Was Mr Patristix sweating buckets from his antipodean studio to produce this festive episode in suitably wintery attire in the middle of his Summer. If so, I salute his heroism.
I thank you so much my brother for what you do! God bless and keep you. At our small Orthodox Serbian church we play much of your videos to teach, exhort and inspire us. Again, I thank you. 😊
This is a good time to bring our Christianity back with traditional hymns vintage and modern. Wonderful time. Our World is in absolute need of our Christian faith. Our lord is calling all his children of all ages back to his teachings and faith. AMEN.✝️🙏🇬🇧☃️🎄❄️♥️🪽
Thank you for this video! St. Hillary of Poitiers also wrote the early version of the Nicene Creed, some version of which most Christians recite at Mass each week. His tomb is in St. Hillary's church in, of course, Poitiers. By God's Grace I have visited this Romanesque gem. I didn't know about the ancient hymn.
Thank you patristix, as a fellow Aussie, I really appreciate your videos as someone who is interested in converting to orthodoxy, I have learnt so much.
and more importantly, be a virtuous Nazarene: keep Christ in Christians-feed the hungry, heal the sick, forgive old grudges, give alms to the poor, make peace, be kind, be gentle. 🐟👁️☀️❤️
We used to sing this type of hymn in Lutheran churches in Germany until very recently (ca. 20 years ago) and I have always loved them, and still do, for their solemnity that fits the occasion and for their profound content. And also for their longstanding tradition. This has been discontinued, mostly in favor pseudo- meaningful texts in the manner of "let's look at the candles, they symbolise hope, so let us sing of hope and candles at christmastime." There are exceptions, of course, but the old (I mean older than 19th century) hymns are no longer sung... So, on a more positive note, I am challenging myself to post one Christmas carol on each day of Advent this year. And it would be wonderful if other people did the same! I began with " Veni redemptor gentium" (Ambrose of Milan, translated by Martin Luther). Please delete this comment if it is inappropriate to mention that here!! Just thought it might be of interest. - I came across your channel for the first time today and I'm glad I did!
Happy Christmas to all! Thank you for your presentation. So nice to know about these hymns. Wish more had been preserved; we do need to preserve the ones we have for future generations.
The slavic carols are incomparable. It's hard to decide which is the most beautful. Smultaneously stark and tender in their melodies. There is a Ukrainian (catholic) site from Canada which provides very adequate transltions of some of them to English and they are perfectly singable.
I didn't know that about Christmas kind of being lost. I attend an Orthodox church with my husband on 6th Jan. The singing is beautiful. They have local carols too, sometimes sing them with family.
The sect which banned Christmas under Cromwell's rule was so confounded by the Restoration (of the Monarchy, and of Christmas) they set sail from Plymouth, landed on Plymouth Rock, and invented Thanksgiving, with turkey, which became part of Christmas in the homeland.
Wonderful video and very informative! Thank you for helping to save past things from obscurity. BTW I believe "O Come O Come Emmanuel" has its origins going back about 1200 years. Technically, an Advent carol... It remains my favorite.
Thank You. The Birth of Jesus Christ is a Tremendous Gift, bestowed upon us by God, for He so Loved us and the World. Love really is our true and Divine Nature. Thank You God, Thank You Jesus. ❤❤❤❤
The 17th Century Roundhead ban on Christmas never reached the English colony of Virginia, which was staunchly anti-Cromwell and Royalist. Consequently, Christmas traditions were NEVER stifled in America. Moreover, there were German settlers (not only in Virginia, but also in the middle Atlantic colonies) who brought their great love of Christmas with them. Their traditions caught on quickly, including the tannenbaum. Consequently, Americans had Christmas trees more than a century before Prince Albert popularised them in England. Dickens loathed America and Americans, but he saw (although never acknowledged) many English Christmas traditions when he visited America that had been absent from England since the Roundheads. In any event, we owe Dickens and German Prince Albert (and his more or less German bride) a great debt of thanks for restoring a proper Christmas to England -- although NOT, as the video states, to the "English speaking world".
