the next one
working as intended
With everyone and their mother posting crap about it you can guarantee it will get nerfed 😢
I think the game needs a easy one shot type build this is basically base game version of comet azur
I'm confident that this will be safe the only reason perfume got nerfed is cuz the glitch where you aim it at the ground. Impenetrable thorns is powerful but only when player use all the right talismans and stats and armor to make it so. Nothing with the spells itself
@@MagicMaster997 also is risk and reward, you leave yourself open to a lot of attacks that could kill u
Edit: You can use alberiches set if you want, i didnt because i also included a weapon 9:30 alberiches set only provides a buff for the spell and only on the head chest and hands, no buff from his pants. so you would only want to use the chest or hands here. i just prefer rakshasa for an overall damage buff and better armor stats but yeah use whatever you want lol
Couldn't you use the bloodsucking crystal tear for another 20% damage buff?
Please don’t post these brother they’ll nerf this again 😢
but doesnt rakshasas set make the armor stats pretty useless because of the more damage debuff? at least if its a boss that cant be killed in a few seconds through this
I heard the this set doesn’t boost the 2 dlc sadutree sorceries
@@borisdaturtle3741 11:45. He discusses the physics options. I had the same comment. 😂
man the amount of information in your videos is far superior from any other channel i see in youtube, congrats for the great job, have my sub.
My man, doing all the math so we can prosper with these strong builds.
"I did the math so you don't have to", Man I love that phrase.
9:10 that’s a crazy line bro😭
6:23 Sudoku 😂
Ever thought about committing sudoku? 🤣 as soon as I heard it I cracked up
This game makes me feel like committing sudoku 95% of the time….
Was going to say the same 🤣
Glad to see the Blacksteel Twinblade getting love, not enough people talk about it which is a damn shame. It reminds me of pre-nerf Backhand Blades, those guys could also insta-bleed with their running R2's while being faster. But the Twinblade is a welcome replacement.
No it's not lol hope the casuals don't find out how good it can be
I tried farming those two Black Knights north of the High Road Cross S.O.G., but I don't think they drop the twinblade. I got a bunch of armor pieces if anyone wants a set, or 50.
@@Safetyman99there’s a specific twinblade knight that drops it guaranteed
@@Itachi-xi9sl Yeah - figured that out later.
“Self activated by just committing sudoku” lol
Working as intended
Currently, best build theory crafting yt channel. By a long shot. Keep up the good work, man!
The problem with the consumables is their infrequent drop rate; I've only got 2, so I guess I'll save them for a boss
Does Howl of Shabriri boost the damage of Impenetrable Thorns?
I really hope they don't nerf this one. This works so well in NG+7 with buff stacking. I was literally ready to quit playing until this, so thanks. I'll be pissed if they nerf us again. The PvE is tough enough at NG+7.
4:10 ouhh thank god. I hate seeing those stupid helm&talisman swapping vids...ppl sitting outside of a boss door for 20 mins constantly switching through the equipment menu 😂. Fr tho this is one of yhe best elden ring channels i have ever seen I WISH I FOUND UR CHANNEL SOONER 🙌🙏 SYROBE IS GOATED🐐.
Just killed the last boss with this build. Thank you!
Max cheese.
Do you have a good madness build? I haven’t seen any good one’s lately.
Seems like madness is only really utilized in PvP. 90 percent of bosses in PvE aren’t affected by madness
Definition of glass canon my god
I’m so glad I beat the final boss pre-patch with rolling sparks. Because I was not beating him. He was too ridiculous. I may not have beat grayle or anything. But I’m not going back. Especially since I already seen spoilers and the fights. And I explored and got every map location so I’m good.
good video pretty sure alberich's set wiht white mask is a better dps then the new set it boost thorn sorecy and should be around 18% more dmg compared to rakshasa set
alberich set works but the pants dont give the buff, only the chest and gauntlets would be useable here, i prefered rakshasa since i also included a weapon not just the sorcery @ 9:30
Jellyfish Shield buff in left hand I find is about equal or better than having the thorn staff in the left hand. It increases all damage by 20% for 30 seconds. I never do seppuku or sacred bloody flesh. I only use white mask, the blood talisman, spell talisman, golden vow, and jellyfish shield buff.
Make a Ansbach bow build. 1 shotting one
After dying about 10 times with another strategy, I tried this strategy and absolutely wrecked Messmer on my second attempt. Great suggestions all around!
if i lost the chance of getting the maternal staff, can i use albinauric staff?
that's insane DPS, nice build
Thanks!
