@@yblackieit’s a cash grab kuz the first was one of the highest selling box office films, the sequel was always expected, and not to mention they added Gaga for some reason
The problem is this wasn't a cash grab actually. If it were, they would have done fan service and put all the stuff people wanted in it and it would have been half decent at worst. Instead, they said hey let's try to be artists and show how brilliant we are and make a dumb weird concept.
Everyone was expecting Joker to mess up Harley’s mind in Arkham and turn her into Harley Quinn and then escape and wreak havoc in Gotham while both of them having a toxic relationship but what did we get instead 😂😂😂
Arthur Fleck is not the 'criminal mastermind' Joker we saw in The Dark Knight. I think this was intentional though. He inspires the True Joker we all know and love.
Making joker 2 a musical is the most stupidest thing i ever witnessed Studios really didn’t like money because after joker 1 they said nah we don’t want any profit
I thought the director was against making a second Joker movie so when he was forced to, he made it a piece of shit that no one would want to see.. but maybe that was just rumours
@@lm6827 It. Is. A. Joker. Musical. 🤦♂️ Next even worse movie idea could be Joker III - Menage à trois avec Bàtmán. (No color, just a black and white movie.)
The reactions that the first Joker got were phenomenal especially from a lonely demographic of people. The whole basis of the first movie was that it's okay to let go of all the clustered emotions built up within you and bring chaos into the world, a lot of people would have crashed out.
@@suleimanjuma1462I thought the message of the first film was that the world we live in doesn’t treat mentally ill/ neurodivergent individuals very kindly. Remember how people treated the 'weird' kid in high school? yeah, you’ve probably seen it first hand. The movie is a cautionary tale about how the way we treat others in an uncaring world has actual consequences. People don’t lose their shit for no reason. Now, if the message actually was about it being okay to harm others for some weird reason, then yeah, I’m almost kinda glad the second movie 'meaningfully' flopped in that case.
Lmao i wouldn’t call the first joker peak cinema. Clearly ripped off of Scorcese but more importantly the Joker is supposed to be a menacing criminal mastermind not a depressed cry baby with schizophrenia. They just made their own movie and somehow tied in the joker. But hey to each their own.
Only reason why Joker 1 did so well is everyone wanted to see if it would come close to Heath Ledgers' performance. It didn't but was still ok, however many were left unsatisfied! Joker 2 stood no Chance
speak for yourself, i thought it was every bit as good, it was just different, it was more grounded, realistic and mental health focused, might not have been as cinematic but was gritty, believable and very well acted
@@SwinkyTV The world entered the dark timeline immediately after the 90s ended. We went from 90s optimism through to war on terror and financial crisis to financial crisis.
@@Anonymous1_1-r6b thats one of the themes in joker 2 got it wrong. that actually what the people want. They think people want real evil Joker which is not true. They made Joker really evil its anti joker to me. We want a gangsta joker which against corrupt systems, police brutality, social class inequality. income divisiveness. The joker that stand up for vulnerable. thats what we want. I hope we will see solo heath ledger Joker and a gangsta joker film in the future. let me direct that film, Warner Bros. give me 250 millions budget, i know exactly how to make that film 😂. smh
@vmoonlight4962 wtf why rewrite the joker. He's literally the most evil guy in DC . No need to add a shit hollywood story to everything. Sorry but it just happens too much this days
@@A_Succelent_Chinese_Meali disagree with you. joker 2 could’ve worked if it was worthy of being a sequel. even if you could tell it was a forced sequel, the movie could’ve been amazing like the first movie and be worthy of existing
@@Mythowars Yeah uh huh uh huh, lets add in misgony in the comment and ignore the problem, focus on the woman with cooties as the problem oh no the tragedy Honestly your opinion sucks
This was an obviously bad idea for a movie. I knew I wasn't going to watch because I could tell that Phoenix is more annoying than ever as Joker. I actually hate his fckng dance moves.
Nooo Joker 2 should have had him as a full blown villain in arkham but craft the story like “one flew over the cuckoo’s nest” where he causes havoc and inspires the inmates to stage a revolt against the institutional rule while becoming their savior figure he still comes off emphatically if you frame him more like his character fighting against the rules and structures of arkham and helping inmates who have been told by oppressive society they’re crazy to embrace their true nature. Then the movie ends with us thinking he’s been killed or martyred for the other inmates but he goes on to become the clown prince of crime. At least it would have been a more satisfying ending.
