As a fellow professional painter I would have appreciated seeing the actual line itself up close instead of just being told they are garbage. I get that they don't meet in the corners but *if* the ceiling line joined correctly then the speed it could be laid down might make its use worthwhile. Contrasting paint would have been helpful. I'd also want to see geometry that wasn't ideal, as most houses are wavy and out of square all over the place and it is here where I suspect this tool will never achieve what a trained human with a brush can.
We’re looking for a better test setup. We also upgraded our cameras so we can better demonstrate the contrast. In the meantime feel free to buy one of these things so you can also be disappointed. Getting good hand skills with a decent brush is still the way 🫡
I could see the white gap between wall and ceiling in the video. The walls and ceiling in the video were very good. They are not usually that square in reality.
There are huge limitations to pads. They won’t work on stucco/popcorn ceilings, they won’t cut around irregular objects or protrusions like doorstops, window sills, handrail brackets, etc. but the three things they will do are flat ceiling cut lines, baseboards/trims and feature walls. If the ceiling is wavy, the line will be wavy. You can’t fake a straight with a pad. A brush will always be necessary.
@@scottmartin7717 as a nonprofessional, it looked fine from my point of view, and if not, maybe you would need to practice a bit and dial in the amount of paint used etc
Rather than firing insults. I'm disabled and can't climb ladders but can't afford a professional. Are there any products out there that aren't hot garbage that can help me do a successful cutting line between ceiling and wall?
I've used a pad painter for years. Never had a problem. Nice clean ceiling line and along trim. I never use it for inside corners. The key is practice and technique.
I’ve used them for years as well. They save time over a brush. I never used to use tape for a straight line, I simply used an angle brush, but it was very time consuming. It’s true, inside corners still require a brush, but the speed at which one can edge with these products is worth the price.
First of all, if you can't cut a good line with any brush (angle, or whatever) you're not a pro. I can cut a seamless, strait as a ruler line with a 6" field brush - it's all in the technique. Second, you use it for everything but inside corners, but what about all the places you really can't get... ? You have to go get a brush and now you have two things to clean up, and putting away your "training wheels" and picking up a brush takes time. Time is money. Learn how to cut a line with a brush and everything will look better... These "pads" and "edgers" are for amateurs who will end up having a paint job that was obviously done by an amateur...
Actually, these tools look pretty good doing a great job with 98% of the cover. Touch ups with a brush is a lot easier than doing the whole thing with a brush. This video convinced me to try the lesser expensive ones.
You know what, those were my thoughts as well...And why would you try to use any of them on the internal corners of a room? They are just not needed for those situations...The pads may not achieve a cut like a pro decorator, but I bet they will leave a better cut than a DIYer who only paints once in a blue moon....
@@peterevans8194 Any ceiling to wall is not 90o perfect trying to use a square to pt paint in there with a square plastic guard and roller will give you a terrible uneven finish
Followed your instructions for using my Shur-Line trim tool and got perfect results. Stood about four feet back from my workshop garbage can, tossed gently forward with just a little lift ... then nothing but air until it hit the bottom of the can liner. Perfect. I wondered what I was doing wrong when i tried to use that thing. Now I get it. My mistake was trying to use that thing. Thanks for this and your many other other instructional RUclips posts.
I've used these. If used correctly (which this guy didn't) they are simply faster at doing some parts of your cut in. You use the tool in conjunction with a brush to get the spots the edger can't hit. But the long runs you end up doing are so much faster it's worth using. Plus you can attach the good edgers to a pole and do your ceiling line without a ladder.
The quality of the long runs with this edger is garbage even if it’s used correctly. There is a reason, as I stated in the video, that no professionals use these devices. If you have brush skills, then it’s considerably faster to use a brush for all the cut-ins. I understand why some folks are nervous about doing some of the longer cuts by hand with a brush, but it’s worth developing that skill and not wasting your money on products like these.
To do inside corner, you can use the other side without wheels. On my pad, the wheels can be removed also for that kind of job. Like any other tools, practice is key.
I still maintain that this is a garbage tool. Limited application no matter how much you practice. You are better served learning to use a brush. There is a reason that no professionals use anything like this.
@@SuperVassarBrothers This guy has been a pro painter for 40+ years and uses a pad edger. He is very efficient with it. Blew his wife away time wise when she was using a brush: ruclips.net/video/RCL7iGbNSIg/видео.html
@SuperVassarBrothers so true! With professionals time is money and if there was a magical device that did cut ins perfect ,every professional would be using one! 😊
The product that solves all of the issues with angles is a brush and skills. I’m am yet to be convinced that this product has anything to offer aside from gimmicky marketing.
For anyone watching: that's a 2" Corona Cortex brush. Great brush. Also consider a 2", 2.5" or 3" Corona Excalibur. $20 brushes that will change your life.
Entertaining. They will market anything that appears to make painting easier, see also paint and primer in one. After showing all three products I would have liked to see you demonstrate proper technique using a quality brush on the exact same room. That way we learn two things - the wrong and the right.
Don't get me started on paint and primer in one. That's a solid thought on showing the right way to do things. These products delayed my day so much that I had to really hustle to get done when I needed to and I didn't have the time to film anymore. Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Paint pad is the way to go every time. Walls, ceiling, doors, deck stain, fence stain. Pop the rollers off and use the free edge. The more you use it, you’ll notice which the direction the pad fibres lay. You’ll figure out which way to flip and turn it the direction you need it to go. You can first coat a 6ft fence board in one swipe with no overlap. Cutting in walls, no brush bristle marks, no visual overlap, holds and distributes a ton of paint evenly in one swipe, compared to reloading a paint brush 4 times. Tape a paint stick (or anything long and flat) to the back of the paint pad, and reach behind toilet tanks and narrow spaces. Paint pad without the handle, load one side and slide it in between deck/fence boards to coat the sides. You can feather your wall cut in’s perfectly to blend with roller application of wall paint. Only time I do not use a paint pad is for trim with deep contours and large flat surfaces, where a 9” roller would be faster.
I have the red edger, I've had great results with it, but mine doesn't have wheels. Also, you're not supposed to use it for corners. There is another brush with a 90° bend for perfect corners.
I laughed so hard when you started painting with the roller (Accubrush). The screeching sound against the ceiling, the sound of the roller all together... Man that was funny. By the way I've never seen you back rolling your cuts like I've seen a lot of other painters do. Do you rhink it's a good thing to do or do you think it's a waste of time?
First thing I'll say is I have tried both of the first two, not successfully. I threw both of them out and switched to yellow Frog tape and a brush, and will continue that method. I'm not even going to try the third one. But I have to say that trying to cut two adjacent walls (at 8:35) defeats the purpose of these tools. The whole point of using these tools is cutting walls where the adjacent paint is a different color, so I feel that there is no need to use either of these tools for two adjacent walls painted the same color. I definitely agree with your final assessment. Get a pro, or learn to cut with a brush - but yellow Frog tape worked great for me.
Need more DIY-ers doing reviews on these products, because that’s who it’s meant for and who keeps buying them. So must be a reason they keep paying for these products. Just saying. 😊
Orrrrrrr DIY-ers could build a bit of skill with a brush which scales nicely over time and give you much better results then these garbage products 🤷♂️
They have there place, it’s a tool like anything else. If you continue this logic chain it leads to “you can’t get into small spaces with a 9” roller” If you’re a professional painter working for homeowners and want to charge a premium, you will ALWAYS get a closer and better line with a good cut in brush. If you work on rental properties or new construction and can’t spray the walls for some reason, these get the job done faster. I have a GC friend who gives these to new people on his team so they can be profitable employees on day one, and his more experienced guys do the detail work. If they want a raise they have to learn how to use the brush. I just used one of these on a stairwell and it saved me oodles of time setting up ladders. The houses I work on are old (over 100 years) so like 10% of the time they get it on the other surface and I have to clean it. So my “cut in” is twice as fast, but my “total time” is faster with a brush and back roller since I’m not cleaning the trim with a rag at all. So I only use them for super hard to reach places. But if I worked on newer homes I would use them to get 80% of the job done and then a brush for the rest All that being said. I wouldn’t use these in my own home. I can get a closer line with a brush. There’s your honest “DIYer” review from a professional
DIYers who are only going to paint their house once; might not be worth it to learn how to cut in properly. But then again if it’s your own house and you can’t cut in, tape and caulk will give you a cleaner line. Honesty these things are just made for speed when precision isn’t important. I know people who use 1 & 1/4 “ mega rollers for interior walls just because they hold more paint and get it done faster. It works for them. That’s who these things useful for. It’s like finish carpentry vs framing. Framer doesn’t need a super fine pensil or perfect cuts. It’s framing. It all depends on what your goals are
I'm just a regular DIY homeowner and I've used the low priced padded edging devices a few times and I must say I always achieved great results around trim and ceilings. Yes, you need to use a brush from time to time in some circumstances. But, when these padded edgers are used for what they are designed for, then they are really good products. The time saved is tremendous when compared to cutting in with a brush or masking everything off. I never used the Accubrush, but I think it is probably a waste of money because excellent results are achievable with the cheaper alternatives.
