Beethoven (and Czerny, Salieri and Haydn) was mine! Would be a great (x4) grandteacher. I'm actually convinced most people who've had a conservatory-educated teacher would be able to go back to some very famous names. Still pretty fun to imagine the things you had learned were from Beethoven himself (or Clara).
"I once believed that I possessed creative talent, but I have given up this idea; a woman must not desire to compose-there has never yet been one able to do it. Should I expect to be the one?" -- Clara Schumann This absolutely breaks my heart. /This/ is why representation is important; if a woman wants to be a successful composer, she shouldn't have to live with the idea that she's the only one. I so wish Clara could have known of the incredibly gifted female composers who came before her, and of all those who would look up to her in the future. She was not alone. I'm thankful she composed what she did, though.
@@mediolanumhibernicus3353 Barbara Strozzi, Francesca Caccini, Isabella Leonarda, Wilhemina of Bayreuth, her sister Anna Amalia, Elizabeth Jacquet de la Guerre, Maria von Martinez, Veronika Dusikova Cianchettini, Louise Farrenc, Fanny Hensel, Gertrude van den Bergh, Marianna Bottini... Those are just a few highlights off the top of my head, there are dozens more. Search Oxford Music or just Google
@@seeyouneverp9158 Stop throwing insults around and engage in a proper debate instead. These people have said something you obviously disagree with, so why not counter them with an actual argument?
No hard feelings. She was right. She was NO composer, but "merely" a voice to her hubby composer and others. Whereas the following females were/are composers in their own right and created lasting masterpieces: Dolly Parton, Carole King, Beegie Adair and Stephanie Trick though they're mainly performers, Aretha Franklin, Billie Holliday, Mahalia Jackson, Nina Simone, Winnie Atwell, Nahre Sol,... Feel free to complete the list...
I listened to this piece daily a few years ago when I was still in high school, because I simply liked the melodies. Now finishing my second year in college and with much more knowledge in music theory and history, I return to find this concerto a dazzling masterpiece. This is written around 1833, when John Field and Mendelssohn's piano concertos are super popular. Clara's piece is infinitely more daring in its harmonic language than the former pieces.
Surely ‘dazzling masterpiece’ goes a little too far. The melodies don’t seem to be of the highest inspiration and the writing is quite conventional, - light years away from her husband’s innovative creations.
"Daring harmonic language" is a great way to describe this piece. The way she moves to unrelated keys is so creative and mature. First year grad student here and can't get enough of her recurring Ab motif.
@@anzioa I'm not at all denying the achievement of this Wunderkind, and I have always been a huge admirer of Clara Wieck and, after all, if she was beloved by Schumann and Brahms, it's clear that she was an extraordinary person as well as artist. My comment was merely to put into perspective some of the rather overblown comments on the quality of this composition. I stand by my comment; this is n9 masterpiece. It is a precocious and promising work by an undisputed wunderkind who went on to be one of the greatest artists (n.b. not composer) of the 19th century.
I'm familiar with many of Clara Schumann's compositions, but I've never heard this concerto before. It is absolutely astounding - - and the fact that she wrote it at such an incredibly young age is mind-blowing. What a superb talent!
Wow, first time I've really heard Clara Schumann -- and encountered a masterpiece. What a loss for us that she never truly had an opportunity to develop her compositional work -- if this is her at age 14, she could have been a giant.
She was the Salami of the Schumann-Brahms Sandwich... Only God knows her presence and genius lit the flames of both Schumann and later Brahms... Truly a love story for the ages.
i DIDN'T REALIZE SHE WAS ONLY 13 .STUPENDOUS MATURITY HERE AND HARMONICALLY SHE GOES PLACES VERY SURPRISING FOR 1830'S .NO HUMMEL FEYNESS HERE OR fIELD .mUCH MORE ENGAGING !I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW GOOD THIS IS .EXCELLENT PERFRMANCE .IVE HEARD IT 4 OR 5 TIMES AND THIS IS THE 1ST TIME I THOUGHT IT NOT A CHORE TO LISTEN TO !!!!lAST CONCERTO SHE PLAYED IN PUBLIC WAS cHOPIN f minor . Ive heard this and followed score 4 or 5 times since it was posted a decade or more on outube. Bst forgotten like Hummel,Burgmuller(please tell me that hack didnt write a pf concerto.Moskowsky and Moscheles are little more interesting . I want to hear more of her solo works .I would love to see some of her programs asa child she also played Copin op.2 .I cant imagine her playing the rubinstein,Tchaikovsky or even the Brahms d minor but I think she did . Those audiences heard music differently than we do . Her instincts here are good .I'm enjoying it this time more than ever .She knosw when to build and when to capult . Its much better than I previously remember .Slow movement is much better music than I ever remember.This is simly the most musical performance I have heard! .Then again maybe this is a better pianist .When I heard another pianist play Paderewsky concerto in public I thought it was awful wheras on cd I tolerated it .Same with ERubinstein no.4 when Hofmann plays it it is music.Noone else makes it interesting.Reiner too I guess .It takes a mind.
