Bonjour Christoh, I had not seen this video. Successful test. indeed Like in my models, the feed pump slows the machine when it operates for the boiler. And the heat of the kettle is very efficient! Amicalement, Raphaël
thank you and excuse the unconvenient style... I should replace the camera man, one beer was to much that day... please watch also the movie showing all three maschines running simultaneously ... no seatbelt required :-)
as soon the water pump is pumping against the boiler pressure you may hear some 'knocking' sound but under lower workload is runs quite well. It is not a table top version it already pushes a bit of metal and I wonder how it sound after a few miles on water... by the way I adjusted a rather earlier timing in the maschine/valve. I learned during the building phase of the plant that also the resonance is changing with the amount of metal is grouped around the Stuart5A which is named in physics 'selfresonance' and audible at a certain speed/rpm.
In the meantime I arranged the timing of the maschine in the following way. Stuart 5A piston full down, the waterpump piston full in... this reduces the knocking completely exspecially when the metals are warmed up (less space between the metal joints and more balanced mechanical workload)... this was the trick
Und falls es mit dem Rumpf bzw dem Maschinenbett zu sehr rappelt empfehle ich die berühmte Bitumen-Antidröhnplatten aus dem Karosseriebau - einfach da einkleben wo es keiner sieht :p
Danke für die netten Worte (ich liebe halt Messing/Bronze ;-) ) und auch für den Tip... im Wasser ist es ja etwas leiser und der Abgleich Pumpenkolben (voll innnen) versus Zylinderkolben (voll unten) hat viel gebracht und die Maschine läuft sehr viel ruhiger (balanciert)... in diesem Video war sie noch nicht justiert...
I love the video and your workmanship. You put together a work of art :) That said, I'm a little concerned right at 3:50 when you speed the engine up. I heard distinctive squeaking As it accelerated. I hope that wasn't lack of oil on journals and such. Do you think it was maybe gland packing?... Just curious on your thought. Beautiful video.I want to see her on the water now :)
Thank you very much Paul for your kind comments. You have very sensitive ears! You are right, but I do not know the reason at this time for it?! In the meantime the boat was several times on water and please listen to the most recent video (up to three maschines running at the same time) starting at 25:29 ruclips.net/video/4UDuxc5m8Jc/видео.html (steam turbine just shut off) only Stuart 5A and Southworth running... no squeaking sound... I think one reasone could be that the steam plant was in the old video 'brand new' and all the connection has to 'worn out' in the new adjusted mechanical arrangements. Now it runs like a swiss clock . Also the mechanical lubricator provides oil to alle major journals by pipes. I recently replaced some glands in the water pump due to leaking at higher pressure conditions over 75 psi. I also had to replace the brass gear in the steam turbine and the chinese producer was so kind to made me new ones made of steel :-) I tested finally all the maschines parallel which worked :-) and now all is fine. AMPHORA will see the water early next spring because I cleaned the boiler for the winter period. Than I will see if it also pumps water directly from outside under the hull... Cant wait to cruise!
@@mattseymour8637 I have no experience with a 3.5 inch loco, but why not and usung a nut cracker and make fingernail big pieces :-) and mix it also with grill wood coal at lhe beginning... I think Keith Appleton knows iz very well... Stay healthy and enjoy the winter :-)
@@The123pcr thanks for the advice, I actually have the right size already in small sizes and tend to mix it 50/50 standard steam coal and Welsh steam. But wondered what you suggested. Stay safe too and keep steaming!
Matt Seymour I start always with the sulfur and gas containing locomotive coal and later add some anthracite coal at lower percentages as 30% ... the anthracite coal generates more heat but needs the locomotive coal to keep glowing
thank you. It is a two tube design I developed during my vacation in greece at the beach (a bit boring only sun)... see this special video ruclips.net/video/WBVqkxo2ceM/видео.htmlOne bigger big brass tube contains a smaller brass tube with wholes at the bottom (they are silver soldered to a brass base plate).... the water runs from the top into the center One which contains special fabrics which binds oil as a filter and the water flows at the bottom of the center One to the outer tube where it goes finally back to the hot sink... the fabric is taken out after a while and may be burned in the coal fire... To your first Question where to by phosphate or soda... unfortunately I cannot open this questio or read it fully... please ask again sorry ;)
Is the engine run at 1 to 1 with the prop shaft or is there any gearing? I build Models and was asked what to do when you cannot increase the propeller size, I suggested gearing the ratio between the two, having the prop run at twice the engine speed and as wondering if it is done with full size boats.
