What You Should Know About Joe Rogan
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- The REAL Reason Joe Rogan is So Popular
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3:38 The Rise of Joe Rogan
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10:49 Joe Hates Boxes
14:47 Joe Sells Contrarianism
16:23 Joe Lets People Talk
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80% of kids who are diagnosed with dysphoria do outgrow it with puberty, that is a factual medical statement that is widely known in the relevant medical communities, so that clip being shown as evidence of misinformation on the show should be removed as it's right to say there are people who push nonsense on the show but that particular example isn't one.
Would love a Johnny Harris Joe Rogan Podcast episode!!!
@@NaveedKhan-gk2px Agreed!
Calling it, Johnny Harris + Joe Rogan interview by the end of the year on the JRE podcast.
Over/under: November 27th
No shot
Johnny worked at Vox before so Joe will not have him on
Maybe they'll watch some Jakerton memes while they're at it!
No no the goal of this was to make sure he didn't interview Trump!
ok
As both a listener of JRE and a viewer of yours, I think you getting on the show would be a rich discourse. It's already set up so perfectly--you being the journalist who answers some of the most interesting questions, and him being the interviewer that just throws just as many interesting questions, though sometimes controversial.
I was thinking of this as well.
I want this.
This please
Harris was a Sr. Video Producer at VOX....Not exactly the Washington Post or the NY Times, or Car & Driver for that matter.
Compared to them, VOX was a blog with videos. Albeit a popular blog with videos. But I would stop short of calling him a Journalist because he didn't have a seat in the WH Briefing room & he never traveled w/the WH Press Corps, or is even a member of the National Press Club that I could find. Doesn't mean he isn't talented. He's got a long way to go, is what I'm saying.
*EDIT* when I wrote this, it was 6:45am or something, and since then many people have enlightened my position.
Like when the lights come on in a night club. _Don't have to go home, but you can't stay here_
Definitely! This would be awesome!
"My biggest critique of Joe Rogan: Joe lets people talk"
wild statement lol
Very media-esque
Your comment was what I came to the comments for. Underrated comment! My first thought after hearing the OP say that was, "... and that's a bad thing?" Everyone deserves their chance to speak in the court of public opinion.
Video was quite good, up until this point.
WTF honestly. Letting people talk is the exact thing we need to do. We shouldn't fight on the streets. We shouldn't bomb cities. We need to talk, and censoring people you deem "not worth to have a voice" is exactly what mainstream media is doing and why people are fed up with them.
Ya, authoritarian leftists don't like people being able to exercise rights lol
The only person that should have a voice is me… that’s really democratic! 😂
If ideas are bad the best way to thwart them is through open discourse.
Amen
It's crazy how Johnny Harris blatantly says Joe "is a leftist" and then completely ignores everything he's done and said for the past 3 years after he had a major political shift. No Johnny, Joe is not a Bernie Sanders supporter, he literally pushed Ron DeSantis for the next president.
Get out of the left right paradigm
He is pushing for desantis because he knows that Biden does not stand a chance in the upcoming election.
He would rather have Desantis over trump.
@@Civilianmusic no bro is spitting
@@Civilianmusic it’s not a left/right paradigm it’s more of a normal person/insane person paradigm
15:22 watch this part again. This is exactly what everyone is doing in these comments. Harris never says “Joe is a leftist”, he says, “Joe leans left on a lot of topics”, which is absolutely true. Some of his ideas align with the left, and some with the right. People think if you have even just one idea that aligns with the right then you’re an extreme right wing reactionary. 🙄 His entire point was that Joe Rogan didn’t fit into a usual box.
Can you also do "The Rise of Johnny Harris"?
White mormon dude leaves church, becomes hipster/journalist
Done
@@oehnkcgood summarised of his story
@@oehnkc
Pretty accurate so far
I think it would be infinitely more interesting than play Joe Rogan bio. I mean everyone on RUclips nose Jose story. Almost feel upset knowing that Johnny wasted tons of time on a video like this when we could have gotten something so much more interesting..
@@BonsaiBuckeyeok, boomer.
I think one of the main reasons that Joe Rogan has such a wide appeal is the fact that the podcast isn’t about him. There are long stretches in the show where he doesn’t say a word. He lets his guest just talk. Joe is the representative for the audience. At the end of an episode you feel like you were the one talking to the guest. And because Joe knows what the audience wants, he’s able to ask all the right questions so that the audience feels properly represented.
1000%
Good catch to why Rogan is a big hit!!!
So basically he's allowing people to speak freely and that's a problem because the masses can't be trusted to agree and disagree with the right things.
Sometimes, it’s what people don’t say that speaks the loudest.
@@CT-vm4gf...
So you want to instead think for people?
@@kaushalbarka9404 YES. Me personally. I will think for us all... FOREVER!
Love how this started out as a Joe Rogan video, and then turned into 10 reasons why you hate Alex Jones😂
RIGHT??? like wtf was thaaatt
Lmao I thought the same thing, buddy could’ve made an entire separate video just out of that
And let's do another video of how many times Alex Jones has been right...
I like how he roasts Alex Jones multiple times by saying hes doing all of this to sell his powder. Meanwhile this guy has a 2 minute nord vpn ad praising it and saying they are the best company ever. Soooo this video was only made to promote an ad and get paid? Theres no double standard here??
To be fair, it’s very easy to hate on Alex Jones
I would argue that letting crazy people talk for hours is a great thing. You can see how stupid they are. If you cant, youre already lost. I value Joe a lot cause he does not judge people just from heresay.
I was looking for this
Exactly!
I hate censoring people, and everyone’s ideas should be given a microphone no matter how crazy.
💯
@@The_Adam_Smith_Simp This is such a stupid take. Why don’t we put schizophrenics screaming about chemtrails on the evening news? Why don’t we let 3rd graders present their science projects at academic conferences? Information exchange without standards muddies the waters to the point of making it all useless. Not all opinions are created equal. The sad truth is that most people are too stupid to discern fact from fiction and just in case you’ve been living under a rock for the past decade, misinformation has become one of society’s biggest problems.
Yeah his whole video critique is pretty flawed. He should have just made a video about Alex Jones.
This quickly went from a video about joe rogan to why anyone you disagree with shouldnt be allowed to talk and how terrible alex jones is lmao 😂
He treats Joe as a news source but he’s just a dude on the internet
Shows that Johnny Harris is part of the echo chMber problem and nothing more. I've unsubbed.
Glad i'm not the only one who noticed. Had the video on as background noise while i do stuff, halfway through the video i was like wait a minute... something ain't right here.
JRE would not be JRE without controversial guests. Johnny is a gatekeeping lefty statist.
Facts he went for the negative interview out of 2000 interviews. Then went on a 5 minute rant😂he lost me fr.
Sheltering the world from people with bad ideas helps no one. These people exist and most are not famous. It’s good to see them and try to understand if they do or do not have a valid point (This is my job not anyone else’s ). This is what adults have to do in a complex world. It’s better then censorship!
