Hey DC and Pardo,I really enjoy your Horus heresy content and the great looking army’s you have on your channel.I know mistakes happen and in the heat of battle things are forgotten.Im as guilty as anyone at it.just wondering about the phalanx wardens 4+ 4+ save because I think it’s very strong.don’t they need to be in base contact with two other models to get it?for most of the combats they weren’t.
@@brothervipus5 Yes they do buddy. Yeah many times we said they can be so we just moved on. Problem would be if they would not be possible to be. Sorry for that
Thanks again Pardo for having me round! Still can’t believe I failed that leadership! Thinking back, Lucius could’ve targeted the apothecary as he has precision strikes 🥲 But nevertheless! I will have my revenge!
I'm surprised that you didn't have Sonic Shriekers on any model in that fight, the -1 to hit would have changed it to them hitting on 6's so all would have missed and you would have drawn the fight from the Living Icon buff vs the vexilla even without precision-ing Lucius into the Apothecary.
pro tip for the Kakaphoni - go out and find a bunch of coloured dice sets that you can group in 3's. So 3 white dice, 3 black, 3 EC dice... etc etc. Then you can roll it all at once and still know who is taking gets hot. MUCH faster!
I just roll all hits at once and then randomly alocate any 1s by any means that works. So for a 5 man unit I give them numbers from 1 to 5, rerolling 6s to determine who overheated. For 10 man units I use a D12.
Loved seeing more of the Emperors Children. No Sonic Lances on the phoenix/palatines and no Sonic Shriekers on any characters though makes this almost a loyalist list! The Cataphractii Terminator squad put into the outflank was against the rules as you cannot give units with Heavy keyword the Outflank rule using this RoW. Terminators have to be in Tartaros/Indom to do it, however the Outflank does transfer to their DT so they could Outflank in a Land Raider/Spartan. When Kayron uses the EC advanced reaction and you won the roll with the 11, that is counted as your charge roll, you don't roll again after the overwatch. The Kakophoni did exactly as well as they have for me, its a pity because I love the idea of them but they just aren't worth it currently. The Palatine Blades really need the Sonic Lances for that template shooting attack instead of the bolt pistols, its worth the 25pts. Randing 6's with pinning on wall of death really helps and has shut down a few charges for me.
Hi! I did give Lucius and the champion shriekers but due to sigismunds fearless it only really came Into play against the phalanx but I completely forgot about it 😢 and Ohh good point on the termines in the outflank I didn’t remember that thanks for that! Love the idea of the sonic lances on the blades or Phoenix termies to deter charges hadn’t thought of that! Will definitely be giving that a try next time, hoping to get some Warhawk jump packs too to magnetise a squad of blades so that should be sweet! And I completely agree on the Kakophoni, it’s a shame as they are such a cool unit both models and lore wise but they just aren’t very effective sadly 😢
Great game guys. Love that EC army and Kayron seems a top guy. I’ve not played IF yet but they seem very strong. Those re-rollable 4s are crazy good and I can’t get my head around Sigismunds points. There is no other non-Primarch model in the game that can go toe to toe with him yet he’s only 230 points!! He should absolutely be a beast but feels like he’s a tier above any other legion special HQ (Non Primarch) which feels weird from a gaming perspective.
going to parrot everyone else and say wow... rerolling 4++ and broken sigismund makes this IF RoW so strong, even against a fairly legit EC list. And with the vehicle scoring mission too! Beautiful purple paintjob on the guest's army, but he's gotta bring more surgical augments if he wants a proper traitor list. the game ended up being a great matchup, lucius is a top 5 non-primarch duelist, but in a tier below sigismund, then sevatar, and corswain. hope to see more EC in the future!
Great Batrep! Very well played by the EC, looking at the lists i didnt think that game would be this close. The IF are insane. They just took Sigismunds rules from V1 without changing anything. Who proveread this? Phalanxwarders are sick as well.
