We've Finally Exposed the Biggest Lie In NBA History..
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- We've Finally Exposed the Biggest Lie In NBA History..
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When the next dynasty eventually happens, watch how everyone's gonna start missing this era of parity and how 'every year felt unpredictable'. People never appreciate what they already have.
This is what I'm thinking too. I guarantee in 6-7 years around 2030 people will start to have conversations about this era and the amount of superstar talent all in the league at one time. We often don't appreciate the good old days while we are in them.
@@tobintennisoniii8392 fax
@@tobintennisoniii8392 better then current??
@@Big_talks.better !!
@@curtiszyr you don’t think KD made it boring?!
It’s crazy to think that we haven’t had a game 7 in an nba finals since 2016.
That’s crazy nearly a decade of mostly gentlemen sweeps
We haven't had a Finals on that level since. 2021 was a lot more underrated than people give it credit for, but nothing close to 2016 (or 2010 and 2013)
Not really crazy to think. It is more often to not see a game 7. 1995 to 2004. I don't get why you would call it crazy.
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@@MrJohnnyAOA U mean back 20 years ago? In which some people that are in or are entering the nba rn weren’t even alive or remember? Some of yall just comment to be different I swear.
The parity argument was for fans of basketball not for casuals, we know casuals love big names and franchises.
Casuals ruin everything they touch in every media form
@@tingispingissports leagues wouldn’t exist without casuals
Well this finals sucked, casuals or not
I don't even think there really is a problem (see: new astronomic TV deal). It's just that the small negative group is very vocal and gets way more attention than they should. Or that people in general gravitate towards drama/negativity in the media. The media needs that attention to make money so they feed us shit. That's why youtube channels that give actual break downs of the strategies/tendencies of teams and players are on the rise.
@@officialthomasjames Speak for yourself. There's two ways to look at 1 team dominating the other: A: boriiiing, games/series have to go to the wire! B: Fascinating, a team that looked so strong in the previous rounds is getting completely shut down, how are the Celtics doing this despite terrible shooting?
The breakdowns of thinking basketball and hoops venue will show you the deeper layers of these games. If you don't appreciate that, that's fine, but there's a lot of people who do.
Casuals realizing that aura doesn’t actually win games was hilarious to see
It ain’t a comic book
That's the video game and tiktok generation for you
For sure, People think Tatum didn’t deserve to win because “he’s cringe”
@@thefaultinourpizza1513😂😂😂 this cracked me tf up
Sga and ant proved that in spades
It's the media's job to promote the sport but what do they do? They just make narratives and garbage takes and when people blindly rode those takes, they often get disappointed when it doesn''t fit their's or the media's narrative.
Honestly yeah, the media does does a shit job of promoting the game. They keep trying to push dumb narratives that don't pan out like 'Ant Edwards is the next face of the League' despite Jokic, Luka, Giannis far and above being the best 3 players in the League and either of them having a case for best player in the League. In the end the media invests so much time promoting bs that by the time you get to the finals everything they have said is irrelevant and casuals aren't invested anymore.
i think the unfortunate thing is that parity isn't going anywhere at this point. it's hard to imagine a single player or team dominating within the next few years with the amount of talent going in, and maybe bit of the new cba complicating the way gms be building teams
Exactly. Then aim of the new CBA is to maintain parity within the league so richer owners are not given more leverage in building teams than less wealthy owners. The more a set of players win, the more valuable they become. This leads to the need to release contracts in order not to accumulate "luxury tax"
social media has single handedly ruined society. Everyone's attention span is near zero and the love for things we used to value has diminished.
It is what it is.
How can we improve it
I love that every year has been a new champion. It creates unpredictable every season as well as, if a team does repeat, it makes that repeat title that much sweeter. Weve gotten so use to seeing same usual teams in the finals that not seeing usual teams in the finals, we don't know how to properly digest it and rather than appreciate that we are in a new league, truly. People are disliking it
i have felt this way for years and this video not only articulates the blatant hypocrisy of nba media and culture, but point blank lays out the facts as they are in simplest terms. great video
The thing about parity is, people want to believe anyone can take home the trophy when the Playoffs roll around. But when it comes down to it, people want to see the biggest stars and the best performances throughout the Playoffs and in the Finals. The KD Warriors are too much. But what we have now isn't really great either.
I love the parity. The fact that almost any team in the playoffs could win it all. No one is dominating and anyone can be beat. It feels real NCAA tournament like.
This inadvertedly proves that many debates over who is better, which era is better, which team is better is fueled by who the media glazes the most. 90% of basketball debates are just purely based on an interesting video they saw about their favourite team/player/era/position.
I like that it’s a new champion every year
Most of the passive watchers switched to the WNBA/women's college bball. Reese and Clark had the must watch stories this year.
i personally just stopped watching the nba during warriors kd chapter - it's a competitive sport with competition element just taken out
It's so much talent in the NBA right now.