I find joe's ability to let people talk is one of the main reasons I like his show. Crazy people will expose themselves if you let them talk.
Exactly right,
in my opinion it's ironic that the blind spot, or the falacy seems to be with johnny harris himself, as he thinks that some people don't seem to deserve a platform, and suprisingly they are all right leaning, which is what a lot of liberals seem to think
the fact that joe doens't seem to differentiate between left idiots and right idiots makes hime genuine, wheras johnny clearly has a hierachy in opinion, which ultimately clouds his mind as well.
They only expose themselves to people who aren't susceptible to their bullshit. Not everyone listening is thinking critically, which is why there needs to be push-back so insane conspiracy theories and outright lies aren't just spread unchecked. How many who agree with Joe about the silencing effect of "woke mobs" chuckled along with McInnes' story of assaulting protesters without considering how antithetical that is to free speech?
@@Pykenike1 That's so reductive it's like you didn't watch the video. Candace Owens is a right-winger, Harris praises the value of getting to listen to her just speak. The people he is most critical of being platformed aren't just right-leaning, they're far right, and in the case of Alex Jones they already have a platform they use to spread lies and batshit insane conspiracy theories. Having him on is just giving him a bigger platform. If Joe can draw the line at Trump, it's fair to ask why not people like Jones?
this. I think this went over Johnny's head
Except Joe clearly holds a right leaning bias currently, he just follows what's popular and that's popular at the moment. Just like how when Trump was president it was much more mainstream to be left leaning. It's all just bullshit noise distracting us from the real problems in our country,
You lost the plot entirely when you said Joe Rogan's politics lean mostly left. Not only has he gone back on a lot of those principles (he now thinks universal basic income is bad because his buddy who owns a bar would need to pay his employees fairly), but he refuses to support anyone who wants to implement those policies. Currently he openly supports Ron DeSantis, who is more than happy to take all of those things he claims to support away.
agree
You do realise the Man says these are just his opinions based on what he's read. And had no interest in affecting or publicly supporting anyone in politics...
@@tumimbasa1705I see nothing wrong with this post in regards to that.
It seems like he switched to Trump recently.
@@tumimbasa1705 Which man are you referring to, Joe or Johnny? Because Joe most certainly does support candidates, and if you're talking about Johnny, then what you wrote has nothing to do with my comment.
I think the importance of Joe Rogan's approach to not sensoring certain people really gives us the audience key insights into how people think, no matter how bad their views are, and if we are objective and educated viewers we can learn something about the trauma and psychology of said 'bad' people and hopefully we can learn more perspectives, which could eventually lead to more harmony through understanding and using communication as a powerful tool. People who are shoved into 'good' or 'bad' often get trapped in their own bubbles so nothing really changes, Joe seems to be bridging the gap objectively.
I think that’s a great point and I think it brings up a really interesting question about what freedom of the press means in the modern age. I see a lot of talk about free speech in these comments, and that is certainly part of the discussion but it seems to focus more on the individual’s right to say what they want. Freedom of press is very similar, but I think has an added layer of whether a platform with an audience and presumed credibility should be allowed to do certain things… anyway I’m on a tangent but I totally agree with you, I think it’s important to understand people who are contrary to your beliefs even in the most extreme cases, but sometimes I worry about the sort of cult of personality around certain people like Rogan or Andrew Tate or so many others (pls don’t crucify me if you like them those are just the first ones that came to mind lol). It’s like on the one hand I totally agree that we should all have a right to the press and to say what we want, but I also can’t shake the feeling that sometimes stuff like this could be harmful bc there a people who will follow a celebrity’s or influencer’s words blindly, even when they bring someone on their show who, to most educated and objective people, is very clearly extremist/untrustworthy/out of their mind/etc.
I appreciate and like all of what you said! I also feel the need to push back a little. Or at least, give a response to the part of you that is concerned about people who are influenced by celebrities.. and the like.
To me, it follows that similar path that politicians/governments ride. To be concerned for weaker minded and 'lower' caliber types of people (to put it bluntly). This concern seems to come from a good place, except it presumes some people shouldn't have access to all the same information. Or that it's better we all have the same type of information , so some people aren't led astray. If that doesn't send a shiver down your spine or all of that seems well and good, let me give an example. Bringing it back to the political path I think of...
Let's imagine what acting on our concerns for the easily influenced plays out! We do our best to minimize the audience radical outliers get (not shut them up. We would never want to actual SILENCE someone. We sure aren't going to label it that way). How do we decide who is a radical outlier? Maybe the thought is, it's obvious! Well, if it IS obvious then the concern to limit a radical's reach makes zero sense. Unless we believe most people are weak minded and need to be taken care of for their own good. At which point we've arrived at the actual reason for limiting certain kind of speech: fear of allowing people who think and believe in ways we detest, take over and even worse... what is "right" becomes a minority and the end of it all... our safety and security were jeopardized by allowing the majority to rule.
Basically... we got to let all sides talk and remember we all don't have it right. That's why we need EVERYONE to have their voice. Not necessarily have their voice announced but legitimately let them HAVE their voice.. to say what they will. Consequences abound. So when the crazies get to drumming... remember there is a you, me, mom, dad, sis, bro or any fucking joe noticing how crazy the beat is :) @@morgangoodman2898
He is overthinking this. Joe Rogan is entertaining, has interesting guests, and if Alex Jones speaks, I think of it as a clown show. If someone out there believes everything Candance or Alex say, their problems go really deep and Joe is not moving the needle either way.
A hundred years from now they will be able to watch historical figures talk shit with Joe Rogan. I envy them.
Should’ve been titled “my JRE application” my man’s was glazing him up the whole time. like damn bro
😂😂😂
Fr though 🤣
This needs to be pinned. Johnny saying Joe "sells contrarianism" when Joe is the most prominent mainstream reactionary political channel on youtube had me rolling.
jonny Harris is Biden
Pathetic. No mention of the founder of the Proud Bous, all the assault apologists, anti trans activists. Johnny Harris is a Joe Rogan Revisionist
The one thing I actually like about Joe is that he lets his guests talk. I watch based on who the guest is.
So everyone else sits and just listens?
@@jamesg8203 he doesn't cut them off. He allows them to say what they want and get out a full thought.
@@amandamccallum6796 I see youre very small minded
Same, or a guest I have come to not like, I'll watch to get an unfiltered view of them, and over the years it's wild how much the media has contorted people going against their agenda.
@@amandamccallum6796I think that guy is just trolling you lol
Remember Johnny, you can edit and go over your content. Joe is live!!
Bro went through the stages of grief when he talked about AJ
he is missing the point entirely - none of us use joe rogan is news - i am a fan and we all KNOW he is a fruitcake with strange science ideas but he is still entertaining
I think the rogan issue is that people think we are hanging on every word of his. We like him as an interviewer. He’s knowledgeable as hell and able to ask great questions.