Glad you’re getting the results you’re going for. Without getting into the weeds too much on this, if you put the effort in to get skills with a brush then you will be much faster and get higher quality results then with the products you mentioned. I made this point specifically in the video, but there are many reasons that professionals don’t use these products.
@@SuperVassarBrothers You're speaking as a professional, and I totally agree that for a pro who does this daily with premium tools, edgers are useless. However the average DIY'er doesn't do this every day, and it's just not practical.
Thank you for an honest review! You are not getting any sponsors for junk anytime soon. But you just got a subscriber who believes in your opinions and will benefit from your experience.
Thanks for doing this. I'm a pro painter as well, and have seen these and so many things came to mind from, "those wheels will keep it more than a nickels width from the cut line, so the cut will look horrible. To, what happens in the hands of an amateur who will get way too much paint on it, or not enough and then be dealing with slop (all over the device) which will then destroy the cut line, or going over and over an area, making it take 4 times the amount of time it would with just a brush. And yea, that "Edge Pro", I saw that inability to get into all corners right off, plus, again, what happens when paint gets on the shield? (which it is SURE to do after about 3 minutes of use). So many things I saw wrong with all of these that you have confirmed for me. Thanks! Here's an idea, either call a pro painter, or learn how to prep. I can grab a brush and cut in a ceiling faster than I could unpack any of those and go through what it would take to make a good cut line with them.
I agree with your assessment good sir. I wouldn’t take as much issue with them if their marketing didn’t claim that you can get “professional level results” which is not true in my experience.
Hi yes I agree with you to become a pro painter you must be doing this as a job all the time ,they can be messy have carefully gone along the ceiling not to bad for me takes time with these tools. Came across your vid very useful comments great job !thanks bob uk.
I've used the Blue one for years , the trick is to add paint on it with your paint brush a 1/8 from the top where the rollers are & don't overload it with paint & you'll get a true line every time . Like everything practice makes perfect ... the roller may be "SHIT" , but the Blue & Red work.
There's no way you're getting a "true" line every time with one of these. Very few drywall corners are a perfect 90 degrees. There is a reason that I don't know a single good professional painter that uses these. If it's working for you then have at it, but in my opinion If you're going to practice with something, practice cutting clean lines with a good brush. That's a fair more scaleable skill. If you become competent with a brush, you'll out pace one of these edgers and get better lines all day.
@@SuperVassarBrothers not everyone watching this is a professional painter. I’ve repainted my interior of the entire house, and by the end job I was proficient, not good, with cutting in with a brush. And then the next time I need to paint a house is a decade, and by that time everything I learned before about cutting in, I’ve forgotten, and I need to learn it all over again. Honestly if any of these things can do better than tape that bleeds everywhere like crazy, it’s a win in my book. My house doesn’t need to look perfect, just decent and reasonably clean. It’s not the Taj Mahal. Edit: do you have a good video on how to get good cutting in? Maybe a way to learn this skill fast?
I have also found that the edger from home depot is a fail. I just use the brush now. Each time I use the brush I see improvement in my technique. And I have found that the brush really does matter.
we just used the pad with wheels. When you shake using a brush is impossible for cutting. Keeping the pad edge drip free and not rushing is key. Clean the wheels often (they snap out very easily) I will say this-- don't check the brush. Corners get brushed and angles around the window do the same. Then use pad followed by 9 inch roller. We use paint sticks and have for 15 to 20 yrs. I've painted inside houses (we have 80 of them) a lot. We had a flip we used the pad on since we are doing bright white and Repose gray.
I wasn't doubting your opinion. YOU are a pro who does this every day. For those of us only doing once every 2 months -- we can never get to your skill level. thanks for the video-- especially the big roller kit info. Accu something.
As a handyman for over 20 years I have had to do some cutting in but not as often as a pro painter. I have used both versions of the accubrush and the pole version, I think, is easier to use. The nicest thing I have found is that I don't have to climb a ladder or scaffolding to do long runs or over covered furniture, until of course you get to the corners, that is the biggest downfall with the accubrush. It do have a "learning curve" and they are good for a couple of jobs, unless they have made them better. The one suggestion want to point out is that when you do your last pass go in the direction with the roller as the last thing on the wall, not the wheels. This should take care of the "roller" marks.
I appreciate the input on using the accubrush. I can say with confidence that I’ll never use one again unless I make another video about it. I shall stick to my brush skills 🫡
1. Don’t use it on inside corners. That makes no sense at all. You’ll just end up with paint on the wheels and ruin them before you even get started. It’s for ceiling, trim cutting and feature walls only. (dry paint on wheel side). 2. The harder you press the closer the line. 3. Dip and scrape off excess paint on the edge of your pan. 4. Less is more. Don’t overload the pad. You still have to do 2 coats. Light pressure on the first cut. Heavier pressure on the second pass.
100% nothing beats a steady hand cutting in with a brush plain and simple! I've tried a few of those products and they've failed vs. a brush. Practice and get a steady hand, it'll come with time!
Between wall and ceiling is never flush square, The number of times I have had people complain the cutting in is not razor sharp. I put them on the stepladder and force them to look at the edge, then they understand that I have followed the up's and downs between the wall and ceiling.
I m not a professional painter but i ve been DIY painting for many time thru the years and have tried all those stupid stuffs, but end up liking the brush the best. I agree with you just work your way up with the brush n when you good at it, it 's way faster than all those stupid things without wasting times and money with frustrations lol.
That's an excellent question. Getting a referral from friends or family can be a good way to narrow down your selection. You can potentially go see the work that the painter has done and find out whether or not the client had a good experience with them. I'll link to a video I did on selecting a professional at the end of this comment. A good professional should come out and give you an estimate (most don't charge for this, but some do). They should be respectful, timely and polite. You want to think about whether or not this is the type of person you would want in your house. So if you get a bad vibe off of a painter, or any contractor for that matter, then you may want to find somebody else. Another strategy you can use, is to try them out on a small area in your home. If they do a nice job and you're happy with everything, then you can have them do more work in the future. I hope this helped! ruclips.net/video/02BBQ80mImU/видео.html
We like using this goose neck brush for hard to reach areas if we can’t get ladders up there. It screws right into an extension pole. Here’s the link: Richard 80833 Goose Neck Angular Paint Brush with Flexible Soft Grip Handle, 2-1/2" a.co/d/e91BOST
Thanks for posting this video, found it really interesting & I wasn't at all surprised to hear your negative thoughts on these contraptions! I would not waste my money on this crap & would rather spend my money on employing a pro painter like yourself. ☘️👍
I don't understand y ur trying to do the corners with those device anyway. And I wanted to see how straight of a line it made. Of course it's not going to get everything but u did use the first one pretty fast.
In my opinion these are completely useless for any application. They will never be faster or better than a standard brush and roller setup. My personal preference is a 2 1/2 inch Corona Cortez. That being said, you are more than welcome to give it a go if you don't believe me. Good luck with your project!
I started painting professionally in 1972 and have found that almost all the gadgets they sell to save you time or improve the quality of your work are a waste of money and don't do what they promise. Every painter has bought some tool that seemed like a good idea but after one or two uses was put in a box somewhere and forgotten.
as far as price goes,i do auto body, and as an example, i spent $ 187.00 dollars on a door skin seamer, and in 40 years i have used it once , so price is relative to your sanity, and patience, (ability comes into play also) while doing the task at hand, so the accu brush was worth the $30.00 something i spent on it, the consumables aren't cheap either, soooo, peace of mind
Thank you, Jeremy, I was actually considering buying the Accubrush set with the 40" pole! You just saved me about $120! One thing you didn't address is that it seems like that would actually save time over doing it with a brush since you wouldn't have to go up and down the ladder over and over. 🤷♀
I get what you're saying about the potential time savings for that application, but you would find it quite challenging to get quality cut-ins with the accubrush and the extension pole. It's also quite challenging to control something like that on that big of an extension. I'm a little biased, because I'm on ladders all the time, so that part doesn't bother me.