The Puritans banned Christmas, but the ordinary people generally ignored this. In several places, there were riots and shopkeepers who had stayed open on Christmas Day, as the law demanded, were likely to have their shops trashed by the mobs. It is a fallacy that people lost interest in Christmas. The 17th, 18th, and early 19th centuries maintained many traditions from previous centuries. What Dickens and Prince Albert did was to popularise certain elements of the celebrations. They did not reinvent Christmas.
In Dulci Jubilo (Good Christian Men Rejoice) and O Come Emmanuel are two of my favorites. I'd love to know more about their ages and how they worked within their times of writing theologically.
"O Come O Come Emmanuel" is based on the very ancient "O" antiphons which were sung (in Latin) before the Magnificat at Vespers during the week before Christmas. Each antiphon, sung on a different day, proclaims a title of Jesus as He comes into the world: O Root of Jesse; O Key of David; O Emmanuel (etc). The hymn lists these sacred titles verse by verse (but not in the original order). It's an extremely beautiful carol, and a favourite for almost everyone. "In Dulce Jubilo" is a mediaeval carol, originally in German, with the original tune set to harmony by the 17th century German composer Praetorius. Like many mediaeval English carols, Latin phrases alternate with vernacular ones. Our English translation of this carol (which I think is Victorian) alternates Latin and English in the traditional way. Both lovely carols!
I have been wanting to hear that carol for years because I love Christmas songs and I am sad that in modern times that we can't hear this Christmas song.
There are RUclips videos of cantors singing Byzantine chants for the Nativity: the words and music are profound and beautiful, but I suspect that some listeners used to Western Christmas carols might find the chanting strange and off-putting. I have never heard the hymn mentioned in this gentleman's video, but in every Orthodox church at this time you can hear the Nativity Kontakion of St Romanos the Melodist, from the 6th century (usually but not always in a modern setting): Today the Virgin gives birth to the Transcendent One, and the earth offers a cave to the Unapproachable One. Angels and shepherds glorify him; the Wise Men journey with the star, Since for our sake the eternal God was born as a little Child.
Your channel came up as suggested and I watched the one about the Heliand. I was delighted to see icons and an Orthodox cross on the wall behind you and thrilled to find you are Orthodox as am I. I love history as well so I have subscribed. Thank you for helping to save the history.
Christmas stands for love and forgiveness the world unites, joy enters the hearts peace enters. Christianity in its fullness is the greatest euphoric experience you will ever have. Christianity if practiced as written will make us a loving caring being a selfless one. No wars just love no one should go hungry nor die alone.
No serenade today, Mr Paristix? Im sure you have a lovely singing voice. 😁 Thank you for your videos. I learn so many new and interesting things about our beloved Church. God Bless!
One of my favorites and also one of the oldest is " Of the Father's Love Begotten", written in the 4th century by Aurelius Clemens Prudentius (348-413).
wonderful Christmas teas, i love all the warm sweet spices, but not the peppermint i found this really fascinating and i thought away in a manger was really old
Good video ive Always Loved Christmas Music & curious of it's origins. i am Agnostic But believe me i HUGE On Christmas have my whole Apt Decked out this year with Big Tapestries of the Manjor / Nativity and Christmas Angel Garden Flags.
Jesus Is The Reason For The Season! All Praise Honor And Glory To Yah Abba Father God Almighty In Yeshua Jesus Christ's Precious Saviour's Name Shalom And Amen!✝️✝️🛐🛐😇🌟🤗🙏🙏🙏🇨🇦🇬🇧🇮🇱♾️🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🦅❤️❤️❤️‼️
Merci beaucoup ! En France le nom commun "noël" designe un chant ancien composé pour cette fête (=carol in english). Outre certaines compositions liturgiques( abbaye St- Martial de Limoges, 12 ème s ), c'est surtout à partir des 15-16 ème qu'on trouve des noëls populaires du Poitou ou de Provence... Ainsi " Noël nouvelet" ou " Au saint Nau" remontant à la fin du Moyen - Âge...
The Troparion and Kontakion of the Nativity, liturgical hymns of the Orthodox Church, were composed by St. Romanos the Melodist in the 4th or 5th centuries. The present Byzantine tones are probably close to the music used by St. Romanos, but each Orthodox Church has developed its own settings based on its unique chant Tradition.
