VIRGIL HUNTER MENTOR OL' G BOB COMPARES MAYWEATHER, SUGAR RAY ROBINSON, JOE LOUIS, MUHAMMAD ALI
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- "That's debatable...Floyd is a good fighter, but I don't think Floyd was better than Sugar Ray Robinson...I don't think Floyd was a better fighter than Joe Louis, just like I don't think Muhammad Ali was a better fighter than Joe Louis...Muhammad Ali was not a complete fighter...he never threw a punch to the body...to me, that's incomplete," stated Bobby Warren, long-time trainer and mentor to Virgil Hunter, who shared his thoughts on how Floyd Mayweather stacked up to some of the all-time greats he witnessed throughout the years. Check it out!
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This man need to write a book so he can leave all that knowledge he has.
Virgil has the info 😉
More interviews like these please! Awesome stuff!
It's always good to hear the O.G. Speak 👊🏿
When people talk about Floyd they tend talk ONLY about him vs Dela Hoya and after. Floyd throughout his whole career was offensively a GREAT fighter. However, Floyd before the Dela Hoya fight and consistent hand problems was an absolute offensive magician...#GiveMeJESUS
They act like those fights aren't on yt! They just don't wanna admit his mastery.
@No Lies Allowed 6 years later and still just as true. Although I agree with everything else this wise man said I think people forget about the difference in fighting styles between Mayweather as "Pretty Boy Floyd" versus "Money Mayweather."
Great Interview.
Love these interviews. I try to tell people my age that SRR is the greatest all time
I remember watching Ali throw jabs to the body.
Great interview
OG speaking that truth but I disagree on him with Ali
Ali is GOAT
So much boxing knowledge in one video.
The Old School Way lives on in Philly & always will. Thats why its Boxing Mecca
The fact that Ali never really was a body puncher makes him even more of the GOAT! It speak volumes that he didn't have to have that in his game. However, Mayweather was a complete fighter who could do it all. He confidence and cockiness makes people hate to give him his full credit. Ali was calling himself the GOAT long before he was considered the GOAT. One thing for sure though sure. Mayweather is the GOAT of this ERA! I'm excited to see who's going to be considered the new GOAT of this new era!
Mayweather couldn’t hold Ali’s jockstrap
I dont think any fighter will ever be better then Sugar Ray Robinson but Floyd is definately in the top 5
+Angel Rivera Don't be too much nostalgic.
For me the best fighter is someone who has beaten all the stars and champions and remained undefeated with outstanding defense skills. Floyd is definitely on top of the list.
@@markusdeep42 Floyd avoided the top fighters in their prime. Robinson had over 200 professional fights, beat every fighter throughout the 40s and 50s across 4 weight divisions. He was 128-1 at his peak. He was unbeaten from 1943 to 1952 at 3 weights. That was a run of 88 fights (a fight every 5 weeks). His only loss in all that time was to La Motta, a guy who he beat on 5 other occasions, including 3 weeks after that one loss. He lost some fights later in his career (he was still a world champ in the mid-1960s because he was broke and needed the money). Being undefeated doesn’t make you the best. It’s nothing to do with it. Joe Calzaghe was undefeated. So was Marciano. But SRR was the best ‘pound for pound’ by almost any criteria. The term ‘pound for pound’ was actually invented to describe him as the greatest fighter ever.
This OG right here I give much respect to he knows he knows more than I ever will about boxing, what he's saying about Muhammad Ali I have to take that cuz it's true, and with that being said that goes to show how great Muhammad Ali was because he wasn't a complete fighter and he'd be all the complete fighters was Joe Frazier complete was George Chavalo complete was Ernie Terrell Cleveland Williams Jerry quarry Henry Cooper etc etc what they complete and what do Muhammad Ali do to them, so I guess it seems like I got a little touch on my hair raised up a little bit on the defensive side so I want to offend I don't want to offend I just want to clarify it all them great fighters that you can possibly think of Muhammad Ali was better than them all
Because he could beat them all he had what they call the it Factor Jack Johnson Joe Louis Gene Tunny Archie Moore Jersey Joe Walcott all of them, they was all bad men but they couldn't mess with the likes of Muhammad Ali too fast too small of a thinking his repercussion skills was too good his recuperating skills was too good and he can take all that rough tough punishment and as pretty as a girl so now you draw it up
And he had a three and a half year layoff just supreme skills man I can go on and on and on and on and
You should've asked him about Ezzard Charles
I think these guys are judging floyd on his last few fight 130 135 140 he was all attack mode trading and slipping punches start from pro debut to 49 and still say he isn't the most well rounded with being at weight disadvantage the whole time at 147 154
the actually described Mayweather . hit don't get hit , defense going to the body etc.
