He has. Have you not seen some of these Nikes? No tech, stiff strobeboards instead of shanks. At least And1's pro models have shanks and perform as good, if not better than Nikes budget models.
My absolute favourite hoop shoe reviewer, every video is a must watch. As someone that works in a sports store that sells a few of these shoes that you review, the information you provide in these videos makes me feel a whole lot more confident selling these shoes as well! G.O.A.T.
Way of Wade/ Li-Ling and 361 has been killing it! Just ordered my Quick Pro thanks to you and other reviewers. I wanted something lightweight, great traction, responsive cushion and great support. Checked all of my boxes. Very much gratitude to you and your content on protecting everyone’s feet at the end of the sessions ❤!
So glad to see how this channel keeps on improving and improving. Congrats on the studio doc! Ill still be here when the time your channel gets really really big.
I've been suffering so much pain on my feet for many years. Now, because of watching your videos, it really helped me a lot on choosing a better shoe for my feet.
been waiting for this review for forever it seems like !! but as always, the most reliable reviewer out there and did not disappoint. very torn between these or the 808 4’s…
I was shocked to see the midsole teardown. No top loaded shank like previous models. They probably felt the shoe had enough support features to avoid sacrificing comfort. And what the hell is up with the upgraded rubber? Testers saying the new traction/rubber compound is probably the best ever. Li-Ning/WOW is consistently improving their models year over year.
This shoe seems to me will be a budget WoW 11 for me. That shoe, while extremely good is just not affordable so I think I'll just stick to these. And again awesome review as always doc! It's very rare nowadays to come across these kinds of thorough and comprehensive shoe review that also backs hard science behind them in one short video. To me it's just highly commendable and I very much appreciate your hardwork. 👍👍👍
Just some feedback @FootDoctorZach: I love the rating system at the end of the video, however the suggested videos from youtube covers half of the info.
Kinda glad that u said these were like the 11, since I already got the 11 and was raring to buy these while my money's at 0. Especially since it's hard being a med intern with no money smh ._.
Brandblack did something similar with the Rare Metals by not only extending the tongue but also the eyelets up the front of your ankle while keeping the low-top feel in the back and lockdown is great on those models 💪
seems you added more lights ! so much clearer...thanks for another amazing review...im waiting for some adidas basketball shoes....still running the Dame 8s
If they used breathable panels like that on Jordan retro’s, and used a more comfortable foam, it would be such a game changer! But they have to do it in a way, that they still look like OG’s. Just change inner foot panels, and tongues!
I have the all city 12's and love them. (thanks for the recommendation) I use them for pickleball. Love the cushion and responsiveness. I have a narrow foot and the all city 12 fit perfectly. the outsole wore out in one outdoor season but my fellow players sometimes go through 2 shoes in a season. Are the all city encore's still narrow and can you use them on outdoor courts?
Again, they decided not to make half sizes, which I'l never understand. I've noticed, whenever WOW makes bigger half-sizes... they sell out first because people want their true size. Really having trouble purchasing these knowing I'm going to either have to go down a half size or up a half size.
@@trydodis690 I buy off of Way of Wade. They’ll make a limited run of half sizes sometimes. Didn’t have them for the all city 11, had two colorways of the 12’s, which once I got my size, became my favorite shoe to hoop in.
Noticed that the material used for the top portion of the toes varies depending on the colorway. Green is mesh, Pink is suede, and the rest are a leather material. Do you know how the breathability and weight differs for each material? I got the green one because I still liked the colours and feel mesh would be the best for both. It was also the one tested in this video
Love your vids man, big fan from the Philippines! Long question ahead but I just wanted to ask, how many hours of hooping does it usually take for you to consider that the shoe is fully broken in? Asking because I just got these in the blue colorway, I've played in them for about 2 hours and I'm experiencing the stiffness around the first lace eyelet that you talked about in this video. Would that stiff feeling eventually go away? Thanks in advance for your response!! 1:58
So the WoW 12 Encore is even better than the WoW AC 12. I thought the AC12’s were good already. Can’t wait to try the Encore. My only concern is the tall tongue.