He didn't use the Accubrush properly. Kind of misleading, and I like cutting in by hand too, And *of course* one wold have to cut in the corners. It's meant to save time on the long straight runs
I've been a pro painter for 12 years. Gadgets are great for homeowners who don't do this all the time. But if you want to be a pro, use the tools pros use. I use a 3" Purdy Pro-Extra Sprig and won't touch anything else. I'm there to put paint on the wall, not leave it in the bucket. So I want the biggest, thickest brush that makes sense. I tried a 4", but inside of a residential home, it's just too much.
I've used all of them before. I had a pro painter look at one of the staircases and wondered how he could paint that high up. I used a pole and a Behr paint edger up to the ceiling and touched up the corners with a brush on a pole. The Accu Brush has huge drawbacks it can only go one direction because of the guard which to me was the worst and most cumbersome. The regular edgers work in combination with the brush to give a fast quality look as does the roller then the brush cutting.
I'm going to use the Behr edger and an extension pole tomorrow on a high staircase. Wish me luck! I really like that edger though, it saved me so much time painting the rest of the house. It's truly great
Cutting brush doesn't work for beginners either, it takes practice. The pads work great. Reading instructions help. You use them in conjunction with a brush that the edger wont do. Pad edger has been in use since the 60's. Big seller because they work.
I can understand why a pro who does edging day after day would prefer using a brush. As a DIY'er, I really like using the Sure Line edger. For me it's much quicker than using the brush. Everything about it is easier for the occasional painter. I've found the edger very useful especially where there is a high ceiling. The edger can be attached to an extension pole to reach high places. BTW, I found it better to start the edger a few inches from the edge and then bring it toward the edge as your moving it forward. This way you don't end up with a glob of paint at the start. Also, why would you want to use an edger for painting corners if both walls are the same color? I don't think these gadgets will put pros out of business. There are still people who just don't want to do things themselves. With all that being said, If I hired a pro to paint my rooms and they started using one of these, I'd fire them.
I understand the appeal of these types of products if they delivered on the claims they make, but I still believe that folks would be better served if they put the time towards developing skills with a brush. I'd rather see shitty cuts with a brush than what these products do. At least you can work on getting better and aren't limited by a gimmicky products. You put it well when you said that if you hired a professional and they used one of these things, then you'd fire them.
@@SuperVassarBrothers My point is that I paint the inside of my house every 5-6 years. I do know *_how_* to cut in with a brush, but by the time I've gotten halfway decent at it, I'm done until I paint again. If I use the edger, I get decent results in less time. Are the results the same as a pro? Heck no, but the job looks better than if I did it with a brush. The learning curve with the edger is less than it is with a brush. I've used both.
This is the reason I'm looking at this. Sounds I'm in a similar situation to you. I have painted my own rooms and cut in myself. It's definitely not perfect but not absolutely awful either. If a professional had come in and done what I had I wouldn't get then again but the whole reason I'm painting myself is to save money. With one of these I'm thinking I may get similar results to doing it myself but it will save me loads of time, effort and stress. Do you think it's worth it for that? I don't have the time or patience to learn to cut in like a pro!
The Accubrushs’ ability to place it on an extension pole is the it’s main benefit. You wanna walk and ladder an entire room with your brush, have at it. The shade differences between walls and ceilings in most cases, will never be seen. Corners always require detailing. It’s a legs, angles and time saver overall.
Yeah…not sure what most cases you’re referring to. You can definitely tell the difference between the wall color, trim and ceiling when the trim and ceiling are white and you’ve got a mid tone or dark wall color. On the jobs I do, that is often the case and this product does not produce acceptable results. I also think you might be underestimating how fast you can get with a brush, but if you’re happy with the results you’re getting then keep on keeping on.
@@SuperVassarBrothers I generally use a 4” oval corona for everything. Been doing it that way for, well, for years.. Efficiency at times is also the objective. I’ve sprayed, rolled and cut miles of paint. The ball end of the device allowing it to turn to the degree of angle, created by the extension pole makes it a breeze to walk the perimeters. Hands down one of the better solutions out there. The 18” double roller with a spray shield from Australia, talk about efficiency!
The accubrush makes the most aggressive marketing claims out of all of these products. We may do another video on these types of products in the future and do a more thorough test
That sureline edger has been around for decades. I would have thought by now that they would stop making it. Getting paint on the wheels is impossible to avoid
Something about being able to cut in perfectly with a brush is so much more satisfying than using these gimicky tools. I actually enjoy cutting in, sort of get in a zone mentally while I am doing it, I'm no pro, but painted enough over the years that blue tape only comes into play when cutting in a narrow area, or up to stuff like stained wood, carpet etc. I tell new painters 1. never buy a cheap brush, 2. select the proper brushes and take care of them and they will last a typical homeowner forever, I think a great quality 2.5 or 3" sash brush is the best for amateurs. 3. practice: TAKE YOUR TIME! do a closet first, use a corner where both sides are going to get painted anyway as an area to develop cutting in skills, practice going around the trim inside the closet, if you screw up a bit, no one is ever going to see it. Most important, watch videos, I didn't have the luxury of RUclips whilst I was learning to paint, sit down and watch a few painting vids, so much good info available today!
I've been a professional painter for 24 years, and i agree this tool is not something we would use at all. Nothing beats the good ol Brush and roller, unless you're using a sprayer of course.
@@SuperVassarBrothers I have recently started watching your videos and I honestly really enjoy them. It's always entertaining watching another professional doing what we do! Keep Up The Good Work, Sir! 💪🏾
i am a professional auto painter, so masking is a quick nothing task for me , so that's how i get perfect lines, my step daughter , who is " painting by tiffany" a professional house painter , calls me a cheater cause she can do it with a brush , no tape or screed needed there, however, if i use this thing, most af the edge comes out really good, and i go back and fix the few bad spots, as opposed to trying to make "acceptable" delineations between colors free handed with a brush, i have been known to do the edges in an entire room with a 3/8" chissel tip artist brush,,,,, soooooooooooo,,,, for a non pro house paint home owner ,i think the accu brush in most cases will do the job nicely
And u still have to feather it out before u use the roller or you will see a difference in paint thickness trust me you will able to see how thick and edge is compared to the roller part
Hello. For someone like you, who is a professional painter, these products are not as good as your skill. But, for someone like me, who struggles to get clean lines, I think they do a pretty good job. I paint only occasionally, like most homeowners.
I had no idea how many people liked these things until I made this video and the comments got a little spicy. I guess using a brush can be intimidating, but these things are still crap.
Some corners you need to touchup with brush, also I think all of the products did their job but you need to first figure out which wall to paint first and then why do you use these at the wall corners? It does not make any sense..if its the same paint then use brush or roller.
I think you either have the ability to cut a straight line or you don't. My wife is an amateur artist. She paints with oil paints and can't paint a straight line to save her life. Lol! I, on the other hand, struggle to draw stick people. However, I can paint a straight line. Lol! When we were painting our house, she got one of the pads with wheels thingy. All I can say is I had to go behind her and fix all her cut ins. You're right they are garbage! I always caulk the ceiling line. This gives me a smooth transition line to paint. Then I cut the wall into the ceiling just a hair with paint. This enables me to paint a straight line that is technically on the ceiling, but from the floor looking up, it looks incredibly straight. I also think practice makes perfect. You also have to not be afraid of messing up. Once you get rid of the anxiety of it all, you're able to relax and just do it! Anyways ,just my 2 cents...😊
Unless of course you have a nervous disorder that presents in a tremor. Which means, you will never get good with a brush. So you spend a bit of time learning how to use those edger's correctly and don't expect them to work in corners and other places they were not designed for. I have tried a couple and they work well enough. Did you pick up your first brush all those years ago and expect it to instantly do prefect edges!
I still maintain that most folks would be better served putting the effort in to getting brush skills. The applications for these edgers are limited even if used correctly, which is why I know of zero professionals that use them.
I find them vert useful. Don't overload them like you would a paint brush. They then do a quick and easy edge for me. Which is almost impossible for me with a brush.@@SuperVassarBrothers
We’ll be making another video using the accubrush and a higher contrast paint combination in the near future. My opinion of these products is still unlikely to change, mainly due to the fact that they are hot garbage. You are much better off putting in the time to develop skills with a quality brush.
