Avoid Buying A Toyota
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The coronavirus (COVID-19) pandemic and semiconductor chip shortages have wreaked havoc on the automotive industry. Car buying is more challenging than ever as supply dwindles and prices soar. Things are so out of whack, in fact, that in many cases, used cars now cost more than their new counterparts. That brings us to Toyota.
One car manufacturer that has seen many of its used car prices soar past the MSRP for new vehicles is Toyota. In fact, five of the top 15 cars whose used prices are currently higher than their new prices are Toyotas, according to Nexstar.
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You are absolutely correct.
I bought a new 2021 forerunner in November 2020. Drove it for a year and sold back to the same dealer I bought it from for $3000 more than I paid for it.
Just sold my 2022 GR 86 with 2000 miles on it for 35,000 and found a brand new one, exact same car only different color for $32,000.
I have seven new cars on order😀
Good for u bad for all of us. Thanks.
@@MrCreative1777 vote with your wallet if you aren't willing to pay for these vehicles then the prices will eventually go down.
Just got into a new RAV4 Hybrid instead of buying the one I had off lease. The dealer actually bought out the lease and gave me a substantial credit on the new car so they could turn it around and sell it used at a profit. I ended up getting the new car slightly below MSRP with other incentives thrown in. Definitely agree you should buy new in this market.
Solid advice. If we the consumers keep buying because of wants but not needs, things will not change with these exorbitant prices.
Expecting Americans to live within their means and not buy things they don't need is a sure fire way to go insane.
Is that a dog sleeping on your desk? 😂
Yep
@@everymandriver 👏🏾😂
It is. Unfortunately that skyving dog is likely to buy a used Toyota.
It’s not sleeping…
Here is the process I went through to get a new Tacoma. Put a 1k deposit down at a high volume dealer April 26 2022. Sales lady called me in early June and I approved the allocated truck she found. My Tacoma was built July 26th and I took delivery September 23. Worth the wait? Hell yes!
My advice: Find a high volume Toyota dealer that gets a lot of allocations and sells at MSRP, put down a deposit and be patient. You will get your dream car.
Tacoma is your dream car? 😂
@@sebastianromero420 It is exactly what I wanted.
I just got a Corolla Cross LE for almost 30,000. I put 10,000 down on it. Not bad considering the times. I drove it off the lot with 5mi on it 🤣
I really lucked out because someone ordered the Cross then decided they didn't want it. It is the perfect vehicle for me. ❤️
homosexuals drive it
Bought a brand new Rav4 Saturday.
Got a 2.3%, no adjustment charge. Waited 2 weeks, had to get a new car because my engine cracked in my Lincoln.
Didn't want to buy a new one but there is no way in hell I'm paying the ridiculous prices for a used car.
what state and dealer
I have a 2020 Rav4 I bought brand new and I absolutely love it! I hope you enjoy your Rav4 too
Aw, my puppy that looked just like yours had to be put down 2 weeks ago at 12 1/2 years old due to a massive tumor in her lung. Love that puppy as much as you can…I miss my girl dreadfully!
In January I bought a brand new 2022 4runner Off road Premium with kdss for $700 below msrp from Marysville Toyota in Marysville WA. There are still a few dealers that aren't ripping people off.
A used 2017-2019 Toyota Corolla is just as expensive as a new 2022 Corolla. Another disadvantage of buying the older model is has the outdated infotainment system that doesn't have Android Auto or Apple CarPlay
It’s official, middle class no longer exists in America.
If I’m going to overpay I’m at least getting a car that I know will last. So I got a used Camry since my old Buick died. No regrets
Just bought a new Camry Hybrid and Toyota Tacoma. Got them both at MSRP therefore, way cheaper than used! 😃
The same thing happened in 08-09… history repeating itself.
New cars were cheaper then used ones?
I think the dog should review cars based on ride comfort and accessibility.
Everyone's situation is different, but yeah. The used car market is utter lunacy right now.