I had a good laugh at “Besides Mike Malone because he’s annoying”
Love my HC, but I get it
Parity is great. But even fans from the 80s and 90s are hypocritical. They'll say those eras were very competitive meanwhile from 1980-1999, only 7 teams won the NBA Finals in a 20 year stretch.
I also think politics have played a factor into the ratings.
Lol
Year Bird drafted 5 of the All-Star starters were White, with 9 total. Young Bill Walton was MVP and was Finals MVP previous year, Pistol Pete was scoring leader previous year, former MVP Dave Cowens was only 28, Boston won rings in 74 and 76 with John Havlicek and Cowens as best players and may have 3 peated if Hondo didn't get injured in 75.
The ratings in the 70s weren't because the NBA was too Black, it was because the stars on good teams were too boring. I mean my God, the 78 and 79 Finals were the Bullets vs the Supersonics. Were people turning in to admire Wes Unseld's transcendent outlet passes?
And Drug use was rampant in the NFL and MLB in the 70s, it just wasn't (and still not) mentioned as much and wasn't as stigmatized as severely because such a high percentage of users were White, so it didn't fit narrative that demonized and perpetuated stereotypes about Black people, which many were happy to jump on and selectively exploit for own gain and agenda.
Then the 2 most entertaining champions the NBA ever saw in Bird and Magic arrived, who both became top contenders for GOAT status in their prime before Jordan ended that debate.
Good, well thought-out assessment!
The NBA is a show. It is not about the basketball, as seen by how little basketball is actually being played. Nobody watches the NBA for the beauty of the sport. It is basically a reality TV show. As such, if you lack storylines, drama, heroes and villains, it is just bland. Because that's where it begins and where it ends. There is no quality of basketball being played to fill the gaps. If you don't have dramatic story arcs, all that's left is bad basketball. Not even hardcore hoops fans are going to watch that for long. They go to Euroleague.
People are more interested in familiarity and toxicity - an eternal quote.
When it says “we” and it’s Stephen Smith saying it, you know it can’t be serious.
Amen bro!! The NBA NEEDS a bad guy‼️
Cant really put Viewer numbers as a reliable data since this is just numbers counted by the broadcasters. Accesibility in technology now enables people watch PPV shows from livestreamers.
& despite the mavs losing it was good to see Luka finally had a team and help to get to the finals they just couldn’t get the job done !!!
blame the play in tournament for why the finals suck
Maybe the problem is the NBA does a shit job at promoting their stars and product. No more showing player intros, no promotional video, no trophy or even logo on the damn court. Parity is great for the league, and we're not gonna sit here and act like watching the Warriors rip everyone a new asshole for 2 years straight was fun. But it only works if the NBA broadcasts focus on the Lukas, Giannis, Jays, Jokics, SGAs, etc of the basketball world, instead of talking about the Lakers again. Their click and view baiting strategies are funnily enough the reason why people tire and refuse to give a shit about basketball
I love the parity, if we had no repeat champions for the next decade that would be sick
The media is trying to find who will replace the stars of yesteryear and today. But sadly, we haven't found them yet despite excellent years from insane talent (Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Embiid, Tatum) because they haven't built large and loud cases with something that casuals and the media would talk about more, which is RINGS. I am heavily against ring culture talk but it speaks volumes with how players are perceived by the larger crowds
Except NFL has parity and gets better views. NBA marketed wrong lmao
I love the parity honestly. Leagues in a good place
The arguments about the Celtics having an easy road can be solved by having a good history of the nba.
Nobody necessarily wanted parity. People want greatness. They want to be the best or beat the best. The problem with today’s game is there are no truly “great” players really outside of Lebron, Steph, Giannis and Jokic. After that just really good players SGA, Embiid, Antman. So what happens is with free agency the top teams shift. Moving Jrue Holiday decreased Milwaukee’s chances of winning and increased Boston’s. With their changes Minnesota’s bigs were able to match up with Denver, but not Dallas’ guards. But Dallas guards couldn’t match up with Boston’s. So every year with player movement there will always be a change. Golden State is the last (maybe OKC) of the naturally built dynasties and GS got lucky (Steph hurt, got Klay, and stumbled on Draymond that fit perfectly).
i didn't watch it because it was a team, from boston, winning a championship, AGAIN. When you consider that (along with the fact that their fanbases are some of the most narcissistic, obnoxious, and intolerable fanbases to ever blight the earth), it's no wonder people dropped it. The series was over after game 1, boston just let dallas win one to feel good about themselves that they didn't get swept. it was lopsided, and it wasn't even particularly close. people don't watch lopsided playoff series. you know how it ends. there's no point in even pretending it's worth caring about,
Everyone needs a hero and more people need a villain. Without someone's downfall to root against and without fear of missing something historic, viewership dwindles. I personally love the NBA at the moment, but I think some of the CBA changes have made it hard for teams to really come to true dominance.
