The more I find out about Orthodoxy, the more my faith is strengthened. I never knew we had relics of both the bodies of the Magi, but also their gifts. Glory Be to God!
Incredible!! I just started going to an Orthodox church in my city. I haven't been back to my Protestant church since my very first Divine Liturgy a month ago. This video along with all the others on your channel continue to blow my mind and help me grow and learn/relearn all the things I thought I knew. God bless, and please pray for me friends!
Short history of Christianity: ruclips.net/video/uzuYZi749CM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/zT-v3RT8678/видео.htmlsi=yyA9MqlAaTjg0eIo Finding and learning about the Christian Orthodox Church: ruclips.net/video/PE9TDX_dqOo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/gPPPAqBySHo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/FneNd9UvC_g/видео.html The Holy Fire: ruclips.net/video/4kZu87tyqJ4/видео.html ruclips.net/user/shortsf7pPHngZ5Gc?feature=share See "Religion of the Apostles" by Father Dr. Stephen De Young, the books of Michael Whelton, Father Seraphim Rose, and those of Jaroslav Jan Pelikan Jr., a former American Lutheran pastor who converted to Orthodoxy and the testimony of prof. Hugo Tristram Engelhardt, Jr., former Roman Catholic: journeytoorthodoxy.com/2011/03/herman-tristram-engelhardt-how-i-became-orthodox/ And the History of Christianity!
You are touching on something truly profound. Before the Islamic invasion of Persia, many Persian kings began to recognize and respect the Christian community. Today, in modern Persia(iran), we see a growing number of people leaving Islam in search of something deeper. It’s important to note that Zoroastrianism is not pagan-it is a monotheistic faith that shares many similarities with Christianity. Zoroastrianism predicts the coming of a savior, the Saoshyant, which makes the connection between the three Magi-Zoroastrian priests-searching for the Saoshyant and finding Him in Christ even more significant. As an Iranian, I never made this connection before, but I now see how Christianity may be the true fulfillment and extension of Zoroastrianism. I believe this story is incredibly important for Iranians to know and understand.
So the Iranians have been their manipulating the psyche of the world from the time of Mithraism and its spread throughout the Roman Empire prior to Christianity and with the story of the Magi yet again they brought about change in Judaic tradition. While all these events shook the belief and politics of the Roman Empire later the Iranians once again manipulated the Arabian pagan tradition and changed the course of history through the teaching of Salman the Persian as a mentor and spiritual supervisor to Mohammad in Arabia. It was through his knowledge ,wisdom and political advises that Mohammad could change the Arabian tradition and ways of life and Islam later becomes a universal religion.
Cool. Yep, one of my faves so far too! Also, it explains why Kaspar (& to a lesser extent Baltasar & Melkior) are still today names more commonly found in Germany
Nun, diese Namen sind eher selten in Deutschland, wenn auch bekannt. Ich kenne niemanden, der einen dieser Namen trägt, auch über mehrere Generationen hin. Frohe Weihnachten aus Deutschland!
What a truly amazing story! I love that it was the doubting Thomas who shared with them the gospel. And your point from St. Gregory that once we've encountered Jesus Christ we're never to go back to the way we've come from. What a truly enlightening understanding of that passage. Thank you for this message!
What a blessing! This story really brought a tear to my eyes and reminded me of just how rich and beautiful the Holy Tradition is. Thank you, you have a new sub!
That was surely one of my favorite episodes, too! Indeed, you always surprise us, guys! It's amazing how much information you comprehend in a few minutes!
I believe that the Magi are descendants of Chaldeans whom served under Daniel the prophet. That's how they knew where and when the Messiah was prophesied to be born even though they were Gentiles.
This was absolutely lovely. Beyond anything i would have anticipated. I love so very often that the Church knows what happened in these stories and It enriches our faith and awe and love. Too many points to mention:The Theotokos, St. Thomas, Milan, Cologne.. (now i know why their relics are said to be there..) This is not just an excellent episode.. this is a blessing. A blessing...☦📿🎶📿☦
This episode is epic! I had no idea that there was so much more to the story of the Magi! 🤯 Thank you ever so much, Brothers Robinson, for these beautifully crafted videos and historical stories. This episode brought tears to my eyes as a Protestant who didn't know she was missing out on so much. Thank you, and may God grant you many years!
Short history of Christianity: ruclips.net/video/uzuYZi749CM/видео.html ruclips.net/video/zT-v3RT8678/видео.htmlsi=yyA9MqlAaTjg0eIo Finding and learning about the Christian Orthodox Church: ruclips.net/video/PE9TDX_dqOo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/gPPPAqBySHo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/FneNd9UvC_g/видео.html The Holy Fire: ruclips.net/video/4kZu87tyqJ4/видео.html ruclips.net/user/shortsf7pPHngZ5Gc?feature=share See "Religion of the Apostles" by Father Dr. Stephen De Young, the books of Michael Whelton, Father Seraphim Rose, and those of Jaroslav Jan Pelikan Jr., a former American Lutheran pastor who converted to Orthodoxy and the testimony of prof. Hugo Tristram Engelhardt, Jr., former Roman Catholic: journeytoorthodoxy.com/2011/03/herman-tristram-engelhardt-how-i-became-orthodox/ And the History of Christianity!