Alex Jones is my FAVORITE guest. I'll drop everything to see that podcast.
So this guys biggest critique is freedom of speech?
he starts with "its good to have a platform for freedom of speech", and then goes to "anyone who disagrees with me is not a freedom of speech".. Johnny Harris is a joke, he is the same Woke Police he kept mentinoing about.
yeah actually a pretty dumb take to say some people shouldn't be allowed to have a voice lol. Then you completely miss the point of Joe's podcast.
he says that fact checking the stuff that is being said is dangerous for such a big audience, which it is
Everyone deserves the right to speak, it should be left to the individual to choose whether or not to agree, disagree or to be offended, no one should have to power to make this decision on our behalf.
You didnt finish the video.
I've loved Joe since I was a kid. I don't always agree with him but I appreciate his willingness to have a discourse with anybody and everybody.
He’s great at boosting right wing propaganda
@lopoa126 And some would argue he's good at boosting left wing propaganda. Like Johnny points out in this video, I think he's largely uninterested in one particular mind set.
I wonder which one is worse...@@thomasburns6289
@@Yakoaxxi Vladimir Putin is right wing and Kim Jong Un is left wing. They are as bad as each other.
It says a lot about society that this is bot unique and a break from reality
The idea that people we don't agree with should be silenced or are dangerous for society is disgusting. As a self proclaimed journalist you failed
Seriously this lost me on this channel
Opinion is not objective
He is overthinking this. Joe Rogan is entertaining, has interesting guests, and if Alex Jones speaks, I think of it as a clown show. If someone out there believes everything Candance or Alex say, their problems go really deep and Joe is not moving the needle either way.
Joe Rogan's value is the long-form podcast format. Listening to someone for 2+ hours really allows us to get inside people's heads, which is unlike a 5 minute interview on mainstream media channels that will only provide very rehearsed sound bites. Rogan is also good in that he brings a humble "everyman" persona to intellectual conversations that is very approachable. Finally, putting people like Alex Jones on is still valuable in that we should be able to get some insight into how/why someone like Jones - obnoxious as he is - still have a very large and loyal audience himself. It's important that we try to understand that, or at least acknowledge it.
Agreed. Johnny totally forgot that a podcast is not the news and is not intended to be a source of information, but rather as a source of entertainment
Yes. This video makes some good points but illustrates why people like Alex Jones needed a voice. I'm not a fan of Alex but even this video made a case off some video clips which, while true were selected from thousands of hours of Alex's content. To be sure, we can't take everything on a podcast at face value but watching someone converse unscripted for a few hours gives us a sense of what kind of person they are.
johnny harris has shown his true colors as a grifter
deep
He's gonna start his right wing grift next
that CIA funding running dry
@@BPrimeTimeL LOL - hope you don't mind if I borrow that line in the future...
How can this video end with a monologue about the importance of fighting misinformation but have ZERO mention of how much COVID and vaccine misinformation he still continues to spread? It would’ve been better to send the podcast an email asking to be on then act like this video was some kind of accurate assessment of what the show has become.
i like how each comment is different, either joe's great, harris is terrible, harris is great, joe is terrible, joe is a voice of reason, joe spreads misinformation, harris misunderstood joe. its interesting. i dare say tho both rogan and harris are mostly a force for good and when people talk negatively about both it's mostly nitpicking. that being said, they both probably get some shit wrong at the same time they get shit right
can you quote the vaccine misinformation? All I remember is he said the mRNA vaccines didn't seem effective, which was proven correct as they barely prevented infection, in fact in many studies was found to be ineffective as a vaccine entirely and served more as slightly preventative. The Ivermectim thing sure... no one approved the medicine for use on COVID but it's been previously used with results on COVID like virus/illness
Yeah I know. The vaccines were safe and effective. End of story.
@@oui2611 nah they're both bad and at least I understand why people flock to someone like Jordan P. (and to a lesser extent Johnny lol, but if you don't get your information spoonfed through videos/podcasts and know how to read studies, know places to access verifiable information, etc. you'll realize all three are dumbasses to the 9th degree. harris at least has like a 50/50 chance of being right though so not the worst option.
@@oui2611Not liking Joe Rogan for spreading COVID and vaccine misinformation for years is nitpicking???
By the way, keep these amazing videos coming. I love these and look forward to them. I’ve had so many debates, not arguments, because of your channel which I enjoy because it allows everyone to air their views and have a proper discussion about the questions that are asked.
First time viewer, rogan fan. Agree with you, I also think there’s a lot of value when you just let people talk about whatever they want for a long time. I also think his podcast is one of the closest ones to truth because it feels authentic. Thank you for the great video, I like the idea of uncensored journalism.
First time Joe Rogan watcher, Johnny Harris fan. I’d heard a lot of negative stuff about Rogan over the years so I was interested to see what this would be about. Of course I’m sure it’s not the same as just listening to his podcast without a journalist commentator, but I was pleasantly surprised! I get why people feel like his podcast is authentic and I really respect how he approaches controversial topics with open mindedness. Like your comment :)
the problem with this video Johnny made is he did not support free speech from people he judges unworthy...
Joe letting people talk is his best quality.. Its crazy thats your biggest critique
Cause bro is massively bigoted as a grown adult😂
@@turnitdownboog7191 Whether true or not, wtf does him being "massively bigoted" have to do with him allowing so many people on his show to speak their minds? wtf are you talking about?
@@turnitdownboog7191Ok Hillary 😂
Johnny Harris is paid and sponsored by the World Economic Forum. He is a propagandist.@@ABirchwoodVampire
@@ForTheOmnissiah talking about the Mf who made this video y’all really tweaked out
It honestly surprises me that Johnny didn't already know this about Rogan, he's an absolute powerhouse. He doesn't care who you are or where you're from, he'll be polite and respectful to anyone who just wants to have a talk.
weird he hasn’t had an actual Egyptologist, or any lefty’s not the usual reactionaries who criticizes liberal and democrats type. Hasn’t had Abby Hoffman in ages too.
@@AloisWeimarWould they still go on?
He lies. He's jealous of Rogan I guess
Of course he doesn't care who you are or where you're from because you'll generate money for him if you're interesting enough. If there's one thing JR loves it's money, money, money
That’s how it supposed to be when your running a podcast on conversations n not debates
Excellent points by many people. I just like to add that I learned more about Andrew Yang & Bernie Sanders from his 2 podcasts than literally all tv shows combined.
I'm new here I'm glad I finally found you I'll do what I can to help I can probably afford the poster right now but after watching your video on the economy and recessions, yeah I'm struggling, but after watching this video on Joe Rogan who I dislike but now I have a much better understanding of his brand. So I'm willing to do what I can buy buying one of your world posters. Thank you for doing this and I look forward to listening to more of your content
The Alex Jones episode was one of my favorites. Pure comedy gold.
