Is DJI really going to get banned? | What will happen to your drones?
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
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They should Ban Google Earth to,if is about National security.
Google works with the US government, so not likely.
real
exactly!!
I doubt that it’s genuinely about national security, and more to eliminate DJI from the domestic competition pool. That’s just how I feel🙄
@millenniusrex6720 you are accurate
I agree with everything you said. BTW: I frequently say that Washington D.C. has the best politicians money can buy.
Right on
i just turned 12, and i’ve wanted to get into the fpv hobby, and a few weeks ago, my parents purchased me a dji fpv. and i’m glad to hear that my drone will probably not be grounded if this bill goes through. as i’ve been super worried about my drone not being usable if this happens.
I own 6 DJI drones, 2 Mini 3 Pro's, with RC Controllers, Mini 4 Pro, with RC 2 Controller, AIR 2S, AIR 3 RC 2 Controller, & DJI FPV Drone, all are Fly More Combos, & I have the Integra Goggles Motion 2 Combo, I also have a Autel Evo Lite Plus Premium Bundle. & I plan on buying the Avata 2 fly more combo. I pray this ban wont go through, but if it does, Ill be set. I written my states representatives about 6 times asking them to oppose HR 2864
The government should at least compensate you if it is passed into law
The bill was almost expected to pass in the House for they supported Stefanik who proposed the DJI ban bill HR 2864 and slipped the bill into their version of NDAA. Now the Senate will review their version of the NDAA bill which may not include any DJI bans or can remove them. They have to negotiate between their versions of NDAA with the House. Once they meet an agreement, it goes to the president for signature. I'm still calling and writing my senators repeatedly. It is not over yet at all. It is not a law yet unless it goes all the way through. Thank you for the video update.
yes...
Senate version doesn't have the House's "Drone Ban" in it, but does have "Female Selective Service Requirements",
so it is VERY likely they will use the "Bill Reconciliation Process" to pass the bill.
That means anything Not in Both bills will be dropped. It's a political non-starter
Is it really coincidence that around the time that there was talk about a Dji ban, that Specta emerged out of nowhere?
No
Where can i find where the bill is written? I want to read it for myself
Link in the description
DJI most likely has and already HAD approval for the next up and coming models. Should be coming soon, and approval happens LONG before they are even announced.
So, pretty much any 2024 DJI releases are still a sure thing.
I hope there is still time to remove drones from the bill. Great video, and thanks for sharing, Jack.
Just bought my first drone, a mini 2 a few weeks ago. Figured it would do me well for a long while. Now I'm wondering if I should go ahead and get a mini 4 pro to get grandfathered in if that's what will happen
yes
Shit, so should I start hoarding dji drones? I have an indoor drone tour business and I use the avata 2, but was also thinking about getting maybe an air 2s or air 3. And how would dji care work? Would it be ok to just buy another back up drone in case, or is dji care worthless now?
I would say it would be smart to grab up sets of parts in bulk before anything settles in the mud.
Be sure to write your congressman.
Vic Moss gave us a great rundown on the bill on @PHANTOM Flight 101 and @Novice Quads live stream last week. I think it sucks that one of the most popular drones even made it to the list. That’s our government for ya.
Interesting how they only targeted DJI drones and not all of their products. Im not sure if their camera software is made in china or not but I would assume so. Whelp, it is what it is .... nothing we can do about it. As long as my drone works Im ok. I guess youtubers will have some more content coming as the new hunt for the next best drone is upon us. Great video and thanks for taking the time to educate us on the situation!
If passed no new DJI products will be approved by FCC
Thank you.
Happy Flying!
Air units and fpv will be affected as well?
I think sooner or later they will ,clear the air of hobby drones! No I don't expect that a US company will start and have the same features as a DJI or in the price range! China basically owns the hobby drones so if no drones or parts from China, you basically eliminate a lot of hobby drones to make way for the expensive corporate and business drones, for safety reasons for example.