I work at a Toyota Dealership and we r one of the only dealers in our area (that I'm aware of) that sells for MSRP and sometimes below it.
Ordered a new RAV4 in June. Just picked it up Tuesday. There was no way I was going to buy a used one for more money than a new one. Fortunately I found a dealer that kept to MSRP
I bought my 2017 Toyota Camry used. Just before covid hit and the price went up. Plus I bought it at the end of the month so I grabbed a nice bargain and some presents from Toyota pretty awesome
We’ve ordered and purchased a new 22 Mazda 3 S (lower level trim) at MSRP $23,115 before taxes and no dealer add ons, car has a great deal of tech for a low level trim package, we shopped for a used car although market is a train wreck, THERE’S DEALERS OUT THERE THAT WILL SELL AT MSRP, AFTER WE DECIDED WHAT WE WANTED I CALLED ALMOST EVERY DEALER IN TWO STATES AND FOUND ONE TO PLACE ORDER AND SELL AT MSRP, AND WE DECLINED EVERYTHING THEY WAS SELLING IN THE FINANCE OFFICE, AND THEY WAS VERY RESPECTFUL TO US, (NO STOMPING THERE FEET AND POUTING) the whole process was around 100 days from order to delivery
One of my daughters just bought a 2022 Sienna XLE AWD brand new for MSRP. There are dealers that sell for MSRP, just look around. It was less money than a used Sienna. My other daughter bought a new 2021 RAV4 Hybrid XLE for MSRP while the same exact one she bought was for sale at the dealer for $5k more and it was a 2019 model with 20k miles on it! In other words, if you can wait for a new car, do it!
Hi, I have been working on vehicles since about 1962 and owned an automotive air conditioning and radiator repair shop from 1973 to 2002. I drive a 2000 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 5.3L 4WD extended cab truck with 105,000 miles and my wife drives a 2015 Toyota Camry with 44,000 miles. I was ready to buy a new truck, even moved money for the purchase but the local GM dealers didn't have a new truck like mine because of computer chip shortage. So I decided to wait and now after hearing about car dealers charging over MSRP, I will wait until the market stabilizes. .
And don't forget the mandatory "accessory" add-ons if you buy new in the Southeast Toyota Dealer network - those pesky port add-ons that get added to the Mulroney. That is before the extra ADM they've been charging lately. Southeast Toyota dealers have been screwing customers for decades.
It’s very predatory, with lots of other brands some of these “add-on” already included in certain trims.
Those are put in at the port in Jacksonville, after the vehicle is manufactured. If you are buying an incoming unit, the dealership can specify what gets put on. They are not mandatory. The trick is finding a dealer that has something coming in that you want, and will order it the way you want. Doral Toyota did that for us. They also ignored the $10,000 “market adjustment” SET put on a supplemental Munroney when our Tacoma came in.
I understand the advice. Here’s the problem this could change anytime. Apparently the auto loan bubble is bursting and the presumption is that many will walk from their loans/cars and if that happens prices may drop like a rock.
That said, if I had the money I’d still take a 2019 tundra over the new ones. Gas mileage is beyond horrible but that thing will last forever. The new hybrids will probably be ok but only time will tell.
And new vehicles come with a high monthly note which is money some people just don't have so used seem to fit the pocket book better!
I bought my wife a new 4Runner Pro (Lime Rush) in February this year.
We bought it at Capitol Toyota in Chattanooga. We paid MSRP. None of the other dealers in the area (Murfreesboro or Cookeville) would sell for MSRP.
I say Honda is the best value. I’m a four time buyer and have been consistently pleased.
bought my 2023 4runner today, out the door for 1500 over msrp. actual purchase price was below. im very happy and needed a new vehicle.
Very timely video - I've been shopping used RAV4's and sure enough, a 2 year-old with 30k-40k miles is over the Monroney for a brand new one. It's rediculous!