She began writing it as a single movement when she was just 13. The other two movements were added by the time she was nearly 16, so it was a three year effort. It shows a strong influence of Chopin but without his originality. For a teenager, though, it is an impressive work.
There are lots of lovely moments in this concerto but the transition from A minor to C major in III starts at 14:26. The C major version of the theme with the sequence and the bassoon / flute orchestration really is a joy to listen to. Youthful and really quite original I think :)
i always love transition from minor to major in piano works, notably Beethoven sonatas; while i prefer minor keys in general because of the melancholia they express, when a major key is played in context of a minor work, for me it somehow has more pathos than a minor key by itself
Un concerto pienamente romantico, scritto a 14-16 anni ,da un musicista in gonnellina . Incredibile.Una ragazza prodigio,visto anche l'orchestrazione tutt'altro che convenzionale. Un gioiello la Romanza. Ottima la prestazione. Un ringraziamento a Olla per il caricamento e le note di consulenza a supporto.
Finally got around to listening to all of her music I have become addicted to her g minor sonata, a work of surprising originality and substance that stands up to anything.
Sagenhaft. Mir neu. Von einer Dreizehnjährigen geschrieben. Dicht, dicht, dicht, faszinierend, Romantik pur, und null nicht keine banalen Längen darinne. Alles dichte Aussage. Danke, Clara, danke, gute Geister. Und auch danke ich für das Einstellen hier.
I think it’s criminal that so few people are talking about the second movement! How beautiful it is when the cello joins the piano. I really enjoy this movement and am definitely seeing some cross overs with Chopin’s Concerto Op. 11
Go to The New Millennium Chamber Orchestra concert tonight or tomorrow afternoon in Palo Alto, CA. My sister, Donna Coleman, is playing this piece. She is a master musician and calls this piece a masterpiece! I'm so excited for her.
Rebecca2001 I was just referring to this little part, but you said it beautifully, they are really completely different as composers. There are only harmonical or general similarites, being romatic composers. Clara I do not know too much.
Sigh...Chopin knew and was influenced by Hummel's music yes, but to say Chopin's style is not his is pretty absurd, eh? Hummel studied and emulated Mozart, who owe much of his music education and understanding of the keyboard from CPE Bach. Shall we say then everything is CPE Bach's style?
A great work… especially by such a young composer. The FINALE though! What can I say? Stunning? Surprising in its depth of dynamic! Amazing! I feel like I’m on a rollercoaster.
@@etiennedelaunois1737 True, and rach learned a lot from Chopin. And it is really hard to define what beautiful even means, both composers are pretty good at second movements.
I enjoy so much the earlyh works fo Clara Schumann, great stuff for an extremely gifted composer. However, her career shows the difficulty of trying to maintain a livelihood as a performer and still compose as well as being married to a gifted composer who eventually becomes institutionalized due to mental illness. Clara is the great example of the great shadows care takers leave behind and in the 19th century there was very little support for her to continue as a composer. I would have loved to see where she would have gone from this concerto --- it is a great amalgam of Mendelssohn, Chopin and early Wagner. You can hear how Schumann learned from Clara!
after she married she could barely even practice the piano because it interfered with robert's composing. apparently the only time she could freely practice was when he was out for drinks at a tavern. it's very sad to think about all the things she could have accomplished if she weren't so busy busy getting pregnant 10 times and being a housewife
Research shows that Clara Schumann's accomplishments as both a concert pianist and composer were highly regarded by the likes of Mendelssohn, Liszt, Chopin, Brahms, and Goethe. I invoke those names here, not to validate her work through male opinion, but because they were prominent figures of the time and they considered her their peer. She composed this work around the ages of 13-16 which is a fantastic display of her already accomplished skill as a composer. Her later works obviously are even more accomplished and mature. Having a concert career which rivaled that of Liszt became the focus for her as she was the primary breadwinner throughout the duration of their marriage, and wanted to provide an environment where Robert could focus on his compositions. With all her time devoted to her concert career and in raising their eight children, I often wonder what Clara would have further accomplished as a composer had she been able to take more opportunity.
Johanna Bopp Thanks for the bio.Clara was an amazing woman. Wife,Mother,Composer,Performer,Care giver,Inspiration, Companion of the Greats.Child prodigy, Hard worker. What a life.
Buona l'esecuzione e la direzione. Emerge l'elemeto pianistico sebbene di facile scrittura. . Clara Shumann fu inequivocabilmente una grandissima interprete.
The piece is very interesting from a number perspectives. First, it gives us a very direct insight into precisely how great a pianist Clara Wieck was. Obviously she had very big hands (even at 13) and commanded every aspect of virtuoso pianism, already at this early age. is it a masterpiece? No. Is it well written? Yes. Written as a vehicle for her as a concert pianist. At no point in musical history was everybody writing masterpieces, and even the ones who did, didn't only turn out supreme masterpieces. These so-called annonymous composers (Moscheles, Czerny, Ries, Dusek, Hummel, etc.) provide the background of the time, and show us what geniuses the Chopin's, Brahms' et. al. really were. When you've heard the operas of Jomelli, Traetta, Piccini, even Christian Bach, etc. then and only then can you realize what an icconoclast and superhuman genius Mozart really was. Anyhow, I love Clara Schumann. Wish I could have heard her play.
