Don't Make This Terrible Mistake: Sherwin Williams Interior Paints Unveiled
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- Ever feel confused walking into a Sherwin Williams store. Have no fear, Jeremy will explain the good, the bad, and the ugly when it comes to what interior paints are offered. Your confusion will turn to clarity and you will be a paint buying ninja after watching this video.
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:45 Promar
1:30 Captivate
1:43 Eminence
1:54 Cashmere
2:15 Super Paint
2:55 Duration
3:44 Emerald
4:25 Emerald Designer Edition
4:53 Emerald Urethane Trim Enamel
5:13 Conclusion
Great video! I appreciate the reviews which makes my life much easier since I tend to over think these decisions.
Thanks for watching! I’m glad it was helpful. I’ve got lots more reviews on the way!
Wonderful video!!
Oh good! I’m glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching 😃
Loved it!
Thanks for watching!
This was Great! Thanks Man. We use and love Duration all day long.
You are most welcome! Duration is a solid performer 🫡
Don't they carry Opulence anymore?
Awesome Video
I’m glad you liked it!
As a painter contractor for over 40 years the pro mar line is the best paint on the market my opinion. I use the eggshell finish most colors touch up very well and has a very nice sheen.
ProMar is decent. ProMar ceiling paint is my current favorite ceiling paint, but I prefer Emerald for walls. It’s quite a different level than 200 or 400
Thanks for the reviews of each type of paint SW has in their line and their differences. Although, maybe you can answer this as both my husband and I are dumbfounded:
My husband and I are building a brand new house from the ground up (new Sheetrock and mud and a coat of Kilz primer and sealer) and we were gifted with a deep base Emerald paint in our master bath. However, the color we were gifted was too light of a color so we went down to our local SW to have them tint it to the color we wanted, which they did. So, my husband, who is a building contractor and has painted thousands of cabinets, walls, and trim over the course of his career painted the first coat and it looked awesome, however we still could see areas where we needed a second coat, so we decided to paint the entire master bath with a second coat. The second coat, which came out of the same gallon as the first, is where things got bad. Once it dried, it looked as though the entire bathroom had been dry rolled and looks awful and are forced to start all over. We are hoping just another gallon of paint of a different brand (like Glidden Premium or Behr Marquee) will work over the top and won’t have to prime again.
Both of us are dumbfounded as to why the second coat did this - do you guys have any insights as to why or how this could have happened?
Thanks
Hmmmm, here’s my best guess and I’m perfectly willing to be wrong about all of this because I haven’t seen your bathroom in person. That being said the color you went with originally was in a deep base but was too light of a shade. You had SW tint it darker which means they probably dumped a significant amount of tint into the can. There’s a good possibility that if you had them make you the darker color from the start, then they would’ve used the ultra deep base instead of the just the deep base for that color.
My guess is that for your second coat the tint in the paint started to separate which can happen with overtinted product. Thats likely why they finish looks weird.
On the sunny side of things you don’t need to prime anything to fix it. You are welcome to try another product, but if I were in your shoes I’d get that color in Emerald Matte in the Ultra Deep Base or perhaps even the emerald designer edition. That product also does well with darker colors.
Anyways, that’s my two cents. Again, I could be wrong, but there you go. Good luck with the rest of your project!
I’m a DIY guy that has used a few of these. I’m not a fan of Cashmere mostly because of durability, it will look shabby in short order. I too like Duration. I’ve only used Emerald Exterior, and it is great stuff. Finally I’ve used Emerald Urethane on cabinets and had great success, although I think I will give it a go on the next trim I do.
That’s a solid assessment good sir 🫡
@@SuperVassarBrothersthanks for explaining all the different paints. I will seek out the ceiling paint.