It is unlikely that you would ever find a Christmas song earlier than the late fourth century, because the Feast of the Nativity did not become a distinct feast until then. Prior to this, it was part of the combined Feast of Epiphany (25 December) in the West, called Theophany in the East (6 January). In the fourth centuries, there was an exchange of feasts, in which Nativity was established on 25 December, while the remnants of Epiphany/Theophany were assigned to 6 January.
I was sorry you didn't mention the contribution of the American, Washington Irving. His "Old Christmas" was, IMO, a big influence on Dickens' Christmas stories.
Very interesting. Thank you. Out of curiosity: what would be the oldest commonly used carol or hymn in general? At The Lamb’s High Feast must be up there.
You mentioned "... the Victoria Era ..." Hark the Herald Angels sing ..." was written over Christmas 1738 at St mary's Islington by Charles Wesley, George Whitfield, and a Martyn Maddan - the latter being a very young lad at the time. Good Hymn Books will acknowledge this - Hymns of faith being one of them.
Thank you for sharing this! Your profile says "Australia", but I think that's a South African accent I hear, am I correct? Merry Christmas from a Byzantine rite Catholic in Florida!
The oldest carols I know are Gaudete and Of the Father's Love Begotten. The former is still in Latin and the latter is probably translated from Latin. Is the St Hilary you mention the 4th century French Bishop? [feast day January 13].
Yeah I thought "Of the Father's Love Begotten" originally "Corde natus" was the earliest. Neat to learn otherwise, but I was a bit unclear what the name of Hilary's hymn was. Did I miss it? (Could it be Gloria in excelsis Deo as that looks to have been translated by Hilary of Poitiers. Also I do find very few common carols from before 1700.)
The Puritans, a sect of English Radical Protestants, banned Christmas (after murdering the Archbishop of Canterbury, William Laud). Referring to Puritans simply as ‘Protestants’ as if there were no difference between them and Anglicans or Lutherans is about like failing to distinguish between the miaphysite and duophysite communions in the East.
I was actually about to leave a similar comment, but you already did. Thank you. It's like how the Amish call all non-Amish people "The English" even if they are Japanese or Irish.
@@AlasPoorEngland Although miaphysitism and monophysitism have been prejudicioisly conflated by some historically (like the Puritans, ironically, who used the label ‘Eutychian’ to refer not only to miaphysite and monophysite Christologies but also to Lutheranism’s duophysite Christology), but most contemporary histories of theology rightly distinguish between miaphysitism and monophysitism. Both hold that Jesus as the incarnate Logos has only one nature (physis)-‘mia’ and ‘mono’ both come from forms of the Greek word for ‘one.’ To keep this comment relatively short, I must crudely summarize the difference between them like this: miaphysitism denotes theories that hold the incarnate Logos has one nature which is a perfect fusion of divine and human nature into one ‘new’ nature where the two natures are still virtually distinguishable, whereas monophysitism typically denotes theories where the two natures are fused such that the human nature has been “swallowed up” by the divine nature in their fusion. Miaphysitism is the doctrine of Christ held by the Coptic Orthodox and a handful of others (like the Armenians and Ethiopians), whereas monophysitism is, to my knowledge, rejected by all ecclesial bodies. Detailed discussions of each and their distinction can be found in Roman Catholic scholar Leo Donald Davis’ book _The First Seven Ecumenical Councils_ and Eastern Orthodox scholar John McGuckin’s _Saint Cyril of Alexandria and the Christological Controversy_ . If the Lutheran view is of any interest, Lutheran scholar David Scaer’s book _Christology_ contains a brief overview, and the Roman Catholic scholar Franz Posset’s book _Luther’s Catholic Christology_ gives a more detailed historical analysis.
@ Augustinian Sir, I must congratulate you on, and thank you for, the kind donation of your theological and historical learning and insight. The interaction of the divine and the human is beginning to be a topic of great interest and importance to me, so I must contemplate the mode of Our Lord’s miraculous incarnation, and the scholarly works you kindly cite will, I hope, enlighten me further. As we now embark on the season of Advent, culminating in the glorious birth, may I wish you every blessing for this time, and best wishes for a merry and blessed Christmas! (I suppose from your pen name you are a Western Christian, and will be celebrating on Dec. 25: so will I, although I have a hankering after the January 6 festival, and would like either to assist at an Orthodox service, or to visit Glastonbury to see how exactly the Holy Thorns there will display themselves!