Toyota is a great brand. And many (hybrid Sienna, Highlander Hybrid and Highlander, Sequoia) are made in Princeton, Indiana.
I was thinking about buying a new Sequoia or a Tundra and the prices are ridiculous. Many dealers are charging $5k-$10k over msrp and buyers can't even get the exact options that they want. We're limited to whatever the dealers are allocated and on top of that, there's a waiting list. No thanks!
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A saleswoman told me 17000 for a 2010 is 250
I was still laughing when I walked out the door 🤣
I prefer used because you have a better chance at a car without cylinder disable, auto start/stop, turbo and other fuel/emissions saving gimmicks that do better at shortening the lifespan of a car.
Gee all these storm floods here in Fla and around the globe - have destroyed many vehicles. I hope - everyone can find replacement s.
I've ordered my new donkey , also doubles as lawnmower. Ultra reliable
lol your dog in the background tripped me up. It looked like it was a big dig on the floor, but it’s a small dog on a desk!
My daughter just bought a 2012 gas highlander. I'm embarrassed to say how much she had to pay for a ten year old Toyota. At least it's a limited edition that looks brand new inside & out. 🙄
Got a Toyota commercial when I clicked
Yep, bought a 2019 TRD Pro Tacoma. Price 51K with 4K markup. 39,500 miles. But my Frontier blew a heater core and I wasn't fixing that, just got momma a better truck. Im not a victim, I knew what I was getting into. They gave me 12K on the Frontier and didn't even know the heater core blew and a wheel hub was bad. (2017 VS 153k miles)
Damn man. I bought my 21 TRD pro Tundra brand new for $51k OTD with 100k bumper to bumper.
You can get new vehicles at msrp in Kentucky.
Maaaan I just bought a 2015 Corolla S a couple months ago 😩 Love it though, and my old car was literally falling apart, and I didn’t have a lot of other options
Yes you do, Walk Leave early.
@@Mr.Atlanta850 yea naw
*Toyotas Are The Best There's No Arguing That*
- Scotty Kilmer
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But the 2021 & newer Tacomas are made in Mexico. Steer clear. All 4Runners are still made in Japan, though.
I wouldn't buy another Toyota even if Scotty Kilmer told me to.
There garbage I see new ones burning oil at 30k miles sometimes sooner Scotty is just a Toyota fanboy
The new Tacomas are made in Mexico but all 4Runners are still made in Japn.
I'll keep driving and fixing the cars I have.. cars are too expensive and those payments seem like they hit every 15 days
I knew this was the case earlier this year but with the fed raising interest rates, and another raise coming Nov 2, used car prices are actually starting to come back down. I'm even witnessing this with Toyotas. EDIT: Wait till the end of the year to buy if you can; you'll have more bargining power.
I am waiting for car recession to get my Lexus. Since a majority of people finance the IR is bound to lower prices like the stock market.
@@MR3DDev What's "IR?"
@@kathykaura7219 Interest rate
@@MR3DDev Yea, I'm waiting on a Tacoma or 4Runner myself. New Tacomas are all made in Mexico so I'll be getting a used one, but 4Runners have always been made in Japan.
@@kathykaura7219 Kinda why I am looking for a Lexus, they all made in Japan, hopefully I can get a decent used IS350
Not to mention Toyota has this ridiculous 10k mile oil change thing going on. There's a good chance a used Toyota will not last as long compared to buying new and changing oil every 5k.
I agree. 5k is my oil change interval. Any more is too long.
Why not let someone else put the first 100,000 miles on it and save up to $1000........
I came to the same conclusion after looking at the used ones for sale.
🤣 OMG the DOG!!!!
oh boy, you are in for a roasting from the Toyota Fan Club who think that the TOYOTA badge on the grill mean it was hand assembled by God Himself
I’m curious to if you watched the video or just commented on the title. He didn’t say anything that didn’t make sense although the title may have been a bit baity. Toyotas are pretty good cars though, no denying that.
