@Tammy I don't know if, more importantly. But definitely at the top of the list. A narcissist is just a spoiled selfish child in adult form. We have many factors to thank for this.
Physical discomfort grows body and cleanses the mind. For me, working in a physically intensive worksite is more rewarding, than the $20 gym. Not only the work pays off in both ways, but you can eat as many types of sugary foods and carbs, and STILL lose bodily fat. And OH LORD, the euphoria, after the job is done, come back home and sip soft coffee while classical music plays in the background AND taking the moment to look out the window... dude... Now I can't wait to recreate it all for tomorrow. Night night 🌃😴
For a decade or so starting from age 5 one is taught that obedience to authority is the only way to be "good". The suppression of natural urges for the purpose of appeasing authority is the root of a lot of anxiety.
Same as me. Took me many years to understand it. Authority is not always right ( understatement of the year ) and not aiming to the so called greater good, but to the benefit of elites. Knowing is half the battle, I still struggle with this... even if now I understand.
Theres a difference between obedience and being a respectful person. A respectful person is aware of their conformity, and chooses to conform rather than be led blindly. A defient person defys authority out of pure emotion and no actual critical thought of why they should or should not conform. That's just how I see it.
A decade or so? I'd say at least the last 4 or 5 decades if not more. Really, the whole education system for quite some time, generally. Would one want to separate worldly authority from metaphysical authority? Not being cheeky, but generally curious of people's ideas.
So to sum up: Don't avoid difficult decisions and actions. Take responsibility Don't limit yourself to people's norms and expectations. Follow your heart
Hell is the absolute withdrawal into the abyss of the isolated self. An internal restriction of the prideful self for eternity. Pride is the fixation of the exterior self on itself. Heaven is communal ontology. Christianity series of humiliations of the false, illusory and fabricated self. Metanoia, kenosis and the joy of self forgetting. The tragedy of modern man is that his intelligence, his spirituality and his contemplative independence have been inoexorably throttled by his OWN superego which has sold itself without compromise to technology. The false self or superego is the infantile and introverted substitute for conscience. If we foresake the vestiges of wisdom for the empty headed crowing of advertisers and engineers of opinion, then there is nothing left for mankind but total INSANITY. Religion is nature's revenge on Intelligence burial of its mystical roots.
Dont adopt a victim mentality, it will never serve you any good. Be courageous, be bold, and build your strength and character by tackling what you fear head on... Its time! Dont hesitate, we are only on this ride once
@@stunnedmulletblah9714 there's all sorts of people being born every day and all of them are essential. That's why some literally reach the stars and some don't, but all are necessary. These people aren't defective, a person is only defective if they lack compassion (this thought doesn't apply to "psychopaths"). These people just need a little extra help, but so does everyone. Just the thing they need help is different from what others need.
I agree. I had to disconnect myself from a toxic friend I knew for over a quarter of a century recently because the victim mentality was dragging me down.
Autism, schizophrenia, abusive parents, and in general a horrific childhood have left me so damaged, that only recently in my 30s have I come to realize what happened to me, and how disastrous it's been to my development. Now I have to pick up the pieces of what's left of my life, and move forward into a broken and worsening economy, a broken divided society. all while I come to grips with my true self. It's tragic, but there's a strange beauty to it somehow!?
@@deadinside8781 he said "psychology propaganda". A great deal of psychology is not demonstrable or able to be replicated. There is a lot of propaganda in this area. Autistic people tend to obsess and hyper fixate, so whay I take from this is "keep open mind and don't rely solely on one thing to become well".
A huge problem becomes neglecting easy mundane tasks like making doctor appointments, maintenance on your car, etc. if you’re doing it to the small stuff you’re definitely doing it on the big stuff. Anxiety can play a big role. It can be a coping mechanism to neglect and distract. The more you neglect the easier it becomes.
Ooooh I really like how you wrote this. Especially, “if you’re doing it to the small stuff you’re definitely doing it on the big stuff.” Zammmmmmmmn dat hit. I mean the whole thing. Thank you for your input and perspective!
I found the cure to my neurosis by living and hiking, solo, in the Backcountry. Too many people, in any age of history, concentrated in small areas, creates all the conditions necessary for neurosis and madness.
My best friend was like that. He would go out in the bush for a week a few times a year and just get off grid. He was going through some tough times and disappeared. We all thought he went camping, but I called the police just in case. They found him im his condo dead. He committed suicide in 2019. RIP Dave.
It's no coincidence that urban areas experience more crime and mental illness per capita than rural areas. In fact, the only rural areas that come close to the ills of typical urban living are those with practically no employment base or economic opportunity.
After experiencing a malevolent act of violence in college, my neurosis died. Being physically alive, but mentally destroyed, and around individuals who couldn't help or comfort me because of their own fears and neurocies, pushed me to become an individual that first survived on their own, and then, thrives on her own.
Wow! You didn’t succumb to the usual victim think. That’s actually impressive. By far and away, most people simply don’t achieve a strong sense of individuality.
This channel's comments section is a psychologists gold mine, it's super fun to read through. I may be very critical here most times, but this is interesting stuff especially people's reactions to it, even my own sometimes.
The artwork presented during this discussion was both moving and inspirational. You found just the right representation for each of the points discussed. Thanks for presenting this.
not quite. there were no clearly female images until 8 mintes in. and jung's quotes are all abut "he", which was common place for his era, but do not speak to me.
This is exactly what I've been doing for the last 20 years of my life. I've been distancing myself from family, friends, and familiar places to find my authentic being. As Osho said: "An authentic man is a man of a rebellious spirit. He rebels against his own personality, whatever the cost. The personality is very useful, it's never rebellious, it's always a slave. Society supports your personality, hence the personality has become very powerful. There is nobody to support your individuality, hence individuality, which is your nature, which is your real power, which is your authentic being, remains in darkness, repressed."
Question is whether by distancing we are finding our authentic being or only our lonely being? Our personality is affected by society, true, but also by loneliness and any other kind of environment. Question, I think, then only becomes which kind of effects we would like? Getting away from society and people might be a good when your society and people around are bad, but that doesn't have to be the case.
@@sulosmolo1708 loneliness is an illusion. a mini script you categorize and box yourself in. a play you actively create in your mind. i dont believe in boredom, loneliness and other naming of emotional states. if you only identify being stimulated and excited as an ideal mode of functioning then boredom and loneliness or the opposite states thusly created. but if you dont mindlessly adhere to fluctuations of moods and just remain as is even with the barrage of disturbing thoughts, youd realize these thoughts are not that important and not to cause any distress or fear youre not gonna die by mild discomfort. you should not fear the thoughts nor become a mindless spirit following every compulsion or impulse. they were mostly a remnant of past memory. you can choose to act or not act
@@jJust_NO_ By loneliness I meant just simply being alone, not necessarily feeling alone. Both states have effects, they might differ but have effects anyway. One is just internal and another external condition, but bot conditions affect and influence us, or create us in some part if you will.
@@sulosmolo1708 yea it has its perks. humanity is lovely. i prefer loving them in distance but when i get to live one in particular for months, hatred and disgust ensue lol. but im stubborn. even if my mind tells me im lonely and bored, i stay put. caused me tremendous dissonance in that past and alot of confusion for not having a foot hold and solid stance on things and given situation. but i like to experiment and practice my theory so theres that. yet even my insights are not long lasting because i tend to forget a lot 😂
I find it really hard to take decisive action because I am never convinced of my thoughts. They run around in cascades and I never realize the actual thing that I want and should pursue. There is no agenda, no objective, no aim to fulfill. So the question how do I act is always keeping the blade on my neck and anxiety prevails. Anxiety in turn, reinforces destructive behavior and the circle gets going which can eventually lead to mental illness and even catastrophe. So it becomes important to keep taking some kind of action in our lives to keep ourselves away from the trap of thinking too much and questioning too much.
After my recent bad breakup I spent weeks alone in the woods hunting and fishing, it allowed me to reflect and fix myself internally, I've accepted it and now I'm ready to move on it was healthy to take that time to myself to figure things out although it might not be for everyone
It’s crazy how I came to understand this a while back by self reflecting. By not conforming to social norms, it has led me to be a happier person and feel fulfilled. This video is a confirmation of what I already knew. But yet, it feels good to know you are living the right way. Its also crazy seeing so many people be so full of staleness, and most times its because they confirm to social norms that in turn, deprive them of true individuality, true self, true freedom. But of course, there’s always a trade off, something to lose, something to give up, and this video describes some possible cons. But funny enough, your sanity outweighs most, to all cons. I say; always be yourself as long as you are not hurting anyone in any shape or form. Thanks for this video.
...we 'break down' so we can break-up with all that is corrupt....and break-on-thru- to the light we never knew...but felt it near, in silence we hear...this place within....let your truth begin....
Jung and other great thinkers firstly, followed their roads; often the roads rarely taken by others and to walk it alone, undistracted and unaffected by the glitter and trash of society.
@@Bacpakin Not true. All of them had the help of Giants. No great thinker could achieve something without others that walked the same road before and paved the way for them to go down those roads in a speed unpreceded before.
Honestly, it's been a very scary realization to me just how vastly dictatorial conformity has become as of late. It is now not only a focal point, but an entire focus entirely. People are now judged not on the content of their individual character, but by how well they can respond to conformist cues and essentially judging them based off a predisposed lens gaged by either media or politics. I have felt this sting for as long as I can remember. My interests were always off the beaten path not only in my interests with animals but my love of nature and love of the abstract. People will stare as if you're an alien the moment you explain what kind of animals you have at home, as if it is unfathomable that people could even own something that isn't a cat nor dog. Most people I talk to can't even grow any indoor plants and the moment I explain how I use plants as interior decoration there's a few moments of static or pause. It's scary to see just how much control has been exerted over people over the past twenty years. I know growing up in the 90's I didn't see this much pressure to conform, if anything there was still a strong counter-culture growing. Independence and individuality was king and seeking out one's personal path was considered the best possible solution even if you were going down a destructive path (it was good because it was _yours_). Now it seems the only thing truly motivating people is the color green and the slips of parchment it is printed on.
My grandma always had live plants indoors, and I could always breathe better and always seemed fresh. Christmas time was warm and comfortable and now I have live plants inside too. It shouldn't be weird, it's healthy
I don't understand when people say anything about being judged. Who are these people judging? I haven't interacted with anyone in many years. I don't think people do that anymore.
Sometimes to get happy, you owe it to yourself to do something that appears to be very, very stupid. Usually the journey that follows is a consciously lonely one at first: the inconvenient change of character (really the blooming of character) aside, your surroundings may accuse you of everything from stupidity to having feelings of grandeur. To friends and family members you usually represent a set of functions for their lives, so changes you go through can be inconvenient or threatening to them. Don't let people hold you back. Most people in your life have inconvenient traits too. Allow yourself to fail, preferrably with a stoic attitude and with a little dark humor on the side. Deal with the consequential feelings of loneliness properly: you were always that alone but now you are aware, and practically you need to establish new, improved, more satisfying and challenging relationships where you can participate in setting standards (instead of herited ones, or ones you outgrew). Better sorry than safe.
In the last years I finally got the courage to start living my life as I want to. Yeah, it's not perfect and I am not sure where I am going but I am living my life like I want to, true to myself. Even if everything fails I gave it my best and followed my gut. Yes, I lost people but they don't matter, the ones who do are still in my life. I have no regrets and no anxiety and depression.
