‘Improving’ Rebel Moon Part 2: The Scargiver | Movie Breakdown
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- Опубликовано: 24 апр 2024
- I watched Rebel Moon Part 2 again last night, making that my second viewing and I have realised I have some more issues with it. In my review, I gave the movie an 8/10 but that has dropped since watching it again and in my previous video for rebel Moon, I mentioned some of my issues I had with the film but today I want to go more in depth with some new issues I have with the film. Now don’t worry I’m not here to just bash the movie or blindly praise it, I am just explaining my key issues with the film and providing how I would do certain specific moments differently. This is basically going to be a movie breakdown, discussing the scenes I liked and the scenes I would change or expand upon.
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I think If Snyder does make more Rebel Moon he should bring on different writers because even though they've written some solid stuff like the John Wick movies, they are not the right choice for this universe.
Ray Fisher definitely was wasted. That's my biggest complaint.
@orhanamin1347 you're mad cuz I wish he had more screen time and lines? 🤨
@@orhanamin1347 he has 2 seconds of screentime in this
@@orhanamin1347the person agreed with you lmao
Ray Fisher got killed off too soon and his death wasn’t really impactful. Kinda comes off as comedic. He was kinda wasted.
@@orhanamin1347EXACTLY, my favorite scene from him was when he… when.. he uh he… hold on
This movie should have been a TV series....
Thanks! I heard this was #1 on Netflix internationally and Part 1 is back in the top 10.
I enjoyed part 2. I didn't even look at part 2 with an eye of scrutiny. I simply enjoyed it for what it was.
However, after having listened to your new critique of the film and the suggestions you might add, I have to say, I agree. I really like your suggestions, and it definitely would have added a lot to the film.
That said, I don't know that I would have reduced the score as much as you did. Otherwise, I really rather enjoyed your analysis. 👍 -OG
Part 1´s novel filled the gaps extremely well and only the backstory for Noble and more so his subordinate are book original. The cut down of an hour cost us characterizations, time to breathe and a timeline that makes more sense. The villages finding the ship happens in Part 1´s DC for example and not this weird 5 days timeline. Oh well. The real films are coming.
The fundamental change to save this franchise is the farm girl should've went with them in part one. That's it. You have an audience surrogate for everything to be explained to. Kora is a troubled mentor.
Isn't that what Gunnar's character was for?
Scargiver is kinda dumb. Not the movie but the name. I mean you’re at war anyone and anything can give you a scar. It doesn’t make sense. Even Kora has scars. So maybe her name could’ve been the Heretic, the King Slayer, or the Cursed Reaper. Those sound way cooler than Scargiver.
😂 the funny thing is what I learn is the director's cuts of the movies part 1 and part 2 both movies is over 3 hours each so that means both director's cuts together is 6 hours long
And also they are alternate takes characters and dialogue and moments Zack he said the directors cuts are basically alternate universes of the movies and again I understand you are breaking down the movies you are watching right now at least everyone should wait for the the complete full movies are out
@@lordtavioushayes8156 Why should people wait for the extended director's cut? Netflix released these versions with Zack Snyder's full approval.
Agree with everything you said honestly, let's see how the director's cuts turn out
My problem with Snyder's whole "Just wait! There's a director's cut waiting in the wings that's so much better!" approach, is that he was given full creative control here from day one.
There were no aliens in Part 2 :(
There is one. He's one of the resistant pilots at the end.
Actually everyone there is an alien 😅😅
@@fabianGrid give me nonhumans
It's gonna be rough ending part 2 on a cliffhanger with the poor reception to these movies.
Nice. Some good ideas. The characters definitely need to be strengthened.
I loved it TBH. Just needs to expand on the plot a bit.
I'm all excited and hyped for REBEL MOON 2,3
Are you gonna make video about Twilight of the gods? This looks awesome do far!
An adaptation of the House of the Bloodaxe comic books might be a good idea. More of Ray Fisher’s character would be interesting, imo.
ZSJL and ZSJL 2,3 is a masterpiece and a global phenomenon
Snyder's garbageverse is already forgotten
I loved the movies but I'm agree with most of what you have said here! Good job!
Thank you my friend.
You are so welcome!
