This is one of those songs you listen to when your really angry about something and you want to release it, is so crazy in so many levels, despite the story behind it, is one of my favorites from NW
@@bornready6924 You seem convinced. Personally, I couldn't tell you if they are lies or the gospel truth, and I'm not sure that matters. No names are mentioned, it's just a song about feeling bitter / angry - hardly an unusual topic. It's about how they FELT during a specific period of time, and we all know feelings are born from personal perspective. Opening your veins, lyrically, can't be a lot of fun to do night after night. To the crowd it's just a song, but the band felt those feelings and lived those moments. No reason to pick at a scar.
@@crabuki1273 .. i am ... it perpetuates the angry, hateful image they had of Marcelo.. i could give you specific details which will clear it all up...
@@crabuki1273 ... their distaste for Macelo first formed when he was outraged at their utter disregard for Tarja's well being after she was brutally attacked on stage by a crazed fan here is a clip ..... www.youtube.com/ watch?v=3bj4h1807kY&lc=UggcqWbe9g8783gCoAEC ... showing the incident and their response or, more precisely, the complete lack of...note the attack from 20 to 40 seconds into the clip ...then around the 4 minute mark, Tuomas casually sashays to the mic and announces"we had a little incident here..Tarja was struck in the face...no biggie...going right back to the keyboard..Tarja returned to stage a 10 minutes later, still in shock and in tears finished the night's set, according to witnesses...now granted Marco was not with them at the time,) ...then reinforced as he negotiated her interests with the band's manager ( she spent the first 4 years with them trying to get her concern regarding constant smoking, drinking and partying on the tour bus, ability to have input into song material, costumes, stage presence, vocal register and overall vocal tonality to employ, not to mention basic privacy, security, allergic reactions, interrupted sleeping patterns and even a place to warm-up her vocal chords(a 30 to 40 minute process requiring silence and concentration)...nearly all of which were effectively ignored...so she hired Marcelo, who later her husband, to negotiate that with the band's manager..they strongly resented it and thought that he was interfering with band's business and turning her head...she had numerous very lucrative offers to leave but chose to remain hoping to rectify the conditions with Marcelo's expert help.. then finally she got fed up and announce her plans for a solo career to them in 2003...at this point, they completely cut her out of the loop..she stated that she discovered NW ticket sales going on online to small venues requiring her to perform almost daily..a very serious point of contention ensued...once again, they resented Marcelo's involvement, convinced he was interfering with band's business...and finally they decided not to do another album with her but did not tell her directly, instead published a letter outlining all their grievances making her appear greedy, unconcerned about fans and her husband as the one who caused a rift due to his "cultural differences" .. the fans, Marcelo, industry, critics figuratively, gave Tuomas a giant size wedgie, and he was as mad as a wet hen
Tuomas wrote this song during strange times for the band... They had just fired Tarja and he was still angry and frustrated about her and her husband Marcelo because he felt like he was getting in the band's way and turning Tarja into a "diva".... I believe they still had not hired Annette either by then and that's why Marco sings alone in this one... You can actually find some demos of the dark passion play songs sang by Marco on Spotify....
I absolutely love the sawing, powerful, angry guitar lines and playing being used to generate so many stunningly gorgeous chord progressions, especially in the middle part. This song is pure fury but with a towering, monstrous beauty.
This is on album with Anette right after Tarja left even though it has mainly male vocals by awesome Marco. Troy, Floor and Kai joined to the band much later.
I love all the Nightwish members! When you see them perform, watch their 'Please learn this setlist in 48 hours' documentary etc, it feels like you kinda know them. This video was a nice compilation. Shout out to whoever made it.
That beginning where you said "little bit of a Van Halen vibe", was the first notes of a song called "Ghost River". I'm actually surprised you haven't hit that one yet. You've pretty much hit all their heaviest sings and while Ghost River isn't the heaviest, it's still on the heavier side of Nightwish. It's also got some nice back and forth between Annette (studio) / Floor (live) vs. Marco (both). Obviously Wacken 2013 with Floor will be the preferred version.