@@ilikemaline Thank you for sharing that (very recognizable) personal experience. Also I'm glad to know you took away exactly what I tried to convey: I may sound like I got it all figured out, but I too tread (relatively) new, uncharted territory myself and I am never sure whether I found the right words to explain it. I try to look at failing like it's checking the fence for weak spots, to escape boundaries others set for me. Real failure is to stop trying and slide back down the hill of being a servant to other people's plans for their lives and yours. We can't be truly happy without serving other people, and we can't be happy if those others do not truly serve ours. It's delicate with rough edges. I needed to learn not only to dare inconveniencing people, but to do it in a way where everyone benefits in the (uncertain) end. That end (which is also a new beginning) may only be judged by the people who recognize what you are trying to do and stuck around long enough to benefit from - and enjoy - your new, improved self. Anyone who left you enjoyed the benefits of the traits that cause your anxiety and depression; not so much because they enjoy to see you suffer, but usually because they can't see past their own struggles. Or they just don't like change, regardless of the imperfections of their own current situation. Your changed behaviour often demands others to change as well, and lo and behold: their lives are usually very delicately balanced and fragile as well (or they wouldn't need you to stay the same person, however unhappy). The sense of healthy self doubt you experience when exploring new ideas can serve you well: the very same doubts that manifest in self exploration, you can project onto others. Growing better at questioning yourself (getting to know yourself) will inevitably result in growing better at questioning others (understanding others). If people need you to be something you are not: there's your proof that they have no more wisdom than you do. Thank you for your reply, for it inspires me and reassures me. And good luck!
@@jairkerker2821 I think we are being sold this idea that if we follow the norm we will be happy because that is the way to be. Society has figured everything out just obey and follow and don't dare to question anything. It's true that if you do as other people expect you to, you will get way more support if you fail than if you go your own path, then your failure is purely your own fault. But in reality nobody has a clue what they are doing and at this point we as a society are lost and really messed up and if we don't wake up I don't see this going anywhere good. We should be taking care of each other and all the creatures and nature around us. But instead we are experiencing some kind of collective psychosis where people are totally out of touch with everything, starting with themselves. And are super uncomfortable and get triggered if they encounter someone who dares to think out of the box. I think it's super important to fail and figure out what you don't want and just learn and grow from it. Like it was written in Delphi - know thyself that will give you power. I feel like even if it is scary and hard to go your own way, once you start you can't go back. Even if I would go back to the same lifestyle I had I would function in a totally different way. When you come to a breaking point and open your eyes there is just no way you can go back to sleep. :) Good luck to all of us!
@@ilikemaline It's intreging how I could have written myself what you just wrote. We have been born in an era where progress is presented as finished, and all we have to do to be considered an adult is to fit into the confines of that framework, while never questioning the framework itself. Devients ruin it for the masses, pop the bubble, and the masses are lead to forget that societies florished because of people who defy mere expectation. I have never been a good student, and fairly late in life I started to consider that it's because I have a deep interest in things they just don't teach in school and don't value in society. My interests are not money makers. Especially in the last few years I started to see the things that bothered me are not personal preferences of a spoiled, ungrateful person. I see the things I always worried about spiraling out of control and it's a bittersweet confirmation of my beliefs: I am happier than ever because I followed my moral compass, where my blood relatives for instance only now have to reap the bitter fruits of their choices, or lack thereof. I'm not an I-told-you-so-guy and rather see them happy, but I have to admit I'm glad I spend my time wisely in retrospect (and I am well equipped to guide my family members in their current struggles for it). I am the youngest and was always treated accordingly, so by helping them (once they open up, if ever), I work through the frustration of being dismissed for mere age. It's very true what you said about never returning once you depart. Only very little confirmation is needed to make me excited for what might come next, and to kill that promise feels like mental suicide. A return to a more natural world, defying hedonism and instant gratification and not growing sour due to the loneliness pays off. For some, the idea that the future is not set in stone is an unbearable thought though; for me it's a relief and a blessing. And conversations like this one, with possibly an ocean between us and never having met before, fills me with a joy and gratification that conformists will never experience. I am confident you'll thank yourself for the choice you made, and others will too eventually. Knowing yourself is an existential necessity for giving yourself, and that and handling delayed gratification will provide you with great intimate relationships, where you won't be judged on your shortcomings alone and will truly come as one. I love this one quote you probably have come across already, but still: "It's no measure of health to be well adjusted in a profoundly sick society." _~ Krishnamurti ~_
@@jairkerker2821 I think for years now I have no problems if people think I am a crazy, problematic woman (in general there is a huge issue how women are treated in this patriarchal society but that is a whole other story) because as you wrote, am I really suppose to strive to be adjusted to this insanity? How can a woman (also all people in general) who can think with her own head and speaks her mind be accepted and considered normal in an environment that tells you constantly to do the opposite? I am the ignored middle child in a family with A LOT of trauma and I had to work very hard to heal (some of) that and become the person I am today. I think it's healthy to distance yourself from toxic people even if that is your family, what I have done. In the past they had a very patronising attitude towards me, always guilt tripping me about the choices I was making - how dare I make them feel bad by not going the path everyone else is going?! But now that for example they see the mostly miserable lives of my cousins that lead "normal" lives they look at me totally differently and have stopped pushing there ideas on me. Even if they would, I don't care at this point. I only have a limited amount of energy and try to focus it on things that matter. I also went through some intense years of working through trauma and some kind of spiritual awakening, it was so hard but I found people that supported me through it and it was like a rebirth. The internet can be a very dark place but also amazing (it's a reflection of us really). I have super deep, interesting and meaningful conversations with total strangers so in the end it just shows you that deep down inside we are all alike and need connection. Yesterday I just finished reading "After the ecstasy, the laundry" that kind of reflects most of the things we are talking about and just the phase in my life I am in. We all need some confirmations and support from other people so it is easier to continue our path and to know we are not alone in this. And we are all together in this mess.
It seems to be a paradox (or, perhaps a koan): in order for us to live happy, meaningful lives we should think of others first; in order to be able to effectively think of others first, we must think of ourselves first.
@@phaedrussmith1949 until further consideration i am positive the answer is in the Holy Spirit and God's courts of justice unseen by mankind as of yet, but i cannot describe but i think CAN describe what the spiritual world is NOT
As someone who is 'a neurotic' from PTSD and panic disorder, I feel like all of this is very simplified. It has wisdom in it, but distilling down complex things into easy answers would surely make someone miss out on important clues to a neurotic mindset. I tend to like stoicism, it makes a lot of sense to me, though sometimes it can be too vague where psychology can be too narrow.
That may be the cost of short form summaries of Jung’s work. I’ve read 4 of Jung’s collective works and each is intertwined almost. Ideas building on other ideas. His ‘psychological types’ book for example is fascinating, because 80% is devoted to the history of his hypothesis, with just a chapter talking about his formulation of introvert and extravert. Having read a small portion of his work, these videos are less simple as it activates what I’ve read already whilst listening! I suspect those that haven’t read Jung may, as you suggest, fill people with a half baked cake in understanding neuroses.
Erich Fromm said, “We consume, as we produce, without any concrete relatedness to the objects with which we deal; We live in a world of things, and our only connection with them is that we know how to manipulate or to consume them” Just because millions of people share the same forms of mental pathology does not make these people sane. We probably all just in a mass state of psychosis.
I have to agree with you. We participate in runaway consumerism that is depleting the resources and contaminating our air, water and food. And we do this for the almighty dollar which we can neither drink, breathe or eat.
I always find it interesting how few people recognize that the choice to conform is in response to: 1) individuals and institutions alike undermining our trust in ourselves because we then let go of our own intuitions on how to behave and think; 2) then enforcing adoption of expected behaviors (conformity) through punishment, which triggers a fear-based response. This in turn shuts off our ability to think critically (metacognition) Any desire to know just how pervasive this is and how little we recognize how often we engage in the need to dominate others using these 2 activities, watch the video again. Words like "cowardly, laziness and stupidity" are shaming words that undermine your trust in yourself. As Einstein once said "You can't fix a problem using the same method that created it in the first place." So judging, shaming and punishing others leads to conformity and neuroticism. Thus using them to force change DOES NOT WORK. Instead, be gentle and be curious. Ask questions on why you behave the way you do. This disengages the amygdala from dictating your responses (which are very limited) and instead teaches you metacognition that provides better understanding and many, many options for better ways to engage with the world.
So you believe Jung is incorrect? That it isn't caused by avoiding a problem and using, what you call shaming words, to avoid the problem? Fear shouldn't be a trait that's elevated in society. The person is the one using those as an excuse to avoid the problem they don't want to face. It's not someone shaming them. It's not something anyone outside of the individual can fix. If you're stuck in limbo because you refuse to face your problem, being forgiving of your actions won't help at all and will just continue the cycle. Einstein was a physicist, not a psychologist. So his advice on how to solve a scientific problem, isn't applicable to a mental problem. Edit: I don't believe you understand that those words aren't to shame, but are traits caused by attempting to avoid the problem. It's for the psychologist to recognize those traits in a patient, help the patient see those aren't positive traits and figure out the problem they are avoiding or avoided at some point in their lives that's causing them. While nonconformity is fine, you still have to be able to function within society.
As far as I have scrolled down the comments, your was the only one that shows some maturity in thinking beyond the usual black-and-white mentality people are displaying in the comments. I have not paid highly critical, 100% attention to the video, but there is already a contradiction(on a base level) in the theory this video stating, 1. People who dont adhere to social norms, and dont perform their duties suffer due to social expulsion 2. People who conform too much to social norms, suppressing their individuality, suffer due to not being in touch with oneself Now, if there's one thing I have learnt in life, current truth can seem contradictory, due to a persons inability to distinguish between the context between the two true statements. I admire Jung ever since I heard his theory on the shadow within oneself. He's the first person, that I have noticed mention it, and it resonated alot. And what I mean with this is, I'm sure he might had some particular insight to differentiate between the two contexts, which I'm not sure, but I dont think is explored in this video. Words like "cowardly, laziness and stupidity" are shaming words that undermine your trust in yourself - I believe this to be true, atleast in my case. The way I describe it, "language is a medium that transmits emotions", and these words have nothing positive/nurturing in its nature. Maybe it might work on some people who like to abuse themselves, and they may find value in it(arguably), but that person is not me. Bottomline - Life is complex. Which means we will falter alot, fail alot and miss the mark often. There is nothing abnormal, or unsightly about it. Accept it, and free yourself from pre-conditioned shackles that you have to win at everything to live a worthwhile life.
@@debanydoombringer1385 Your comment shows you know very little about human nature. Claiming Einstein's comment doesn't relate to human behavior is even more head scratching. His statement is about HUMAN BEHAVIOR when solving problems. Totally relates. So if I call you "ignorant", are you going to consider this recognition of a problem you face and are now going to go right out and work on that? I bet not. I bet it will trigger your amygdala, activate your fight/flight response and produce a defensive response back. This is why shaming, criticism and judgment, just as spanking, confinement, prison, the death sentence and any other punishment humans can think up, doesn't work to guide human behavior. It is the very thing that drives conformity....it is punishment and thus it is abuse, keeps your amygdala engaged while shutting off insight from your prefrontal cortex. Go do some research on the difference between authoritarian vs. authoritative parenting. Might open your eyes some.
This video came to me at the right time in my life. Your videos are amazing and they always are so relevant to my struggles with modern living and just being human. Thank you again 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Forget social validation. Conformity can also arise from fear of letting others down or being selfish. (Fear of disappointing or hurting parents by separating from them for example.) This too needs to be overcome and can be much harder depending on the person.
That is a huge part of it. When you feel like a victim in any situation and have no hope for a resolution it is a natural response to feel anxious. And when that anxiety becomes chronic is when the psyche starts to break down.