This was AMAZING!!! I think one of my favorite videos of yours yet. Blew my mind...full of really excellent information. God's Providence that you came out with this when you did as I was REALLY wanting to understand the Magi better this year. It's been on my heart specifically because of the myrrh. The myrrh-streaming Iveron Icon is coming to my church soon & naturally, having questions about the myrrh, it's the Nativity season, I really started to wonder about the Magi. My questions about myrrh aren't quite answered yet, but I absolutely loved this. Thank you so much for all your hard work in presenting this ❤.
The descriptions of our videos are full of links that will take you to websites with more stories. The best thing is honestly to attend an Orthodox Church regularly and pay attention to the hymns and homilies. They are FULL of amazing theology and stories. Your priest will also know of some good books to read. The @BibleIllustrated channel is also crammed with amazing stories from across the Orthodox world and they're told well
I had already sent this out to several before i began to watch... and then i heard the instrumental melody of "We Three Kings..." as it began.. THAT is a lovely way to begin... (MORE later from me, i expect, when i get to the end.!💝)
Good episode! One thing I didn't hear you mention is the possible/probable connection between the Magi and the Prophet Daniel. As I recall (and I must admit that I don't remember where I heard or read this), when the Prophet Daniel was appointed by King Nebuchadnezzar as his chief sage, he passed a lot of knowledge about the things he had prophesized to the Babylonian wise men and it remained in their tradition. Fast forward to the time of the Persian rule over Babylon (which you did mention) and it seems that the Magi were expecting this sign of the birth of the Messiah, at least in part because of the knowledge that had been handed down to them from the time of Daniel. Is this something you have encountered in your research?
Great episode and great editing! Please do more longer episodes like this one! I'm just beginning to appreciate in a more profund way what the birth of Christ means for all of us. Merry Christmas, dear brothers! Crăciun fericit!
It’s almost a New Testament version of the three angels in Abraham’s hospitality in the Old Testament, but here the three magi bow down to the Babe, rather than the man bowing/welcoming the angels. Interesting stuff I just thought about idk if any Church Fathers say anything about this
This brought tears to my eyes. Now I understand the incense. And it feels so tangible. So merciful that He came to earth and loves us and gives us ways to connect. I sense His presence even now and even though I am Protestant I greatly appreciate all that I am learning on this channel.
Beautiful video. The narrative of course, but the atmosphere too. Never saw you before but I'm so subscribing right now! Thanks again! From Kodiak and Sitka Alaska. America's Holy Land.
@@PatristixSt Juvenali and his Companion, St Peter the Aleut who sleeps in California, St Herman, St Yakov Netsvetov, and very soon Blessed Matushka Olga. The America's Holy Land indeed. Thank you again for this beautiful video. Many channels on RUclips have fine content but you have backed it with a calm and lovely set with subdued and purposeful lighting. I realize you might not have applied your artist's eye to the set, but certainly SOMEONE arranged it... even if unknown to you. Beauty will, after all, save the world!
Thank you! We spent quite some time designing the set, lighting, and general feel of it. Very glad you're enjoying it! We very much agree about beauty. It will save the world and belongs in everything! Especially when we get to talk of the treasures of the Church
I am traveling west to celebrate at my parents and I am bringing frankincense with me as a burnt offering for our Lord Jesus Christ's birth! Joyeux Noël à tous!
What a truly amazing story! I love that it was the doubting Thomas who shared with them the gospel. And your point from St. Gregory that once we've encountered Jesus Christ we're never to go back to the way we've come from. What a truly enlightening understanding of that passage. Thank you for this message!
This is amazing. I was originally Malankara (Indian) Orthodox and my family switched to the EO Church. The tradition of Thomas baptizing the three wise men is not a tradition that survives in India because the modern Indian Church isn’t ancient. I’m so glad that the EO Church preserved these traditions.
I read somewhere that the 3 magi didn't just come in 3, but also brought an entourage because it wouldn't make sense if 3 important people from a far away land bringing an expensive gift such as gold just came by themselves without security measures.
So very interesting indeed, though if I may add a small observation. The single biblical account in Matthew 2 simply presents an event at an unspecified point after Christ's birth in which an unnumbered party of unnamed "wise men" (μάγοι, mágoi) visits him in a house (οἰκίαν, oikian), not a stable. Just for additional information for anyone that is wanting to know more.