I'm shocked you lowered your rating. That's rare insight many would be willing to do
I know in my heart ❤REBEL MOON 123 is exciting entertaining Brilliant extremely impressive full of excitement and a Masterpiece and a global phenomenon Epic
I don't think we need to over analyse these PG-13 versions too much to be honest. Everyone who knew about #RebelMoon, before it's release, has known that extended director's cuts have been planned from the very start - even Zack Snyder haters. Now, depending on how people feel about this (annoying) release strategy; Rebel Moon in general; ZS having director's cuts for most of his films; or even ZS himself (for incomprehensible reasons), knew director's cuts were coming, so personally I don't really think we can properly judge this new franchise until we get the intented product. Even with both these versions of Part 1 and 2, we can see that at least three scenes are missing from the original trailer. Some of the issues mentioned in this video are for parts in the film where it feels like scenes have been cut. People are entitled to their opinions, but some of the hate these films are getting is completely unwarranted. In this comment thread as well, some commenters are calling it an "abomination." Really??? The CGI/special effects are pretty good; the overall story is fine; the writing/dialogue is okay apart from a couple exposition dumps. Imagine if people banged on as much about other films. Not talking about you Will, but man, 'you' used to not like something, and moved on, now, people don't like something, and it becomes their personality, especially in regards to Zack Snyder. A lot of these haters don't even realise that they are the ones who helped turned ZS into a brand name. Look forward to your review on the director's cuts.
My favorite Characters in REBEL MOON 1 is NEMESIS GENERAL TITUS DARREN BLOODAXE
I don't know what rebel moon you watched but when did Aris get a call that Noble is alive ?
You gave this movie too much credit!
Chill out everyone!!! This is the Netflix PG version. Zack himself, articles and the other cast say that the R-rated version is a completely different movie, not an extended version, but a different movie with its own universe in it. The PG version isn't Zacks version so chill out.
My favorite Characters in REBEL MOON 2 is JIMMY KORA DEVRA BLOODAXE
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Maybe Rebel Moon would have worked better as an anthology movie series
Following the various characters and their stories in the universe
The thing connecting them all together is their mutual dislike and hatred of the empire
One thing is for sure these movies definitely needed a writing team to write each film and to keep Zack Snyder out of the writers room.
I think that would have been a great idea
This is probably the best comment I’ve seen on this movie
@@isaaconny121
Especially since Rebel Moon itself was inspired by the french magazines/comics
Heavy Metal/Metal Hurlant.
@@OurMovieNews
Rebel Moon is basically Zack Snyder's tribute to French magazines/comics Metal Hurlant/Heavy Metal.
@@OurMovieNews
Zack Snyder's inspiration for Sucker Punch and Rebel Moon was from Heavy Metal Magazine.
It's unfortunate that all the reviews and press are for two movies that Zack never wanted to make. The PG-13 cuts were good but I also have problems with it. It's hard to judge until we see the real vision he has in mind
It was his idea to release these PG-13 versions first…. Therefore, the epically flawed movies are still his fault…
@@mothermakeup7481 It was the only way to make the directors cuts possible. He wrote a 200 something page script and Netflix wanted him to take out so much and change the rating that he made them a deal to where if he made the family version for Netflix, then he could make his directors cuts without any supervision and keep his original script. He has said that the PG-3 cut is practically a parallel universe because they are so different. But again it's tough to judge since we haven't seen them yet
These versions were released with Zack Snyder's full approval. This isn't a WB situation at all. Stop making excuses for that hack.
@@secondsonproductions3145 Netflix has no propblem with R rated content and long runtimes, Sndyer's fault for being so pretentious.
The eternal teenager and sweet lamb Sofia as a stormtrooper is a funny joke!👍😘🐑🍑🤣🤣🤣
"the grain"🤤
You're asking for more of the boring scenes? The wheat scene was like 20 minutes of them doing nothing but them harvesting wheat in slow motion. That shit needs to be like a 40 seconds montage
Guess you didn't listen to what I actually said
Great video! I think Rebel Moon has potential to be a great movie, just too many issues here and there dragging it down to ok-good level
Thank you!
