@@claudimerro Lovely z680 and then z906 now.. Going to build and connect AE-9 Soundcard optical.. Hope it will get the power of these speakers will be in full use.. I have replaced the company wires to 16 guage wires for 16 x 20 size .. Going to listen to mp3 & FLAC with Klite Media player and , Blurays rips and Blurays with POWERDVD 12... will use external ASUS Bluray drive to watch the movie.,..
My z906s have started to play up today 😢. They are 1 month away from 11 years old so they have had a good run. I love them so much I've ordered a new set of them. So glad they still produce them. Heres to the next 11 years.
Really good 10 year review. Nobody gives a review that is 10 yrs long… but I am super happy to hear that you did it… These days it has been so crazy that long term review is about 6 months giving a fake impression that people keep changing gadgets every 6 months to a year… but you did right by truly reflecting real consumers who are looking for real value for money and looking for real long term durability.
Marcus, I still have mine for over 8 years now, my son still has his for over 9 years and last year I bought my Daughter a set for her TV. Absolutely NO complaints, No issues. Several inputs from RCA to Toslink and more ways (as you pointed out) to change on the control module. I forgot how many watts these speakers are, but they will rattle the windows. LOL Ohh, almost forgot, These are also THX, Dolby Digital and DTS Digital Certified!!!!!!!
Still using mine. I watch TONs of films, play video games all the time, and every couple weeks a long music session. The system is fantastic across all uses. As audiophiles will rightly say though, no system-in-a-box PC audio system is top level. You need satellites that are larger than considered convenient. The 906s lack in certain ranges. Its simplicity in setup/use and space saving is worth the tradeoffs. I have an unconventional PC setup which doesn't use a desk, so surface space is at a premium.
An excellent summation of ownership of this great system over ten years, thank you. I too have owned a Z906 for a similar duration with no complaints. This remains probably the best Logitech system and perhaps even the best over all brands. What does stand out in particular is the multiple inputs feature, apparently unmatched by anything else. However, I have been waiting for some years now for an upgrade to this premier Logitech product that would include the addition of Bluetooth (eg. receiving from an iPhone etc, and transmitting to Bluetooth headphones) and some improvements to the quality and features of the remote control unit, for example, individual buttons for each of the inputs (rather than having to scroll through all of them). And maybe even a smart phone app controller for the system? 🙂
Crazy to think that this thing is 10+ years old now. Still pretty much the best budget 5.1 setup. Logitech did really well and frankly, there's not much they can upgrade to make an updated version lol
They could try and implement HDMI for the most up to date codecs. Dolby Digital and DTS is definitely serviceable as is and is a giant bang for the buck but I think that's the only notable improvement I can see
Its only budget if you dont have to replace it plus I could think of a few things to enhance it with, hdmi, bluetooth, fix the circuitboard in the sub woofer - I have had two of these blow in two different systems and different houses - very expensive system to keep replacing given there are no parts or repairers for the z906
I had this system for 1 year and I wasn't happy with it's sound quality. I then did some research and I think the Logitech Z5500 is the best one in the Z series. I've been using the Z5500 for well over 4 years now and I have never been happier.
Had mine for a few years. They are absolutely amazing. I’ve just hooked them up to my cd player via optical and it’s super crisp. I love the 1000 watts of magic they provide. The bass is tight and punchy and the satellites are crystal clear. They never distort no matter how loud I play them and I listen to a lot of bass heavy electronic music.
I have also owned my Z906 for 10 years, hell even longer, I got them the same year they came out as a warranty replacement for the previous version. Anyway, I've been looking for a reason to upgrade to something a bit more modern, but honestly the z906 are hard to fault even this many years on.
These speakers must be legendary and I am thinking about buying these. These are still sold to this day. Even after all these years and they are still very popular. So if Logitech is keeping them around then it's for good reason. I think these are 300 to $500 in Canada at Best Buy
I have Logitech Z560 and Z-2100. Both THX certified speakers from 20 years ago. Both still sound phenomenal. Only problem with them is their volume knob starts crackling loudly. Annoyingly loud too. I just use my computer’s volume adjustment. I might pick this up for the digital volume knob alone.
My Altec Lansing 641 computer speakers just conked out a few minutes ago; it served me a good 20 years. Now I'd have to find a replacement for it. And I think the z906 would be the perfect one to replace it.
I find that the 906 sounds like music played through a tin can.. Go online and find a good used Logitech Z-5500 you’ll find plenty, these out perform the 906 all away around.The sub is bigger and it also has volume boost which the 906 doesn’t have. Myself I think Logitech took 2 huge steps back when the design this unit.
@@joewatson3261 too late. got the z906 more than a week ago. you're definitely right, the satellites sound tinny and it took me quite a while to 'fix' the sound using my gaming rigs eq to up the mids a bit. The subs don't go as low as my Altec Lansing 641's and not as punchy. A bit muddy lows than what i was used to, imo.
I think these guys are rather underpowered for a true surround sound setup, but they make AMAZING 2.1 PC speakers. The speakers are good-looking and unobtrusive and the sub gives them a lot of oomph for their size. They sound great at moderate near-field volumes.
Her Marcus, out of the bunch of videos and reviews, you were the only one straight to the point. I´m looking for a Surround system for a whle and I think I will get me this one! Thank you! From Costa Rica!🚀
II"ve had this system inside my semi truck for about 8 years stills works great and sound is best I have heard of any computer speaker system,,, my system at home is only one II have heard sound better, but that's not exactly a computer speaker system but home theater system lol
You won't regret it, I bought them 9yrs ago and this is hands down the best set of speakers I've ever bought, I run them through a Creative Z SE soundcard and the sound quality is exception, still crisp and no distortion.
What is important to note is that the Z906 was reissued a few years ago. The power amp was built with inferior components. The transistors burn out even at moderate volume. Mostly the front left and front right channel are affected. The cable for the decoder has been shortened, it has undergone a massive degradation overall. All who buy it from now on should know that it will not last as long as the old Z906.
Yes,I bought one and had problems with the front right speaker just after a few weeks.I got an replacement and did the same thing.When I want to play with bass even at 50% volume I have craclking in front speakers.I cant use it properly,its really frustrating.I want something as powerfull as the Z906 but I cant find anything cheap as the z906
Why they don't add an HDMI input for direct uncompressed surround sound is beyond me. 5.1 over S/PDIF is hit or miss, and it certainly can't support newer formats. Sadly, I think everything has just gone headphones anyways.