That would have been a cool movie and an interesting arc for the character. Unfortunately the studio couldn't have that because they're allergic to well written characters nowadays
I would like to add him being the catalyst for the villians to band together and take on the city like how usually it's batman that creates the villains but this time it's joker in arkham inspiring and rallying them,like poison ivy and such
I went to a theater to see this it was fucking empty me and my cousin laughed our ass off at how bad it was it left us mind fucked by the time we left we had to watch road house to get that abomination out of our heads never thought they could make something so fucking horrible this shit had me collecting the last of my braincells off the floor the whole ride back i actually cried that night thinking of how good it actually could've been fml never watch this damned movie
I knew it was bad after coming across videos about it. So I made sure my grandpa doesn't choose this film and instead a Jackie Chan masterpiece. Ironic how a film starring a Hong Kong star is at least more enjoyable than DC's hot garbage nowadays.
Now i know how the boys felt in that indiana jones south park episode I think they have set the record for the deepest fall a fictive character has ever fallen
Thought it was really good. It was an arthouse film, like the first. It only has a sheen of superheroes comic over it. People didn't understood it. Surprising, after the fact the first Joker was exactly the same, minus the musical aspect. Which in any case, Joker 2 can barely be considered a musical.
I wanted a Joker in the asylum with Harley manipulating her with love and both them escaping and reuniting with the clown posse turning them into a gang. Instead we got lady googoogaga trying to show her talent that faded since the 2000s
because the director said that the 1st movie was "liked by the wrong people" thats why he made the 2nd one a musical , to course correct it and get rid of all the r1ght wing3rs in the fanbase 😂😂
Best movie? You're reaching nowhere, mate. It's good but never great. It becomes a phenomenon just due to how many media want to shut it down but failed. That's literally it.
@@casinodertoten721 It isn't stupid to predict that people won't like what you do with a character. Its very easy to predict that people won't be happy if you tell them the joker in your joker film isn't actually the joker also insulting your audience in and of itself is pretentious as hell. The film thinks its smarter than its audience, but it isn't. Also the ending is absolutely laughable. yes i get it "the Joker is an idea" but its still ham-fisted overdone and rubbish. The problem with Phillips is that he is someone who isn't particularly bright who thinks he is an intellectual. There is nothing clever about Joker 2, nor was there anything original with the first film, it was a poor man's taxi driver in clown make up, with none of the nuance or complexity of that film.
@@TheCrazyGuy2002 bruh stfu that shit was so plain and boring it wasn’t entertaining at all. If u think that was taste then you’re lame like the fucking movie 🤣
I didn't even have to see the movie itself to know that it was going to be a disappointment. As soon as I heard that it was going to be a musical...I knew.
Third and also if the director named Todd Phillips did say most of the movie was Arthur Fleck dreams then he shouldn’t said it was Arthur Fleck complex dream and nightmare. That would save the movie sequel in my opinion.
Literally the movie made its point. Y’all are only interested in what you think Joker is, not in what Arthur Fleck was or what actually happened to him to make him like that- you like hearing about all the reckless, careless sabotage, and the monologues and jokes, but not the musicals and the dancing which was what Fleck held dear. And so just like everyone else, you’ll leave him. Maybe even go out of your way to kill him out of spite for him taking away “your” character.
This is a very romanticized overdramatic take. There’s a concept in story telling call Occam’s razor “if it has no point to the story then DON’T tell it” and that can apply to this aswell not that it has no meaning in the story but that this movie wasn’t anything anyone wanted to see. What’s the point of making a message in the movie if nobody is recommending it. Even if that WAS the point of joker 2 you don’t think there is a better way of telling that story? So if you’re gonna make a movie that is in foreign territory why the joker?
I just think some lonely guys wanna live vicariously through a fictional character because they themselves feel powerless. Ultimately I didn’t care too much abt this stuff.
Seriously, joker 2 should’ve been where Arthur officially became the clown prince of crime and he was slowly taking Gotham by storm with his new girlfriend Harley Quinn
arthur fleck was never going to be the clown prince of crime. this is not a comic-accurate joker, it's a realistic one portraying a severely mentally ill man
@@conastycorleone5261 Which also isn‘t really true. Cause everybody has one. Plus The Dark Knight is just one of many incarnations of this character. He does have a shown origin story in quite many comics. Killing Joke is one of them.
All they needed was a dark knight touch to the second movie but wtv. I didnt like the first one, but kinda had hopes for the second with more action, and maybe batman appearence
Talented the bitch wears meat as a dress talking about talented the only thing with talent on the hoe is her nose kick bricks bro take that shit else where
A clear message to the audience saying “you watch what we want you to watch and you like what we say yo like”. Let this be an opportunity of discernment of what you consume, what you give your energy to. Remember that your energy is the model precious currency in the entire universe.
