5 Axis Machining Compilation- Highlights!!!
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2016
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A highlight video I put together of some of my work. Software is Gibbscam, machines are Haas UMC750 and VF6 with a TR310.
Song is called Brothers in Arms by Tom Holkenborg 
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This is by far the best machining on youtube. Music and editing is just spot on. Also motivational, looking forward to learn some 5 axis in the future. Great work :)
this is just like someone that knows everything about their car...its always a joy to watch someone that you call a master at work
I just got an old Fadal which is a huge step up from my g0704 that we made 3 axis cnc. So cool watching this. Thanks for taking the time to make. Subscribed
Jordan hart, you got one more fan here. Absolutely loved your programming job !
Thank you! I appreciate it
Awesome!
Great machining and Gibbs skills.
Just love it!
Thanks man! Much appreciated
Wow that is just mindblowing. Amazing.
Insane skills. Beautiful work.
This just gave me chills.... Superb work mate.
Thank you! I'm always trying to get around to making more videos. Eventually it'll happen.
i am working on 5axis for 15yrs. so far most clean job i have ever seen.
Freaking fantastic work man! I'm speechless!
Thanks man! First video in four years going up Tomorrow! Hopefully I still got it lol
Really nice cuts my friend! It's also obvious how much time you spent filming and editing the video - it's a great demonstration for 5ax capabilities. I'll be sure to share.
Wow, I don't know how I missed this comment! Your website (zdspb) was a huge inspiration to me becoming a machinist. I still remember back in 2004 going on your website for tech tips on my shocker. Haha then in 2005 when I was 13 dremmeling out ion mods in my garage. What an honor to have an absolute legend comment on my video!
Yea two greats. Thats why i like titan pushing the academy. So much talent, so little oppressed here for manufacturing. But we are bringing it back.
Wow Jordan! This video is so cool! Awesome job. Just came across this while searching 5 axis videos. - Sarah
Thanks Sarah! I'll be uploading a new video tonight so stay posted. Oh and I'll be looking forward to trying out some of your vices, you guys have some pretty awesome videos out yourselves.
Thanks!!! I'm working on getting some more up soon as well : ) I'll check out your video when it goes live. : )
That is AWSOME!! one day helpfully!! Thanks for sharing!!
Cool as hell! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you!
Beautiful work man.
Thanks my man!
Never new cnc was so dramatic. HIIIIGHLANDER!!!! On a serious note, cool machine and nice filming/editing!
awesome work man
Beautiful !
Beautiful.
Great GibbsCam, very compliment Jordan!
Thank you!
Jordan Hart
Another compliments!
Can I make a one little ask ?
Thank you
Holy hell you are a bad man! Great job.
jsmith0802 Hell yeah thanks man!
Great edit. Music was perfect, too.
Thanks! I use adobe Premiere Pro, along with Camtasia for the screen capture. I'm definitely a little rough around the edges but I appreciate it bro!
bro, that was epic
Very cool parts & impressive programming. We use gibbs and just ordered our first UMC750 in december. Have been doing 4ax stuff on VMC's forever but excited about the added dimension.
Awesome! Yeah getting that extra axis really opens up a lot of possibilities for both more complex workpieces and added efficiency for existing ones. Gibbscam is an excellent software and I really do love the interface, but be very careful with the post processor. I finally have ours to a place where I'm happy with it, but it has taken about two years and a lot of patience. Gibbs has a quick turnaround on post edits, but the stock post was mildly terrifying to run. I would suggest not using TCP (Tool Center Point) on multiaxis simultaneous toolpath (the moduleworks suite). Use G93 inverse time feedrate for these things. G234 mode (TCP) on the UMC is a joke, and you will crash your machine from no error of your own. If you are running 3+2 you should be fine with G254 (Dynamic Offset). Also be very careful of the Master Clearance plane 1. (The clearance plane you enter in the dialogue box where the stock size is). Since this number is not checked in any rendering or simulation there can be collisions that are uncheckable until you post. Take your time learning all the quirks and you should be fine. Don't rush anything for the first few months. Good Luck!