Mine ran like a champ for 8 years. Finally lost front left channel on the amp. I've abused this thing since new and I never used the stock 5 satellite speakers. It's been running 4 Polk Audio TSi100 and matching center channel (don;t remember the model) speakers this whole time. Excellent system.
I have another model 2 speakers & subwoofer bought it around 10 years ago with my computer & works like charm still , after about 10 years bought a NEW Gen12th/ I9 desktop computer & monitor & Bought this model 5.1 version with my new computer for $400 from Amazon over blk Friday , cant believe u said paid $300 should be cheaper now, i got ripped off lol, .... but will see when all my stuffs comes & put all of them together...is REALLLY f*n GREAT brand & quality speakers & Products & this model would be really Powerful speaker system for computer, glad the system kicking it still & U happy with it about a decade pass cant wait👍
I do sound design for movies and tv series. You won't believe it but I use the z906 to monitor my work in 5.1 in my home studio. I love, LOVE this (was going to say little but it isn't) system. Everything sounds great in these speakers and I even use this system as a reference for mixing. I already had a pair of reference monitors which I use to eq stuff and create sounds in stereo. I needed a way to verify the 5.1 placement of sounds in the mix, and for this, I needed a 5.1 monitoring system. Buying the z906 system saved me from having to buy a discrete 5.1 professional monitoring system which would have cost me close to 6 figures! 👀. 🙏 Thank you Logitech for building this system!😅❤❤❤❤ 10/10
Nice soundrig you got there. I got Logitech Z-5500. Had it for well over 10 years. Sounds still amazing. Last year I bought a modern tv, 55-inch with WiFi and I saw that I could use the optical cable from my TV to the soundsystem. The sound are very crisp and watching movies are like being in a movietheatre. That's bloody amazing. But I can't live full out tho, I mean I live on the 3rd floor. One day me and some friends had BBQ-party, but no music so I opened the windows and putted the system on almost full. Well, it was daytime, no reprimands on that, but some unlucky events the landlord have been standing inside my apartment and yelled because the music was a bit high few times. "ONE MORE TIME AND I'LL KICK YOU OUT!!!" So yeah, I can't live full out with the speakersystem. It is great punch in the system I would say. A friend of mine got the same Z906 as you do. Well, I was listening on it. It is a great system, but for some reason I couldn't hear the very crisp sound I got in my system. And well, yeah his subwoofer didn't have the very very low bassresonance that I got. But it differs 2 inches on bass tho. Yours 8 and I got 10.
Z5500 was excellent. Unfortunately my control console for it bricked and I couldn't find a replacement. RIP one of the best 5.1 systems I've ever seen.
@@DrakonR Yeah, the LED on the control console are out, but it still works like a charm. Geez, I dunno. Had it for atleast 15 years I guess. Never had any problem but just the LED in the monitoring that went out. Just sat my ass down and counted the years. It is bloody 15 years this year. But well, I still got my NES 8-bit I got when I was 7. Also still working like a charm. I am 42 now, soon it will celibrate 40 years in my pecision. And no, that's the only thing in the world I never will sell in my life. I will die and demands to be buried with it. :p
1 year ago I came across a Logitech Z906 only subwoofer and control, I had a set of speakers Harman Kardon sat ts7 which I did not use I combined them and it turned out perfect
I now have the Sonos Arc sound system and absolutely love it but this Logitech system was my surround sound system for many years and holds a special place.
I like this system too I just wish they would upgrade it to support hdmi and bluetooth audio And it for them to them to be able to decode the next level of dolby and DTS audio. Such as Dolby True HD and DTS HD.
Back in 2020, I was setting up a budget home theater system, so I got a set of Z906 in 2020 for $279 (the lowest price appeared on that year was $249). Really like it. But, I had to move to another state two years later, and I decided to give them away as a gift to my then-roommate. Haven’t expected that the price never drops to this level ever again. Currently it’s $379 on Amazon. I guess the inflation really hits hard on this one. If I want to get one again, I definitely wouldn’t buy it right now (consider its age) unless the price drops to the same level as before or even more. Otherwise, I would just save more money, move on, and level up to a Dolby Atmos speaker system in a foreseeable future.
Some HUGE pros are: DTS and Dolby Surround decoders with optical connection, compact size and good quality sound. And the biggest con is that non-sense "control console" thing, I had some different surround systems and that "control console" is so out of that world and ugly compared to other systems. Surprised that after 10 years they still doing that. And as I remember it is HARD WIRED and non detachable from the main block.
One note, if you want better sound from your headphones do not use front controllers on your case. You should always try to use the back end connector (ideally via a discrete sound card )
got these and returned them as i had the older logitec z5500 and sound from a quality, bass and loudness point of view just couldnt compete with the z5500. its been 7 years since i sold my z5500 and ended up with a katana v2. now i was hopinh to see improvements in the pc speacker market and wow there really is a huge lack of choice and i dont feel any significant improvement over the z5500. wheres the 7.1 gone?
i live in an apartment, neighbors always blasting music and partying til 5 am, got this a few years back... been quiet on his end ever since and hes made some complaints... got what i wanted lol
Wow... my subwoofer (specifically, the sound processor) died five years later I bought them. Sadly, the impedance of the speakers is 4 Ohms, so they aren't compatible with most home theaters. The saddest part: they died just after I connected them to my new (back then) TV through optical. The only response I got from Logitech was "we don't sell parts, buy a new set".
Actually my z5500 died on me. I took it to repair shop who told me exactly the chip needed which I purchased online. Most of logitech parts were off the self parts. I had the z5500 for nearly 15 years
My 9 year old set just died. Two lights, and the "reset" of pressing the input button for eight seconds does nothing. It seems that a pair of resistors is probably to blame. It was great for the time, exceptional value at the price initially bought for. Not sure what to do now, as the satellite speakers themselves seem fine.
Excellent video! I have a question, does it sounds the same if i use the Digital optical input, Digital coaxial input, RCA input, or is there a difference in the sound?
There are minute sound differences but unless you're an extreme audiophile you won't hear that much of a difference assuming you're using good wires for all of the inputs. The advantage of using optical for example has more to do with the fact that there's less wires than the quality of the sound (it's also probably the best sound quality too tho so there's that, and the most universal input across modern devices)
Mine just crapped itself and i love it so much i might get the same one again. Looking for options rn tho if anything as good or better for the money has come out.