I loved REBEL MOON 1
Needed to be longer movie to make sense of some of it
This movie was thrash..nothing can save it
I agree 1000%. The lack of character building is a giant obstacle for this movie being anywhere near great in status. It’s a cool universe he’s created but there’s just so much meat being left on the bone here. The timing was also off. You hit the nail on the head with the air support suggestion. That should’ve been earlier and had more of a function other than just shooting down other air crafts. Ray Fischers character definitely shouldn’t have been killed off. I didn’t like it in the first movie and really disliked it in the 2nd. I’m actually quite disappointed with this movie. I really like the universe he’s created and Noble is a dynamite villian as is what we’ve seen of Bellasarious but the execution was a complete miss in my opinion and Zack really needs to be reigned in and course corrected or this universe he’s trying to build into 5 or 6 movies is DOA. I’m baffled with the lack of character backstories and understanding of who they really were. What happened with what he did in Man of Steel?
The main problem with this movie IMO is the editing, it's as if i was watching 10 different movies and now Snyder says that the Director cut is totally different from this one. So what was the point of this. I still enjoyed the movie though but could have been better....
Ray Fisher should've been the male lead in this movie honestly hopefully we get bloodaxe spinoff with him cleopatra coleman and elise duffy
I like this video
I'm Not Going to Watch this PG 13 Version.
I'm waiting for Director's Cut.
Is this a dc channel or zack snyder ??
Dc and rebel moon channel
I really really love harvest wheat scene.
It looks like The Gleaners and beautiful.
I thought the first movie was way better.
To be fair Rebel Moon's biggest inspiration comes from the French magazines Heavy Metal and Metal Hurlant
The problem is those stories were all anthologies and had talented writers on each story.
No matter how much you try, you can't improve that crap.
Unfortunately yes.
You gave it 8/10? LOL
Yeah I really enjoyed it.
making this pg 13 at release was a mistake
R rated doesn't fix lack of compelling story, characters.
You can thank Netflix for that.
@@TheBlond49Snyder says the director's cut is different from the Pg-13, we'll see.
@@TheBlond49 but extra Scene does.
@@richiexp2 why the hell he doing this.....
Next time If a Snyder Movie Release , People will be always skeptical about its Director's cit
How to say a movie is 🗑️ without saying a movie is trash.
America 😂
Guess you didn't listen to what I actually said.
@@OurMovieNews I absolutely did.
#RebelMoon
You basically said nothing new. You just repeated what everyone is nit picking about.
That’s a bad thing how?
@@aaroneclipse514 when did I say it’s a bad thing.
@@CaptainSalvi Your tone and the way you phrased the sentence indicated it was bad.
@@aaroneclipse514 my tone? 😂 so you can see me behind a screen cause I’m pretty calm when I said that. I was pointing out that he saying what everyone is saying and I assumed he was going to say something no one has said yet
@@CaptainSalvi just because everyone says it actually add more credibility...
This movie was thrash...an abomination
No director's cut gonna fix a movie written like that hopefully Snyder twilight of the gods better than this horrible two movies
His Twilight of The Gods series looks cool.. the animation at least - as long as he isn’t writing - he should be good.
8 out of 10? Woof.
Yeah I really enjoyed it.
@@OurMovieNews I do respect that it seems like you're not a biased Snyder fan who is actively rooting against James Gunn, I really appreciate that. But still, I think you were primed to always like these movies no matter how bad they were. And they are truly bad films. To each their own, though.
@@orhanamin1347 lol keep telling yourself that, pal. Everyone except for your teeny tiny group is excited for Gunn's new DC.
@@orhanamin1347 that a way to represent your base. And you wonder why y'all are the butt of every joke.
I hope Snyder will listen to us, fans this time and focus on writing Aspects
That's precisely Snyder's problem, he listens to his cult and bunch of yes men, instead of actual criticisms.
I heard that he has already begun to write Rebel Moon 3, so I doubt that, but he really shouldn't be writing this anymore...
Aaron Grifter Fisher channel is the worst channel on RUclips. A certifiable liar😂😂
why are you so shallow? i get you being delusional because that goes without saying with any snyderfan, with all your "IDEAS" i think you should just watch movies made by focus groups
8/10 … wow. How?
Yeah I really enjoyed it.
@@OurMovieNews clearly.
👍
Great fair unbiased breakdown
Cheers Ben
I'm sorry bro but the rebel moon is terrible. 😔