The funny part is, the original patents for the QX1 refer to it as a lens cap camera, and The rest of the QX series (all fixed lens) were referred to as "lens style cameras".
They already did it, well, sort of. Look up ILX-LR1 camera, a full frame "sensor only" camera intended for professional use, being most prominent to be mounted on a drone.
@@eccojedi Sensor size, the ability to use proper lenses. Meanwhile phones and tablets have connectivity, pretty beefy processors and proper software. When traveling or for influencers this would be just the perfect combination, instead of a big heavy camera, just take a small sensor lens thingy. All the rest can be done on the mobile device.
@@tillorrly1128 of course there’s tons of reasons to use it… but most of them are better served not attached physically to a handset, which ironically enough it could do pretty well within a certain proximity! I wanted one and never got around to buying it.
I was thinking the same thing, I wonder it that was the idea here, would save a good chunk of weight on a star tracker for sure. Including the flash feels pretty funny for any application so I am betting an executive insisted on it.
@@ladylamellaesnappiness made a full video about it and yea the phone experience is ehhh (based on some other reviews though looks like it depends on your phone, android works best since u can use nfc to pair) but they also sell little screens that connect wirelessly to them that seem to have less delay due to being purpose built for sony cameras. could be really nice for Astrophotography but the settings in the app seem too barebone to make it really feasible (though ive heard there are modded versions of the sony app that allow u to get more camera settings usually meant for other cameras so-)
I'm actually active user of Sony QX1, currently paired it with a 16-50 kit. What I love with this camera is the ability to take picture from many interesting perspectives utilizing your smartphone.
@cpl366 You may use this camera with Image Edge Mobile apps on smartphone. It pairs quite well with QX1 and I think Sony is still updating the apps to ensure the camera works on today's phone.
I still regret to this day not getting this camera almost a decade ago. Such a cool concept and still potentially better than any smartphone camera today.
@@fall3n87I had the camera. Decided to sell it 2 years ago. The sensor is too noisy. I recommend Sony a6000 instead. Also, it's video( qx1) was very poor
Literally pointless in this day and age. Sony and Xiaomi are putting 1 inch sensors in phones, a whole dedicted camera for the same thing just isnt sought after anymore. Realistically cameras are getting less and less popular as phones advance, so even MFT these days is becoming obsolete. APSC or FF are the only ones that are gonna remain sought after in mostly pro work.
@@Omgiamsotriggeredэто так называемый "видиконовский дюйм" . Он гораздо меньше. Оптически смартфон не способен в данных размера охватить полностью большой сенсор. Только в размерах сильно отличающихся от компактности. Фотокамера - это все же специализированная система. Но для обычных потребителей смартфон всегда будет приемлемой - и понятней, а они диктуют рынок. Качеством картинки он обязан прежде всего , электронной и нейронной обработкой "на лету" . Но как правило , такая обработка бросается в глаза на мониторе. А продвинутым любителям и профи как раз была бы интересна подобная карманная камера .
@@OmgiamsotriggeredSmartphones are never going to have a good lens... Not to mention Sony phone had cropped sensor, so it did not use whole surface area of it.
i like the pentax q7,it could be the best camera for traveling,tiny but with nice looking body and removable lenses,that outperforms most of the modern smartphone camera.
Tell me more! I'm an Olympus Air owner (tons of fun, only m43 body I've held onto after switching to Sony) - I'd love to hear more detail about how practical the QX1 is as a shooting experience now with app support questionable. My gut is that an ultracompact MILC body (GM1 - a5000) is just a better overall package than the "displayless cylinder" family.
I had the camera but sold it two years ago. Compared to Sony a6000 which I still kept (had both at the same time): 1. QX1 has a noisy sensor especially iso 800 2. It's video capability was poor...some weird color noise especially during low light. 3. Apart from the wow factor, everything else is better on a6000. I can operate A6000 with my phone too.