The chocolate "gold" coins are a nice humble touch. I see much of what is said, here, as uncitable legend, but that isn't to say that these stories aren't lovely and meaningful. I also appreciate learning about the Orthodox Church, about which I know very little. This fellow does a nice job and is an appealing representative of his faith. Glad I found this channel.
Please look into the fact that the 3 Magi didn’t end up finding Christ child in a stable, by the time they got there he was already around 2-3yrs old and the Hoy family had already moved from the cave by then. That is why Herrod had infants murdered in that age range as the Christ child would have been about that old too.
Wow that was really GREAT THANK YOU 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 In the Bible it is stated severally that God is written on the conscious of humans so that no one can say that they don't know. Therefore those that do not call Jesus CHRIST are still known to Him as a "law in and of themselves" St Paul
Thank you brother. And yet u come with another amazing content. I heard from a budist monks that they knew a very special baby coming and they were inquiring to take the baby to formaly educate him in the budist monestary. Its amazing
Acient traditional Catholic belief is slightly different, which I offer with respect: St. Joseph ( acting as the Head of the family) gave the Gold for the Poor, the Frankincense to the Temple, and Our Lady kept the Myrrh for the Annointing of the Sacrificial Lamb at His burial. That is why their Faith is so touching: when the Angel bid them flee, they had nothing but the Providence of the Eternal Father. I love this channel ❤. God bless.
Well, that was cool. You taught me what smelled the two times I’ve been to an Orthodox Church in my original home town, and now I know that the wise men were a symbol of repentance. Wow. Thank you and God bless you!
Thank you for the beautiful facts, I know the story from grandma as she's palestenian orthodox but I didn't know the rest of the story of the 3 wise men, now as a grandma I can tell my granddaughter the full story, beautiful thank you 🙏🏼
Thank you! It was absolutely a thrill to make it (hence it being longer than most episodes!) and we still didn't fit everything in. Always loved the wise men but now we love them more
Dear Brothers in Christ, Andrew & Stefan, if you can't fit all the info into your video, maybe you should consider producing it as an illustrated children's book. God bless 🙏
Well, we don’t actually know how many magi there were, only that they were three gifts. Most likely, there were many more of them and would have been a throng of people with them, adding to the fear from Herod and the people in Israel. Also, they were influenced from Daniel when he and his three friends where taken captive. Daniel would have teachers them about God and they would know about the true God.
As an atheist it’s interesting to look back at the history of the religions. Different peoples took on different beliefs and each religion became the backgrounds to how they evolved.
Thank you kindly good sir. I very much enjoyed your presentation. May Our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ bless you and your loved ones. This I pray, In the name of The Father and of The Son and of the Holy Spirit! Amen! 🙏🏻
Greetings from Melbourne! Just discovered your channel and loving the content. Also, had no idea you guys are based in Australia! Very cool! The story of the 3 wise men has always resonated with me. I’m a convert to Orthodoxy from Hinduism. Although Hinduism is different from Zoroastrianism, there are ancient links between the two religions and cultures (astrology is big in Hinduism too, till this day). In discovering the truth of Christianity and Orthodoxy, the 3 wise men were inspiring figures for me. As men from “the East” I see them as representatives of not just the Chaldeans or the Persians, but the entire Far East, who followed the star of faith which led them to the manger. To a large extent this reflects my own journey, spiritually speaking, from the East (my native religion) to Christ, by following the star of faith (genuine seeking for the truth). It was also very interesting to know that St Thomas met the 3 wise men on his way to India. The fact that Christ was visited by men from the East at his birth, and the fact that he sent the apostle Thomas to India, makes me think that spreading the gospel to the Far East was an important part of Christ’s mission. I always thought of Christianity as a religion of the West. But in discovering the Orthodox Church I found that this was not so, far from it in fact. By the way, part of me wonders whether the 3 wise men, simply by virtue of the fact that there are 3 of them, has some connection to the Trinity? Would love to hear any insight on this!
Christianity is very much connected to the East indeed! And you walk in the footsteps of the magi, and the star still leads to Christ! There is actually a very old traditional story that one of the wise men was Punjabi or Indian. A 14th century collection of traditions written in Germany by John of Hildeheim says he passed through a famous silk route city in Punjab on his way to Bethlehem. This matches with an old Armenian tradition that says Caspar was Indian.
@@PatristixThanks. Yes I have heard this before too. It might be worth pointing out that the region known then as the Punjab was much larger than the current Indian state of Punjab. It historically included large parts of what is now Pakistan and possibly Afghanistan. So it’s not too much of a stretch to think that one of the 3 wise men may have been from that region. In any case, great video!
