My brother in law got a Hyundai palisade right after we got our Honda pilot. I was so jealous when he did bc it was so much nicer than our pilot. 50k miles later… our pilot requires oil changes and gas. The palisade on the other hand has been quite the story (fuel pump replacement, windows leaking water, engine codes, you name it).
What years do you both have? We are looking for a new vehicle and we are torn between the 2023/2024 Pilot and 2023/2024 Palisade. I'm liking the new Pilot a bit more with the removal center seat in the 2nd row and I'm not really a fancy person per se, so I prefer practicality more.
My 2005 Honda Accord had 323k miles when I sold it and it was running great, no major issues the only two things I ever replaced was the starter and power steering pump.
I've got a Kia Forte GT. Although I haven't had a single problem with it, I also know it's a 2 to 3 month wait at both of our local Kia dealerships to get a service appointment because they're swapping so many engines and transmissions under warranty. So even though I've got a great warranty on paper, it would be totally unusable if anything were to happen - I'd be out a car with no loaner for potentially months.
@dhrudry1 not really. Cx-90 starts at 40k and tops out around 60k. The grand highlander starts 43k and tops out at 58k. Not much difference there. Sure mazda is trying to emerge as a luxury brand but its not there yet.
Our 2021 Telluride has been a disaster. The fuel pump, alternator, and water pump have all been replaced over the past year. It currently has approximately 40,000 miles on it. I’ll never buy another KIA.
We bought a 2020 KIA Soul for my son. Have been multiple recalls and the engine replaced in 2022. Been to the dealer more times than our 2012 Acura TL and 2007 Honda Odyssey combined. First and last KIA we will ever own too. Fooled us once….
Had a Hyundai Palisade from new to 57000 miles. Not a thing went wrong with it, except the cooled seats button in the second row getting stuck. It was replaced under warranty.
The Mazda CX-90 is an absolutely gorgeous vehicle inside and out. And although new, Mazda SUVs have fairly good reliability, crash ratings and resale value. Should have been included! I think it would have faired well in this comparison!
I am sure all of these SUVs are very good. We just purchase a 24 VW Atlas. We owned the first gen Atlas for 7 years now and no issues with it. It fits the budget and offers comfortable space for a family of 5 with stuff😊
@barbz_zayne we were really happy with it. You maybe regret a large SUV if you come from a Minivan because of the sliding doors. The Atlas doesn't seem to be really fast of the line. All of that was no problem for us. The practical solutions, space and safety was great. We also had all services included for 60k miles
I think the viewers would benefit if you guys talk about safety too. I'm not particularly attached to any brand but I'm always interested in safety ratings and features.
@hondajohn6948 not all viewers are aware of iihs... I was talking to some people this weekend, and they said they never even thought about it. But as I showed them the crash tests, they definitely were concerned and wanted to see what was the safest cars available.
The CX90 and Atlas definitely should of been there besides the explorer but Traverse and Acadia new generations aren’t out yet. Grand Cherokee L is too expensive for what it is. Most people don’t know that the Ascent exists. The Durango is old and may not be around in 2024.
@@mbenton6 @PsychicMedium4747 0 seconds ago Acura competes with lexus, audi, mercedes, bmw...its higher than mazda. Mazda competes with mainstream..its NOT a luxury brand smh
Acura competes with lexus, audi, mercedes, bmw...its higher than mazda. Mazda competes with mainstream..its NOT a luxury brand smh @@chrisshinakadjredikulus7898
I’ll tell you Gv80 x5 cx90 cayenne are the best Worst luxury SUVs are the Lexus RX TX GX LX. I’d even rank the qx60 MDX xt6 much higher than either of these
No question really. The Honda Pilot is top of the 3 row SUV line. Hyundai and Kia make attractive full featured cars at a good price, but reliability and resale value are rock bottom.
Bought my 2020 Telluride loaded for $48500 new, about to sell it for $37500 4.5 years later with 65000 miles. Never had that good of a resale ever actually. My Stinger didn't fare nearly as well though, about 42% drop in 5 years/50000 miles. Pretty par for the course there.
@@RealElectechthats only because you bought it before chip crises and are reselling after and when dealers should be tried for some of their practices that continued to drive prices up.
KBB, we've been hearing about the same six of these old contenders and similar outcomes from the last few years. What made you overlook the stylish and powerful Mazda CX-90, the reliable and practical Subaru Ascent? Oh wait, there's even the German VW Atlas, and the renewed Jeep Grand Cherokee. Lets try to make the contender list a bit comprehensive next time.
