History of the Magi
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- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- What happened to the famous three kings after the events of the Bible? We take a look at some of the traditional stories that are preserved in the Church
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A short scifi film about the Magi (from the creators of Patristix): • Magi (Christmas Sci-Fi...
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The opening track is "We Three Kings - Epic Version" by @LOrchestraCinematique and is used with permission: • We Three Kings - Epic ...
The Nativity Troparion:
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An article about the gifts on Mount Athos: www.johnsanido...
Another article: orthochristian...
An article about the gifts of the wise men arriving in Romania in 2023: basilica.ro/en...
An article about the wise men (including other recorded names for the three): www.pravmir.co...
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Incredible!! I just started going to an Orthodox church in my city. I haven't been back to my Protestant church since my very first Divine Liturgy a month ago.
This video along with all the others on your channel continue to blow my mind and help me grow and learn/relearn all the things I thought I knew.
God bless, and please pray for me friends!
WHAT WONDERFUL NEWS! GLORY TO GOD!
Very many of us understand what you just said. We understand..☦📿💝📿☦
Just like St. Gregory the Great said;-)
Pray for Gracie, holy St. Gregory!
That’s so interesting God bless you
Short history of Christianity: ruclips.net/video/uzuYZi749CM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/zT-v3RT8678/видео.htmlsi=yyA9MqlAaTjg0eIo
Finding and learning about the Christian Orthodox Church: ruclips.net/video/PE9TDX_dqOo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/gPPPAqBySHo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/FneNd9UvC_g/видео.html
The Holy Fire:
ruclips.net/video/4kZu87tyqJ4/видео.html
ruclips.net/user/shortsf7pPHngZ5Gc?feature=share
See "Religion of the Apostles" by Father Dr. Stephen De Young, the books of Michael Whelton, Father Seraphim Rose, and those of Jaroslav Jan Pelikan Jr., a former American Lutheran pastor who converted to Orthodoxy and the testimony of prof. Hugo Tristram Engelhardt, Jr., former Roman Catholic: journeytoorthodoxy.com/2011/03/herman-tristram-engelhardt-how-i-became-orthodox/ And the History of Christianity!
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This video is on another level!
Thank you! It was absolutely a thrill to make it (hence it being longer than most episodes!) and we still didn't fit everything in. Always loved the wise men but now we love them more
Dear Brothers in Christ, Andrew & Stefan, if you can't fit all the info into your video, maybe you should consider producing it as an illustrated children's book. God bless 🙏
"Do you want to know what happened, to that little boy that you met?" 💕😊
St. Thomas is so awesome.
The more I find out about Orthodoxy, the more my faith is strengthened. I never knew we had relics of both the bodies of the Magi, but also their gifts. Glory Be to God!
Cool. Yep, one of my faves so far too! Also, it explains why Kaspar (& to a lesser extent Baltasar & Melkior) are still today names more commonly found in Germany
Very cool. Happy Christmas from Croatia to Germany!
The ones who worshiped stars eventually worshiped the creator of the stars!
Thank you so much, we are so blessed to have the full history of Christ in our Orthodox faith!
I believe that the Magi are descendants of Chaldeans whom served under Daniel the prophet. That's how they knew where and when the Messiah was prophesied to be born even though they were Gentiles.
That would explain how they have the same hats the three youths have in icons.
Come to Adelaide and have tea with me sir. Let me repay the glorious hospitality you have shown me with these videos. Truly remarkable
Will remember this offer should we get to Adelaide! Thank you for it.
I am traveling west to celebrate at my parents and I am bringing frankincense with me as a burnt offering for our Lord Jesus Christ's birth! Joyeux Noël à tous!
Watching from Nairobi, Kenya. This is the best video messages i have heard in my entire life.
God bless you I hope you will reach more about the orthodoxy
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Good episode! One thing I didn't hear you mention is the possible/probable connection between the Magi and the Prophet Daniel. As I recall (and I must admit that I don't remember where I heard or read this), when the Prophet Daniel was appointed by King Nebuchadnezzar as his chief sage, he passed a lot of knowledge about the things he had prophesized to the Babylonian wise men and it remained in their tradition. Fast forward to the time of the Persian rule over Babylon (which you did mention) and it seems that the Magi were expecting this sign of the birth of the Messiah, at least in part because of the knowledge that had been handed down to them from the time of Daniel. Is this something you have encountered in your research?