@@PatristixI have done some further research on Zoroastrianism, which I knew very little about. For those unaware, there is still a community of Zoroastrians living in India (“Parsis”). I actually have a good friend who belongs to this community. The prophet Zoroaster had a vision of a being known as the “mind of God”, who taught him about Ahura Mazda, the supreme and one God. Surely, these are references to the Son of God (the divine Logos) and God the Father. Further, he is told of the birth of a future messiah who will be born of a virgin. There are many other details and almost all of them agree with the Orthodox Christian understanding. It therefore ties up very nicely with the story of the Magi, the fact that they were Zoroastrians and were aware of the birth of a future Messiah, that they found this to be Jesus, all of this makes sense.
Here's what I remember from my studies before I watch, the names of the kings/magi/wisemen were Melchoir, Gaspar (Casper) & Balthazar, but they were likely leading an entire caravan of many priestly (possibly thousands) and brought three very specific & symbolically important gifts. I've also heard it said the gifts were symbols of their respective homelands. St. Bede claimed these homelands to be Arabia, Sheba (Ethiopia) & Egypt, however that wouldn't make them Wisemen of the East for someone born in Bethlehem, more like Men of the South. The magi designation insinuates that they hail from different realms of the Persian Empire. The most compelling explanation of this I ever heard was they were the priestly class of the Persian Jewish Diaspora, still in exile in the Orient, making a pilgrimage to recognize the true & rightful King of the Jews foretold in Scripture, the Moshiach, the Christ child, similar to Samuel the Prophet chrismating young David, perhaps even a OT/NT typology...and I think that's what I remember, let's see what I learn.
The underlying Aramaic word for the LXX reading of ⲙⲁⲅⲟⲓ "Magi" is אשפיא 'Ashephaia' meaning "astrologers." Thus Daniel was appointed chief of the Magi.
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They were not magicians. Magi was a direct equivalent of priests. They were priests in the Persian Empire, that is were Mitra that priests put on there head comes from.
The one thing Judaism and Zoroastrianism do have in common is that they both are monotheistic. Perhaps that is why they were so interested in the Messiah of another culture.
The more I find out about Orthodoxy, the more my faith is strengthened. I never knew we had relics of both the bodies of the Magi, but also their gifts. Glory Be to God!
Incredible!! I just started going to an Orthodox church in my city. I haven't been back to my Protestant church since my very first Divine Liturgy a month ago.
This video along with all the others on your channel continue to blow my mind and help me grow and learn/relearn all the things I thought I knew.
God bless, and please pray for me friends!
WHAT WONDERFUL NEWS! GLORY TO GOD!
Very many of us understand what you just said. We understand..☦📿💝📿☦
Just like St. Gregory the Great said;-)
Pray for Gracie, holy St. Gregory!
That’s so interesting God bless you
Short history of Christianity: ruclips.net/video/uzuYZi749CM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/zT-v3RT8678/видео.htmlsi=yyA9MqlAaTjg0eIo
Finding and learning about the Christian Orthodox Church: ruclips.net/video/PE9TDX_dqOo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/gPPPAqBySHo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/FneNd9UvC_g/видео.html
The Holy Fire:
ruclips.net/video/4kZu87tyqJ4/видео.html
ruclips.net/user/shortsf7pPHngZ5Gc?feature=share
See "Religion of the Apostles" by Father Dr. Stephen De Young, the books of Michael Whelton, Father Seraphim Rose, and those of Jaroslav Jan Pelikan Jr., a former American Lutheran pastor who converted to Orthodoxy and the testimony of prof. Hugo Tristram Engelhardt, Jr., former Roman Catholic: journeytoorthodoxy.com/2011/03/herman-tristram-engelhardt-how-i-became-orthodox/ And the History of Christianity!
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"Do you want to know what happened, to that little boy that you met?" 💕😊
St. Thomas is so awesome.
At this level of production, I'm going to have to start making popcorn for future videos
We highly approve of Patristix popcorn
Watching from Nairobi, Kenya. This is the best video messages i have heard in my entire life.
God bless you I hope you will reach more about the orthodoxy
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You know that there is an Orthodox church in Nairobi? Are you a member there?
You are touching on something truly profound. Before the Islamic invasion of Persia, many Persian kings began to recognize and respect the Christian community. Today, in modern Persia(iran), we see a growing number of people leaving Islam in search of something deeper.
It’s important to note that Zoroastrianism is not pagan-it is a monotheistic faith that shares many similarities with Christianity. Zoroastrianism predicts the coming of a savior, the Saoshyant, which makes the connection between the three Magi-Zoroastrian priests-searching for the Saoshyant and finding Him in Christ even more significant.
As an Iranian, I never made this connection before, but I now see how Christianity may be the true fulfillment and extension of Zoroastrianism. I believe this story is incredibly important for Iranians to know and understand.
So the Iranians have been their manipulating the psyche of the world from the time of Mithraism and its spread throughout the Roman Empire prior to Christianity and with the story of the Magi yet again they brought about change in Judaic tradition. While all these events shook the belief and politics of the Roman Empire later the Iranians once again manipulated the Arabian pagan tradition and changed the course of history through the teaching of Salman the Persian as a mentor and spiritual supervisor to Mohammad in Arabia. It was through his knowledge ,wisdom and political advises that Mohammad could change the Arabian tradition and ways of life and Islam later becomes a universal religion.