@@Bugleur for me too. The more I analyze it the more I am amazed by it; Clara really was shockingly creative. It seems pretty snotty to me to decide whether a piece is a masterpiece based on how much publicity it has gotten.
this is as good anything that chopin composed at 13 , and imo is as good the early concertante works by chopin : variations on la ci darem la mano , rondo de concert opus 14 and polish fantasie opus 13 . Of course that is not better than the both chopin piano concertos
but that is tottaly subjective, is interesting that some great masterpieces were hidden by hundreds of years and today they are mainstream and really famous. The magic of the baroque-classical-romantic repertoire is that it can be renewed all the time, because there are hidden works (for example in the imslp file) that at any time can be rediscovered and we can find totally new music even though it was written 200 years ago
In the comments below Clara gets a lot of deserved enthusaism but also some contra voices. It does noit matter that Beethven and others wrote 'greater' concertos, this work is a delight in itself. It would be like saying that Schumann's Kreiseliana are a geater work than his Papillons, the latter have something entriely of their own to offer. Impressive is the way Clara spontaneously develops her material as she goes along: there is a freshness and originality about it all.If I were a concert pianist, this work would defnitely be in my repertoire. I can listen to it over and over again. I listened to a concerto by Field for comparison, the mature Field is obviously a greater master of what he is doing but his music becomes monotonous and boring, Clara never for a second. Most of the great composers - excepting Schumann - start with a fairly pompous orchestral exposition: not Clara - she breaks the exposition into little inventive pieces that go in different directions but obviously with an aim behind them that breaks out when the piano arrives.
By the way - are the few thumbs-down, shown above, the result of accidently ticking the wrong hand, or are there really and truly some soul-dead individuals out there incapable of enjoying a masterpiece of dramatic beauty, and one played with great style and feeling, not to mention the required technical virtuosity? Casting pearls etc....?
A short bit about the Schuman Wieck relationship. Her father must haven been one of the great teachers in all Europe so try to imagine being born into that, I imagine a little girl who played piano from the very beginnings of her life, I have no doubt she had conquered and was fluent in the Bach Beethoven Chopin language playing even the most difficult pieces with the same ease as riding a bicycle I'm guessing by 8 or 9 she could have toured her entire life. Now as one of her father's students Robert Schumann about 9 years older, must have been studying with her father when she was very young. There is really something about seeing a woman with that kind of talent I think Schumann must have had feelings for her when she was very young. Schumann was on par to become a world class virtuoso when he hurt his hand and was forced to live the life of a composer. Eventually the two must have had an attraction which her father strongly opposed. So I can imagine the things going on inside Schumann how he must have been so envious of her ability. She stopped composing when they married but I think a creative mind like that you can't just turn it off, I think she gave many ideas to her husband and in some cases wrote almost the entire piece with a few edits and let him take the credit. What do you think about that? I also think about how his envy may have helped lead to his insanity, wishing for a life he could never have must have been so frustrating and disappointing especially after coming so close I'm sure he must have fealt he could taste it.
+scottbos68 Yes I think she was very talented indeed, her misfortune of course was that she was born at a time when it was frowned upon to be a female composer. Alma Mahler had the same problem, and Amanda Röntgen-Maier, etc.
You have to consider she lived in a time when women could not vote or even own property, I think women were for the most part considered property and in some cases a bargaining tool. It's not much of a stretch trying to imagine the difficulties for a woman trying to become a world renowned soloist or composer, although I think singers may be a possible exception. Singers have always been more popular and made more money than instrumentalists.
I love this. It's so beautiful. I'm happy that she is getting her due in recent years. I'm not a trained musician, so I didn't know her story until I saw the movie where Katherine Hepburn played her. I love the fact that she was appreciated and famous in her time. It's unfortunate that she was forgotten afterward for so long. She was a progressive and strong woman. She would fit into our time! I actually prefer her music to her famous husband.
She wasn't particularly using Chopin as a model. Both of them modelled their concerti after thr beautiful examples by Hummel and Field, which were the standard fare of that time.
Chopin was inspired by Hummel and Field, sure. Clara Wieck was obviously emulating Chopin, here. It's on record that she heavily studied Chopin's concertante works (Op. 2, the e and f minor concerti, grande polonaise brillante op. 22) around the time she wrote this work. Even without that knowledge, it's quite clear she is a lot closer to Chopin here than Field and Hummel.
Musica con toda la sensibilidad de una mujer........que mas se puede pedir? Desde la fuerza a la delicadez, solo un paso breve y profundo - desde Argentina con afecto
this is very beautiful music to listen to . it's beyond me why would you bother listening if you think it's crap. go do something better in your life than hurling stones at Clara Schumann beautiful music
Considerato quanto Clara era stata brava nel comporre questo concerto per pianoforte, avrà saputo apprezzare al massimo, quello composto dal marito; e a lei dedicato!
as an expertly trained musician from childhood clara knew all the formulas for playing, composing and improvising, and she couldn't go beyond what she'd been trained to do--i can't imagine an audience wanting to sit through this except as some kind of political statement
@@eowynsalvador6664 what is this, some sort of test? Hundreds of great composers are relatively unknown, including, I'd argue, some that are even more talented and gifted. Alkan, for instance, or Mozkowski, or if you're so inclined, Sorabji.