I also think some of the dwindling viewership, outside of the rise of social media replacing viewing the games as a whole, has been how bad the economy is pushing more people to pirate the games.
Seems that most people don't watch the NBA for the TEAM sport that basketball is. They just watch it for the narratives and to root for or against X superstar player
The Finals aren’t boring. But The Warriors making it look so easy for bout 3 years made people not wanna watch especially during 17 & 18
4:30
"This is what it looks like"
*Sewer tier casters and production, an 0-3 start*
Nah it's really about the stars... The stars carry the league and we just don't have those types of undeniable stars with the old guard taking steps back 🤷♂️
People don't like parody. Golf thrived when Tiger Woods was beating cheeks. NBA thrived when Jordan was smacking. Ladies' golf has seem a big jump with Nelly Korda dominating the first half of this year.
In conclusion Wemby and his Spurs dynasty will save the NBA
Yeah it’s not really about the super teams to me. Yeah we do like big dogs and dynasties getting taken down, but how the team gets created matters too. Also, the refs and rule changes plus uncontrolled offenses all regular season has made me grow tired of the league at times
After the intensity of the 2021 playoffs which was some of the best ball I ever seen, thought the last 3 years it was gonna be similar or better but only 2023 has delivered overall as a playoffs outside of the Finals
Games are too difficult to find to watch.
Ball has been boring all yr. Forget the narratives it’s just a bad product rn. And it’s so many things on the list that needs to be addressed it’s crazy.
If it was Denver or Minnesota I guarantee viewership would have been higher, their series felt like how the finals are supposed to feel. Watching an exasperated Luka is exhausting. Watching one sided games is boring.
Neutral fans had a really hard time caring about this one. I don't think parity has much to do with it. It just wasn't entertaining.
The only team to make the finals consistently lately is the Heat, says a lot about them
The NBA had a 6 year span of six different champions before if you start from the 1974-1975 season to 1979-1980 season, the Warriors won in 75 The Celtics in 76 The Blazers in 77 The Bullets in 78
The Supersonics in 79 The Lakers in 80.
So, basically, no contemporary face of the league, no definitive franchise rivalry, no FInals mainstay and no hero's journey narrative.
What exactly is your point? The NBA has never been about parity. The NBA has always had an agenda pushing certain teams/players. It's why the Mavs were in the finals. The NBA needed the Celtics to win. I think that's why people don't tune in as much anymore. It's just blatant how they favor certain teams and most people can see it. But that's not the only reason the ratings WILL NEVER be the same. There's too many options. Why keep watching a WWE basketball game, when your team is eliminated and there's thousands of shows and movies you haven't seen? Also easier to stream (illegally). Casual fans, etc etc....
No one has ever been truly pushing for parity because it will never exist.
Honestly its simple, people dont like watching basketball anymore and there's no clear cut top team leading to no rivalry and no top dog to take down, parity might be more interesting for us hardcore fans but for the casual fan and the story telling of the NBA its a bad thing
NBA just got a 5 billion dollar contract lol. Cavs Warriors were boring, who cares if casuals watch if NBA is more profitable than ever? NFL has different teams win every year and they get ratings.
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p casuals is what keeps the game alive, the deal it signed is because of casual fans watching, if those fans stop watching that deal will be the last of its kind, NBA is more profitable but everything around the league is more expenses too, and for the NFL the past decade has been brady and mahomes mainly so the NFL comp is a bad one
The whole thing about the 70s... Well yea, they had to have it change that decade.. the Celtics nearly won every year in the 60s, and a few in the late 50s. Minus only '58 and '67, and had they won those, it would've been 13 straight championships. No one could do that again, nor would it be wanted. Hell, look how people start acting towards and looking at 3peats.. 🤷
Boston played great team basketball. I enjoyed watching them put on a clinic.
If The Celtics appear and win again next year, they have to be the villains that the fans made..
The people who want parity aren't the fans, they're the owners. Specifically they're the owners who don't know what they're doing. Bad team owners want parity because they don't want to own teams that suck every year, that's not why they spent billions of dollars to own a professional sports team. The problem is, a lot of NBA owners kinda suck, and instead of understanding their own limitations and their own flaws, they look for something to blame.
So owners put pressure on the media, and do absolutely stupid things to how the league works (super-max contract, I am looking *straight* at you), and they use everything in their power to make parity into a thing that other people care about.
But here's the thing: sports aren't fair. If sports were fair, we'd all be professional athletes. Either you're good, or you're not, and sometimes you spend years paying your dues, and finally Pete Sampras retires, and you get to be the #1 tennis player in the world for a week, a single goddamn week, before Roger Federer shows up and goes on an absolutely historic run, practically erasing you from the history books. Andy Roddick was done dirty by the gods of fate. But that's sports. It's not fair.