I bought a pair All City 12 Encores and the outside of the shoe ripped away from the sole within 2 weeks of wearing them. This is the 2nd pair of Way of Wade’s that I have owned that have ripped after limited use.
@FootDoctorZach, given the score comparison WOW All City 12 (37.5) and WOW All City 12 Encore (37), the originals are better. But from your enthusiasm, it would seem like the Encores are better. Can you clarify?
Interesting…gonna rewatch the WearTesters review on the 12 Encore, because I feel like Chris said similar things about the Jordan 39 compared to this shoe. Either way, I think I’m sold getting the 12 Encore at some point.
I got the shoes half size up and they are still pretty tight but biggest issue for me is my left foot arch is getting scratched by something and after one time of playing i got a blisterz
When you are wearing the shoe do you feel the big heel thing or just it just feel like its not there? I like everything else bout the shoe just dont know if that will annoy me or feel really weird
I’m not sure if you’re still looking but I’ve USED both and the grip on dusty courts on the encores is way better. you have wipe way less. but it has a weird fit and hurts more. both are quite breathable but the encores are better overall
It is to be honest, and the normal AC 12 is easily the best outdoor shoe. Li Ning/WOW has been killing the hoop shoe game lately. Price, quality, durability, comfort, and even support. It’s highly impressive the products they’re putting out with consistency and striking color-ways.
@@jeromel4563 Don’t worry, they will sort that out in the next few years. They sell allot in the US that’s why they are prioritizing sales there and in China.
@@jeromel4563 Yeah that’s allot for sure. I think it’s worth the money though because if the durability you’re getting. So if you want a quality shoe it’s worth saving up. But I expect them to be worldwide in the next two years, Nike has been on a massive decline as of late.
Zach, is it normal that my big toe is always getting hit on hard movements? Would a very snug fit or a larger fit be better to circumvent that issue? Or is it a common problem with basketball players
I just got those from overseas work travel to China, usually I'm 11.5 US at almost any Jordan's. I got a 12 US and fits very similar. Half a size more was perfect for me.
I have been watching a ton of your videos lately and I have narrowed my choice down to the 12 Encore or the Curry 12s. My foot is flat and I usually wear a 12 normal or 11.5 wide. In tighter shoes my the bottom of my foot feels like its burning but I am using the Lebron Witness 7s and they are super comfortable but they might be the most unstable thing I have ever used. Could you recommend either of these 2
as a vball player that suffer from shin splints and needs max cushion/shock absorb. What is better, these or gt hustle 3, or if you have any other recommendation I will be so much grateful.
Studio build video: ruclips.net/video/M77Hlh5njjA/видео.html
Yo doc make a video on safe shoes for teens that can help them dunk my kid is struggling tryna find something like that without hurting his feet 😅
I want a foam based shoe 😊
I want no plastic on mine😊
I want more on foam base state😊
I like the shoe😊
humbly said: you're the greatest at what you do beyond comparisons.
I appreciate you
Do a Walmart basketball shoe so we can see how they compare to more expensive ones
He has. Have you not seen some of these Nikes? No tech, stiff strobeboards instead of shanks. At least And1's pro models have shanks and perform as good, if not better than Nikes budget models.
@@MillzTheAthlete I’ve seen the Nike ones just not ones from Walmart I’ll have to check older ones out.
@@Southern1984there and enjoy 😂
Nike bb shoeses are not durable these days amta lining has much better shoes
And1 was that. Stephon Maubury Knicks
Your videos are just getting better and better... nice!
Thank you- hoping the new studio levels some things up a bit
My absolute favourite hoop shoe reviewer, every video is a must watch.
As someone that works in a sports store that sells a few of these shoes that you review, the information you provide in these videos makes me feel a whole lot more confident selling these shoes as well!
G.O.A.T.
Way of Wade/ Li-Ling and 361 has been killing it! Just ordered my Quick Pro thanks to you and other reviewers. I wanted something lightweight, great traction, responsive cushion and great support. Checked all of my boxes. Very much gratitude to you and your content on protecting everyone’s feet at the end of the sessions ❤!
How is the bounce on the quick pro?
So glad to see how this channel keeps on improving and improving. Congrats on the studio doc! Ill still be here when the time your channel gets really really big.