Kayron did a fantastic job staying in the fight against Sigismund led Stone Gauntlet. Good report but it did highlight some of the issues with Heresy. Both armies are gorgeous and really nice to see that on the table. If it helps the local group I play with make Eternal Warrior treat instant death as a D3 wounds so we make that mistake playing elsewhere!
These heresy reports are like a new clear breath! A like them so much! p.s. More than a year i needed to watch all the reports on a channel (excepting loyal vs loyal, chaos vs chaos). This was the last) Waiting for new ones! Thanks guys, you are super-duper cool as usual, from the start till the end!
Stone gauntlet is broken as is sigismund, he doesn't need the obnoxious re-roll successful invulnerable saves rule coupled with instant death AND eternal warrior. It's too much, gw need to actually put some decent faq's out.
Stone Gauntlet is too much it should be maxed to 5++ reroll. Sigismund is fine as there is a very good trick against him and that sending me weak one wound characters to challenge him. With wounds not spilling over he doesn’t have a bad side
@@SNBattleReports Yes feeding him sergeants can work but it's not a tactic in keeping with the spirit of the game, people want to have their high tier characters duel and the problem is there is no point doing so as no one baring a primarch can actually win against him, ie. they have almost zero chance, even sevetar can't do it and he once beat sigismund in the lore. Getting rid of the reroll successful invulnerable saves rule would at least give other characters a chance, even though sigismund would still beat them 9 times out of 10. Also look at his points cost compared to other high-level characters, he is auto winning every duel and costs around the same amount of points as the others.......
@@Alex-yg5uh his rules accurately reflect his lore so they are fine. So stop your whining and wear your big boy pants when you watch these reports. 😂 Loved it when Lucius ran like a lil girliemon 😂😂😂
@@Alex-yg5uh totally agree. He has 3 great rules: Instant death, Eternal Warrior and the rerolling of the Invulsave. Comparing him with other praetor level characters and their rules: They usually only have one rule of this kind. Rolling all 3 rules into one character, plus giving him charge boosts and affecting your army building: That is just to much. I think it especially sucks for the internal balancing of the IF: Unless you want to cripple yourself, you would never take any other beatstick. The EC can chose between lucius, Eidolon or a praetor and they can all have their own kind of gimmick, while all costing about the same.
I really think that the IF-Phalanx need to lose the re-rolls to invulnerable saves. Are they the only thing in the game that can reroll invulnerable saves? It's just way too much durability for their (admittedly large) point cost.
Your battle reports are the best out there. When I have a long hard day I always lay down relax and watch your battle reports. Then I realize while I get to relax you are all filming, people better appreciate all the hard work u all put in. Becuase I do. I have to unsub from some patreons so I can patreon with u all. No better way to say I appreciate all u guys do then becoming a patron.
Old video, but funnily enough the liber panoptica, a fan-made balance document, changed Sigismunds eternal warrior to simply be d3 wounds like how you guys did it.
@@SNBattleReports Oh dang, didn't expect for this to get seen. Looking forward to more HH battlereports from you guys! It's my favorite system currently and you're one of my favorite channels for it.
Lovely work guys! Fantastic armies. In the combat between Sigismund and the Terminators vs the Champion and the Blades the ECs should have been Fearless because the champion had been in a challenge (even though he died).
My two legions facing off. Great to see the EC make some screen time. I guess us IF players are the new custodes from V1 eh? Lol So gross 😝. Great Batrep, as always.
@@SNBattleReports I love the bit at the beginning, where you go over the army list and show each unit. That sergeant with the grey beard and eye patch (plasma pistol) in Pardo's Imperial fists is just superb.
Beautiful Emperor's Children army! Well done. On a separate note, I'm curious-- if you don't like the way that the Artificer Armor rules play Pardo, then why in the world do you pay the extra 10 points to have it in your army?