Cool. Yep, one of my faves so far too! Also, it explains why Kaspar (& to a lesser extent Baltasar & Melkior) are still today names more commonly found in Germany
Very cool. Happy Christmas from Croatia to Germany!
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Come to Adelaide and have tea with me sir. Let me repay the glorious hospitality you have shown me with these videos. Truly remarkable
Will remember this offer should we get to Adelaide! Thank you for it.
What a truly amazing story! I love that it was the doubting Thomas who shared with them the gospel. And your point from St. Gregory that once we've encountered Jesus Christ we're never to go back to the way we've come from. What a truly enlightening understanding of that passage. Thank you for this message!
Thank you so much, we are so blessed to have the full history of Christ in our Orthodox faith!
It's one of my favorite episodes so far, too!
What a blessing! This story really brought a tear to my eyes and reminded me of just how rich and beautiful the Holy Tradition is. Thank you, you have a new sub!
I am not orthodox, but Episcopalian. I love your channel. Thank you ❤
That was surely one of my favorite episodes, too! Indeed, you always surprise us, guys! It's amazing how much information you comprehend in a few minutes!
Thank you, Dana! Craciun ferecit!
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Thank you for watching them!
“a moment with the beloved and a river changes its course”
Thank you again, I thought that there was not much that I could learn, but you have proved me wrong again. Love the decorations 🎉
I believe that the Magi are descendants of Chaldeans whom served under Daniel the prophet. That's how they knew where and when the Messiah was prophesied to be born even though they were Gentiles.
That would explain how they have the same hats the three youths have in icons.
Thank you so very much! I really loved this episode. Glory to God, and may He keep blessing me through you! Christ is born!
This was absolutely lovely. Beyond anything i would have anticipated. I love so very often that the Church knows what happened in these stories and It enriches our faith and awe and love. Too many points to mention:The Theotokos, St. Thomas, Milan, Cologne.. (now i know why their relics are said to be there..)
This is not just an excellent episode.. this is a blessing.
A blessing...☦📿🎶📿☦
firstly like and then watch the video. the best orthodox page. marry Christmas guys, you are the best team. The god bless you for that work
This was really incredible. Undoubtedly one of my favourite videos on your channel so far. Merry Christmas!
One of our favourites so far as well! Merry Christmas!
This episode is epic! I had no idea that there was so much more to the story of the Magi! 🤯 Thank you ever so much, Brothers Robinson, for these beautifully crafted videos and historical stories. This episode brought tears to my eyes as a Protestant who didn't know she was missing out on so much. Thank you, and may God grant you many years!
Short history of Christianity: ruclips.net/video/uzuYZi749CM/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/zT-v3RT8678/видео.htmlsi=yyA9MqlAaTjg0eIo
Finding and learning about the Christian Orthodox Church: ruclips.net/video/PE9TDX_dqOo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/gPPPAqBySHo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/FneNd9UvC_g/видео.html
The Holy Fire:
ruclips.net/video/4kZu87tyqJ4/видео.html
ruclips.net/user/shortsf7pPHngZ5Gc?feature=share
See "Religion of the Apostles" by Father Dr. Stephen De Young, the books of Michael Whelton, Father Seraphim Rose, and those of Jaroslav Jan Pelikan Jr., a former American Lutheran pastor who converted to Orthodoxy and the testimony of prof. Hugo Tristram Engelhardt, Jr., former Roman Catholic: journeytoorthodoxy.com/2011/03/herman-tristram-engelhardt-how-i-became-orthodox/ And the History of Christianity!
I loved this podcast with its rich and fascinating history of the three magi.
This was AMAZING!!! I think one of my favorite videos of yours yet. Blew my mind...full of really excellent information. God's Providence that you came out with this when you did as I was REALLY wanting to understand the Magi better this year. It's been on my heart specifically because of the myrrh. The myrrh-streaming Iveron Icon is coming to my church soon & naturally, having questions about the myrrh, it's the Nativity season, I really started to wonder about the Magi. My questions about myrrh aren't quite answered yet, but I absolutely loved this. Thank you so much for all your hard work in presenting this ❤.
Wonderful! I too really enjoyed that episode! God bless you for a happy and holy Christmas. Love to all your family.
Merry Christmas, Father Philip!
What a presentation, Thank you for this Valuable Knowledge, God Bless You!!!
Evlogitos ho Theos imoun! Mahalo from Hawai'i for this wonderful video hagiagrophy...
Where could I read about interesting Orthodox stories like this one? You guys never fail to surprise me!
The descriptions of our videos are full of links that will take you to websites with more stories. The best thing is honestly to attend an Orthodox Church regularly and pay attention to the hymns and homilies. They are FULL of amazing theology and stories. Your priest will also know of some good books to read.