I used to own a QX1, and usually use it without connecting to the phone. Just like shooting it blind and always nice to see some interesting unexpected results. Such a shame they didn't make a gen 2 of the camera.
Closest equivalent today would be the Blackmagic Micro Studio Camera, although that is video focused and lacks the smartphone integration. I think a modern version of this, perhaps with a fixed prime lens like the X100VI, could do rather well given the way the consumer photography market is going...
The Sony QX 1 would be a really good camera for high quality hidden cameras in reality TV shows as in that case it would be externally recording to another device while it could also work really well as a high quality drone mounted camera! :)
Literally the size of a Nikon FTZ, can't believe it has a flash! This looks like the kind of thing used in movie shoots where you'd expect a go-pro on a lesser production, inside crashing cars etc
That's hilarious that, of all things, they decided to include a flash! I can only guess the reason they put that in was for some sort of industrial imaging purpose. E.g. manufacturers might be using this camera to perform automated QA on a factory line. Edit: nvm looks like this is meant to mount on the back of a smart phone. That's actually a pretty smart idea.
Bad user experience, mainly viewfinder lag, which can either be blamed either on Sony's app, or phone hardware at the time (2014) The 2nd problem was that it launched at $400 without lens, while Sony's equivalent proper camera, Sony a5000 cost $450 with lens included, most people just did not understand who this camera was for.
amazing this is from 10 years ago and not reiterated or replicated. this would have been more popular if stand-alone with screen and just add a strap for secure grip like those consumer camcorders
THeres also the olympus air, and Yongnuo also made their own camera like this as well for demo once not sure if it ever made it to production though. Alice AI is working on a similar concept 2024
I would love to have one of those but due to how little got sold, people jack up the price like crazy, its even above the MSRP. Its a very torn down a5000 and that can be bought for 200 bucks used with lenses
I feel like video-focused cameras with this form factor make sense. Stuff like the Blackmagic Micro Studio Camera, where you want to mount it on a gimbal or at the end of a boom, so size and weight being minimized is a high priority. But a photo camera with a pop-up flash? Yikes. One big advantage of a camera over a phone is ergonomics, so giving up the user experience benefits, and forcing someone to use a phone app just seems like a mistake. And considering that this and the Olympus Air died, it was a mistake.
the sony XQ1 came out in 2014, but you had to use yoàur smartphone to control it, with an attachement on the back of the cam. The goal was to turn your phone into an actual camera, but it wasn't really reliable
Now put a 70-200mm f2.8 on it and see how practical it is. Size isn't everything. Usability counts more. And to those that say I just don't get it, after putting a lens on it and attaching a smartphone to it, It is not any smaller than any other compact cameras - Just more useless. The QX1 is from 2014 and they don't make them anymore. Wonder why.
Why they include that flash d not amek it even smaller or include some more essential goodies or the flash is needed or useful in this camera's use cases?
please tell me how in the world you even managed to get one... it was apparently released at under $300?? but i only see a single one on ebay for over $800...
i love that they included the flash
Who uses a flash like that anyway? You will probably even see the shadow cast by the lens in the picture, except for tiny pancake lenses.
That tiny flash popping out of what looks like a lens cap is hilarious.
Yeah, I laughed at that too.
I like it when companies take the risk to innovate!😍
It's because these companies can afford it, realistically speaking.
And fail and lose support
@@risue08 Yeah, but not all of them take a risk, like Apple for example.
@@lidge1994Apple lets everyone else take the risk first, then comes in a Sherlock’s them
@@risue08 sony can afford it
next we'll have the game "is it a camera or just a lens cap?"
The funny part is, the original patents for the QX1 refer to it as a lens cap camera, and The rest of the QX series (all fixed lens) were referred to as "lens style cameras".
Haha, like "is it a cake or not?" or like spelling words.
I'd love to see them release a new version of this but with a full-frame 4K sensor.
They already did it, well, sort of. Look up ILX-LR1 camera, a full frame "sensor only" camera intended for professional use, being most prominent to be mounted on a drone.
