the amount of comments saying my cat shouldn't be vegan,,, CAT IS MY VERY HUMAN FRIEND WHOM LIVES WITH ME, y'all clearly do not listen to our podcast smh. white veganism and oppression from within the vegan community is a huge problem. for more very important information about it i highly recommend notcorry's video: ruclips.net/video/wjE-KoPCZuw/видео.html please give it a watch, it helped to educate me further about my own veganism and i think it’s an excellent and very important video.
damn i never knew u were gonna make a video abt the vegan teacher! but ty for calling her out, she deserves to be called out bc she’s rude and messed up
Yeah, I think she turned many of veganism when she told a minor she was going to hell for not being vegan. I myself for health reasons can't be vegan but I have been vegetarian for 6 and 1/2 years. Also, I was really appalled by her when she used the murder of George Floyd to promote veganism.
ikr. She also compared veganism to the gas chambers from the holocaust. Due to health reasons I cannot be vegetarian or anything like that. (low iron, low vitamin d, tree nut allergy) and to say I am an awful human for having to eat meat- is so disrespectful
@@k.k.2820 it actually can be! Her dog isn't getting enough protein and vitamins because all of those come from the meat dogs eat! This can harm the dog in the long run and make them more fragile and susceptible to bone injury.
i'm a vegetarian bc i have an eating disorder. i can't eat m*at anymore but when i can't cut off chokolate or other sweets bc it triggers bulimia. so yeah, but i think i'll become a vegan soon, when i move to another country that has more vegan options.
I am black and vegan. In no fucking way is being vegan more oppressive than the color of my skin. edit: future me is ashamed of my bootlicking, i get attacked more for my veganism 100%, no longer an apologist, but none of that really matters, it’s about the animals edit: even more future me is now in between points, i am an intersectionalist, i am in my final form, i have ascended
when that vegan teacher compared being vegan to the struggles that LGBTQ+ people, people of colour and women face was disgusting. vegan people aren’t abused and oppressed for being themselves. ‘vegan phobia’ doesn’t exist. also, being made fun of for being vegan is absolutely NOWHERE comparable for domestic abuse. she’s giving vegans a bad name. sorry for the rant, everyone have a lovely day
@@miimicry exactly. I'm vegan, but I usually don't tell people unless they are interested or if it makes a difference for places to eat out and stuff. Therefore, most people in my life don't even know I'm vegan. You can't hide your skin tone or certain disabilities. Yes, lgbtq+ people could choose not to come out to someone, but that's just not even remotely comparable.
not to mention shes making it seem like being hated on for being vegan is somehow worse than what the animals are going through?? like yeah i hate being made fun of for being vegan but i take it because i know im doing my best to help the animals and my suffering is nothing compared to theirs
It is not comparable. People hate the extregans, as she says, due to ther extremism. LGBTQ+ people, people of a darker skin color, and women have all been oppressed and still are in some places. There are 71 countries where it is illegal to be LGBTQ+ and countless countries where women are still being oppressed in, as well as racism still being a problem even if it isn't as extreme as it was in, say, the early 1800s.
I knew a vegan lady once. She was in a peer-led cooking class I was in, actually. She would not eat any of the food we made, but she was happy enough to help us make it and if the recipe allowed it, she'd bring in vegan substitutes for things (we made personal pizzas once and she brought in vegan toppings for hers). She told us that she was taking the recipes home and finding ways to make them vegan for herself and would share her changes if we wanted to know them. She also encouraged us to try some of the vegan substitutes she brought in so we could see if we liked it. Sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't, but the fact that she didn't force feed it to us made us more willing to give it a chance. She's also how I learned that you could use mashed banana in place of eggs and I tried it once and my cake turned out amazing. She was a really nice lady and since she didn't force her diet on us, we one day all decided to make vegan burgers so that she could eat the food without having to bring in a substitute (we voted on the recipes ahead of time). Definitely a good example of positive influence making us more willing to try something.
As a person with autism who is extremely sensitive to foods and drinks, i literally cannot go vegan because there are already so few foods (mostly, unfortunately, vegetables) i can eat without throwing up.... Edit; thanks everyone for being so positive and kind.... it makes me really happy
I’m autistic but my senses aren’t that intense. Despite that, fruits and vegetables are always either soo crunchy or soft, it feels so icky. Which sucks so badddd :-(
Same here! I'm not that sensitive to textures but to tastes and there aren't many "safe" foods for me to eat. Add some health problems to that and I'm kind of stuck. I really REALLY want to quit drinking milk but it's the only thing can I drink that doesn't upset my stomach or my brain. I've tried different kinds of milk but I just feel nauseous. I don't know what to do. :(
@@Lewisiaisoutofcontext I'd say to not limit yourself to vegan foods or something.... find out what you can eat, no matter what it is, and then try to see if there are any alternatives near you that work... Talking to someone you trust always helps too :)
When she said “don’t be homophobic” yet she admitted that being apart of the LGBTQ+ community is a way to seek attention and isn’t valid... how does that make sense from her wording like????