Is a shame only top trims are shown and when compared a base trim to a top trim, most of the times is a world of a difference. Like.the Pilot, that center seat storage is only for the top trim or the massaging seats of the Pallisade. I like base trims as tbey offer the smallest wheel possible and not those weak low profile tires. Also, the cx90 was excluded, and is a much better vehicle than the explorers.
that's interesting... i feel the same way about low profile tires..... not wanting them at all. rougher ride. pricier tires. definitely not what i would want. you're one of the few that have made that comment.
Nissan Pathfinder for me. Probably the best off-roader of the bunch and the N/A VQ engine is unbreakable and a strong automatic transmission is a winner.
The Ford Explorer sells over 200k units annually, consistently - The Subaru Ascent is a low volume vehicle in the segment like the Mazda CX-9/CX-90 No reason to compare vehicles that no one really buys.
Who wins the competition if you’re looking for good leg room, head room in 3rd row between pilot , g highlander and telluride? Also interior fabric quality between these three?
1:31 not even the 2023 Ford Explorer comes with Sync 4. The Explorer is currently stuck with Sync 3 which works great but it doesn’t come with wireless CarPlay. Only wired.
I have test drove several of these because I am looking to replace my 2019 Honda Pilot.The upgrades to the pilot as far as ride,steering,power are noticeable.There are no 2024 pilots to be purchased.Parts and service are becoming very hard to get.
Isn't the Jeep Grand Cherokee L a Midsize SUV along with the Dodge Durango ? Seem every time you have a Midsize SUV comparison you seem to leave them out of the fray.
@@DeadAir21 Its around for '24, dated but still competes well due to excellent chassis, excellent 3rd row room, the best tow rating and available V8 power!
@@ericbryant796 V8 power, for now. It’s only a matter of time before they axe it. But you can get better or comparable legroom not to mention way better fuel economy in others in the segment. Dodge needs to either make a new generation or make something new altogether to get it in people’s minds again. Hell KBB hasn’t reviewed one since 2011.
@@DeadAir21 Depends on a buyers priorities - The Durango is a "niche" player just like the Mazda CX-9/CX-90 (although the Durango generally outsells it by a few thousand units annually) - It's one of the quickest even with the standard V6, actually has real towing ability, it has comparable legroom and modern tech to many of the vehicles here despite its overall age (just being fair), but it's known to be a very masculine vehicle so it's a typecasted option which keeps its volume on the low side, not to mention its largely negative brand perception with some consumers... But it's still a viable option nonetheless.
This review is pretty lame. There are like 4-5 additional vehicles that would qualify that were left out. And also saying that they Pallisade had a confusing push button gear shifter while not saying anything about the Pilot, which also has a push button shifter, right before it is interesting.
Sometimes we only have certain options when it comes to what's in the local fleet. There wasn't a CX-90 available. But we've got a review up if you want to check that out.
What’s with the stupid 3 row seat obsession. There are 3.13 people in the average family in the USA. The average family size has declined from 3.8 in 1940 to 3.1 by 2021. Yet car reviewers/manufacturers insist on having a 3rd row in crossover; and calling it a “family holler" (BTW - the real meaning of crossover is - glorified minivan). How many families actually have 7-8 people in them? Whose family are they driving around? Not to mention that most of the 3rd row seats are completely uncomfortable, difficult to get to and kill your cargo capacity. Plus they add weight to the vehicle. I’ve seen reviews of vehicles like the Honda Passport, where reviewers are complaining about not having a 3rd row seat. I see that as a benefit!!! Look if you need 7-8 seaters, buy a minivan, trust me these 3 row crossovers aren’t any cooler! At least a minivan is comfortable for all passengers; including your exceptional 5 child family…lol
I can hardly agree with kbb this time on just looking at "luxury" and defining the Korean vehicle the "best". How many years have these two vehicles been on the market? How did it perform on the iihs updated test? Every time I see it fail miserably on the updated test, I have a stronger belief that these Korean auto makers are not making a vehicle, rather they are making a gadget that passes a test that looks like a car. It truly is a rush to put any new vehicle on the top.
Not even a consideration of the new CX90 despite the new architecture, new engine, and premium interior? I stopped watching the second I realized that you guys didn’t include it.
The space you need going to costco ot hime depot. Maybe baby stroller? I have a family of 5 then my extended family? 2 roll are get for couples without kids?