Neurosis also springs from not bonding with our mothers when we're infants as well, either because she's harried, busy, absent, or just plain neurotic herself. Babies learn how to ground their emotions through the soothing connection to a calm, confident, and happy mother. We need to create a society that nurtures mothers or we are all doomed to insanity. Cause even if we ourselves manage to cling to emotional control, the swarming, neurotic crabs in the barrel will pull us down and eat us alive. Look no further than what the hysterics did during covid - even those of us who didn't buy into the fear mongering where so attacked, distracted, and gaslit, bullshitted, and passive aggressively bullied, it's a wonder anyone can think straight now. And this idea that people can take a pill to avoid anxiety is insane. Anxiety is a warning that something is wrong. A signal that things need to change. Like when a driver is speeding recklessly down the highway, forcing other drivers into ditches, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ANXIOUS. It's a signal they need to slow down and be more careful, not pop a pill and hit the accelerator. And the pill poppers who are driving everyone else into the proverbial ditch don't pay a price until they're forced to. They're totally cool with their behavior - they took a pill. Raising obnoxious kids - someone else's problem, just pop a pill. Making risky trades on Wall Street with someone else's money - no problem, why should you feel anxious about your risky behavior - pop a pill. Insert any situation where someone is causing exponential stress to others, but not feeling it themselves in a manner that would cause them to change their behavior. You are supposed to feel crappy when you do crappy stuff or ignore problems until they become disasters. The whole functioning of life on this planet is geared toward correcting bad situations to avoid creating anxiety in the first place. P.S. And what's the meme? before you diagnose yourself as having anxiety/depression, first make sure you aren't just surrounded by assholes.
You nailed it Cynthia! How many human Matriarchal societies have flourished on this planet. I can't think of a one. Nurturing females need to keep males destructive tendencies in check. But I fear it's too late for that.
@@roberthornack1692 I don't think that matriarchy has anything to do with it. Women are more anxious at Nature and therefore need emotionally stable partners who can calm their fluctuating emotions (And not be burdened with the responsibility of bread winning while having to Care for their children and potentially even their weak husband)
@@olddirtybastiat3915 🤣🤣 "fluctuating emotions" could be taken as misogynist. I'm a 64 yr old woman, and agree with your comment mostly. Women are more anxious by nature, thier offspring rely on it. Fluctuating emotionns, is just the natural way emotions are regardless of gender. Men deal with thier fluctuating emotions differently. And as you say , genderlessly 😉"need emotionally stable partner's"
Watching this made me realise I think I’m neurotic. I get very anxious whenever I think about the future and so I procrastinate and distract myself from making decisions. I dropped out of uni and now I’m scared of what to do with my life. I don’t wanna stay with my parents for too long as I think it will only limit me from becoming my own person. Watching this made me realise i need to properly tackle the decisions and problems in my life head on and stop ignoring them, that’s the only way I’ll be able to grow and overcome this fear of living that I seem to have. I’ve become too comfortable in this monotonous existence and I can see myself slipping back into bad habits.
Throughout my twenties I thought of myself as an outsider, strange, rebellious, creative and overall unique. With age and life experience I finally found joy and contentment finding my faith in Christianity, being a traditional homemaker, mother and artist. After a decade of fighting against a conservative identity, I am more creative as an artist and comfortable expressing my individuality after letting go of the presumed identity I had decided I should be.
I lived like this as a kid and teen. I was always an individual but that pain within that caused the necrosis, because I was judged. I think it was when I got to 10th grade I stopped caring. Within being myself and not conforming from an early age on, I have always felt free. I don't care what others think about my non comformity. I have a set routine but do whatever I want in that routine outside of work and everyday is different.
As always another excellent and thought expanding discussion. I like the way you expanded the need for the young adult to break away from the parents in order to cultivate the sense of self; this pairs well with the video, Why Are Most Men Psychologically Infantile. Plus the concept that not all people can fit into the opressive box of conformity is spot on. One of the best channels on YT.🌟🌟🎉🎉
There are many people, as Jung pointed out, who have a well adapted life and still remain neurotic unless they are well adapted to their own inner selves. There are also many who are not well adapted to life at all but, thanks to their inner understanding of themselves, are not neurotic. This leads me to believe that the road of becoming more aligned with the social duties of the outside is not a real solution, but only a momentary substitute. Jung comments that even well adapated individuals when older experience a psycholgical crysis which forces them to severely alter their values and give more importance to their inner demons in the later half of life. I feel like there's a confusion when it comes to these issues. Molding oneself "according to outer requirements" is important, however only to the extent that these requirements are rooted in one's own collective unconscious, meaning that they are, in fact, part of their inner self as much as they are part of society. When certain duties, however, are merely the result of subjective social demands then I doubt an adaptation to them will lead to any progress. I know Jung might have disagreed but these are my thoughts thus far.
Regarding the social duties and subjective social demands, this can be looked at in a simpler way. While they do seem to be "a momentary substitute" and "not a real solution", they can represent small victories for one who feels he is doomed to failure. These small victories build upon one another and will become habit. An example is the person who is institutionalized, and the importance of making ones own bed each morning. Awareness, responsibility (to ones self, also), and order (order not to be confused with compulsive order and control).
I am and always have been highly neurotic. I feared taking any steps in life because I couldnt face making a mistake I would regret, which was ironically a mistake I would regret. I went to trade college at 26 and I'm 30 now with a career. I still have not moved out of my mothers home and I look for homes but I struggle to confirm if I am not moving out because of my fathers passing and the terrible housing market, or because I am submitting to the neurotic fears in my head.
Yup. Unfulfillment and expectations set on one’s self is self destructive and sometimes overbearing to where we can become our own worst enemies. So many inner factors trying to achieve outside results and much more else that it is a complex and very difficult issue to overcome and to find a solution for. Excellent video here
With this talk in mind, it seems to me a big problem we have in America is the pursuit of happiness. A overemphasis of this goal has produced a population of people motivated largely that vote for the politicians that will give them the most of what they do not work for, relieving them of the responsibility of caring for their fellow man! It is man’s lot in life to enjoy his labor!
I feel like I started to deviate from my neurosis the moment I decided to develop my musical and software engineering skills altogether whilst ignoring more of what others might think and keeping a consistent exercise routine and occasional fasting. It felt so big of a challenge but I have been feeling the difference. Thanks for this video
That was intense! Thank you for this video; I had been struggling with pretty much this very thing for a long while, and this shone light on the cracks I had been neglecting.
This is just absolutely great stuff on these videos.They seem objective and non biased (if there are such things) and cover the basic tennants of the subject matter. It's rare in this tumultuous day and age to find things being spoken of in such a critical thinking kind of way that most people are able to relate to and grasp!
Fitting into a Neurosis ;Society has established,can be the end of humanity as we know it... Living in a bubble to avoid the outside world has become a major coping mechanism for those in Society who know the Truth about this World!!!!
This is so fascinating. I always find myself circling back to the teachings of Jung and Freud because of their introspection. Me forcing myself to conform is what brought out my most neurotic traits. Recently un my life, attempting to conform leftme with wretching anxiety. I've never experienced anything like that and it really jarred me. After exercise and meditation, I realized It was the forced conformity that made me inherently fearful. Essentially fearful of never being understood because I never even understood myself. It's fascinating, but the video rings true in the end. The only way I was able to come back to myself was to have an ego death. I came to realize I never saw myself without a mask, which forced my individual self forward. The clarity only came to me when I realized embracing the individual self is the equivalent of the molecules separating each drop of water in an ocean. Our connection is the human condition, Our division is how we perceive external stimuli based on the body and personality we occupy.
yungs analysis for his patient quoted at 4:20 i feel like could help so many people. repressing your initial thoughts because they are "socialy unaccepted" and replacing them with something nice and easy going is something most of us do. this leading to anxiety makes sense because that initial "energy/emotion" has to go somewhere, so it gets into your body and you feel anxious. showing your true colors is often frowned upon. i hope we can all wake up from this disease called socialy accepted behavior and find our most authentic spirit once againg. #RejectHumanityImbraceMonkee
It's relieving and yet unnerving to hear segments of your own inner turmoil communicated in that deeply profound and philisophical way. Communication to others for me has always been disstressing or hopeless, feeling incomprehensible things with extreme self awareness yet being subjected to a incredibly debilitating awkward ego and dissociation as a coping method it leaves me utterly paralyzed to meaningful social interaction let alone the basic. I find myself lost for weeks for months at a time trying to find my conscious ground. Once I am found I'm flooded with awakenings and lust for life, alas it never lasts and I'm drawn back into my Neurotic state of empty.
Are you someone with avoidant personality disorder? Whatever it may be, you should consult with an expert to change this mindset. The good thing is you seem to have self awareness.
People are allowing all the false reality to get in their mind. It’s all fear, worry, and hopelessness that end up tearing you down. You have to shut it down. Life on this planet is wonderful!
Having a strong and vibrant spiritual life will help with FEAR! And realizing we can’t control everything or be like everyone else is essential. The TV, mockingbird media and mind control, through all social media can be thrown in the trash. Live YOUR life! And not through others.”It’s not by might or by power, but by my spirit saith the Lord” ( I also stay away from controlling religious doctrines) as it can be just as bad) Take the road less travelled. Be rigorously honest with ones self is crucial. Being responsible and not blaming others for outcomes helps with this. A painful yet necessary process
I love Carl Jung and his extensive knowledge of the human psyche, but I think this video does a great disservice for people who battle mental illness. I read some disheartening comments on not becoming a victim and learning to take responsibility for actions, which only reinforces societal beliefs that mentally ill people just need to snap out of it, or simply grow up. It is simplifying an incredibly complex myriad of symptoms, which in turn feeds the unhealthy stigma that they are simply neurotic, instead of looking at the person as an individual who has suffered most of their lives. Especially individuals with Complex PTSD who experienced multiple traumatic events in their lives that then leads them to become what you define "neurotic" but in reality, they're fighting with every bit of strength they have to understand themselves and keep them alive.
It's funny, if you sit down and relax while pondering life's challenges, you're depressed. If you're constantly busy, which most mothers are, then we're trying to create a distraction from life situations. If you're express yourself, then you're a winch, a jerk, or expressing anxiety. If you smile, you're an easy target, if you frown, then your negative, if you visit with people, then you're a narcissist, if you isolate yourself, then you're a hermit, there are so many diagnosis, that it's creating way too much confusion for the general population. In other words, there's nothing wrong sitting on the couch contemplating life. There is nothing wrong with being busy as long as it's productive, accomplishing something that needs to get done, giving space for possibly new projects which will provide growth. So you're not necessarily lazy if you're taking a break, you're not necessarily ADHD if you're trying to organize your home, if you say no to things, it doesn't make you selfish, if you say yes to things, it doesn't make you codependent. I think someone needs to come out with a video and be flat out honest about how we are all unique and different, how we handle stress in different ways, and provide better and realistic ways for people to handle stress. If someone feels like organizing their life, or doing a puzzle, it certainly seems much better than going out and getting drunk, partying with drugs, being promiscuous, and living a dangerous lifestyle. The reality is, people just need to find balance, and that balance is going to be different for each person. You never know, while somebody's organizing they may be learning about things they need to understand, they might be listening to something funny, or music that uplifts them. Someone who is sitting on the couch may have very wonderful creative thoughts, giving them themselves time to think about their life, while someone else might actually be working on a project, giving them more hope, instead of sitting around doing nothing, or becoming numb. In other words, we need to see more things on everyone's RUclips channels or other social media talking about finding the balance that can be done in all different ways. Find rest and whatever way works for you. Find joy and whatever way works for you. Work hard in the most effective way at whatever floats your boat. Receive inspiration and a higher spiritual way of thinking in whatever way you choose. These are the things that bring balance.