@@snippingtool7810 that's a lot bigger... and it doesn't even have a battery like this one does
QX1 wasn't a standalone camera though. It was promoted as a smartphone mounted camera which connected with phone for using it.
Which was a frigging amazing idea. To bad they let it die.
Which was a marketing failure since it worked better as a high quality remote camera head. We already have cameras on our phones.
@@eccojedi Sensor size, the ability to use proper lenses.
Meanwhile phones and tablets have connectivity, pretty beefy processors and proper software.
When traveling or for influencers this would be just the perfect combination, instead of a big heavy camera, just take a small sensor lens thingy. All the rest can be done on the mobile device.
@@tillorrly1128 of course there’s tons of reasons to use it… but most of them are better served not attached physically to a handset, which ironically enough it could do pretty well within a certain proximity! I wanted one and never got around to buying it.
I was not expecting that flash thing 😂😂😂
Looks like one of those astrophotography cameras
I was thinking the same thing, I wonder it that was the idea here, would save a good chunk of weight on a star tracker for sure. Including the flash feels pretty funny for any application so I am betting an executive insisted on it.
Just looked it up apparently you slap it on the back of your phone. Kinda goofy ngl, I bet the lag is super annoying to shoot with.
@@ladylamellaesnappiness made a full video about it and yea the phone experience is ehhh (based on some other reviews though looks like it depends on your phone, android works best since u can use nfc to pair) but they also sell little screens that connect wirelessly to them that seem to have less delay due to being purpose built for sony cameras. could be really nice for Astrophotography but the settings in the app seem too barebone to make it really feasible (though ive heard there are modded versions of the sony app that allow u to get more camera settings usually meant for other cameras so-)
I have to admit... That flash bit got me!
Xh1 + Battery grip looks CLEAN !
I'm actually active user of Sony QX1, currently paired it with a 16-50 kit. What I love with this camera is the ability to take picture from many interesting perspectives utilizing your smartphone.
Does it require an app (Sony or otherwise) on your phone to work?
@cpl366 You may use this camera with Image Edge Mobile apps on smartphone. It pairs quite well with QX1 and I think Sony is still updating the apps to ensure the camera works on today's phone.
I still regret to this day not getting this camera almost a decade ago. Such a cool concept and still potentially better than any smartphone camera today.
@@fall3n87I had the camera. Decided to sell it 2 years ago. The sensor is too noisy. I recommend Sony a6000 instead. Also, it's video( qx1) was very poor
Is the display lag noticable? I assumed it would be super annoying but curious to hear from an actual user.
Still rocking this one after almost nine years. If only Sony updated their software.
I’m still waiting for Pentax to release a Q with a 1 inch sensor. Yeah I know they discontinued the line, but one can hope.
Literally pointless in this day and age. Sony and Xiaomi are putting 1 inch sensors in phones, a whole dedicted camera for the same thing just isnt sought after anymore. Realistically cameras are getting less and less popular as phones advance, so even MFT these days is becoming obsolete. APSC or FF are the only ones that are gonna remain sought after in mostly pro work.
@@Omgiamsotriggeredэто так называемый "видиконовский дюйм" . Он гораздо меньше. Оптически смартфон не способен в данных размера охватить полностью большой сенсор. Только в размерах сильно отличающихся от компактности. Фотокамера - это все же специализированная система. Но для обычных потребителей смартфон всегда будет приемлемой - и понятней, а они диктуют рынок. Качеством картинки он обязан прежде всего , электронной и нейронной обработкой "на лету" . Но как правило , такая обработка бросается в глаза на мониторе. А продвинутым любителям и профи как раз была бы интересна подобная карманная камера .
@@OmgiamsotriggeredSmartphones are never going to have a good lens... Not to mention Sony phone had cropped sensor, so it did not use whole surface area of it.
The flash killed me 😂😂😂😂
It flashed you 😂
Have the 100. Such a fun toy.
We need a full video!
With that little flash it looks like one of those robots from the pixar movies.