I was wondering this as well.
What a blessing! This story really brought a tear to my eyes and reminded me of just how rich and beautiful the Holy Tradition is. Thank you, you have a new sub!
At this level of production, I'm going to have to start making popcorn for future videos
We highly approve of Patristix popcorn
That was surely one of my favorite episodes, too! Indeed, you always surprise us, guys! It's amazing how much information you comprehend in a few minutes!
Thank you, Dana! Craciun ferecit!
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Romania, The real Hobbits's Shire!
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Thank you again, I thought that there was not much that I could learn, but you have proved me wrong again. Love the decorations 🎉
firstly like and then watch the video. the best orthodox page. marry Christmas guys, you are the best team. The god bless you for that work
This was absolutely lovely. Beyond anything i would have anticipated. I love so very often that the Church knows what happened in these stories and It enriches our faith and awe and love. Too many points to mention:The Theotokos, St. Thomas, Milan, Cologne.. (now i know why their relics are said to be there..)
This is not just an excellent episode.. this is a blessing.
A blessing...☦📿🎶📿☦
Do you give any credence to the notion that the Holy Prophet Daniel, who served as chief of the Magi at one point, trained the Persian astrologers to look for the Christ?
It's one of my favorite episodes so far, too!
Love this. Pardon me if I plagiarize you!
Where could I read about interesting Orthodox stories like this one? You guys never fail to surprise me!
The descriptions of our videos are full of links that will take you to websites with more stories. The best thing is honestly to attend an Orthodox Church regularly and pay attention to the hymns and homilies. They are FULL of amazing theology and stories. Your priest will also know of some good books to read.
The @BibleIllustrated channel is also crammed with amazing stories from across the Orthodox world and they're told well
The Prologue of Ohrid
They were not magicians.
Magi was a direct equivalent of priests.
They were priests in the Persian Empire, that is were Mitra that priests put on there head comes from.
I had already sent this out to several before i began to watch... and then i heard the instrumental melody of "We Three Kings..." as it began.. THAT is a lovely way to begin...
(MORE later from me, i expect, when i get to the end.!💝)
That opening track was one of our favourites to use so far!
@@Patristixlink please
“a moment with the beloved and a river changes its course”
Interesting as always thank you. Never knew the 3 wise men were in Cologne now!
This was AMAZING!!! I think one of my favorite videos of yours yet. Blew my mind...full of really excellent information. God's Providence that you came out with this when you did as I was REALLY wanting to understand the Magi better this year. It's been on my heart specifically because of the myrrh. The myrrh-streaming Iveron Icon is coming to my church soon & naturally, having questions about the myrrh, it's the Nativity season, I really started to wonder about the Magi. My questions about myrrh aren't quite answered yet, but I absolutely loved this. Thank you so much for all your hard work in presenting this ❤.
The Three Magi are all Saints by the way
Evlogitos ho Theos imoun! Mahalo from Hawai'i for this wonderful video hagiagrophy...
Great episode and great editing! Please do more longer episodes like this one!
I'm just beginning to appreciate in a more profund way what the birth of Christ means for all of us. Merry Christmas, dear brothers!
Crăciun fericit!
I’m always so excited when a new Patristix video shows up in my notifications
Thank you for watching them!
"Real frankincense, real myrrh and real, chocolate, gold coins." ☺️ Thanks I needed that.
At the stable? But they weren't there until Christ was 40 days to a year later where they?
Yes, a slight error on our part there. It is generally believed that they came later. In any case, they didn't come to a palace but a country town.
Melkior, inspiration for Tolkien? Hmmmmm, I smell a research project
It’s almost a New Testament version of the three angels in Abraham’s hospitality in the Old Testament, but here the three magi bow down to the Babe, rather than the man bowing/welcoming the angels. Interesting stuff I just thought about idk if any Church Fathers say anything about this
That’s very interesting. I was also wondering whether the 3 wise men are in some way a reflection or a homage to the Trinity.