It's actually a pretty capable truck, much more so than he previous generation these days. They've swapped out the CVT for a 9-speed automatic and it's much better.
Yeah, Hyundai-Kia! #1. GM, #2. Toyota, #3. Ford, #4. Hyundai-Kia 👏👏👏, #5. Stellantis, #6. Honda; USA sales rankings. Hyundai-Kia doubled sales in only 20 years. Only a few hundred thousand units behind Toyota. Hyundai-Kia will surpass Toyota within 3 years to become #1 import in the USA!!
Is there a Kia kickback? Palisade and Telluride should be a tie in every comparison unless you're including the reviewer's preference of style. My wife and I have our second palisade and Telluride 2023 models, still zero difference except the power seats in the Palisade's third row. Honestly without looking the only way I know which one I'm in is when I reach for the shifter. Which probably should be a deduction for the Kia as this is extremely outdated and will be gone in a few years. (Hard to let go sometimes) Got to feel bad for anyone with a new car that has a laundry list of issues. It's no comfort, but it happens in every brand and every model regardless of price. When it happens to you though you will absolutely campaign against that brand or model. For a really fun time you should experience it with the big luxury brands, yikes!
I'd like two vehicles.. 1. a well built quiet, fast, sleek sedan with rwd that has big comfortable seats and can cruise at least 500 miles on a highway at 75mph without stopping for fuel. i don't want any electronics, no stupid suicidal lane assist, or blind spot monitoring that causes limp mode from loud music, or radar cruise control that mistakes overpasses for traffic.. or huge pillars and no glass.. 2. i want a cheap weekend car with a soft top, manual transmission, rear wheel drive, and room enough for two 6ft+ tall passengers..
IMO the pathfinder and Nissan in general, often gets overlooked by shoppers because the brand lacks identity in the market. Most people know Toyota and Honda are proven reliability Hyundai and Kia offers the most tech and features for less Mazda upscale mainstream Nissan doesn’t have an identity and has been been propped up by car rental companies.
So, KBB forget to check car recalls: Explorer 5 recalls, Pathfinder 1 recall, Highlander 1 recall, Pilot 0 recalls, Palisade 3 recalls, Telluride 2 recalls, for all 2023 models, now do you think top 2 are still safe??
@@asdfgoogle So car catching fire and need to park outside to save your house is not an issue for you then what is? Korean cars have too many serious issues, they are not worth the hype and over MSRP values, they are upside down asap.
@@GARENV I bought a 2000 GMC Sierra in like 2015. Turned out there was an open recall on it. Took it to the dealership and they swapped out the cable on the tailgate or whatever it was.
So the American automakers exited the passenger sedan markets to focus on SUVs and trucks; and now they can't even compete in the SUV segment! And the workers are on strike for more money? Good luck before they all go out of business!
The Ford Explorer is here and consistently sells over 200k units annually - The current Chevy Traverse outsells literally half the vehicles here and the redesigned model has recently been shown online - The Jeep Grand Cherokee also consistently outsells MORE than half the vehicles here and nearly matches the Toyota Highlander which would make it the 2nd best seller in the segment - KBB simply didn't include them, that doesn't mean they aren't competitive or don't sell well.
I have a gv70, and their service department are so busy with repairs. You need 4 months booking to get a loaner. That tells you how many issues with their product are. Honda on the other end, better car. I had a v6 and drove 70 miles in traffic and highway speed.. nothing happened. But after my lease was up, i turn it in.. that happened with a valvoline quick oil change trainee forgot to tighten the oil filter. 2021 model honda v6❤.. it's a tank... Genesis service department is not a luxury brand yet. Maybe after 10 years later, when they are caught with all their car repairs. That is why they offer 10 year warranty .. it not ,nobody's will buy them..
My brother in law got a Hyundai palisade right after we got our Honda pilot. I was so jealous when he did bc it was so much nicer than our pilot. 50k miles later… our pilot requires oil changes and gas. The palisade on the other hand has been quite the story (fuel pump replacement, windows leaking water, engine codes, you name it).
Ahhh the hyundai/kia experience
What years do you both have?
We are looking for a new vehicle and we are torn between the 2023/2024 Pilot and 2023/2024 Palisade. I'm liking the new Pilot a bit more with the removal center seat in the 2nd row and I'm not really a fancy person per se, so I prefer practicality more.
Honda fanboy lol. You n ur bro are full of S. My uncle owns a 19 Palisade and have not had a single issue with it since bought new .
My 2005 Honda Accord had 323k miles when I sold it and it was running great, no major issues the only two things I ever replaced was the starter and power steering pump.