Thanks for the pointers. Our current applications are mostly going to be 3+2 at least to get started. Our skid of Lang toys came in today.
Remember me as the single soul who loved the way you filmed and edited it! Very well done.
Edgecam and a Spinner U1520 is my daily life but due to company licences I miss out on these 5 axis challenges, so jealous.
Thanks my man! It means a lot. I'm going to start on a few more videos but I'm going to try and give them a more cinematic feel, from reverse engineering (CAD), to programming and machining. Definitely going to need to step up my editing skills to achieve that. That spinner looks like a beast though! If you ever get the chance to take on 5 axis I highly recommend it. It adds so much more depth to the challenge of programming and also opens a lot of possibilities for optimization and just freedom to do what you want.
how do you like your spinner u1520? my firm is about to order one
I love it, it has a quick toolchange. The downside is the "rustlike" adhesive that accumulates on my HSK holders.
I'm clean and so is my toolbox but somehow I keep on cleaning the holders. All my oil specs are respected and lived by.
A highspeed milling machine and heavy duty milling will cause the sheetmetal plates to comes of.
We're switching from Edgecam 2013R2 to Edgecam 2017R1 next week and also means I'm losing my Part Modeler License which is a bloody shame.
All my parametric models useless.
Can anyone tell me if SpaceClaim is a good substitute, because that's what I have to work with.
Wow. It’s just pure excellence. Not sure what else to say.
Thanks man, I love hearing that
That is one amazing machine
After watching this I’ve decided that I want my gravestone to be in rad 5-axis hard-anodized 6061.
Haha you should go with grade 2 titanium. It would last for millennia
Jordan Hart if you say so!
Dope video,keep making more content
Thanks, learning Cinema 4D, Blackmagic Fusion and Resolve right now. Stepping up my mograph/vfx game and learning some nodal based compositing to start making some more artistic work. 3-4 months before my next video
I’ve been using Gibbs for 13 years never have the chance to use 5th axis though! Looks exciting!
Gibbs 5 axis is the moduleworks suite, it's pretty solid! If you do get into it I would read the manual through cover to cover a few times to familiarize yourself with the functionality, it's a very detailed manual. Not the most exhilarating reading but you will learn fast. Feel free to ask me any questions if you do get into it.
Awesomeness!
Very nice video! :)
Awesome work,wish I had half your expertise.
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100,000 views, thanks and feel free to ask any questions you may have. The comment section is getting pretty long but I'll do my best to answer any technical questions
"CNC takes no skill, you are just a button pusher" - Old grumpy guy doing 3 op parts on a bridgeport.
At the end of the day it's buttons all the way down.
Wow, I wish I had your mad skills, I'm still learning 5-axis capabilities!
Thanks my man! I'd highly recommend reading Karlo Apro's book "Secrets of 5 Axis Machining." Feel free to hit me up if you ever want advice. My Linkedin is linked into my google profile
Awesome video!
Thank you! Using your software right now at Plethora on our Matsuura MX520. Also, check out the Langills CNC video. Some good shots that I took there of CAMplete as well.
Very impressive!
Thank you! I just put out a new video which covers the hoverboard section in a more cinematic style. If you like this one you should check it out!
Hi Jordan. How did you set up your Gibbs/Post so that it doesn't wind up the B-Axis so high?... do you ever use G92?.... our Gibbs support/post maintainer insisted on using G92 to do a 'soft' unwind but I keep reading on forums that there are better ways to do this.(if this makes sense).
Good job!
Impressive!
Excelente Trabajo y Precisión, espero poder hacer piezas tan complejas como esta, de momento sera en una escala menor, en cuanto termine de fabricar mi nueva CNC 5 axis :D
You got it man! One step at a time, just be careful and keep building your skills!
holy cow, nice :-)
Thank you! I'm posting more soon
very good job
this 5axis module same mastercam X
You're correct, they're both licensed to Mcam and Gibbs by a German company called Moduleworks.