Thanks for the great content guys; always good to have some direction for an amateur painter like myself. I have a background in finished carpentry and guitar building, so my skills don’t exactly translate over to painting haha I did want to share my technique for removing those hi-hats and setting myself up for an easier re-install. Rather than removing the springs from the hi-hat cans themselves, and leaving the spring to hang, I like to leave the spring attached to the can, that way, when I re-install, I just push the spring up with the pliers, and attach to the can - I found that the hole is easier to get the spring seated properly, and I have more control by pushing up instead of pulling down - and if the spring slips, it doesn’t go flying haha Maybe I’m doing it wrong, but that’s my method if you wanna try it out! Oh, also, a 3M scuff pad, and a can of enamel spray paint goes a long way too - I just remove all cans, spray, and then reinstall for a super clean look that matches with the new paint, or can add a contrasting color, depending on what the customer wants. This can either be a small up-sale, or some extra value that the customer will love and only costs around half an hour of actual working time. Anyway, good luck on the channel, and thanks again!
Thanks for the tip about the hi-hats. We’ve messed around with a bunch of methods and unfortunately no all of the ho-hats are the same. Depending on their era of origin they all have different mechanisms. The new wafer LED lights can be weird too. Anyways, thanks for watching good luck with your work. There’s lots more content on the way. I’m in the process of building out a new studio, but there will be more videos next week. 🫡
@@SuperVassarBrothers Ahhh, I see. That makes sense. I don't have a ton of experience with recessed lighting hi-hats - only have worked with a few in the past. My extensive Hi-Hat experience involves the ones on a set of drums lol Thanks, will keep watching; keep up the great work and good luck on the continued success with your channel and business!
This video is awesome.
Can you do more videos regarding SW (great sayings and store simulation) but focusing just on wipe ability , cost, finishes and how they look on the walls , etc.
We are currently in production on a video testing for the most durable wall paints. It’s a lot of setup and testing but hopefully it’ll answer some of the questions you’re interested in. Thanks for watching!
I love your quick & straight to the point videos! Thank you… Can you do one to explain the differences between all the paint types, i.e. Matte vs Flat vs Silk vs Satin? I’d like to know which option would be the best for being able to spot clean high-traffic areas - like kids fingerprints, etc.
Check out this video I did a little while ago:
ruclips.net/video/DyKh80Yt9k0/видео.html
Also, we’re working on a video that will be testing the durability / wipe-ability of certain paints. That’ll probably come out on April. Thanks for watching!
The more gloss the better / easier to clean. Satin / Eggshell 99% of my clients choose those for walls . They are prwctically identical in sheen.
High traffic areas and places that need the walls scrubbing, use Duration Home or Emerald. They have better coverage and higher Titanium Oxide than the others. And they're made to take a beating. Use Emerald Urethane for trim and doors. And try the new Gallery series for cabinets. The catch with Gallery series is it has to be sprayed. But, it acts like a 2 part epoxy and cures out harder than the Emerald Urethane.
Typically, Satin is used throughout houses nowadays. Years ago, you'd have to use a higher sheen for better protection. But, because the paints have changed, you no longer need to do that. Check the charts in store to find exactly what you're looking for. They'll be more than willing to find the correct paint for the job.
Get a gallon of designer edition on blue blood and a gallon of the exact same color in any other product from SW or thr competition and you'll see a benefit to it.. Maybe not for full repaints but the hide/coverage on accent walls is insane.
I’ve only tried it once and it was with a dark blue. It performed quite well.
This was a great video for an interior wall painting novice like myself. I recently bought a house where every wall is painted a different color. Yeah I won't get into that. In the living room two walls are painted dark brown. I'm wondering if the Sherman Williams duration Matt in an off-white is going to cover that in one coat? Or if there's something I need to prime the wall with first. Thanks for all the great information in the video.
If you’re doing a major color shift then you’ll definitely be doing more than one coat. I’d recommend priming the walls that are previously painted a dark color. You can use the multi-purpose primer from SW or you can use fresh start from Benjamin Moore. We’ve had a lot of success with that. Also, when we paint we pretty much always do two coats. There’s a lot of reasons for that, but I’d recommend doing two top coats of your finish paint.