I've got a Kia Forte GT. Although I haven't had a single problem with it, I also know it's a 2 to 3 month wait at both of our local Kia dealerships to get a service appointment because they're swapping so many engines and transmissions under warranty. So even though I've got a great warranty on paper, it would be totally unusable if anything were to happen - I'd be out a car with no loaner for potentially months.
Did Kbb forget to list this video? anyways they should have ditched the explorer and included the Mazda cx-90
different price point as it competes with BMW, MERC, LEXUS, ACURA
@dhrudry1 not really. Cx-90 starts at 40k and tops out around 60k. The grand highlander starts 43k and tops out at 58k. Not much difference there. Sure mazda is trying to emerge as a luxury brand but its not there yet.
They market as an upscale brand now
@@dhrudry1not really
@sportsMike87 it's not though
Can you guys do a mid size 2 row review? I think those are harder to find
Our 2021 Telluride has been a disaster. The fuel pump, alternator, and water pump have all been replaced over the past year. It currently has approximately 40,000 miles on it. I’ll never buy another KIA.
On the bright side now you have lots of new parts in the car all for free.
Kias are trash 🗑️
We bought a 2020 KIA Soul for my son. Have been multiple recalls and the engine replaced in 2022. Been to the dealer more times than our 2012 Acura TL and 2007 Honda Odyssey combined. First and last KIA we will ever own too. Fooled us once….
@@CMUBruinthe soul had been under recalls…next time do your research. Should’ve bought him a 2020 sonata
Tellurides have generally been reliable. Haven’t seen many come in our dealer.
Had a Hyundai Palisade from new to 57000 miles. Not a thing went wrong with it, except the cooled seats button in the second row getting stuck. It was replaced under warranty.
Is it burning oil? I hope not
@@naveenthemachine not at all. Oil change to oil change nothing added
@@florinvid ok so nothing major. At least the cars running strong
@@naveenthemachineBurning oil happens only for the 1st model year, 2020.
@@rainfallseattle if you push beyond 10k miles yes. If you do 5k or 12 months you won’t have this problem
The Mazda CX-90 didn't make the cut? Or was one not available for your comparison?
Probably the latter
price point is different
@@dhrudry1 nah, I don't think so. The CX-90 has trims in the 45K-50K range.
They market their brand as upscale now
@@sportsMike87but it’s still a mainline brand. Probably didn’t have a long term tester
The Mazda CX-90 is an absolutely gorgeous vehicle inside and out. And although new, Mazda SUVs have fairly good reliability, crash ratings and resale value. Should have been included! I think it would have faired well in this comparison!
Agreed. I own one.
I agree but it would not have faired well...namely 3rd row space.
So true. I am driving my 3rd Mazda and all have been trouble free and they all drove as good as any BMW or Audi but with Toyota reliability.
Where’s the CX-90? KBB dropped the ball here.
Agree. These are not comprehensive comparisons video if no Mazda CX-90.
I am sure all of these SUVs are very good. We just purchase a 24 VW Atlas. We owned the first gen Atlas for 7 years now and no issues with it. It fits the budget and offers comfortable space for a family of 5 with stuff😊
we are also looking into an Atlas, what were some things you didn't like about your first one?
@barbz_zayne we were really happy with it. You maybe regret a large SUV if you come from a Minivan because of the sliding doors. The Atlas doesn't seem to be really fast of the line. All of that was no problem for us. The practical solutions, space and safety was great. We also had all services included for 60k miles
@@marckruse2181 coming from a CR-V we should be fine lol🤣
Going from a CR-V to an Atlas would be a huge step down in build quality.
@barbz_zayne you will love the quality. The Atlas has much better build quality, safety, power and space. Enjoy the new car.
I think the viewers would benefit if you guys talk about safety too. I'm not particularly attached to any brand but I'm always interested in safety ratings and features.
The iihs does that and its very objective, not much to discuss
Safety? Lol
@hondajohn6948 not all viewers are aware of iihs...
I was talking to some people this weekend, and they said they never even thought about it. But as I showed them the crash tests, they definitely were concerned and wanted to see what was the safest cars available.
I miss micah
I see Micah all the time on his channel so I don't miss him at all.
He gone no matter what KBB says.
go sub to his channel?
He has his own channel
I appreciate the no sarcasm review here. Micah can stay wherever he has gone.