“I’m going to be objective” proceeds to go at it like a bull at a gate then say they’re rubbish because they can’t get into spaces they’re quite obviously not meant for
I'm surprised that for a professional you can't make it work. I'm not a pro and I have no problem with it but I did have to use it a little bit and eventually figured out how to use it. Also I find it strange that you think these are made for pros. Most DIYers paint a couple of rooms and are satisfied with the outcome.
I take issue with how these tools are marketed. I thought I presented that clearly in the video. Particularly the Accu-brush claims to produce “professional” results. Which in my opinion it does not, nor is it capable of doing so. If I do another one of these videos I think I need to better illustrate what professional cut-ins should look like vs. what these tools can produce. I’m aware these are not for professionals, but even if you are a DIYer, I still believe you are better off putting your efforts into developing skills with a brush.
I am not a completely professional painter but I do construction on all scales from foundation and up including painting. I think what he was trying to say is you can use a brush and eventually get good . A as opposed to the pad where your skill level will never improve and you will be frustrated the entire time you use it. There's no room for improvement. I think this was designed for lazy people that don't want to put the effort in to learning a skill that will will take time and practice to get good.can the pad work. Yes. Can you get better and better. I think not. I can cut in a entire room with a brush in the time it takes people to figure out how to cut in one angle. Again I'm not a pro painter either. You don't want to be all frustrated in front of a client trying to use a pad. If it's not broke don't fix it. Stick to the basics. Time is 💰 money and I make more using a brush. Thank you for the video!
I know you're a professional, but I don't know why you would try to cut in a corner of two walls. The only time you would do that is if one wall was a different color. As far as the pad cutting in around the window they're not really designed for windows with a sill because of the different shape at the bottom. there more designed for perfectly Square trim around windows. Meaning there's no sill at the bottom.
The goal of cutting in is to outline the walls so you’re covering areas that can’t be reached by the roller. Every crew I know of cuts in inside corners (perhaps there are some that don’t). You can get the roller pretty close on inside corners but if you mush it all the way in, then the texturing tends to look like garbage. You’re making my point about the pads. They have extremely limited application and conditions have to be ideal for them to perform well. If you put in the time to get decent with a brush then that skill is far more scaleable to a wide variety of applications and you’ll end up with better results.
@@SuperVassarBrothers I guess the point I was trying to make about the inside corners of the walls is someone wouldn't necessarily use that edging pad for that, they would just fill it in with the brush. The edging pads seems like they do a decent job for the average DIY'R, I had high hopes for that one with the roller but when I saw that it doesn't get into the corners, it's kind of useless.
I hate when people call themselves a professional but then make a terrible video that doesn't show any professionalism at all I'm not a professional painter but I am a 30-year contractor I do paint and I don't care either way if I use the trimmer or brush it's still going to be finished and it doesn't cost much those things cost about $2 and they work pretty good it's a whole lot faster than using a brush you don't want to pay you on the wheels do one corner at a time
I stand by that. I’ll make it easier to see on the next one. The camera did not pick up the contrast well on this one, but these products are still hot garbage.
Why use the pad on hhe vertical corners. Dont need it. . Run a brush down the corner so you have an inch on either side painted then free hand your roller.. the pads might work where you at the ceiling or casing.. but he is 100% correct.. by using a brush you will grt better in the skills.. with the pad you are limited to the limitions of the pad. The roller thing is a disaster
Well I was going off what it claimed to do on the box. “Professional” results. I politely disagree and I maintain that there’s a whole slew of reasons that painters don’t use them.
The paint was grey. On The Rocks if memory serves. I get your point though. I’ve since upgraded my cameras so that they do a better job of picking up the contrast between paints. Either way, the accubrush is still a big ol’ poopie fart.
You just didn't know how to use a shur-line edger usually it's supposed to be just for the long runs next to the ceiling and floor board I must have used that for over 30 years and there's old tricks to it and there's nothing better you started it too close to your line you want us to be about a foot away or 6in and just faded right into where you're working and you're not supposed to really do corners get right next to the corner but don't try to overdo it
We’ll be doing another video with a higher contrasting paint in the future. The color difference actually was significant, but the camera didn’t pick it up.
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As a fellow professional painter I would have appreciated seeing the actual line itself up close instead of just being told they are garbage. I get that they don't meet in the corners but *if* the ceiling line joined correctly then the speed it could be laid down might make its use worthwhile.
Contrasting paint would have been helpful. I'd also want to see geometry that wasn't ideal, as most houses are wavy and out of square all over the place and it is here where I suspect this tool will never achieve what a trained human with a brush can.
We’re looking for a better test setup. We also upgraded our cameras so we can better demonstrate the contrast. In the meantime feel free to buy one of these things so you can also be disappointed. Getting good hand skills with a decent brush is still the way 🫡
I could see the white gap between wall and ceiling in the video. The walls and ceiling in the video were very good. They are not usually that square in reality.
There are huge limitations to pads. They won’t work on stucco/popcorn ceilings, they won’t cut around irregular objects or protrusions like doorstops, window sills, handrail brackets, etc.
but the three things they will do are flat ceiling cut lines, baseboards/trims and feature walls.
If the ceiling is wavy, the line will be wavy.
You can’t fake a straight with a pad.
A brush will always be necessary.
@@scottmartin7717 as a nonprofessional, it looked fine from my point of view, and if not, maybe you would need to practice a bit and dial in the amount of paint used etc
Rather than firing insults. I'm disabled and can't climb ladders but can't afford a professional. Are there any products out there that aren't hot garbage that can help me do a successful cutting line between ceiling and wall?
I've used a pad painter for years. Never had a problem. Nice clean ceiling line and along trim. I never use it for inside corners. The key is practice and technique.
If it’s working for you then keep at it. I’ll stick with my Corona Cortez
same here. It requires practice - that is true.
I’ve used them for years as well. They save time over a brush. I never used to use tape for a straight line, I simply used an angle brush, but it was very time consuming. It’s true, inside corners still require a brush, but the speed at which one can edge with these products is worth the price.
First of all, if you can't cut a good line with any brush (angle, or whatever) you're not a pro. I can cut a seamless, strait as a ruler line with a 6" field brush - it's all in the technique. Second, you use it for everything but inside corners, but what about all the places you really can't get... ? You have to go get a brush and now you have two things to clean up, and putting away your "training wheels" and picking up a brush takes time. Time is money. Learn how to cut a line with a brush and everything will look better... These "pads" and "edgers" are for amateurs who will end up having a paint job that was obviously done by an amateur...
@@jonnysterling6917 I can cut in with a brush, I just find it easier ..and no, I'm not a pro (painter)..
Actually, these tools look pretty good doing a great job with 98% of the cover. Touch ups with a brush is a lot easier than doing the whole thing with a brush. This video convinced me to try the lesser expensive ones.
You are more than welcome to give it a go.
i agree, if I can get 99% of the ceiling line with this, time saver, tape and or brush for rest
the cheap ones work great. keep the wheels clean. touch up with brush.
You know what, those were my thoughts as well...And why would you try to use any of them on the internal corners of a room? They are just not needed for those situations...The pads may not achieve a cut like a pro decorator, but I bet they will leave a better cut than a DIYer who only paints once in a blue moon....
@@peterevans8194 Any ceiling to wall is not 90o perfect trying to use a square to pt paint in there with a square plastic guard and roller will give you a terrible uneven finish
The edger are meant for going around frames or ceiling not to meet wall-to-wall. You can use a regular brush/roller. you don’t have to use the edger.
It's still bad at the things it's meant for.
Followed your instructions for using my Shur-Line trim tool and got perfect results.
Stood about four feet back from my workshop garbage can, tossed gently forward with just a little lift ... then nothing but air until it hit the bottom of the can liner. Perfect.
I wondered what I was doing wrong when i tried to use that thing. Now I get it. My mistake was trying to use that thing.
Thanks for this and your many other other instructional RUclips posts.
Well played sir. Appreciate the kind words
I've used these. If used correctly (which this guy didn't) they are simply faster at doing some parts of your cut in. You use the tool in conjunction with a brush to get the spots the edger can't hit. But the long runs you end up doing are so much faster it's worth using. Plus you can attach the good edgers to a pole and do your ceiling line without a ladder.