So, based on your mention of Huawei, do you think that future DJI products that are not on the FCC list could still be used legally?
No
My damn Pavo 20 needs to hurry the f up so I can set it up with my o3 air unit before I can no longer activate it.
You have time. Still needs to pass the senate
Does this mean Mavic 4 Pro will be rushed to market?
I hope so
Even though Autel does not seem to be making anymore consumer drones, regarding what you said, does this mean Autel is not a part of this? I have heard from many other sources that Autel would be also included.
They are not DJI, subsidiary or affiliate. They are not included.
I read somewhere that they and DJI more specifically mentioned in the baring of CCP company backed drones
Thanks Jack
Thanks for the info. In your opinion, what is the next best drone that you can recommend with the same or similar features as DJI?. Thanks in advance.
Here's the crazy part- there isn't
Autel is the closest and they are still way far away.
Fuck skydio
Specta
always like your videos!! i've heard this bill has not really passed the senate OR the house yet contrary to popular belief...hope that is correct. so much conflicting info out there.
It has passed in the house. Not the senate
@@HalfChrome oh boy...not good but a long way to go.
what about service and repairs?
Question if i buy an used mavic mini 1rst gen fly more combo for 200 (almost new) the guy got an upgrade and kept it as backup but didn't use it assuming is a good deal ,if i update the firmware now is it the same firmware that other new gen drones use or is an specific firmware for the first gen... and which one is the best one assuming there's a bad one , anyone know if updating is good or bad thing
Updating is fine.
Interesting...
I am thinking about buying a dji mini 4k in the next couple weeks. Do you think I should buy a cfly faith mini instead or is there any other good drones out for under 300 dollars that you would suggest right now with a good camera
I would go ahead and buy the DJI.
I would too
I've been looking at the Potensic Atom 3-axis. It ticks all the boxes I need, without geofencing.
I had been considering a DJI - but it kind of annoys me that they hobble the drones (Mini 2SE and 4K are unlikely to have SDK support - which means no waypoints/follow me amongst other things).
@LaurenceLDN it’s a good one. Not quite on par with DJI but not too far
What drones the Americans can buy after dji ban
Anything but new DJI
I think Dji should pay and get refund back to customers that by Dji drones!
Why? They aren’t banning themselves
i thought the ban was only for government use…
What if @ElonMusk buys 51% of DJI.. and changes the name to just "D". Can we get more of the "D" then?
Solid thinking.
An American used to be a 49% shareholder of DJI so it nearly happened.
He would call it DXI, though. He'll have to put an X somewhere
@@pocketlint82 lol.. of course.
This is disgraceful conduct from our government. Bought and paid for.
The federal govt had a set set of specific duties. They basically were to protect our rights and they all but do everything to the contrary. There's a deep rabbit hole behind the real truth and basically the US of A is a corporate entity residing in DC. If you consent to be governed by corporate law in place of common law well... You get the govt you now deserve.
Being European 🇪🇺.. I can’t understand how the politicians are so adamant doing this yet allow guns .. 🫠.. I guess none of them are flyers .. What about police /Rescue .. Agriculture..It’ll take a number of years for ban to take effect .. when drones need firmware, parts .. etc .. Better not crash .. I’m really sorry for you guys 🥲
Drones are clearly more dangerous.
The reply from some citizens would be “ well, the rights to guns is in the constitution “, drones are not. Ahhh, the 250 year old rule book.
just you wait. this b.s. will come to eu, too, they already did something similiar with china based evs. i hope i'm wrong, but i'm usually not..
Our forefathers created the second amendment so citizens can protect themselves from a tyrannical government. The whole push to put limits on the second amendment and restrict certain weapons is to take away our ability to overthrow a corrupt government. They don't teach that anymore in schools.