Hello sir, i have purchased Logitech Z906 yesterday after watching your video and a huge thanks for the review which you have provided was really helpful for me but i am unable to connect it to my laptop can anyone please help , thanks in advance 😊
I love the ability to put better sounding desktop speakers in the system! I sold off the desktop speakers that came in the box, first week I had the system.
I don't understand why you would. The Z906 and Z623/625 satillites are actually VERY good. I also have a Z5500 set, those I would and am looking to swap out, for whatever reason they just don't sound nearly as good. The 5500's sub however is better than the 906 or 623/625, but the control module of the 906 is way better with the ability to bind OTHER remotes to it, like a universal or another Logitech remote.
I considered it, but decided it would not be meaningful. In between, there would be the effect of my mic and then the viewer's speakers. So much gets lost on the way.
@@2MinuteReviews There is a headphone and line out, not a mic. I would love that too but most PCs don't have a Mic input on the back to go with the surround outputs. The mic is normally only accessible from the motherboard header and no one even makes a PCI blade adapter or anything to get the mic to the back of the PC. :( I use a Sound Blaster X4 USB audio DAC to get a mic input on the desk.
@moneyzonetrader HI. I bought Z906 in April 2023. I use an external sound card, to which I connected both RCA cables and a digital optical cable. On Netflix, the program should automatically play 5.1 audio: if you connect it with the digital cable, the LED at the top under DECODE automatically lights up, so you can watch the film in 5.1. I connected it to a computer in a 25m2 room, I can hear the 5.1 effect very well, that is, the sounds actually come from where the scene takes place and you can't hear them where there are no one. I mean, if the noise is only from front of you, behind you is silence and you hear rear only if there is noises behind, this means it is real 5.1 However, if you find programs, even on Netflix, that do not have 5.1 encoding, even if you have digital cable, real 5.1 will not work. At this point, I suggest to use the 3D button, which simulates 5.1 quite well. In this case, I think it is better then nothing. I hope I could help, I am italian and my english is not good. Hi
0:26 I connect my same sound system through my TV with an optical cable and then from my TV to the source which is my PC. I am not able to select 5.1 sound setup and is ghosted. Do I need a HDMI to Optical Audio splitter or something
@@2MinuteReviews no,,, the sub only works with this logitech controller(ie controller won't plug into anything else), as for the other speakers you could use any other of same impedence
Do you get 5.1 on your PC out of them? I got told you can't have the surround sound 5.1 without an RCA connector, because AUX will keep it only 2 channel or something is this right?
@@Blockah Hey Bro, did you figure it out? I also have the colored ports u mentioned back of my motherboard? Are they enough to connect all the wires and get 5.1 surround?
@@siddu7549 Yeah they were enough I think as I recall, but I soon found out some games weren't meant to be played on 5.1 channel anyway, so that was kinda disappointing lol - Ended up selling it in the end!
Hi Markus, The other day a little black plastic clip on the back of the sub where one of the front left wire connects broke when trying to release it to move them. Do you know how i would fix this so that i can connect it again? Or do i have to throw the whole system out?
I just purchsed the Z906 but have one issue... after about an hour or so of no use (no input), the controller switches itself off. Why does it do this and how can I stop it? My Logitech Z-5500 never did this. Sometimes it refuses to turn back on again until I manually unplug the sub-woofer from the power socket. Very annoying!
@@2MinuteReviews ***UPDATE*** I found out (after a bit of research, that the Z906 has a "Standby Mode" and to disable it you press and hold down the LEVEL button on the remote until all the LED's around the Volume knob disappear, about 5 seconds. Problem fixed. The device stays on until you turn it off. 👍
After sony discontinue iv300 there are only two option for me yamaha 1840 and logitech z906 and i have sony x75h lcd tv and it has optical output for sound so can logitech support surround sound from it?
surround works great in games (select dolby/dts in the creative ae5plus sound card and speakers) for music select spdif as default device. alll my games have amazing surround in games and music sounds great in spdif default device in windows
I need your help. I don't know how to connect my PC to my Z906 for a true Dolby 5.1 experience. P.S.: Which port will provide true Dolby/ 5.1 surround sound? I don't want to experience fake or simulated surround sound.
If your Motherboard has an Optical Fibre input port, then you can get true surround sound. But 3.5 mm cable can not transmit Real Surround sound audio.
i have had mine for 10 years and either the sub or the control unite died most likly the sub. the one bad thing about this set is that they will not sell you any part by itself. so i will have to buy a whole new set instead of just buying a new sub.
@2MinuteReviews yah i loved mine and would have happily payed $100 for a replacement sub and controller pack to keep using them but im not willing to pay full price for a full new set so now ill be going somewhere else and they lose my money and ill now give this warning if i recomend them. Im more then happy to pay repair fees i have done it many times for many devices.
How do you connect Iphone 7+ To the speakers. I have special cabel white that goes to the Iphone but I do not know where to put it in the subwoofer that will work?
You take what most people call an "aux cord" or a 3.5mm audio cable like your headphones use but it's on both ends of the wire, and you plug it into the side of the control box below the headphone jack (he shows those jacks in this video) Its that simple.
Hi got my headset connected to the console but cant seem to get the mic working, got a asus xonar DSX soundcard have set the sound settings input to Microphone - asus xonar dsx audio device but dont get any mic activity. When using mu senheisser gsx 1000 and set it to to gsx 1000 communicatin audio standard com device, its fine, got any suggestions?
I wish it could stay on when supplied power so that I wouldent need to push the power button. I have a usb power strip that is connected to a port on the pc and powers on my whole setup. just not the sound system becouse of this.
@@2MinuteReviews So If you connect a smart plug with power analyzer does it show this unit pulls around 350-500w at max volume? I doubt that bcoz if a basic speaker unit could pull as much power as an entire high end gaming PC at max load this thing needs serious liquid cooling or it could burst into flames. the 500W must be PMPO and RMS might be around 100-200 w MAX Its just another marketing scam
Hi, did you recommend this set for movies, pc games... and for music? what about dvds that have audio in 5.1 dolby surround or dolby stereo how does this work? have you tried?.