The quality of the long runs with this edger is garbage even if it’s used correctly. There is a reason, as I stated in the video, that no professionals use these devices. If you have brush skills, then it’s considerably faster to use a brush for all the cut-ins. I understand why some folks are nervous about doing some of the longer cuts by hand with a brush, but it’s worth developing that skill and not wasting your money on products like these.
Wooster shortcut. I've done entire houses with this brush. No gimmick bullshit needed
To do inside corner, you can use the other side without wheels. On my pad, the wheels can be removed also for that kind of job. Like any other tools, practice is key.
I still maintain that this is a garbage tool. Limited application no matter how much you practice. You are better served learning to use a brush. There is a reason that no professionals use anything like this.
@@SuperVassarBrothers This guy has been a pro painter for 40+ years and uses a pad edger. He is very efficient with it. Blew his wife away time wise when she was using a brush: ruclips.net/video/RCL7iGbNSIg/видео.html
@SuperVassarBrothers so true! With professionals time is money and if there was a magical device that did cut ins perfect ,every professional would be using one! 😊
I have Used the Accu trim works great for me no product will totally solve all your pinning angles so a combination of Accu trim and brush works well
The product that solves all of the issues with angles is a brush and skills. I’m am yet to be convinced that this product has anything to offer aside from gimmicky marketing.
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Absolutely agree 100% thanks for the video I actually thought of buying the accubrush. You saved me time and money 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
You are most welcome. Get a nice Corona Cortez and have at it 🤙
For anyone watching: that's a 2" Corona Cortex brush. Great brush. Also consider a 2", 2.5" or 3" Corona Excalibur. $20 brushes that will change your life.
My go to is a 2.5 inch Corona Cortez. It's my absolute favorite brush. The excalibur is excellent as well!
Coronas Cody is good too💪🏻🇺🇸
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I think I'll get that brand. Cortex shows for oil but I want for latex. Not sure if those with the angle cut is better.
3 1/2 inch corona triumph Chinex.
Entertaining. They will market anything that appears to make painting easier, see also paint and primer in one. After showing all three products I would have liked to see you demonstrate proper technique using a quality brush on the exact same room. That way we learn two things - the wrong and the right.
Don't get me started on paint and primer in one. That's a solid thought on showing the right way to do things. These products delayed my day so much that I had to really hustle to get done when I needed to and I didn't have the time to film anymore.
Thanks for the comment and for watching!
Paint pad is the way to go every time. Walls, ceiling, doors, deck stain, fence stain. Pop the rollers off and use the free edge. The more you use it, you’ll notice which the direction the pad fibres lay. You’ll figure out which way to flip and turn it the direction you need it to go. You can first coat a 6ft fence board in one swipe with no overlap. Cutting in walls, no brush bristle marks, no visual overlap, holds and distributes a ton of paint evenly in one swipe, compared to reloading a paint brush 4 times. Tape a paint stick (or anything long and flat) to the back of the paint pad, and reach behind toilet tanks and narrow spaces. Paint pad without the handle, load one side and slide it in between deck/fence boards to coat the sides. You can feather your wall cut in’s perfectly to blend with roller application of wall paint. Only time I do not use a paint pad is for trim with deep contours and large flat surfaces, where a 9” roller would be faster.
I’m glad it’s working for you.
You just saved me time and money brother! Thank you for the reviews👍🏼😎👍🏼
You are most welcome 🤙
I have the red edger, I've had great results with it, but mine doesn't have wheels. Also, you're not supposed to use it for corners. There is another brush with a 90° bend for perfect corners.
I’ll stick with a brush for all my cut-ins. If you’re getting good results then have at it 👍
I laughed so hard when you started painting with the roller (Accubrush). The screeching sound against the ceiling, the sound of the roller all together... Man that was funny. By the way I've never seen you back rolling your cuts like I've seen a lot of other painters do. Do you rhink it's a good thing to do or do you think it's a waste of time?
It depends on how finicky the product is. We usually roll tight to our cut-ins and we don't have an issue with picture framing.
First thing I'll say is I have tried both of the first two, not successfully. I threw both of them out and switched to yellow Frog tape and a brush, and will continue that method. I'm not even going to try the third one. But I have to say that trying to cut two adjacent walls (at 8:35) defeats the purpose of these tools. The whole point of using these tools is cutting walls where the adjacent paint is a different color, so I feel that there is no need to use either of these tools for two adjacent walls painted the same color. I definitely agree with your final assessment. Get a pro, or learn to cut with a brush - but yellow Frog tape worked great for me.
A good brush is the way to go. This is the way
Need more DIY-ers doing reviews on these products, because that’s who it’s meant for and who keeps buying them. So must be a reason they keep paying for these products. Just saying. 😊
Orrrrrrr DIY-ers could build a bit of skill with a brush which scales nicely over time and give you much better results then these garbage products 🤷♂️
They have there place, it’s a tool like anything else.
If you continue this logic chain it leads to “you can’t get into small spaces with a 9” roller”
If you’re a professional painter working for homeowners and want to charge a premium, you will ALWAYS get a closer and better line with a good cut in brush.
If you work on rental properties or new construction and can’t spray the walls for some reason, these get the job done faster.
I have a GC friend who gives these to new people on his team so they can be profitable employees on day one, and his more experienced guys do the detail work. If they want a raise they have to learn how to use the brush.
I just used one of these on a stairwell and it saved me oodles of time setting up ladders.
The houses I work on are old (over 100 years) so like 10% of the time they get it on the other surface and I have to clean it. So my “cut in” is twice as fast, but my “total time” is faster with a brush and back roller since I’m not cleaning the trim with a rag at all. So I only use them for super hard to reach places. But if I worked on newer homes I would use them to get 80% of the job done and then a brush for the rest
All that being said. I wouldn’t use these in my own home. I can get a closer line with a brush.
There’s your honest “DIYer” review from a professional
DIYers who are only going to paint their house once; might not be worth it to learn how to cut in properly.
But then again if it’s your own house and you can’t cut in, tape and caulk will give you a cleaner line.
Honesty these things are just made for speed when precision isn’t important.
I know people who use 1 & 1/4 “ mega rollers for interior walls just because they hold more paint and get it done faster. It works for them. That’s who these things useful for.
It’s like finish carpentry vs framing. Framer doesn’t need a super fine pensil or perfect cuts. It’s framing.
It all depends on what your goals are
Amen to that.
I'm just a regular DIY homeowner and I've used the low priced padded edging devices a few times and I must say I always achieved great results around trim and ceilings. Yes, you need to use a brush from time to time in some circumstances. But, when these padded edgers are used for what they are designed for, then they are really good products. The time saved is tremendous when compared to cutting in with a brush or masking everything off. I never used the Accubrush, but I think it is probably a waste of money because excellent results are achievable with the cheaper alternatives.
Glad you’re getting the results you’re going for. Without getting into the weeds too much on this, if you put the effort in to get skills with a brush then you will be much faster and get higher quality results then with the products you mentioned. I made this point specifically in the video, but there are many reasons that professionals don’t use these products.
@@SuperVassarBrothers You're speaking as a professional, and I totally agree that for a pro who does this daily with premium tools, edgers are useless. However the average DIY'er doesn't do this every day, and it's just not practical.
Thanks for the reviews. Very helpful.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for an honest review! You are not getting any sponsors for junk anytime soon. But you just got a subscriber who believes in your opinions and will benefit from your experience.
Thank you kind sir. I will never endorse products I think are garbage 🤙
Thanks for doing this. I'm a pro painter as well, and have seen these and so many things came to mind from, "those wheels will keep it more than a nickels width from the cut line, so the cut will look horrible. To, what happens in the hands of an amateur who will get way too much paint on it, or not enough and then be dealing with slop (all over the device) which will then destroy the cut line, or going over and over an area, making it take 4 times the amount of time it would with just a brush. And yea, that "Edge Pro", I saw that inability to get into all corners right off, plus, again, what happens when paint gets on the shield? (which it is SURE to do after about 3 minutes of use). So many things I saw wrong with all of these that you have confirmed for me. Thanks! Here's an idea, either call a pro painter, or learn how to prep. I can grab a brush and cut in a ceiling faster than I could unpack any of those and go through what it would take to make a good cut line with them.
I agree with your assessment good sir. I wouldn’t take as much issue with them if their marketing didn’t claim that you can get “professional level results” which is not true in my experience.
I am a professional painter using a brush for over 35 years and you just confirmed my thoughts.
I do not waist my money and my time.