Aw, c'mon. We're crazy with our gun regulations too. Rather than ban or allow guns based off of safety, we have a complicated tangle of laws so that no one knows what you can or cannot do. Our ATF just shot a guy in the head for legally selling guns. The president's son was convicted of owning a gun while on drugs. And it took the supreme court to tell us that a gun stock is not the same as a machine gun. USA isn't a gun free-for all, instead it is a complicated mess from the two sides using guns as a political tool to get votes. We'd be better off if one side or the other won.
Just give us a clear answer and stop - jumping on the Ban band wagon. I've unsubbed from top drone reviewers in it for the click bait. As for Huawei - It has no Google Playstore ... Get it right.
He stated this was opinion based on what we know now. He gave his clearest answer. Are you daft?
There are people using Huawei phones in the US even without a Playstore. I’m not on the ban band wagon. It’s stupid but since I get questions about it daily I made a video. Click bait would imply my title or thumbnail are misleading. I presented what I know and provided links to resources.
You know the ban hasn't come in to effect...and that the exact details aren't clear. So what were you expecting?
(If there's no publicity/backlash against the ban, then it will inevitably happen. Better to have a constant tickover of exposure so that politicians can see that it's a bad move)
ban em all! let god sort em out!
Bro i swear everyones gonna riot on Mike Gallagher and Elise Stefanik the representatives that introduced the bill
If they're going to ban DJI drones and other Chinese technologies then they need to also put a stop to Chinese government buying farmland by any of the US military bases or buying any form when at all that kind of makes sense too do as well.
I own a DJI Spark and they don't make them anymore anyways so it won't affect the spark.
Congrats. Very nice video. Liked. All the best
Ty..Chrome ..been following your videos for couple years. Ty for clearing up some confusion
I purchased a DJI Mini 4 Pro 2 weeks ago, fully aware of a potential ban on them.
As for no new products coming from DJI, I think we'll still see new drones later this summer/fall because those are already in production and have already been granted their FCC license before this bill...I'm assuming. I don't think the government will revoke any existing FCC license on current drones in use.
This bill will push a lot of companies out of business, not to mention First Responders that rely DJI. Plus, I think any new drones that come onto the market that's not DJI will be so expensive that they'll be out of reach for most of us.
My Mini 4 Pro may be the first and last drone I own.
(I'm still waiting for TikTok to be banned? Has that happened yet?)
Its pushing America to the dark ages....
All because of skydio lobbing and crony capitalism
Its bullshit
As an FPV pilot I've never owned a DJI drone before and quite frankly never planned on it because I don't need all those fancy features. But since this whole ban thing started, I finally bought my first dji drone (mavic 3). I might get a mini as well.
Seriously. You guys must find a way to bypass the ban if it comes into force, we usually complain about our Brazilian government always sticking the nose in our drone business, including implementation of abusive tariffs on imports, but I see that you in the states are getting it even worse.
I was thinking about getting the avata 2 but could just get an actual fpv drone for cheaper
Been happy with my Air 2S for landscape photography/video, but had my eye on an Air 3 or Mavic 3 in the future if my usage went up. Now, I imagine, I have to decide now (before bill becomes law) if I want to upgrade or be left hanging.
There is absolutely nothing comforting about our current DJI drones not being grounded. Most of these drones are good for about 2 to 3 years before they become antiquated and or have problems. This means according to this video that if you’re lucky you have another two or three years to fly drones that will actually work for you and do what you want them to do, because there are no real alternatives to DJI drones. However, this is not what I heard coming from Ryan Latourrette when he was talking to Ken Herron, yet the belief that we will not be able to get and fly new DJI drones persists.
It is not about National Security. It is about a New York State Representative being in the pocket of Skydio (U.S.) to eliminate a key competitor (DJI = Chinese).
What happens if your current drone needs service or you broke props?
Order props. That’s not a problem.
The US Department of Defense has observed in Ukraine how a $600 consumer drone can be effective against a $10,000,000 M1 Abrams tank. They are likely considering how to address such asymmetries in future conflicts. While they strategize on a grand scale, many drone users may not fully grasp the complexity of these issues.