I will agree with those that say there's a resemblance to Chopin's 1st piano concerto! It only took one listen for me to make the same comparison, and yes, I'm also a fan of Hummel. I think this is a beautiful concerto and plan on enjoying it again, but there will always be the remembrance of reading in some liner notes that Clara criticized Robert's piano concerto saying the last movement wasn't inventive (or showy) enough. I love the Robert Schumann piano concerto so much. And there's the theory of her having an affair with Brahms. "Clara Schumann and Brahms were intimate friends for 40 years, and it's only logical to conclude that they consummated their relationship at some point." Brahms and Clara Schumann lived together after Robert Schumann entered the asylum.
Interesting to me how much of a Chopin influence is in the piece and not much of Robert. I suppose she must have played a lot of Chopin and this was part of the result. Thanks for posting.
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I am so pleased to find out Clara Schumann is my great grand piano teacher.
Cool. Liszt was my Great-Great Grandfather’s grandteacher.
So they came from Frankfurt?
Beethoven (and Czerny, Salieri and Haydn) was mine! Would be a great (x4) grandteacher. I'm actually convinced most people who've had a conservatory-educated teacher would be able to go back to some very famous names. Still pretty fun to imagine the things you had learned were from Beethoven himself (or Clara).
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@@ianw1976 and Liszt was Czerny's Student, Czerny was Beethoven's student
"I once believed that I possessed creative talent, but I have given up this idea; a woman must not desire to compose-there has never yet been one able to do it. Should I expect to be the one?" -- Clara Schumann
This absolutely breaks my heart. /This/ is why representation is important; if a woman wants to be a successful composer, she shouldn't have to live with the idea that she's the only one. I so wish Clara could have known of the incredibly gifted female composers who came before her, and of all those who would look up to her in the future. She was not alone. I'm thankful she composed what she did, though.
Who are 'the incredibly gifted women composers who came before Clara Schumann'? The well kind of runs dry after Hildegard von Bingen....
@@mediolanumhibernicus3353 Barbara Strozzi, Francesca Caccini, Isabella Leonarda, Wilhemina of Bayreuth, her sister Anna Amalia, Elizabeth Jacquet de la Guerre, Maria von Martinez, Veronika Dusikova Cianchettini, Louise Farrenc, Fanny Hensel, Gertrude van den Bergh, Marianna Bottini... Those are just a few highlights off the top of my head, there are dozens more. Search Oxford Music or just Google
This is a beautiful description of why diversity in music education matters! ♥️ thank you for this comment.
@@seeyouneverp9158 Stop throwing insults around and engage in a proper debate instead. These people have said something you obviously disagree with, so why not counter them with an actual argument?
No hard feelings. She was right. She was NO composer, but "merely" a voice to her hubby composer and others. Whereas the following females were/are composers in their own right and created lasting masterpieces: Dolly Parton, Carole King, Beegie Adair and Stephanie Trick though they're mainly performers, Aretha Franklin, Billie Holliday, Mahalia Jackson, Nina Simone, Winnie Atwell, Nahre Sol,... Feel free to complete the list...
How many amazing masterpieces composed by the amazing Ladies still quite unknown...
@@eamongriffith280 I think so
Amy Beach’s piano concerto is indeed a masterpiece; not sure about this one but it’s still excellent
@@eamongriffith280 I doubt it.
@@eamongriffith280 yes
@@Yonatan... Nope
I listened to this piece daily a few years ago when I was still in high school, because I simply liked the melodies. Now finishing my second year in college and with much more knowledge in music theory and history, I return to find this concerto a dazzling masterpiece. This is written around 1833, when John Field and Mendelssohn's piano concertos are super popular. Clara's piece is infinitely more daring in its harmonic language than the former pieces.
wow fuck youre such an intelect
@@blackswan1301 Loser
Surely ‘dazzling masterpiece’ goes a little too far. The melodies don’t seem to be of the highest inspiration and the writing is quite conventional, - light years away from her husband’s innovative creations.
"Daring harmonic language" is a great way to describe this piece. The way she moves to unrelated keys is so creative and mature. First year grad student here and can't get enough of her recurring Ab motif.
@@anzioa I'm not at all denying the achievement of this Wunderkind, and I have always been a huge admirer of Clara Wieck and, after all, if she was beloved by Schumann and Brahms, it's clear that she was an extraordinary person as well as artist. My comment was merely to put into perspective some of the rather overblown comments on the quality of this composition. I stand by my comment; this is n9 masterpiece. It is a precocious and promising work by an undisputed wunderkind who went on to be one of the greatest artists (n.b. not composer) of the 19th century.
I'm familiar with many of Clara Schumann's compositions, but I've never heard this concerto before. It is absolutely astounding - - and the fact that she wrote it at such an incredibly young age is mind-blowing. What a superb talent!