Saying Ali wasn't; a complete fighter because he didn't go to the body sounds crazy. Ali chose not to go to the body but he was still knocking fellas out! The other man only had to guard his chin but still couldn't escape the sharp shooting Ali. Prime Ali is The Greatest Boxer of all time period.
No he wasn’t. Do you have any idea how many boxers there have been? Have you ever heard of Henry Armstrong or Benny Leonard? Do you know who Sugar Ray Robinson was? You have to learn about the history of boxing before saying prime Ali was the greatest boxer of all-time period. There are great boxers out there from history who were unbeaten after 70 odd fights and with world title defences behind them. Learn your history first before making the most obvious comment in boxing. Ali is the most famous and had the greatest personality etc etc, however, the greatest boxer not a chance. In 1964 when he beat Liston, Ali was brilliant, his movement was incredible, however, Liston was old and much older then his age on the programme, plus he was well past his 1956 to 1960 peak.
Sugar Ray Robinson the G.O.A.T
Closely followed by Henry Armstrong, Joe Louis or Harry Greb.
Pound for Pound The Absolute Best. 💯
made a good point the guys that own the gyms dont have the trainers
Mayweather name doesn’t even belong in the same sentence as ray Robinson aka walker smith Duran Lenard
I've been following Duran since he won the lightweight title and he is my favorite boxer ever, he always had trouble with slick boxers and Mayweather is as slick as they come.
Your right
@@chuckemeade Duran would knock Mayweather out in his prime
@@senseichess8688 I have been a Duran fan since the 70's when he beat Ken Buchanan. He always had trouble with slick, quick boxers. Edwin Viruet, Ray LampkinVilomar Fernandez all gave him fits and none of them is close to Mayweather in terms of skill.
@@chuckemeade well maybe your right but if i had 100 000 dollars to bet on a fight with both these guys in their primes...id bet on duran
How old is this man?
the business of boxing suffers when boxers learn defense - same with every other sport - that's why you have all the rule changes in other sports and most of them benefit the offense
Bernard , James Toney , Mike Mccallum
Those are some good names for the oldschool style. Toney being my all time favorite
#Big ups to da og. Luv to c da older guys giv us the boxing knknowledg on da game but outta all dem greats im pickin #moneymay defense is sharp #tmt
today's boxing lacks serious defense. all aimed to please the casuals. its like a cheap soup full of water.
+Selma Agreed
He says a fighter is not complete less he goes to the body meaning a fighter like wilder is not a complete fighter it is what it is
Walker Smith Jnr is greatest fighter “EVER”
What does this dude say to the fact that Ali was faster than Robinson..That be with the jab and the combinations..This was tested in a syncronizer by Jimmy Jacobs..Jacobs was the former great handball player who managed Mike Tyson before died of lekumia...