When you talked about the dangers of going vegan when you have an ED - YES. This whole video was brilliant, but that part especially hit me. Thank you addressing it and I hope this sentiment gets adopted by the vegan community as a whole.
on the other hand tho, i became vegan because of eating difficulties and i know this is NOT everyone and i am aware of how its not good for many people and i would never be able to even FATHOM someone else with serious (or ANY) EDs forcing themselves to veganism, but veganism has helped me feel more comfortable with what im eating (idk if that makes sense and i hope im not upsetting anyone else with EDs bc i know how hard it is) but yh, her point is super valid, not everyone can be vegan for their own health. im aware that there are days that still get bad but those are lesser now and at least i can get in a meal a day rather that a snack a week (snack which were not healthy and were fat ladden and made me feel super icky but i ate bc i needed the energyto get through skl, but then i ended up sleeping for 13+ hours on saturdays AND sundays) (also im sry this is long, i over share a lot sometimes lol, but i guess it might be good for people to know this? but noone go vegan if you have EDs and you think this might affect you, pls pls pls dont do that)
I have a history of atypical anorexia (basically the eating patterns, thoughts and behaviour associated with anorexia, but not yet underweight). Food rules are not my friend. I’m happy with trying to incorporate more plants, and reducing meat, but strict rules send me down a bad road. I’m really glad she addressed that point.
@@Silkenray helena rose could be an interesting youtube creator for you. She went vegan during/for her recovery journey and makes wonderful videos. The way she talks about food and adresses veganism to me seems very accepting, non-harmful and informed. I hope you have a wonderful day and great health 💕
Its so infuriating when that vegan teacher compares racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, etc to being vegan. I've been assaulted for being disabled and to have it compared to some kids trolling you on the internet saying its basically the same feels like a slap in the face.
I agree, like I’m bi and I don’t get much for it, like all I got was being called a fag once. Ya see, I’m not oppressed. I’m not bullied. But nowadays the minute anyone gets called an idiot or smth they start telling everyone they’re oppressed, and it means that people like you who’re actually oppressed aren’t listened to and it sucks ass. I’m rly sorry man, I just hope it gets better for ya.
@BEFM Reddit My cat captures, plays with, and tortures bugs to death before eating them. Does that mean I have license to treat my cat like shit because its a predator?
"what about people on food stamps?" THANK YOU for saying that. A good chunk of my food budget comes from food assistance which is between $200-300 a *month* so getting enough to eat is soooo hard, and I often don't have energy to prepare meals and premade vegan food is expensive, especially since my bf and I both have specific medical diets. (My doctor specifically told me not to cut anymore foods than what my intolerance requires.) We'd both *love* to be vegan, but as it is, we can't manage. We don't eat much meat or dairy but a lot of shelter food isn't vegan so we don't often have a choice. Being disabled, trans, and poor we have a lot of hurdles before we could comfortably and healthily be vegan, especially since we both have unhealthy relationships with food that border on ED. Needless to say I do get tired of people not being sympathetic to my "excuses". So thanks for thinking of others so kindly.
As someone who wishes to become vegan but can't because of sensory issues, seeing her say stuff like that is super harmful. I'm not in charge of buying my own food and I have sensory issues that leaves me unable to eat certain foods. Her saying there's 'no excuse' to not be vegan is so harmful, she needs to realise that for some people, being vegan is impossible.
I have sensory issues too but I can eat raw vegetables and plain food, so if I took out the food that’s meat and comes from an animal I’d just have fruit and plain pasta
I'm vegan. I have a terrible clothing addiction, I have a car, I use too much plastic... I am trying, just like we are all trying, but just because I am vegan, it doesn't even mean that I am doing better than other people who are not vegan. But then I couldn't do my job without driving. We all just need to try to do our best and think about changing the things that we can change. Just do what you can other than being vegan. Just try. You don't owe some random bitch on the internet anything. You don't have to be vegan to be trying to do better, and doing better is for you to monitor, and for you to work out. Maybe that is why so many vegans on YT are like this- because you are not making these changes to please others or be praised by others. Maybe these people can't stand making that much effort without attention... so they attack people online. Anyway- the worst thing about being vegan, is definitely other vegans.
I've talked so much about the vegan teacher with friends... because she forces her dog to be vegan, curses, forces her beliefs on people, and uhhh seemed to make in fun of someone's death when she saw a comment saying someone died from going vegan because of her.
I would assume she wants them to force their parents into veganism. Veganism is expensive. I couldn't go vegan because vegan food is just too expensive, I wouldn't be able to afford it.