Me and my friend at work both told each other "Bro ALEX JONES IS ON JRE" when it came on haha
Agree, best thing on the internet
Yup. I find him very entertaining. I think he's off he's rocker, but he's entertaining nonetheless. Joe has even said multiple times that he thinks Alex is playing a character and he doesn't buy his insanity.
According to Johnny everything must be fact checked and can't just be what it is... an entertaining podcast.
hours long and when it was over, I was sad.
brain worms? I google'd it... yeah.. million of people have it. And that's at the beginning of that episode, where it's sane. Then shit goes wild. Shame how Alex Jones is banned, when he and his topics should be openly debated. If nothing else, that man can entertain.
Joe Rogan has put a show that is so long that people can't hide behind talking points. It's a show that allows you true insight into who the person is or at least gives you the broad idea. It's an equal platform that anyone can speak on. That's the greatest part. On top of that Joe is there questioning their ideas and wondering how their thought process works.
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence.
@@filipgasic2642expand on that maybe?
@@filipgasic2642You get vastly less consequences if you're on the left
True, also it's for anyone to decide what they like, or believe watching on his show... that's the power of JRE, no pre-judgement and no censoring just cause somebody has a different opinion.
people who whine about the left but mean liberals and have a victimization complex about being a reactionary are so impotent
You know, I subscribed, what an amazing journalism you’re doing!
"Life a tragedy to those who feel, and a comedy to those who think."
(A quote I learned from Joe Rogan that I got from listening to one of his Podcast.)
The best part of a free and open discourse is that no one person, not me, Not you, get to decide what is PRODUCTIVE and GOOD discourse. It blows my mind when people think they are somehow positioned to dictate what should and shouldn't be said. Everyone gets an opinion, the racists, blm, proud boys, boy scouts of America, everyone. It's a right enshrined in the constitution. Who cares if a weird dude or two go on rogan??? If the ideas are bad, they will be stamped out by lack of adoption. If YOU think they are bad, (and some definitely are) doesn't mean you should feel entitled even to feel like you could prevent the ideas from being shared.
Hear, hear 👏
thank god someone said it. johnny championing openness, then wants to decide what shouldn't even be heard. we can decide for ourselves who is a nutter that deserves to be ignored, and who knows, maybe we can even learn something by hearing someone saying things we disagree with. none of us knows it all, we are all learning and growing (hopefully)
Nah, actually you don't have to and shouldn't give nazis a platform on your hugely popular, giant platform to spew propaganda. Hot take I know.
How can I like this more, that is exactly what I wanted to say. He was almost leaning into being barr of the cancel culture.
100%
Johnny is really smart and great at telling stories. I respect him and appreciate his effort to spread what he believes is the truth. However let´s not forget that he has been criticized several times before by fellow youtubers and journalists for oversimplifying information and wrapping "facts" to his own personal views / thoughts, which might help with spreading misinformation. Seems to me that this video is a bit hypocritical tbh.
Yeah there was a lot of bias in this video. He did state he is biased though.
100% agree !
"I'm a journalist. Sharing fake facts is a cardinal sin" lmao Johnny's hypocrisy is showing up slowly day by day. Keep doing this Johnny, we'd like to see your true colour.
Agreed
On his part, he did apologize and changed quite a few things including employing fact checkers. While Joe Rogan just nods his head while his guest tells lie after lie. Joe is mostly clueless.
“Not everyone who has a point of view and is famous has ideas worth hearing or debating.” I actually agree with this with the exception being that when the idea they put forward turns out to be right, when everyone was so sure when they said it, it was wrong. A guy like Alex Jones occasionally says things very interesting and accurate. Miley Cyrus however, doesn’t.
i can't count the so many good traits i find here on this channel. thank you johnny for being part of my mind
This is an application to be on JRE for sure 😂
It's honestly painfully embarrassing, I've always liked Johnny's stuff but this is Matt Taibbi levels of sucking up.
@@chrishird21nah Hes right
@@chrishird21 what
Doubt Joe wants some random NPR wannabe youtuber on his show
@@chrishird21 Johnny is criticising Joe in the video, this is not some desperate plea
"I spend every day of my life making sure that the things I tell you are factually accurate. If I get something wrong, it's a cardinal sin" - Well, you just spent a good chunk of the video talking about Rogan's "leftist politics", disdain for Trump, and how we'd never have him on the show. Meanwhile Joe Rogan has been publicly supporting Trump as a candidate all summer and has in fact teased getting him on the show. Talking about Joe Rogan's statements from 2016 and omitting everything he's been up, especially in the past 3 years is a very strange journalist technique I must say.
Yeah couldn't agree more. This video is completely out of touch with reality to the point it feels like a grift.
Claiming Joe wouldn't have Trump on is the quickest way of telling me that he watched a max amount of 100 hours of his stuff, mostly older stuff probably.
@@iansane1928 you don't get invited to the show unless you get on Joe's radar. Maybe this will do it. He certainly tried, a lot.
Do you actually watch his podcasts? It’s seems like people who only see clips make a lot of bullshit assumptions. I wish all of you would pick someone else to obsess over and let his fans go back to enjoying his show in peace.
@@wildemthefem5773 But sir, how would they get paid for their negative comments if they stopped pretending to have watched the show?
absolutely love your videos man!!!! such a good job on this one
I used to be an avid JRE listener for the same reasons you mentioned. Now I’m more selective about what I listen. Not because of the easily rebuttable ideas from the likes of Allen Jones, but because the repetitive ideas and guests. When occasionally new experts and ideas get presented, it makes me appreciate how much SOME of his guests helped me to challenge the boundaries of my reality and paradigm. Johnnys contents have very strong narratives of his own, which comes with its format. Whereas JRE guests often disagree with and challenge Rogan, and this video is a great reminder that I should play that role when watching Johnny. Thank you for that.
The idea that joe Rogan is a some right wing extremist is absolutely insane, he actually pulled me towards the left to the point that I became a moderate democrat after being a republican. Now with the parties shifting so much recently I’m stranded in the middle, but Rogan was great for getting me away from being a right wing partisan. I’m thankful to Rogan for making me a more compassionate balanced person. He’s number 1 for a reason
Thoughts had by ignorant people
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@@circusbrains hes spot on dude. Did you not just watch the video? The words came right out of his mouth dude it’s amazing how some people can deny the truth when it’s right in front of them.
In a few months you will not know which gender you are 😂
@@EmanEgnarts-that’s left wing extremist ideology. Ironic the left calls the right ‘extreme’ while they’re extreme themselves 😂
thing is that Joe Rogan governs his opinions using his principles rather than political views. His views might seem "all over the place" if you're weighing them against mainstream political cateogries, but if you boil his views down to their core principles, he has been incredibly consistent.
agreed, "all over the place" didn't really resonate with me, he's just honest and authentic, something that is severely lacking in general from media and personalities.