Thank you
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You are most welcome good sir. Stick with a good brush and your skills 🤙
Hi yes I agree with you to become a pro painter you must be doing this as a job all the time ,they can be messy have carefully gone along the ceiling not to bad for me takes time with these tools. Came across your vid very useful comments great job !thanks bob uk.
I’m glad it was useful! 🫡
I've used the Blue one for years , the trick is to add paint on it with your paint brush a 1/8 from the top where the rollers are & don't overload it with paint & you'll get a true line every time . Like everything practice makes perfect ... the roller may be "SHIT" , but the Blue & Red work.
There's no way you're getting a "true" line every time with one of these. Very few drywall corners are a perfect 90 degrees. There is a reason that I don't know a single good professional painter that uses these. If it's working for you then have at it, but in my opinion If you're going to practice with something, practice cutting clean lines with a good brush. That's a fair more scaleable skill. If you become competent with a brush, you'll out pace one of these edgers and get better lines all day.
@@SuperVassarBrothers Woks for me is all I care about!
@@SuperVassarBrothers not everyone watching this is a professional painter. I’ve repainted my interior of the entire house, and by the end job I was proficient, not good, with cutting in with a brush. And then the next time I need to paint a house is a decade, and by that time everything I learned before about cutting in, I’ve forgotten, and I need to learn it all over again.
Honestly if any of these things can do better than tape that bleeds everywhere like crazy, it’s a win in my book. My house doesn’t need to look perfect, just decent and reasonably clean. It’s not the Taj Mahal.
Edit: do you have a good video on how to get good cutting in? Maybe a way to learn this skill fast?
You being a career professional painter, I can understand it would be in your best interest to be snarky and demean these products.
@123Rockchild lol these products are shit, you don't even need tape or polls or even rollers. A simple 3inch brush can do an entire house
Bought the AccuBrush years ago. No wonder it looks brand new!
Hahaha, that’s about right
Thanks for your great advice !!
You are most welcome!
Thank you for saving me that money. You pointed our areas that those products can't get to. Yes I'll keep using the brush.
You are most welcome. You’re much better off spending the money on a quality brush 🤙
I have also found that the edger from home depot is a fail. I just use the brush now. Each time I use the brush I see improvement in my technique. And I have found that the brush really does matter.
That's the move. Brush skills are the cat's jammers 😺. Good thing you know a cool painter that hooked you up with good brushes 😏
Thanks for the honest reviews! You saved me money on the damn Accubrush garbage that my neighbor lady trumpeted.
You are most welcome! Get a good brush and work on the skills. That’s my recommendation for what it’s worth.
we just used the pad with wheels. When you shake using a brush is impossible for cutting. Keeping the pad edge drip free and not rushing is key. Clean the wheels often (they snap out very easily) I will say this-- don't check the brush. Corners get brushed and angles around the window do the same. Then use pad followed by 9 inch roller. We use paint sticks and have for 15 to 20 yrs. I've painted inside houses (we have 80 of them) a lot.
We had a flip we used the pad on since we are doing bright white and Repose gray.
Whatever works I suppose.
I wasn't doubting your opinion. YOU are a pro who does this every day. For those of us only doing once every 2 months -- we can never get to your skill level. thanks for the video-- especially the big roller kit info. Accu something.
As a handyman for over 20 years I have had to do some cutting in but not as often as a pro painter.
I have used both versions of the accubrush and the pole version, I think, is easier to use. The nicest thing I have found is that I don't have to climb a ladder or scaffolding to do long runs or over covered furniture, until of course you get to the corners, that is the biggest downfall with the accubrush. It do have a "learning curve" and they are good for a couple of jobs, unless they have made them better. The one suggestion want to point out is that when you do your last pass go in the direction with the roller as the last thing on the wall, not the wheels. This should take care of the "roller" marks.
I appreciate the input on using the accubrush. I can say with confidence that I’ll never use one again unless I make another video about it. I shall stick to my brush skills 🫡
1. Don’t use it on inside corners. That makes no sense at all. You’ll just end up with paint on the wheels and ruin them before you even get started. It’s for ceiling, trim cutting and feature walls only. (dry paint on wheel side).
2. The harder you press the closer the line.
3. Dip and scrape off excess paint on the edge of your pan.
4. Less is more. Don’t overload the pad. You still have to do 2 coats. Light pressure on the first cut. Heavier pressure on the second pass.
Or…1. Develop skills with a brush. Whichever you prefer
@@SuperVassarBrothers time is money and the edger gets you to the next job faster. When used properly it’s 3x faster than hand cutting.
Thankyou so much, almost bought one, you saved me money
Spend that money on some good brushes like a corona cortez or corona vegas. They are quite good.
I wish I saw your video before I bought one of those (professional) roller things, haven’t used it yet, I hope I can get a decent line for my ceiling.
I wish you luck 🍀
100% nothing beats a steady hand cutting in with a brush plain and simple! I've tried a few of those products and they've failed vs. a brush. Practice and get a steady hand, it'll come with time!
You nailed it. Brush skills are the move 🫡
So glad I saw this video. I'm not a novice but not a pro. Thanks for the insight!
You are most welcome! Thanks for watching 🤙
White on white super helpfull
The wall paint was grey, but this video was filmed with our old cameras and it didn’t pick up the contrast well.
Between wall and ceiling is never flush square, The number of times I have had people complain the cutting in is not razor sharp. I put them on the stepladder and force them to look at the edge, then they understand that I have followed the up's and downs between the wall and ceiling.
Agreed. The goal is to create the appearance of a straight line when there’s actually not a straight line to follow.
Thank you. Excellent review
You are most welcome🤙
I m not a professional painter but i ve been DIY painting for many time thru the years and have tried all those stupid stuffs, but end up liking the brush the best. I agree with you just work your way up with the brush n when you good at it, it 's way faster than all those stupid things without wasting times and money with frustrations lol.
Well said good sir!
If I were to hire a professional painter, what questions should I ask to get an idea of they are any good?
That's an excellent question. Getting a referral from friends or family can be a good way to narrow down your selection. You can potentially go see the work that the painter has done and find out whether or not the client had a good experience with them. I'll link to a video I did on selecting a professional at the end of this comment.
A good professional should come out and give you an estimate (most don't charge for this, but some do). They should be respectful, timely and polite. You want to think about whether or not this is the type of person you would want in your house. So if you get a bad vibe off of a painter, or any contractor for that matter, then you may want to find somebody else.
Another strategy you can use, is to try them out on a small area in your home. If they do a nice job and you're happy with everything, then you can have them do more work in the future. I hope this helped!
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How do I cut in on a vaulted popcorn ceiling that climbs to 18 feet? Is there a swivel brush attachment for an extension pole?
We like using this goose neck brush for hard to reach areas if we can’t get ladders up there. It screws right into an extension pole. Here’s the link:
Richard 80833 Goose Neck Angular Paint Brush with Flexible Soft Grip Handle, 2-1/2" a.co/d/e91BOST
@@SuperVassarBrothers - Thank you!
Thank you! Very useful. 👍
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At the end of the day, if you’re not comfortable with a brush, just tape the area until you build up your skills.
That would be better than buying one of these gizmos. At least you’d be working towards building brush skills.
they make a 2 padded acubrush for inside corners.
I bet they do
Thanks for posting this video, found it really interesting & I wasn't at all surprised to hear your negative thoughts on these contraptions! I would not waste my money on this crap & would rather spend my money on employing a pro painter like yourself. ☘️👍
Hahaha, that's a solid move. Perhaps the biggest time saver of all is hiring a quality professional :)
I don't understand y ur trying to do the corners with those device anyway. And I wanted to see how straight of a line it made. Of course it's not going to get everything but u did use the first one pretty fast.
It’s still not as useful or effective as a brush.
Very helpful and informative video. Thank you.
You are most welcome! Thanks for watching 😁
What about using any of these for painting an unpainted garage walls?
In my opinion these are completely useless for any application. They will never be faster or better than a standard brush and roller setup. My personal preference is a 2 1/2 inch Corona Cortez. That being said, you are more than welcome to give it a go if you don't believe me. Good luck with your project!
Thanks for the information
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What the ceiliing and wall you are painting same colour show us with different colours
They were different colors, the camera didn’t pick it up. I’ll be making a higher contrast video in the future.