Great stuff as always Mr. Jeremy!
Have you tried SW Premium ceiling paint? If so what do you think? I just used it on a nightmare bedroom make over I’m STILL working on and it’s pretty nice I think and pretty bright white🤷🏻♂️
Only other paint I’ve used in a long time has been Behr ( not enough room to explain half the problems I’ve had with this project because of that being the underlying paint from 22 years ago, but let’s just say it doesn’t like to be re wet! It just lets go!!)
I’ve got the walls in oil based primer now because of it🤬
I know their stuff has gotten marginally better and their ceiling paint is ok but I won’t touch any of it anymore, I’ve had enough.
Which line from SW would you recommend for a flat wall paint for a bedroom? I get great pricing from my local SW ( the chick there digs me😉lol)
I don’t wanna get too crazy but want to use something that’s good, covers well, sticks well, and holds up. What’s your favorite?
Thanks!
I think I got you covered in your other comment 🫡
Any opinion on Sherwin Williams Solo for Trim and Doors? That is what the builder used in my new construction home.
It’s ok, but in my opinion, not as good as emerald urethane trim enamel.
Appreciate this video. Helps me avoid wasting money on bad products. I’ve had good luck with Emerald Matte. How does BM Regal Select compare to Duration and Emerald?
Dude, we were just using Regal Select Eggshell on the job today and they just reformulated it. I am not the biggest fan. In its current formulation it’s much trickier to work with than the old regal select, which is unfortunate because Regal Select eggshell use to be one of my favorite eggshells.
Duration matte is still our go to wall paint. It’s closer to an eggshell with its finish. Emerald matte is also great, but it’s actually a matte finish so much less shiny than duration matte.
@@SuperVassarBrothersHey man. odd question but in your opinion what is better: Duration matte for a bathroom or Benjamin Moore bath & spa for the bathroom wall
@@SuperVassarBrothers Will you do a video on the new Regal line in the different sheens? Regal has been my favorite product for years and now I'm worried they've messed it up.
@@chrisl1878 I prefer Duration matte. Bath and Spa is overpriced and trickier to work with. It’s prone to picture framing which is annoying for a product that’s that expensive.
@@Monarchski ugh, tell me about it. That video is in the works. We’re working the Regal Select eggshell right now and I’m less than pleased. Regal Select Eggshell use to be my favorite eggshell.
We moved into a new home and the builder used paint contractors that used Sherwin Williams paint. We need a small amount (a quart) for touch ups and were told that minimum size would be a gallon for I suppose the ProMar paint. Would using the Duration is the same color and sheen be a suitable paint or will it differ on the wall when compared to the ProMar? Thanks for the great video.
So you’ll definitely notice the touchups if you use duration and Promar was used before. It’s a good idea to get the exact same paint that was used. That being said, you will likely notice the touchups even if you use the same paint, but they will be the least noticeable. Touchups can be a big pain in the butt and we should probably make a video on that topic. Good luck!
Gotta cringe when people say touch up
The Emerald trim urethane is top notch. It dries hard like oil, but water cleanup. I dont think there is a better trim paint and it's the best for doors and cabinets too. As far as Emerald for walls, its all I use. Worth the extra money.
My thoughts exactly good sir 🫡
And takes forever to dry.
Advance cures harder, and cures more quickly. But it's much harder to work with
I sprayed miles of trim with pro classic and loved it. To each his own I guess.
I’m going to guess that it sprays better than it brushes on.
Pro classic is a very good product.
what's your recommendation for a paint to use on interior garage walls? High humidity & temperature fluctuations
So most people use regular interior wall paint and that works out fine. I typically use Emerald matte or satin and I haven't had any issues with any of the garages I've painted over the years.