@@syrobe hey I missed the magic scorpion's charm, what can I use instead?
What’s the staff of the guilty for? I don’t understand 😅
Math wizard, I love how you break the game, true something else
what would be a good neutral game weapon for this build? somethign to clear ads on the way to bosses
"Wow, cool video or something, whatever..."
Nah but seriously I'll be revisiting this video when I get a bit further along XD
Walks into Radahn fight - Instantly one shot
Does flame grant me strength also stack with this build?
05:22 wow, so surprised fextralife doesn't have the information /s
More interesting to see that you and that waifu YT channel tackle this spell totally different. And she also released it at more or less the same time :P I did try your version of the older build, and just ran around killing mobs mostly with it (I can't find any more bosses, and I havent even beaten the game..big L) and I was kinda underwhelmed, but it obviously is WAY more potent against bosses or bigger enemies as shown on your videos and waifu video. Unsure if I have another respec in me xD but maybe :P Didn't get to try the rolling spark lightning bottle at all before the nerf, so using something utterly broken before its nerfed would be fun!
Always great man. Thanku!
Thx for the heIp! I managed did 17300 damage to last boss, phasing him with a single cast. I went with 40 int, 80 arc and the Beloved Stardust talisman.
proceeds to get one shot by radahn
used a slightly different version of this on the final boss yesterday, stats were different so I could still use the black knight shield and elden beasts sword because it's aow does a lot of damage to him in the first phase, ca. 3-5K per hit. The boss was still the hardest I've ever fought, impossible without a shield, took me 5 hours trying anything out and then another 3 to finally kill him with the thorns and the sword. so thanks. Im never gonna fight him again lmao. its like he's on NG+7 even though I had all 50 scadu fragments and the highest possible resistances, still one or two shot me. Before the update he felt much easier for some reason, almost had him on my 3rd attempt, did they nerf everything else but buff him or was he somehow bugged for me ...?
It’s all good info, but you made a point to say it wasn’t about buff stacking so I was intrigued to just see a straight forward consistent dmg setup. Then between the consumables, buffs, and flask it felt like a bunch of different things that had to happen before actually playing the game.
Thanks for your work !!
Don't have seppuku yet,.. amazingly 🤦 but still works just fine on ng4.
After beating it with the blood fiend arm the first time,.. because i missed this thorn spell,.. my mage had to get revenge. 😎
Can you make a fast build to help with the final dlc boss?
“Commit ritual sudoku” 😂😂😂
Excellent work, mate!
For a 150 build, would you just reduce INT & ARC evenly?
I could’ve sworn you made this video before, it is actually how I took down the final boss in my 2nd play through. Either way thanks for the build, the last boss is truly infuriating
good video ( have not finished it just know its gonna be good )
It's interesting that this spell seems to deal magic damage since regular magic seems to do jack diddly squat to most of the bosses. Maybe the damage output is just THAT high?
the one and only MVP of the ER scene; top job and thanks for the update & time you spent creating this!
could even beat gargoyle duo without manipulating them
Lmaoooo
Whats a good alternative for the magic scorpion talisman? I alr progressed and couldn’t do rannis questline
You’re the best elden ring build maker who actually brings things together to get the most out of them. And they work on NG+ unlike some peoples builds where they pump them out daily and they’re all incredible mid cough cough
After 2 hours this build let me nuke Consort on NG+5 screw taht boss but thanks for the build saved me stress
Tried a few tips for fighting radhan, none worked for me, never got him below 50%. Impenetrable thorns with a few magic and blood buffs, and he melted.
y’all remember when moonveil, sword of night and flame and rob was broken, this that but 100000x
Is that armor better than Alberich’s set for this spell then?
alberich set works but the pants dont give the buff, only the chest and gauntlets would be useable here, i prefered rakshasa since i also included a weapon not just the sorcery @ 9:30
Any advice on an INT-ARC spellblade/halfcaster?
My read so far has been to only hit stat minimums for FAI and INT then just pile into dex & arc, as the current infusions make INT-ARC melee a nightmare.
dude i made an rl1 build with impenetrable thorns and it fs doesnt delete bosses AS fast but it still is ridiculously fast
That's cause a lot of these guys leave out they are like level 700 San ng+7 in RL average players like 150
Great video bro that’s a sick build
"This is all easily self activated by commiting sodoku LOL" we know what you meant.
hey dude can u do gazing finger build like no seriously l would try this rn
Question, are all the weapons maxed out?
yeah except the staff of guilty in my off hand doesnt need to be upgraded just held out
I committed sudoku, but the numbers didn’t add up
If you made it to the hospital you best believe those numbers will tally.