Wow, first time I've really heard Clara Schumann -- and encountered a masterpiece. What a loss for us that she never truly had an opportunity to develop her compositional work -- if this is her at age 14, she could have been a giant.
Have a listen to the G Minor Piano Trio!
The cello&piano duo part in the second movement is so beautiful...it touches the deeper side of the soul.
She was the Salami of the Schumann-Brahms Sandwich... Only God knows her presence and genius lit the flames of both Schumann and later Brahms... Truly a love story for the ages.
Just listened to it once and it became one of my favorite piano concertos.
i DIDN'T REALIZE SHE WAS ONLY 13 .STUPENDOUS MATURITY HERE AND HARMONICALLY SHE GOES PLACES VERY SURPRISING FOR 1830'S .NO HUMMEL FEYNESS HERE OR fIELD .mUCH MORE ENGAGING !I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW GOOD THIS IS .EXCELLENT PERFRMANCE .IVE HEARD IT 4 OR 5 TIMES AND THIS IS THE 1ST TIME I THOUGHT IT NOT A CHORE TO LISTEN TO !!!!lAST CONCERTO SHE PLAYED IN PUBLIC WAS cHOPIN f minor . Ive heard this and followed score 4 or 5 times since it was posted a decade or more on outube. Bst forgotten like Hummel,Burgmuller(please tell me that hack didnt write a pf concerto.Moskowsky and Moscheles are little more interesting . I want to hear more of her solo works .I would love to see some of her programs asa child she also played Copin op.2 .I cant imagine her playing the rubinstein,Tchaikovsky or even the Brahms d minor but I think she did . Those audiences heard music differently than we do . Her instincts here are good .I'm enjoying it this time more than ever .She knosw when to build and when to capult . Its much better than I previously remember .Slow movement is much better music than I ever remember.This is simly the most musical performance I have heard! .Then again maybe this is a better pianist .When I heard another pianist play Paderewsky concerto in public I thought it was awful wheras on cd I tolerated it .Same with ERubinstein no.4 when Hofmann plays it it is music.Noone else makes it interesting.Reiner too I guess .It takes a mind.
John Martin just realize too ... god
Classroom I started riding the piano concerto when she was 13. I don’t know when she finished it.
Very Chopin-esque though. The e minor ecpecially
She began writing it as a single movement when she was just 13. The other two movements were added by the time she was nearly 16, so it was a three year effort. It shows a strong influence of Chopin but without his originality. For a teenager, though, it is an impressive work.
There are lots of lovely moments in this concerto but the transition from A minor to C major in III starts at 14:26. The C major version of the theme with the sequence and the bassoon / flute orchestration really is a joy to listen to. Youthful and really quite original I think :)
i always love transition from minor to major in piano works, notably Beethoven sonatas; while i prefer minor keys in general because of the melancholia they express, when a major key is played in context of a minor work, for me it somehow has more pathos than a minor key by itself
I can say with a strong conviction that she was the most underrated genius in the music of all time...
nope
Lili Boulanger is the most underrated genius in the music of all time...
Listen ' Psalm 130 '
Clara touches me deeply with her many works like this. So creative music and beautiful. Timeless. Thanks.
Her work has been the most beautiful thing i have ever heard in my life
Un concerto pienamente romantico, scritto a 14-16 anni ,da un musicista in gonnellina . Incredibile.Una ragazza prodigio,visto anche l'orchestrazione tutt'altro che convenzionale. Un gioiello la Romanza.
Ottima la prestazione. Un ringraziamento a Olla per il caricamento e le note di consulenza a supporto.
9:42“ Piano und Cello in einem wunderbaren Duett.
composed at thirteen years of age,..such a great genius!
*15. only a few early sketches were wrote at 13; still very impressive tho!
Finally got around to listening to all of her music I have become addicted to her g minor sonata, a work of surprising originality and substance that stands up to anything.
The romance is really beautiful - beautiful idea to have the cello and piano duet.
First movement: 0:01
Second movement: 7:07
Third movement: 12:01
Same schedule on the shitter
Sagenhaft. Mir neu. Von einer Dreizehnjährigen geschrieben. Dicht, dicht, dicht, faszinierend, Romantik pur, und null nicht keine banalen Längen darinne. Alles dichte Aussage. Danke, Clara, danke, gute Geister. Und auch danke ich für das Einstellen hier.
I think it’s criminal that so few people are talking about the second movement! How beautiful it is when the cello joins the piano. I really enjoy this movement and am definitely seeing some cross overs with Chopin’s Concerto Op. 11
Also Brahms use of the 'cello in his Bb piano concerto 2nd movement could be a nod to Clara. He was devoted to her.
@@mediolanumhibernicus3353 Didn't he boldly and blatantly dedicate many of his compositions to Frau Schumann?
@@jmbechtel one of them being his op. 118, intermezzo in a major.. the 2nd movement is one of the most beautiful piano pieces ive ever heard :(
Happy Birthday Clara Schumann!!!
200 years.
*01:45** Clara Schumann's phrasing here and onwards is just exquisite.*
Wonderful!!