It's a problem where if you don't take it, you're just shooting yourself in the foot. If you and your opponent both agree to do this, it's fine. It's a horrible mechanic but until it's changed we're stuck with it
@@wargamereric9929 I appreciate what you're saying, but it was a very strong Imperial Fist list even without any Artificer upgrades so why take them if it doesn't feel good? It's 30k, not 9th edition tournament 40k. Might as well just take what you want to play with.
murderous strike/instant death on eternal warrior is not a d3 roll its just 1damage pg 237 (AOD) . you are thinking the rule dreads have which is d3 damage. also instant death wounds must be rolled 1st pg 243 (AOD) (under murderous strike )
The trouble with EC vs. IF, is the EC unique units are way over-costed and the IF units are way under-costed and the whole IF rules set is busted and near auto-win. Have yet to see IF lose ever. Maybe only another busted Legion like DA or UM can take them on.
happy new year team, you guys make the hobby proud! i have one question tho, dont you find suspicious the amount of time mr pardo spends pointing the camera at crates? #SN2023 #Pardodoescrates #whereisthehellturkey
@@SNBattleReports In Heresy 1.0, you took saves on the closest model, so placing your artificer armour in the right spot was very important. Also, I'd really dislike if it cost more, nobody would take it anymore because it happens so much that you just roll that 1 within the first three rolls. In addition, if you kit your sergeant out with 20 to 40 points, you shouldn't just risk that all the time. Obviously on something like the Iliastus assault cannons, he's got nothing except the higher Ld, so it is probably fine if he dies, but on other units, I just wouldn't do it. Also, it's not everyday you roll 12 to 18 armour saves and not fail a single one. In most instances, you only save around 1 or 2 extra guys and you sacrifice the leadership. I think your houserule is alright to mitigate it, that way on those support squads it doesn't get too annoying. But I do not actually think it is needed, considering all the downsides to even using the artificer armour in the way you do it.
Luscious is the epitome of that guy you love to hate. IMO the only character I hate worse than him (other than every word bearer that has ever existed.....sorry DC)is Lija fething cuu from gaunts ghosts!
Hi! Yep you are correct there, but for this report I had upgraded them to all have rapiers rather than sabers, think forgot to mention it. Apologies about that 😅
Hi! I did have sonic shriekers on both Lucius and the champion just to have that extra survivability on both the palatine blades and Lucius’s squad. However, sigismund has the fearless special rule and thus grants it to his unit so it doesn’t effect his unit sadly. The one time it did come into play was Lucius against the Phalanx but it completely flew over my head which is a shame as it would’ve helped a lot haha
I might be wrong but I believe when you mix Armour types like that it affects running and like sweeping advance. So the medicae can't run or sweep. He's limited to the movement abilities of the unit he joined.
Hi! The Medicare as far as I know can join a unit for terminators as he has the independent character sub type. But you are correct in saying he wouldn’t be able to run as the terminators have the heavy sub type, however, they are in Tartarus armour not Cataphractii so they can sweeping advance with no issue 😁
Yeah it’s legal before he could only go in terminator armour but now also in power armour which is great. They wouldn’t have been able to run but can sweeping advance as not in cataphractii armour
@@SNBattleReports I massed it with an apothecaries, lol. I believed that all indeps should be in the same armor as a unit they are joining and then I realize that it works only for apothecaries)
@@pelmelville4953that’s incorrect. Cataphractii can’t Sweep because of a rule attached to their armor type, not because they’re Heavy. Heavy unit types may Sweep but can’t Run.
Great BR again lads. Lovely paint job on all them! Beautiful. Wee c&c Instead of saying "We hate the artificer armour rule on sergeants" and then doing it anyway. Why not just house rule no artificer armour on sergeants between players? And avoid that rule altogether. Just seems so silly and boring. Otherwise could roll 2 dice at a time to speed things up. If you roll a 1&2 just 50/50 roll to see if 1 or 2 models die.