Here is my paraphrase of the opening lines of St. Romanos Melodos' Christmas canticle ("I Parthenos Simeron"), to be sung as a verse added to "Child in a Manger": God above Heaven Born of a virgin; God beyond space Now sheltered on earth. This day is holy! Sing to the Saviour, Shepherds and angels Herald His birth. Anyone is welcome to sing this and distribute it.
Thank you for your preservation. Too much is forever lost to the past. All history needs to be preserved, especially during these times. Ron
Sharing this with my Lutheran friends! Beautiful and what a marvel that the Creator of the universe became a baby. 😄
"Sacred Infant, all divine,
what a tender love was Thine.
Thus, to come from highest bliss,
Down to such a world as this!"
beautiful! I love early Christian chants and songs!
Thank God there are those who preserve special items.
Was Mr Patristix sweating buckets from his antipodean studio to produce this festive episode in suitably wintery attire in the middle of his Summer. If so, I salute his heroism.
Right?!
Thank you! It wasn't quite hot enough to sweat buckets, but yes it is summer here and yes we chose a winter attire 😆 Keeping it Christmassy
@@hannahbaker3080 he lives in Australia, so it is summer now.
@@HabashyAngy yes, I know, thanks
I too live in the antipodes, and I can't hear air conditioning, so yes: absolutely sweating buckets.
Love that commitment
I watched your Christmas playlist the other day with 12 videos in it, now you HAVE A NEW CHRISTMAS VIDEO!!!!! I love it!
A couple more Christmas episodes yet to come this year!
@ yes!!!!!! Thanks for all you do
Christ is is Born! Glorify Him! ☦️
Amen ✝️
Christ is born and think on his compassion.
Amin
Καλα Χριστούγεννα. Χριστος γεννήθηκε!
I thank you so much my brother for what you do! God bless and keep you. At our small Orthodox Serbian church we play much of your videos to teach, exhort and inspire us. Again, I thank you.
😊
That is a VERY good idea for how to use these excellent videos ..
This is a good time to bring our Christianity back with traditional hymns vintage and modern. Wonderful time. Our World is in absolute need of our Christian faith. Our lord is calling all his children of all ages back to his teachings and faith. AMEN.✝️🙏🇬🇧☃️🎄❄️♥️🪽
Merry Christmas✝️
Great video. Cheers and Merry Christmas to all reading this.
Thank you for this video! St. Hillary of Poitiers also wrote the early version of the Nicene Creed, some version of which most Christians recite at Mass each week. His tomb is in St. Hillary's church in, of course, Poitiers. By God's Grace I have visited this Romanesque gem. I didn't know about the ancient hymn.
Such an amazing breadth of knowledge. So educational. Thanks so much
Another wonderful addition to our library of Orthodox memories!! Thank you my friend❤☦️☦️☦️❤️
Thanks so much, Roger!
I wanted to hear you sing the Carol!
Thank you patristix, as a fellow Aussie, I really appreciate your videos as someone who is interested in converting to orthodoxy, I have learnt so much.
So glad to hear! 🇦🇺
The joy I receive when a new Patristix video is uploaded! Glory to God! ☦
Same!
Thank you for watching!
Thank you for this wonderful presentation! 🎶 Merry Christmas! 🎄✨ Let’s celebrate the birth of our Savior with grateful hearts. ✝🙏❤
Merry ,Merry.⛪🙏
Keep Christ in Christmas! MERRY CHRISTMAS!!! CHRIST is KING!!!
and more importantly, be a virtuous Nazarene: keep Christ in Christians-feed the hungry, heal the sick, forgive old grudges, give alms to the poor, make peace, be kind, be gentle. 🐟👁️☀️❤️
Was für ein wunderbarer Satz und so notwendig. Danke. What a wonderful phrase and so necessary. Thanks
Amin!!!!!. 😌🤌💕.