Grande Maestro Nicolosi ..Bravi tutti .. un segno nella Storia Grazie !!!!
This concerto merits the concert hall!
Go to The New Millennium Chamber Orchestra concert tonight or tomorrow afternoon in Palo Alto, CA. My sister, Donna Coleman, is playing this piece. She is a master musician and calls this piece a masterpiece! I'm so excited for her.
The same Donna Coleman who has taught in Australia? If so, she taught my high school piano teacher when she was at uni! Small world.
Opening First night of the Proms in the Royal Albert Hall , fantastic
Thank you for this piano concert by Clara Schumann! A very nice and of great talent work!
Thanks for sharing it with us.
20:58
Chopin 1st piano concerto ? Same harmonies, orchestra? Nobody ?
Rebecca2001 I was just referring to this little part, but you said it beautifully, they are really completely different as composers. There are only harmonical or general similarites, being romatic composers. Clara I do not know too much.
Sigh...Chopin knew and was influenced by Hummel's music yes, but to say Chopin's style is not his is pretty absurd, eh? Hummel studied and emulated Mozart, who owe much of his music education and understanding of the keyboard from CPE Bach. Shall we say then everything is CPE Bach's style?
Totally
Chopin has a much higher level of musical inspiration.
Not really so. Just romanticism.
A great work… especially by such a young composer. The FINALE though! What can I say? Stunning? Surprising in its depth of dynamic! Amazing! I feel like I’m on a rollercoaster.
Before today I wasn't familiar with Clara Wieck- Schumann's music. Just her husband's. So glad I got turned on to this. Thank you for the posting.
Complimenti e grazie a tutti gli Artisti
I wish Clara Schumann would have written more piano concertos and Robert to
Great piano concerto, very Chopin-like with much piano virtuoso part and orchestra as accompaniment
I heard this on the car radio and I just had to look for it. Thank you Clara!
No one will write a slow movement as beautiful as Chopin, however Clara comes pretty close to rivalling him, especially with that piano and cello duo.
you would be shocked with the ability other composers had to write slow movements
Rachmaninoff 2 2nd movement is better than any Chopin 2nd movement imo
@@SaintSaens0 No. I love it too, but we all can have our own opinion.
@@SaintSaens0 not really the same period though. 😕
@@etiennedelaunois1737 True, and rach learned a lot from Chopin. And it is really hard to define what beautiful even means, both composers are pretty good at second movements.
fantastic music
I've heard other uploads of this concerto, but it is always worth another hearing :)
Bravo brilliance concerto
Amazing and divine melody. Many thanks for to share this dear Fantastic
Fantastic 👍🎹🎵
I enjoy so much the earlyh works fo Clara Schumann, great stuff for an extremely gifted composer. However, her career shows the difficulty of trying to maintain a livelihood as a performer and still compose as well as being married to a gifted composer who eventually becomes institutionalized due to mental illness. Clara is the great example of the great shadows care takers leave behind and in the 19th century there was very little support for her to continue as a composer. I would have loved to see where she would have gone from this concerto --- it is a great amalgam of Mendelssohn, Chopin and early Wagner. You can hear how Schumann learned from Clara!
after she married she could barely even practice the piano because it interfered with robert's composing. apparently the only time she could freely practice was when he was out for drinks at a tavern. it's very sad to think about all the things she could have accomplished if she weren't so busy busy getting pregnant 10 times and being a housewife
This is pure beauty
Listen it together with Robert Schumann’s piano concerto, the pieces are like a pair of twins.
Research shows that Clara Schumann's accomplishments as both a concert pianist and composer were highly regarded by the likes of Mendelssohn, Liszt, Chopin, Brahms, and Goethe. I invoke those names here, not to validate her work through male opinion, but because they were prominent figures of the time and they considered her their peer. She composed this work around the ages of 13-16 which is a fantastic display of her already accomplished skill as a composer. Her later works obviously are even more accomplished and mature. Having a concert career which rivaled that of Liszt became the focus for her as she was the primary breadwinner throughout the duration of their marriage, and wanted to provide an environment where Robert could focus on his compositions. With all her time devoted to her concert career and in raising their eight children, I often wonder what Clara would have further accomplished as a composer had she been able to take more opportunity.
Johanna Bopp
Thanks for the bio.Clara was an amazing woman.
Wife,Mother,Composer,Performer,Care giver,Inspiration, Companion of the Greats.Child prodigy, Hard worker.
What a life.
Which among her later works would you describe as a mature masterpiece? I'm curious.
Buona l'esecuzione e la direzione. Emerge l'elemeto pianistico sebbene di facile scrittura. . Clara Shumann fu inequivocabilmente una grandissima interprete.
The piece is very interesting from a number perspectives. First, it gives us a very direct insight into precisely how great a pianist Clara Wieck was. Obviously she had very big hands (even at 13) and commanded every aspect of virtuoso pianism, already at this early age. is it a masterpiece? No. Is it well written? Yes. Written as a vehicle for her as a concert pianist. At no point in musical history was everybody writing masterpieces, and even the ones who did, didn't only turn out supreme masterpieces. These so-called annonymous composers (Moscheles, Czerny, Ries, Dusek, Hummel, etc.) provide the background of the time, and show us what geniuses the Chopin's, Brahms' et. al. really were. When you've heard the operas of Jomelli, Traetta, Piccini, even Christian Bach, etc. then and only then can you realize what an icconoclast and superhuman genius Mozart really was. Anyhow, I love Clara Schumann. Wish I could have heard her play.
for me it's a masterpiece...