That IF ROW is just broken....no clue how that isn't getting nerfed. Say what you will about 40k but atleast gw has balance dataslates for that which would nerf sig and this row instantly
Get GW to 25% the size on the contemptor and leviathan Dreadnought which if you look they could have modeled it off the redemptor frame lower and top case that top half in the Leviathan frame and case arms but redemptor weapon fits slightly out in frame to arms like the troops got 25% bigger but the dreads 25%smaller??? especially with the smoke stack compared to a dread knight unit but the Leviathan feels votann dread??? thinking freeblade and a six unit in full metal alchemist brotherhood with champion iron hands father tec marine and a brother slan in battle named Alphonse forged a new always by his brothers side! 😃😄😁😆😅5 Smile's.
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Hey DC and Pardo,I really enjoy your Horus heresy content and the great looking army’s you have on your channel.I know mistakes happen and in the heat of battle things are forgotten.Im as guilty as anyone at it.just wondering about the phalanx wardens 4+ 4+ save because I think it’s very strong.don’t they need to be in base contact with two other models to get it?for most of the combats they weren’t.
@@brothervipus5 Yes they do buddy. Yeah many times we said they can be so we just moved on. Problem would be if they would not be possible to be. Sorry for that
Thanks again Pardo for having me round! Still can’t believe I failed that leadership! Thinking back, Lucius could’ve targeted the apothecary as he has precision strikes 🥲 But nevertheless! I will have my revenge!
No revenge 4 noise BOIZ 😅😅😅
Stop looking for excuses! You list like a proper traitor should!
@@SNBattleReports Never! Lucius will be back for more and you will regret the day you challenged The Faultless Blade!
I'm surprised that you didn't have Sonic Shriekers on any model in that fight, the -1 to hit would have changed it to them hitting on 6's so all would have missed and you would have drawn the fight from the Living Icon buff vs the vexilla even without precision-ing Lucius into the Apothecary.
@@ed8930 he did but I think my fearless cancelled it ?
pro tip for the Kakaphoni - go out and find a bunch of coloured dice sets that you can group in 3's. So 3 white dice, 3 black, 3 EC dice... etc etc. Then you can roll it all at once and still know who is taking gets hot. MUCH faster!
Love this idea. Works for DA squads taking their unique plasma repeaters too.
I just roll all hits at once and then randomly alocate any 1s by any means that works. So for a 5 man unit I give them numbers from 1 to 5, rerolling 6s to determine who overheated. For 10 man units I use a D12.
Loved seeing more of the Emperors Children. No Sonic Lances on the phoenix/palatines and no Sonic Shriekers on any characters though makes this almost a loyalist list!
The Cataphractii Terminator squad put into the outflank was against the rules as you cannot give units with Heavy keyword the Outflank rule using this RoW. Terminators have to be in Tartaros/Indom to do it, however the Outflank does transfer to their DT so they could Outflank in a Land Raider/Spartan.
When Kayron uses the EC advanced reaction and you won the roll with the 11, that is counted as your charge roll, you don't roll again after the overwatch.
The Kakophoni did exactly as well as they have for me, its a pity because I love the idea of them but they just aren't worth it currently.
The Palatine Blades really need the Sonic Lances for that template shooting attack instead of the bolt pistols, its worth the 25pts. Randing 6's with pinning on wall of death really helps and has shut down a few charges for me.
Hi! I did give Lucius and the champion shriekers but due to sigismunds fearless it only really came
Into play against the phalanx but I completely forgot about it 😢
and Ohh good point on the termines in the outflank I didn’t remember that thanks for that!
Love the idea of the sonic lances on the blades or Phoenix termies to deter charges hadn’t thought of that! Will definitely be giving that a try next time, hoping to get some Warhawk jump packs too to magnetise a squad of blades so that should be sweet!