Those feelings of anxiety stem from something deeper-anxiety/depression is the response. “The Body Keeps The Score” by Bessell Van Der Kolk started my journey to claiming my life and sanity back. I no longer carry all the health baggage I had at 30, I’m 34 and doing great!
The truth is that is impossibile in our society to be sane. The sense of life is in its-self. Stop thinking you must give it a sense, a purpose, a goal outside of you, in another time, in the future, or in another place. This fuels the neurosis. If the society were right, you did not have the problem to be accepted by the others. It is a fact we are living in a wrong, brutal society. Free yourself.
the world has gotten so crowded that the essence of being got completely lost, we dont see us as brothers and sisters anymore, how could we, nowadays its everyone for himself (and his closest family to an extent) We are not part of the world anymore, the world is ours, and it shall better do as we command, and if it doesnt we will make it so that it does, no matter the consequences Its a collective neurosis
I think i belong to the latter type. I had always been the person who tried all one could to meet the social's standard. It was not until last year that I decided to give myself more time to enjoy little things in life, live slower, sleep sooner and eat healthier because i was so depressed and couldnt take it anymore. Life did take a change for me but as i didnt invest as much time in my study as before, my grades did go down and i am also worried about this and even want to live back the previous lifestyle to achieve more, meet the social's standard. This video is such a remider for me to not conform to the norm, and live the happy life that i want. Thank you so much for making this incredible video.
This may just be the most powerful info in a vid that I've ever heard and I found it after just examining myself a week earlier and coming to the same conclusion, the validation is power
5:48 this point becomes very interesting when you place it within a contemporary context. It’s thought that for boys, a strong attachment to mother is important during the early years, but what must occur afterwards, is that that attachment must be loosened (for lack of a better term) so that he can adapt to the wider world, which will demand more independence, more courage, more self confidence if this boy is to develop and get on successfully in the wider world. Mother does not see her boy in terms of toughness, confidence, risk taker. She sees him as delicate and precious, which she must do in order to endow him with all the love, caring, and unlimited patience a small boy needs. It’s easy to see that where these things are beneficial to a young boy, they are not quite so for one that is reaching teenage hood. Father is required for this task. Father does not see his growing boy as delicate, and precious. He sees the future warrior, or hero, who is endowed with courageousness, determination, self confidence etc. and it’s part of the fathers roll to pry him away from his mothers doting, and lead him down different paths that mother cannot go. And I truly believe based on experience that there is much truth to this. But the interestingly sad thing is that today, divorce rates are so high. Not nearly so In Jung’s day. Today, so many boys loose access to their father before his roll is properly played out. And because of this, many boys grow up without ever detaching from mothers expectations of delicate preciousness. They remain in the realm of, “don’t try this, it’s too dangerous”. When really, healthy risks are an important part of a boys rights of passage into adulthood. Today we have a problem with men who are anxious, and emotionally fragile. And these men defend against having to acknowledge that fact by engaging in behaviours that facilitate the denial of that part of their reality. And if this leads to neuroticism, as Dr. Jung suggests, than the lack of fathers who remain close to their sons when their example is needed most, could have a lot to do with it. The very same thing goes for girls, it’s just the opposite. Father sees his little girl as precious and delicate-mother understands more what she should be capable of, and to what degree her delicate nature ends, and her resilience begins. Same same.
The problem I have been avoiding is enrolling in my masters program, rather than face this issue head on, I binge watch channels like this..needless to say my anxiety’s been pretty high lately.
I’m a non conformist and let me tell you, people don’t like it! I don’t do it for them. I do it because it HURTS me to not be true to myself and I may be helping someone else that is suffering like me. There’s always another way!! These videos are awesome! Especially if u really reflect and question yourself and your motives.
It is a frightening thing sometimes, to look at yourself in the mirror in the quiet of your home. That man looking back at me, behind his sad expression is a grinning menace. How strange we modern humans are, there is hardly any good example of psychological health which allows our own comparison. Subjectivism in a Kantian world, I suppose. Oh Aristotle, how beautiful your philosophy is to me now.
Lack of thought into my own psyche is the cause of my anxiety. Carrying around thought that greatness is a must for me is my crutch to keep myself busy. The influence of money and status creates a vicious cycle of illness to my mind of me that is well known, though handicapped through the need to be great.
For those that Tldr applies: First outward neurotic person needs to "get out and be social mmmmkay?". Second person suffering from inward source neuroticism needs to "stop being an npc and let yourself be human mmmmkay?".
Firstly there is no need to "get social" because whether they want it that way or not everyone is already there. People need food and water to survive, even the schizophrenic Unabomber was social. He still went out, still bought water and food from stores, therefore was still social. Secondly, your argument to stop being a npc (non player character) and be human, well, you're a far better player in the videogame from the outside of society than in the confines within it. This is also representative of your statement to be connected to the human element. Well, despite how common it is for people to socialize, it's also a common human element to desire your alone time. So your very statement is replete with contradictions.
I had become quite neurotic and after realizing this, followed by a big struggle to mentally free myself, I started to finally do the work. My depression and constant anxiety stopped without meds and a woke ass Psychiatrist or Psychologist to prescribe them, through choice followed by actions. Stop disrespecting yourself, start living in congruence with your true self.
I have this bizarre problem where I think I am too low for my interests and hobbies. Self doubt that puts me in a loop of thinking I need to improve somehow in order to commit to a trip or project. So I never get anything done and my time management is poor and so I feel unfulfilled in life and can't comprehend stressful situations that pop up. This video made me realize I need to stop this delusional train of thought and understand I am enough, what I love makes me who I am and to follow my heart. Life is short.
Everyone is a few missed paychecks away from catastrophe. Just like before money, everyone was a bad harvest away from catastrophe. At least now the government will give you money so you don't have to worry about starving unlike then and if you lose your job you can get unemployment. Easiest and most comfortable time to be alive in history and people acting like it's the 1500s and a swarm of locusts has arrived.
@@debanydoombringer1385you’re 100% right when it comes to how hard physically life was back then but mentally right now being a human means you’re getting military grade psychological operations incessantly throw at you via technology/Mass media which in itself is purposely aimed as eroding any and all confidence in the population. You can always say just don’t watch/ turn on technology which is true but it’s very difficult to see your whole family and friends become inundated into a world that’s a complete false reality. People in the 1500’s didn’t have to deal w this.
I understand what you mean when you say Jung believed that neuroticism was linked to conformity, but I think it is better to say that Jung believed neuroticism stemmed from living a life the individual is not naturally suited for. This is why the quote in the beginning speaks to both "normal" and "abnormal" individuals seeking their opposites. The third to last quote supports this as well, as it is all about the "right path." The difficulty is that there is no real "abnormal" and "normal" box for one to try to identify their personality with. Each individual may be "normal" in some behaviors and "abnormal" in others. The journey is trying to identify what parts of you may have been repressed or altered to survive a particular environment - as coping mechanisms are a psuedo adaptation and it would be unfair to suggest otherwise - so that you may begin to create a less stressful ecology of practices for yourself. Less stress, less abrasion from your conscious mind trying to control your instinctual behavior will reduce neuroticism.
"Is there a cause and effect relationship between too much conformity and neurotic illness?" After living in Japan for 25 years, I can unreservedly, unequivocally say "Hell yeah there is!"
Wow this video’s extremely well made and explained. Trust me, I know a lot of people with personalities that’s completely based off of things from the societal norms or the media. Interacting with people those somehow exhaust me, all they talk abt are stuff that’s already been talked about, or some other unnecessary stuff that’s not even 1% helpful to know. I completely understand and worry how easy it is for us humans to conform into neurotics due to the privileged circumstances we are given, and I agree, it is important for us humans to create and accept our human individuality; therefore, what distinguishes us humans from dogs is the human faculty to think and create an unique personality.
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More importantly why are so many people narcisists.
@Tammy I don't know if, more importantly. But definitely at the top of the list. A narcissist is just a spoiled selfish child in adult form. We have many factors to thank for this.
I am convinced you are the first intelligent ai
@@Odo-so8pj Christopher lasch did one on that
@@Odo-so8pj It like as Religion died, Narcissism arose somehow,...
Lack of exercise and bad nutrition was my problem. 70% of my anxiety gone now.
💯 Start by correcting the foundations. So many people are unaware of this.
Load of rubbish I do this and still have bad anxiety
@@Anonymous-gf1ho Changing to a different less potent and cleaner caffeine source makes the transition easier.
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Physical discomfort grows body and cleanses the mind.
For me, working in a physically intensive worksite is more rewarding, than the $20 gym. Not only the work pays off in both ways, but you can eat as many types of sugary foods and carbs, and STILL lose bodily fat.
And OH LORD, the euphoria, after the job is done, come back home and sip soft coffee while classical music plays in the background AND taking the moment to look out the window... dude... Now I can't wait to recreate it all for tomorrow. Night night 🌃😴
For a decade or so starting from age 5 one is taught that obedience to authority is the only way to be "good". The suppression of natural urges for the purpose of appeasing authority is the root of a lot of anxiety.
Same as me. Took me many years to understand it. Authority is not always right ( understatement of the year ) and not aiming to the so called greater good, but to the benefit of elites. Knowing is half the battle, I still struggle with this... even if now I understand.
Humanity will literally allow nukes to start flying in Ukraine to appease authority.
Theres a difference between obedience and being a respectful person. A respectful person is aware of their conformity, and chooses to conform rather than be led blindly. A defient person defys authority out of pure emotion and no actual critical thought of why they should or should not conform. That's just how I see it.
@@coke8077 couldn't of put it better myself.✌️
A decade or so? I'd say at least the last 4 or 5 decades if not more. Really, the whole education system for quite some time, generally. Would one want to separate worldly authority from metaphysical authority? Not being cheeky, but generally curious of people's ideas.
So to sum up:
Don't avoid difficult decisions and actions. Take responsibility
Don't limit yourself to people's norms and expectations. Follow your heart
mm no, can't really just sum it all up as that. Quite vague
Follow what is true. Uphold your principles. Interrogate your feelings.
@@Edemayy
It's a pretty good summary actually. Its essentially what was said
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Hell is the absolute withdrawal into the abyss of the isolated self. An internal restriction of the prideful self for eternity.
Pride is the fixation of the exterior self on itself.
Heaven is communal ontology. Christianity series of humiliations of the false, illusory and fabricated self. Metanoia, kenosis and the joy of self forgetting.
The tragedy of modern man is that his intelligence, his spirituality and his contemplative independence have been inoexorably throttled by his OWN superego which has sold itself without compromise to technology.
The false self or superego is the infantile and introverted substitute for conscience.
If we foresake the vestiges of wisdom for the empty headed crowing of advertisers and engineers of opinion, then there is nothing left for mankind but total INSANITY.
Religion is nature's revenge on Intelligence burial of its mystical roots.
Dont adopt a victim mentality, it will never serve you any good. Be courageous, be bold, and build your strength and character by tackling what you fear head on... Its time! Dont hesitate, we are only on this ride once
😂😂😂😂😂😂ok....get real...superman
I have always been an independent thinker yet I raised a neurotic young son. Aaarrgghh so frustrating
@@stunnedmulletblah9714 there's all sorts of people being born every day and all of them are essential. That's why some literally reach the stars and some don't, but all are necessary. These people aren't defective, a person is only defective if they lack compassion (this thought doesn't apply to "psychopaths"). These people just need a little extra help, but so does everyone. Just the thing they need help is different from what others need.
I agree. I had to disconnect myself from a toxic friend I knew for over a quarter of a century recently because the victim mentality was dragging me down.