Our builder used cashmere. Our main color was moth wing (kind of a darker beige) and even the builder couldn't do touch-ups on it -- it was awful. I can't tell you how many times we had them try to fix the issues during the build. They ended up repainting some walls entirely... and we just gave up in other spots (I can still see touchup in a hallway 6+ years later, ugh). does the duration/emerald have this problem? I'm really super hesitant to do anything Sherwin Williams after that disaster... but they have a (dark) color I think I want to use for an accent wall in my bedroom....
So, in general I try not to spit shade on work without seeing it. That being said I have a few thoughts. 1) I am not a big fan of cashmere and I never have been. I don’t like the finish, and it’s tricky to lay down correctly. 2) almost every paint brand has good and less good and then crappy paints. Cashmere is a less good product from Sherwin Williams. 3) my current go-to wall paint is Emerald Matte from Sherwin Williams. In its current formulation it’s an excellent product. 4) the finish quality of a paint job is a combination of product and how it was applied. Any product can be laid down poorly resulting in a shitty looking finish. 5) lastly, touchups are tricky. In general flat finishes touch up the best. The higher you go sheen wise the more likely you are to see the touchup. There are a few products being developed currently that are trying to address it, but a lot of that comes down to how the touchup was done by the painter. When we do touchups, we often end up painting the entire wall so that it actually looks uniform. I hope this was helpful 🤷♂️
@@SuperVassarBrothers thanks. It was flat. They originally sprayed it on. But when they rolled our stairwell trying to fix issues, we could see variation from roller and brush marks. I'd never had a paint act like that (and I have typically used Lowe's brand, lol}
The best looking paint on walls I think would be an eggshell finish. No matter what brand of paint you use, it always leaves a shiny spot when removing a dirt mark. I wish they could eliminate that problem.
Paints like ScuffX and Scuff Tuff have tried and are definitely more durable than typical wall paints.
Can you do a video on the promar lines?
I could do that in the future. The only product I use from the Promar line is the ceiling paint. It’s been quite some time since I’ve used 200 or 400.
- Do you find the Emerald Urethane trim in Satin finish to be especially glossy or pretty normal for satin ?
It’s a typical satin. I still prefer the emerald urethane in semi-gloss but to each his own.
You're hilarious. Thank you for this.
😄 thanks for watching!
I've actually had good results with the Eminence ceiling paint.... I always do 2 coats and it turns out well.... Customers love the bright white flat finish too.... What issues are you having with it? (I have not used the ProMar line for ceilings by the way, so please tell me why you prefer that line.) Thanks for the great videos! I also use Duration and Emerald about 90% of the time - love both!
In our experience Eminence is quite thin. We always do 2 coats as well, but the coverage isn’t anywhere close to Promar. It also splatters quite a bit more than Promar, from what I remember. None of the painters that I know use it. Word on the street is that Sherwin Williams is about to release a “premium” ceiling paint, so we’ll see how that one performs.
@@SuperVassarBrothers I would tend to agree that it is a bit thinner.... Thanks for your feedback.... I'll give the Pro Mar a try with my next ceiling job! Great channel.... Love your sense of humor too! :)
The emerald designer is for designer colors. The formula is different. Atleast that's what a rep told me. Had a customer pick a color that only could be created using the emerald designer
What do u recommend for kids,we have tried duration,pro classic and there staining and not washing off,help,I don’t know what paint brand to go with that will hold up to dirty prints,stains
We are in the process of testing several scuff-resistant paints, so I'll have a better answer for you in the near future. A lot of folks like Scuff-X from Benjamin Moore. It's a decent product and holds up pretty well. Even so, every paint has it's limits to wear and tear.
@@SuperVassarBrothers thank you for getting back to me,I haven’t been impressed with sw,just looking for another option,I will read reviews for the scuff x
So where does their extreme cover paint stack against the ones you have listed here?
I’ve never used that product so I’m not sure how good it is or where it stands in the line up. Price wise it seems close to super paint, but again, I have zero experience with it so I’m not sure if it’s good or bad 🤷♂️
So, absolute best SW suggestion for bathrooms?