And I completely agree on the Kakophoni, it’s a shame as they are such a cool unit both models and lore wise but they just aren’t very effective sadly 😢
Great game guys. Love that EC army and Kayron seems a top guy. I’ve not played IF yet but they seem very strong. Those re-rollable 4s are crazy good and I can’t get my head around Sigismunds points. There is no other non-Primarch model in the game that can go toe to toe with him yet he’s only 230 points!! He should absolutely be a beast but feels like he’s a tier above any other legion special HQ (Non Primarch) which feels weird from a gaming perspective.
Yes the rule that makes it silly for the points is the forced re-rolls of invul saves passes
Wowzers, that EC army is absolutely gorgeous... as it should be.
It’s is
going to parrot everyone else and say wow... rerolling 4++ and broken sigismund makes this IF RoW so strong, even against a fairly legit EC list. And with the vehicle scoring mission too! Beautiful purple paintjob on the guest's army, but he's gotta bring more surgical augments if he wants a proper traitor list. the game ended up being a great matchup, lucius is a top 5 non-primarch duelist, but in a tier below sigismund, then sevatar, and corswain.
hope to see more EC in the future!
Thanks buddy! Yea agree Sigismund is silly at his points and that RoW is 🤢
Great Batrep! Very well played by the EC, looking at the lists i didnt think that game would be this close.
The IF are insane. They just took Sigismunds rules from V1 without changing anything. Who proveread this? Phalanxwarders are sick as well.
Yeah Sigismund is scary but glad you enjoyed it
Kayron did a fantastic job staying in the fight against Sigismund led Stone Gauntlet. Good report but it did highlight some of the issues with Heresy. Both armies are gorgeous and really nice to see that on the table.
If it helps the local group I play with make Eternal Warrior treat instant death as a D3 wounds so we make that mistake playing elsewhere!
Yeah it’s a great tule actually if not eternal Warriors is soooo good
Great stuff fellas keep them coming, Pardo missing out on assault cannon shots they get 4 each. Not that they were needed 😂
Was I doing less? 😆
Yeah the poor chaps only got to shoot 3 each 😆
These heresy reports are like a new clear breath! A like them so much!
p.s. More than a year i needed to watch all the reports on a channel (excepting loyal vs loyal, chaos vs chaos). This was the last) Waiting for new ones! Thanks guys, you are super-duper cool as usual, from the start till the end!
Thank you so much boss
I'm drooling at these beautiful forces!
Haha thanks Jimmy
Awesome stuff guys! Best battle reports on youtube. Been loving the SN+ content as well
Much appreciated!
Love seeing the EC on the table - great attitude from your guest!
Thanks for watching!
Stone gauntlet is broken as is sigismund, he doesn't need the obnoxious re-roll successful invulnerable saves rule coupled with instant death AND eternal warrior. It's too much, gw need to actually put some decent faq's out.
Stone Gauntlet is too much it should be maxed to 5++ reroll. Sigismund is fine as there is a very good trick against him and that sending me weak one wound characters to challenge him. With wounds not spilling over he doesn’t have a bad side
@@SNBattleReports Yes feeding him sergeants can work but it's not a tactic in keeping with the spirit of the game, people want to have their high tier characters duel and the problem is there is no point doing so as no one baring a primarch can actually win against him, ie. they have almost zero chance, even sevetar can't do it and he once beat sigismund in the lore. Getting rid of the reroll successful invulnerable saves rule would at least give other characters a chance, even though sigismund would still beat them 9 times out of 10. Also look at his points cost compared to other high-level characters, he is auto winning every duel and costs around the same amount of points as the others.......
@@Alex-yg5uh his rules accurately reflect his lore so they are fine. So stop your whining and wear your big boy pants when you watch these reports. 😂
Loved it when Lucius ran like a lil girliemon
😂😂😂
@@Alex-yg5uh totally agree. He has 3 great rules: Instant death, Eternal Warrior and the rerolling of the Invulsave.