I beg to differ. his opinions on medical science are extremely naive and that stance *is* political.
@@popmonkey he's increasingly improving his knowledge on that too, as he said himself, he tries to correct mistakes
@@camatrusaca that's good to hear
@@mashmods it did with me and well at first but after a while I realized who he reminded me of.
my fellow white male Gen X ers who might still call themselves libertarians except "independent free thinker" sounds better despite all of them having exactly the same "authentic" views. naive views that can only come from a life of privilege that until recently they wouldn't even admit to.
I'm glad to see that he learns as he gets older. but he still seats Kennedy Jr in the same seat as deGrasse Tyson.
Just discovered Johnny Harris' YT channel... i've been missing out. Thank you
"There is so much value in letting them talk" yeah, so true.
The problem with censorship is that different people have different criteria for who should be censored. There is not a fine line between "should censor" and "should not censor" and why would anyone's opinion be more valid than someones else.
We censor things all the time. For example, you can't publish an article calling Johnny Harris a N*zi without getting his with a lawsuit for slander, which it is.
Thank you for saying this! I feel too many pro censorship people forget that there is no clear line on who should be censored.
When your opinions are hurtful on a large scale you should be censored
@@filipgasic2642 Hurtful to who? Your opinion is hurtful to everyone who is an advocate for free speech, so using your logic (hurtful on a large scale), you should be censored.
@@filipgasic2642no absolutely not. A large number of people find the LGBT community hurtful, should they be censored? I don’t think so.
Can someone make a fact check compilation on Johnny Harris please
Tom Nicholas did a full analysis of Johnny Harris' china video. (which was totally not sponsored by WTO)
Why you’re wrong about Johnny Harris.
Well that would take too long there are too many lies in every video.
seems like something you want, so you should do
@@thehatmaniac6958 Tom did a decent job of pointing out his flawed sources but he didn't debunk it completely. There is another youtuber named BadEmpanada who debunked that video properly
"Not everyone who has a point of view and who is famous has ideas worth hearing or debating in our society. I really believe that" And Johnny Harris shares a key part of his own philosophy. THis is not a man who is open minded and has a very specific bias in his work online.
If a point of view leads to a part of society losing it's ability to speak freely, then this point of view must be considered an exception to free-speech. Simple.
@@mitoo4880 Hogwash. Speech doesn't lead to a part of society losing it's ability to speak freely without turning into action. Actions can be limited, but speech - no.
It's a misunderstanding of Popper's Paradox of Tolerance. If you can't combat those supposed bad ideas with better ones, then you probably don't have a better idea.
If there are exceptions to free speech, then it's not free speech. Period.
@@RichardChappell1 just look where it's going.
This is free speech Kremlin-style, This is free-speech as in lying is authorized.
You think it's good because it has the word "free" in it.
@@RichardChappell1 We need a legal kind of free-speech.
You are not allowed to lie in court.
Free-speech is useless if anyone can lie.
It's just a word that looks good.
@@mitoo4880 Wow. You really don't understand the concept of free speech do you?
People can and do lier in court all the time - including lawyers. Prosecuting lawyers do it often to trip people up in their testimony. Cops do it all the time to get people to confess to things. Politicians do it constantly. The FDA and public health officials lied constantly throughout the pandemic. Activists lie to manipulate people all the time. Teachers lie to their students - both intentionally and unintentionally.
You get caught bearing false withness in court there is a penalty due to the specific oath you take in the processdings. If you yell fire in a croweded theater which directly causes people to lose their life, you will be charged for directly causing the harm.
We have only very rare limitations on speech that the Supreme Court has judged do not substanitally infringe.
You are advocating a tyranny where someone decides what is truth and puishes people for different ideas. There are other societies who enact such policies. All of them are considered a stain on history.
It's funny that you do not see the hypocrisy of your argument. Here is the essence of what you (and Johnny) are calling for: "We need to limit speech if I think they will limit someone else's speech."
You basically violate your own principle just by stating it.
Adore this ending, whole thing was on point
Can’t wait for the joe rogan Johnny Harris episode! I hope you’re gonna be able to ignore COVID conspiracies in person as well as you do on the internet!
The conspiracy that said the jabs prevent transmission and infection? Have you seen the report that the new variant is more likely to infect those that have been vaccinated? Joe was correct more often than the CDC.
And while I don't know the efficacy of using Ivermectin for the 'vid I do know that it is one of the most prescribed medications ever and that the guy who discovered it won the nobel prize in medicine. It is also used as a horse dewormer, it's so versatile. Any news organization that stated it was a horse dewormer without including the uses in humans shows you clearly they are propagandizing you.
I'm waiting too. That's gonna be interesting.
doubt it, as much as I'd want to see that pod, Rogan's said before he doesn't pay attention to online critics
@@8megadeth666 online critics? Bro this is a puff piece
Such as it coming from a lab? Or is that accepted as a mainstream theory now?
Definitely didn't watch a jre episode after 2019 because this is absurd
I didnt watch it either... why is it absurd?
@@asarim-de-roJoe had a complete 180 in his political views
@@lollmaoimcoolno he hasn’t. He has always believed in freedom and loving all types of people. The left used to believe in free speech, bodily autonomy and acceptance of all kinds of people. All he’s done is realized that the game has changed.
@@lollmaoimcool How bout u reflect on yourself? its obvious the paradigm has shift. the left doesnt care about people. Its just control. I dont want to argue with you cause your mental state alone from thinking that must be on the otherside of the universe
people keep saying that.... with no evidence. HE didn't switch sides. he saw that the Left is NOT on our side. Nor the right
@@lollmaoimcool
Such a thoughtful dive into the responsibility of sharing your megaphone. Thanks, Johnny!
the noise clips of him making bear noises is hilarious
Joe’s long form interview style is desperately needed in our media environment. Mass media treat viewers like they are simpletons. The fact that Joe gets more viewers to watch his show that almost every TV show (other than the Super Bowl and other huge sporting events) goes to show how hungry viewers are for real conversations.
Joe never interviewed anybody in his entire life. He has 3 hour long conversations where he never pushes back (or hardly) shares a lot of weird conspiracies and just goofed around. Highly entertaining but not an interview
We are in the golden era of podcasts. Lex Fridman is another thought provoking podcast host. You’ll never get long form discussions in big media “entertainment news” channels
He has a unique way of pulling stories from guests and asks questions. Definitely an interview.
@@MrJimheerenthe guest is the star really Rogan is just there to kinda prod them along really, he’ll switch up the direction of the convo or some shit if he feels he needs to occasionally but the guest is more of the focus
@@Allen667sjja I don’t know about you. But I’ve heard the the same dozen stories Rogan likes to tell at least a 100 times. Chimp’s, LSD, some fight stories, something that happened on stage the standard Rogan drill
Listening to people you disagree with is crucial. You cannot argue in good faith without knowing what you're arguing with.
it is so basic. i couldn´t agree more
I agree so much
True, although I think Johnny’s criticism is valid. Balance isn’t always better. If you invite one scientist who endorses vaccines and one antivaxer, you create a false sense of equal legitimacy.