300,000 views! Haha you guys like watching metal cut harder metal as much as I like making metal cut harder metal. Thanks everyone!
wao, fantastic.
40,000 views! Thanks everyone
Very cool skills and great video presentation. Thanks for produceing!
Great filming
Thanks man
Epic
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wow im speechless...just started gibbscam basic mill training!!! what you are doing is above and beyond my comprehension...hopefully one day I can get to your level..btw do you know of any tutorial that i can use to practice drawing with gibbscam on?
Thank you! It took a few years to get here but well worth the time. As far as drawing, if you have access to the gibbscam online training videos (available for free to anyone with current maintenance) the video on drawing is pretty good. If you don't there is a manual available on geometry creation from lulu.com (www.lulu.com/shop/3d-systems-gibbscam/geometry-creation-color/paperback/product-22586835.html). Make sure you buy the color one! Why they even make black and white is beyond me. And if you want to read the manual without buying it they are available within the software under the file path Help_Contents_Geometry Creation
Hi Jordan i really want to learn Gibbscam 5axis software , do you have any information about it ?
What coolant are you running?
Curious as to how long it took to program that batwing looking part. I run Mastercam and I like to get ideas on how long other software takes to program.
Spencer Fox Hard to get an exact time but 20 hrs ballpark. Lots of live 5 on that one
insane part and video. One Question: What did you do at 2:20? design the Part or was is necessary for programming
Thank you! It was for programming. I extended the vertical radii outward (to the sides) to get some overlap in the toolpath. This is for smooth cleanup on the transitions of the radii which were machined with vertical toolpath strokes, and the sides of the walls which were machined with a SWARF style toolpath. The swarf toolpath used a much larger cutter than what those small radii would allow so to get full cleanup on the finished surface while having a fast cycle time it was necessary to create these new surfaces. You can't tell in the software but this part is massive, an architectural mold made by a robotic arm.
i wanna cryyyyyy 😭😭😭
Программист от бога!!!
viva la precision ^^
This must be how Aliens make their Flying Saucers .........Amazing .
The aliens made me sign an NDA so no comment
Yup, that’s how we do it!¡¡!
dang
Thanks, just getting back into the video editing scene. Hopefully I'll have a new project posted up in early spring.
@@JordanHart5Axis looking forward to that! Very impressive video
What is the software you are using?
Now at 441k views. Sweet!
Hi Jordan and great videos. I'm a big fan of CNC machining. Question: Are we allowed to use your videos to show others the power of CNC machining? I do not want to infringe on any copyright that you may have on them. Thanks!
No problem, feel free to. The more exposure of CNC machining the better.
Great thank you Jordan and keep up the great work!
Wildly impressive! I might have missed the comment, but what is that part exactly?
Thank you ! The part in the end is a jet powered platform. A hoverboard if you will. There are a lot of pictures on instagram under the account afterburn_aerospace.
as somebody who has ocd I had a really shitty day today mainly because of my ocd, and this video helped me a ton. BTW I love the soundtrack. was it the soundtrack from Mad Max?
Glad it was able to help you out! It is the Mad Max soundtrack, the song is called "Brothers in Arms." That whole soundtrack is good though, artist is Tom Holkenborg!
I almost shit myself only from watching this XD
Gibbscam nice" I use that software to really helpful
Yeah, it's good software once you get used to it.
David Myers, Val--Matic. I get my 6 axis SHW in 2 months. Cannot wait. This video is exceptional. Your work is even better. Threw out Creo NC (warning to anyone who is considering Creo: started in ProMan in 1994 doing 5 axis simultaneous with a Nikken table when PTC said it could not do it. Creo NC is absolute garbage) Decided to go with Mastercam. Are we having fun...damn straight.
I'm running Gibbs so we're both running the moduleworks 5 axis suite. Pretty good software for live 5!
please teach me this advance techniques of programming...@jordan
Looks good Jordan, impressive machining!
I basicly do the same every day, just as a Edgecam reseller in Denmark. - And do not have your video skills!