@@Bugleur for me too. The more I analyze it the more I am amazed by it; Clara really was shockingly creative. It seems pretty snotty to me to decide whether a piece is a masterpiece based on how much publicity it has gotten.
this is as good anything that chopin composed at 13 , and imo is as good the early concertante works by chopin :
variations on la ci darem la mano , rondo de concert opus 14 and polish fantasie opus 13 . Of course that is not better than the both chopin piano concertos
but that is tottaly subjective, is interesting that some great masterpieces were hidden by hundreds of years and today they are mainstream and really famous.
The magic of the baroque-classical-romantic repertoire is that it can be renewed all the time, because there are hidden works (for example in the imslp file) that at any time can be rediscovered and we can find totally new music even though it was written 200 years ago
this is one of my favourite pieces of all time, to me this is definitely a masterpiece. who are you to decide what is and is not a masterpiece?
Breathtaking.
Thanks for uploading!
Beautiful
In the comments below Clara gets a lot of deserved enthusaism but also some contra voices. It does noit matter that Beethven and others wrote 'greater' concertos, this work is a delight in itself. It would be like saying that Schumann's Kreiseliana are a geater work than his Papillons, the latter have something entriely of their own to offer. Impressive is the way Clara spontaneously develops her material as she goes along: there is a freshness and originality about it all.If I were a concert pianist, this work would defnitely be in my repertoire. I can listen to it over and over again. I listened to a concerto by Field for comparison, the mature Field is obviously a greater master of what he is doing but his music becomes monotonous and boring, Clara never for a second. Most of the great composers - excepting Schumann - start with a fairly pompous orchestral exposition: not Clara - she breaks the exposition into little inventive pieces that go in different directions but obviously with an aim behind them that breaks out when the piano arrives.
Doubters? Listen to Measure 132 onward. Doubts dispelled. 😊
bravo! excellent music
C'est vraiment très bon, vraiment.
By the way - are the few thumbs-down, shown above, the result of accidently ticking the wrong hand, or are there really and truly some soul-dead individuals out there incapable of enjoying a masterpiece of dramatic beauty, and one played with great style and feeling, not to mention the required technical virtuosity? Casting pearls etc....?
Not sure I'd call this piano concerto a masterpiece, but I don't really understand the downvotes either...
sommige mensen op de pagina praten alsof ze de uitvinder zijn van klassieke piano-muziek
Some people don't like some things.
Probably thought it was to long
A short bit about the Schuman Wieck relationship. Her father must haven been one of the great teachers in all Europe so try to imagine being born into that, I imagine a little girl who played piano from the very beginnings of her life, I have no doubt she had conquered and was fluent in the Bach Beethoven Chopin language playing even the most difficult pieces with the same ease as riding a bicycle I'm guessing by 8 or 9 she could have toured her entire life. Now as one of her father's students Robert Schumann about 9 years older, must have been studying with her father when she was very young. There is really something about seeing a woman with that kind of talent I think Schumann must have had feelings for her when she was very young. Schumann was on par to become a world class virtuoso when he hurt his hand and was forced to live the life of a composer. Eventually the two must have had an attraction which her father strongly opposed. So I can imagine the things going on inside Schumann how he must have been so envious of her ability. She stopped composing when they married but I think a creative mind like that you can't just turn it off, I think she gave many ideas to her husband and in some cases wrote almost the entire piece with a few edits and let him take the credit. What do you think about that? I also think about how his envy may have helped lead to his insanity, wishing for a life he could never have must have been so frustrating and disappointing especially after coming so close I'm sure he must have fealt he could taste it.
+scottbos68 Yes I think she was very talented indeed, her misfortune of course was that she was born at a time when it was frowned upon to be a female composer. Alma Mahler had the same problem, and Amanda Röntgen-Maier, etc.
Fannie Mendelssohn !
+olla-vogala Robert never oposed to her composing intents, but encouraged her
You have to consider she lived in a time when women could not vote or even own property, I think women were for the most part considered property and in some cases a bargaining tool. It's not much of a stretch trying to imagine the difficulties for a woman trying to become a world renowned soloist or composer, although I think singers may be a possible exception. Singers have always been more popular and made more money than instrumentalists.
she had studies in singing
very nice thank you
I love this. It's so beautiful. I'm happy that she is getting her due in recent years. I'm not a trained musician, so I didn't know her story until I saw the movie where Katherine Hepburn played her. I love the fact that she was appreciated and famous in her time. It's unfortunate that she was forgotten afterward for so long. She was a progressive and strong woman. She would fit into our time! I actually prefer her music to her famous husband.
That runs into Robert's F# minor sonata. Such a beautiful Romanze!