@@barbaravance6774 ...pardon me, but is not this self-serving, utterly bitter, accusatory, detached from reality, replete with personal diatribes of Marcelo and Tarja, narrative?....this song the epitome of bile and insanity brought on by the resentment of Tarja for leaving and Marcelo's perceived interference in the band's business (as though she is his property and doesn't have the right to present terms)....i strongly urge you to read over these lyrics...but this is but one of many songs and follow up interviews in which Tuomas vented his pent up venom...Tarja, luckily, has more discretion...
they never ever played this song live before & i don't think they will cus toumas said they will never play it live it's too personal after they fired tarja !
@@donaldcampbell9483 yes sir i've seen nightwish twice here in detroit a few years ago & saw epica too & kamelot & delain as well bad ass bands i tell u ;)
Hi from the UK something you might like to check out floors band before nightwish After forever monolith of doubt live at kopspijkers 2002 After forever my pledge of allegiance #1 live die zillo festival 2004
Floor and Tarja are actually friends so kinda doubt she will have anything to do with that song, but glad you finally got around to listen to it cause its a damn good song. I'm kinda both glad and sad they never did it live,but it certainly was the right move not t play it live.
thanx react again mr. heavy. this song really go harder end of the nightwish pool. this song really made like thinking metallica,and thats good think coz metallica is number 1 band this universe. ok have great day there. ps. good notest that opening you heard like van halen. thats riff open one nightwish song.
his anger at Tarja (and her only supporter in the picture) her manager for cutting into his wallet is quite sad, but then its understandable realizing that with Marco in the lead vocals, NW would have folded in a NY minute...
It almost seems like u like ur music heavy! Who would have known!? xD If u haven't heard them, check out gojira! Heaviest matter in the universe, Flying Whales, Global Warming (Live in studio). Keep it heavy dude! \,,/
u should check nightwish doing a cover song from megadeath symphony of destruction live & i gotta tell u it's pretty loud & its a bad ass cover & i hope u like it , plus i forgot to tell u that nightwish's favorite 2 bands are pantera & metallica cheers \M/ from detroit michigan ruclips.net/video/ch6OW55spzA/видео.html
Tarja is a sweet and giving person..it was Tuomas's jealousy and resentment which caused all the problems..if you wish i can give you the true story and not that garbage Tuomas is pushing
The Heavy they don’t have that many. Sleeping sun might b a bit 2 mellow for you but Dead boys poem is outstanding. The islander and kiss while ur lips r still red have Marko on vocals.
just another rambling angry, vengeful, misplaced rant at Marcelo and Tarja by an angry, repressed, bipolar manchild , one minute striking blindly at his enemies and the next begging for mercy and pity..sad
born ready, and you're showing your maturity by seagulling through here with all your little angry comments about something that happened 15 years ago? Have you ever heard that when it comes to truth, there's always at least three sides: what Person A said happened, what Person B said happened, and what really happened. You obviously prefer to believe Tarja's version of events; fine, I prefer to believe that there was both right and wrong done on both sides, but again, it all happened 15 years ago. It's really no longer relevant except as a bit of background for the lyrics of this song and a couple of others. Sounds to me as though you're the one who's still angry and holding a grudge. (And for anyone unfamiliar with the term seagulling - seagulls tend to fly in, make a lot of noise, and crap all over the place before leaving again. So, online folks that come in and leave a lot of comments that mostly seem derogatory in nature, that's seagulling.)
@@MsCatstaff ...i go strictly by the best available facts as opposed to the true seagulls who pepper youtube with their slavish adherence to Tuomas, the manchild (who writes dribble like "i see my crib as bars through my unborn child's eyes"..give me a break...) and his insanely virulent lap dog the bearded screecher, who most of the time resembles visually and vocally, a veritable madman
That almost makes me say, "Floor who?".
Almost... 😁
In a very selfish way, I kinda wish Tuomas had more things to be pissed off about.