Wow that was really GREAT THANK YOU 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 In the Bible it is stated severally that God is written on the conscious of humans so that no one can say that they don't know. Therefore those that do not call Jesus CHRIST are still known to Him as a "law in and of themselves" St Paul
Thank you for sharing 💕💕💕 I never knew this much about the wise men ☦️ May God grant you many years ❤
I read somewhere that the 3 magi didn't just come in 3, but also brought an entourage because it wouldn't make sense if 3 important people from a far away land bringing an expensive gift such as gold just came by themselves without security measures.
You know. You never hear about Frank. He is the fourth Maji, he is the one who brought a fruitcake.
Haha good one😂
What a presentation, Thank you for this Valuable Knowledge, God Bless You!!!
I am not orthodox, but Episcopalian. I love your channel. Thank you ❤
This episode is epic! I had no idea that there was so much more to the story of the Magi! 🤯 Thank you ever so much, Brothers Robinson, for these beautifully crafted videos and historical stories. This episode brought tears to my eyes as a Protestant who didn't know she was missing out on so much. Thank you, and may God grant you many years!
Short history of Christianity: ruclips.net/video/uzuYZi749CM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/zT-v3RT8678/видео.htmlsi=yyA9MqlAaTjg0eIo
Finding and learning about the Christian Orthodox Church: ruclips.net/video/PE9TDX_dqOo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/gPPPAqBySHo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/FneNd9UvC_g/видео.html
The Holy Fire:
ruclips.net/video/4kZu87tyqJ4/видео.html
ruclips.net/user/shortsf7pPHngZ5Gc?feature=share
See "Religion of the Apostles" by Father Dr. Stephen De Young, the books of Michael Whelton, Father Seraphim Rose, and those of Jaroslav Jan Pelikan Jr., a former American Lutheran pastor who converted to Orthodoxy and the testimony of prof. Hugo Tristram Engelhardt, Jr., former Roman Catholic: journeytoorthodoxy.com/2011/03/herman-tristram-engelhardt-how-i-became-orthodox/ And the History of Christianity!
One of the king came from east Africa that’s tradition
One of my favorite episodes yet. 💙☦️
My favorite Christmas song has always been "We Theee Kings" . Ive just always loved their part of our Christmas story. ☦️
Thank you so very much! I really loved this episode. Glory to God, and may He keep blessing me through you! Christ is born!
Could you do a video sometime on St. Kassiani? She’s my patron (and a super cool lady) but there’s not a lot of content about her!
Yes! She's actually been one of our planned saints for quite a while and an episode will come out during Lent. She's one of our favourite saints too
My Dutch father is a Balthazar Christiaan. Never ever heard that name before apart from the Magi.
I think you should turn this into a book with photos and illustrations! Families could read it every January 6th!
Wonderful! I too really enjoyed that episode! God bless you for a happy and holy Christmas. Love to all your family.
Merry Christmas, Father Philip!
Real chocolate gold coins 😆
来自中国的基督徒兄弟，祝你的节目越来越好，平安✝️💟
This was really incredible. Undoubtedly one of my favourite videos on your channel so far. Merry Christmas!
One of our favourites so far as well! Merry Christmas!
This is also one of my favorite episodes! WOW.....
Thank you for always expanding my knowledge.
The underlying Aramaic word for the LXX reading of ⲙⲁⲅⲟⲓ "Magi" is אשפיא 'Ashephaia' meaning "astrologers." Thus Daniel was appointed chief of the Magi.
Awesome video! Thank you!
Thank you for these well informed and beautifully presented videos. Am learning so much from them. 💕💕🙏🙏
That was awesome! Thank you for your channel!
God bless you! ❤️
Excellent episode, so many new details about these heroes of the faith! Merry Christmas! ☦️🎄❤️
We were really excited making this one. We started out with some great facts and found a bunch more as we prepared for it. We love the wise men!
Another great video! So many things I never heard growing up protestant. Thank you so much for these videos.
It’s really interesting story ❤ Thank you 🙏
Beautiful video. The narrative of course, but the atmosphere too. Never saw you before but I'm so subscribing right now! Thanks again!
From Kodiak and Sitka Alaska. America's Holy Land.
Merry Christmas! Glad you found us.
Would love to visit Alaska one day, a 'Holy Land' is a nice name for it.
@@PatristixSt Juvenali and his Companion, St Peter the Aleut who sleeps in California, St Herman, St Yakov Netsvetov, and very soon Blessed Matushka Olga. The America's Holy Land indeed.