Boxing is waiting on the next ray robinson
Marcus Ramos that’s gonna be me Jahi tucker ranked #3 in the USA for boxing in the 138lb division
he knows his boxing, and finally someone admits Ali wasn't a complete fighter, ain't it funny though everything he mentioned Mayweather is great at besides attacking. which if Sugar Ray Robinson fought against some of the guys with great counter ability that came along later he would have had major problems. especially guys with timing and accuracy
+Raymond Diggs oh yeah the warrior in all of those greats would have fought their hearts out. I was a boxer and you have many styles and different levels of speed. power, etc... but only one master it all. People who don't understand the sport because they have only watched and wouldn't know that speed is power when it's used correctly. you can have speed and know timing or faints. I've also seen floyd have guys off their feet and then let them hang around when he could have finished them. SRR and guys like him paved the way but the game has greatly elevated and this guy although people have negative opinion is a master! I've heard people say his fights are boring and that's because most of them don't know the level of difficulty to make another champion miss by an inch and hit him with two, or to smother a guys punches, short check hooks that are hard to see, great feetwork, slick jab, great body puncher, lead right, over hand right, hook upper cut, angles, he lacks nothing you feel me and he smiles at champions while doing it! simply has never been seen before
+Raymond Diggs right on! go back and watch the film though that's history! like your grandchildren are going to have to watch today's fighters to know their history
+Raymond Diggs my opinion is Srr would have played into mayweather style it's a great debate though Henry would have lost as well but a close fight
Nobody with any knowledge of boxing thinks Muhammad Ali is a complete fighter in pure textbook terms.
What made Ali great is that he was able to blend his natural ability and unique style together with two of the most important fundamentals, his jab and his footwork.
Ali mastered the jab and footwork, which if done well enough, can win fights alone without any other fundamental skills... mix that with all the other natural attributes and ability of Ali's, the speed, reflexes, athleticism, ridiculous self belief, iron jaw, superb conditioning and you have a man that's very hard to beat.
Ali was also a pretty good combination puncher, had a pinpoint right hand and knew how to throw in the odd hook or uppercut as well and he knew how to tie a man up to avoid one of his weaknesses (fighting inside)
Ali even went to the body in certain fights (Williams for example) but not too often.
You don't have to be the most complete to be the greatest or the best 😎
Floyd is one of the smartest fighters in the ring and out of the ring but no he is not better than Ray Robinson but Floyd made his money with out getting hurt smart.
Joe Louis is the greatest
Sugar Ray Rob nd Fmm at a draw for the GOAT right now cause Srr the Goat from 15rd Floyd the 12rd Goat
ALI IS THE GOAT.
+nur ibrahim NOPE FLOYD IS AND AMIR KHAN IS A BUM
Floyd Mayweather said the same thing about Muhammad Ali and they tried to call Floyd a liar and disrespectful.
This man does not like Floyd
Andre Ward is abetter fighter than Joe Louis
And Roy Jones Jr better than Andre Ward and Floyd Mayweather Jr better than Roy Jones Jr
Stop listening to these lying old guys
mayweathers the most clever boxer to lace them up. TBE
You can't compare fighters from any Era. Different times, training, regiments, nutrition etc. While I've watched many SRR fights while great IMO (IN MY OPINION) FMJr "Adaptability & Ring IQ INSIDE the Boxing Ring" was second to NONE in the history of boxing & that's not even mentioning his Defense which is "arguably" the greatest Defense boxing has ever seen inside the boxing ring. IDK who would win because in boxing everyone has a "punchers chance" to win a boxing match but I have to favor FMJr due to those 3 things i mentioned also this era is just better overall when it comes to training & athletes.
Mayweather is not a great fighter, Yes he beat some legend such as de la hoya, shane mosley, etc but they already pass their prime.
If he meet roy jones, bernard hopkins or joe calzage in their prime it would be a different story.
Averyzalia Sylvia he was in the lower weight classes in his prime
He’s the best of his generation by far but there are too many other great fighters in history ahead of him like Pep, SRR, Louis, Greb, Armstrong.
Mayweather the greatest
Ali's the Greatest
I got Robinson beating mayweather by a close sd.
There would be nothing close about that fight. The highest weight Mayweather ever fought at was 154 and he only did that about 3 times. Robinson, while past his own prime, was knocking out full fledged middleweights with one punch, Fullmer with a left hook and Graziano with the straight right. Two of the toughest, iron chinned fighters of all time.
I think Robinson is a better overall fighter than Mayweather anyway, but throw in that size and power advantage as well? Not much chance for a Mayweather win IMO.