Where is the Mazda cx90 and Chevrolet traverse and Volkswagen atlas and Jeep Grand Cherokee l and gmc acadia and Subaru Ascent and dodge Durango
The CX90 and Atlas definitely should of been there besides the explorer but
Traverse and Acadia new generations aren’t out yet.
Grand Cherokee L is too expensive for what it is.
Most people don’t know that the Ascent exists.
The Durango is old and may not be around in 2024.
Where is the Subaru Ascent? I kind of wanted to see how that stacked up against competition
Rear of Honda Pilot looks like the 2018 Ford everest.
You missed the Ascent, smaller on the outside but still bigger on the inside, best value in the segment.
Glad to see these comparisons back, great video Lyn!!
Yay Korea twins!! Thx...Nice voice over Lynn!
Where is the CX-90 at?
Cx90 more luxury.
@@mbenton6 And is not very roomy. I hop on one earlier today and it's tidier than my Mazda3!
@@camilogomezkeep2324 cx90 kills all of these vehicles in performance and fit and finish. Cx90 beats the MDX type S
Not in the fleet at the time we did this video. Check out our video about it though. We liked it.
@@mbenton6
@PsychicMedium4747
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Acura competes with lexus, audi, mercedes, bmw...its higher than mazda. Mazda competes with mainstream..its NOT a luxury brand smh
Yep, the Explorer is a Classic Lemon. No doubt.
How come no Atlas, cx90, Ascent?
All of these start in the $30k range, about $10k below those.
@@epbrown01 Not sure how, because Atlas base msrp is 37k and telluride is 35K
@@epbrown01 VW Atlas are pretty affordable in comparison
No CX-90?
different price point as it competes with BMW, MERC, LEXUS, ACURA
It's more than a CX9 but not in the Lexus, Infinitity, Mercedes, BMW range... maybe Acura would be more comparable
Not available at the time this video was made.
Acura competes with lexus, audi, mercedes, bmw...its higher than mazda. Mazda competes with mainstream..its NOT a luxury brand smh @@chrisshinakadjredikulus7898
Why do you guys not include Subaru Ascent?
Probably because the Acent doesn’t do anything particularly well. It’s definitely decent but a lot of people still don’t know it exists.
@DeadAir21 Says who?
Nothing new on it and it wasn't available in the fleet when the video was made.
Will love to see a comparison video for the midsize luxury segment.
I’ll tell you
Gv80 x5 cx90 cayenne are the best
Worst luxury SUVs are the Lexus RX TX GX LX. I’d even rank the qx60 MDX xt6 much higher than either of these
Luxury? People who can afford them just buys on look and don't care for other things.
No question really. The Honda Pilot is top of the 3 row SUV line.
Hyundai and Kia make attractive full featured cars at a good price, but reliability and resale value are rock bottom.
That may be true for their other models, but the Telluride and Palisade hold their value well since release
And they’re hard to find.
Bought my 2020 Telluride loaded for $48500 new, about to sell it for $37500 4.5 years later with 65000 miles. Never had that good of a resale ever actually. My Stinger didn't fare nearly as well though, about 42% drop in 5 years/50000 miles. Pretty par for the course there.
I've got a G70 and the depreciation looks similar to the stinger : /@@RealElectech
@@RealElectechthats only because you bought it before chip crises and are reselling after and when dealers should be tried for some of their practices that continued to drive prices up.
Telluride 🥰 🥰 🥰 I pick
KBB, we've been hearing about the same six of these old contenders and similar outcomes from the last few years.
What made you overlook the stylish and powerful Mazda CX-90, the reliable and practical Subaru Ascent? Oh wait, there's even the German VW Atlas, and the renewed Jeep Grand Cherokee. Lets try to make the contender list a bit comprehensive next time.
Is a shame only top trims are shown and when compared a base trim to a top trim, most of the times is a world of a difference.
Like.the Pilot, that center seat storage is only for the top trim or the massaging seats of the Pallisade.
I like base trims as tbey offer the smallest wheel possible and not those weak low profile tires.
Also, the cx90 was excluded, and is a much better vehicle than the explorers.
that's interesting... i feel the same way about low profile tires..... not wanting them at all. rougher ride. pricier tires. definitely not what i would want. you're one of the few that have made that comment.
Which one would you say is provides the most ride comfort?
@ Kelly Blue Book you forgot about the jeep grand Cherokee L it has 3 rows
We didn't forget about it. Sometimes some vehicles aren't available in the fleet for us to drive.
Nissan Pathfinder for me.