The used cars don’t really cost more than the new ones once you factor in dealer markup and or wait time. Used- you get right now. New- you’ll have to wait and even then you’ll probably have to pay extra dealer markup. It all comes down to convenience.
Non hybrid toyota can be had at msrp everywhere on the west coast now
I just bought a new V8 Camaro at Msrp and I didn’t wait. The dealer got it in and asked if I wanted it
Depends on the dealer of course. I have a gas RAV4 on order. I’m paying MSRP. Other dealers wanted $2000-$5000 markup.
Yea crazy, was checking out used prices for like 5-10 years old 4runners, and thought there's no point of buying used , plus less miles and wear on the vehicle when new so why not
Dealers have only test drive cars left in lot.
what about an avalon touring I'm actually making a deal on 1 is a 2021 with 11,000 mi for $38,000
It was a 4 month wait, but was able to get a new RAV4 XLE Premium all weather package for WAY less than all the gross used ones I was seeing out there. 😂 Like $6k less. Plus I found ONE dealership in my general area that did not require a deposit, nor charge “market adjustment” over MSRP. The others were all $3-5k over MSRP. It’s crazy times, but there are still good dealership owners out there… just have to find them. And of course, if you’re able to wait, do. It’s worth it.
I got the same thing!
Forget used cars I will never ever want to buy a used car not just because it cost more you don’t know what issues it has. For the price just get it new
Yep used is to big of a gamble
I bought a 2022 Toyota Avalon XLE at MSRP and the dealer also gave me a thousand dollars rebate
Sure I would like a new F150 but I'll hold on to my 2018 for a couple more years. Prices are stupid right now
Bought my hybrid rav4 from a dealership at a msrp. Dealership was honest for once. The one by my house 2500 more for convenience fee.
I just bought my third new car this year, got good money on my trades
Who drives 0 to 60 in a mini van have you Seen how dangerous mini van drivers are soccer moms and there husbands are dangerous
Definitely I almost got hit by a crazy family because I wasn’t moving over I would have hit a caddy and I’m not doing that
@@chekiacermack4518 yikes there some crazies out there
But also avoid buying right now the new redesigned model, manufactures are so far behind quality is taking a hit including Tesla.
I was lucky . Got a 2021 new car at MSRP and zero interest for 3 years
Call up a GM dealer and ask what the pre-order price is on a 2023 Corvette.. 😳
Ridiculous. I’ve purchased both a used Tundra and a used 4Runner. Got great deals after shopping carefully. Best vehicles ive ever owned.
Glad I bought my 15 Golf TDI. Gets 50+ mpg. Was like new 20k was sitting for a couple of years after the buy back. And best of all I got an 11 year (from in service date) and 162k warranty. Had the O2 sensor replaced. Free. Man and cuz everyone was scared I got it for 14,300. Unreal deal now. They're still available but a lot more but you still get the warranty as it's transferrable.
Went to this toyota dealership looking for highlander msrp 39.6 this lady talking about 44k I started laughing out loud ..just walked out don't even waste time talking to this nut jobs
Even other brands has these issues.
A lot of people want to buy my V8 2021 Tundra!
Your talking about a few year old Used vehicles 2000 year 4runners in great condition are selling for 11 grand to 20 grand Used the vehicles you talked about aren't that much Used compared to 20 year old plus toyotas
Buy a short milage car
Thank you! It is very informative.
Just walk away people.
No. Buy my used Toyota, so I can buy another one brand new!
In my country, there's a running joke because of ads of people selling their 1995 corolla for more than $5000 😂
Lexus near me is selling their RX at MSRP. Really tempting. 😂
I was about to buy a Toyota but after reading this video's title I decided not to. No questions asked.
Avoid buying anything.
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WALK.
Dude. Do you ever go outside and look at a car lot inventory? Don’t know where you live but in a North Texas Toyota show room…non, notta, nothing…so yeah, used cars are sky high if you want another car/truck.
Yes I do.