I started painting professionally in 1972 and have found that almost all the gadgets they sell to save you time or improve the quality of your work are a waste of money and don't do what they promise. Every painter has bought some tool that seemed like a good idea but after one or two uses was put in a box somewhere and forgotten.
And yet they keep the gadgets and gizmos coming. I’m with you!
as far as price goes,i do auto body, and as an example, i spent $ 187.00 dollars on a door skin seamer, and in 40 years i have used it once , so price is relative to your sanity, and patience, (ability comes into play also) while doing the task at hand, so the accu brush was worth the $30.00 something i spent on it, the consumables aren't cheap either, soooo, peace of mind
Glad you got your money’s worth 🤙
Thank you, Jeremy, I was actually considering buying the Accubrush set with the 40" pole! You just saved me about $120! One thing you didn't address is that it seems like that would actually save time over doing it with a brush since you wouldn't have to go up and down the ladder over and over. 🤷♀
I get what you're saying about the potential time savings for that application, but you would find it quite challenging to get quality cut-ins with the accubrush and the extension pole. It's also quite challenging to control something like that on that big of an extension. I'm a little biased, because I'm on ladders all the time, so that part doesn't bother me.
He didn't use the Accubrush properly. Kind of misleading, and I like cutting in by hand too, And *of course* one wold have to cut in the corners. It's meant to save time on the long straight runs
Ppl use stilts to paint offices
I've been a pro painter for 12 years. Gadgets are great for homeowners who don't do this all the time. But if you want to be a pro, use the tools pros use. I use a 3" Purdy Pro-Extra Sprig and won't touch anything else. I'm there to put paint on the wall, not leave it in the bucket. So I want the biggest, thickest brush that makes sense. I tried a 4", but inside of a residential home, it's just too much.
Solid choice. If you get a chance you may wanna try a Corona Cortez or Monterey in whatever width you prefer. They are quite delicious 🫡
@@SuperVassarBrothers I may have to. Since SW purchased Purdy, the quality has went way down. Losing bristles still after a month.
Thanks for doing that
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I've used all of them before. I had a pro painter look at one of the staircases and wondered how he could paint that high up. I used a pole and a Behr paint edger up to the ceiling and touched up the corners with a brush on a pole. The Accu Brush has huge drawbacks it can only go one direction because of the guard which to me was the worst and most cumbersome. The regular edgers work in combination with the brush to give a fast quality look as does the roller then the brush cutting.
If it’s working for you then keep on keeping on 🫡
I'm going to use the Behr edger and an extension pole tomorrow on a high staircase. Wish me luck! I really like that edger though, it saved me so much time painting the rest of the house. It's truly great
@@accomplishedtheory9502 Good luck I think you'll have great success and be happy with it.
Cutting brush doesn't work for beginners either, it takes practice. The pads work great. Reading instructions help. You use them in conjunction with a brush that the edger wont do. Pad edger has been in use since the 60's. Big seller because they work.
If it works for you then have at it.
I can understand why a pro who does edging day after day would prefer using a brush. As a DIY'er, I really like using the Sure Line edger. For me it's much quicker than using the brush. Everything about it is easier for the occasional painter.
I've found the edger very useful especially where there is a high ceiling. The edger can be attached to an extension pole to reach high places.
BTW, I found it better to start the edger a few inches from the edge and then bring it toward the edge as your moving it forward. This way you don't end up with a glob of paint at the start.
Also, why would you want to use an edger for painting corners if both walls are the same color?
I don't think these gadgets will put pros out of business. There are still people who just don't want to do things themselves.
With all that being said, If I hired a pro to paint my rooms and they started using one of these, I'd fire them.
I understand the appeal of these types of products if they delivered on the claims they make, but I still believe that folks would be better served if they put the time towards developing skills with a brush. I'd rather see shitty cuts with a brush than what these products do. At least you can work on getting better and aren't limited by a gimmicky products. You put it well when you said that if you hired a professional and they used one of these things, then you'd fire them.
@@SuperVassarBrothers My point is that I paint the inside of my house every 5-6 years. I do know *_how_* to cut in with a brush, but by the time I've gotten halfway decent at it, I'm done until I paint again. If I use the edger, I get decent results in less time. Are the results the same as a pro? Heck no, but the job looks better than if I did it with a brush. The learning curve with the edger is less than it is with a brush. I've used both.
This is the reason I'm looking at this. Sounds I'm in a similar situation to you. I have painted my own rooms and cut in myself. It's definitely not perfect but not absolutely awful either. If a professional had come in and done what I had I wouldn't get then again but the whole reason I'm painting myself is to save money. With one of these I'm thinking I may get similar results to doing it myself but it will save me loads of time, effort and stress. Do you think it's worth it for that? I don't have the time or patience to learn to cut in like a pro!
The Accubrushs’ ability to place it on an extension pole is the it’s main benefit. You wanna walk and ladder an entire room with your brush, have at it. The shade differences between walls and ceilings in most cases, will never be seen. Corners always require detailing. It’s a legs, angles and time saver overall.
Yeah…not sure what most cases you’re referring to. You can definitely tell the difference between the wall color, trim and ceiling when the trim and ceiling are white and you’ve got a mid tone or dark wall color. On the jobs I do, that is often the case and this product does not produce acceptable results. I also think you might be underestimating how fast you can get with a brush, but if you’re happy with the results you’re getting then keep on keeping on.
@@SuperVassarBrothers I generally use a 4” oval corona for everything. Been doing it that way for, well, for years.. Efficiency at times is also the objective. I’ve sprayed, rolled and cut miles of paint. The ball end of the device allowing it to turn to the degree of angle, created by the extension pole makes it a breeze to walk the perimeters. Hands down one of the better solutions out there. The 18” double roller with a spray shield from Australia, talk about efficiency!
I dont think those products say that they eliminate the need for a regular paint brush in some areas
The accubrush makes the most aggressive marketing claims out of all of these products. We may do another video on these types of products in the future and do a more thorough test
That sureline edger has been around for decades. I would have thought by now that they would stop making it. Getting paint on the wheels is impossible to avoid
I’m amazed it’s still around as well. 🤨
I've just ordered a edging paint brush rather then a roller they are meant to be a little better
Hand brushing is the move. Good luck!
Something about being able to cut in perfectly with a brush is so much more satisfying than using these gimicky tools. I actually enjoy cutting in, sort of get in a zone mentally while I am doing it, I'm no pro, but painted enough over the years that blue tape only comes into play when cutting in a narrow area, or up to stuff like stained wood, carpet etc. I tell new painters 1. never buy a cheap brush, 2. select the proper brushes and take care of them and they will last a typical homeowner forever, I think a great quality 2.5 or 3" sash brush is the best for amateurs. 3. practice: TAKE YOUR TIME! do a closet first, use a corner where both sides are going to get painted anyway as an area to develop cutting in skills, practice going around the trim inside the closet, if you screw up a bit, no one is ever going to see it. Most important, watch videos, I didn't have the luxury of RUclips whilst I was learning to paint, sit down and watch a few painting vids, so much good info available today!
You nailed it good sir 🫡
I've been a professional painter for 24 years, and i agree this tool is not something we would use at all. Nothing beats the good ol Brush and roller, unless you're using a sprayer of course.
Agreed good sir 🫡
@@SuperVassarBrothers I have recently started watching your videos and I honestly really enjoy them. It's always entertaining watching another professional doing what we do! Keep Up The Good Work, Sir! 💪🏾
i am a professional auto painter, so masking is a quick nothing task for me , so that's how i get perfect lines, my step daughter , who is " painting by tiffany" a professional house painter , calls me a cheater cause she can do it with a brush , no tape or screed needed there, however, if i use this thing, most af the edge comes out really good, and i go back and fix the few bad spots, as opposed to trying to make "acceptable" delineations between colors free handed with a brush, i have been known to do the edges in an entire room with a 3/8" chissel tip artist brush,,,,, soooooooooooo,,,, for a non pro house paint home owner ,i think the accu brush in most cases will do the job nicely
If it’s working for you then have at it. Lots of ways to get it done 🫡
And u still have to feather it out before u use the roller or you will see a difference in paint thickness trust me you will able to see how thick and edge is compared to the roller part
Yessir, I am not a fan. Use a good brush 🫡
I bet the instructions say you can’t use it to get around intricate corners and stuff.
It has limited uses for sure
once you get paint on the wheels, it's hell to pay. and forget about going up against a textured ceiling...bump, bump, bump, bump.