I think part of the problem is there is no real clearcut next super star personality in these young guys... i didn't watch this finals after the first game because it was clear dallas couldn't hang
doncic is talented. but he is too slow, i can imagine him getting bigger and slower next season. fakes pumps and crossovers can only bring you that far.
NBA is a part of entertainment. If you don't have that entertainment factor it can get lopsided. Parody is like a blessing and a curse.
I don't know if the 2020s might turn into the 1970s where multiple teams go to the finals. NBA is a star driven league. NFL is a team driven league. NBA is similar to a soap opera. The most entertaining factor is dynasties. To die hard fans parody is good thing, multiple teams winning every year but to others it's boring or not fascinating. Dynasties is gonna be every decade at least a few of them. Maybe parody is not significant as people initially thought. Sorry to say this but people love theatrics, drama brings people in.
I hate the Celtics because they're staked, they have a big three plus the two best defensive guards in the entire league
This years finals was really boring
I don’t really have a problem with the narrative I think the reason casuals aren’t attracted to NBA as whole is due to the NBA poorly promoting dudes like Jokic, Luka, Embiid but put some much emphasis in LeBron and he is in his late 30’s now. Those dudes in the 70s weren’t promoted like Magic and Bird. The NBA saw the potential rivalry and pushed them both heavy. Then they turned to MJ and he became one of the most popular athlete in the world. Then Kobe came and the pushed him next. And then LeBron came around and hopped on that train when he was in high school. You don’t see Jokic or Luka get pushed that much. Sport pundits constantly put them down so no one is gonna tune in if they constantly get negative press. Now however they’re trying to push guys like Any, Shai. It’s the problem MLB has been facing now
Exactly. They put out a young players list and put luka 4th. The guy thats 2nd in playoff history in ppg, the guy that screams at opponents faces when they win. It's mostly xenophobia. They can't deny when they win though for sure.
Frankly, the lights just got too much brighter at the biggest stage. I mean the Mavs had 4 main guys that had little to no experience at the playoffs and one is a rookie. As it got deeper in the playoffs the role-players just got worse and it didn’t help that Kyrie was inconsistent and Luka having injury and refs problems of his own. The Mavs will get better tho and will definitely get back at that stage soon💯💯
It's crazy. The casuals dont actually care about just watching basketball unless there's a narrative attached to it . Smh
The nba is not a basketball league is a circus basketball league
If you want to watch real sport you watch euro league
The fans there actually enjoy the game, USA fans only cares about drama and big names
No one cares about the Celtics.
casuals are the only way you can grow or maintain a sport. you have to put a product out there that a random viewer can stumble on and immediately choose a side and feel invested in and continue to watch. no casual fan is gonna watch a blowout or latch on to players they dont have a reason to like or dislike
@@PhenomRomso you're a casual. If you liked ball, you would appreciate how the dismantled the mavs.
@@verward you can force them to care
Basketball in general has a casual fan problem.
Fans come on talking and saying shit without knowing the context or having a deep understanding of the game.
I personally have loved the parity. As a die hard basketball fan, I watch everything from the Olympics, to Euro Ball, NBA, NCAA, G-League and the WNBA.
It's just sad to see fans shit talking series or playoffs just because the household names aren't competing.
I mean, this starts off with takes from two professional casual fans.
SAS has no idea what he's talking about, but he's loud.
The other guy looks like he pissed off his make-up artist, and they've been playing a joke on him for years.
Yes, you are exactly right. Sadly the narratives aren’t written for the people who know what really happened, they’re written for the people that don’t know what happened.
Is the media going to try to give people (who know nothing about what happened) context or actual beneficial information so that people can form their own perspective, OR are they going to try to criminally simplify everything and come up with a narrative that goes off 10% truth and 90% bullshit which people then believe and then that idea gets spread around like wildfire to the point where that becomes the new “truth” and those who actually know what happened end up being seen as delusional.
It’s unfortunate but all that people care about is who wins and who loses. Those who win oftentimes get far more credit than deserved and those who lose end up slandered and disrespected far more than deserved.
No one cares for details unless they really have a passion for it. The world functions off ignorance of people who think they know what happened.
Luka played better than Tatum nearly that entire season and series. Believe me, people are going to start saying that Tatum is better than Luka, simply because he won and Luka didn’t.
The reasoning? “Tatum is a winning player, Luka folds in big moments”
@@THEjoelivingstone Those "professionals" know what they're doing. They the push narratives that will please the casual fans op is talking about.
Without the 'casual fan problem' the league you love so much will be dissolved. Casual fans are the ones spending the money to allow the league to be as big as it is. It's great that you enjoyed the finals, but don't be upset most people didn't.