Went to bed in the USA and woke up in North Korea
What will happen to Hasselblad? I understand DJI wholy owned Hasselblad
If they have RF on them they will be added
Yes. That would make them a subsidiary if true.
I got a Air 2s no more drones for me
It’s a good one
Thanks much for posting the breakdown. It's greatly appreciated. I've been working on a business plan around the DJI Mavic 3 Multispectral drone which i haven't purchased yet. Incidentally, i really enjoyed your mapping video around the M3M. 👍 Simple question: based on this bill's passing, should I abandon that idea and look to an alternative drone with similar capabilities? Thx again and thx in advance!
There coming to get Your drones 😢
It's fucking wack
Halff Chrome I need your help pls, I do real estate but I need a drone that can follow me indoors (inside of the property) and also have a great camera maybe for outside as well some affordable option thank you
Not many options for follow me indoors.
DJI can lock out your account and then your drone is good for about 1 month if you recently signed in. If you use Fly App and cannot acces your account and sign in once a month your drone has limited flights [10] and parameters and then is bricked. No firmware download is needed for this to happen . The only DJI drones that are truly safe are those that use the Go app such as Mavic 2 and earlier. Downloading firmware is the only way to get bricked - totally false.
And why would DJI do this? Also you wouldn’t have to update the app.
DJI does it right now. The new requirement is you must log in every month as Dji logs you out every 30 days, that is to ensure you keep the flysafe data up to date. If DJI cant sell anything in the USA then what is the incentive to monitor and upkeep a million accounts and servers for a country they have been banned in?
The app really is only part of the problem, the DJI servers actually log you out of your account a month after you sign in, [it use to be 3 months] . You have no control over this,it insures you log into DJI once a month. If you cant sign in then your drone has 10 flights I believe before it is basically bricked by a very short height and distance limit. If you have no account to sign into - game over, drone is bricked.
DJI and users agreement - pay attention to the part where they can "terminate" your right to access your account or USE OF THE PRODUCT. ALSO the part that says YOU NEED AN ACCOUNT.
LIMITED LICENSE. DJI grants you a limited, non-sublicensable license to access and use the Product for their intended purposes only. YOU WILL NOT “HACK”, “CRACK”, MODIFY THE PRODUCT INCLUDING ITS FLIGHT SAFETY FEATURES. YOU WILL NOT OPERATE THE PRODUCT OVERRIDING THE FLIGHT SAFETY LIMITATION. ANY USE OF THE PRODUCT OTHER THAN AS SPECIFICALLY AUTHORIZED HEREIN, WITHOUT THE PRIOR WRITTEN PERMISSION OF DJI, IS STRICTLY PROHIBITED AND WILL TERMINATE YOUR RIGHT TO ACCESS YOUR ACCOUNT OR USE THE PRODUCT.
There's also a section on Eligibility and Your Obligations which explains you need a DJI account and you need to accept the updates.
I just want everybody that flies a drone, no matter the brand, to fully understand that hoping this will not affect your current DJI drone may be far from the truth and everybody needs to get off their a$$ and contact their representatives about this. DJI is just the first. The government is going to come after all of them.
Should we update now?
Yes
So you are saying we can still fly the drones we have even though they are banned?
1. They are not banned
2. Yes you will be able to fly them should a ban happen
@@HalfChrome so if I were to buy the mavic 3 pro now, I can still fly it even if the bill passed?
@geor1036 yes. That is the most likely scenario. Bill currently written bans future DJI products.
They can’t brick the 03 units in my quad right?
No
Not unless you willingly connect it to the internet and download firmware that bricks it.
@@HalfChrome ah thank you. No more firmware updates for me lol
After signed by bonehead Biden
But the orange clown would sign it too. This bill has far-right hands ALL over it. No matter the party affiliation of the president, they would sign it because it was snuck into the defense bill; and no one would NOT sign a bill funding the troops.