@@stunnedmulletblah9714 maybe you're not as good of a parent as you think you are
Autism, schizophrenia, abusive parents, and in general a horrific childhood have left me so damaged, that only recently in my 30s have I come to realize what happened to me, and how disastrous it's been to my development.
Now I have to pick up the pieces of what's left of my life, and move forward into a broken and worsening economy, a broken divided society. all while I come to grips with my true self.
It's tragic, but there's a strange beauty to it somehow!?
stop watching too much psychology propaganda.
thats a start..
youre just heavily stimulated and becoming a broken record
autism and schizophrenia are horrible curses to the one who suffers from it but a great gift to humanity that lead us to be this advance.
@@jJust_NO_ oof when someone calls science propaganda.
@@deadinside8781 he said "psychology propaganda". A great deal of psychology is not demonstrable or able to be replicated. There is a lot of propaganda in this area. Autistic people tend to obsess and hyper fixate, so whay I take from this is "keep open mind and don't rely solely on one thing to become well".
Sounds like you are on the right track. 💜🕊️🌅
A huge problem becomes neglecting easy mundane tasks like making doctor appointments, maintenance on your car, etc. if you’re doing it to the small stuff you’re definitely doing it on the big stuff. Anxiety can play a big role. It can be a coping mechanism to neglect and distract. The more you neglect the easier it becomes.
For real 🥲
scorched earth neurotica
Ooooh I really like how you wrote this. Especially, “if you’re doing it to the small stuff you’re definitely doing it on the big stuff.” Zammmmmmmmn dat hit. I mean the whole thing. Thank you for your input and perspective!
The more you neglect, the more you suffer.
I found the cure to my neurosis by living and hiking, solo, in the Backcountry. Too many people, in any age of history, concentrated in small areas, creates all the conditions necessary for neurosis and madness.
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Connecting with Nature - YES!
yeah, getting out in the bush and just letting go of problems bounded to us by humanity is a cleansing experience.
My best friend was like that. He would go out in the bush for a week a few times a year and just get off grid. He was going through some tough times and disappeared. We all thought he went camping, but I called the police just in case. They found him im his condo dead. He committed suicide in 2019. RIP Dave.
It's no coincidence that urban areas experience more crime and mental illness per capita than rural areas. In fact, the only rural areas that come close to the ills of typical urban living are those with practically no employment base or economic opportunity.
After experiencing a malevolent act of violence in college, my neurosis died. Being physically alive, but mentally destroyed, and around individuals who couldn't help or comfort me because of their own fears and neurocies, pushed me to become an individual that first survived on their own, and then, thrives on her own.
Wow! You didn’t succumb to the usual victim think. That’s actually impressive. By far and away, most people simply don’t achieve a strong sense of individuality.
@@Torrque Thank you. 😊
Good for YOU!
Thank you. Exactly what I needed to hear. God bless you and yours and everyone who reads this in Jesus name. ❣
@@cryyss29 Amen hotep
This channel's comments section is a psychologists gold mine, it's super fun to read through. I may be very critical here most times, but this is interesting stuff especially people's reactions to it, even my own sometimes.
Neurotic... a great descriptive word that pretty much covers the state of people's minds, over the last several years.
Yeah no shit
The artwork presented during this discussion was both moving and inspirational. You found just the right representation for each of the points discussed. Thanks for presenting this.
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lots of the artwork here is from the garden of earthly delights by hieronymus bosch! ♡
I thought the artwork was creepy
not quite. there were no clearly female images until 8 mintes in. and jung's quotes are all abut "he", which was common place for his era, but do not speak to me.
This is exactly what I've been doing for the last 20 years of my life. I've been distancing myself from family, friends, and familiar places to find my authentic being.
As Osho said: "An authentic man is a man of a rebellious spirit. He rebels against his own personality, whatever the cost. The personality is very useful, it's never rebellious, it's always a slave. Society supports your personality, hence the personality has become very powerful. There is nobody to support your individuality, hence individuality, which is your nature, which is your real power, which is your authentic being, remains in darkness, repressed."
Question is whether by distancing we are finding our authentic being or only our lonely being? Our personality is affected by society, true, but also by loneliness and any other kind of environment. Question, I think, then only becomes which kind of effects we would like? Getting away from society and people might be a good when your society and people around are bad, but that doesn't have to be the case.
I had a narcissistic toxic family system, cutting ties was an absolute blessing and the beginning of freedom and happiness. :D
@@sulosmolo1708 loneliness is an illusion. a mini script you categorize and box yourself in. a play you actively create in your mind.
i dont believe in boredom, loneliness and other naming of emotional states.
if you only identify being stimulated and excited as an ideal mode of functioning then boredom and loneliness or the opposite states thusly created. but if you dont mindlessly adhere to fluctuations of moods and just remain as is even with the barrage of disturbing thoughts, youd realize these thoughts are not that important and not to cause any distress or fear
youre not gonna die by mild discomfort. you should not fear the thoughts nor become a mindless spirit following every compulsion or impulse.
they were mostly a remnant of past memory. you can choose to act or not act
@@jJust_NO_ By loneliness I meant just simply being alone, not necessarily feeling alone. Both states have effects, they might differ but have effects anyway. One is just internal and another external condition, but bot conditions affect and influence us, or create us in some part if you will.
@@sulosmolo1708 yea it has its perks. humanity is lovely. i prefer loving them in distance but when i get to live one in particular for months, hatred and disgust ensue lol.
but im stubborn. even if my mind tells me im lonely and bored, i stay put.
caused me tremendous dissonance in that past and alot of confusion for not having a foot hold and solid stance on things and given situation.
but i like to experiment and practice my theory so theres that. yet even my insights are not long lasting because i tend to forget a lot 😂
I find it really hard to take decisive action because I am never convinced of my thoughts. They run around in cascades and I never realize the actual thing that I want and should pursue. There is no agenda, no objective, no aim to fulfill. So the question how do I act is always keeping the blade on my neck and anxiety prevails. Anxiety in turn, reinforces destructive behavior and the circle gets going which can eventually lead to mental illness and even catastrophe. So it becomes important to keep taking some kind of action in our lives to keep ourselves away from the trap of thinking too much and questioning too much.
pick one and do it start small
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absolutely, picking the wrong path is better than picking no path at all.
Ah ha..you getting close:
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You are not in touch with your feelings.
My favorite neurosis: "Worrying about not having anything to worry about"
That is just a distraction from an overwhelming feeling.
If you consume fear, you become the fear 👉Dominion (2018)🔥
That sounds like a blessing compared to my worries.
That hurts too hard...
I’ve been trying to explain how I feel for years, now I can just show people this video. It’s so accurate.
After my recent bad breakup I spent weeks alone in the woods hunting and fishing, it allowed me to reflect and fix myself internally, I've accepted it and now I'm ready to move on it was healthy to take that time to myself to figure things out although it might not be for everyone
It’s crazy how I came to understand this a while back by self reflecting. By not conforming to social norms, it has led me to be a happier person and feel fulfilled. This video is a confirmation of what I already knew. But yet, it feels good to know you are living the right way. Its also crazy seeing so many people be so full of staleness, and most times its because they confirm to social norms that in turn, deprive them of true individuality, true self, true freedom. But of course, there’s always a trade off, something to lose, something to give up, and this video describes some possible cons. But funny enough, your sanity outweighs most, to all cons.
I say; always be yourself as long as you are not hurting anyone in any shape or form.
Thanks for this video.
Always a journey for the deepest mind. Thank you!
Didn't know I'd be having a mild break down this afternoon but I guess surprises are fun.. Great video as always man. 💜
I have the glue ready.
@@toxicmale2264 🥺
...we 'break down' so we can break-up with all that is corrupt....and break-on-thru- to the light we never knew...but felt it near, in silence we hear...this place within....let your truth begin....
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Jung is one of the thinkers whose work is not paid the attention it deserves. His wisdom had no parallel.
What do you mean. Him and Freud are universally known.
@@u2beuser714
are you being racist here or do i misunderstand?
Jung's work is studied from pretty much start to finish of psychology. Many others too, but he certainly gets a lot of attention.
Jung and other great thinkers firstly, followed their roads; often the roads rarely taken by others and to walk it alone, undistracted and unaffected by the glitter and trash of society.
@@Bacpakin Not true. All of them had the help of Giants. No great thinker could achieve something without others that walked the same road before and paved the way for them to go down those roads in a speed unpreceded before.
Honestly, it's been a very scary realization to me just how vastly dictatorial conformity has become as of late. It is now not only a focal point, but an entire focus entirely. People are now judged not on the content of their individual character, but by how well they can respond to conformist cues and essentially judging them based off a predisposed lens gaged by either media or politics.
I have felt this sting for as long as I can remember. My interests were always off the beaten path not only in my interests with animals but my love of nature and love of the abstract. People will stare as if you're an alien the moment you explain what kind of animals you have at home, as if it is unfathomable that people could even own something that isn't a cat nor dog. Most people I talk to can't even grow any indoor plants and the moment I explain how I use plants as interior decoration there's a few moments of static or pause.
It's scary to see just how much control has been exerted over people over the past twenty years. I know growing up in the 90's I didn't see this much pressure to conform, if anything there was still a strong counter-culture growing. Independence and individuality was king and seeking out one's personal path was considered the best possible solution even if you were going down a destructive path (it was good because it was _yours_). Now it seems the only thing truly motivating people is the color green and the slips of parchment it is printed on.
We are truly kindred thinkers. Have you read much of Edward Abbey? His book, 'Desert Solitaire', can give you much solace in these times.
@@Bacpakin
My current course was charted predominantly by Alchemists so I will need to look this one up, thanks!
My grandma always had live plants indoors, and I could always breathe better and always seemed fresh. Christmas time was warm and comfortable and now I have live plants inside too. It shouldn't be weird, it's healthy
I don't understand when people say anything about being judged. Who are these people judging? I haven't interacted with anyone in many years. I don't think people do that anymore.
Very good read, thank you!
Sometimes to get happy, you owe it to yourself to do something that appears to be very, very stupid.
Usually the journey that follows is a consciously lonely one at first: the inconvenient change of character (really the blooming of character) aside, your surroundings may accuse you of everything from stupidity to having feelings of grandeur.
To friends and family members you usually represent a set of functions for their lives, so changes you go through can be inconvenient or threatening to them.
Don't let people hold you back.
Most people in your life have inconvenient traits too.
Allow yourself to fail, preferrably with a stoic attitude and with a little dark humor on the side.
Deal with the consequential feelings of loneliness properly: you were always that alone but now you are aware, and practically you need to establish new, improved, more satisfying and challenging relationships where you can participate in setting standards (instead of herited ones, or ones you outgrew).
Better sorry than safe.
In the last years I finally got the courage to start living my life as I want to. Yeah, it's not perfect and I am not sure where I am going but I am living my life like I want to, true to myself. Even if everything fails I gave it my best and followed my gut. Yes, I lost people but they don't matter, the ones who do are still in my life. I have no regrets and no anxiety and depression.
@@ilikemaline Thank you for sharing that (very recognizable) personal experience.
Also I'm glad to know you took away exactly what I tried to convey: I may sound like I got it all figured out, but I too tread (relatively) new, uncharted territory myself and I am never sure whether I found the right words to explain it.
I try to look at failing like it's checking the fence for weak spots, to escape boundaries others set for me.
Real failure is to stop trying and slide back down the hill of being a servant to other people's plans for their lives and yours.
We can't be truly happy without serving other people, and we can't be happy if those others do not truly serve ours. It's delicate with rough edges.
I needed to learn not only to dare inconveniencing people, but to do it in a way where everyone benefits in the (uncertain) end.