Merry Christmas to you too! Chirst is King!
So well considered, so well-stated. Thank you.@@aasimar-cleric
Thank you, always learn something from this channel.
We used to sing this type of hymn in Lutheran churches in Germany until very recently (ca. 20 years ago) and I have always loved them, and still do, for their solemnity that fits the occasion and for their profound content. And also for their longstanding tradition. This has been discontinued, mostly in favor pseudo- meaningful texts in the manner of "let's look at the candles, they symbolise hope, so let us sing of hope and candles at christmastime." There are exceptions, of course, but the old (I mean older than 19th century) hymns are no longer sung...
So, on a more positive note, I am challenging myself to post one Christmas carol on each day of Advent this year. And it would be wonderful if other people did the same! I began with " Veni redemptor gentium" (Ambrose of Milan, translated by Martin Luther). Please delete this comment if it is inappropriate to mention that here!! Just thought it might be of interest.
- I came across your channel for the first time today and I'm glad I did!
❤
Happy Christmas to all! Thank you for your presentation. So nice to know about these hymns. Wish more had been preserved; we do need to preserve the ones we have for future generations.
Wonderful!!! Thank you so much. I don't celebrate until January 7. I have more time. Christ is born! Glorify Him!❤❤❤❤❤
✝ХРИСТОС ВОСКРЕС 🙏
Воистину воскресе!
Wrong time of year, its advent right now!
@@mickeymouOrthodox proclaim “Christ is Risen” until Nativity when we proclaim “Christ is born”.
Thanks for all the work it took to find this information.❤
The slavic carols are incomparable. It's hard to decide which is the most beautful. Smultaneously stark and tender in their melodies. There is a Ukrainian (catholic) site from Canada which provides very adequate transltions of some of them to English and they are perfectly singable.
Link?
Where would I be able to find them?
Link?
I didn't know that about Christmas kind of being lost. I attend an Orthodox church with my husband on 6th Jan. The singing is beautiful. They have local carols too, sometimes sing them with family.
The sect which banned Christmas under Cromwell's rule was so confounded by the Restoration (of the Monarchy, and of Christmas) they set sail from Plymouth, landed on Plymouth Rock, and invented Thanksgiving, with turkey, which became part of Christmas in the homeland.
Wonderful video and very informative!
Thank you for helping to save past things from obscurity.
BTW I believe "O Come O Come Emmanuel" has its origins going back
about 1200 years. Technically, an Advent carol... It remains my favorite.
The melody certainly sounds like sacred chant... Thank you for mentioning this! It is one of my own favorites, too.
Thank You. The Birth of Jesus Christ is a Tremendous Gift, bestowed upon us by God, for He so Loved us and the World. Love really is our true and Divine Nature. Thank You God, Thank You Jesus. ❤❤❤❤
We love your work. Thank you. ❤
The 17th Century Roundhead ban on Christmas never reached the English colony of Virginia, which was staunchly anti-Cromwell and Royalist. Consequently, Christmas traditions were NEVER stifled in America. Moreover, there were German settlers (not only in Virginia, but also in the middle Atlantic colonies) who brought their great love of Christmas with them. Their traditions caught on quickly, including the tannenbaum. Consequently, Americans had Christmas trees more than a century before Prince Albert popularised them in England. Dickens loathed America and Americans, but he saw (although never acknowledged) many English Christmas traditions when he visited America that had been absent from England since the Roundheads. In any event, we owe Dickens and German Prince Albert (and his more or less German bride) a great debt of thanks for restoring a proper Christmas to England -- although NOT, as the video states, to the "English speaking world".
The Puritans banned Christmas, but the ordinary people generally ignored this. In several places, there were riots and shopkeepers who had stayed open on Christmas Day, as the law demanded, were likely to have their shops trashed by the mobs.
It is a fallacy that people lost interest in Christmas. The 17th, 18th, and early 19th centuries maintained many traditions from previous centuries. What Dickens and Prince Albert did was to popularise certain elements of the celebrations. They did not reinvent Christmas.
Very, very nice! thanks! Merry Christmas!
I just discovered your channel!!