Dark Passion Play is very good album...
This is one of those songs you listen to when your really angry about something and you want to release it, is so crazy in so many levels, despite the story behind it, is one of my favorites from NW
I love this song. I understand why they'll never play it live, but it's great. Thanks for doing it!
they never play it live because its an ugly bunch of lies from a deranged manchild
@@bornready6924 You seem convinced. Personally, I couldn't tell you if they are lies or the gospel truth, and I'm not sure that matters. No names are mentioned, it's just a song about feeling bitter / angry - hardly an unusual topic. It's about how they FELT during a specific period of time, and we all know feelings are born from personal perspective. Opening your veins, lyrically, can't be a lot of fun to do night after night. To the crowd it's just a song, but the band felt those feelings and lived those moments. No reason to pick at a scar.
@@crabuki1273 .. i am ... it perpetuates the angry, hateful image they had of Marcelo.. i could give you specific details which will clear it all up...
@@bornready6924 Do tell.
@@crabuki1273 ... their distaste for Macelo first formed when he was outraged at their utter disregard for Tarja's well being after she was brutally attacked on stage by a crazed fan here is a clip ..... www.youtube.com/
watch?v=3bj4h1807kY&lc=UggcqWbe9g8783gCoAEC ...
showing the incident and their response or, more precisely, the complete lack of...note the attack from 20 to 40 seconds into the clip ...then around the 4 minute mark, Tuomas casually sashays to the mic and announces"we had a little incident here..Tarja was struck in the face...no biggie...going right back to the keyboard..Tarja returned to stage a 10 minutes later, still in shock and in tears finished the night's set, according to witnesses...now granted Marco was not with them at the time,) ...then reinforced as he negotiated her interests with the band's manager ( she spent the first 4 years with them trying to get her concern regarding constant smoking, drinking and partying on the tour bus, ability to have input into song material, costumes, stage presence, vocal register and overall vocal tonality to employ, not to mention basic privacy, security, allergic reactions, interrupted sleeping patterns and even a place to warm-up her vocal chords(a 30 to 40 minute process requiring silence and concentration)...nearly all of which were effectively ignored...so she hired Marcelo, who later her husband, to negotiate that with the band's manager..they strongly resented it and thought that he was interfering with band's business and turning her head...she had numerous very lucrative offers to leave but chose to remain hoping to rectify the conditions with Marcelo's expert help.. then finally she got fed up and announce her plans for a solo career to them in 2003...at this point, they completely cut her out of the loop..she stated that she discovered NW ticket sales going on online to small venues requiring her to perform almost daily..a very serious point of contention ensued...once again, they resented Marcelo's involvement, convinced he was interfering with band's business...and finally they decided not to do another album with her but did not tell her directly, instead published a letter outlining all their grievances making her appear greedy, unconcerned about fans and her husband as the one who caused a rift due to his "cultural differences" .. the fans, Marcelo, industry, critics figuratively, gave Tuomas a giant size wedgie, and he was as mad as a wet hen
Tuomas wrote this song during strange times for the band... They had just fired Tarja and he was still angry and frustrated about her and her husband Marcelo because he felt like he was getting in the band's way and turning Tarja into a "diva".... I believe they still had not hired Annette either by then and that's why Marco sings alone in this one... You can actually find some demos of the dark passion play songs sang by Marco on Spotify....
I absolutely love the sawing, powerful, angry guitar lines and playing being used to generate so many stunningly gorgeous chord progressions, especially in the middle part. This song is pure fury but with a towering, monstrous beauty.
This is on album with Anette right after Tarja left even though it has mainly male vocals by awesome Marco. Troy, Floor and Kai joined to the band much later.
What a time to be alive... Nightwish.