The CEOs son was like, “okay, but I get make one decision and it has to stay”
i like the pentax q7,it could be the best camera for traveling,tiny but with nice looking body and removable lenses,that outperforms most of the modern smartphone camera.
Sony probably included the flash for the memes😂
The back looks like it is just a part of something else.
the back is for mounting a phone to it as a screen
I hope they'll do a full frame one
At that point it's basically an astrophotography camera 😂
Pair this with a 20mm pancake and you have the perfect street camera
This is the ultimate minimalist camera I’ve been looking for. Where can I get one
only Ebay, or other sites which sell 2nd hand
these cameras were discontinued a long time ago
Tell me more! I'm an Olympus Air owner (tons of fun, only m43 body I've held onto after switching to Sony) - I'd love to hear more detail about how practical the QX1 is as a shooting experience now with app support questionable. My gut is that an ultracompact MILC body (GM1 - a5000) is just a better overall package than the "displayless cylinder" family.
what a weird camera. is the air still usable these days? seems like so many app-dependent things end up unsupported and useless.
I had the camera but sold it two years ago. Compared to Sony a6000 which I still kept (had both at the same time):
1. QX1 has a noisy sensor especially iso 800
2. It's video capability was poor...some weird color noise especially during low light.
3. Apart from the wow factor, everything else is better on a6000. I can operate
A6000 with my phone too.
Its a tragedy that its discontinued
I used to own a QX1, and usually use it without connecting to the phone. Just like shooting it blind and always nice to see some interesting unexpected results. Such a shame they didn't make a gen 2 of the camera.
That’s pretty smart. I use a QX10 for use on a 10m pole to take remote images where drones aren’t allowed
Closest equivalent today would be the Blackmagic Micro Studio Camera, although that is video focused and lacks the smartphone integration. I think a modern version of this, perhaps with a fixed prime lens like the X100VI, could do rather well given the way the consumer photography market is going...
At least they kept it as e-mount
If you can external control from smartphone, it is pretty game changing.
I just picked up a QX1. It’s so much fun.
Man have just discovered astrocameras
The Sony QX 1 would be a really good camera for high quality hidden cameras in reality TV shows as in that case it would be externally recording to another device while it could also work really well as a high quality drone mounted camera! :)
Literally the size of a Nikon FTZ, can't believe it has a flash! This looks like the kind of thing used in movie shoots where you'd expect a go-pro on a lesser production, inside crashing cars etc
That's hilarious that, of all things, they decided to include a flash! I can only guess the reason they put that in was for some sort of industrial imaging purpose. E.g. manufacturers might be using this camera to perform automated QA on a factory line.
Edit: nvm looks like this is meant to mount on the back of a smart phone. That's actually a pretty smart idea.
That would be an incredible fpv camera for smaller drones(like 7-10in)
It's a perfect "Despicable Me" minion cam! 😂
The qx1 was an amazing idea, and I really don't get why it didn't take off, even with prosumers.
Bad user experience, mainly viewfinder lag, which can either be blamed either on Sony's app, or phone hardware at the time (2014)
The 2nd problem was that it launched at $400 without lens, while Sony's equivalent proper camera, Sony a5000 cost $450 with lens included,
most people just did not understand who this camera was for.
sony qx1 was ahead of it's time, Even today if it launches it would be good companion for vloggers !
Sony needs to bring this back.
Actually that's a good design if its modular and you can fit a grip and screen if you want to.
This camera remember me the logitech camera which was presented few months ago.
Can't wait until Apple adds this to the next iPhone
amazing this is from 10 years ago and not reiterated or replicated. this would have been more popular if stand-alone with screen and just add a strap for secure grip like those consumer camcorders
I had the qx-10 and love it. Suddly I sell it.
I miss the NEX days, Sony had stuff like this, camcorders using E-Mount but they killed off and consolidated it all sadly.