The @BibleIllustrated channel is also crammed with amazing stories from across the Orthodox world and they're told well
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One of my favorite episodes yet. 💙☦️
Thank you for sharing 💕💕💕 I never knew this much about the wise men ☦️ May God grant you many years ❤
I had already sent this out to several before i began to watch... and then i heard the instrumental melody of "We Three Kings..." as it began.. THAT is a lovely way to begin...
(MORE later from me, i expect, when i get to the end.!💝)
That opening track was one of our favourites to use so far!
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Glory to God. Loved this episode!
My favorite Christmas song has always been "We Theee Kings" . Ive just always loved their part of our Christmas story. ☦️
The ones who worshiped stars eventually worshiped the creator of the stars!
Good episode! One thing I didn't hear you mention is the possible/probable connection between the Magi and the Prophet Daniel. As I recall (and I must admit that I don't remember where I heard or read this), when the Prophet Daniel was appointed by King Nebuchadnezzar as his chief sage, he passed a lot of knowledge about the things he had prophesized to the Babylonian wise men and it remained in their tradition. Fast forward to the time of the Persian rule over Babylon (which you did mention) and it seems that the Magi were expecting this sign of the birth of the Messiah, at least in part because of the knowledge that had been handed down to them from the time of Daniel. Is this something you have encountered in your research?
I was wondering this as well.
Great episode and great editing! Please do more longer episodes like this one!
I'm just beginning to appreciate in a more profund way what the birth of Christ means for all of us. Merry Christmas, dear brothers!
Crăciun fericit!
God bless you! ❤️
It’s almost a New Testament version of the three angels in Abraham’s hospitality in the Old Testament, but here the three magi bow down to the Babe, rather than the man bowing/welcoming the angels. Interesting stuff I just thought about idk if any Church Fathers say anything about this
That’s very interesting. I was also wondering whether the 3 wise men are in some way a reflection or a homage to the Trinity.
Another great video! So many things I never heard growing up protestant. Thank you so much for these videos.
This brought tears to my eyes. Now I understand the incense. And it feels so tangible. So merciful that He came to earth and loves us and gives us ways to connect. I sense His presence even now and even though I am Protestant I greatly appreciate all that I am learning on this channel.
Thank you so much for watching!
You may enjoy our other video that focuses more on incense in the Church: ruclips.net/video/wz5uKwlIeCY/видео.html
Thank you for always expanding my knowledge.
I loved this video! Thank you so much!
Beautiful video. The narrative of course, but the atmosphere too. Never saw you before but I'm so subscribing right now! Thanks again!
From Kodiak and Sitka Alaska. America's Holy Land.
Merry Christmas! Glad you found us.
Would love to visit Alaska one day, a 'Holy Land' is a nice name for it.
@@PatristixSt Juvenali and his Companion, St Peter the Aleut who sleeps in California, St Herman, St Yakov Netsvetov, and very soon Blessed Matushka Olga. The America's Holy Land indeed.
Thank you again for this beautiful video. Many channels on RUclips have fine content but you have backed it with a calm and lovely set with subdued and purposeful lighting. I realize you might not have applied your artist's eye to the set, but certainly SOMEONE arranged it... even if unknown to you. Beauty will, after all, save the world!
Thank you! We spent quite some time designing the set, lighting, and general feel of it. Very glad you're enjoying it! We very much agree about beauty. It will save the world and belongs in everything! Especially when we get to talk of the treasures of the Church
I always enjoy your videos. 👍😁 And I learn so much!
Awesome video! Thank you!
Beautiful 🙏🏻🕊️
I am traveling west to celebrate at my parents and I am bringing frankincense with me as a burnt offering for our Lord Jesus Christ's birth! Joyeux Noël à tous!
This is also one of my favorite episodes! WOW.....
I,really appreciate this reel. Story like these continue to,connect me to days of Jesus… it would to chat Bible issues and times..thanks Bmore Mike
Interesting as always thank you. Never knew the 3 wise men were in Cologne now!
That was awesome! Thank you for your channel!
Excellent episode, so many new details about these heroes of the faith! Merry Christmas! ☦️🎄❤️
We were really excited making this one. We started out with some great facts and found a bunch more as we prepared for it. We love the wise men!
Praise be JESUS CHRIST NAZARENE ALMIGHTY! Thank you so much for your message! God bless always!😇🙏
Thank you for sharing this, it's extremely interesting to me and really helpful. God Bless 🙏🏻💖
What a truly amazing story! I love that it was the doubting Thomas who shared with them the gospel. And your point from St. Gregory that once we've encountered Jesus Christ we're never to go back to the way we've come from. What a truly enlightening understanding of that passage. Thank you for this message!