Do people like you feel smart using such a casual word as casual to complain about fans 😂 most people aren’t gonna dive that deep into shit some people just wanna watch one player some people just wanna watch highlights welcome to the new age
You know the finals was ass when rdcworld aint post no skits lol
Frrr
FR!
give us someone who doesn't collapse in 5 games then
😂😂😂true
@@loufyyy womp womp we won, y'all lost
The league does a terrible job of marketing their young stars. It's lebron and the lakers. Kd. Steph and the warriors.
When you have ESPN gargling Lebron's jocks 24/7, this is what you get. For pete's sake, Celtics just won their championship and these jackasses at ESPN can't help but bring Lakers or Lebron on the topic.
Great point! I feel they underestimate the average fan and don't want to go into the strategy to show what makes teams great.
@@suiken3149 TBF the league has been riding on his coattails for decades, he's the new Jordan but more controversial, and has so many points of discussion. Look at the ratings since he's stopped dominating. I don't think we'll see a level of hype like the 2013 or 2016 finals for a very long time, and even when LeBron lost he still made a damn good show like in 2018 and 2015
@@sammcdermott78 The ratings stopped because they focused on him instead of hyping up newcomers. They are all over Antman as "the next Jordan" after the Nuggets series.
And Lebron didn't exactly brought ratings. 2007 and 2020 are two of the worst rated Finals series with Lebron on both.
2020 isn't fair, that was the whole blm fiasco and the kneeling during the flag in the pandemic. Nba lost viewers because of that. 2007 was his first finals and he was on a small market team.
When the media still talks about Bron when there are a lot of young stars that needs to be hyped up, casuals will know nothing.
one thing i realized also is ppl are so used to dominance they forget how hard this game truly is lmao they saw bron go to the finals 8 times and thought it was a walk in the park now that he's stepping down we see how hard that shit trully is both mentally and phisically
They know. They just put him down because he's compared to Jordan. And they hate it. So they look for every opportunity to trash him.
Those TV ratings are US only, right? I ask that because, in my country, the NBA is nothing but growing, year after year.
This group think shit is exhausting and this helps me articulate what I want to get across. Thats a great point.
Yes it is only US stats. I believe in China there are hundreds of millions that watch the finals (pre covid)
Bball is so much bigger now. I mean I just got back from parade and it seemed like there were 1 million people there. More people play and follownbball than ever before.
thats true but the big money is made in the US, no tv network is handing the nba 8 billion a year to own rights to the games to be streamed in some countries in europe, but american tv networks have that kinda money, international tv networks dont
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You can't miss what you don't have. If the NBA is forecasting a certain abount of revenue for a business quarter. You can bet that its going to be a larger number than what will actually come out. I'm sick of being told thats losing money.
I'm more concerned with getting people to the circus than I am about separating the people from their money.
Been known that fans are hypocrites
Casuals.
Real fans want good basketball.
The problem is nobody is getting what they want.
Yeah . Luka fans are the most hypocritical fanbase in modern nba. I agree
Well it’s in the nature of being a “fan” once you become a fan you’re not longer objective and your opinions have to have an asterisk.
Nope, casuals put asterisks on players. They can't break down the games, players, or strengths and weaknesses. That's why they say useless stuff like accolades, stats, or excuses why championships should be discounted. 🙄
Sadly, that's mostly what the content consists of.
Nah fuck the narratives and storylines. I just wanna see teams compete and rival each other. That shit beats any fake ass narrative
Exactly!! And there was a serious lack of that this playoffs, the east was a joke! The nugs who seemed unstoppable in playoffs got beat by twolves and it had the world going crazy! Shits not fun when we know who’s gonna win, and in Bostons case in the east every series was free
@@loufyyy fr i think its that argument between what die hard NBA hoop heads want versus casuals.
Sadly 😔 that's not what the casuals care for.
This year finals were super boring
I think the most boring finals I’ve seen. Couldn’t believe it 🤦🏽♂️
@@SWISHOUT wolves nuggets was the best series this playoff
@@SWISHOUT2023 and 24 finals were boring
Definitely I thought last years finals was bad but this was the worst finals I have seen
unfortunately a celtics team without kp was 10 times better than the fully healthy team that came out of the west
The whole narrative and storyline points you bring up are exactly why some don't rate Tim Duncan as much as another player. Basketball can be so dramatic at times lmao
It’s funny
And Tim actually has a goat case, man it is what it is
and its dumb because if Boston is back in the finals next year all of a sudden its starting to become a dynasty and the mystique goes up again. but maybe a competitive finals is what's been lacking tbh
@@7Bobby7 no he doesn't.