THeres also the olympus air, and Yongnuo also made their own camera like this as well for demo once not sure if it ever made it to production though. Alice AI is working on a similar concept 2024
Bruh that flash pop up genienely made me 😮 😂out of no where
so wait you can just walk around with a camera the size of just a lens 😂😂
I would love to have one of those but due to how little got sold, people jack up the price like crazy, its even above the MSRP. Its a very torn down a5000 and that can be bought for 200 bucks used with lenses
Why is there a flash 💀?
Why not?
Because it's better than using the one on your phone. The Sony QX series are for mounting to your phone.
I feel like video-focused cameras with this form factor make sense. Stuff like the Blackmagic Micro Studio Camera, where you want to mount it on a gimbal or at the end of a boom, so size and weight being minimized is a high priority.
But a photo camera with a pop-up flash? Yikes. One big advantage of a camera over a phone is ergonomics, so giving up the user experience benefits, and forcing someone to use a phone app just seems like a mistake. And considering that this and the Olympus Air died, it was a mistake.
Not as small as the QX1, but the Sigma FP is quite small for a full-function professional camera
Oh but you do have a flash, thanks for this I for one didn't know :)
the sony XQ1 came out in 2014, but you had to use yoàur smartphone to control it, with an attachement on the back of the cam. The goal was to turn your phone into an actual camera, but it wasn't really reliable
Wish sony made a M43 camera like that.
I wonder if this camera can be operated without smartphone. It'll be cool for this to be mounted on a drone considering the size.
Reminds me of Bag, the one-eyed alien, in My Stepmother Is An Alien 😅
I also have a xh1
Absolutely love it
The true mega compact
They can make one fit in inside a smartphone
no viewfinder but a flash is included is bonkers
Now that is an actual POV camera🤣🤣🤣
I wanted one of these so bad, or the olympus air.
It can be size of your thumb pretty much
Wish canon made something like this. I was thinking bout buying then I realize I have no Sony lenses
Could be fun to adapt lenses to
@@cf8979 still money lmao
I've seen bigger teleconverters, kinda want one though...
Now put a 70-200mm f2.8 on it and see how practical it is. Size isn't everything. Usability counts more.
And to those that say I just don't get it, after putting a lens on it and attaching a smartphone to it, It is not any smaller than any other compact cameras - Just more useless.
The QX1 is from 2014 and they don't make them anymore. Wonder why.
Love my Q7
“But u do have a flash” hahaahahah😂
imagine industrial cameras ...
the camera should be large, grippy and heavy
Q7 so much fun
If this consider a mirrorless camera, than my iPod touch is also a small mirrorless camera
Look into dedicated astronomy cameras if you want to see what small looks like.
.. me when i look into my undies... 😢
Camera attached to a lens
Olympus Air?
Slightly bigger, iirc, and a smaller micro 4/3rds sensor.
But that with the 20mm pancake is a sweet package.
Sony QX1?!? 😮
the flash lmao
Technical your phone camera is also a mirrorless camera 💀 Gopro too 🤔
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I think it's be Olympus air a01
I have eaten a pineapple today.
The zv1 I have is tiny n it’s a micro 4/3rds
Ok now get rid of the useless flash and give me a normal HDMI instead
Why they include that flash d not amek it even smaller or include some more essential goodies or the flash is needed or useful in this camera's use cases?
…and it was a total flop (also the alpha range wasn't that large and didn't compromise for being usable without a phone)
Best small mirroless camera is Olympus air.
i have a really small mirrorless camera in my phone
it's not actually a bad idea if you use one of the sony phones as the display.
raspberry pi hq camera + pi zero 2
The software is horrible and hard to do raw. But it's super compact to display for an smartphone.
i mean... webcams are mirrorless cameras too
sadly there is no qx2
Hasselblad
please tell me how in the world you even managed to get one... it was apparently released at under $300?? but i only see a single one on ebay for over $800...
What about my phone, its a pretty small mirrorless camera
My iPhone is a mirrored camera
What about the sigma FP smallest FF ;)