Thankfully there’s no wheels on my brush
Hello. For someone like you, who is a professional painter, these products are not as good as your skill. But, for someone like me, who struggles to get clean lines, I think they do a pretty good job. I paint only occasionally, like most homeowners.
I get it. I still maintain you can get better results with a brush and some frog tape even if you’re not a professional.
My dad loves these things, im a painter and ive told him they are crap. Doesnt listen lol... A brush does everything you need if you can use it.
I had no idea how many people liked these things until I made this video and the comments got a little spicy. I guess using a brush can be intimidating, but these things are still crap.
moral of the story , everything works better in the TV commercials than in real life
Yes indeed!
I had a costumer that wanted me to use one of them and I told them the same thing
There is no reason to use one or even try to use one in my opinion 😛
Some corners you need to touchup with brush, also I think all of the products did their job but you need to first figure out which wall to paint first and then why do you use these at the wall corners? It does not make any sense..if its the same paint then use brush or roller.
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I think you either have the ability to cut a straight line or you don't. My wife is an amateur artist. She paints with oil paints and can't paint a straight line to save her life. Lol! I, on the other hand, struggle to draw stick people. However, I can paint a straight line. Lol! When we were painting our house, she got one of the pads with wheels thingy. All I can say is I had to go behind her and fix all her cut ins. You're right they are garbage! I always caulk the ceiling line. This gives me a smooth transition line to paint. Then I cut the wall into the ceiling just a hair with paint. This enables me to paint a straight line that is technically on the ceiling, but from the floor looking up, it looks incredibly straight. I also think practice makes perfect. You also have to not be afraid of messing up. Once you get rid of the anxiety of it all, you're able to relax and just do it! Anyways ,just my 2 cents...😊
Agreed! Cutting straight lines is a skill that can be developed and improved upon like any skill.
Unless of course you have a nervous disorder that presents in a tremor. Which means, you will never get good with a brush. So you spend a bit of time learning how to use those edger's correctly and don't expect them to work in corners and other places they were not designed for. I have tried a couple and they work well enough. Did you pick up your first brush all those years ago and expect it to instantly do prefect edges!
I still maintain that most folks would be better served putting the effort in to getting brush skills. The applications for these edgers are limited even if used correctly, which is why I know of zero professionals that use them.
I find them vert useful. Don't overload them like you would a paint brush. They then do a quick and easy edge for me. Which is almost impossible for me with a brush.@@SuperVassarBrothers
The problem is that you are using white paint on a white wall to a white ceiling. We can't tell unless its wet paint.
We’ll be making another video using the accubrush and a higher contrast paint combination in the near future. My opinion of these products is still unlikely to change, mainly due to the fact that they are hot garbage. You are much better off putting in the time to develop skills with a quality brush.
“I’m going to be objective” proceeds to go at it like a bull at a gate then say they’re rubbish because they can’t get into spaces they’re quite obviously not meant for
They are indeed hot garbage but you’re welcome to give them a try.
I'm surprised that for a professional you can't make it work. I'm not a pro and I have no problem with it but I did have to use it a little bit and eventually figured out how to use it. Also I find it strange that you think these are made for pros. Most DIYers paint a couple of rooms and are satisfied with the outcome.
I take issue with how these tools are marketed. I thought I presented that clearly in the video. Particularly the Accu-brush claims to produce “professional” results. Which in my opinion it does not, nor is it capable of doing so. If I do another one of these videos I think I need to better illustrate what professional cut-ins should look like vs. what these tools can produce. I’m aware these are not for professionals, but even if you are a DIYer, I still believe you are better off putting your efforts into developing skills with a brush.
Those things suck bro..I paint too and yep I would paint circles around those contraptions as well
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The brush wins!
You’re darn skippy 🖌️
I am not a completely professional painter but I do construction on all scales from foundation and up including painting. I think what he was trying to say is you can use a brush and eventually get good . A as opposed to the pad where your skill level will never improve and you will be frustrated the entire time you use it. There's no room for improvement. I think this was designed for lazy people that don't want to put the effort in to learning a skill that will will take time and practice to get good.can the pad work. Yes. Can you get better and better. I think not. I can cut in a entire room with a brush in the time it takes people to figure out how to cut in one angle. Again I'm not a pro painter either. You don't want to be all frustrated in front of a client trying to use a pad. If it's not broke don't fix it. Stick to the basics. Time is 💰 money and I make more using a brush. Thank you for the video!
You are most welcome and I agree with your assessment! 🫡
Using white on white paint is really had to discern where you did now and earlier.
I hear yah. That was a light blue going on top of beige but I get your point
They look like they did a decent job to me. U can take ur brush a detail 🤷🏾♂️
You are more than welcome to give them a try.
I know you're a professional, but I don't know why you would try to cut in a corner of two walls. The only time you would do that is if one wall was a different color. As far as the pad cutting in around the window they're not really designed for windows with a sill because of the different shape at the bottom. there more designed for perfectly Square trim around windows. Meaning there's no sill at the bottom.
The goal of cutting in is to outline the walls so you’re covering areas that can’t be reached by the roller. Every crew I know of cuts in inside corners (perhaps there are some that don’t). You can get the roller pretty close on inside corners but if you mush it all the way in, then the texturing tends to look like garbage.
You’re making my point about the pads. They have extremely limited application and conditions have to be ideal for them to perform well. If you put in the time to get decent with a brush then that skill is far more scaleable to a wide variety of applications and you’ll end up with better results.
@@SuperVassarBrothers I guess the point I was trying to make about the inside corners of the walls is someone wouldn't necessarily use that edging pad for that, they would just fill it in with the brush. The edging pads seems like they do a decent job for the average DIY'R, I had high hopes for that one with the roller but when I saw that it doesn't get into the corners, it's kind of useless.
I hate when people call themselves a professional but then make a terrible video that doesn't show any professionalism at all I'm not a professional painter but I am a 30-year contractor I do paint and I don't care either way if I use the trimmer or brush it's still going to be finished and it doesn't cost much those things cost about $2 and they work pretty good it's a whole lot faster than using a brush you don't want to pay you on the wheels do one corner at a time
If it’s working for you then have at it 🫡
This is not the how to edging video I was looking for
well keep looking I guess
Did not use contrasting colors to show us the results. Just runs a line and says "its hot garbage". LOL.
I stand by that. I’ll make it easier to see on the next one. The camera did not pick up the contrast well on this one, but these products are still hot garbage.
Why use the pad on hhe vertical corners. Dont need it. . Run a brush down the corner so you have an inch on either side painted then free hand your roller.. the pads might work where you at the ceiling or casing.. but he is 100% correct.. by using a brush you will grt better in the skills.. with the pad you are limited to the limitions of the pad.
The roller thing is a disaster
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Bro it’s not meant to do the corners it’s meant for people who can’t paint to do ceilings and around flat trim I guess
I get it. I’m not the target end user
@@SuperVassarBrothers ya garbage product lol I never even thought to try it thanks for making the video so I didn’t have to buy it for shits n giggles
Wooster shortcut.
Yes indeed. Brushes are better
glad someone proved what we all knew ..... just gimmicky junk really .......
Brush skills for the win
your expectarions about the acrubrush were wrong.
Well I was going off what it claimed to do on the box. “Professional” results. I politely disagree and I maintain that there’s a whole slew of reasons that painters don’t use them.
Those things are for amateur , nothing cut in like the paint brush, eg. wooster extra firm.
You nailed it 🤙
Oh nice white paint with white paint. Dont want to get whote paint on my white paint.
The paint was grey. On The Rocks if memory serves. I get your point though. I’ve since upgraded my cameras so that they do a better job of picking up the contrast between paints. Either way, the accubrush is still a big ol’ poopie fart.
You just didn't know how to use a shur-line edger usually it's supposed to be just for the long runs next to the ceiling and floor board I must have used that for over 30 years and there's old tricks to it and there's nothing better you started it too close to your line you want us to be about a foot away or 6in and just faded right into where you're working and you're not supposed to really do corners get right next to the corner but don't try to overdo it
It’s still a hard pass.
Glad I didn't buy that crap. Thats why I brush everything in with the Great purdy!
Good move :)
C`mon man i had to cut in a BLUE wall with a white ceiling. You should have used a beige paint then we could tell.
We’ll be doing another video with a higher contrasting paint in the future. The color difference actually was significant, but the camera didn’t pick it up.
The roller works sometimes but no one has come up with a better cutting roller the square ones are crap don't even waste your time
Brush skills are the move