@@7Bobby7absolutely not. Top 10. Yes. Top 5. Maybe. GOAT? Hell no
Lets not pretend the actual look, and presentation of the finals were softer, and that the competition was lacking it was just smoke not competetive
fr dude not even real finals logos on the court
Soo you are saying last few years competition was lacking, but from 2017 to 2018 when Warriors were far ahead of everyone in the league and Cavs literally played against nobodies in their conference, it was great competition lmaoo😂😂😂😂😂😂 stop it. We are in 2024 right now, if there are 2 years more of winning a team that isn't superteam, this era willbe better than 2010s even before this year would finish because already right now this era has really great start. People are disrespecting the buble despite knowing that it was the most competitive play off the NBA has seen in years and years because literally in first round Denver vs Utah, Denver won in 7 games and that 7th game was extremely close. Clippers and Dallas was also really good series, Clippers won in 6 games, than in 2nd round Clippers and Denver played 7 games again, Denver came back from 3-1 deficit 2nd time in a row and Celtics and Toronto also played 7 games. In conference finals Miami and Celtics played 6 games and Lakers defeated Denver in 5 games, but if Davis missed that last 2 in game 2 it would be much different and more interesting series, soo final result doesn't tell the full story. And in finals it is true that Miami had no chance against Lakers, but it was still good series, they played 6 games amd when you look at that play off objrctively... That play off was waay more fun than 2017 play off, 2018 play off, 2015 play off and even 2012 play off. And those other play offs were also nice, Giannis had amazing play off run in 2021 to win his championship, Steph won his 4th championship and for me that play off run of Golden State was my favourite one, than Denver played like the best team in NBA since 2017 Warriors and this year yeah, Celtics had some easy play off run, but there were also years like that in 2000s and 2010s so I agree that this play off wasn't soo interesting, but if you look at 2020s decade, every singoe season there is new team eho wins championship and that's great for NBA
@@hristijandimitrovski8664 fuckin christ take it to a publisher
@@spencergrant7901 I didn't answered to your comment
So now yall don’t want parity in the league now after most of yall were b*tching about it?? Yall hated Bron and GSW always in the finals but now yall miss it?? 😂
people want what they don't have 💀
No one’s bitching about parity, the recent NBA Finals matches have all been blowouts. That’s not parity
@@radiicola3631Then maybe the teams that were expected to be in the Finals should have gotten there.
@@radiicola3631Parity in the nba means there are different winners/contenders every year and not just 1-2 teams dominating every year. The whole 2020s have parity
Lebron was only there because the east teams were complete trash.
Parity is good
This is a great video, but let's dive even deeper. The reason for parity is this - NBA players are now so talented that no team rolls over anymore. Almost any given player can play like LeBron or Steph on a given night. You can't have parity if even a G-Leaguer on a two way contract can go off for forty. Players have gotten too good to be predictably dominated.
@@philwilson609that and the defense is ass now, it’s just not the same, refs call fouls for everything
@@philwilson609 Not true at all dude, the best players are still way better than the average players. It's that rule changes make it impossible to keep teams of good players together or to add good players to an already good team. The Timberwolves came 4th in the playoffs, you'd expect that they now want to improve the team and try to win next season, right? No, they have too many good players already & the automatic raises are putting them too far over the salary cap so they're going to need to get rid of 1 of their good players. It's disgusting. Teams are punished for doing well and teams that are managed poorly are rewarded for it. The Celtics could win 1 or 2 more titles then they'll be forced to break up the team as well.
As a European, my observation is NBA fans follow the players not the teams. Personally I went from Jordan's Bulls to the Lakers > Spurs > Warriors. People don't want to admit how common this is. I bet it's a tiny minority that supports one team from the 1970s up to now. It's not like in Europe where I've been an Arsenal fan since I was born and I will never change teams. Everyone I know has changed NBA teams, I even know one girl who changed from Lakers to Celtics.
@@valleyshrewthe timberwolves mismanaged their salary and are paying the consequences Boston and OKC have more talent and are just fine.
Everybody, please watch one singular full games from the 90s and 80s. And see how much better the broadcasting is. It's night and day.
They literally had a banger theme song for the league that they got rid of for no reason.
Now all they talk about in every single broadcast is Lebron's losing goat debate case that everyone is tired of.
It's not even about the parity. It's just the super lopsided matchups, and so many blowouts.
Bingooo… I watched game and be super excited but once it became a blowout I stopped. I immediately could tell the Celtics were actual final contenders while the mavs got perfect matchups for themselves to get there
Then maybe the teams that were expected to get to the Finals should have gotten there.
Do you want the dominant team to point shave?
Maybe tell the teams and their incompetent GMs to step their roster-building game up
@@jaylock9twenty5 I just want a finals that isn’t a snooze fest. I never said anything about making the teams play worse than they should
The problem is these fluky runs to the finals. It's cool on the way up, but very anticlimatic once the underdog meets the favorites eventually. If we had a Boston-Denver/Minnesota finals it would be extremely entertaining
Exactly right. Which is why last seasons finals was more boring than this one.