I run it 1 to 1 and the speed you see in the video shipping on water is at 50 psi pressure. For me this was fast than enough. If one would run it at 80 psi with more heat it would almost leave the water :-) So I don't see a reason to increase the speed by a gear... you would loose some of the power in the gear and generate also more mechanical noise. My prob has an diameter of 30 cm with a good pitch...
It is a mix of 33 percent anthracite and 66 bituminous... polish locomotive coal... Zeche KWK Myslowice Wesola Steinkohle vom Typ 32,1 Körnung 40-80 mm Heizwert (Qri) MJ/kg 30-31.5. Asche (Ar) 3,0-5,0 % Schwefel (Srt) 0,4-0,60 % Wasser (Wrt) 4,0-6,0 % Flüchtige Bestandteile (Vdaf) 32,12% Sinterung (RI) 22 Chlor (Cla) 0,27% the bituminous coal generates enough gas to keep the fire burning and burns the anthracite part... kind regards Christoph
yes... if it would be pure gold the polishing would be easier :-)... Do you have a pump linked to it, than balancing of the load (cylinder piston fully downside at the same time pump cylinder fully inside) could be a way to reduce noise and running the maschine for a while help also a lot... anyhow the sound is really very much the same in AMPHORA, thank you for sharing it!
My waterpump is a cross head pump so cannot amend, my knocking is more likely main bearings. Someone cannot remember the name did gold plate their fittings!! Have you been out on the water steaming much?
please see the video me steaming the first time, ruclips.net/video/W-26I2FtpfM/видео.html now I finished the Southworth pump which will be tested soon on water again...
Beautiful - !
What a beauty! the quality shown in the details is absolutely fantastic. Well done
Thank you!
Extraordinarily beautiful! Good work, mate!
thank you took me 2 years :-)
Omg it's amazing !!! I love your copper Coal shovel and holder !!
thank you!
Bonjour Christoh,
I had not seen this video. Successful test. indeed Like in my models, the feed pump slows the machine when it operates for the boiler. And the heat of the kettle is very efficient!
Amicalement, Raphaël
such a wonderful thing to see these old steam boats being brought back to life i'd wished there were more around.
thank you and it was build from zero... it took y 5 years... a lot of nights... :-)
That boat lookin fresh
thank you
I only know what half this does, and mainly only because I've been watching Keith's videos, but my lord that boat is gorgeous!
Thank you :-)
Steam Plants C Schaefer very welcome. Do you still have her and sail her?
great to see a beautiful engine.......please put you camera on a tripod in one place,,,...very diificult to enjoy.....video needs to be horizontal
thank you and my last videos are better produced :-)
What you allowed us to see looked fantastic, it would have been nice to see the boat in it's entirety.
ruclips.net/video/W-26I2FtpfM/видео.html 😊
great work. I fell off my bloody chair trying to watch it sideways though !
thank you and excuse the unconvenient style... I should replace the camera man, one beer was to much that day... please watch also the movie showing all three maschines running simultaneously ... no seatbelt required :-)
I do feel sorry for the propshaft gland not being water cooled while you thrash it! But lovely set up!
Thank you!... was not runnig to long and a lot of grease was present 😉...
very shiny. lots of love has gone into this, hey?
thank you :-)
i'm trining to Figure out how to build a boiler and trying to build it right
You need to be certified & licensed to do that.
Lovely looking steam plant but why is it knocking?
as soon the water pump is pumping against the boiler pressure you may hear some 'knocking' sound but under lower workload is runs quite well. It is not a table top version it already pushes a bit of metal and I wonder how it sound after a few miles on water... by the way I adjusted a rather earlier timing in the maschine/valve. I learned during the building phase of the plant that also the resonance is changing with the amount of metal is grouped around the Stuart5A which is named in physics 'selfresonance' and audible at a certain speed/rpm.
In the meantime I arranged the timing of the maschine in the following way.