This is amazing. I was originally Malankara (Indian) Orthodox and my family switched to the EO Church. The tradition of Thomas baptizing the three wise men is not a tradition that survives in India because the modern Indian Church isn’t ancient. I’m so glad that the EO Church preserved these traditions.
1st. I know this is gonna be an amazing episode, been waiting for it.
God bless you.
I was not disappointed. I loved every second.
Joyeux noel!
I read somewhere that the 3 magi didn't just come in 3, but also brought an entourage because it wouldn't make sense if 3 important people from a far away land bringing an expensive gift such as gold just came by themselves without security measures.
So very interesting indeed, though if I may add a small observation. The single biblical account in Matthew 2 simply presents an event at an unspecified point after Christ's birth in which an unnumbered party of unnamed "wise men" (μάγοι, mágoi) visits him in a house (οἰκίαν, oikian), not a stable. Just for additional information for anyone that is wanting to know more.
I love our Churrch for preserving these wonderful truths about the origins of our faith. Thank you so much for sharing this ❤️
Thank you .I was glued to this .
This is one of my favorite episodes as well.
Thank you for these well informed and beautifully presented videos. Am learning so much from them. 💕💕🙏🙏
Can someone tell me where scripture says it was three kings? I only see three gifts mentioned.
Enjoyed this. 👏 👏 👏
The chocolate "gold" coins are a nice humble touch. I see much of what is said, here, as uncitable legend, but that isn't to say that these stories aren't lovely and meaningful. I also appreciate learning about the Orthodox Church, about which I know very little. This fellow does a nice job and is an appealing representative of his faith. Glad I found this channel.
"Real frankincense, real myrrh and real, chocolate, gold coins." ☺️ Thanks I needed that.
It’s really interesting story ❤ Thank you 🙏
Beautiful
Wow. Exceptional, informative and amazing. Thank you!
Thanks! One of our favourites episodes to make
Please look into the fact that the 3 Magi didn’t end up finding Christ child in a stable, by the time they got there he was already around 2-3yrs old and the Hoy family had already moved from the cave by then. That is why Herrod had infants murdered in that age range as the Christ child would have been about that old too.
You hit it right in the head. Exactly right. Thanks for raising this important point.
Wow that was really GREAT THANK YOU 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 In the Bible it is stated severally that God is written on the conscious of humans so that no one can say that they don't know. Therefore those that do not call Jesus CHRIST are still known to Him as a "law in and of themselves" St Paul
Thank you brother. And yet u come with another amazing content. I heard from a budist monks that they knew a very special baby coming and they were inquiring to take the baby to formaly educate him in the budist monestary. Its amazing
Acient traditional Catholic belief is slightly different, which I offer with respect: St. Joseph ( acting as the Head of the family) gave the Gold for the Poor, the Frankincense to the Temple, and Our Lady kept the Myrrh for the Annointing of the Sacrificial Lamb at His burial.
That is why their Faith is so touching: when the Angel bid them flee, they had nothing but the Providence of the Eternal Father.
I love this channel ❤. God bless.
Thank you ❤
Well, that was cool. You taught me what smelled the two times I’ve been to an Orthodox Church in my original home town, and now I know that the wise men were a symbol of repentance. Wow.
Thank you and God bless you!
Thank you! We have another episode a bit more about that smell of incense you might like: ruclips.net/video/wz5uKwlIeCY/видео.html
My Dutch father is a Balthazar Christiaan. Never ever heard that name before apart from the Magi.
Thank you for the beautiful facts, I know the story from grandma as she's palestenian orthodox but I didn't know the rest of the story of the 3 wise men, now as a grandma I can tell my granddaughter the full story, beautiful thank you 🙏🏼
Could you do a video sometime on St. Kassiani? She’s my patron (and a super cool lady) but there’s not a lot of content about her!
Yes! She's actually been one of our planned saints for quite a while and an episode will come out during Lent. She's one of our favourite saints too
This video is on another level!
Thank you! It was absolutely a thrill to make it (hence it being longer than most episodes!) and we still didn't fit everything in. Always loved the wise men but now we love them more
Dear Brothers in Christ, Andrew & Stefan, if you can't fit all the info into your video, maybe you should consider producing it as an illustrated children's book. God bless 🙏
Love it
I always have frankincense and myrrh resin in my home it smells divine.
Where can I get that tea? And sugar cubes?
Great content
I think you should turn this into a book with photos and illustrations! Families could read it every January 6th!
Well, we don’t actually know how many magi there were, only that they were three gifts. Most likely, there were many more of them and would have been a throng of people with them, adding to the fear from Herod and the people in Israel. Also, they were influenced from Daniel when he and his three friends where taken captive. Daniel would have teachers them about God and they would know about the true God.
As an atheist it’s interesting to look back at the history of the religions. Different peoples took on different beliefs and each religion became the backgrounds to how they evolved.
Thank you kindly good sir.
I very much enjoyed your presentation.