The 8 seed from the East got hammered by the favourites. Of course there was little interest in it.
At least this series has Luka and Kyrie to look forward to.
@@StuTheDon17thats cuz the heat didn’t tyler herro as another offensive option, and eric spoelstra kept playing small ball
Well said.
I think we are spoiled from how good the 2013, and 2016 finals series were.
Nah ig still didn't feel like a finals
I dont think the Mavs were a bad team in the finals like a lot of people. This is still a team that beat the Clips, Thunder, and Wolves to get there. I just think the Celtics are just that damn good compared to them.
NBA culture is so crazy that the 2nd place team is the one that gets slandered the most
I mean I think clippers yeah the Mavs were better than.
Idc if Kawhi was hurt that can’t be an excuse every year
I honestly don’t think the Mavs were better than the thunder I just think they were more experienced. That was a team full of rookies and sophomores who haven’t been to the playoffs
The wolves were just a good matchup. The Mavs could target who they want to attack on offense and defensively you could hide players since you have offensive liabilities like Rudy and Kyle Anderson.
As a euro fan... hiw tf y'all allow 15 top 150 players on 1 team. Starting 5 all top 50. 6-8 top 75 9-11 top 100😂
Nah Luka and Kyrie embarrassed themselves
@@RT-qz5cifound the casual. Luka and Kyrie took a lottery team last year to the finals coming out of the west where 1-9 all had a chance. Their core basically had 20 games to gel before the playoffs. Boston was just a better team and Mavs (especially Luka and Kyrie playing 40+ minutes all the way up to the finals) looked worn down as well. Boston was just definitely more well rounded and I don’t think 4-1 represents the real difference.
77’ - Portland
78’ - Washington
79’ - Seattle
80’- Los Angeles
81’ - Boston
82’- Philadelphia
“Not since the merger has there been 7 different champions “
The Celtics in the 60’s
No dynasty in the 70’
Lakers, Celtics, Pistons won multiple and 9 of the 10 Championships
90’s - Bulls
00’s - Lakers won 5, San Antonio 3, Detroit 1, Boston 1
10’s- Heat, Warriors, Mavs, San Antonio…
The ratings in the NBA, along with the narrative of parity…
People love to see dominance, it wasn’t just Kobe. It was Shaq. The Kobe and Shaq Beef.
It was Phil Jackson.
It was the aura and mystique and glamour of the Lakers.
The problem isn’t parity.
The problem is the NBA marketing players instead of the game and the teams.
Teams that dominate will always draw ratings… their villain arc remains strong.
Great analysis.
There’s many reasons why the 70’s aren’t talked about…
the ABA, the NBA wasn’t even close to being the second major sport~ Boxing was more popular. College Basketball was more popular.
The race narrative was real as well. Basketball was widely viewed as a Black man’s game.. back then. Heck MLB was more popular than basketball in the 70’s.
The 80’s were the most popular because of the dynamic of the dynasty and the up and coming teams who’d battle years before prevailing…
The 60’s revisited of the Lakers and Celtics rivalry, which has always had an impact in viewership.
The NBA has tried to emulate the grand success of the Jordan brand which took the game global.
What people miss is the organic rise of Jordan. How he MADE Nike… the global brand it is today.
They attempted to replicate it, Kobe, Shaq and Phil Jackson were the closer thing to the rock star Bulls of the 90’s.
If the NBA respectfully chronicled it’s history like the NFL and MLB, and the stars rose organically, branding themselves through their play (Bird, Magic, Jordan, Isiah)
The media and social media influencers have created this false narrative, this false perception…. It was never true.
Jokic, SGA, Luka, Antman, Tatum
Wemby, Chet, Scottie Barnes
Jaylen Brown, Cade, Banchero
so much young talent in the league man cmon!!!
jokic is 29
@@JRRM97 dont matter u get the point
It's the least amount of star young talent since the 70s
@@Danny_SE11 I disagee, Luka and Jokic will be top 20 players minimum when its said and done. NBA has some real hoopers rn. 70s couldnt compete with these guys
Jordan, Kareem, Kobe, LeBron, and Magic were all old by the time of the last ring.
I agree with you on Superstars and familiarity bringing in more viewers. I’ll just say this, if the games were a bit more competitive in the Finals it would’ve definitely gained more interest. Fact of the matter is that three of the last five Finals (‘20, ‘23 & ‘24) were one-sided and boring. But the NBA is like a soap opera, they’ll find a new protagonist and antagonist to help drive viewership
That's a good point. I think what fans ment when they said parity, they ment parity of talent not parity of results. Having teams with 4, 5+ all stars means they demolish most other teams with these lopsided results. Its not entertaining to watch. I basically stopped watching when KD went to the warriors. I already knew the end results and was proven right in the end
@@kelseychanel7853The Celtics are not the 2017 Warriors.