I guess thats the benefit of bringing on over what, 1500 guests now?
As many things in life, I feel it depends a lot on context.
A good faith debate about a topic with a lot of uncertainty or equipoise? Sure, any day of the week.
But a yelling match where uoure making claims without any attempt at evidence... I can only give so much time.
But not to worry, I don't feel the need to convince everyone of my beliefs. So while I may not want to hear someone scream that gravity is a conspiracy... I'm not gonna bother to get them to believe otherwise.
Absolutely love how u broke this down. Esp that I listen to the JRE and watch u that I agree with you 💯
as a Swiss i couldn't not notice the 3d relief map behind ya! haha
oh yes, the only valid criticism of joe rogan is that he's too curious. what ground-breaking stuff here
Yep, seems par for the course.
How DARE we platform people who have different ideas! How dangerous! :) I am glad that his amount of supporters show that reason is winning, and reason takes time, and discourse. People just want to be fed comfortable, simple answers that agree with them.
@@carpo719totally. Promoting anti-science cranks and conspiracy theorists and anti-trans hate is totally just being "too curious". Let's give these people as big of a microphone as possible as since these "free thinkers" has such "ground breaking" ideas for our society 😂
@carpo719 the whole point is its not about platforming people with differing opinions its about platforming people with EXTREME fringe opinions that are so beyond conspiracy that you can't possibly be informed on the topic enough to create any real "intelligent discourse" this entire thing is meant to create. I like Joe but not even just the conspiracy stuff I remember he believed a guy who said he ran a marathon with both his legs broken and would train everyday until something broke and would still get back up as if we are in a fucking anime because there is no real way to disagree with him other than "that's too crazy to be real" and he'll say "but it is real". "Wow!"
The problem isn't that that Rogan has different ideas. This video is a wildly incomplete and misleading representation of who Rogan is now.
I was a big fan of JRE, this is not who he is anymore. He actively promotes and spreads misinformation. The people he gives a voice to are (more often than not) pseudo-scientists, transphobic conspiracy theorists, and self-proclaimed nazis. Rogan literally had a significant role in the promotion of anti-vax movements.
If these are the "different" ideas you want out there, then yes, it IS dangerous.@@carpo719
🎉🎉🎉🎉 finally some with brains 🧠
johnny skipped over the shitshow era of Milo, stephen molyneux and the other alt-right that joe rogan gave platform too.
Gives* he’s a right wing puppet now
Oh god cry more. He's also had the most ridiculous left-leaning socialist people in the country on his "platform" too.
Yeah. Right. “Gave platform to.”
@@jbp122 Rogan was 100% the primary factor for Milo blowing up. To deny that would be crazy lol.
@@colehelvey4547 This is an insane comment. By that own right Rogan is 100% the primary factor as to why Milo was silenced entirely.
I appreciate your willingness to explore and present all the arguments both the good and the bad. It's something quite rare in today's discourse and something that I personally struggle with when forming an opinion; for me it's either black or white (unconsciously). But some of the things you said made me realize that it's a flawed way of thinking and I have to work on challenging it. Who knew that a video about Joe Rogan could make me reevaluate the way I approach forming an opinion? lol
I was just thinking the same thing! Recently I’ve been thinking about how media can be really dividing bc so much of media, whether it’s social media or the news or whatever, thrives on controversy and anger. I’ve been trying to become more aware of how much I engage with controversy-bate on social media because I’m tired of the algorithm feeding me things that will make me upset like opposing political opinions and such. I’m on a rant lol but anyway I think we would all benefit so much more from making an effort to really understand each other and see the layers and complexities of each side of an argument, and it’s really refreshing to see that
Hi Johnny, great episode. Would love to know your view on The Diary of a CEO podcast. Similar views to Joe Rogan's podcast?
I used to watch the channel diary of a CEO which exposes information about whole foods vs Carbs and how the politicians and lobbyist are in each other's pockets using tax payer's money to poison us with their chemically made toxins whilst trying to drive farmers out of business... However after all the information he collected and exposed about corrupt government globalist corporate agenda's he turned around and said that free speech is hate speech on twitter so I stopped watching and unsubscribed!
Joe Rogan is proof that sincerity reaches more audience than journalistic protocol.
Edit: What I meant by "sincerity" is that he doesn't let someone else's agendas control what he says. And I know he is not a journalist. But established journalist outlets do seem to regard him as a competitor--which is why they seek to eliminate him.
Joe Rogan and sincerity go in opposite directions.
He is sincere in the questions he asks, but not in his views and opinions
So the best podcasts of his, are usually with the best guest speakers
He is a good interviewer who lets his guest speakers shine, so that's good about him
Op is delusional 😂😂
@@It-b-Blairfound the crazy leftist
@@daemoneko how is he not sincere? if he believes what he's saying, even if you don't agree, then he is being sincere. lol
Next: "Why you're wrong about Tim Pool" 😂
“Tim isn't a right wing grifter, he's just a normal guy that loves free speech and freedom. I may have a few minor disagreements with his politics, but the more I listen to him, the more I can relate to his worldview. He may get into many passionate debates, but under his tough exterior, he's really just such a nice dude that also has impeccable taste in head wear.”
- Johnny Harris, probably
Dude the problem is that Joe Rogan has lost his way, he's surrounded himself with conmen, liers, grifters and/or Right wingers. He has stopped being unbias and actually talking about both sides with some facts/reality. He's literally just thrown all reasoning out the window and went full conspiracy, Joe wasn't always this one sided. Getting old and COVID must have some serious affects on the brain.
When you only hear one side, where most of it is actual disinformation and verifiably false, you actually start believing the world is a certain way, even if everything else says otherwise. Cognitive dissonance and bias are very strong with most of us @@dotxyn
@@dotxyn I literally cannot tell satire anymore.
@@Cryptix001 It's okay to misunderstand, just like Ol' Timmy boy is misunderstood
@@dotxyn "he's just a normal guy that loves free speech and freedom" literally can't read that without hearing it in the Joker's voice.
Thank you Jonny you are so professional and I can see how much journalism is important to you
this video is a fail, he is just going with the pre cavid rogan and just overlooked the development of jr in the last years
This was me of your best videos by a long shot. You’re awesome Johnny!
Peak liberalism right here
Apparently, Johnny Harris has declared himself the arbiter of who does and doesn't have ideas worth hearing. He has also decided the Proud Boys, with their many Hispanic and African-American members, are a far-right white supremacist group. Yep, peak liberalism.
the comment section is up there with the video too
It hurt my brain
Spend almost 20 minutes being reasonable and discussing Joe’s background, then leftist gene kicks in .