Comparing him with other praetor level characters and their rules: They usually only have one rule of this kind. Rolling all 3 rules into one character, plus giving him charge boosts and affecting your army building: That is just to much.
I think it especially sucks for the internal balancing of the IF: Unless you want to cripple yourself, you would never take any other beatstick. The EC can chose between lucius, Eidolon or a praetor and they can all have their own kind of gimmick, while all costing about the same.
I really think that the IF-Phalanx need to lose the re-rolls to invulnerable saves. Are they the only thing in the game that can reroll invulnerable saves? It's just way too much durability for their (admittedly large) point cost.
Agree I think they should only reroll vs shooting and no reroll in combat
@@SNBattleReports That even still might be too durable, but it's a step in the right direction.
Your battle reports are the best out there. When I have a long hard day I always lay down relax and watch your battle reports. Then I realize while I get to relax you are all filming, people better appreciate all the hard work u all put in. Becuase I do. I have to unsub from some patreons so I can patreon with u all. No better way to say I appreciate all u guys do then becoming a patron.
Aww 😍
Old video, but funnily enough the liber panoptica, a fan-made balance document, changed Sigismunds eternal warrior to simply be d3 wounds like how you guys did it.
Haha awesome
@@SNBattleReports Oh dang, didn't expect for this to get seen. Looking forward to more HH battlereports from you guys! It's my favorite system currently and you're one of my favorite channels for it.
awesome to hear!@@BUGS9000
Indomitable will vs sensation of Perfection
Thanks for the vids boyz
Enjoy Champ! Happy Weekend!
@@SNBattleReports You too mate, happy weekend, may the weekend ease your mind
Lovely work guys! Fantastic armies. In the combat between Sigismund and the Terminators vs the Champion and the Blades the ECs should have been Fearless because the champion had been in a challenge (even though he died).
HERESY!!! Also My Imperial Fists have Loyalist Emperor's children as an allied detachment! Double bubble
That’s sounds awesome
ah kayron was a good sport. Hes a bit like if pardo and DC had a son XD
Hahaha
My two legions facing off.
Great to see the EC make some screen time.
I guess us IF players are the new custodes from V1 eh? Lol
So gross 😝.
Great Batrep, as always.
Thanks Ryan
Haha, for those not watching the screen when you paint '45.24'. I looked up from painting my ultramarine plasma squad...
Haha yes! 🙌🏽
@@SNBattleReports I love the bit at the beginning, where you go over the army list and show each unit. That sergeant with the grey beard and eye patch (plasma pistol) in Pardo's Imperial fists is just superb.
@@padanfain7466 thanks boss
Punisher is so good what's not to be convinced lol it can intercept and return fire and it can pin units
Beautiful Emperor's Children army! Well done.
On a separate note, I'm curious-- if you don't like the way that the Artificer Armor rules play Pardo, then why in the world do you pay the extra 10 points to have it in your army?
Hahaha as we play it with the proper rules so imagine the comments if I don’t take them 😂
Anyway I would 100% take them with the way I think it should be used
It's a problem where if you don't take it, you're just shooting yourself in the foot. If you and your opponent both agree to do this, it's fine. It's a horrible mechanic but until it's changed we're stuck with it
@@wargamereric9929 I appreciate what you're saying, but it was a very strong Imperial Fist list even without any Artificer upgrades so why take them if it doesn't feel good? It's 30k, not 9th edition tournament 40k. Might as well just take what you want to play with.
murderous strike/instant death on eternal warrior is not a d3 roll its just 1damage pg 237 (AOD) . you are thinking the rule dreads have which is d3 damage. also instant death wounds must be rolled 1st pg 243 (AOD) (under murderous strike )
Yep we clarify Buddy didn’t you see? Straight after
Oooh I like that rule for the Artificer Armor abuse - only able to roll on the sgt up to his initiative. That will hopefully speed the game up a bit.