True , Schumann often borrowed themes from Clara's compositions
She wasn't particularly using Chopin as a model. Both of them modelled their concerti after thr beautiful examples by Hummel and Field, which were the standard fare of that time.
Chopin was inspired by Hummel and Field, sure. Clara Wieck was obviously emulating Chopin, here. It's on record that she heavily studied Chopin's concertante works (Op. 2, the e and f minor concerti, grande polonaise brillante op. 22) around the time she wrote this work. Even without that knowledge, it's quite clear she is a lot closer to Chopin here than Field and Hummel.
love this
A perfect complement to her husband's Concerto in A minor.
it has a lot more in common with Chopin's e minor
And Clara's Concerto was composed 1833. Robert's was composed later 1845.
good music!
This is an astonishing piece!
this is timeless beauty
Musica con toda la sensibilidad de una mujer........que mas se puede pedir? Desde la fuerza a la delicadez, solo un paso breve y profundo - desde Argentina con afecto
Gracias por su amable y perspicaz comentario.
this is very beautiful music to listen to . it's beyond me why would you bother listening if you think it's crap. go do something better in your life than hurling stones at Clara Schumann beautiful music
Considerato quanto Clara era stata brava nel comporre questo concerto per pianoforte, avrà saputo apprezzare al massimo, quello composto dal marito; e a lei dedicato!
Robert Schumann is a German composer and music critic.
Wonderful! Dir.mus. Esa Tikkala, Rovaniemi Lappland
i’ll never get tired of 18:10
The second movement almost sounds Chopin-esque, same goes for the third Movement. What a pity Clara didn't compose much
22:09 😍😍😍😍😍😍
Impressive for a 13-year-old. I hope her music gets more serious attention as it deserves.
Clara was only 18 when she wrote this.
14 actually, she started work on the third movement in early 1833 and premiered the final three movement work in November 1835
as an expertly trained musician from childhood clara knew all the formulas for playing, composing and improvising, and she couldn't go beyond what she'd been trained to do--i can't imagine an audience wanting to sit through this except as some kind of political statement
The expressive main theme of the slow movement could work nicely for the purposes of ballet class.
Tolles Lied es ist fast nach meinem Geschmack erinnert mich ein bisschen an die Filmmusik von Piratenfilmen
Erinnert mich an die Musik von pirates of the carribean wollte ich sagen
nice cello solo. gonna try and play it!
Play the video at 1.25x speed and the piece suddenly becomes good.
Better than any of the Chopin cocertos
That was great
Not to be confused with the concerto by Robert Schumann, in A minor
Her brilliant work went overlooked. Gee I wonder why...
Probably the same reason as Godowsky.
His Supreme Clarkson-ness nope that’s not it. Try again
@@eowynsalvador6664 what is this, some sort of test? Hundreds of great composers are relatively unknown, including, I'd argue, some that are even more talented and gifted. Alkan, for instance, or Mozkowski, or if you're so inclined, Sorabji.
This piece wasn’t overlooked during Clara’s lifetime. Many of Clara’s other pieces are still extremely famous
Weifang Wang yes but history has not remembered her in the long run as she deserves
Masterpiece
I will agree with those that say there's a resemblance to Chopin's 1st piano concerto! It only took one listen for me to make the same comparison, and yes, I'm also a fan of Hummel. I think this is a beautiful concerto and plan on enjoying it again, but there will always be the remembrance of reading in some liner notes that Clara criticized Robert's piano concerto saying the last movement wasn't inventive (or showy) enough. I love the Robert Schumann piano concerto so much. And there's the theory of her having an affair with Brahms. "Clara Schumann and Brahms were intimate friends for 40 years, and it's only logical to conclude that they consummated their relationship at some point." Brahms and Clara Schumann lived together after Robert Schumann entered the asylum.
Interesting to me how much of a Chopin influence is in the piece and not much of Robert. I suppose she must have played a lot of Chopin and this was part of the result. Thanks for posting.
Charles McHugh
She wrote this before she met Robert, that's why. She was 13 at the time of publishing, I believe.
Chopin copied Hummel's piano concertos. Stop saying this is Chopin's style. It's Hummel's
19:38 😱😍
LING LING!!!
I expected piano, but this sounds amazing
Sadly, its too long for a simple walkman mp3
As many many other small composer, becomes this op.7 spiritually squeezed of the great Beethoven (op 37/73) Chopin (op 11/21) ......
Good concerto.
A 13 anni compone una roba del genere.... E qui c'è già Brahms che scalpita mentre Beethoven è morto solo da pochi anni. Che genio è stata sta donna!
Her name is Clara Wieck.
Gefälliges Stück... Verdient, öfter gehört zu werden (auch wenn es in die 'Hall of Fame' wohl nicht aufgenommen werden dürfte...)
I'm surprised by the chopinesque style of the music
Chopin copied Hummel's piano concertos. Stop saying this is Chopin's style. It's Hummel's
yes I hear chopinesque bits all through it.
bye wait i’m here bc of a Criminal Minds fic- this is such a pretty piece
Lmaooo fanfiction continues to connect people to amazing music, I see.
Belleza