Probably the best off-roader of the bunch and the N/A VQ engine is unbreakable and a strong automatic transmission is a winner.
Fantastic video. PLEASE do the 2-row segment next! - Longtime subscriber - John
You got it. We'll add it to our list.
Please do a small size SUV comparison video! 🙏🏽
Great suggestion. We will.
How do you include the Explorer and not the Ascent?!
We compared what we could get in the fleet.
The Ford Explorer sells over 200k units annually, consistently - The Subaru Ascent is a low volume vehicle in the segment like the Mazda CX-9/CX-90 No reason to compare vehicles that no one really buys.
Who wins the competition if you’re looking for good leg room, head room in 3rd row between pilot , g highlander and telluride? Also interior fabric quality between these three?
1:31 not even the 2023 Ford Explorer comes with Sync 4. The Explorer is currently stuck with Sync 3 which works great but it doesn’t come with wireless CarPlay. Only wired.
We’re are the 3 top selling GM suvs?
Wish they had the Jeep grand Cherokee L in this comparison.
That’s because minimum requirement to be on list. The suv have to last more than 50,000k miles. 😂
No Atlas?
MDX?
I have test drove several of these because I am looking to replace my 2019 Honda Pilot.The upgrades to the pilot as far as ride,steering,power are noticeable.There are no 2024 pilots to be purchased.Parts and service are becoming very hard to get.
Can't wait for the 2024 Chevy Traverse 🎉
Isn't the Jeep Grand Cherokee L a Midsize SUV along with the Dodge Durango ? Seem every time you have a Midsize SUV comparison you seem to leave them out of the fray.
I don’t think anyone really knows if the Durango will be around in 2024. But it’s also because the Durango is so dated.
@@DeadAir21 Its around for '24, dated but still competes well due to excellent chassis, excellent 3rd row room, the best tow rating and available V8 power!
@@ericbryant796 V8 power, for now. It’s only a matter of time before they axe it. But you can get better or comparable legroom not to mention way better fuel economy in others in the segment. Dodge needs to either make a new generation or make something new altogether to get it in people’s minds again. Hell KBB hasn’t reviewed one since 2011.
Sometimes we have to go with what's available in the fleet. This is what we got!
@@DeadAir21 Depends on a buyers priorities - The Durango is a "niche" player just like the Mazda CX-9/CX-90 (although the Durango generally outsells it by a few thousand units annually) - It's one of the quickest even with the standard V6, actually has real towing ability, it has comparable legroom and modern tech to many of the vehicles here despite its overall age (just being fair), but it's known to be a very masculine vehicle so it's a typecasted option which keeps its volume on the low side, not to mention its largely negative brand perception with some consumers... But it's still a viable option nonetheless.
The Subaru Ascent should have been included in this comparison, as well as the Mazda CX-9/90 offerings.
Grand highlander vs Pilot vs others 😊
No '23 Traverse? Most spacious of the segment. Get one before they switch to the 4 cylinder.
How come the Mazda CX-9 was not on the list? It's a great car.
That ford Explorer needs to get an update all those other vehicles are up to date except the ford
Grand highlander is simply the best in class 👑👑
Not with that starting price just buy a van
@mrriandaa what?
@mrriandaa palisade is junk
I prefer the honda pilot
Just what I needed
Kia and Hyundai’s concentrate more on the bells and whistles 😂
They concentrate even money and awards
Kbb went downhill as soon as they let Micah go.
He was credited with the music. Are you sure they let him go or did he decide to leave?
@@dak85016I think he’s still there he’s just more behind the camera now probably to focus more on his own channel.
Uhhhh, are you kidding!? Micah's the boss now! 😄😄
We didn't let him go, we actually promoted him. But do tell, what's the problem with Lyn?
@@kbbNo problem with Lyn at all! She's fantastic.
People who drive cop color explorers ( grey or white in pa) with the steal rims are psycho lol
This review is pretty lame. There are like 4-5 additional vehicles that would qualify that were left out. And also saying that they Pallisade had a confusing push button gear shifter while not saying anything about the Pilot, which also has a push button shifter, right before it is interesting.
Please share which other vehicles you'd have like to seen included.
@@kbb The Dodge Durango, Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia/Buick Enclave (one of the three), Volkswagen Atlas, Subaru Ascent, Mazda CX-9
Its not that confusing, I have a 22 palisade and its really easy
@@ItIsBen I don't think either are confusing. @kbb does though.
I am just wondering why you did not do all third row SUVs even the luxury SUVs with this episode
Where is Subaru Ascent?