Look at when the joker came out. Then look when the BLM riots/protests took place. After I saw this I called it. Easy to see the brainwashing once you're privy. Ive not seen this cause I know it's just more programing. They don't care about fandom. They are using this movie to brainwash people into rooting for evil and sympathetic towards evil people in their evil. Music makes it far easier to brainwash people then just flash imagery thankfully nobody cared or liked it so the effects will be minimal. Something big is coming folks. Read a few chapters of behold a pale horse and learn a thing or two about the powers that be. The silent war. You name it. You are being deceived by the world government. Whoever doesn't comfort to the federal banking system the UN the trilateral commission the wef the who the bank of England the Vatican, illuminated ones aka luciferins all bas
What happens when the role you take up fully overcomes the person underneath and the only thing they are interested in seeing is Joker. Playing the role for others until it's too much to bare throwing it away and die because it, no one will ever care for Arthur Fleck but there will always be a Joker that is his tragedy.
the real joker is born in the end , this movie is not what we all wanted , but in my mind it makes sense a joker personality should be even in a bipolar disorder , needs to be overly sided to the bad side .. the clown is dead and now the psycho is born with his devil smile ... The story continues
Nobody sees that the musical aspect was supposed to be a glimpse into how their minds worked, vs what their reality was. I dont know what people expected; i thought it was good.
You can subvert expectations and still have a good result. A Clockwork Orange, The One That Flew Over the Cookoo House. This is not one of those examples though
this movie was brilliant actually. Completely inspired by Lars Von Trier dancer in the dark. Lots of creative choices meant to screw you up with the contrast of what’s really happening
Looks like the joke was on us
Hense the name: THE JOKER😅
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
🎉
Gotta love how these directors subverting our expectations.
Yes it was im glad youll got what u asked for i didnt even watch first i know that shit wrong
I pirated Joker 2 and i want my money back.
😂
No refunds
😂
Same 😂
I saw it was a musical and decided to spend my time watching the one twilight movie just to see that creepy baby
That’s the twist, the audience were the jokers for buying a ticket 😂
Lol
It reminds me of the scene from the movie " heat ".
Mcu fanboys lol
@@hernandez1590_ huh?
Lol 😂
I dont understand how they could fuck it up so badly. The ending of the first movie set it up so well to be a great movie
The first one sent the wrong message so Hollywood 'fixed' it.
That's exactly it. @@vegalacerda6097
It was done on purpose 😂😂
They hate us
Because it is deliberate
Who ever thought this should of been a musical should be fired
Thank lady gaga
Lady gaga
@@SOLIDSNAKE.that damn hermaphrodite!
Stupid big *** ***** *** big **** ****** gaga@@SOLIDSNAKE.
@@b.w.5500 yup
Him walking out the train station is such a great shot
The moment I heard it was gonna be a musical, I knew this would happen. Atleast we got Joker 1.
Yes, at least we did
Let's all just pretend this doesn't exist.
@@iPixie66yep there was only one joker movie.
@as_studios7 yes it taints its legacy, that’s why there is no joker 2. Never heard of it?
It's like the bad Star Wars movies, I'll just live in a world where I pretend they never got made 😂
Producers: *smokes crack
Also producer: Omg. I have a great idea for Joker 2.
The crack would have made the writing better
this isn't crack, this is pure fentanyl
Should've let Joker pull out a microphone and start beatboxing then it'll be peak cinema experience
My favorite part was when Joker pulls out a microphone and then says "It's Joking Time" and then proceeds to Joke all over everyone
I’m literally so happy joker 2 is flopping horribly. Nothing makes me happier than seeing cash grab shitty ass sequels fall on their faces
i made a chuckle at this comment 💀 thanks for that origamistuffs
How is this a cash grab sequel? The safe choice would literally have been to not make it a musical😂
@@yblackieit’s a cash grab kuz the first was one of the highest selling box office films, the sequel was always expected, and not to mention they added Gaga for some reason
@@yblackieyeah this comment makes no sense. I give them props for trying to be different but clearly it didn’t work that well
The problem is this wasn't a cash grab actually. If it were, they would have done fan service and put all the stuff people wanted in it and it would have been half decent at worst. Instead, they said hey let's try to be artists and show how brilliant we are and make a dumb weird concept.
You know ur movie is bad when madame web is rated higher 💀🙏
Nah that is crazyyy 😂
@Sn.rv14 what do you mean
It's not rated higher at all..