I love it. Just in time to lead up to christmas ❤️
How i wish we had a preserved version of the Angels Hymn...
Welcome to Patristix! Be sure to check out our little collection of Christmas episodes: ruclips.net/p/PL6k1J6n7Y5c393uYrBSRxZd81Iy_yogtQ
A very pleasant and centered video. Thank you for the share.
Thank you _ I love learning history!
I wish there were lyrics and music to the Saint's Hymn by Telesphorus of Rome...
❤❤❤❤❤ thank you
Love your videos! Thank you!!
Wonderfully informative. Thank you. God bless you. 🌟
In Dulci Jubilo (Good Christian Men Rejoice) and O Come Emmanuel are two of my favorites. I'd love to know more about their ages and how they worked within their times of writing theologically.
"O Come O Come Emmanuel" is based on the very ancient "O" antiphons which were sung (in Latin) before the Magnificat at Vespers during the week before Christmas. Each antiphon, sung on a different day, proclaims a title of Jesus as He comes into the world: O Root of Jesse; O Key of David; O Emmanuel (etc). The hymn lists these sacred titles verse by verse (but not in the original order). It's an extremely beautiful carol, and a favourite for almost everyone.
"In Dulce Jubilo" is a mediaeval carol, originally in German, with the original tune set to harmony by the 17th century German composer Praetorius. Like many mediaeval English carols, Latin phrases alternate with vernacular ones. Our English translation of this carol (which I think is Victorian) alternates Latin and English in the traditional way.
Both lovely carols!
May God bless you this wonderful season.☦️
And they say Orthodox don’t evangelize… thanks for your great work 🙏🏾
Enjoy the tea my friend! It was great to have you 🍵
You gave us a solid few episodes worth of tea! Miss you guys
What about “O Come Emmanuel”? That’s older than the ones you listed
This is so amazing xx thank you and blessings 🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻🌟🙏🏻❤️🙏🏻
I am so glad to have found you!
i have wondered what the oldest was for a couple years now, thank you!
I have been wanting to hear that carol for years because I love Christmas songs and I am sad that in modern times that we can't hear this Christmas song.
There are RUclips videos of cantors singing Byzantine chants for the Nativity: the words and music are profound and beautiful, but I suspect that some listeners used to Western Christmas carols might find the chanting strange and off-putting.
I have never heard the hymn mentioned in this gentleman's video, but in every Orthodox church at this time you can hear the Nativity Kontakion of St Romanos the Melodist, from the 6th century (usually but not always in a modern setting):
Today the Virgin gives birth to the Transcendent One, and the earth offers a cave to the Unapproachable One.
Angels and shepherds glorify him; the Wise Men journey with the star,
Since for our sake the eternal God was born as a little Child.
I was just wondering this the other day! Amazing!
Thank you so much
Thank you. This was a lovely and informative video.
Nice video-and I love your background set !
Thank you! We've made over a hundred episodes on this set and we still like it
Your channel came up as suggested and I watched the one about the Heliand. I was delighted to see icons and an Orthodox cross on the wall behind you and thrilled to find you are Orthodox as am I. I love history as well so I have subscribed. Thank you for helping to save the history.
I hope you enjoy our channel! We've got over a hundred videos on history, art, culture and our Orthodox faith! God bless!
Lovely
Thank you!!!❤
Christmas stands for love and forgiveness the world unites, joy enters the hearts peace enters. Christianity in its fullness is the greatest euphoric experience you will ever have. Christianity if practiced as written will make us a loving caring being a selfless one. No wars just love no one should go hungry nor die alone.
Well done presentation...
Thank you! I really appreciated hearing about such an ancient carol. What a shame the music was not preserved in some way.
Lovely. Did not know although I did study Theology. Thank you so much.
Thank you!
Prot checking in. Great vid
Merry Christmas!
I have just found your channel, Very interesting 🤔 👍
No serenade today, Mr Paristix? Im sure you have a lovely singing voice. 😁 Thank you for your videos. I learn so many new and interesting things about our beloved Church. God Bless!
One of my favorites and also one of the oldest is " Of the Father's Love Begotten", written in the 4th century by Aurelius Clemens Prudentius (348-413).