Yes, I listen to 5.1 audio in movies and TV all the time. Works great! Just choose that speaker setup in Windows. And for music and PC games this setup works beautifully.
i have this sytem since 10 years . i used a creative ae5plus sound card and connected to speakers via optical . when playing games i select speakers in control app and enable dolby encoding . when listen to music i switch to spdif device in windows11 and disable dolby/dts . works in 99% of games and music sounds great . if spdif is selected music will sound great and netflix will playd dts/dolby
@@2MinuteReviews ignore 2-minute reviews horrible answer use an optical cable and a sound card who supports folby/dts like creative ae5plus . for games u enable encoding dolby/dts . for music and netflx u set spdif as default device in windows 11 .he has the speakers for 10 years and he doesnt know how to enable true surround in games or netflix .
i have a creative sound blaster ae5plus and it can decode just fine netflix 5.1 dolby/dts in games i set my sound card to encode in dolby / dts and the speakers decode just fine the 5.1 sounds
@@gamesthatmatter9374 I know about DTS and Dolby there are plenty of options. I am more interested in knowing if that can decode *DTS MASTER AUDIO* and *Dolby TrueHD*
@@salmansaysit i played some blue rays via external 5.1 blue ray player . the surround was working fine . i am not sure in which format the blue ray was (marvel endgame and transformers dark side of the moon)
@@gamesthatmatter9374 latest version for dolby and dts are downard compatible if you system can't decode the master or true hd its fallback to core which is old version. I don't think that will do because z906 is released back in 2011 and DTS master audio later became popular with true hd for dolby I guess need to wait for another 20 to 30 years for logitech to realize what its missing.
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proud owner of Logitech Z-5500 for 15 years. Still shaking my house when at 25% full volume. Connected to a Soundblaster Z
@@claudimerro Lovely z680 and then z906 now.. Going to build and connect AE-9 Soundcard optical.. Hope it will get the power of these speakers will be in full use.. I have replaced the company wires to 16 guage wires for 16 x 20 size .. Going to listen to mp3 & FLAC with Klite Media player and , Blurays rips and Blurays with POWERDVD 12... will use external ASUS Bluray drive to watch the movie.,..
It’s not 300$
My Logitech Z906 keeps shutting off, console panel keeps shutting off. Does anyone know why this happens?
My z906s have started to play up today 😢. They are 1 month away from 11 years old so they have had a good run. I love them so much I've ordered a new set of them. So glad they still produce them. Heres to the next 11 years.
Yes, it's a great system indeed!
I still got the z5300 from back in the day, still going strong
Really good 10 year review.
Nobody gives a review that is 10 yrs long… but I am super happy to hear that you did it…
These days it has been so crazy that long term review is about 6 months giving a fake impression that people keep changing gadgets every 6 months to a year… but you did right by truly reflecting real consumers who are looking for real value for money and looking for real long term durability.
I'm happy when they make a great product that lasts ten years, and is still sold after that time!
Marcus, I still have mine for over 8 years now, my son still has his for over 9 years and last year I bought my Daughter a set for her TV. Absolutely NO complaints, No issues. Several inputs from RCA to Toslink and more ways (as you pointed out) to change on the control module. I forgot how many watts these speakers are, but they will rattle the windows. LOL
Ohh, almost forgot, These are also THX, Dolby Digital and DTS Digital Certified!!!!!!!
Oh yes, it's a great system!
Still using mine. I watch TONs of films, play video games all the time, and every couple weeks a long music session. The system is fantastic across all uses. As audiophiles will rightly say though, no system-in-a-box PC audio system is top level. You need satellites that are larger than considered convenient. The 906s lack in certain ranges. Its simplicity in setup/use and space saving is worth the tradeoffs. I have an unconventional PC setup which doesn't use a desk, so surface space is at a premium.
Thanks for this. I actually had mine boxed up for about 5 years now and finally got it all setup for my movie room.
I hope it works great still!
An excellent summation of ownership of this great system over ten years, thank you. I too have owned a Z906 for a similar duration with no complaints. This remains probably the best Logitech system and perhaps even the best over all brands. What does stand out in particular is the multiple inputs feature, apparently unmatched by anything else.
However, I have been waiting for some years now for an upgrade to this premier Logitech product that would include the addition of Bluetooth (eg. receiving from an iPhone etc, and transmitting to Bluetooth headphones) and some improvements to the quality and features of the remote control unit, for example, individual buttons for each of the inputs (rather than having to scroll through all of them). And maybe even a smart phone app controller for the system? 🙂
A great product indeed. And that potential Bluetooth connection would really elevate it!
me too, was looking for a new one, can't believe it's still the same old one, but then again, it's not like anything else sounds better anyway.
Im still rocking the z-5500 sounds as great as ever.@@deadmanlyndon
They do sell a Bluetooth receiver you can plug into it, if you just want to play from your phone.
Crazy to think that this thing is 10+ years old now. Still pretty much the best budget 5.1 setup. Logitech did really well and frankly, there's not much they can upgrade to make an updated version lol
The only difference I've seen in the current version is an updated logo. They nailed it on the first try for sure!
They could try and implement HDMI for the most up to date codecs. Dolby Digital and DTS is definitely serviceable as is and is a giant bang for the buck but I think that's the only notable improvement I can see
Its only budget if you dont have to replace it plus I could think of a few things to enhance it with, hdmi, bluetooth, fix the circuitboard in the sub woofer - I have had two of these blow in two different systems and different houses - very expensive system to keep replacing given there are no parts or repairers for the z906
Perhaps its time for Bluetooth?
@@JohnSmith-iv5wq I just have the Logitech bluetooth adapter for tha :D
Best speakers set i have ever owned,
I have it for years and no problem,
Im using it for my pc and tv with optic cable. Perfect
Yes it's a great setup!
I had this system for 1 year and I wasn't happy with it's sound quality. I then did some research and I think the Logitech Z5500 is the best one in the Z series. I've been using the Z5500 for well over 4 years now and I have never been happier.
Great tip! Sounds like a great system.
yep no other pc speakers in my opinion come close to the z5500
Had mine for a few years. They are absolutely amazing. I’ve just hooked them up to my cd player via optical and it’s super crisp. I love the 1000 watts of magic they provide. The bass is tight and punchy and the satellites are crystal clear. They never distort no matter how loud I play them and I listen to a lot of bass heavy electronic music.
I agree. It's a great system!
I have also owned my Z906 for 10 years, hell even longer, I got them the same year they came out as a warranty replacement for the previous version. Anyway, I've been looking for a reason to upgrade to something a bit more modern, but honestly the z906 are hard to fault even this many years on.