Since Edgecam uses the same 5 axis suite that Gibbscam does it's probably almost exactly the same isn't it? I wish our reseller had multiaxis skills to teach me when I was getting started! You must be in high demand.
The five axis module is the same, bought by Moduleworks - such as Gibbs and Mastercam, and a couple more.
We need to have multiaxis skills at our company, the customers get more and more complex machines and parts. So we need to be sharp.
Regarding high demand, let's say that im not scared of being without a job :)
Wow, on point with the Moduleworks response! I love when CAM companies try to brand themselves as having better 5 axis simultaneous capabilities when most of them are running the exact same algorithms. Excluding NX, Hypermill and Powermill the 5 axis suite of all the major players is largely identical. Your customers are lucky to have someone as knowledgeable as yourself.
There's not too many good live 5 guys in my area so yeah, finding a job for us is hardly a chore haha.
No need to try to be special, if you already have something that works good - let it be :)
I don't know much about Gibbs, but i know that when it comes to the Five axis, i can do it just as good as i can Edgecam ;)
The biggest issue today is the Postprocessors.. Everyone is different, even if the machines are the same :)
Which always drives me crazy because the APT output of the software is more or less identical. That's why post processing simulation suites such as icam and camplete can postprocess between software interchangeably. We were actually just looking into camplete as a possible G-code and simulation solution for the UMC750 since they just released support for that machine. You're right though, it's all about the post at this point in time.
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wow, those are some long reaches
ocramer205 Yeah, it gets pretty intense when you need 7" in holder and 3" in stickout from a .25" ball endmill. Those tapered ball endmills are crazy rigid though, I rarely get chatter with them even running at 10,000 rpm on those setups. Harvey 2 flute alu geometry, .375" shank .25" ball
Hey Jordan. I am a Service Tech for Haas. I have to say, that is some of the most impressive work I have seen a UMC used for!!! Where is you shop located?
Thanks Chris, I appreciate it! The shop I was working at when I shot this was Langills Machine in Sacramento, CA. Excellent shop.
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looking at both of these machines for our shop... how is the Z height with the VF6 and 310 combo?
Z height clearance with the VF6 and 310 is not good. I would go with a UMC750 over this combo, but it will not be as rigid as the VF6/310. You can cut hard metals on a UMC750 with lighter cuts. I would avoid the VF6/310, haha but if you like to live dangerously it will do a pretty good job.
@@JordanHart5Axis thanks a ton for the heads up!
@@layinrockers10 No prob!
@@JordanHart5Axis we are looking at the 750 now... whats the biggest part you put on it? they are worried about work envelope.
@@layinrockers10 I'm not sure exactly what the biggest part I've put on a 750 is in inches, but I've worked up to the edges of the travel. It's got a really nice work envelope. One thing I would note on the 750 is that the X travel is not centered on the table, so if you're going to go bigger than the table you might not be able to machine around X+. If you're going to be machining big parts maybe the UMC1000 would be better? I've never ran it but it should be very similar to the 750, just bigger.
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Are you building Ironman's suit?
Hellou from Russua =)
No coolant?
Which is the Software name that you'vs used for programming?
This is gibbscam v12, although I do all fixture and part design in solidworks.
@@JordanHart5Axis I will surely collaborate with you in future...soon 😁
Can you be my instructor? Please. I do positional 5 axis, I wish I could nail at least 1 true 5 axis program like these.
Is powermill 2019 machining 5 axis?
This is gibbscam V12. Powermill is also an excellent software though
Which software is used for machining?
Gibbscam
Thanks for the reply :)
You got it!
Wow ...
exact same set up for us where I work, Machines and software. only problem is that our Gibbs support guys suck. they usually figure it out during our goto meetings when I could've done the same. We recently added the 5 axis module and I desperately want training on it already lol
I highly recommend reading the Karlo Apro book "secrets of 5 axis machining." Also, read the manual over a few times, but make sure to get the color version (if you get a hard copy). It's easily the highest quality manual offered by gibbs! If you want help from me you can hit me up on linkedin by following the link in the description.