Yeah we will have them in our next events
I think I missed where that rule was first mentioned. Anyone have a time stamp?
@@ryanirvine744 Basically we only are allowed to role as many artificier saves as your Initiative
Great report, keep em coming! Tanking any saves is utter nonsense!
Agreed!
With your snap firing heavy support squad into the dread, you get +1 to hit for all shooting, so when snap firing Fists hit on 5's not 6's
I don’t think it works for Snap Firing. Haven’t heard of that before and isn’t really
@@SNBattleReports Q. Can a modifier to the To Hit roll affect an attack made
by a model which is making Snap Shots?
A. Yes
direct copy from the FAQ
Wonderful wonderful wonderful, that’s all I have!❤
Bless ♥️
The trouble with EC vs. IF, is the EC unique units are way over-costed and the IF units are way under-costed and the whole IF rules set is busted and near auto-win. Have yet to see IF lose ever. Maybe only another busted Legion like DA or UM can take them on.
I have a sneaky feeling Imperial Fists have hurt you...
@@SNBattleReports - I'll get my revenge some day. It's the principle of the thing!
happy new year team, you guys make the hobby proud! i have one question tho, dont you find suspicious the amount of time mr pardo spends pointing the camera at crates? #SN2023 #Pardodoescrates #whereisthehellturkey
Thanks Boss and yeah we try our best making Pardo not get too close to the crates 😆
I love the imperial fists so much, but pardo We need Blood angels, The sons of sanguinius need to come to battle!
Mannn we need more support on SN+ to get more armies
Sorry I missed it;
What's your artificer armour house rule?
Only roll as many times as their initiative
Love it.! Thanks
@@SNBattleReports In Heresy 1.0, you took saves on the closest model, so placing your artificer armour in the right spot was very important. Also, I'd really dislike if it cost more, nobody would take it anymore because it happens so much that you just roll that 1 within the first three rolls. In addition, if you kit your sergeant out with 20 to 40 points, you shouldn't just risk that all the time. Obviously on something like the Iliastus assault cannons, he's got nothing except the higher Ld, so it is probably fine if he dies, but on other units, I just wouldn't do it.
Also, it's not everyday you roll 12 to 18 armour saves and not fail a single one. In most instances, you only save around 1 or 2 extra guys and you sacrifice the leadership.
I think your houserule is alright to mitigate it, that way on those support squads it doesn't get too annoying. But I do not actually think it is needed, considering all the downsides to even using the artificer armour in the way you do it.
Luscious is the epitome of that guy you love to hate. IMO the only character I hate worse than him (other than every word bearer that has ever existed.....sorry DC)is Lija fething cuu from gaunts ghosts!
What about Eidolon? Really hateable character as well^^
This is true 😂
Just starting to watch this but the Palatines don't have murderous strike. They do however have Breaching 5+ assuming they're all sabres.
Hi! Yep you are correct there, but for this report I had upgraded them to all have rapiers rather than sabers, think forgot to mention it. Apologies about that 😅
Kayron has replied below
@@Caru0356 No worries, thanks for the explanation, that makes sense now :) Thank you!
Look forward to seeing the Third in action again.
@@nickhughes8533 haha no worries happy to clarify, might be more coming Christmas time once I’m back 👀
Yellow boiz so stronk in 2.0.
nice report, thanks for sharing.
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The weekend is on. Thanks SN batrep... its game time!
Enjoy Brother!
As an Iron Hands player I’m pulling for Sigismund and the fabulous Imperial Fists. 😊😊😊
CRUSH TEH PURPLE NURPEL ⛓️⛓️⛓️
STONER GAUNTLET 4 DAYS
Yes!!! Can’t be any other way Steve
@@SNBattleReports 😁😁😁
Cataphractii cannot get outflank from Maru Skara
Thanks someone said good spot
The outflank token should have been on one of the long board edges and not in the Fists deployment zone as well.