That end (which is also a new beginning) may only be judged by the people who recognize what you are trying to do and stuck around long enough to benefit from - and enjoy - your new, improved self.
Anyone who left you enjoyed the benefits of the traits that cause your anxiety and depression; not so much because they enjoy to see you suffer, but usually because they can't see past their own struggles.
Or they just don't like change, regardless of the imperfections of their own current situation.
Your changed behaviour often demands others to change as well, and lo and behold: their lives are usually very delicately balanced and fragile as well (or they wouldn't need you to stay the same person, however unhappy).
The sense of healthy self doubt you experience when exploring new ideas can serve you well: the very same doubts that manifest in self exploration, you can project onto others.
Growing better at questioning yourself (getting to know yourself) will inevitably result in growing better at questioning others (understanding others).
If people need you to be something you are not: there's your proof that they have no more wisdom than you do.
Thank you for your reply, for it inspires me and reassures me.
And good luck!
@@jairkerker2821 I think we are being sold this idea that if we follow the norm we will be happy because that is the way to be. Society has figured everything out just obey and follow and don't dare to question anything. It's true that if you do as other people expect you to, you will get way more support if you fail than if you go your own path, then your failure is purely your own fault.
But in reality nobody has a clue what they are doing and at this point we as a society are lost and really messed up and if we don't wake up I don't see this going anywhere good. We should be taking care of each other and all the creatures and nature around us. But instead we are experiencing some kind of collective psychosis where people are totally out of touch with everything, starting with themselves. And are super uncomfortable and get triggered if they encounter someone who dares to think out of the box.
I think it's super important to fail and figure out what you don't want and just learn and grow from it. Like it was written in Delphi - know thyself that will give you power.
I feel like even if it is scary and hard to go your own way, once you start you can't go back. Even if I would go back to the same lifestyle I had I would function in a totally different way. When you come to a breaking point and open your eyes there is just no way you can go back to sleep. :)
Good luck to all of us!
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It's intreging how I could have written myself what you just wrote.
We have been born in an era where progress is presented as finished, and all we have to do to be considered an adult is to fit into the confines of that framework, while never questioning the framework itself.
Devients ruin it for the masses, pop the bubble, and the masses are lead to forget that societies florished because of people who defy mere expectation.
I have never been a good student, and fairly late in life I started to consider that it's because I have a deep interest in things they just don't teach in school and don't value in society. My interests are not money makers.
Especially in the last few years I started to see the things that bothered me are not personal preferences of a spoiled, ungrateful person.
I see the things I always worried about spiraling out of control and it's a bittersweet confirmation of my beliefs: I am happier than ever because I followed my moral compass, where my blood relatives for instance only now have to reap the bitter fruits of their choices, or lack thereof.
I'm not an I-told-you-so-guy and rather see them happy, but I have to admit I'm glad I spend my time wisely in retrospect (and I am well equipped to guide my family members in their current struggles for it).
I am the youngest and was always treated accordingly, so by helping them (once they open up, if ever), I work through the frustration of being dismissed for mere age.
It's very true what you said about never returning once you depart.
Only very little confirmation is needed to make me excited for what might come next, and to kill that promise feels like mental suicide.
A return to a more natural world, defying hedonism and instant gratification and not growing sour due to the loneliness pays off.
For some, the idea that the future is not set in stone is an unbearable thought though; for me it's a relief and a blessing.
And conversations like this one, with possibly an ocean between us and never having met before, fills me with a joy and gratification that conformists will never experience.
I am confident you'll thank yourself for the choice you made, and others will too eventually.
Knowing yourself is an existential necessity for giving yourself, and that and handling delayed gratification will provide you with great intimate relationships, where you won't be judged on your shortcomings alone and will truly come as one.
I love this one quote you probably have come across already, but still:
"It's no measure of health to be well adjusted in a profoundly sick society."
_~ Krishnamurti ~_
@@jairkerker2821 I think for years now I have no problems if people think I am a crazy, problematic woman (in general there is a huge issue how women are treated in this patriarchal society but that is a whole other story) because as you wrote, am I really suppose to strive to be adjusted to this insanity? How can a woman (also all people in general) who can think with her own head and speaks her mind be accepted and considered normal in an environment that tells you constantly to do the opposite?
I am the ignored middle child in a family with A LOT of trauma and I had to work very hard to heal (some of) that and become the person I am today. I think it's healthy to distance yourself from toxic people even if that is your family, what I have done. In the past they had a very patronising attitude towards me, always guilt tripping me about the choices I was making - how dare I make them feel bad by not going the path everyone else is going?! But now that for example they see the mostly miserable lives of my cousins that lead "normal" lives they look at me totally differently and have stopped pushing there ideas on me. Even if they would, I don't care at this point. I only have a limited amount of energy and try to focus it on things that matter. I also went through some intense years of working through trauma and some kind of spiritual awakening, it was so hard but I found people that supported me through it and it was like a rebirth. The internet can be a very dark place but also amazing (it's a reflection of us really). I have super deep, interesting and meaningful conversations with total strangers so in the end it just shows you that deep down inside we are all alike and need connection. Yesterday I just finished reading "After the ecstasy, the laundry" that kind of reflects most of the things we are talking about and just the phase in my life I am in.
We all need some confirmations and support from other people so it is easier to continue our path and to know we are not alone in this. And we are all together in this mess.
This channel is free, yet is the most valuable insight and motivational therapy available. :) Awesome.
I just found it today and can’t believe how inspirational it is!
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on the begining, the man told us there is a paid version of his another 71+ videos, some of the titles look like quite interesting
Carl Jung knew most of us far better than we ourselves ever will.
its everyones duty to get to know themselfs.
Because he was one of us, and you can be too!
It seems to be a paradox (or, perhaps a koan): in order for us to live happy, meaningful lives we should think of others first; in order to be able to effectively think of others first, we must think of ourselves first.
@@phaedrussmith1949 until further consideration i am positive the answer is in the Holy Spirit and God's courts of justice unseen by mankind as of yet, but i cannot describe but i think CAN describe what the spiritual world is NOT
By "Most of us" perhaps, but even then, that's extremely assumptive and disrespectful.
As someone who is 'a neurotic' from PTSD and panic disorder, I feel like all of this is very simplified. It has wisdom in it, but distilling down complex things into easy answers would surely make someone miss out on important clues to a neurotic mindset. I tend to like stoicism, it makes a lot of sense to me, though sometimes it can be too vague where psychology can be too narrow.
That may be the cost of short form summaries of Jung’s work. I’ve read 4 of Jung’s collective works and each is intertwined almost. Ideas building on other ideas. His ‘psychological types’ book for example is fascinating, because 80% is devoted to the history of his hypothesis, with just a chapter talking about his formulation of introvert and extravert. Having read a small portion of his work, these videos are less simple as it activates what I’ve read already whilst listening! I suspect those that haven’t read Jung may, as you suggest, fill people with a half baked cake in understanding neuroses.
I feel like this video is also full of biases.
LETS GO! Carl Jung content is always welcomed❤ its good day today
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Erich Fromm said, “We consume, as we produce, without any concrete relatedness to the objects with which we deal; We live in a world of things, and our only connection with them is that we know how to manipulate or to consume them”
Just because millions of people share the same forms of mental pathology does not make these people sane. We probably all just in a mass state of psychosis.
I have to agree with you. We participate in runaway consumerism that is depleting the resources and contaminating our air, water and food. And we do this for the almighty dollar which we can neither drink, breathe or eat.
@@elonever.2.071 close but not there yet...
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But we are still working real hard on it.
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“Millions of people...”
Ummm, try BILLIONS.
I’m not necessarily implying that we are doomed but mostly, we are a very ailing species.
I always find it interesting how few people recognize that the choice to conform is in response to:
1) individuals and institutions alike undermining our trust in ourselves because we then let go of our own intuitions on how to behave and think;
2) then enforcing adoption of expected behaviors (conformity) through punishment, which triggers a fear-based response. This in turn shuts off our ability to think critically (metacognition)
Any desire to know just how pervasive this is and how little we recognize how often we engage in the need to dominate others using these 2 activities, watch the video again. Words like "cowardly, laziness and stupidity" are shaming words that undermine your trust in yourself. As Einstein once said "You can't fix a problem using the same method that created it in the first place." So judging, shaming and punishing others leads to conformity and neuroticism. Thus using them to force change DOES NOT WORK. Instead, be gentle and be curious. Ask questions on why you behave the way you do. This disengages the amygdala from dictating your responses (which are very limited) and instead teaches you metacognition that provides better understanding and many, many options for better ways to engage with the world.
Thank you
So you believe Jung is incorrect? That it isn't caused by avoiding a problem and using, what you call shaming words, to avoid the problem? Fear shouldn't be a trait that's elevated in society. The person is the one using those as an excuse to avoid the problem they don't want to face. It's not someone shaming them. It's not something anyone outside of the individual can fix. If you're stuck in limbo because you refuse to face your problem, being forgiving of your actions won't help at all and will just continue the cycle. Einstein was a physicist, not a psychologist. So his advice on how to solve a scientific problem, isn't applicable to a mental problem.
Edit: I don't believe you understand that those words aren't to shame, but are traits caused by attempting to avoid the problem. It's for the psychologist to recognize those traits in a patient, help the patient see those aren't positive traits and figure out the problem they are avoiding or avoided at some point in their lives that's causing them. While nonconformity is fine, you still have to be able to function within society.
As far as I have scrolled down the comments, your was the only one that shows some maturity in thinking beyond the usual black-and-white mentality people are displaying in the comments. I have not paid highly critical, 100% attention to the video, but there is already a contradiction(on a base level) in the theory this video stating,
1. People who dont adhere to social norms, and dont perform their duties suffer due to social expulsion
2. People who conform too much to social norms, suppressing their individuality, suffer due to not being in touch with oneself
Now, if there's one thing I have learnt in life, current truth can seem contradictory, due to a persons inability to distinguish between the context between the two true statements.
I admire Jung ever since I heard his theory on the shadow within oneself. He's the first person, that I have noticed mention it, and it resonated alot.
And what I mean with this is, I'm sure he might had some particular insight to differentiate between the two contexts, which I'm not sure, but I dont think is explored in this video.
Words like "cowardly, laziness and stupidity" are shaming words that undermine your trust in yourself - I believe this to be true, atleast in my case.
The way I describe it, "language is a medium that transmits emotions", and these words have nothing positive/nurturing in its nature. Maybe it might work on some people who like to abuse themselves, and they may find value in it(arguably), but that person is not me.
Bottomline - Life is complex. Which means we will falter alot, fail alot and miss the mark often. There is nothing abnormal, or unsightly about it. Accept it, and free yourself from pre-conditioned shackles that you have to win at everything to live a worthwhile life.
@@debanydoombringer1385 Your comment shows you know very little about human nature. Claiming Einstein's comment doesn't relate to human behavior is even more head scratching. His statement is about HUMAN BEHAVIOR when solving problems. Totally relates.
So if I call you "ignorant", are you going to consider this recognition of a problem you face and are now going to go right out and work on that? I bet not. I bet it will trigger your amygdala, activate your fight/flight response and produce a defensive response back. This is why shaming, criticism and judgment, just as spanking, confinement, prison, the death sentence and any other punishment humans can think up, doesn't work to guide human behavior. It is the very thing that drives conformity....it is punishment and thus it is abuse, keeps your amygdala engaged while shutting off insight from your prefrontal cortex. Go do some research on the difference between authoritarian vs. authoritative parenting. Might open your eyes some.
Great point!
This video came to me at the right time in my life. Your videos are amazing and they always are so relevant to my struggles with modern living and just being human. Thank you again 🙏🏼🙏🏼
I feel you.