Thanks for watching! Yes, it's a great system.
I got the previous version. It is badass.
These speakers must be legendary and I am thinking about buying these. These are still sold to this day. Even after all these years and they are still very popular. So if Logitech is keeping them around then it's for good reason. I think these are 300 to $500 in Canada at Best Buy
I've had an excellent experience with them!
ye ye try it.then let us know how good is logi :D z533 dead in 2 y
I have Logitech Z560 and Z-2100. Both THX certified speakers from 20 years ago. Both still sound phenomenal. Only problem with them is their volume knob starts crackling loudly. Annoyingly loud too.
I just use my computer’s volume adjustment.
I might pick this up for the digital volume knob alone.
My Altec Lansing 641 computer speakers just conked out a few minutes ago; it served me a good 20 years. Now I'd have to find a replacement for it. And I think the z906 would be the perfect one to replace it.
A great choice!
I find that the 906 sounds like music played through a tin can.. Go online and find a good used Logitech Z-5500 you’ll find plenty, these out perform the 906 all away around.The sub is bigger and it also has volume boost which the 906 doesn’t have. Myself I think Logitech took 2 huge steps back when the design this unit.
@@joewatson3261 too late. got the z906 more than a week ago. you're definitely right, the satellites sound tinny and it took me quite a while to 'fix' the sound using my gaming rigs eq to up the mids a bit. The subs don't go as low as my Altec Lansing 641's and not as punchy. A bit muddy lows than what i was used to, imo.
@@zenkizenki I have a 5500 set, and have heard a 906 set with no EQ. The 5500 satillites actually sound worse. The sub is better tho.
I think these guys are rather underpowered for a true surround sound setup, but they make AMAZING 2.1 PC speakers. The speakers are good-looking and unobtrusive and the sub gives them a lot of oomph for their size. They sound great at moderate near-field volumes.
Her Marcus, out of the bunch of videos and reviews, you were the only one straight to the point. I´m looking for a Surround system for a whle and I think I will get me this one! Thank you! From Costa Rica!🚀
Thank you Kevin! This really is a great sound system. I use it every day and I love it.
II"ve had this system inside my semi truck for about 8 years stills works great and sound is best I have heard of any computer speaker system,,, my system at home is only one II have heard sound better, but that's not exactly a computer speaker system but home theater system lol
You won't regret it, I bought them 9yrs ago and this is hands down the best set of speakers I've ever bought, I run them through a Creative Z SE soundcard and the sound quality is exception, still crisp and no distortion.
What is important to note is that the Z906 was reissued a few years ago. The power amp was built with inferior components. The transistors burn out even at moderate volume. Mostly the front left and front right channel are affected.
The cable for the decoder has been shortened, it has undergone a massive degradation overall. All who buy it from now on should know that it will not last as long as the old Z906.
Thanks for adding this info! I'm happy I have the old model.
Yes,I bought one and had problems with the front right speaker just after a few weeks.I got an replacement and did the same thing.When I want to play with bass even at 50% volume I have craclking in front speakers.I cant use it properly,its really frustrating.I want something as powerfull as the Z906 but I cant find anything cheap as the z906
some of the best bang for buck speakers of all time. I just wish they would do a new version with a better sub.
Thanks for watching!
What's wrong with the sub now? It hits hard very hard.
Why they don't add an HDMI input for direct uncompressed surround sound is beyond me. 5.1 over S/PDIF is hit or miss, and it certainly can't support newer formats. Sadly, I think everything has just gone headphones anyways.
That could be a nice addition in a future model.
Mine ran like a champ for 8 years. Finally lost front left channel on the amp. I've abused this thing since new and I never used the stock 5 satellite speakers. It's been running 4 Polk Audio TSi100 and matching center channel (don;t remember the model) speakers this whole time. Excellent system.
I did have the sub itself turned all the way down since I had both a 10" and 12" sub from polk audio.
Sounds like a great setup!
I have another model 2 speakers & subwoofer bought it around 10 years ago with my computer & works like charm still , after about 10 years bought a NEW Gen12th/ I9 desktop computer & monitor & Bought this model 5.1 version with my new computer for $400 from Amazon over blk Friday , cant believe u said paid $300 should be cheaper now, i got ripped off lol, .... but will see when all my stuffs comes & put all of them together...is REALLLY f*n GREAT brand & quality speakers & Products & this model would be really Powerful speaker system for computer, glad the system kicking it still & U happy with it about a decade pass cant wait👍
For a system that will last a long time, it's still a decent price!
I do sound design for movies and tv series. You won't believe it but I use the z906 to monitor my work in 5.1 in my home studio. I love, LOVE this (was going to say little but it isn't) system. Everything sounds great in these speakers and I even use this system as a reference for mixing. I already had a pair of reference monitors which I use to eq stuff and create sounds in stereo. I needed a way to verify the 5.1 placement of sounds in the mix, and for this, I needed a 5.1 monitoring system. Buying the z906 system saved me from having to buy a discrete 5.1 professional monitoring system which would have cost me close to 6 figures! 👀. 🙏 Thank you Logitech for building this system!😅❤❤❤❤ 10/10
I've been using this device \ system since 2020 August, and I'm fully satisfied from every angles.....
I am too. It's a great system!
mine is 9 years old and still works great in games
It's a great system!
Legendary speakers
I agree!
Nice soundrig you got there. I got Logitech Z-5500. Had it for well over 10 years. Sounds still amazing. Last year I bought a modern tv, 55-inch with WiFi and I saw that I could use the optical cable from my TV to the soundsystem. The sound are very crisp and watching movies are like being in a movietheatre. That's bloody amazing. But I can't live full out tho, I mean I live on the 3rd floor. One day me and some friends had BBQ-party, but no music so I opened the windows and putted the system on almost full. Well, it was daytime, no reprimands on that, but some unlucky events the landlord have been standing inside my apartment and yelled because the music was a bit high few times. "ONE MORE TIME AND I'LL KICK YOU OUT!!!" So yeah, I can't live full out with the speakersystem.
It is great punch in the system I would say.
A friend of mine got the same Z906 as you do. Well, I was listening on it. It is a great system, but for some reason I couldn't hear the very crisp sound I got in my system. And well, yeah his subwoofer didn't have the very very low bassresonance that I got. But it differs 2 inches on bass tho. Yours 8 and I got 10.
Both sound like great options to me!