I love all the Nightwish members! When you see them perform, watch their 'Please learn this setlist in 48 hours' documentary etc, it feels like you kinda know them. This video was a nice compilation. Shout out to whoever made it.
yah they are all equally abhorrent
Fantastic song, and awesome reaction. They weren’t fucking around - heavy as shit 🤘🤘
the song is heavy but the content is full of lies
Yes!! Not only do I love this song, but loved your reaction, too! Infectious energy indeed! Thank you for doing this song! 🤘🔥⚡💥☮
First time listen for me too. Everyone on point here, especially Marco. Great reaction.
Oh yes what a kickass for Marcello, Tarjas husband and manager.
"Shudder Before the Beatiful" live in Wembley and "Ghost River" live in Wacken are two very good choices for you
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**GHOST RIVER!!**
Please do Ghost River next!!
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Agree! He’s gonna love that one :D
@@oolillemyoo4099 so epic 😁
That beginning where you said "little bit of a Van Halen vibe", was the first notes of a song called "Ghost River". I'm actually surprised you haven't hit that one yet. You've pretty much hit all their heaviest sings and while Ghost River isn't the heaviest, it's still on the heavier side of Nightwish. It's also got some nice back and forth between Annette (studio) / Floor (live) vs. Marco (both). Obviously Wacken 2013 with Floor will be the preferred version.
Ghost river is a great song!
no one ever got Tuomas's passions up like Tarja ....
@@bornready6924 You seem very bitter. Every comment is against him! They have both moved on. You should too.
@@barbaravance6774 ...pardon me, but is not this self-serving, utterly bitter, accusatory, detached from reality, replete with personal diatribes of Marcelo and Tarja, narrative?....this song the epitome of bile and insanity brought on by the resentment of Tarja for leaving and Marcelo's perceived interference in the band's business (as though she is his property and doesn't have the right to present terms)....i strongly urge you to read over these lyrics...but this is but one of many songs and follow up interviews in which Tuomas vented his pent up venom...Tarja, luckily, has more discretion...
I love this song I would love if they would do more like this :)........Toumas was in heavier bands before Nightwish
Tuomas was? I think you mean Marko.
they will when Floor leaves..Tuomas will become a full time hater
they never ever played this song live before & i don't think they will cus toumas said they will never play it live it's too personal after they fired tarja !
Could you imagine if they led off a concert with this?
@@donaldcampbell9483 that would be so awesome to see
@@bignade00 have you had the chance to see them live? I was going to see them in LA but that's not happening!
@@donaldcampbell9483 yes sir i've seen nightwish twice here in detroit a few years ago & saw epica too & kamelot & delain as well bad ass bands i tell u ;)
just another angry pile of vindictive lies from the angry Tuomas and his screeching henchman...
Cheers! I knew you would love that one, it's not the usual Nightwish but they show they can do thrash metal too.
would be great to have whole album so heavy as this one song..
its not Tuomas's style anymore since Tarja left..he is now into his original love of Finnish mood music
the music is intense but the message is grossly misplace
Fun fact, Tuomas & Tony Kakko do back up vocals on this song. The real high back up vocals is Tony.
Great to see you having a heavy😉 time listening and watching this video. 💕🤘
I knew you would not be disappointed, despite there not being a live version
Damn... I love this song❤🥰
Yes, The good thing about the nightwish music is the good structures, heavy or not 😅
Hi from the UK something you might like to check out floors band before nightwish
After forever monolith of doubt live at kopspijkers 2002
After forever my pledge of allegiance #1 live die zillo festival 2004
And it turned out that you liked ...👍🤘
Cool that someone put this video together😄🤘
Great reaction to a great song!
You NEED to go check out Markos previous band TAROT! Wont regreat it! Check out Crows Fly Back or Pyre of Gods! Live from "undead indeed" DVD
We all knew you would appreciate this one. Floor was not in the band for this recording.
110 % power
Floor and Tarja are actually friends so kinda doubt she will have anything to do with that song, but glad you finally got around to listen to it cause its a damn good song. I'm kinda both glad and sad they never did it live,but it certainly was the right move not t play it live.
They were friends, but actually not.
