I find it amusing that you used Demeter in the fight against Zeus. Like, she was present to give you the mission, saw Zeus was about to attack, and went "OH, FUCK YOU BUDDY!" and jumped in.
Ah yes. Nightmares Zeus 2 always felt like some kind of IV endgame boss that spams pierce/almighty because fun game design. But realising there is a noticable pattern and building demons around it, my god it feels rewarding, and when I was putting my first attempts into Shiva I kinda noticed how similar these two function (basically, rob that second turn or else). While I still think Khonsu Ra as the 'best' boss in this game, this fight is great for a multitude of reasons.
I think what's worse is how the game is designed; bosses in V rarely uses/have buff/debuff skills in their kit and instead had them built into the attack skills instead which does two jobs in one turn, and thus they're more dangerous, and the odd is always stacked against you because buff/debuff had a fixed 3 turns count even though so the pressure on it is extremely high and skills like Dekaja/Dekunda still exists for bosses.
This battle oh my fucking record scratch. It is utterly insane with so many different ways he can put you on the brink. Quite possibly the hardest non-superboss in the game. Hoping Secret Neutral Lucifer packs a good fight with him here!
Really doubt Neutral Lucifer could be a good fight since the Nahobino would be around level 90 by then, assuming he fight Shiva at level 80, after that he would get like 6 levels or something, combine with all the Empyrean exp will make his level skyrocket
@@hoangthemanh4072 You have to remember that while sure the Nahobino is that level, many demons won't be close with there only being two demons in the 80s he could get. Lucifer in Phase 2 and Phase 3 could prove to be a far bigger challenge due to this. Also Empyrean exp isn't huge after Shiva is done at lv80, he might be around 86-87 but definitely not skyrocketing. Basically, judging how difficult this fight will be solely on the Nahobinos level disadvantage not being big here is not a good way of gauging difficulty with respect to this challenge run.
You can fight Lucifer 2 on new game plus with Shiva beaten on a previous run and not the current run. That is the only way to make the fight interesting in a conventional playthrough.
Fun story when I first entered the Empyrean on my journey to get each ending in this game (Started with Law) I came across this quest and thought it would be a simple re-fight to unlock his fusion. It took more attempts and time than probably all the Endgame fights minus Shiva of course (I was LV78 lol) Also shoutouts to Zues for being one of my Key Tankers and Attackers when I finally beat Demi-Fiend.
@@banalsandwitch4002 They always hit the minimum amount which is twice. One hit is 150 base power so 2 is 300 base power. Barion skills are 265 base power so they are better by a significant margin
@@aly3392 By that math, Thalassic Calamity (95 power, 3-7 hits of Ice damage) is also better than -barion spells for ST DPS, but is also outpaced by the less unique 2-5 hit spells with 150 power per hit.
It did hit at least once or twice. It really does suffer without a combination of Dragon Eye, high agility, Sukukaja/Luster Candy x2 on the attacker, and Sukunda/Debilitate x2 on the target. Unfortunately, Kali does not learn Dragon Eye naturally, and her natural agility isn't at speed-demon levels...
Zeus need to give Demeter the right ass beating for the bitch she was in Strange Journey. It's a shame how only at the very end of the game do boss fights become more interesting; more lethal and every victory doesn't mean that you've triumphed over them, it's just that you managed to survived another day. Zeus really step up his game compare to Odin whose difficulty is much worse than his Apocalypse counterpart. Jeesh.
i think it's finally here
and the harvest begins
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I find it amusing that you used Demeter in the fight against Zeus. Like, she was present to give you the mission, saw Zeus was about to attack, and went "OH, FUCK YOU BUDDY!" and jumped in.
Ah yes. Nightmares
Zeus 2 always felt like some kind of IV endgame boss that spams pierce/almighty because fun game design. But realising there is a noticable pattern and building demons around it, my god it feels rewarding, and when I was putting my first attempts into Shiva I kinda noticed how similar these two function (basically, rob that second turn or else). While I still think Khonsu Ra as the 'best' boss in this game, this fight is great for a multitude of reasons.