Z5500 was excellent. Unfortunately my control console for it bricked and I couldn't find a replacement. RIP one of the best 5.1 systems I've ever seen.
@@DrakonR Yeah, the LED on the control console are out, but it still works like a charm. Geez, I dunno. Had it for atleast 15 years I guess. Never had any problem but just the LED in the monitoring that went out. Just sat my ass down and counted the years. It is bloody 15 years this year. But well, I still got my NES 8-bit I got when I was 7. Also still working like a charm. I am 42 now, soon it will celibrate 40 years in my pecision. And no, that's the only thing in the world I never will sell in my life.
I will die and demands to be buried with it. :p
@@DrakonR my z5500 control console died this week. I had them since around 2006 😭😭😭 I'm so sad
@@Jitoro5 🙏 sorry for your loss.
1 year ago I came across a Logitech Z906 only subwoofer and control, I had a set of speakers Harman Kardon sat ts7 which I did not use I combined them and it turned out perfect
Great solution!
me too, i don't think there is anything else as good as this, and with such a deep base, nothing can compare.
It really is a great system!
Had these for a few years really good love Logitech speakers also had z506 10 years about now
I'm looking at adding a home office, and am definitely looking at bringing a Logi system there as well.
These Logi speakers are GOD level systems man. The z623s & z906s they can be used years on years🤩🤩🤩🤩
Thanks for watching!
Just picked this up from my local FB marketplace for US$30 - so excited to set it up this weekend for my gaming system!
Great choice!
I ordered it, and expecting it tomorrow! Better late than never I guess :D
I hope you will be very happy with the system!
I now have the Sonos Arc sound system and absolutely love it but this Logitech system was my surround sound system for many years and holds a special place.
I definitely love mine!
I like this system too I just wish they would upgrade it to support hdmi and bluetooth audio And it for them to them to be able to decode the next level of dolby and DTS audio. Such as Dolby True HD and DTS HD.
Mine is 10 years old and still sounds as good as the day I bought it..
What a great system this is!
Back in 2020, I was setting up a budget home theater system, so I got a set of Z906 in 2020 for $279 (the lowest price appeared on that year was $249). Really like it. But, I had to move to another state two years later, and I decided to give them away as a gift to my then-roommate. Haven’t expected that the price never drops to this level ever again. Currently it’s $379 on Amazon. I guess the inflation really hits hard on this one. If I want to get one again, I definitely wouldn’t buy it right now (consider its age) unless the price drops to the same level as before or even more. Otherwise, I would just save more money, move on, and level up to a Dolby Atmos speaker system in a foreseeable future.
I was happy with the price when I bought it. Must have been bak in 2011 approximately.
@@2MinuteReviewsThat was when Z906 was introduced. You got it early as a new model and it’s definitely worth it.
Some HUGE pros are: DTS and Dolby Surround decoders with optical connection, compact size and good quality sound. And the biggest con is that non-sense "control console" thing, I had some different surround systems and that "control console" is so out of that world and ugly compared to other systems. Surprised that after 10 years they still doing that. And as I remember it is HARD WIRED and non detachable from the main block.
The control console may be an old design. But it works very well, and the volume control is very satisfying to turn!
Awesome description.......straight to the point.
Thanks for watching!
One note, if you want better sound from your headphones do not use front controllers on your case. You should always try to use the back end connector (ideally via a discrete sound card )
That's a good tip!
Still an amazing sound system!!!
It sure is!
thinking getting this for my projector
got these and returned them as i had the older logitec z5500 and sound from a quality, bass and loudness point of view just couldnt compete with the z5500. its been 7 years since i sold my z5500 and ended up with a katana v2. now i was hopinh to see improvements in the pc speacker market and wow there really is a huge lack of choice and i dont feel any significant improvement over the z5500. wheres the 7.1 gone?
i live in an apartment, neighbors always blasting music and partying til 5 am, got this a few years back... been quiet on his end ever since and hes made some complaints... got what i wanted lol
Good solution!
After 9 years of excellent service, my controller is not working anymore, no sound coming up. It's gone.
Nine years is not bad! Still a great product in my mind.
the control center might be bad. those speakers are using serial port with thst controller. so an arduino with customcode might work
many have said the older model held up alot better than the newer one if anyones recently bought this lmk how it ran
I guess I have the older one!
Wow... my subwoofer (specifically, the sound processor) died five years later I bought them. Sadly, the impedance of the speakers is 4 Ohms, so they aren't compatible with most home theaters. The saddest part: they died just after I connected them to my new (back then) TV through optical.
The only response I got from Logitech was "we don't sell parts, buy a new set".
Oh no, that's unfortunate.
Actually my z5500 died on me. I took it to repair shop who told me exactly the chip needed which I purchased online. Most of logitech parts were off the self parts. I had the z5500 for nearly 15 years
My 9 year old set just died. Two lights, and the "reset" of pressing the input button for eight seconds does nothing. It seems that a pair of resistors is probably to blame. It was great for the time, exceptional value at the price initially bought for. Not sure what to do now, as the satellite speakers themselves seem fine.
That's a shame. Nine years is still a respectable lifespan.
I love their is an aux input on the console for devices that have an headphone jack or a audio out
Yes, it's a great feature to have!
Excellent video! I have a question, does it sounds the same if i use the Digital optical input, Digital coaxial input, RCA input, or is there a difference in the sound?
I haven't tried. I just use the analog cables on my system.
There are minute sound differences but unless you're an extreme audiophile you won't hear that much of a difference assuming you're using good wires for all of the inputs.
The advantage of using optical for example has more to do with the fact that there's less wires than the quality of the sound (it's also probably the best sound quality too tho so there's that, and the most universal input across modern devices)
Mine just crapped itself and i love it so much i might get the same one again. Looking for options rn tho if anything as good or better for the money has come out.
Thanks for watching!
My Logitech Z906 keeps shutting off, console panel keeps shutting off. Does anyone know why this happens?
Hello sir, i have purchased Logitech Z906 yesterday after watching your video and a huge thanks for the review which you have provided was really helpful for me but i am unable to connect it to my laptop can anyone please help , thanks in advance 😊
This kind of system isn't really suitable for laptops. You may need a separate USB soundcard.
I had no clue we could change the volume of the individual speakers dammmmmmmmmmm thx ! xD
Thanks for watching!
I love the ability to put better sounding desktop speakers in the system! I sold off the desktop speakers that came in the box, first week I had the system.