I've been suffering so much pain on my feet for many years. Now, because of watching your videos, it really helped me a lot on choosing a better shoe for my feet.
been waiting for this review for forever it seems like !! but as always, the most reliable reviewer out there and did not disappoint. very torn between these or the 808 4’s…
Been waiting for this review from you, thank you!
Been waiting for this! Really appreciate you, doc. Also, congrats on your new lab.
Bought the wow10’s and big 3 future because of you. They’re freaking amazing!
Glad they’re working well for you
Loving the new setup doc
The science is amazing! I really appreciate the level you go to to make these reviews
I was shocked to see the midsole teardown. No top loaded shank like previous models. They probably felt the shoe had enough support features to avoid sacrificing comfort. And what the hell is up with the upgraded rubber? Testers saying the new traction/rubber compound is probably the best ever. Li-Ning/WOW is consistently improving their models year over year.
This shoe has the best step in comfort I’ve felt since the Clyde all pro’s
Waited for this. Well done! Ordered mine just waiting for it to arrive ❤
Doc really built a court in his set-up!!! 😂😂😂😂 I’m such a sucker for this channel ong
This shoe seems to me will be a budget WoW 11 for me. That shoe, while extremely good is just not affordable so I think I'll just stick to these. And again awesome review as always doc! It's very rare nowadays to come across these kinds of thorough and comprehensive shoe review that also backs hard science behind them in one short video. To me it's just highly commendable and I very much appreciate your hardwork. 👍👍👍
Doc you got the best videos
They have helped me a lot
Just some feedback @FootDoctorZach: I love the rating system at the end of the video, however the suggested videos from youtube covers half of the info.
Bought 2 pairs of the AC 12s love the, to bits. I wish these had a top shank like the 12s, still a solid shoe
Hey Doc, AC 12 encore or WOW 11 🤔
Kinda glad that u said these were like the 11, since I already got the 11 and was raring to buy these while my money's at 0. Especially since it's hard being a med intern with no money smh ._.
Brandblack did something similar with the Rare Metals by not only extending the tongue but also the eyelets up the front of your ankle while keeping the low-top feel in the back and lockdown is great on those models 💪
Another banger of a video doc!
seems you added more lights ! so much clearer...thanks for another amazing review...im waiting for some adidas basketball shoes....still running the Dame 8s
Zach your videos are awesome🎉🎉 , i'd like to recommend you liren 4 to review.. 😅
I wonder whether the Boom foam that Li-ning implemented in this shoes and the main WOW line up is same or not.
Which is better in outdoor? All city 12 or encore?
just got the 305 beige pair of these and played in them this weekend. such a huge upgrade from nike/jordan which i've been wearing all my life
Happy for u , that u try Wow/lining .. they beast in terms of performnce .. so much better than nike/adi ..
If they used breathable panels like that on Jordan retro’s, and used a more comfortable foam, it would be such a game changer! But they have to do it in a way, that they still look like OG’s. Just change inner foot panels, and tongues!
I have the all city 12's and love them. (thanks for the recommendation) I use them for pickleball. Love the cushion and responsiveness. I have a narrow foot and the all city 12 fit perfectly. the outsole wore out in one outdoor season but my fellow players sometimes go through 2 shoes in a season. Are the all city encore's still narrow and can you use them on outdoor courts?
Again, they decided not to make half sizes, which I'l never understand. I've noticed, whenever WOW makes bigger half-sizes... they sell out first because people want their true size. Really having trouble purchasing these knowing I'm going to either have to go down a half size or up a half size.
Wow I didn't know they don't make half sizes...that's ridiculous. I wear 9 but sometimes I prefer 9.5. like u said People want their "true size"
Wait what, where are you buying them from? Check their official website, there are half sizes...
Only the WOW 11 their flagship shoes offer half sizes
@@trydodis690 I buy off of Way of Wade. They’ll make a limited run of half sizes sometimes. Didn’t have them for the all city 11, had two colorways of the 12’s, which once I got my size, became my favorite shoe to hoop in.