Yeah pretty leftist
The riding and boot licking on this one is crazy lol
Without an open mind then all we have left is a closed mind that will latch on to the nearest, emotionally attractive thought
I just started watching your channel and really like your honesty and truth finding approach to the subjects you cover.
So basically, Johnny’s criticism of joe, is that he allows anyone to talk freely? That’s what I understood from this video, which leads me to think that Johnny would like a world where everyone is background checked to make sure what they say is correct according to Johnny. I don’t know about you, but that sure raises my eyebrows
Sounds pretty accurate
Very establishment-esque. Not surprising from a former mormon.
seriously
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence.
@@filipgasic2642 That has nothing to do with what was said and thats a stupid statement, freedom of speech does mean freedom of consequence otherwise its not free speech.
Joe Rogan invites both the left and the right. He also invites scientists and people he disagrees with. That makes his show very interesting.
The biggest problem with him is that he gives a very big platform to people who spread conspiracy theories and misinformation, and barely pushes back against them a lot of the time.
Being honest, conspiracies are fun. There are people who listen to conspiracies not for believing it but for entertainment, like me. @@FinneasJedidiah
@@FinneasJedidiahthere is no problem. You have a problem.
@@FinneasJedidiah Can we not trust people to make decisions on their own? What is the "right" opinion anyways?
He's developed a skill to keep him from eye rolling when a guest says what's absolutely BS.
Love the Alex impersonating, Johnny haha
We need more platforms that force us to listen to opinions that we do not agree with in an engaging way. The world is far to full of people who only listen to what reinforces what they choose to believe.
It's the mentality where we need to shut that down that is by far more dangerous than being exposed to a perspective you have the ability to agree with or not.
Johnny Harris fell for Joe’s chameleon interview style, and now believes he’s a leftist. 😂
"Like I always say..."
I’m pretty sure he said, he’s outside the box. Not ‘leftist’.
He said many of Joe's positions are left, ya fucking dingus
@@tactilefilehe specifically said Joe Rogan is in fact, extremely left leaning. Which is funny because he said that shorty after saying Joe doesn't fit into a box
@@gamergilbert4438 both can be true.
this guy is the reason why 1984 can be a reality
bro got called fat phobic and the reasoning was that he observed a woman that was larger than most women and said “that’s a large woman”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣This is some tweaker shit
frrrrrrrrrrrr
explain. i have no idea what you are trying to say.
Johnny Harris is paid and sponsored by the World Economic Forum. He is a propagandist.
@@krakcahe wants to take away freedom of speech for a certain group that being right wingers
One of my favorite things as life goes on is people increasingly realizing that there appears to be an infinite amount of nuance to life and us and our societies and whatnot, and seemingly most of those same people not knowing how to react to or live with that information
u really ambushed me with this one johnny. half way thru, BAM
I never watched JRE because I always thought it was just guys sitting around shooting the shit. Years ago, I happened to watch one of his videos with Dan Flores, IIRC, and they spent the entire time talking about coyotes and wolves. I've been a fan ever since. I'm not really into the shows with other comedians but when he interviews knowledgeable folks from other fields? One of the best to ever do it.
Yeah I love those types of guests. If you haven't seen the Paul Stammets episode yet it's one of my favorites. Guys a mycologist, aka mushroom expert. Mind blowingly cool episode imo.
I agree - I avoid the political episodes, but the episodes with scientists are some of the most amazing I’ve ever heard
The idea that people who have bad ideas shouldn’t be allowed space to talk is easily the most dangerous idea of them all.
100% agreed. Everybody deserves a platform. The right and only way to challenge any sort of misinformation is to present it openly and challenge it with evidence and facts. Silencing people only makes the issue worse.
I agree 💯
Agreed makes me question johnny harris integrity
He says quite plainly and multiple times that legally they should have the right to talk. He just thinks as a podcast host that it's irresponsible to have them on.
@@sunq8859That's not what JHarris said. It's way more nuanced than this.
My take on cancel culture is the following: It get's generalized too much. Imo there are at least 2 types of it: The one where people go on power trips because someone said sth they disagree with, for example when they made a joke on Twitter 10 years ago that didnt age so well - and the one where people want you to take responsibility for the stuff you're doing/promoting/ rethink your take.
Imo it wouldn't even that big of a deal if people would be able to forgive again. Nobody is perfect and we shouldn't expect anyone to be. If someone makes a mistake, owns up to it and apologizes publically I'm ready to forgive and forget because at the end of the day I would want the same treatment if I was on the opposite end of this discussion.
In an age where disinformation keeps the masses violently polarized, I truly appreciate the objectivity that Johnny & Joe present. Please keep it going! Gives me the strength to carry on
Having been a long time JRE listener since 2016ish this was hard to watch. I know it’s hard to summarize the last 6-8 years worth of work of someone else’s but this should’ve at least been an hour long to truly and honestly cover the impact of the guests he’s had on and the lack of adequate push back he’d give. Sure give everyone a voice but his flagrant disregard to challenge and push back is was infuriating but still I listened. Then all he had on were right wing reactionaries and slowly but surely stopped having older guests on. He just got boring so I tuned out after he turned into a bitter out of touch old man.
There is A LOT that was overlooked in this essay and the only thing I took away from this was that no, I’m not wrong about him.
So you want JR to critique and voice your opinions. Sounds like you found your box and the JRE is too a open a forum for you
@@drm4857 Joe is full echo-chamber nowadays. you won't find a left-wing opinion being voiced on the show post covid either by him or a guest. They're all conservative media-affiliated people now. it's been really sad to watch him abandon his principles, especially since he moved to texas.
@@drm4857 "JRE is too a open a forum for you" 😂😂 what kind of box are you in...wait "free thinkers" box I bet lol smh
are you going to copy anything else Hasan said?
@@jheden9386 do you have real arguments or just a hasan hate watcher
Hey, let me remind everyone people are allowed to say shit and be wrong. That's why people love Joe Rogan. That's why I watched Joe Rogan because I know I'm getting an unfiltered honest opinion and it doesn't matter if it's right or not.
“Doesn’t matter if it’s right or not”.
Well, that about sums it up doesn’t? Lol
@@ubcphysicsyangboim not allowed to think, waiting for left wing to tell me what to think
@@ubcphysicsyangbo🧑🦯🐑
What do you mean by allowed? By law? Or that it's morality okay for people to spout harmful conspiracy theories?
@@9justify but would you be willing to accept that you're wrong when proven? Because a lot of people don't care to acknowledge facts
it's the unveiling of what kind of people we are ....uncensored.. behind closed doors, now opening
. Enlightening.
13:52
UBI was also proposed back in the 1960's by the _father_ of neoliberalism: Milton Friedman. Btw, Friedman also favored _cap and trade_ as well.
Clips of the late Friedman are widely available on RUclips.
"Sometimes the best way to combat bad speech is to let that bad speech play out and let good speech overwhelm it with good logic and reason and a better argument."