@@cary1056 veganism is not expensive, most natural foods are already by default vegan, the knly thing that makes it expensive is if someone buys a huge amout of unnecessary substitutes (fake sausages etc)
@@Volzotran I live in a small town in Canada. Transportation costs make it expensive. A lot of our produce is imported. Edit: I don't really want to go vegan. I'm always on the edge of anemia and constantly low on keratin. I'd rather put in a little work to help fix the system, since that's really what's hurting the animals.
@@cary1056 the only food that is no vegan are from animals, but most of the food that exists in general are by default vegan like rice and various other grains, every vegetable and fruit etc etc, I'm also not trying to convince you to go vegan, just wanted to clarify that this whole myth that veganism is mote expensive is not true and a lame excuse.
That Vegan Teacher looks like that one teacher in my kindergarten who would scream at the kids for accidentally spilling their juice. She made kids cry so hard that they’d get headaches.
the fact that she told a minor that they were going to hell bcuz they weren't vegan disgusts me. Its not that easy being vegan because some people cant afford that and they need to eat fast food. As a vegetarian, I cant eat meat because it messes up with my system and its hard for me to still find food that isnt meat because my family isnt able to give me what i need that isnt meat.
Being a vegetarian that lives close to a hotdog place with vegetarian options, where my boyfriend works, I eat £4 veggiedogs almost weekly. And almost every time the word “veggiedog” comes out of my mouth, a preteen girl will try to flame me for being vegan. I have to explain to this, like, 13 year old that no, I’m not vegan, I’m vegetarian. 9/10 times they’ll compare me to the Vegan Teacher and I just have to sit there while these girls have mental breakdowns and tape me on IGLive trying to tell all 12 of their viewers that there’s this crazy vegan man is in a hotdog restaurant. I get my veggiedog and they usually follow me to my table, trying to ask me how it feels to be ‘exposed for being an idiot.’ Several times now, my boyfriend has had to show up to his workplace while he’s off shift. He, almost daily, puts on his apron purely to chase off these crazy children. His coworker had to call the police one time, as one of the girls’ parents decided to try to hit me upside the head with a broken plate. Apparently, having an employee tell your kid off for harassing someone is enough to attempt to cut someone’s head open.
@@lotusprincess7 I’m used to it. There are some loonies in my area that insist that eating 98% meat and 2% dairy products in their diet is the only way to live,
My household is going vegan, but we're not jumping into it right away, we are weaning ourselves from all the non-vegan foods we ate. Also just eating the rest of the non-vegan food in our house.
I’m glad that Savannah called this old stick out, and I’m also glad that she actually got the right kind of knowledge about veganism and doesn’t force anyone, yet understands other peoples situations. Keep it up! :D
she is… when she talked about abusive relationships I was seriously nauseous and afraid 😰 she seems like she would seriously beat or even kill someone for not being vegan like how can you be so extreme…
The large companies who produce dairy are definitely horrible, but there are lots of small dairy farmers where I live in the US and the cows and goats are treated wonderfully. We could go to their little shop, grab a gallon of milk, and go visit the cows and goats that made it. They weren't given steroids because the shop didn't rely on that. The cows had space to run around, raise their babies, they had names, everything. The kids of the family got sad when the animals got older and died. Small local farmers can be very ethical to buy from.
Yeah, I'm a minor and live with my parents so I don't have as much of a say in what we buy (but my parents are encouraging me to write down anything I want to eat on the grocery list). My mom buys a ton of milk, ice cream, cheese, and other dairy products from a small dairy farm. The farmers there devised a machine that milks the cows in a more natural way. They always have some baby goats and a baby cow in a little area near the building and the kids are always delighted (myself included, lol) to pet the animals and feed them weeds and grass they rip out of the ground. Away from the main building, there is a giant field where the other cows run around freely and it's enlightening how these farmers treat their animals with care.
Totally! There’s a lot of businesses who are trying to be better in the dairy process and even who take care of the animals before using them for meat. A few people have began to start honoring animals and there lives and it’s a good step to making improvement
im looking into more ethical ways to buy dairy and was wondering, how do you find local dairy farms around your area like this? im a minor, and knew to the whole vegan idea, and don't really know how to persuade my family to go vegan, let alone change how we shop. but i really wanna learn of alternatives just in case I can
@@musikluv6 they're a bit hard to find, the reason I know about ours is because we were friends of their family since I was a toddler. You could look on Google maps for a farmers market or for a small dairy supplier, but the best way is to ask someone in your area for a recommendation
Do you know how any cow comes to produce milk? They have to be pregnant and in order to bottle and sell the milk to humans, their babies have to be separated from them. After this, the calf will be sold to slaughter because it's not economically viable to keep them around. This happens regardless of where you get your milk from. Do not pay for dairy!