Has 3x the rotten tomato score as madame web, and a higher imdb score as well.
@Sn.rv14look at yours
Some people actually enjoy giant balls of turkey lol
If it was just a musical special and not Joker 2 then I would have been happy with it
Glad a star is born got a sequel
😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
💀
You won🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Fiuuuuuuuuuccckkkk
Thank u im dead 😂😂😂
Everyone was expecting Joker to mess up Harley’s mind in Arkham and turn her into Harley Quinn and then escape and wreak havoc in Gotham while both of them having a toxic relationship but what did we get instead 😂😂😂
Literally what I was expecting
Yeah i stopped watching it a hour in 🤦🏾♂
Maybe even a young Bruce Wayne Cameo cause didn’t he lose his parents in the last one 😂
That would have been great cinema and quite accurate to the original story… and we can’t have that in Hollywood
You got the true ending, Arthur was never joker, but you're like lee...you don't care unless he's causing chaos
Arthur Fleck is not the 'criminal mastermind' Joker we saw in The Dark Knight. I think this was intentional though. He inspires the True Joker we all know and love.
then why call it Joker?????
@@DaniloSantosVieira The Joker is a philosophy, not a person. As portrayed in Cameron Monaghan's adaptation.
Making joker 2 a musical is the most stupidest thing i ever witnessed
Studios really didn’t like money because after joker 1 they said nah we don’t want any profit
They desperately wanted to be edgy and artsy fartsy with Joker 2. What a mess. 🙄
I thought the director was against making a second Joker movie so when he was forced to, he made it a piece of shit that no one would want to see.. but maybe that was just rumours
@@Bingo2501 you're honestly going to say that part two is more desperately edgy than part 1
@@lm6827 It. Is. A. Joker. Musical. 🤦♂️
Next even worse movie idea could be Joker III - Menage à trois avec Bàtmán. (No color, just a black and white movie.)
No, it's not
That’s what we call a purposeful self sabotage
The reactions that the first Joker got were phenomenal especially from a lonely demographic of people. The whole basis of the first movie was that it's okay to let go of all the clustered emotions built up within you and bring chaos into the world, a lot of people would have crashed out.
Seems like it was a social rabbit hole somebody didn't wanna go down 🧐
Has to be
Good point.
@@suleimanjuma1462I thought the message of the first film was that the world we live in doesn’t treat mentally ill/ neurodivergent individuals very kindly. Remember how people treated the 'weird' kid in high school? yeah, you’ve probably seen it first hand. The movie is a cautionary tale about how the way we treat others in an uncaring world has actual consequences. People don’t lose their shit for no reason. Now, if the message actually was about it being okay to harm others for some weird reason, then yeah, I’m almost kinda glad the second movie 'meaningfully' flopped in that case.
Joker 2 made the cinema look like high school musical
Who ever made the decision to make it a musical is so high in the clouds they can't even see earth anymore.
The main man Joaquin did
@@claytonlatone8959 I think Todd Phillips is most responsible.
Liberals.
@@MrYolo777 All Todd Phillps' friends.
Simpsons, family guy, now joker. Ruined by musicals. Fu ck off with this gaay azz shiit
Man the end of Joker 1 was peak cinema. The build up to something darker, could've been the best joker story we've seen. But nope.
It was also garbage
Lmao i wouldn’t call the first joker peak cinema. Clearly ripped off of Scorcese but more importantly the Joker is supposed to be a menacing criminal mastermind not a depressed cry baby with schizophrenia. They just made their own movie and somehow tied in the joker. But hey to each their own.
Nah i think phoenix joker is based on heath joker concept of all it takes its one bad day@@multiplepassions3694
@@multiplepassions3694 I clearly said ending. And it was a very good cliffhanger to what could be a very dark and grim Joker follow up.
@@Grodstark a good ending doesn’t make up for a movie with flaws
I cant believe they dropped the ball like this
I haven't even thought about watching it but i want my thoughts back now
😂😂👌🏻
It took me a whole week to forget about this movie and you go and remind me of its existence. Thank you😞
Joker 1&2 never happened in my opinion. Sequel made the original worse.
@@MrZombikillagood to know. I’ll just not watch it and stick to the first one. 😂
@@MrZombikilla Exactly what I've been saying. The sequel ruined what the first movie built. I still regret the $16 I spent on watching it lol.
You get what you fuckin deserve for watching it, I refuse lol
Only reason why Joker 1 did so well is everyone wanted to see if it would come close to Heath Ledgers' performance. It didn't but was still ok, however many were left unsatisfied!