Right they missed It 🤦🤦🤦
not good enough to make the cut i guess
@@dhrudry1 these vehicles are peasants compared to Subaru 😂😂
Afterthought. Doesn't sell well
@@sportsMike87 in the Midwest they are everywhere, I own one
I have nothing but bad experience with Honda's transmission on the odyssey and pilot.
the mazda cx90 rides like a tank
Where's the VW Atlas?
Vw Atlas, Chevy Traverse and Mazda CX-90 were missing!
I wish the new Chevy Traverse/GMC Acadia could have been included but probably still too early in its production to get their hands on them.
They won’t go into production until early next year.
need to know why no Mazda CX-90.
Sometimes we only have certain options when it comes to what's in the local fleet. There wasn't a CX-90 available. But we've got a review up if you want to check that out.
What’s with the stupid 3 row seat obsession. There are 3.13 people in the average family in the USA. The average family size has declined from 3.8 in 1940 to 3.1 by 2021. Yet car reviewers/manufacturers insist on having a 3rd row in crossover; and calling it a “family holler" (BTW - the real meaning of crossover is - glorified minivan). How many families actually have 7-8 people in them? Whose family are they driving around? Not to mention that most of the 3rd row seats are completely uncomfortable, difficult to get to and kill your cargo capacity. Plus they add weight to the vehicle. I’ve seen reviews of vehicles like the Honda Passport, where reviewers are complaining about not having a 3rd row seat. I see that as a benefit!!! Look if you need 7-8 seaters, buy a minivan, trust me these 3 row crossovers aren’t any cooler! At least a minivan is comfortable for all passengers; including your exceptional 5 child family…lol
I'm really puzzled by all the praise the Telluride and Palaciad get. Both aren't attractive offerings in my personal opinion.
Beauty is in the eye...
Weren't these considered full sized SUVs??
Mazda cx90 ???
I can hardly agree with kbb this time on just looking at "luxury" and defining the Korean vehicle the "best". How many years have these two vehicles been on the market? How did it perform on the iihs updated test? Every time I see it fail miserably on the updated test, I have a stronger belief that these Korean auto makers are not making a vehicle, rather they are making a gadget that passes a test that looks like a car. It truly is a rush to put any new vehicle on the top.
Peanut butter n jealous
Macaphony and please 🙄
Interesting.
The Honda and Toyota will have Better resale value and be more reliable so 1 and 2
Wondering why the CX90 isn't included in this comparison
No Chevy Traverse or GMC Acadia, Volkswagen Atlas, Mazda CX90? Im okay with Jeep and Dodge missing, their products are not reliable.
They say the Nissan Pathfinder has better 3 row seating then the Kia Telluride
Nissan pathfinder best❤
Transmission buttons too confusing in the Palisade? Turn in your drivers license you shouldn’t be allowed on the road 🤪
Not even a consideration of the new CX90 despite the new architecture, new engine, and premium interior? I stopped watching the second I realized that you guys didn’t include it.
People actually trust Kelly blue book? 😂
The space you need going to costco ot hime depot. Maybe baby stroller?
I have a family of 5 then my extended family? 2 roll are get for couples without kids?
A sea of white, grey, brown...
It‘s crazy that these suv‘s are considered mid-size, these are big!
Nissan worth for money
waiting for subaru ascent redesign.
Honda pilot is the best
I didn't know NIssan still made the Pathfinder. I haven’t seen a new one in years.
It's actually a pretty capable truck, much more so than he previous generation these days. They've swapped out the CVT for a 9-speed automatic and it's much better.
I love the Pathfinder it's very attractive
the hyundai and kia dealership experience put them in the bottom tier, honestly
I test drove a Toyota highlander. Weak on power and poor ride.
Not including the Atlas in this? Immediately turned off.
Cx-90 is only a 24 model which is why I think it’s not on the list
Yeah, Hyundai-Kia!
#1. GM,
#2. Toyota,
#3. Ford,
#4. Hyundai-Kia 👏👏👏,
#5. Stellantis,
#6. Honda;
USA sales rankings.
Hyundai-Kia doubled sales in only 20 years. Only a few hundred thousand units behind Toyota. Hyundai-Kia will surpass Toyota within 3 years to become #1 import in the USA!!
Hyundai, Kia, Genesis!
Hyundai, Kia, Genesis!
Hyundai, Kia, Genesis!
10-year warranty or junk!
No to 5-year junk warranty!
Imo the Grand Highlander looks the best. Surprised it didn’t get placed higher.