@@Pepenez .. they always were close
playing that pile of anger and resentment live would cause many remaining Tarja fans to abandon them
they are very close....Tarja always welcomed her successor and wished them the best of luck
Marko kiitos from FI:)
Love it🤘🤘
thanx react again mr. heavy. this song really go harder end of the nightwish pool. this song really made like thinking metallica,and thats good think coz metallica is number 1 band this universe. ok have great day there. ps. good notest that opening you heard like van halen. thats riff open one nightwish song.
Wow that was great, I would also love to hear this with a growling Floor, thx for that treat :-)
Floor has too much class to perform this angry rant..plus she and Tarja are close friends
I love you Marco ,
his anger at Tarja (and her only supporter in the picture) her manager for cutting into his wallet is quite sad, but then its understandable realizing that with Marco in the lead vocals, NW would have folded in a NY minute...
BAM!!!
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It almost seems like u like ur music heavy! Who would have known!? xD If u haven't heard them, check out gojira! Heaviest matter in the universe, Flying Whales, Global Warming (Live in studio). Keep it heavy dude! \,,/
Since now you are getting yourself entrenched in symphonic metal. Try Epica "Cosign to Oblivion" live from Zenith Paris.
It's been done. Awesome song. 😉🤘
My bad!! Didn't scroll back far enough or going blind!
amen..much better band, in my opinion
Please react to: Battle Beast Noora Louhimo.Black Ninja.King for A Day officials video. Noora has a amazing voice ,she can sing FI:)
u should check nightwish doing a cover song from megadeath symphony of destruction live & i gotta tell u it's pretty loud & its a bad ass cover & i hope u like it , plus i forgot to tell u that nightwish's favorite 2 bands are pantera & metallica cheers \M/ from detroit michigan ruclips.net/video/ch6OW55spzA/видео.html
Tarja's shenanigans led to the anguish of the Poet and the Pendulum. She isn't my favorite person.
Tarja is a sweet and giving person..it was Tuomas's jealousy and resentment which caused all the problems..if you wish i can give you the true story and not that garbage Tuomas is pushing
So.... how would u feel about a ballad? Lol dead boys poem at Buenos Aires 18.
I'm up for it 🤘
The Heavy they don’t have that many. Sleeping sun might b a bit 2 mellow for you but Dead boys poem is outstanding. The islander and kiss while ur lips r still red have Marko on vocals.
@@theheavy3468 .. and original Tarja's version is great too... ruclips.net/video/6Acl6I8km3w/видео.html
Great song, but that video is distracting.
Pretty good fan service. But yes, mostly distracting.
just another rambling angry, vengeful, misplaced rant at Marcelo and Tarja by an angry, repressed, bipolar manchild , one minute striking blindly at his enemies and the next begging for mercy and pity..sad
You don't understand much about art, do you?
@@alanfoster6589 .. you should read my comments more carefully, than it will all be clear
born ready, and you're showing your maturity by seagulling through here with all your little angry comments about something that happened 15 years ago? Have you ever heard that when it comes to truth, there's always at least three sides: what Person A said happened, what Person B said happened, and what really happened. You obviously prefer to believe Tarja's version of events; fine, I prefer to believe that there was both right and wrong done on both sides, but again, it all happened 15 years ago. It's really no longer relevant except as a bit of background for the lyrics of this song and a couple of others. Sounds to me as though you're the one who's still angry and holding a grudge.
(And for anyone unfamiliar with the term seagulling - seagulls tend to fly in, make a lot of noise, and crap all over the place before leaving again. So, online folks that come in and leave a lot of comments that mostly seem derogatory in nature, that's seagulling.)
@@bornready6924 I've written 130 books. My comprehension of written English is quite adequate.
@@MsCatstaff ...i go strictly by the best available facts as opposed to the true seagulls who pepper youtube with their slavish adherence to Tuomas, the manchild (who writes dribble like "i see my crib as bars through my unborn child's eyes"..give me a break...) and his insanely virulent lap dog the bearded screecher, who most of the time resembles visually and vocally, a veritable madman