Go to Family Toyota Arlington
I saw a used Sienna for $69k in Chicagoland.
Damn....
Wow! So much money….
I live in the area. Car prices are stupid. Used prices/ new prices.... all stupid high. This can't last for much longer(I hope). Dealers here are just trying to get all their money before the bottom falls out.
Thank your for your advise
Keep your old car ,that's the answer
I had to buy a used Toyota they weren’t taking any orders and the ones they had on the lot were way over MSRP and out of my budget
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Except that Toyota just cut production for Oct, Nov by another 100,000 vehicles. Wait lists here are 18 months out. Good luck on buying new and in stock.
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Bought my 21 tundra in late 2020 for a smoking deal. Wonder what theyd pay me foe it now
the problem with the new ones is anything built after the covid mess is plagued with problems so everyone wants a used vehicle built before 2020 and are willing to pay for it
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I want a Ram 1500!
Dealership here is selling 2020 4runner trd pro with 30k miles for 60k. Wtf. Lol
I just paid $1500 over for a new 2022 Tacoma TRD Off-road 4x4 here in AZ
Attention: The chip shortage is over. A chip glut is coming !
Toyota has a past reputation for excellent quality control. However, I've heard about recent waste gate issues with the turbos on the V6 mated to the Tundra, which leads to question if the quality is waning a little. With staffing shortages in the USA and other countries, one would expect some defects to come from most vehicles manufactured in 2021 and 2022. Most manufacturers might cut a few corners when demand outweighs supply. Just saying, perhaps customers expect quality short comings with these newer models. I'm not sure I agree it's smarter to buy anything, vehicle or appliance brand new, given the current status of our supply chain. I'm keeping what I have. 2013 Toyota Tundra. Very reliable, and very powerful, time tested 5.7 liter at 382 horse power with 401 lbs of torque. Gas mileage is low, but that's one of the most reliable gasoline engines ever built, and no one could argue to the contrary.
Just bought msrp. Demand must be down.
Never, ever buy any Toyota, because their handling is poor.
beCaUsE tHeIr hAnDlInG iS pOoR...you know anything about 4runner or toyota enthusiasts? you think any of them care? they want reliability.
Midwest Toyota dealers don’t have any new cars. I will stay with my 2015 highlander with 180,000 miles.
I got my 23 Santa Cruz night for msrp. I guess I got really lucky
Good luck with the engine.
@@mudpuddle2658 can't be any worse than the pos ecoboost 4 cylinder's that ford uses in the maverick and other vehicles. at least the hyundai's has dual injection and won't have to worry about the valves getting coated in carbon. 10 yr 100k warranty on the engine is better than fords 3/36k mile warranty.
@@1976axerhand True dat. Fords suck, direct injection sucks too.
Screw that. I'm not overpaying 10-20k over sticker for a new car. I'm getting a beater KIA till this crap blows over in a couple of years. I wouldn't buy anything right now if i didn't have to.
Ppl out here saving thousands while renting a 2 bedroom apt for $2500 with debt, bills, loans they can't keep up with. Lol
I will stick with all of my 23 to 25 year old Toyota's Because of all the issues with chips and parts for new Toyotas and 20 plus year old Toyota are now sky rocketing in there worth because of the chip shortage and part issues my 1997 4runner is worth 54 grand From My appraiser because of the issues with parts for anything newer
I paid 2% UNDER MSRP. I ordered a highly in-demand EV. Waited 9 months. You all are impatient suckers paying 5 grand+ ADM for vehicles.
Buy used Toyotas as engines have changed to turbo and no one knows how long they will last.
That is a thought about those turbos. And stop and go switches. I bought a new 2021 Acura crossover from a friend who then wanted a bit larger SUV had 1,800 mi I turn off the stop and go every time I get in. Our Toyota van we still have has 175, 000. Mi. Still runs great. Kid down the street bought one same year 315,000 mi still ran.
Bro! Those calves, though! You pull tractors with those????