@@urbaindelva7869 Compared to the rest of the talent in the NBA, they weren't far off from the 2017 Warriors level of superiority. They won 64 games if I'm not mistaken and went 16-3 in the playoffs. This was pure domination (and yes, I know they faced a couple injured teams in the playoffs)
No. nba is star driven its not football. One guy has ball so much.
@@xavierb9061 yeah=, but teams where one guy is dominating the ball, like the mavs, aren't as good as teams where the ball is shared, like the celtics.
The reason this NBA playoff season was boring is because Boston didn’t have a single tough match up. You knew they had a free pass to the finals.
Yet, Indiana gave them more of a scare than Dallas did.
Dallas were an embarassment to the Finals. Your frustrations should be aimed at the team that didn't show up. Not the team that did.
Sure, there could've been much tougher series. The entire year points towards Boston winning comfortably against the entire east though, and most teams in the west. It wasn't ONLY the east being crippled. It was also Boston being damn good this year. They've shown it all season, and even semi-rested their entire starting five for many 4Qs and for weeks at the end of the season due to them being so dominant against teams from BOTH conferences.
People want the idea of parity but they want it with great teams. But it’s like a movie once said, “when everyone is super, no one is.”
parity itself isn’t the issue, it’s the nba’s inability to market parity that has been the biggest problem. the lack of parity just covered up how bad nba media had been.
Bro when it was Cleveland and golden state for 7 years str8 everyone complained now it’s switching and it’s a problem
It’s so funny. These finals were boring because it was a juggernaut superteam with one of the most dominant seasons in NBA history steamrolling a 5 seed and 90% of people picked the 5 seed lol.
Basketball has always, ALWAYS been about drama. I dont know if it's a bad thing or who's at fault, but the nba will see adversity at the highest stage soon enough. And when that happens, you will have your villains and your heroes. The NBA will be fine. Just a slump.
I think there are a few problems:
1. The media presentation of the finals - There’s no sense of grandeur, legacy, urgency, etc.
2. During the season, the NBA should build up the teams that are actually good rather than just talk about the Lakers nonstop
3. Tatum as a brand/superstar is generic and lacks the X factor. He is sold to us as today’s Kobe but Jalen Brown on the same team is arguably a better player.
4. Similar to my second point about teams, same thing with players. The audience is fatigued of the old guard - KD, Bron, Chris Paul, KD, Harden. COVER THE NEW GUYS AND PUSH THEM. This is THEIR time. Jokic, Ant, Wemby, SGA, Luka
NBA media needs to promote players and take a positive perspective of hoops, rather than create narratives. Narratives aren't selling anymore. BASKETBALL is what we want. This opinion won't be popular, but it's facts
Parity isn't the problem. The problem is the *PRODUCT*. People cared about watching guys like Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Vince Carter, and Shaquille O'Neal because of their game, not whether or not they were winning. Shaq was super-popular when he was in Orlando, A.I. was a generational inspiration in spite of never winning a championship. Vince Carter practically defined above the rim play.
What people don't want to watch is San Antonio: Boring, fundamentally-sound basketball played by a bunch of anodyne 3 and D guys standing around the 3-point line looking for a catch and shoot after the ever-predictable pick and roll. And that's the game which the current rules has benefited. Post play is dead, and coaches want players to take open 3s or layups, and it works because the shitty enforcement of traveling and the laughably bad defense restrictions make stopping even the most tepid ballhandler virtually impossible. NBA players are being paid $40 million dollar salaries to play HORSE.
If you want to see exciting basketball, then *making a basket* has to be difficult. It can't just be hucking bricks over half-hearted closeouts, over and over and over again.
Facts 🎉🎉🎉
ESPN having the finals is a deal breaker for me. They do 15 min of commercial with 1 min of commentary for half time.
I 100% blame the refs and Adam Silver for that. They killed any rivery during the games. They killed any play that happens in the paint.
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I think a big part is the lack of rivalries. Rivalries fuel fans, players, and the media. But the parity makes rivalries harder to get and market, so therefore the interest in the league isn’t there anymore
wemby and spurs vs chet and thunder might change that
Yeah I was hoping for a GS vs Boston rematch but draymond and Klank Thompson had other plans.
The NBA doesn't have local city rivalries like Arsenal vs. Chelsea. I know a lot of people that support both the Lakers and Warriors, I also know people who support both the Knicks and the Nets. If you did that in Europe you would get beaten up.
@@One.Zero.One101this is the thing. The ‘fans’ aren’t really fans, they like a player or a jersey or a city topically. There’s a dude I know who likes both the lakers and Celtics. It’s insane
*parity, not parody
The regular season is a joke. No one plays defense so you get these fake ass numbers fake ass records and fake ass teams who get exposed in the playoffs
The lie about Luka not being the best player in the league 😂