Absolutely exquisite. I love singing it as I am a Catholic Cantor.
wonderful Christmas teas, i love all the warm sweet spices, but not the peppermint
i found this really fascinating and i thought away in a manger was really old
Good video ive Always Loved Christmas Music & curious of it's origins.
i am Agnostic But believe me i HUGE On Christmas have my whole Apt Decked out this year with Big Tapestries of the Manjor / Nativity
and Christmas Angel Garden Flags.
Thank you. Appreciated.
Jesus Is The Reason For The Season! All Praise Honor And Glory To Yah Abba Father God Almighty In Yeshua Jesus Christ's Precious Saviour's Name Shalom And Amen!✝️✝️🛐🛐😇🌟🤗🙏🙏🙏🇨🇦🇬🇧🇮🇱♾️🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🗽🦅❤️❤️❤️‼️
Where can I get that eggnog tea???
Merci beaucoup ! En France le nom commun "noël" designe un chant ancien composé pour cette fête (=carol in english). Outre certaines compositions liturgiques( abbaye St- Martial de Limoges, 12 ème s ), c'est surtout à partir des 15-16 ème qu'on trouve des noëls populaires du Poitou ou de Provence... Ainsi " Noël nouvelet" ou " Au saint Nau" remontant à la fin du Moyen - Âge...
My favorite is Coventry Carol. I sing it in Church every year. I am going to look up St. Hilary’s Carol.
The Coventry Carol is exquisitely beautiful, one of my favorites, too!
@ ❤️ It’s so hauntingly beautiful. Happy New Year! God’s blessings.🙂
thank you for this, i was taught that the Coventry carol was the oldest English carol dating from about the 13th -14th century
Greetings and blessings 🎊✨♥️🌺
What a nice carol!❤
The Troparion and Kontakion of the Nativity, liturgical hymns of the Orthodox Church, were composed by St. Romanos the Melodist in the 4th or 5th centuries. The present Byzantine tones are probably close to the music used by St. Romanos, but each Orthodox Church has developed its own settings based on its unique chant Tradition.
Christ is King!
I just found your channel, subscribed !
beautiful
Wonderful presentation of preservation of poetry/prose, but without the music, I can’t really call them Carols anymore.
It is unlikely that you would ever find a Christmas song earlier than the late fourth century, because the Feast of the Nativity did not become a distinct feast until then. Prior to this, it was part of the combined Feast of Epiphany (25 December) in the West, called Theophany in the East (6 January). In the fourth centuries, there was an exchange of feasts, in which Nativity was established on 25 December, while the remnants of Epiphany/Theophany were assigned to 6 January.
I thought you'd say O Come O Come Emmanuel. This was very interesting.
In the dark night (темную пічку) is probably my favourite Ukrainian orthodox carol
I was sorry you didn't mention the contribution of the American, Washington Irving. His "Old Christmas" was, IMO, a big influence on Dickens' Christmas stories.
Would you do a video about Saint Simon of Cyreene sometime? He’s my patron saint, God bless ☦️
Don’t forget the beautiful Irish Christmas carol from the Middle Ages “The Wexford Carol” - there are 12 carols for the 12 days of Christmas ☘️🇮🇪
Thank you 🥇🙏
Very interesting. Thank you. Out of curiosity: what would be the oldest commonly used carol or hymn in general? At The Lamb’s High Feast must be up there.
You mentioned "... the Victoria Era ..." Hark the Herald Angels sing ..." was written over Christmas 1738 at St mary's Islington by Charles Wesley, George Whitfield, and a Martyn Maddan - the latter being a very young lad at the time. Good Hymn Books will acknowledge this - Hymns of faith being one of them.
Thank you for sharing this! Your profile says "Australia", but I think that's a South African accent I hear, am I correct? Merry Christmas from a Byzantine rite Catholic in Florida!
No, it's an accent made of a mix of countries lived! Never been to South Africa, but I do get that one a lot.
Merry Christmas!
The oldest carols I know are Gaudete and Of the Father's Love Begotten. The former is still in Latin and the latter is probably translated from Latin.
Is the St Hilary you mention the 4th century French Bishop? [feast day January 13].