Jordan Hart I will definitely check that out. I have been pushing my boss to accept more work that would need 5-axis programming. I love the challenge. Right now we mostly use the 4+1 or 3+2 method... I wrote a custom macro that will allow us to use the vf6-tr similar to the UMC DWO feature with G254. It has saved use so much time and we don't have to re-post proven programs to run it again with possibly a different chuck that would place the part closer or further from the machines zero point rotation . The macro takes care of all the offsets for each A and B rotation for us... Parts are more accurate too
Jordan Hart Would it be too much to ask for your Gibbs Mdd for both machines? Haas sent me stl files for them but it's such dirty geometry
That sounds like a beastly macro! To be honest I don't even use G254 anymore. Mostly because I use lots of live 5 (simultaneous) and don't like using G234 (which is a nightmare). Since G93 for live 5 only works off the zero point rotation I just run everything based on that (rtcp).
Jordan Hart Makes sense. I haven't used G234 yet myself except for a demo when they did a software update. The macro is actually very simple... once I figured out the math behind it. I think it's less than 50 lines long
what type of coolant is this on 03:15 ?????...I have never seen this before
It's Castrol coolant with blue dye added
whats the reason? nice job! thnx for the info.
I think we do it to help check the concentration on the refractometer, however it's something our foreman has been doing forever so I couldn't tell you the exact reason. Probably just habit, the coolant is naturally clear.
they colored it blue so it looks cool you know :)
Hey I'm looking to get a part milled. Are you interested in taking a look at the job?
I don't own a machine shop, but send a quote to Langills machine shop and they'll take care of you
Is there no coolant because you're just trying to show what it's doing? None of these cnc videos have coolant on? Am I just using old flow coolant machines? Is there a mist or air blast I'm not seeing? Cause you can't cut aluminum fast without getting chips stuck to tool.
Yeah, I just turn the coolant off briefly to capture the shots I need. Otherwise I've got flood and through spindle coolant on constantly
Damn
Where's your safety glasses?
;)
The soundtrack reminds me of Mad Max : Fury Road.
It is, title is in the description
All the axis and programming become academic... the clever stuff is gettting the tool geometry right for seamless blending and correct fillets with no polishing and producing the firms required on the planning!
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What kind of tolerances were held?
In general I'm at +-0.005", however a lot of the surfacing work is at +-0.002". Most of the video is sped up to 2-3x speed so it looks much faster than it really was. Of course a higher end 5 axis machine could have machined these much faster, however the UMC750 is quite limited in rotary axis speed and accuracy. So I sped the footage up to be a little more exciting.
Jordan Hart Very cool! I work on 3 axis but would love to learn rotary. Are you self taught?
I went through an apprentice program at Langills General Machine, which was a great learning experience for me. So for machining fundamentals I was not self taught. However, for the complex multiaxis simultaneous here I would say that I taught myself most of that. Gibbscam had good manuals for the Moduleworks 5 axis suite, so I memorized those front to back. I would recommend buying the book "Secrets of 5 Axis Machining" by Karlo Apro. Excellent book to start learning 5 axis fundamentals, and then do your best to get on a multiaxis machine and start hammering CAM knowledge. It always goes faster if you can find yourself a good mentor.
Long dong strategies. Wow. Applause but that impeller had a tiny nick.
Good eyes! It was from roughing (deflection). But that wasn't bad for the first one, I fixed it for the rest. You must be a machinist!
Not me. My dad was a millwright and i went to ghetto school no place to get educated. I used to make babbitts and chase by ha d when i was 12. Built a few engines and made some stuff but. Am gonna buy a hass 5 axis as a hobby. I have some ideas lets see what happens. I have a stronger then most fundamental education from a ww2 vet old generation millwright. Us steel.
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Huh?
My OCD is happy .
Always a primary concern, you need to keep the mind satisfied.
Damn. Remove this video from youtube. Its Porn... 😁 Jokes apart, you have another fan jordan hart. Lots of love from India.
Price how???