Joker 2 stood no Chance
I didn’t really feel unsatisfied, but it definitely didn’t top Ledger or even Nicholson, IMO. Still thought the first Joker was a great movie, though.
speak for yourself, i thought it was every bit as good, it was just different, it was more grounded, realistic and mental health focused, might not have been as cinematic but was gritty, believable and very well acted
At this point, I've just accepted we're in an alternate universe opposite of everything good😂😭
Geez your right... wtf did i just watch
Maybe 2012 really was the end of the world and we just didn’t realize it yet.
@@SwinkyTV
The world entered the dark timeline immediately after the 90s ended.
We went from 90s optimism through to war on terror and financial crisis to financial crisis.
Remember, those of you that are left wing, you are directly responsible for this.
We been here since 2020… 😭
The fact the cast agreed to even be in it.
Remember actors still getting paid the people who make it didn't 😂
They csn be whitelisted.
Lady Gaga wants to be in every movie, commercial, sporting event, interview, etc. It's not like she's picky about her work.
I watched the first Joker 3 times and thought it was great each time. I saw Joker 2 and it wasn't bad. IMHO it works as a sequel.
a gangser film would have worked so well
So true, a gangster with a good heart underneath thematic message would have rock the world but they reverse everthing 😢
@@vmoonlight4962the joker a good heart? no, hes pure evil in every comic or movie..
@@AIAudiobooks411they don’t read the comics 😂
@@Anonymous1_1-r6b thats one of the themes in joker 2 got it wrong. that actually what the people want. They think people want real evil Joker which is not true. They made Joker really evil its anti joker to me. We want a gangsta joker which against corrupt systems, police brutality, social class inequality. income divisiveness. The joker that stand up for vulnerable. thats what we want. I hope we will see solo heath ledger Joker and a gangsta joker film in the future. let me direct that film, Warner Bros. give me 250 millions budget, i know exactly how to make that film 😂. smh
@vmoonlight4962 wtf why rewrite the joker. He's literally the most evil guy in DC .
No need to add a shit hollywood story to everything. Sorry but it just happens too much this days
Joker: A star is born
Im actually proud to say I didn't go see Joker 2 in Theaters! I still haven't seen it but I'll maybe watch it when it comes on Tv in a year lol.
"There is no Joker, it's just me. Joaquin Phoenix"
It could’ve been so good
I disagree. It feels like this was meant to be a standalone film and adding to it could only cheapen the experience.
@@A_Succelent_Chinese_Meali disagree with you. joker 2 could’ve worked if it was worthy of being a sequel. even if you could tell it was a forced sequel, the movie could’ve been amazing like the first movie and be worthy of existing
@@Dapro9000 I think we can both agree the sequel was bad, I'm just saying there are certain films where a sequel is unnecessary. Gladiator 2? Really?
Honestly the addition of lady Gaga kinda sucked and killed it
@@Mythowars Yeah uh huh uh huh, lets add in misgony in the comment and ignore the problem, focus on the woman with cooties as the problem oh no the tragedy
Honestly your opinion sucks
Who else hasn't watched it and is laughing nervously?
A star is born Part 2. Literally. 😂
This was an obviously bad idea for a movie. I knew I wasn't going to watch because I could tell that Phoenix is more annoying than ever as Joker. I actually hate his fckng dance moves.
Phoenix had the idea of a musical in a literal dream lmao
You guys don’t get it, the new movie was a dive into his mind and his connection to Harley Quinn it wasn’t a continued origin
When House beats you by over a decade to your jukebox musical idea, you probably should rethink it
I almost forgot that scene 😂 that was a trip!
The director just spent time watching highschool musical marathon before making the movie...
I like how it was a musical, them singing makes them look more psychopathic
Except the singing was all in their heads. They weren't actually ainging in feont of people. It was about them fantasizing over the stupidest crap.
Nooo Joker 2 should have had him as a full blown villain in arkham but craft the story like “one flew over the cuckoo’s nest” where he causes havoc and inspires the inmates to stage a revolt against the institutional rule while becoming their savior figure he still comes off emphatically if you frame him more like his character fighting against the rules and structures of arkham and helping inmates who have been told by oppressive society they’re crazy to embrace their true nature. Then the movie ends with us thinking he’s been killed or martyred for the other inmates but he goes on to become the clown prince of crime. At least it would have been a more satisfying ending.
That would have been a cool movie and an interesting arc for the character.
Unfortunately the studio couldn't have that because they're allergic to well written characters nowadays
@@spaghettimkay5795 i dont blame the studio the director had free reign and he decided to undue the first movie instead
@eskanda3434 Subverting expectations is the new trend in Hollywood. It is more important than the story.....or even the acting.