@@shawnchan8964that isnt true, yhey offer us 0.5 sizes
3:45 D ZACH with ALL THE SMOKE
Wish the tongue of these were on the 2nd version of All city 12 which was used on Fission 9. It's so comfortable when I tried Fission 9 on.
Noticed that the material used for the top portion of the toes varies depending on the colorway. Green is mesh, Pink is suede, and the rest are a leather material. Do you know how the breathability and weight differs for each material? I got the green one because I still liked the colours and feel mesh would be the best for both. It was also the one tested in this video
Just bought the Kawhi 4s and two way v4s but these shoes are tempting me way too much
I swear to God, you always come in a clutch. I was thinking about buying the WOW AC 12 but didnt know if this where a better option
I have 2 pair of tue 12s and thought they were amazing have been thinking about the Encore.. Now I will be purchasing the all Blues..
if you have wide toe feet which would you choose: AC12 encore, ALC11, fission, dame 8 extply, dame 8 certified 2?
Hi Zach,
This AC 12 Encore,
if compare to All City 12, which one better?
Don 6 or all city 12 encore?
Just ordered these
Love the AC12 ...looking forward to getting these!
Hey doc, can you review a kobe 4 protro? Love the content.
WOW 11 or all city 12 encore???
Love your videos doctor , for a center with ankle sprains would you suggest these over the all city 12s?
Love your vids man, big fan from the Philippines! Long question ahead but I just wanted to ask, how many hours of hooping does it usually take for you to consider that the shoe is fully broken in? Asking because I just got these in the blue colorway, I've played in them for about 2 hours and I'm experiencing the stiffness around the first lace eyelet that you talked about in this video. Would that stiff feeling eventually go away? Thanks in advance for your response!! 1:58
Every shoe is different- some 40 min some take a few weeks
So the WoW 12 Encore is even better than the WoW AC 12. I thought the AC12’s were good already. Can’t wait to try the Encore. My only concern is the tall tongue.
What's your opinion on the All City 12 "Summer ver." Zach?
I second this!
Could you please review the new serious player only models. Curious to see how they’ve improved compared to the initial model. :)
What size do you get for this shoe if you’re 11.5 because on the site they don’t offer 11.5
Sounds perfect for volleyball
I watched your video. Bought it . Will try it tmr❤
thank you very much, good luc
I bought a pair All City 12 Encores and the outside of the shoe ripped away from the sole within 2 weeks of wearing them. This is the 2nd pair of Way of Wade’s that I have owned that have ripped after limited use.
What do you think of this vs the Big3 5.0 Quick Pro?
great question
Please do the curry 4 low flotro and the new way of wade all city 13 , you are the best btw thanks for all you do🤜🤛
Scratch the currys actually lol waste of time pretty much same tech every time might just split my own pair for the hell of it
Which 1 Way of Wade shoe would you recommend for taking them indoors and outdoors simultaneously?
If i play 3 times a week several hours only outdoor courts, how long will the outsole last if you had to guess
This or liren 4 v2?
random idea: arrange all of your half cut shoes along the wall in a bendy line, kind of like footsteps
Is wow 10 worth getting over this, or is this a better alternative for the price?
What do you think about this pair for indoor and outdoor volleyball?
Would like to ask if break in can improve pain in the toe box? The laces cause pinching on my foot.
Zach a pens fan?! Love seeing that jersey in the garage
You should review the lining liren 4 v2
I literally waited still this video to come out to see which shoe I wanted to buy 😂
@FootDoctorZach, given the score comparison WOW All City 12 (37.5) and WOW All City 12 Encore (37), the originals are better. But from your enthusiasm, it would seem like the Encores are better. Can you clarify?
I think that's bc the regular had a better durability grade. But I would love to see his answer
Hello Zach, Great review!
Just wondering why is this shoes are bad for bunion feet? I might missed it from the video
He said to be cautious because the stitching hits right in the bunion and Taylor bunion spots.
@@elimanselle244 Thanks!
Are these good for wide toe and high arch feet?
My son is looking at these and the Curry 12. He's 14, a size 12 and has wide/ flat feet. Which would you recommend for basketball?