Stuart 5A piston full down, the waterpump piston full in... this reduces the knocking completely exspecially when the metals are warmed up (less space between the metal joints and more balanced mechanical workload)... this was the trick
Respekt, das ist Dir ausgesprochen gut gelungen! :) Wirklich beeindruckend, vor allem die Liebe zum Detail.
Und falls es mit dem Rumpf bzw dem Maschinenbett zu sehr rappelt empfehle ich die berühmte Bitumen-Antidröhnplatten aus dem Karosseriebau - einfach da einkleben wo es keiner sieht :p
Danke für die netten Worte (ich liebe halt Messing/Bronze ;-) ) und auch für den Tip... im Wasser ist es ja etwas leiser und der Abgleich Pumpenkolben (voll innnen) versus Zylinderkolben (voll unten) hat viel gebracht und die Maschine läuft sehr viel ruhiger (balanciert)... in diesem Video war sie noch nicht justiert...
I love the video and your workmanship. You put together a work of art :) That said, I'm a little concerned right at 3:50 when you speed the engine up. I heard distinctive squeaking As it accelerated. I hope that wasn't lack of oil on journals and such. Do you think it was maybe gland packing?... Just curious on your thought. Beautiful video.I want to see her on the water now :)
Thank you very much Paul for your kind comments. You have very sensitive ears! You are right, but I do not know the reason at this time for it?! In the meantime the boat was several times on water and please listen to the most recent video (up to three maschines running at the same time) starting at 25:29 ruclips.net/video/4UDuxc5m8Jc/видео.html (steam turbine just shut off) only Stuart 5A and Southworth running... no squeaking sound... I think one reasone could be that the steam plant was in the old video 'brand new' and all the connection has to 'worn out' in the new adjusted mechanical arrangements. Now it runs like a swiss clock . Also the mechanical lubricator provides oil to alle major journals by pipes. I recently replaced some glands in the water pump due to leaking at higher pressure conditions over 75 psi. I also had to replace the brass gear in the steam turbine and the chinese producer was so kind to made me new ones made of steel :-) I tested finally all the maschines parallel which worked :-) and now all is fine. AMPHORA will see the water early next spring because I cleaned the boiler for the winter period. Than I will see if it also pumps water directly from outside under the hull... Cant wait to cruise!
Thanks for that so if I use Russian steam coal first then some anthracite or mix it ?
Start with polish coal and add later a mix...
@@The123pcr will do that, I have the Russian steam coal but will use that then the Welsh. Is it the same for a 3.5 inch loco?
@@mattseymour8637 I have no experience with a 3.5 inch loco, but why not and usung a nut cracker and make fingernail big pieces :-) and mix it also with grill wood coal at lhe beginning... I think Keith Appleton knows iz very well...
Stay healthy and enjoy the winter :-)
@@The123pcr thanks for the advice, I actually have the right size already in small sizes and tend to mix it 50/50 standard steam coal and Welsh steam. But wondered what you suggested. Stay safe too and keep steaming!
Thanks do you recommend mixing that percentage in a 3.5 inch loco ?
Matt Seymour I start always with the sulfur and gas containing locomotive coal and later add some anthracite coal at lower percentages as 30% ... the anthracite coal generates more heat but needs the locomotive coal to keep glowing
@@The123pcr makes sense and will try that so the anthracite takes hold better.
Thanks will try that
Nice steam boiler. What coal are you using ?
Polish steam locomotive coal 70% and anthracite coal 30%
Really wonderful boat ! What design did you use for the oil/water seperator in the condenser ?
thank you. It is a two tube design I developed during my vacation in greece at the beach (a bit boring only sun)... see this special video ruclips.net/video/WBVqkxo2ceM/видео.htmlOne bigger big brass tube contains a smaller brass tube with wholes at the bottom (they are silver soldered to a brass base plate).... the water runs from the top into the center One which contains special fabrics which binds oil as a filter and the water flows at the bottom of the center One to the outer tube where it goes finally back to the hot sink... the fabric is taken out after a while and may be burned in the coal fire...
To your first Question where to by phosphate or soda... unfortunately I cannot open this questio or read it fully... please ask again sorry ;)
Is it a water tube boiler or fire tube
firetube 15 tubes
@@The123pcr thanks
marvellous project
Thank you
Steam Plants C Schaefer your wellcome!