That would've been too easy and predictable of a storyline...I mean look what you wrote😂😂😂
Joker 2= the jokes on you!
I would like to add him being the catalyst for the villians to band together and take on the city like how usually it's batman that creates the villains but this time it's joker in arkham inspiring and rallying them,like poison ivy and such
I went to a theater to see this it was fucking empty me and my cousin laughed our ass off at how bad it was it left us mind fucked by the time we left we had to watch road house to get that abomination out of our heads never thought they could make something so fucking horrible this shit had me collecting the last of my braincells off the floor the whole ride back i actually cried that night thinking of how good it actually could've been fml never watch this damned movie
@@Jesusiskingfrtho 😆
You should have watched the reviews before going out to the movies that's what I always do. That movie sucked!
@@RealRayevens666akadevildogg we went on purpose to make fun of it lol
I knew it was bad after coming across videos about it. So I made sure my grandpa doesn't choose this film and instead a Jackie Chan masterpiece. Ironic how a film starring a Hong Kong star is at least more enjoyable than DC's hot garbage nowadays.
It’s not that serious
We dont talk about the movie that never existed, known as Joker 2
The potential the first Joker movie left for a sequel and it was ruined immediately lol
Now i know how the boys felt in that indiana jones south park episode
I think they have set the record for the deepest fall a fictive character has ever fallen
I agree with butters still good movie
I doubt anyone thought joker 2 would’ve just been scenes from the 1st one..
"This city deserves a
better class of criminals"
Lady gaga don’t look gd as harley quinn at all tbh
bc she looks masculine without makeup and she isn’t even dressed in any way that resembles harley quinn
She can't act. It's time that someone admits that the woman can't act for shit. Great singer, but she doesn't have the gift of acting.
Thought it was really good. It was an arthouse film, like the first. It only has a sheen of superheroes comic over it. People didn't understood it. Surprising, after the fact the first Joker was exactly the same, minus the musical aspect. Which in any case, Joker 2 can barely be considered a musical.
Bagels better, go eat a bagel, take your mind off the movie
I could really go for a bagel right now
Bagels? You get what you f**king deserve
Its a canon event
Why did they think a musical was what people wanted? Leave that kind of thing to Broadway
I wanted a Joker in the asylum with Harley manipulating her with love and both them escaping and reuniting with the clown posse turning them into a gang. Instead we got lady googoogaga trying to show her talent that faded since the 2000s
Exactly
because the director said that the 1st movie was "liked by the wrong people" thats why he made the 2nd one a musical , to course correct it and get rid of all the r1ght wing3rs in the fanbase 😂😂
One of the greatest movies turned into a musical 😂😂😂😂
Movie was T R A S H
Ive gone a good while without seeing any footage from this movie
Same, RIP us. Time to go watch the whole thing and cringe.
And Gaga thinks she deserves an Oscar and a Grammy 😂
Joker: best movie ever
Joker2: wtf is even that?!
best movie ever? Yikes
The first joker was good but not that good
Best movie? You're reaching nowhere, mate. It's good but never great. It becomes a phenomenon just due to how many media want to shut it down but failed. That's literally it.
They both sucked
Grow up kid
Just imagine if the inspired movie for the sequel was Scarface or goodfellas.
Imagine making a Goodfellas sequel and making it a musical.
@@PaulRidgeway-h7l “bang bang he shot me down”
@@BUDDYLEROY Janet Rossi - shes a whore
Janet Rossi - won’t see her no more
Janet Rossi - hey mr landlord
Janet Rossi - get your own man!
Imagine taxi driver gets a sequel
People are gonna hate me for saying this but the movie is actually really good if you you look at it from a psychiatric perspective
Exactly. People wanted JOKER. They got arthur....they are angry, the same way Lee got angry and left when arthur said there is no Joker.
Youre so dumb
just because that's what happened in the plot doesn't make it any less pretentious and stupid.
@@TheNeverists666 it predicted exactly what was going to happen and played with the morality of being a Joker fan. In how far is that stupid?
@@casinodertoten721 Because it resulted in a shit movie
@@casinodertoten721 It isn't stupid to predict that people won't like what you do with a character. Its very easy to predict that people won't be happy if you tell them the joker in your joker film isn't actually the joker also insulting your audience in and of itself is pretentious as hell.
The film thinks its smarter than its audience, but it isn't.
Also the ending is absolutely laughable.
yes i get it "the Joker is an idea" but its still ham-fisted overdone and rubbish.