Thank you again for this beautiful video. Many channels on RUclips have fine content but you have backed it with a calm and lovely set with subdued and purposeful lighting. I realize you might not have applied your artist's eye to the set, but certainly SOMEONE arranged it... even if unknown to you. Beauty will, after all, save the world!
Thank you! We spent quite some time designing the set, lighting, and general feel of it. Very glad you're enjoying it! We very much agree about beauty. It will save the world and belongs in everything! Especially when we get to talk of the treasures of the Church
The Magi came from the east, saw a star in the east, and travelled .... west. Why?
The Three Gifts also represent the Triple Regiment of Christ:
1) Gold=King
2)Frankincense=Priest
3)Myrh=Teacher
Beautiful 🙏🏻🕊️
EXCELLENT if NOT OUTSTANDING !!!! 6th of JANUARY . HMMMM ! I CERTAINLY SHARE THE DATE & MONTH . A SUPER GREAT HONOUR !! MANY THANKS ! FROM, U.K. (2024).
Here's what I remember from my studies before I watch, the names of the kings/magi/wisemen were Melchoir, Gaspar (Casper) & Balthazar, but they were likely leading an entire caravan of many priestly (possibly thousands) and brought three very specific & symbolically important gifts. I've also heard it said the gifts were symbols of their respective homelands. St. Bede claimed these homelands to be Arabia, Sheba (Ethiopia) & Egypt, however that wouldn't make them Wisemen of the East for someone born in Bethlehem, more like Men of the South. The magi designation insinuates that they hail from different realms of the Persian Empire. The most compelling explanation of this I ever heard was they were the priestly class of the Persian Jewish Diaspora, still in exile in the Orient, making a pilgrimage to recognize the true & rightful King of the Jews foretold in Scripture, the Moshiach, the Christ child, similar to Samuel the Prophet chrismating young David, perhaps even a OT/NT typology...and I think that's what I remember, let's see what I learn.
So very interesting indeed, though if I may add a small observation. The single biblical account in Matthew 2 simply presents an event at an unspecified point after Christ's birth in which an unnumbered party of unnamed "wise men" (μάγοι, mágoi) visits him in a house (οἰκίαν, oikian), not a stable. Just for additional information for anyone that is wanting to know more.
Yes lovely presentation…so……The 13 Holy Helpers?
Like pluto no longer a planet…the 13 were dropped from existence …but you may know better xxx
Also, the symbol of modern Islam was taken by Turks from crusader ships. It was a wholly Christian symbol before the crusades, and is still the symbol of a few towns in Europe.
It’s believed the star inside the moon was the star the wise men were looking for. Its placement inside of the crescent symbolizing an astronomical impossibility, a star inside(in front) of the moon.
Glory to God. Loved this episode!
Very good episode and high quality! Thank! But don't we infer from the religion that Christianity could have taken the prophecy of a Messiah and used it for its own religious purposes?
Cyrus is one of the messiahs in the torah. Zoroastrianism is the first monotheistic religions. The word magic/magi come from Persian. The messiah of the world (because there is more than one) was prophesied in Zoroastrianism hints why they went to visit Jesus. In Jerusalem there were Parthians, and Medes (Iranians) celebrating Jesus.
Where is a book that documents this?
I heard a church father interviewed a Magi- where is a written record?!
1st. I know this is gonna be an amazing episode, been waiting for it.
God bless you.
I was not disappointed. I loved every second.
Joyeux noel!
I can see no reason why these beautiful stories should not be true
Thanks for adding actual captions for the Deaf ❤
I have a question, are these 3 kings/magi/wise men canonized as Saints in the Orthodox Church? Thanks for this really amazing video.
Well, that was cool. You taught me what smelled the two times I’ve been to an Orthodox Church in my original home town, and now I know that the wise men were a symbol of repentance. Wow.
Thank you and God bless you!
Thank you! We have another episode a bit more about that smell of incense you might like: ruclips.net/video/wz5uKwlIeCY/видео.html
Thank you brother. And yet u come with another amazing content. I heard from a budist monks that they knew a very special baby coming and they were inquiring to take the baby to formaly educate him in the budist monestary. Its amazing
Wow. Exceptional, informative and amazing. Thank you!
Thanks! One of our favourites episodes to make
Hey Thanks for the videos learned a lot. I have one question tho did the Magi and herod thought jesus was earthly king when they came to the palace?