Emerald matte for the ceiling and walls. Emerald urethane for the trim. That’s what we currently use
I’d like if you made a video discussing all the different primers!
I’ll put it on the list of future videos. There are sooooo many primers! In the mean time this might help you out:
ruclips.net/video/mEUZaXQpx2g/видео.html
Does Josh's Sherwin Williams take coupons?
Yes. He honors all coupons from any establishment including, but not limited to, Bennigan’s.
Alligatoring ? Do you man the ripples you get if you roll too much paint in one area or ???
Sorry, there’s a bunch of weird terms in painting for messing up. I believe I meant to say staircasing?? If I’m remembering correctly for this video I think I’m talking about when the roller marks look like a staircase as they go up a slanted ceiling.
Not sure what you mean, Not heard that terrm.@@SuperVassarBrothers
Where would you rank Solo with the trim paints
I don’t have enough experience with it to have an opinion. I don’t know of any professionals that use it either so I just have enough data to rank it. 🤷♂️
what is picture framing? Aligatoring?
Picture framing is when the cut-ins don’t blend in with the rolling which looks like the wall is a picture frame. Alligatoring is another way paint can fail, but I think in this video I may have meant to say stair stepping which is another version of the cut-ins not blending into the rolling.
The urethane trim enamel is the only reason I ever walk into a sherwin williams, otherwise its all Ben Moore. Ben moore beats the entire sherwin line up head to head but the urethane trim enamel beats Advance from Ben, especially if your brushing it.
It’s a solid product. A lot of crews (at least in my area) are having trouble with the new formulation of Regal Select, especially the eggshell. We won’t use it on our jobs. Hopefully they’ll fix the new formula cause I use to really like it. Emerald matte is our go-to wall paint right now.
agreed. Advance is oddly very difficult to work with if you're not used to it, but it cures MUCH harder and much faster. meanwhile, you can crack open a can of Emerald UTE and it applies exactly how you would expect. just needs to be left alone longer to get that fully cured hardness
Just found you and subscribed. Great video. Based on your recommendation I'm going to use Emerald Urethane Trim in satin on a small shiplap wall. Can you recommend a roller size and cover for the smoothest finish? Thanks!
If it’s a small wall then I’d go with 1/4 inch nap, Wooster Pro-Doo Z. The white woven kind will work well. Sherwin Williams also has a decent 1/4 inch white woven cover that’s their brand. You can get it in 4 inches or 9 depending on what you’re comfortable with.
Thanks for subscribing!
Damn, the Duration Matte is $80+ for a gallon. Benjamin Moore Regal Select is $72. Paint has gotten super expensive!
I’d recommend trying to get them on sale. If you can get them in the $50-$65 range then that’s a decent price.
I currently work for Sherwin Williams and have to say I’ve only heard good things about our Emerald Designer Series. The only issue I’ve heard is that it doesn’t have good coverage so two coats is required regardless of surface. The price is also an issue as it is $120-$130 per gallon depending on sheen. However, the paint is super durable and has the best moisture resistance that we can offer. It’s like normal Emerald paint but just a small step above it that makes sense.
I gotcha. I understand where it sits in the product line. I used it for a bathroom and it turned out quite well. I guess the big question is…is it worth the additional cost over regular emerald which is also dope. 🤷♂️
@@SuperVassarBrothers It’s only worth it if the customer asks for “the best of the best” and doesn’t necessarily care about price or anything. It’s also good to use if the walls in a room or area get hit or ran into a lot because it lays on so thicc, kinda adds that extra scuff and damage resistance. Normal emerald works just fine though and tbh the designer series is kinda just overkill.