Yeah I thought "Of the Father's Love Begotten" originally "Corde natus" was the earliest. Neat to learn otherwise, but I was a bit unclear what the name of Hilary's hymn was. Did I miss it? (Could it be Gloria in excelsis Deo as that looks to have been translated by Hilary of Poitiers. Also I do find very few common carols from before 1700.)
"Oh Come Emmanuel" and "Good King Wenceslas" are probably the oldest *common* carols (at least parts of), but they were not originally for Xmas.
Good. Thanks.
Thanks for this, I'm new to this channel. Have you done anything on Robert Young? I read YLT almost exclusively and would love to know more about him.
What about “Let All Mortal Flesh Keep Silent” as an ancient Christmas carol?
The Puritans, a sect of English Radical Protestants, banned Christmas (after murdering the Archbishop of Canterbury, William Laud). Referring to Puritans simply as ‘Protestants’ as if there were no difference between them and Anglicans or Lutherans is about like failing to distinguish between the miaphysite and duophysite communions in the East.
A very apt comment indeed. Pity we can’t ask Adrian Fortescue about this.
I was actually about to leave a similar comment, but you already did. Thank you. It's like how the Amish call all non-Amish people "The English" even if they are Japanese or Irish.
Did you mean MONOPHYSITE? I know THAT word …
@@AlasPoorEngland Although miaphysitism and monophysitism have been prejudicioisly conflated by some historically (like the Puritans, ironically, who used the label ‘Eutychian’ to refer not only to miaphysite and monophysite Christologies but also to Lutheranism’s duophysite Christology), but most contemporary histories of theology rightly distinguish between miaphysitism and monophysitism. Both hold that Jesus as the incarnate Logos has only one nature (physis)-‘mia’ and ‘mono’ both come from forms of the Greek word for ‘one.’ To keep this comment relatively short, I must crudely summarize the difference between them like this: miaphysitism denotes theories that hold the incarnate Logos has one nature which is a perfect fusion of divine and human nature into one ‘new’ nature where the two natures are still virtually distinguishable, whereas monophysitism typically denotes theories where the two natures are fused such that the human nature has been “swallowed up” by the divine nature in their fusion. Miaphysitism is the doctrine of Christ held by the Coptic Orthodox and a handful of others (like the Armenians and Ethiopians), whereas monophysitism is, to my knowledge, rejected by all ecclesial bodies. Detailed discussions of each and their distinction can be found in Roman Catholic scholar Leo Donald Davis’ book _The First Seven Ecumenical Councils_ and Eastern Orthodox scholar John McGuckin’s _Saint Cyril of Alexandria and the Christological Controversy_ . If the Lutheran view is of any interest, Lutheran scholar David Scaer’s book _Christology_ contains a brief overview, and the Roman Catholic scholar Franz Posset’s book _Luther’s Catholic Christology_ gives a more detailed historical analysis.
@ Augustinian Sir, I must congratulate you on, and thank you for, the kind donation of your theological and historical learning and insight. The interaction of the divine and the human is beginning to be a topic of great interest and importance to me, so I must contemplate the mode of Our Lord’s miraculous incarnation, and the scholarly works you kindly cite will, I hope, enlighten me further. As we now embark on the season of Advent, culminating in the glorious birth, may I wish you every blessing for this time, and best wishes for a merry and blessed Christmas! (I suppose from your pen name you are a Western Christian, and will be celebrating on Dec. 25: so will I, although I have a hankering after the January 6 festival, and would like either to assist at an Orthodox service, or to visit Glastonbury to see how exactly the Holy Thorns there will display themselves!
Does anyone know the years "Holly and the Ivy" and "Angels on High" was composed? Thank you and Merry Christmas.
Here is my paraphrase of the opening lines of St. Romanos Melodos' Christmas canticle ("I Parthenos Simeron"), to be sung as a verse added to "Child in a Manger":
God above Heaven
Born of a virgin;
God beyond space
Now sheltered on earth.
This day is holy!
Sing to the Saviour,
Shepherds and angels
Herald His birth.
Anyone is welcome to sing this and distribute it.
Are you talking about the text or the music? "Carol" is a musical form.