The problem with Phillips is that he is someone who isn't particularly bright who thinks he is an intellectual. There is nothing clever about Joker 2, nor was there anything original with the first film, it was a poor man's taxi driver in clown make up, with none of the nuance or complexity of that film.
When I first watched joker in theaters I fell asleep..
The first one?
The first ones good but if you have no taste in cinema then good for you
@@TheCrazyGuy2002 bruh stfu that shit was so plain and boring it wasn’t entertaining at all. If u think that was taste then you’re lame like the fucking movie 🤣
@@TheCrazyGuy2002 bro obviously you got no taste bc that movie was so plain and boring! Lmao it’s sad that you think it’s entertaining
Now, just imagine if they actually made a good joker movie
I didn't even have to see the movie itself to know that it was going to be a disappointment.
As soon as I heard that it was going to be a musical...I knew.
Third and also if the director named Todd Phillips did say most of the movie was Arthur Fleck dreams then he shouldn’t said it was Arthur Fleck complex dream and nightmare. That would save the movie sequel in my opinion.
Why does he walk like an online gta 5 character 😂😂😂
Seemed more true to his character than becoming Supervillain Joker or even crime boss
Everything Joaquin phoenix touches at the moment turns to poop 😂
it’s not his fault
It literally is his fault lol he said the musical shit came to him in a dream
@@froyocrew oh my bad I didn’t know that. I just assumed the writers decided that and he acted it.
@@haze_ns it's basically 100% on him and Todd Philips lol
They’ve done lost their damn mind. I never thought thought that I’d ever walk out of a joker movie. Bs was hard to see ngl 💀
This was the funniest thing I saw all day 😂😂😂😂😂❤
Like the rock would say "It's the biggest piece of dog sht"😂
He should know. He's the worst actor alive. Him and his little baby, Kevin Hart. 2 idiots
Literally the movie made its point. Y’all are only interested in what you think Joker is, not in what Arthur Fleck was or what actually happened to him to make him like that- you like hearing about all the reckless, careless sabotage, and the monologues and jokes, but not the musicals and the dancing which was what Fleck held dear. And so just like everyone else, you’ll leave him. Maybe even go out of your way to kill him out of spite for him taking away “your” character.
This is a very romanticized overdramatic take. There’s a concept in story telling call Occam’s razor “if it has no point to the story then DON’T tell it” and that can apply to this aswell not that it has no meaning in the story but that this movie wasn’t anything anyone wanted to see. What’s the point of making a message in the movie if nobody is recommending it. Even if that WAS the point of joker 2 you don’t think there is a better way of telling that story? So if you’re gonna make a movie that is in foreign territory why the joker?
Dude!!! That guy name lady Gaga ruined it
never cook again
Joker actually robbed ourr money with this one😭😭
I can't believe how they f....d this up after that setup.....
They decided to go woke....I mean soft
I just think some lonely guys wanna live vicariously through a fictional character because they themselves feel powerless. Ultimately I didn’t care too much abt this stuff.
Gonna put this movie into my "does not exist" drawer, right next to the last airbender.
I can't even believe people had any hope for it after the first trailer
This is why you don’t have lady Gaga in any movie….
Star is born is a banger
That's a hurtful thing to say
If 100 ppl are in a room and 99 don't believe in ya...
You do realise she made the movie better, not worse right? It wasn’t her decision to make the movie a musical…
Movie was dead as soon as she hopped in
The first movie speaks about metal instability.
The second movie actually gives you one.
Truly a movie of our times ladies and gentlemen!
Bruv what the heck whoever thought it should’ve been a musical should’ve fired.
Seriously, joker 2 should’ve been where Arthur officially became the clown prince of crime and he was slowly taking Gotham by storm with his new girlfriend Harley Quinn
arthur fleck was never going to be the clown prince of crime. this is not a comic-accurate joker, it's a realistic one portraying a severely mentally ill man
Harley Quinn should have been a crazy woman who was obsessed with Arthur. At first, there only connection would be through prison letters.
@@cerventissIt was a wanna be clever meta retcon. It never works. Ask Rian Johnson.
Joker the clown prince of crime doesn't have an origin story did you even watch Batman the dark knight?
@@conastycorleone5261 Which also isn‘t really true. Cause everybody has one. Plus The Dark Knight is just one of many incarnations of this character. He does have a shown origin story in quite many comics. Killing Joke is one of them.
I knew lady flapjacks would be a kiss of the death.
I’m convinced the studios wanted this film to tank. Didn’t like being associated with a movie beloved by i’ncels’ (and everyone else for that matter)
I never saw the first one, what do you mean loved by incels?