@@jimmybowlsfast really? Doesn’t say that ok outflank says any board edge
@@SNBattleReports how have I missed that! My EC just improved. Cheers for the correction.
Why not upgrade lucius and the palaitines with Sonic shriekers?
Hi! I did have sonic shriekers on both Lucius and the champion just to have that extra survivability on both the palatine blades and Lucius’s squad. However, sigismund has the fearless special rule and thus grants it to his unit so it doesn’t effect his unit sadly. The one time it did come into play was Lucius against the Phalanx but it completely flew over my head which is a shame as it would’ve helped a lot haha
I’ve seen Kayron already explained below
@@Caru0356 I must have missed you saying that
@@eragon12496 No worries I’ve just realised I didn’t state it in the army breakdown so my fault in that one 😅
Minor but at 118 minutes on the 3+ to hit he counted a 2 as a hit
I hope you liked the game and wasnt just this to comment haha
Lmao I could tell who was gonna win just by looking at the lists.
That’s great
Primus medicae in power armor can be attached to terminator unit? Or that’s just a proxying?
I might be wrong but I believe when you mix Armour types like that it affects running and like sweeping advance. So the medicae can't run or sweep. He's limited to the movement abilities of the unit he joined.
Hi! The Medicare as far as I know can join a unit for terminators as he has the independent character sub type. But you are correct in saying he wouldn’t be able to run as the terminators have the heavy sub type, however, they are in Tartarus armour not Cataphractii so they can sweeping advance with no issue 😁
Yeah it’s legal before he could only go in terminator armour but now also in power armour which is great. They wouldn’t have been able to run but can sweeping advance as not in cataphractii armour
@@SNBattleReports I massed it with an apothecaries, lol. I believed that all indeps should be in the same armor as a unit they are joining and then I realize that it works only for apothecaries)
Man, I was hoping to see sigismund cut through the wanna be blood angels.
Haha 😆
Wasn't the EC Land Raider immobilized?
When was that buddy. I don’t recall that
@@SNBattleReports the very first turn, could have sworn, even thought he said it but maybe I am losing my mind.
@@claybillings will go and double check buddy thanks
sweeping advance was a bad failure there.....
What you mean?
@@SNBattleReports warders are in Heavy armour so they can't sweep
@@pelmelville4953that’s incorrect.
Cataphractii can’t Sweep because of a rule attached to their armor type, not because they’re Heavy. Heavy unit types may Sweep but can’t Run.
Great BR again lads. Lovely paint job on all them! Beautiful.
Wee c&c Instead of saying "We hate the artificer armour rule on sergeants" and then doing it anyway. Why not just house rule no artificer armour on sergeants between players? And avoid that rule altogether. Just seems so silly and boring. Otherwise could roll 2 dice at a time to speed things up. If you roll a 1&2 just 50/50 roll to see if 1 or 2 models die.
We really have thought about not playing with it but we can just hear the ppl complaining the other way 😂
@@SNBattleReports I can totally believe that too! 😅
GG
That IF ROW is just broken....no clue how that isn't getting nerfed. Say what you will about 40k but atleast gw has balance dataslates for that which would nerf sig and this row instantly
Agree very strong!
EC army is ... Perfection...
Phalax are havy can do a SA
Whats a SA?
Gotta leave a thumbs down. What a huge mistake with the most epic duel.
Get GW to 25% the size on the contemptor and leviathan Dreadnought which if you look they could have modeled it off the redemptor frame lower and top case that top half in the Leviathan frame and case arms but redemptor weapon fits slightly out in frame to arms like the troops got 25% bigger but the dreads 25%smaller??? especially with the smoke stack compared to a dread knight unit but the Leviathan feels votann dread??? thinking freeblade and a six unit in full metal alchemist brotherhood with champion iron hands father tec marine and a brother slan in battle named Alphonse forged a new always by his brothers side! 😃😄😁😆😅5 Smile's.
I think the size is fine and looks great