That's a great solution!
I don't understand why you would. The Z906 and Z623/625 satillites are actually VERY good. I also have a Z5500 set, those I would and am looking to swap out, for whatever reason they just don't sound nearly as good. The 5500's sub however is better than the 906 or 623/625, but the control module of the 906 is way better with the ability to bind OTHER remotes to it, like a universal or another Logitech remote.
Would have loved to hear short sound demo
I considered it, but decided it would not be meaningful. In between, there would be the effect of my mic and then the viewer's speakers. So much gets lost on the way.
i have this item and still going strong but am trying to find out how powerful the headphone jack is
I don't have a way to measure that. But I do regularly use the headphone jack with my Koss Portapro, and it works great.
Can you plug in both a headset and a mic in that control console?
There are ports for both, but I've only ever tried headphones.
@@2MinuteReviews There is a headphone and line out, not a mic. I would love that too but most PCs don't have a Mic input on the back to go with the surround outputs. The mic is normally only accessible from the motherboard header and no one even makes a PCI blade adapter or anything to get the mic to the back of the PC. :( I use a Sound Blaster X4 USB audio DAC to get a mic input on the desk.
sir i have pc with 4k samsung monitor and motherboard with optical in. Can i enjoy netflix in real 5.1 system with with speakers? plz help thanks
I would imagine so, but I haven't tried the optical connection on my setup.
@moneyzonetrader HI. I bought Z906 in April 2023. I use an external sound card, to which I connected both RCA cables and a digital optical cable. On Netflix, the program should automatically play 5.1 audio: if you connect it with the digital cable, the LED at the top under DECODE automatically lights up, so you can watch the film in 5.1. I connected it to a computer in a 25m2 room, I can hear the 5.1 effect very well, that is, the sounds actually come from where the scene takes place and you can't hear them where there are no one. I mean, if the noise is only from front of you, behind you is silence and you hear rear only if there is noises behind, this means it is real 5.1 However, if you find programs, even on Netflix, that do not have 5.1 encoding, even if you have digital cable, real 5.1 will not work. At this point, I suggest to use the 3D button, which simulates 5.1 quite well. In this case, I think it is better then nothing. I hope I could help, I am italian and my english is not good. Hi
0:35 Why do you have a VGA cable looking thing plugged in? Don't you only need the three aux cables up top?
That cable is for the control console on my desk.
Very high performance at low cost
i was going to buy the z906 but have read reports of the system having a overheating problem
I've heard that as well, but never experienced the problem myself. I make sure to give the sub plenty of space for airflow.
0:26 I connect my same sound system through my TV with an optical cable and then from my TV to the source which is my PC. I am not able to select 5.1 sound setup and is ghosted. Do I need a HDMI to Optical Audio splitter or something
That I don't know. I use the regular audio cables from my PC.
Is it possible to use different speakers & subwoofers?
I imagine so, but I haven't tried.
@@2MinuteReviews no,,, the sub only works with this logitech controller(ie controller won't plug into anything else), as for the other speakers you could use any other of same impedence
Do you get 5.1 on your PC out of them?
I got told you can't have the surround sound 5.1 without an RCA connector, because AUX will keep it only 2 channel or something is this right?
Yep, I get 5.1 sound. I connect mine to my sound card with the three cables (front left and right, rear left and right, center and sub). Works great!
@@2MinuteReviews My motherboard has the black orange red green and blue coloured audio ports on the back, that is what is on your sound card right?
@@Blockah Hey Bro, did you figure it out? I also have the colored ports u mentioned back of my motherboard? Are they enough to connect all the wires and get 5.1 surround?
@@siddu7549 Yeah they were enough I think as I recall, but I soon found out some games weren't meant to be played on 5.1 channel anyway, so that was kinda disappointing lol - Ended up selling it in the end!
They are durable !!!
Oh yes, it's a high-quality system!
@@2MinuteReviews I have seen some people put fans on the back ? Does it get worryingly hot ?
Hi Markus,
The other day a little black plastic clip on the back of the sub where one of the front left wire connects broke when trying to release it to move them. Do you know how i would fix this so that i can connect it again? Or do i have to throw the whole system out?
That one I don't know. Never had that issue.
Ok. Thanks anyway
do you always have to press on button when you turn on your main socket power🤔
My socket is always active. So I just press the power button on the control console.
I just purchsed the Z906 but have one issue... after about an hour or so of no use (no input), the controller switches itself off. Why does it do this and how can I stop it? My Logitech Z-5500 never did this. Sometimes it refuses to turn back on again until I manually unplug the sub-woofer from the power socket. Very annoying!
Definitely not supposed to do that. Contact the retailer and have it fixed.
@@2MinuteReviews ***UPDATE*** I found out (after a bit of research, that the Z906 has a "Standby Mode" and to disable it you press and hold down the LEVEL button on the remote until all the LED's around the Volume knob disappear, about 5 seconds. Problem fixed. The device stays on until you turn it off. 👍
After sony discontinue iv300 there are only two option for me yamaha 1840 and logitech z906 and i have sony x75h lcd tv and it has optical output for sound so can logitech support surround sound from it?
I haven't tried the optical output on mine.
@@2MinuteReviews try it
optical does not give surround decode only stereo,, but the controller can be set to upmix the speaker system to give you a faux surround
@@johnfisk8407 yes i tried and sound system gives only stereo R RS AND L LS
surround works great in games (select dolby/dts in the creative ae5plus sound card and speakers) for music select spdif as default device. alll my games have amazing surround in games and music sounds great in spdif default device in windows
I there a way to set the subwoofer to auto start with your TV, Chromecast, etc? I always have to use it's own remote to turn it on so I rarely use it.
I don't know. I turn on mine manually via the console when I switch on my monitor.
I need your help. I don't know how to connect my PC to my Z906 for a true Dolby 5.1 experience.
P.S.: Which port will provide true Dolby/ 5.1 surround sound? I don't want to experience fake or simulated surround sound.
If your Motherboard has an Optical Fibre input port, then you can get true surround sound. But 3.5 mm cable can not transmit Real Surround sound audio.
please do a sound test comparison of Logitech z906 and LG XBOOM LHD687
Great idea! But that's not a system I have access to at the moment.
i have had mine for 10 years and either the sub or the control unite died most likly the sub. the one bad thing about this set is that they will not sell you any part by itself. so i will have to buy a whole new set instead of just buying a new sub.