@@SuperVassarBrothers i base my use of designer on if the square footage of the home is above 5000. 😉
@@phuhque6724For sure haha, our store is in a wealthy area so we sell a lot of emerald DE but many other stores around us don’t carry it in stock or have even seen a can of it before. A family friend of ours had her whole condo painted in it with an eg-shel sheen and it’s been holding up great for the past year or so.
Would you use emerald in bathrooms? I want to pick a paint for a rental that I can paint everything the walls and the ceilings.
I feel more confused. LOL Also in my HO sherwin williams also lost a customer with me.
Every paint manufacturer makes good and not so good products. Formulations also shift over time. Currently the majority of our interior loadout is all from Sherwin Williams.
Does Emerald Urethane Trim Enamel have long dry times like Ben Moore Advance? Is it cabinet worthy?
It does not have a long dry time. You can easily do multiple coats in a day and yes many folks use it for cabinets. Here's a link to a video where I compared those two products. ruclips.net/video/0kdWGKEhXXU/видео.html
You may find that interesting.
The emerald urethane in semi gloss is excellent dries faster then advance
N4N, but I’d gladly pay $120 a gallon for the Emerald Designer series paint IF it applied itself and showed me a flawless finish. No - I am not lazy, just not a professional painter (although I wish I was). I’m just was too picky and hard on myself.
Guess I’ll stick with the regular Emerald and Duration line and just say a prayer to the paint gods when I go at it.
A prayer to the gods of goo never hurt anyone.
I wouldn't recommend Duration S/G for trim/cabinets. Upgrade to ProClassic
Emerald Urethane trim enamel is my preferred trim paint nowadays
I’m repainting my oil base trim and would like to switch over to latex trim paint. Do I need to sand and prime or is there a latex paint that would stick to the oil base trim. Would emerald urethane work for this application?
I used painters edge plus in pure white on the ceiling with great results. It had virtually zero splatter off the roller.
You can try a few different things to see if you can get a good bond. I’d recommend sand down the trim first with 150 or 220 grit sandpaper. Wipe it down then, you can try a product that we’ve been experimenting with recently called Fresh Start from Benjamin Moore. Is 100% acrylic but bonds really well. Then go over that with your trim paint like emerald urethane. If you’re not getting a good bond (which is unlikely) then you might need to use something like BIN shellac which will bond to just about anything. That’s our nuclear option.
Why sand when it so easy and foolproof to whip a quick coat of shellac primer
Makes for a nice topcoat
Cashmere is a higher line than super paint.
Depends on who you ask. They're priced about the same. I think Super Paint is a better product than cashmere, but that's just been my experience with those products.
You're the only one I've ever heard recommend duration and says cashmere sucks...
Well that's my story and I'm sticking to it. We've switched over to Emerald for the majority of our interior painting over the last 6 months or so which I like even more than Duration. Duration and Emerald are both way better than cashmere in my experience. I don't know a single crew that uses cashmere. The can looks nice, and that's about all it's got going for it.
I want to be a painter
Haha, I’m sure you can if you want to
Cashmere is really bad paint. Many customers complain it doesn’t hold up and is not practical at all
I am not a fan
My grandma ha cashmere
Hahaha
Gar bog
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Never ever buy the captivate series!! This literally cannot be considered paint. I put 3 coats on and still the finish is terrible! The consistency is like yogurt and the coverage is unbelievably horrible. Add on the price and YOU JUST GOT SCREWED!! Do yourself a favor and don't buy paint from this company. Is a fancy storefront that sells worse than ikea quality products.
Captivate is definitely garbage, but Sherwin sells a lot of good products too. Just like every other paint company. They sell tiers of paint. Some suck and some are solid performers.
This guy is just giving an opinion and he doesn't seem to be very well informed so keep that in mind because people that don't know what. They're talking about tend to love the sound of their own voices like this guy.
I’m curious what part of this is uninformed? I’ve been using Sherwin Williams products for two decades including all of the ones listed in this video. I do quite enjoy the sound of my own voice, but I am actually informed by my experience in the field. At least dislike me for the right reasons.