May Our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ bless you and your loved ones.
This I pray,
In the name of The Father and of The Son and of the Holy Spirit!
Amen! 🙏🏻
Merry Christmas!
The "We Three Kings" music in your intro gives me goosebumps
So glad to hear that! It was really exciting being able to use it for the opener. Epic carol, epic rendition.
Loved that epic three kings theme !
Cheers! It's one of our favourite songs we've used on the show!
Greetings from Melbourne! Just discovered your channel and loving the content. Also, had no idea you guys are based in Australia! Very cool!
The story of the 3 wise men has always resonated with me. I’m a convert to Orthodoxy from Hinduism. Although Hinduism is different from Zoroastrianism, there are ancient links between the two religions and cultures (astrology is big in Hinduism too, till this day). In discovering the truth of Christianity and Orthodoxy, the 3 wise men were inspiring figures for me. As men from “the East” I see them as representatives of not just the Chaldeans or the Persians, but the entire Far East, who followed the star of faith which led them to the manger. To a large extent this reflects my own journey, spiritually speaking, from the East (my native religion) to Christ, by following the star of faith (genuine seeking for the truth).
It was also very interesting to know that St Thomas met the 3 wise men on his way to India. The fact that Christ was visited by men from the East at his birth, and the fact that he sent the apostle Thomas to India, makes me think that spreading the gospel to the Far East was an important part of Christ’s mission. I always thought of Christianity as a religion of the West. But in discovering the Orthodox Church I found that this was not so, far from it in fact.
By the way, part of me wonders whether the 3 wise men, simply by virtue of the fact that there are 3 of them, has some connection to the Trinity? Would love to hear any insight on this!
Christianity is very much connected to the East indeed! And you walk in the footsteps of the magi, and the star still leads to Christ! There is actually a very old traditional story that one of the wise men was Punjabi or Indian. A 14th century collection of traditions written in Germany by John of Hildeheim says he passed through a famous silk route city in Punjab on his way to Bethlehem. This matches with an old Armenian tradition that says Caspar was Indian.
@@PatristixThanks. Yes I have heard this before too. It might be worth pointing out that the region known then as the Punjab was much larger than the current Indian state of Punjab. It historically included large parts of what is now Pakistan and possibly Afghanistan. So it’s not too much of a stretch to think that one of the 3 wise men may have been from that region. In any case, great video!
@@PatristixI have done some further research on Zoroastrianism, which I knew very little about. For those unaware, there is still a community of Zoroastrians living in India (“Parsis”). I actually have a good friend who belongs to this community. The prophet Zoroaster had a vision of a being known as the “mind of God”, who taught him about Ahura Mazda, the supreme and one God. Surely, these are references to the Son of God (the divine Logos) and God the Father. Further, he is told of the birth of a future messiah who will be born of a virgin. There are many other details and almost all of them agree with the Orthodox Christian understanding. It therefore ties up very nicely with the story of the Magi, the fact that they were Zoroastrians and were aware of the birth of a future Messiah, that they found this to be Jesus, all of this makes sense.
“Old Christmas” is traditionally celebrated on Jan 6th in Appalachia in the US.
Cool to know the true origins now.
Thanks for adding actual captions for the Deaf ❤
I read the kings became bishops.
Is there a picture of the gifts anywhere?
Here's what I remember from my studies before I watch, the names of the kings/magi/wisemen were Melchoir, Gaspar (Casper) & Balthazar, but they were likely leading an entire caravan of many priestly (possibly thousands) and brought three very specific & symbolically important gifts. I've also heard it said the gifts were symbols of their respective homelands. St. Bede claimed these homelands to be Arabia, Sheba (Ethiopia) & Egypt, however that wouldn't make them Wisemen of the East for someone born in Bethlehem, more like Men of the South. The magi designation insinuates that they hail from different realms of the Persian Empire. The most compelling explanation of this I ever heard was they were the priestly class of the Persian Jewish Diaspora, still in exile in the Orient, making a pilgrimage to recognize the true & rightful King of the Jews foretold in Scripture, the Moshiach, the Christ child, similar to Samuel the Prophet chrismating young David, perhaps even a OT/NT typology...and I think that's what I remember, let's see what I learn.
The number 3 appears to hold a great deal of significance.
The underlying Aramaic word for the LXX reading of ⲙⲁⲅⲟⲓ "Magi" is אשפיא 'Ashephaia' meaning "astrologers." Thus Daniel was appointed chief of the Magi.
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They were not magicians.
Magi was a direct equivalent of priests.
They were priests in the Persian Empire, that is were Mitra that priests put on there head comes from.
The one thing Judaism and Zoroastrianism do have in common is that they both are monotheistic. Perhaps that is why they were so interested in the Messiah of another culture.
I'm somewhat obsessed with this old order.
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Didn’t the three wisemen visit him later, and not on the night he was born?