Good point. They good do more to be user servicable.
@2MinuteReviews yah i loved mine and would have happily payed $100 for a replacement sub and controller pack to keep using them but im not willing to pay full price for a full new set so now ill be going somewhere else and they lose my money and ill now give this warning if i recomend them. Im more then happy to pay repair fees i have done it many times for many devices.
what did you pay when you bought it? as of today it is almost $400
I don't remember, it was over a decade ago.
FOR EVERYONE WITH z906 >TEST< USE THE 3x 3.5mm jack ORANGE BLACK GREEN>>>> THANK ME LATER
That's the connection I use. Works well.
thx for ur video.
Thanks for watching!
My 5 speaker not working just hear sound on 1 speaker why it happening?
I never had that problem. Maybe you only connected one cable from the PC?
How do you connect Iphone 7+ To the speakers. I have special cabel white that goes to the Iphone but I do not know where to put it in the subwoofer that will work?
I think you need one that separates into left and right channel if you want to connect to the sub.
You take what most people call an "aux cord" or a 3.5mm audio cable like your headphones use but it's on both ends of the wire, and you plug it into the side of the control box below the headphone jack (he shows those jacks in this video)
Its that simple.
Which one is better between z906 and jbl bar 5.1 surround?
That I don't know. Have only tried this model!
How to connect my pc lozitech z906
Hi got my headset connected to the console but cant seem to get the mic working, got a asus xonar DSX soundcard have set the sound settings input to Microphone - asus xonar dsx audio device but dont get any mic activity.
When using mu senheisser gsx 1000 and set it to to gsx 1000 communicatin audio standard com device, its fine, got any suggestions?
No suggestions. I haven't actually used the mic jack.
@@2MinuteReviews Just found out that the second connection on the console is not for the mic, i had to extend the mic plug to the soundcard on the pc.
The control console died and I cant buy another one anywhere. Anyone knows where? p.s. Logitech service dos not reply to questions. :(
I don't know. But you could try them through different channels, like social media or resellers.
You use it for long time at middle volume? and it hasn't heat trouble?
The subwoofer gets warm. But it's been working great for years!
@@2MinuteReviews And doesn't need a thermal solution?
I've had mine to max volume with no heat issues played a mix of videos for about 2 hours lol
it gets warm in summer at 35+ degrees . mine works fine after 9 summers.
How are they selling for the price it does, if it's 10 years old?
I don't know. But I think it's a good product still!
That crows nest thou
Let's say it's an artistic choice.
to buy this on GENIUS SW-HF 5.1 6000 II Dark Cherry? i`m afraid because speckers are plastick geius is wood
I've been careful with my plastic speakers, and they are still in great shape after all these years.
Is it best for music ?
I use this system for music every day, and for my taste it's brillant.
yes . use spdif as default device in windws for 24 bit 96Khz max resolution
I Have 2 Yeats with this system AND the power supply damage AND i can't find replacement, it Is very sad I have sold Evert part
That's sad indeed.
How can I connect this speakers to my pc and tv at same time?
There are several different connections on the back you can use.
@@2MinuteReviews thank you. I will look into it. 😇
do you need amplification ?
No it's built-in. I just connect the 3 audio cables from my PC: front speakers, rear speakers and center/sub.
I wish it could stay on when supplied power so that I wouldent need to push the power button. I have a usb power strip that is connected to a port on the pc and powers on my whole setup. just not the sound system becouse of this.
That would be nice indeed!
How is somehting so tiny has 500W RMS is it fake?
I think it's real!
@@2MinuteReviews So If you connect a smart plug with power analyzer does it show this unit pulls around 350-500w at max volume?
I doubt that bcoz if a basic speaker unit could pull as much power as an entire high end gaming PC at max load this thing needs serious liquid cooling or it could burst into flames.
the 500W must be PMPO and RMS might be around 100-200 w MAX
Its just another marketing scam
Does this work for TV?
Depends on the connectors you have on your TV. But I haven't tried it.
Hi, did you recommend this set for
movies, pc games... and for music?
what about dvds that have audio in
5.1 dolby surround or dolby stereo
how does this work? have you tried?.
Yes, I listen to 5.1 audio in movies and TV all the time. Works great! Just choose that speaker setup in Windows. And for music and PC games this setup works beautifully.
i have this sytem since 10 years . i used a creative ae5plus sound card and connected to speakers via optical . when playing games i select speakers in control app and enable dolby encoding . when listen to music i switch to spdif device in windows11 and disable dolby/dts . works in 99% of games and music sounds great . if spdif is selected music will sound great and netflix will playd dts/dolby
How to connect it with pc to get surround sound experience,
I have it plugged into the back of my desktop PC, with three connectors. Front, rear and center.
@@2MinuteReviews ignore 2-minute reviews horrible answer
use an optical cable and a sound card who supports folby/dts like creative ae5plus . for games u enable encoding dolby/dts . for music and netflx u set spdif as default device in windows 11 .he has the speakers for 10 years and he doesnt know how to enable true surround in games or netflix .
If I am correct it cannot decode DTS MA, DTS-X, Dolby TrueHD, Dolby Atmos
That I don't know. I do all the decoding on my PC and just send the audio to the speaker system.
i have a creative sound blaster ae5plus and it can decode just fine netflix 5.1 dolby/dts
in games i set my sound card to encode in dolby / dts and the speakers decode just fine the 5.1 sounds
@@gamesthatmatter9374 I know about DTS and Dolby there are plenty of options. I am more interested in knowing if that can decode *DTS MASTER AUDIO* and *Dolby TrueHD*
@@salmansaysit i played some blue rays via external 5.1 blue ray player . the surround was working fine . i am not sure in which format the blue ray was (marvel endgame and transformers dark side of the moon)
@@gamesthatmatter9374 latest version for dolby and dts are downard compatible if you system can't decode the master or true hd its fallback to core which is old version. I don't think that will do because z906 is released back in 2011 and DTS master audio later became popular with true hd for dolby I guess need to wait for another 20 to 30 years for logitech to realize what its missing.
Dear sir, may you please help me out, how to control bass or how to reduce bass at z906.
Use the right-most button to select the subwoofer, then turn the dial to adjust.
@@2MinuteReviews Alternatively, one can press the "LEVEL" button on the remote, and use + - for setting the volume.
Sound quality is not good but it has good bass.
Yes, that bass shakes the room!
Best 😊
Thanks for watching!