Interesting…gonna rewatch the WearTesters review on the 12 Encore, because I feel like Chris said similar things about the Jordan 39 compared to this shoe. Either way, I think I’m sold getting the 12 Encore at some point.
Not surprised - he knows his stuff
I got the shoes half size up and they are still pretty tight but biggest issue for me is my left foot arch is getting scratched by something and after one time of playing i got a blisterz
Same bere, same exact thing happened, half a size up and pretty tight. But are we sure it wont become looser over time
Please do a Liren 4v2 low review 🥲
Would you prefer this? Or the regulars?
When you are wearing the shoe do you feel the big heel thing or just it just feel like its not there? I like everything else bout the shoe just dont know if that will annoy me or feel really weird
Smh had to come comment…. My guy made a basketball studio😂😂🔥🔥🔥that’s work
Which is better? AC12 or AC12 encore?
I’m not sure if you’re still looking but I’ve USED both and the grip on dusty courts on the encores is way better. you have wipe way less. but it has a weird fit and hurts more. both are quite breathable but the encores are better overall
Thank Doc, waiting for my pair of AC 12 encores.....I was gifted a pair of serious players only player 1 plus, can you do a break down on them please
this looks like it might be my next indoor hoop shoe. looks pretty great ngl. thanks for the breakdown.
It is to be honest, and the normal AC 12 is easily the best outdoor shoe. Li Ning/WOW has been killing the hoop shoe game lately. Price, quality, durability, comfort, and even support. It’s highly impressive the products they’re putting out with consistency and striking color-ways.
@@seppuku- ive been looking at the li ning and wow shoes. its just in australia it can be hard to get the shoes at a good price sometimes
@@jeromel4563 Don’t worry, they will sort that out in the next few years. They sell allot in the US that’s why they are prioritizing sales there and in China.
@@seppuku- yeah i hope so because with shipping its like 250 AUD which is alot for a bball shoe ngl which is 170 USD currently
@@jeromel4563 Yeah that’s allot for sure. I think it’s worth the money though because if the durability you’re getting. So if you want a quality shoe it’s worth saving up. But I expect them to be worldwide in the next two years, Nike has been on a massive decline as of late.
how do you compare this to the 361 Big 3 5.0 Quick pros & the New Balance V4? which one would you pick for outdoor use?
which shoe, the ac 12 regular, or ac 12 encore, do you think is better in terms of performance?
I’m gonna buy these for volleyball
Good choice
Wow ac12 encore vs low 10?
Doc are gt cut 3s and lebron 21 ok for outdoors?
Gtcut academy for outdoor
Cut3 & lebron for indoor
Please review 361 big 3 quick 5.0 regular
Are these shoes good for people who sprain their ankles often?
Zach, is it normal that my big toe is always getting hit on hard movements? Would a very snug fit or a larger fit be better to circumvent that issue? Or is it a common problem with basketball players
so does it feel like the Jordan 39 (but better in stability)? Because I like how it feels in the bottom of my feet.
Hello! Torn between these and the WoW 11s, which would you recommend over the two? Thanks Doc!
What is the best way to figure out what size to order for a Way of Wade shoe?? More specifically for the son of flash?
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I just got those from overseas work travel to China, usually I'm 11.5 US at almost any Jordan's. I got a 12 US and fits very similar. Half a size more was perfect for me.
Just measure your feet in cm and find the corresponding size in US/UK
What is better between ac12 or ac12 encore😊
Looking like a Harden 7/8 takedown model, but with premium tech.
do think i shoukld spend the extra bucks on the encore or just get the regular discounted ac12?
Are these shoes good for prominent styloid foot?
I have been watching a ton of your videos lately and I have narrowed my choice down to the 12 Encore or the Curry 12s. My foot is flat and I usually wear a 12 normal or 11.5 wide. In tighter shoes my the bottom of my foot feels like its burning but I am using the Lebron Witness 7s and they are super comfortable but they might be the most unstable thing I have ever used. Could you recommend either of these 2
I might’ve missed it but how do you like the tongue? It looks uncomfortable..
as a vball player that suffer from shin splints and needs max cushion/shock absorb. What is better, these or gt hustle 3, or if you have any other recommendation I will be so much grateful.