This is the way to go Joe. The other ways have way worse outcomes.
you just said it, 'sometimes' only sometime. But most of the time, what happens is people creates bubble with same ideas they get influenced with. Social media platform adds fuel in those ideas, showing same narrative again and again. So we must confront when someone comes onto the show that has millions of reach and blatantly lies about what he/she is saying.
Johney seams to be trying to intelligently and intellectually silence / pressure joe from interviewing anyone who is a big No No by the MSM. If you are smart you can catch what I’m saying. Very sus
People have the right to listen to BS and enjoy some fantasy stories. No one said or thinks everything that comes on joe is correct, but we expect entertainment and watching the art of discussion
@@aseemlimbu7672 Social media is a group of people who just want their beliefs being confirmed not challenged, like seriously I watch tiktoks of an obviously conservative guy who I sometimes disagree prove with data sheets and facts that global warming is real, guess what? mfs still don't accept it despite of all of the facts, they think this a matter of beliefs. We need to listen to other people, the intelligent ones.
that's how bolsonaro became known. Going to gossip tv programs because his ideas were controversial and got them viewership. Now see the bad thing happened since then
Kinda wild that he put Jordan peterson and Alex Jones in the same category.
Not too wild.
What similarities do they have in terms of their message?@@esterhammerfic
There are so many wild things said in this video.
He says that he thinks it’s extremely important to let people talk even if you disagree with them and then goes on to say that Alex Jones should not be featured on the podcast because he disagrees with him.
a lot of videos discrediting johnny's videos with proof of misinformation (through omission), lack of cited sources, and poor interpretation of historical texts have come out in the past few years. i've watched them but gave them little thought. i genuinely thought i found a channel with little to no political bias and equal coverage of all sides. this video disappointed me with a lot of logical fallacies and unfair portrayals of people.
Yeah
How did JR come up with his logo? The eye?
Thank you again for keeping the level of RUclips high
Once again I find the confusion of Johnny Harris informing us of history and facts but videos like this are just this guys perspective of someone, we should watch everything with a critical eye.
I'm really happy this video exists. Just shows you even the 'Trustworthy' ones are full of lying shit and purposefully ommiting facts
I lost trust in him ever since he called Julian Assange an ''asshole''. Now i'm just checking in from time to time cause i think he might be controlled opposition.
I think the problem with your optics into this issue is you're looking at Rogan's show as if its something journalistic like yours. That he's trying to get to the truth of some matter or another.
That's not his purpose, his purpose is to allow these people to speak in an uninterrupted form for an extended time, and minimally guide the conversation to entertaining areas.
He is offering them a modern platform that could be considered the equivalent of what books where: a way for someone to express their ideas fully without having to go in circles explaining themselves to bad faith argumentors.
And it's important to do that even with people like Alex Jones. The interesting aspect to that kind of episode is: how does this human being think? If he almost convinced you of something (before you remembered oh yea it's Alex Jones, gotta fact check this garbage), it's just a testament to the fact that even these crazy people can make compelling stories, and if it's half as compelling to you over three hours, imagine how compelling it can be to themselves over their entire lifetime.
It's an amazing platform to learn to understand how these people think.
Also, the comment about "waking up and realizing it's Alex Jones and checking facts" is very presumptuous. You state it's a case of your daily job being to fact check things, but you're essentially implying that most people are too dumb to realize "hey, that's a crazy person".
Most people are smarter than most people think. Enough so, that most people think they're above average.
Spot on
Hit the nail on the head with this. Well said. Joe respects his listeners intelligence. If you got to the end of the Alex Jones episode and agreed with him, or were swayed by him significantly, there wasn't hope for you from the start.
Journalistic? This video wasn't journalistic at all
Best comment here
I dedicate my time to air and the northwest passage
About 10 minutes in and he's already made it clear 3 times that he's not a Joe Rogan viewer. We get it.
I believe the strongest attribute of Joe is the fact he NEVER takes a moral high ground in any conversation. This opens up possibilities for people to talk. When guests give good takes: good. When guests make bad takes: good, because then you'll learn to listen to people better and it's a skill we all would benefit to learn (as Joe's friend and fellow podcaster Lex Friedman says: to steelman the case).
No matter how stupid people are, listening is the MOST BASIC prerequisite to human communication and somehow larger media corpos forget how to simply... Talk. When interviewers disagree with their guests they just cut them off and vice versa which means two people are screaming at each other and not trying to find reason in their talking partner.
Johnny's believe to not give certain people platforms because he genuinely feels like it'll hurt people is noble, but I genuinely believe that'll make a domino effect that'll cause more censorship which'll finalize in something like North Korea's government or worse.
Debates are not decided simply by facts and logic, but also by one's humility, which translates to listening, which translates to being emotionally vulnerable, which leads to an understanding... Or tolerance.
For example, this is my personal belief but the reason why flat earthers are stalwart in their belief is not a cognitive problem, but an emotional problem. When people talk to flat earthers, they treat them like monkeys. Its like a sort of "I am superior, and your believes make me see you as subhuman" typeof attitude we give them that makes flat earthers so stubborn. We don't listen to them, we see them as shit, we scream at them instead of have a conversation with them, of course they don't listen. In their shoes, will we do different?
I don't know if people are reading this or not but I'm just writing this to get a grasp on how I think and feel about this video. Would be cool to have Johnny in JRE tho
I really like this response and it kinda covers everything I'd say about free speech and Joe Rogan's plaform.
This is what I was thinking when Johnny was critiquing Joe for having controversial people on.
Of course he does take the moral high ground lol. Ever heard him talk about transpeople?
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@@amogus1337-tw7wc more like bigoted Joe.
As someone who is clearly more on the right side of the political spectrum (here in Europe though), and having watched both Joe and Johnny since the beginning. Joe inviting these crazy and controversial guests has pulled me more to the center of the political spectrum than anything else in my life. Although I agree with 80% of what you have said in this video, I really disagree with not inviting certain guests because of what they say. As long as there is an overall balance between crazy and facts, I think this is a healthy thing. It helps me sort out who is actually crazy, and who is making a good point despite it maybe being "controversial".
Well put
Agreed
Sunlight is the best disinfectant for shitty ideas.
I completely disagree with Johnny Harris on the idea that people need to be silenced based on shitty beliefs.
Problem is, Joe doesn't confront some things he should. Alex Jones talking about alien ambassadors and government conspiracies is crazy and Joe either did not want to, or did not know how to, properly reason with him. Maybe people like Alex Jones cannot be reasoned with, such is the nature of the conspiranoic mind, maybe... But then, if there is no reason in the debate, why bring him on the show?
Fully agree with you, mate. I feel like this tends to be the stance of the less vocal (twitter or YT comments, etc) crowd. Perhaps I am wrong, but I feel like this idea of uninhibited discourse being a good thing perhaps appeals most to folks that don't care to engage in inane heated debates on the internet. And perhaps that's most people.
Love your videos. Excellent keep making very great videos.