@@murkyturkey5238 bro joker is an i'nc3l icon , is this your first day on the internet?
All they needed was a dark knight touch to the second movie but wtv. I didnt like the first one, but kinda had hopes for the second with more action, and maybe batman appearence
You’re the epitome of anyone who didn’t like the movie. The poster child. It’s not a damn comic book. You just weren’t ready for an adult movie
Arthur wasn't a mastermind, anarchic leader....
They just promote Lady Gaga
Meanwhile it's like her second movie in over 5 years and she's still relevant after over 15 years of singing😂😂seems like she's just talented
@@lm6827if she was talented this movie wouldn't have sucked.
Talented the bitch wears meat as a dress talking about talented the only thing with talent on the hoe is her nose kick bricks bro take that shit else where
@@wardy4903if they removed lady Gaga from this movie it would go from a 3/10 to a 2/10. Not her fault the plot was just ass.
You Can sing! WE GET IT!
If the word 'pretentious' was a movie...
A clear message to the audience saying “you watch what we want you to watch and you like what we say yo like”.
Let this be an opportunity of discernment of what you consume, what you give your energy to. Remember that your energy is the model precious currency in the entire universe.
I'll never spend money on a movie, again, without listening to the reviews
That's why demons will say they are aliens
Ahhh the Ryan Johnson directing technique!
Bro it's over 😂
@@Alexis-zp7ku I'm not your bro, guy.
I'm not your guy, bro.
@@crazymage9636your not that guy pal trust me
@@vincent-lm8sv I'm not your pal, buddy
musical was perfect we finally get to see why my nigga be dancing
This is what happens when the director is pushed to make a sequel he never wanted to make. He becomes the Joker, playing the trick on us. 😂😂
He isn't pushed to do anything. He can simply say no. But he wanted that money
Bs
Look at when the joker came out. Then look when the BLM riots/protests took place. After I saw this I called it. Easy to see the brainwashing once you're privy. Ive not seen this cause I know it's just more programing. They don't care about fandom. They are using this movie to brainwash people into rooting for evil and sympathetic towards evil people in their evil. Music makes it far easier to brainwash people then just flash imagery thankfully nobody cared or liked it so the effects will be minimal. Something big is coming folks. Read a few chapters of behold a pale horse and learn a thing or two about the powers that be. The silent war. You name it. You are being deceived by the world government. Whoever doesn't comfort to the federal banking system the UN the trilateral commission the wef the who the bank of England the Vatican, illuminated ones aka luciferins all bas
I actually thiught tht was the sequel they were making
Lady gaga over here looking like she was receiving some well enjoyed back shots 😭🤣🤣
You gotta love a film whose audience literally proves the film's point
And what point is that, explain it
🗣️🎙️explain it 🧙
What happens when the role you take up fully overcomes the person underneath and the only thing they are interested in seeing is Joker. Playing the role for others until it's too much to bare throwing it away and die because it, no one will ever care for Arthur Fleck but there will always be a Joker that is his tragedy.
@@1ittlegsexplain the point
Lame@@1ittlegs
the real joker is born in the end , this movie is not what we all wanted , but in my mind it makes sense a joker personality should be even in a bipolar disorder , needs to be overly sided to the bad side .. the clown is dead and now the psycho is born with his devil smile ...
The story continues
Nah
No, sorry the story is continuing. The?
Joker story is not continuing
Nobody sees that the musical aspect was supposed to be a glimpse into how their minds worked, vs what their reality was. I dont know what people expected; i thought it was good.
Then write a movie like that without the joker gimmick.
@@PhysictsdrumtooWould the general audience had cared to see that? Probably not.
And I thought the Letto version was bad…
Lady Gagas face should never be any closer than 20 feet to a camera.
The betrayal 😭😭🥲
Probably Gaga demanded a musical so she can also sell Harlequin
*he
wrong, people in the comments saying that the film's director and Joaquim decided on the idea of it being a musical .
Movie goers when they get the slop they want: mm yummy more slop pls
When their expectations are challenged: wait this isnt the slop I ordered
Movie still has to be good though paL
You can subvert expectations and still have a good result. A Clockwork Orange, The One That Flew Over the Cookoo House. This is not one of those examples though
I would’ve loved a movie about just Arthur being an absolute boss with his newfound thugs
this movie was brilliant actually. Completely inspired by Lars Von Trier dancer in the dark. Lots of creative choices meant to screw you up with the contrast of what’s really happening
With all due respect, your comment is idiotic