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Forget social validation. Conformity can also arise from fear of letting others down or being selfish. (Fear of disappointing or hurting parents by separating from them for example.) This too needs to be overcome and can be much harder depending on the person.
Being to comfortable can damage one’s potential. Look for challenges, uncomfortable situations, and then one will grow.
So far, this is your best work. Bravo.
It's called SOCIAL ENGINEERING.
In-particular, the Internet and "Drive-thru Therapy"
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Awesome video, and it's because all of our news breeds fear and uncertainty, and those without self reflection eat up that stuff and become neurotic
That is a huge part of it. When you feel like a victim in any situation and have no hope for a resolution it is a natural response to feel anxious. And when that anxiety becomes chronic is when the psyche starts to break down.
Being up to date with the news has allowed me to feel more in touch with society and reduced my neurosis actually
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While all true, we ARE in a war.
Ignoring that fact is being a zombie.
@@OurFreeSociety true
Neurosis also springs from not bonding with our mothers when we're infants as well, either because she's harried, busy, absent, or just plain neurotic herself. Babies learn how to ground their emotions through the soothing connection to a calm, confident, and happy mother. We need to create a society that nurtures mothers or we are all doomed to insanity. Cause even if we ourselves manage to cling to emotional control, the swarming, neurotic crabs in the barrel will pull us down and eat us alive. Look no further than what the hysterics did during covid - even those of us who didn't buy into the fear mongering where so attacked, distracted, and gaslit, bullshitted, and passive aggressively bullied, it's a wonder anyone can think straight now. And this idea that people can take a pill to avoid anxiety is insane. Anxiety is a warning that something is wrong. A signal that things need to change. Like when a driver is speeding recklessly down the highway, forcing other drivers into ditches, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ANXIOUS. It's a signal they need to slow down and be more careful, not pop a pill and hit the accelerator. And the pill poppers who are driving everyone else into the proverbial ditch don't pay a price until they're forced to. They're totally cool with their behavior - they took a pill. Raising obnoxious kids - someone else's problem, just pop a pill. Making risky trades on Wall Street with someone else's money - no problem, why should you feel anxious about your risky behavior - pop a pill. Insert any situation where someone is causing exponential stress to others, but not feeling it themselves in a manner that would cause them to change their behavior. You are supposed to feel crappy when you do crappy stuff or ignore problems until they become disasters. The whole functioning of life on this planet is geared toward correcting bad situations to avoid creating anxiety in the first place. P.S. And what's the meme? before you diagnose yourself as having anxiety/depression, first make sure you aren't just surrounded by assholes.
I agree with you!
You nailed it Cynthia! How many human Matriarchal societies have flourished on this planet. I can't think of a one. Nurturing females need to keep males destructive tendencies in check. But I fear it's too late for that.
Great comment. Thx
@@roberthornack1692 I don't think that matriarchy has anything to do with it. Women are more anxious at Nature and therefore need emotionally stable partners who can calm their fluctuating emotions
(And not be burdened with the responsibility of bread winning while having to Care for their children and potentially even their weak husband)
@@olddirtybastiat3915 🤣🤣 "fluctuating emotions" could be taken as misogynist. I'm a 64 yr old woman, and agree with your comment mostly. Women are more anxious by nature, thier offspring rely on it.
Fluctuating emotionns, is just the natural way emotions are regardless of gender. Men deal with thier fluctuating emotions differently. And as you say , genderlessly 😉"need emotionally stable partner's"
Watching this made me realise I think I’m neurotic. I get very anxious whenever I think about the future and so I procrastinate and distract myself from making decisions. I dropped out of uni and now I’m scared of what to do with my life. I don’t wanna stay with my parents for too long as I think it will only limit me from becoming my own person. Watching this made me realise i need to properly tackle the decisions and problems in my life head on and stop ignoring them, that’s the only way I’ll be able to grow and overcome this fear of living that I seem to have. I’ve become too comfortable in this monotonous existence and I can see myself slipping back into bad habits.
Throughout my twenties I thought of myself as an outsider, strange, rebellious, creative and overall unique. With age and life experience I finally found joy and contentment finding my faith in Christianity, being a traditional homemaker, mother and artist. After a decade of fighting against a conservative identity, I am more creative as an artist and comfortable expressing my individuality after letting go of the presumed identity I had decided I should be.
I lived like this as a kid and teen. I was always an individual but that pain within that caused the necrosis, because I was judged. I think it was when I got to 10th grade I stopped caring.
Within being myself and not conforming from an early age on, I have always felt free. I don't care what others think about my non comformity. I have a set routine but do whatever I want in that routine outside of work and everyday is different.
Lack of creativity...
The creation of the soul
Of the Self.
Of individuality.
Thanks! Keep them coming
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I love Carl Jung and his work! Thank you so much for this video!
As always another excellent and thought expanding discussion. I like the way you expanded the need for the young adult to break away from the parents in order to cultivate the sense of self; this pairs well with the video, Why Are Most Men Psychologically Infantile. Plus the concept that not all people can fit into the opressive box of conformity is spot on. One of the best channels on YT.🌟🌟🎉🎉
There are many people, as Jung pointed out, who have a well adapted life and still remain neurotic unless they are well adapted to their own inner selves. There are also many who are not well adapted to life at all but, thanks to their inner understanding of themselves, are not neurotic. This leads me to believe that the road of becoming more aligned with the social duties of the outside is not a real solution, but only a momentary substitute. Jung comments that even well adapated individuals when older experience a psycholgical crysis which forces them to severely alter their values and give more importance to their inner demons in the later half of life.
I feel like there's a confusion when it comes to these issues. Molding oneself "according to outer requirements" is important, however only to the extent that these requirements are rooted in one's own collective unconscious, meaning that they are, in fact, part of their inner self as much as they are part of society. When certain duties, however, are merely the result of subjective social demands then I doubt an adaptation to them will lead to any progress. I know Jung might have disagreed but these are my thoughts thus far.
Regarding the social duties and subjective social demands, this can be looked at in a simpler way. While they do seem to be "a momentary substitute" and "not a real solution", they can represent small victories for one who feels he is doomed to failure. These small victories build upon one another and will become habit. An example is the person who is institutionalized, and the importance of making ones own bed each morning. Awareness, responsibility (to ones self, also), and order (order not to be confused with compulsive order and control).
I am and always have been highly neurotic. I feared taking any steps in life because I couldnt face making a mistake I would regret, which was ironically a mistake I would regret.
I went to trade college at 26 and I'm 30 now with a career. I still have not moved out of my mothers home and I look for homes but I struggle to confirm if I am not moving out because of my fathers passing and the terrible housing market, or because I am submitting to the neurotic fears in my head.
Yup. Unfulfillment and expectations set on one’s self is self destructive and sometimes overbearing to where we can become our own worst enemies.
So many inner factors trying to achieve outside results and much more else that it is a complex and very difficult issue to overcome and to find a solution for.
Excellent video here
A great and intellectually stimulating video as always 👏🏾
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Thanks!
With this talk in mind, it seems to me a big problem we have in America is the pursuit of happiness. A overemphasis of this goal has produced a population of people motivated largely that vote for the politicians that will give them the most of what they do not work for, relieving them of the responsibility of caring for their fellow man! It is man’s lot in life to enjoy his labor!
Your videos have helped me out so much. Thank you!
So pertinent. No wonder why so many relevant authors follow Jung's statements.
Thank you for this channel, I'm absolutely addicted❤
I feel like I started to deviate from my neurosis the moment I decided to develop my musical and software engineering skills altogether whilst ignoring more of what others might think and keeping a consistent exercise routine and occasional fasting. It felt so big of a challenge but I have been feeling the difference. Thanks for this video
One of the most interesting videos I've ever seen. Brings a sense of seld undersranding that ive been seeking lately
That was intense! Thank you for this video; I had been struggling with pretty much this very thing for a long while, and this shone light on the cracks I had been neglecting.
This is just absolutely great stuff on these videos.They seem objective and non biased (if there are such things) and cover the basic tennants of the subject matter. It's rare in this tumultuous day and age to find things being spoken of in such a critical thinking kind of way that most people are able to relate to and grasp!
Fitting into a Neurosis ;Society has established,can be the end of humanity as we know it... Living in a bubble to avoid the outside world has become a major coping mechanism for those in Society who know the Truth about this World!!!!
Well what do you expect from a narcissistic specie that only thinks of itself & has diminished the world's creatures to only 4%
This is so fascinating. I always find myself circling back to the teachings of Jung and Freud because of their introspection.
Me forcing myself to conform is what brought out my most neurotic traits. Recently un my life, attempting to conform leftme with wretching anxiety. I've never experienced anything like that and it really jarred me. After exercise and meditation, I realized It was the forced conformity that made me inherently fearful. Essentially fearful of never being understood because I never even understood myself.
It's fascinating, but the video rings true in the end. The only way I was able to come back to myself was to have an ego death. I came to realize I never saw myself without a mask, which forced my individual self forward.
The clarity only came to me when I realized embracing the individual self is the equivalent of the molecules separating each drop of water in an ocean. Our connection is the human condition, Our division is how we perceive external stimuli based on the body and personality we occupy.
yungs analysis for his patient quoted at 4:20 i feel like could help so many people. repressing your initial thoughts because they are "socialy unaccepted" and replacing them with something nice and easy going is something most of us do. this leading to anxiety makes sense because that initial "energy/emotion" has to go somewhere, so it gets into your body and you feel anxious. showing your true colors is often frowned upon. i hope we can all wake up from this disease called socialy accepted behavior and find our most authentic spirit once againg. #RejectHumanityImbraceMonkee
It's relieving and yet unnerving to hear segments of your own inner turmoil communicated in that deeply profound and philisophical way. Communication to others for me has always been disstressing or hopeless, feeling incomprehensible things with extreme self awareness yet being subjected to a incredibly debilitating awkward ego and dissociation as a coping method it leaves me utterly paralyzed to meaningful social interaction let alone the basic. I find myself lost for weeks for months at a time trying to find my conscious ground. Once I am found I'm flooded with awakenings and lust for life, alas it never lasts and I'm drawn back into my Neurotic state of empty.
Are you someone with avoidant personality disorder? Whatever it may be, you should consult with an expert to change this mindset. The good thing is you seem to have self awareness.
Bro, this video resonated with my soul!!!! haha..will definitely watch again and ponder on it more!
Great work!!
This video helped me a lot. Thank you
Very thought provoking content
Best voice for this stuff on the tube! Thx guy's
Your channel is a sane voice like a light that cuts trough the darkness of our time. (not complaining, just aware :)
Finally, an explanation of my mother. She wasn't a narcissist; she was neurotic.
People are allowing all the false reality to get in their mind. It’s all fear, worry, and hopelessness that end up tearing you down. You have to shut it down. Life on this planet is wonderful!
Yes! 👏🏽👏🏽
If you consume fear, you become the fear 👉Dominion (2018)🔥
Realize that this is one of your best videos! It’s crucial and life saving!
Having a strong and vibrant spiritual life will help with FEAR! And realizing we can’t control everything or be like everyone else is essential. The TV, mockingbird media and mind control, through all social media can be thrown in the trash. Live YOUR life! And not through others.”It’s not by might or by power, but by my spirit saith the Lord” ( I also stay away from controlling religious doctrines) as it can be just as bad) Take the road less travelled. Be rigorously honest with ones self is crucial. Being responsible and not blaming others for outcomes helps with this. A painful yet necessary process
Beautifully said.