@@aidan_hiattsudoku is a number puzzle. So sad that I have to explain my own jokes.
great guide! Does it matter which seal you use? I assume we are off-handing another staff just for the thorns buff so it doesn't need to be leveled correct?
So can you tell me if this buff rotation works? I feel it does in this buff order:
Mushroom helm / hand /poisonpot (unique)
Dumpling helm / hand (unique)
Shabiri (body)
White Mask
Golden Vow (aura)
Magic and bloody tears
Sepuko (weapon) (not needed to stay out)
Sacred Bloody flesh (unique)
Appreciate the advice.
The GOAT continues 🎉🎉🎉🎉
Honestly, I disregard anything that has more than a 3-4 buff setup. The most I'm doing is golden vow, physick and boiled crab. I dont even do terra magicka anymore but I understand that and flame grant me strength (I hate short lasting buffs anyway). I aint got time for all that nomo and it's not practical. I try to keep it to like 5 seconds of buffing. All that to say, good job keeping the buffs to a minimum.
You should make a full build video on that blacksteel twin blade going more into detail
I couldn't understand, what does the 1.5 modifier for strength mean? Why 12 strength and not 18?
if you two hand a greatsword you get 1.5x your strength
Oh I didn't know that. Thanks!
w vid brudder, i gotta slide to the stream
Would Thiolier's armor be better?
Killed final boss on 2 attempts first time. Using exactly this build. So easy
That's a shame, he's a decently fun boss if you just dodge into his left side. That said Phase 2 is still annoying so honestly I can't blame you.
Impenetrable Thorns is stronger as a faith build with dual staff of guilty for me. Doesn't need bleed.
any replacement ideas for the White Mask and Scorpion Talisman, i unfortunately cant get them anymore unless i play NG+
I almost happy cried seeing this video.😭😭😭😭😭😭
works with ng7+ but i preffer safer option with shield and normal armor, still 4 hits mesmer
Now this fucking feels like convergence mod damage wise
The fact that the bloodfiend arm was nerved and this one wasn't is crazy to me.
Bloodfien is still busted idk what you mean
I've spent the LAST 4 days trying to beat Messmar, I just wasn't doing enough damage, I tried thumb nail shield builds, I tried Thunder God build with the twin axes, I tried everything, but FOR THE FIRST time using your build I was able to 4 shot messmar XD thaaaank you also the serpant talisman I can't get it this playthrough
Love your builds Syrobe ❤, i am gunna try this for sure before they nerf this 🥺
Bro with your stats you aren’t able to use black steel twinblade (it require 18 strength and you have 12)
Gotta use it 2 handed
Close enough, welcome back Mohg
I've been using mad Albrechts hat and gloves to boost thorns sorcery
I hit lvl 265 before my 1st ng+ I don't plan to lvl up again until +3.😅
Finally 🎉 The Wait is Over Guys
This what makes ER the best fromsoft game you can do so many builds colorful areas ahm(ds3)
To the point you can Customize difficulty
this is probably the strongest build in the game right now (this or the good old Ancient dragon lightning strike)
For Radahn fight, highly recommend adding ironjar aromatic to the mix. Makes spamming attacks much easier, especially in the second phase
Alberich's Robe boosts thorn sorceries 6%, so you could be hitting harder still.
Pretty sure Rakshasa gives a 7% boost to all damage per piece so Alberich's set is worse. Though you would be taking less damage which is also a consideration.
@@aidan_hiatt It's 2% per piece .
Try the blood sucking . With blessing of the erd tree . Feather talisman and royal remains armour
Babe wake up. The GOAT has posted a video
Why finger seal and not dragon seal or golden order?
What tool you used 11:20 for showing the build?
alberich's set would boost the damage even more
More than Rakshasa's Armor?
alberich set works but the pants dont give the buff, only the chest and gauntlets would be useable here, i prefered rakshasa since i also included a weapon not just the sorcery @ 9:30
I havent even watched it yet and kniw its gonna be good
Bro I love my thorn sorc build I hope they don't nerf this spell making it useless
love you rolling sparks 💔
Can we get some salutes for rolling sparks👇
o7
How does this compare to dropping INT and just going FAITH and using Staff of the Guilty?
Rest in peace it has been nerfed :(
Hey bro .. was wondering if you could upload a new op rot build .. I have something set up but would love to see your build