Thank you ❤
I was just wandering if fasting is only a food thing, like should I fast with other things(I’m asking this question here because I don’t think I’m going to get an answer on a video posted 10 months ago).
Fasting is definitely not only a food thing. But for more on how to do it, and what to work on, please talk with an Orthodox priest about where you're at etc. All of these kinds of things are part of a bigger life in the Church! God bless!
So they were not kings ?
3 wise men 3 maries
The "We Three Kings" music in your intro gives me goosebumps
So glad to hear that! It was really exciting being able to use it for the opener. Epic carol, epic rendition.
I love our Churrch for preserving these wonderful truths about the origins of our faith. Thank you so much for sharing this ❤️
Where did you get 3 persons,
Yes id like to know that to.
Greetings from Melbourne! Just discovered your channel and loving the content. Also, had no idea you guys are based in Australia! Very cool!
The story of the 3 wise men has always resonated with me. I’m a convert to Orthodoxy from Hinduism. Although Hinduism is different from Zoroastrianism, there are ancient links between the two religions and cultures (astrology is big in Hinduism too, till this day). In discovering the truth of Christianity and Orthodoxy, the 3 wise men were inspiring figures for me. As men from “the East” I see them as representatives of not just the Chaldeans or the Persians, but the entire Far East, who followed the star of faith which led them to the manger. To a large extent this reflects my own journey, spiritually speaking, from the East (my native religion) to Christ, by following the star of faith (genuine seeking for the truth).
It was also very interesting to know that St Thomas met the 3 wise men on his way to India. The fact that Christ was visited by men from the East at his birth, and the fact that he sent the apostle Thomas to India, makes me think that spreading the gospel to the Far East was an important part of Christ’s mission. I always thought of Christianity as a religion of the West. But in discovering the Orthodox Church I found that this was not so, far from it in fact.
By the way, part of me wonders whether the 3 wise men, simply by virtue of the fact that there are 3 of them, has some connection to the Trinity? Would love to hear any insight on this!
Christianity is very much connected to the East indeed! And you walk in the footsteps of the magi, and the star still leads to Christ! There is actually a very old traditional story that one of the wise men was Punjabi or Indian. A 14th century collection of traditions written in Germany by John of Hildeheim says he passed through a famous silk route city in Punjab on his way to Bethlehem. This matches with an old Armenian tradition that says Caspar was Indian.
@@PatristixThanks. Yes I have heard this before too. It might be worth pointing out that the region known then as the Punjab was much larger than the current Indian state of Punjab. It historically included large parts of what is now Pakistan and possibly Afghanistan. So it’s not too much of a stretch to think that one of the 3 wise men may have been from that region. In any case, great video!
@@PatristixI have done some further research on Zoroastrianism, which I knew very little about. For those unaware, there is still a community of Zoroastrians living in India (“Parsis”). I actually have a good friend who belongs to this community. The prophet Zoroaster had a vision of a being known as the “mind of God”, who taught him about Ahura Mazda, the supreme and one God. Surely, these are references to the Son of God (the divine Logos) and God the Father. Further, he is told of the birth of a future messiah who will be born of a virgin. There are many other details and almost all of them agree with the Orthodox Christian understanding. It therefore ties up very nicely with the story of the Magi, the fact that they were Zoroastrians and were aware of the birth of a future Messiah, that they found this to be Jesus, all of this makes sense.
I'm fascinated by this story, and at the same time can't help but feeling skeptical. Where can we find the earliest/closest writings about the identities of the wisemen? Also, how are we sure that the gifts on Mount Athos are the original ones given by them? And where can we find a reliable account of Thomas' journey and his conversation with the same wisemen? I'm being sincere here. If anyon could point me in the right direction, I'd highly appreciate it.
The Church maintains this tradition. It doesn’t get any more reliable than that.
I think the 3 wise men where african , frankensense and meyhr can only b found in ethiopia and somalia
Wrong. They were likely Aryans
I made large square pillar candles about ten years ago and colored them gold and added some very very very fine glitter. I added Frankincense and Myrrh as the scent and gave them to someone as a gift. They were like "ooh, candles". And the gold/frankincense/myrrh connection *never clicked with them* (and they were raised Catholic *facedesk*)