I love Carl Jung and his extensive knowledge of the human psyche, but I think this video does a great disservice for people who battle mental illness. I read some disheartening comments on not becoming a victim and learning to take responsibility for actions, which only reinforces societal beliefs that mentally ill people just need to snap out of it, or simply grow up. It is simplifying an incredibly complex myriad of symptoms, which in turn feeds the unhealthy stigma that they are simply neurotic, instead of looking at the person as an individual who has suffered most of their lives. Especially individuals with Complex PTSD who experienced multiple traumatic events in their lives that then leads them to become what you define "neurotic" but in reality, they're fighting with every bit of strength they have to understand themselves and keep them alive.
It's funny, if you sit down and relax while pondering life's challenges, you're depressed.
If you're constantly busy, which most mothers are, then we're trying to create a distraction from life situations.
If you're express yourself, then you're a winch, a jerk, or expressing anxiety.
If you smile, you're an easy target, if you frown, then your negative, if you visit with people, then you're a narcissist, if you isolate yourself, then you're a hermit, there are so many diagnosis, that it's creating way too much confusion for the general population.
In other words, there's nothing wrong sitting on the couch contemplating life. There is nothing wrong with being busy as long as it's productive, accomplishing something that needs to get done, giving space for possibly new projects which will provide growth.
So you're not necessarily lazy if you're taking a break, you're not necessarily ADHD if you're trying to organize your home, if you say no to things, it doesn't make you selfish, if you say yes to things, it doesn't make you codependent.
I think someone needs to come out with a video and be flat out honest about how we are all unique and different, how we handle stress in different ways, and provide better and realistic ways for people to handle stress. If someone feels like organizing their life, or doing a puzzle, it certainly seems much better than going out and getting drunk, partying with drugs, being promiscuous, and living a dangerous lifestyle.
The reality is, people just need to find balance, and that balance is going to be different for each person. You never know, while somebody's organizing they may be learning about things they need to understand, they might be listening to something funny, or music that uplifts them. Someone who is sitting on the couch may have very wonderful creative thoughts, giving them themselves time to think about their life, while someone else might actually be working on a project, giving them more hope, instead of sitting around doing nothing, or becoming numb.
In other words, we need to see more things on everyone's RUclips channels or other social media talking about finding the balance that can be done in all different ways.
Find rest and whatever way works for you. Find joy and whatever way works for you. Work hard in the most effective way at whatever floats your boat. Receive inspiration and a higher spiritual way of thinking in whatever way you choose. These are the things that bring balance.
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what a well-structured and informative video on neurosis.
Thanks a lot!
Love that.
Those feelings of anxiety stem from something deeper-anxiety/depression is the response. “The Body Keeps The Score” by Bessell Van Der Kolk started my journey to claiming my life and sanity back. I no longer carry all the health baggage I had at 30, I’m 34 and doing great!
One of the best videos I’ve watched in a while
The truth is that is impossibile in our society to be sane. The sense of life is in its-self. Stop thinking you must give it a sense, a purpose, a goal outside of you, in another time, in the future, or in another place. This fuels the neurosis. If the society were right, you did not have the problem to be accepted by the others. It is a fact we are living in a wrong, brutal society. Free yourself.
the world has gotten so crowded that the essence of being got completely lost, we dont see us as brothers and sisters anymore, how could we, nowadays its everyone for himself (and his closest family to an extent)
We are not part of the world anymore, the world is ours, and it shall better do as we command, and if it doesnt we will make it so that it does, no matter the consequences
Its a collective neurosis
I think i belong to the latter type. I had always been the person who tried all one could to meet the social's standard. It was not until last year that I decided to give myself more time to enjoy little things in life, live slower, sleep sooner and eat healthier because i was so depressed and couldnt take it anymore. Life did take a change for me but as i didnt invest as much time in my study as before, my grades did go down and i am also worried about this and even want to live back the previous lifestyle to achieve more, meet the social's standard. This video is such a remider for me to not conform to the norm, and live the happy life that i want. Thank you so much for making this incredible video.
This was enlightening! I wouldn't have guessed it, but I'm clearly neurotic. I have to reflect on this.
Just be yourself. AfterSkool made another Carl Jung video today was well, and gave a more comprehensible approach, which is to look within.
@@erikahuxley Thanks! Will check it out.
AWESOME YOUR CONTENT IS UNDER VALUED !!!
This may just be the most powerful info in a vid that I've ever heard and I found it after just examining myself a week earlier and coming to the same conclusion, the validation is power
The best purchase I have done, is becoming a supportive member. The time to be great is now. Thanks for the content.
5:48 this point becomes very interesting when you place it within a contemporary context.
It’s thought that for boys, a strong attachment to mother is important during the early years, but what must occur afterwards, is that that attachment must be loosened (for lack of a better term) so that he can adapt to the wider world, which will demand more independence, more courage, more self confidence if this boy is to develop and get on successfully in the wider world. Mother does not see her boy in terms of toughness, confidence, risk taker. She sees him as delicate and precious, which she must do in order to endow him with all the love, caring, and unlimited patience a small boy needs. It’s easy to see that where these things are beneficial to a young boy, they are not quite so for one that is reaching teenage hood. Father is required for this task. Father does not see his growing boy as delicate, and precious. He sees the future warrior, or hero, who is endowed with courageousness, determination, self confidence etc. and it’s part of the fathers roll to pry him away from his mothers doting, and lead him down different paths that mother cannot go.
And I truly believe based on experience that there is much truth to this. But the interestingly sad thing is that today, divorce rates are so high. Not nearly so In Jung’s day. Today, so many boys loose access to their father before his roll is properly played out. And because of this, many boys grow up without ever detaching from mothers expectations of delicate preciousness. They remain in the realm of, “don’t try this, it’s too dangerous”. When really, healthy risks are an important part of a boys rights of passage into adulthood.
Today we have a problem with men who are anxious, and emotionally fragile. And these men defend against having to acknowledge that fact by engaging in behaviours that facilitate the denial of that part of their reality. And if this leads to neuroticism, as Dr. Jung suggests, than the lack of fathers who remain close to their sons when their example is needed most, could have a lot to do with it.
The very same thing goes for girls, it’s just the opposite. Father sees his little girl as precious and delicate-mother understands more what she should be capable of, and to what degree her delicate nature ends, and her resilience begins. Same same.
Well said Jaymes.
Here we are, with you reading my diary again. Thank you for the incredible work
The problem I have been avoiding is enrolling in my masters program, rather than face this issue head on, I binge watch channels like this..needless to say my anxiety’s been pretty high lately.
I’m a non conformist and let me tell you, people don’t like it!
I don’t do it for them. I do it because it HURTS me to not be true to myself and I may be helping someone else that is suffering like me. There’s always another way!!
These videos are awesome! Especially if u really reflect and question yourself and your motives.
It is a frightening thing sometimes, to look at yourself in the mirror in the quiet of your home. That man looking back at me, behind his sad expression is a grinning menace.
How strange we modern humans are, there is hardly any good example of psychological health which allows our own comparison.
Subjectivism in a Kantian world, I suppose. Oh Aristotle, how beautiful your philosophy is to me now.
Lack of thought into my own psyche is the cause of my anxiety. Carrying around thought that greatness is a must for me is my crutch to keep myself busy. The influence of money and status creates a vicious cycle of illness to my mind of me that is well known, though handicapped through the need to be great.
The depth of self consciousness helps to avoid neurocism.
If I am self aware I can tackle the problems.
The greatest pain for man is knowing and seeing much but being unable to do anything to make a change
For those that Tldr applies:
First outward neurotic person needs to "get out and be social mmmmkay?".
Second person suffering from inward source neuroticism needs to "stop being an npc and let yourself be human mmmmkay?".
Mkayyyy
Firstly there is no need to "get social" because whether they want it that way or not everyone is already there. People need food and water to survive, even the schizophrenic Unabomber was social. He still went out, still bought water and food from stores, therefore was still social. Secondly, your argument to stop being a npc (non player character) and be human, well, you're a far better player in the videogame from the outside of society than in the confines within it. This is also representative of your statement to be connected to the human element. Well, despite how common it is for people to socialize, it's also a common human element to desire your alone time. So your very statement is replete with contradictions.
@@fishintheocean-i4g pretty sure he was being sarcastic
You are brilliant. Thank you Academy of Ideas
I had become quite neurotic and after realizing this, followed by a big struggle to mentally free myself, I started to finally do the work. My depression and constant anxiety stopped without meds and a woke ass Psychiatrist or Psychologist to prescribe them, through choice followed by actions. Stop disrespecting yourself, start living in congruence with your true self.
I have this bizarre problem where I think I am too low for my interests and hobbies. Self doubt that puts me in a loop of thinking I need to improve somehow in order to commit to a trip or project. So I never get anything done and my time management is poor and so I feel unfulfilled in life and can't comprehend stressful situations that pop up. This video made me realize I need to stop this delusional train of thought and understand I am enough, what I love makes me who I am and to follow my heart. Life is short.
life is slowly getting much much worse for millions of people, how is this surprising? Most of us are a few missed paychecks away from catastrophe
Everyone is a few missed paychecks away from catastrophe. Just like before money, everyone was a bad harvest away from catastrophe. At least now the government will give you money so you don't have to worry about starving unlike then and if you lose your job you can get unemployment. Easiest and most comfortable time to be alive in history and people acting like it's the 1500s and a swarm of locusts has arrived.
@@debanydoombringer1385 😂
must be nice to have paycheques. Haven't had one since 2020, and I'm fine, thank God!
@@debanydoombringer1385 Well said. And 🤣🤣🤣
@@debanydoombringer1385you’re 100% right when it comes to how hard physically life was back then but mentally right now being a human means you’re getting military grade psychological operations incessantly throw at you via technology/Mass media which in itself is purposely aimed as eroding any and all confidence in the population.
You can always say just don’t watch/ turn on technology which is true but it’s very difficult to see your whole family and friends become inundated into a world that’s a complete false reality.
People in the 1500’s didn’t have to deal w this.
I understand what you mean when you say Jung believed that neuroticism was linked to conformity, but I think it is better to say that Jung believed neuroticism stemmed from living a life the individual is not naturally suited for. This is why the quote in the beginning speaks to both "normal" and "abnormal" individuals seeking their opposites. The third to last quote supports this as well, as it is all about the "right path." The difficulty is that there is no real "abnormal" and "normal" box for one to try to identify their personality with. Each individual may be "normal" in some behaviors and "abnormal" in others. The journey is trying to identify what parts of you may have been repressed or altered to survive a particular environment - as coping mechanisms are a psuedo adaptation and it would be unfair to suggest otherwise - so that you may begin to create a less stressful ecology of practices for yourself. Less stress, less abrasion from your conscious mind trying to control your instinctual behavior will reduce neuroticism.
Well said!!!
I thought of an affirmation from what you wrote:
I create a healthy ecology of practices for myself. All is well in my world.
True I only ever hoped I could find a friend like you
Love all your videos! But I always get distracted by the background artwork. Lol. I just love the artwork!
Your videos are amazing
That last quote was beautiful.
"Is there a cause and effect relationship between too much conformity and neurotic illness?"
After living in Japan for 25 years, I can unreservedly, unequivocally say "Hell yeah there is!"
Why though
@@gytoser801 trying to fit into a sick society will make you sick yourself
Look up blood type and personality.
Wow this video’s extremely well made and explained. Trust me, I know a lot of people with personalities that’s completely based off of things from the societal norms or the media. Interacting with people those somehow exhaust me, all they talk abt are stuff that’s already been talked about, or some other unnecessary stuff that’s not even 1% helpful to know. I completely understand and worry how easy it is for us humans to conform into neurotics due to the privileged circumstances we are given, and I agree, it is important for us humans to create and accept our human individuality; therefore, what distinguishes us humans from dogs is the human faculty to think and create an unique personality.