I think what's worse is how the game is designed; bosses in V rarely uses/have buff/debuff skills in their kit and instead had them built into the attack skills instead which does two jobs in one turn, and thus they're more dangerous, and the odd is always stacked against you because buff/debuff had a fixed 3 turns count even though so the pressure on it is extremely high and skills like Dekaja/Dekunda still exists for bosses.
This battle oh my fucking record scratch. It is utterly insane with so many different ways he can put you on the brink. Quite possibly the hardest non-superboss in the game.
Hoping Secret Neutral Lucifer packs a good fight with him here!
Really doubt Neutral Lucifer could be a good fight since the Nahobino would be around level 90 by then, assuming he fight Shiva at level 80, after that he would get like 6 levels or something, combine with all the Empyrean exp will make his level skyrocket
@@hoangthemanh4072 You have to remember that while sure the Nahobino is that level, many demons won't be close with there only being two demons in the 80s he could get. Lucifer in Phase 2 and Phase 3 could prove to be a far bigger challenge due to this.
Also Empyrean exp isn't huge after Shiva is done at lv80, he might be around 86-87 but definitely not skyrocketing.
Basically, judging how difficult this fight will be solely on the Nahobinos level disadvantage not being big here is not a good way of gauging difficulty with respect to this challenge run.
You can fight Lucifer 2 on new game plus with Shiva beaten on a previous run and not the current run. That is the only way to make the fight interesting in a conventional playthrough.
Refer to the comment above you as to why that's not the only way to make the fight interesting
Edit: Hey at least you edited it
My oh my this explanation aged like fine wine
Fun story when I first entered the Empyrean on my journey to get each ending in this game (Started with Law) I came across this quest and thought it would be a simple re-fight to unlock his fusion.
It took more attempts and time than probably all the Endgame fights minus Shiva of course (I was LV78 lol)
Also shoutouts to Zues for being one of my Key Tankers and Attackers when I finally beat Demi-Fiend.
Zues supremacy
Zeus 2 is while being the hardest non-superboss fight in the game is also probably one of the most fun fights in the game by far imo
i lost to zeus and checked here because i remembered he had a debuffs mechanic. now I beat him in like 5 minutes because omagatoki charge is fun
Man, Floral Gust looks beautiful. Are the multi hitting attack that good or are they only useful in this run I've never seen anyone else use them
They're better damage than the Barion skills
@@aly3392 is it tho? Obviously that's true with omagatoki: dance but normally they only hit twice
@@banalsandwitch4002 They always hit the minimum amount which is twice. One hit is 150 base power so 2 is 300 base power. Barion skills are 265 base power so they are better by a significant margin
@@aly3392 By that math, Thalassic Calamity (95 power, 3-7 hits of Ice damage) is also better than -barion spells for ST DPS, but is also outpaced by the less unique 2-5 hit spells with 150 power per hit.
@@steam-powereddolphin5449 I already knew this but it makes sense for TH to be weaker as it comes far before any of the non uniques.
Did Figment Slash hit ONCE this battle?!
It did hit at least once or twice. It really does suffer without a combination of Dragon Eye, high agility, Sukukaja/Luster Candy x2 on the attacker, and Sukunda/Debilitate x2 on the target. Unfortunately, Kali does not learn Dragon Eye naturally, and her natural agility isn't at speed-demon levels...
How to get pass skill boon boost ex sir
Beelzebub essence in the Empyrean
Zeus need to give Demeter the right ass beating for the bitch she was in Strange Journey.
It's a shame how only at the very end of the game do boss fights become more interesting; more lethal and every victory doesn't mean that you've triumphed over them, it's just that you managed to survived another day. Zeus really step up his game compare to Odin whose difficulty is much worse than his Apocalypse counterpart. Jeesh.
Zeus and Amon are easily doi's best designs there just too cool