Is it just me, or that knocking sound is a sign of something being completely off? Like the timing or some loose piece somewhere
This video is 3 years old and in the meantime the boat is driven and runs like a swiss clock ;-))
When you were panning the camera there was something covered in polished wood just behind the engine. Is that a gear set down to the propeller shaft?
not a gear... it is a duble cardan coupling,,, I protect it by the wood tunnel from fingers...
Is the engine run at 1 to 1 with the prop shaft or is there any gearing? I build Models and was asked what to do when you cannot increase the propeller size, I suggested gearing the ratio between the two, having the prop run at twice the engine speed and as wondering if it is done with full size boats.
I run it 1 to 1 and the speed you see in the video shipping on water is at 50 psi pressure. For me this was fast than enough. If one would run it at 80 psi with more heat it would almost leave the water :-) So I don't see a reason to increase the speed by a gear... you would loose some of the power in the gear and generate also more mechanical noise. My prob has an diameter of 30 cm with a good pitch...
Is it a fire tube boiler?
yes
please see the end of this video ;-) ruclips.net/video/5qzVlZFUTb4/видео.html
Lovely engine and boiler. What coal are you using?
Thank you... it is polish locomotive coal 60%, a mix with pure anthracit coal 40%... I get it in switzerland at the rhine river harbour Basel ...
Cool. Does it burn well and give good heat mixed like that ?
wonderful
Thank you
VERY, VERY NICE !!!!! would like to see in the water
thank you :-) ruclips.net/video/W-26I2FtpfM/видео.html
I have bended my neck!
Nice boat!
thank you :-)
3:34 you are sure you dont damage your Engine while run without water?
no problem a lot of oel and steam... ;-)
wonderful! Too bad most of it was video taped sideways
Thank you and sorry for the neck pain...
the new videos are better recorded :-)
You need a balanced gauge with glycerine
upside down!?
Very nice boat, but you holding the camera sideway made almost unwatchable.
What kind of coal is that? Anthracite or bituminous?
It is a mix of 33 percent anthracite and 66 bituminous... polish locomotive coal... Zeche KWK Myslowice Wesola
Steinkohle vom Typ 32,1
Körnung 40-80 mm
Heizwert (Qri) MJ/kg 30-31.5.
Asche (Ar) 3,0-5,0 %
Schwefel (Srt) 0,4-0,60 %
Wasser (Wrt) 4,0-6,0 %
Flüchtige Bestandteile (Vdaf) 32,12%
Sinterung (RI) 22
Chlor (Cla) 0,27%
the bituminous coal generates enough gas to keep the fire burning and burns the anthracite part... kind regards Christoph
So much for your Cutless Bearing with NO WATER !!!!!!!!!!!!!
will come
It would have been worth watching if the picture was not sideways !
I asked Steven Spielberg to improve the video, no response yet ;-)
Nice , but you have a lot of brass to polish. My 5A makes the same noise,
yes... if it would be pure gold the polishing would be easier :-)... Do you have a pump linked to it, than balancing of the load (cylinder piston fully downside at the same time pump cylinder fully inside) could be a way to reduce noise and running the maschine for a while help also a lot... anyhow the sound is really very much the same in AMPHORA, thank you for sharing it!
My waterpump is a cross head pump so cannot amend, my knocking is more likely main bearings. Someone cannot remember the name did gold plate their fittings!! Have you been out on the water steaming much?
please see the video me steaming the first time, ruclips.net/video/W-26I2FtpfM/видео.html now I finished the Southworth pump which will be tested soon on water again...
That is magnificent
thank you :-))))
very beautiful
thank you very much
Ok you mean my Russian equivalent?
Yes!
EXELENTE! tambien tengo mi proyecto
Very nice.
Thank you :-)
Open the air flue!
Sorry what air flue?
Сириусу больше не наливать...сам то смотрел что наснимал
Pity, beautiful work but awful recording!
Would you rather like a beautiful recording of an ugly work ? Please see my latest videos I am constantly learning :-)
@@The123pcr Maybe beautiful work with decent recording ?😊 However, poorly recorded video does not diminish the success of the overall project !