Tbh the highlander is by far one of the ugliest cars I’ve seen in years, in my opinion
Expensive.
Is there a Kia kickback? Palisade and Telluride should be a tie in every comparison unless you're including the reviewer's preference of style. My wife and I have our second palisade and Telluride 2023 models, still zero difference except the power seats in the Palisade's third row. Honestly without looking the only way I know which one I'm in is when I reach for the shifter. Which probably should be a deduction for the Kia as this is extremely outdated and will be gone in a few years. (Hard to let go sometimes)
Got to feel bad for anyone with a new car that has a laundry list of issues. It's no comfort, but it happens in every brand and every model regardless of price. When it happens to you though you will absolutely campaign against that brand or model. For a really fun time you should experience it with the big luxury brands, yikes!
Gosh this lady need to stop doing reviews. We need micah and mike more!
And why is that?
Why? Because she's a woman?
Two Korean brands in 1, 2 position.. time sure has changed..
I'd like two vehicles..
1. a well built quiet, fast, sleek sedan with rwd that has big comfortable seats and can cruise at least 500 miles on a highway at 75mph without stopping for fuel. i don't want any electronics, no stupid suicidal lane assist, or blind spot monitoring that causes limp mode from loud music, or radar cruise control that mistakes overpasses for traffic.. or huge pillars and no glass..
2. i want a cheap weekend car with a soft top, manual transmission, rear wheel drive, and room enough for two 6ft+ tall passengers..
In my opinion, Nissan pathfinder is the best one out of the bunch, i would buy pathfiner over anyone of these all day long
IMO the pathfinder and Nissan in general, often gets overlooked by shoppers because the brand lacks identity in the market. Most people know
Toyota and Honda are proven reliability
Hyundai and Kia offers the most tech and features for less
Mazda upscale mainstream
Nissan doesn’t have an identity and has been been propped up by car rental companies.
I totally agree! The fact that the Nissan has a true automatic and not a CVT by Jatco speaks volumes.
We agree. It's a great option now that it's been updated. And the Rock Creek is very capable off-road if you choose to take it there.
Does have a lot of safety issues though. That seat In the back is annoying…
So, KBB forget to check car recalls: Explorer 5 recalls, Pathfinder 1 recall, Highlander 1 recall, Pilot 0 recalls, Palisade 3 recalls, Telluride 2 recalls, for all 2023 models, now do you think top 2 are still safe??
You'll find these days most every car gets recalled for some reason or another.
lol. Recalls aren't necessarily a justification to define something as "less safe". They can be, but rarely are they.
@@asdfgoogle So car catching fire and need to park outside to save your house is not an issue for you then what is? Korean cars have too many serious issues, they are not worth the hype and over MSRP values, they are upside down asap.
@@GARENV I bought a 2000 GMC Sierra in like 2015. Turned out there was an open recall on it. Took it to the dealership and they swapped out the cable on the tailgate or whatever it was.
Honda. Buy the Honda.
So the American automakers exited the passenger sedan markets to focus on SUVs and trucks; and now they can't even compete in the SUV segment! And the workers are on strike for more money? Good luck before they all go out of business!
The Ford Explorer is here and consistently sells over 200k units annually - The current Chevy Traverse outsells literally half the vehicles here and the redesigned model has recently been shown online - The Jeep Grand Cherokee also consistently outsells MORE than half the vehicles here and nearly matches the Toyota Highlander which would make it the 2nd best seller in the segment - KBB simply didn't include them, that doesn't mean they aren't competitive or don't sell well.
Where Micah? Where Mike ?
They're here.
@@kbb How come we hardly see them ? I just don't like the way Lyn reviews vehicles.
Do you even mention Kia engine problem? Of course no because it’s gonna happen a few years later!
I have a gv70, and their service department are so busy with repairs. You need 4 months booking to get a loaner. That tells you how many issues with their product are.
Honda on the other end, better car. I had a v6 and drove 70 miles in traffic and highway speed.. nothing happened. But after my lease was up, i turn it in.. that happened with a valvoline quick oil change trainee forgot to tighten the oil filter.
2021 model honda v6❤.. it's a tank...
Genesis service department is not a luxury brand yet.
Maybe after 10 years later, when they are caught with all their car repairs. That is why they offer 10 year warranty .. it not ,nobody's will buy them..
Why are Hyundai and Kia in all the best 3-row SUVs list? Great value packaging?
What?? No Mazda CX-90?? KBB fail… 😕