As someone who has been battling/reasoning/compromising with the anorexia part of my brain (I named them Delilah) for 15 years I really appreciate you acknowledging the issue.
I can’t be vegan, as vegetables and fruits have to many carbs for me to eat every day because of my diabetes. Meat is one of the only things I can eat throughout the day because of either low-carbs or no carbs. I am a Type-1 Diabetic, and to many carbs could make my blood sugar go so high that it would cause Major Health Risks.
aww! I can't be vegan or vegetarian because i am low vitamin d, low calcium, and have a deadly tree nut allergy. Plus im a minor so i dont buy the groceries anyways xD
I’m in a similar boat, though for me it’s texture issues due to neurodivergence as opposed to a independent health issue. Would be too much of a mental(and likely physical as well since I probably wouldn’t eat as much in general) toll if I cut animal products out of my diet
EXACTLY !! i wrote a whole comment about how vegans like vegan teacher can be ableist and anti-indigenous because native peoples have sustainably eaten animals for centuries, and many disabled and chronically ill folks (like myself) simply can't go vegan for health reasons or even economic reasons since disabled people are disproportionately economically disadvantaged. going vegan is great, but it can literally kill people. shaming others for not being vegan is simply disgusting.
There are so many reason why people can’t go vegan: Gluten allergy Nut allergy Sensory issues Eating disorders Mental health issues (like depression) Iron deficiency Money issues Homelessness Abusive households Other family issues And many many many many more reasons. I personally want to be vegan but I can’t because I live at home rn and my family isn’t willing to pay for me to be vegan. In today’s society there are more reasons to not be vegan than to be vegan.
This is such bullshit. I have gluten allergy. If you read the definition of veganism you would know it's about excluding animal exploitation as much as possible and practical. A homeless person can become vegan even if they have no choice but to eat meat sometimes.
No one ever mentions illiteracy, I witnessed a group of vegans shun another vegan for buying the wrong packet food. This person had severe dyslexia and learning disabilities that led to illiteracy...the product only had honey in it.
Most of the people who have the ‘everyone can be vegan’ mentality, ignore all the reasons why people can’t go vegan. Most people I met with this mentality didn’t even experience these things or not in the extreme. If I would go vegan I’d die, because of my medical issues and mental issues.
whenever “cat” and would instantly think the animal, but then remember “Cat” is a human lol. but just a friendly reminder not to push your dietary choices onto your pets, it isn’t healthy for them. edit: fixed my horrid spelling
@@KatsCraftNook savannah mentioned that cat is also vegan and a lot of people thought she was forcing her cat to be vegan which would be bad, but Cat is the name of her human friend who lives with her
Most of my family drinks almond milk and we go through it really quick. Mainly because we use it in coffee, cereal, smoothies, and some other stuff. My sister is really the only one that drinks whole milk and stuff like that.
Some people can't go vegan; My body doesn't fold a particular protein correctly. If I don't consume meat at least 3 times week, my immune system crashes. Last time I went vegetarian, I felt wonderful all the way up until I was hospitalized for a week because I had almost no white blood cells, and was getting my butt absolutely kicked by food poisoning from contaminated lettuce. Also, I felt so wonderful because my auto-immune issues aren't an issue when I have no immune system...
Yeah, and being LGBTQ is definitely a choice, right? Which is why it’s the same degree of oppression as being vegan. And you can _definitely_ change what race you are, right?
@Reagan's America dude, seriously, gay and black people are oppressed, I saw you on another guys thread who said he was black and you said that in America his skin colour wasn’t discriminated against. Dude. What are you on about.
@All American Teen 1) I won’t deny that point without evidence so I’d appreciate a link 2) yes, they don’t make you oppressed. Some people will oppress you because of it though.
As someone who's vegan for almost 3 years now, thank you for this video, especially the last part of it. Yes, vegan activism is important, yes, it's important to advocate for animal's rights, but nothing can be achieved by downright attacking people. Most omnivores are not aware of how cruel meat & diary industries are, and telling them that they're the Antichrist because of a choice they made while they were uninformed just sounds counter-productive. Imho it's way more effective if you simply talk with them as a friend and get your points across, and show them some cool vegan cooking so they know plant-based food is not just salads and veggies, but can be really tasty and fun. Also, how dare she talk about empathy and then talk down to people who suffer from EDs is beyond my understanding.
100% this. Also, if her goal is animal activism, and she happens to have lots of energy and motivation to call people out, she would probably be more effective going after the actual meat industry & the people getting rich off it, instead of random people on the Internet.
I have a disability that requires an extremely heigh salt diet in order for me to just...function. The easiest way to get salt is meat (slim Jim’s) and chips. If I wanted to go vegan (or even vegetarian) I would need to go to a dietitian...I can’t afford that with all the other doctors I have.
Salt? For high salt intakes you could just add salt to anything, that way you get a more balanced diet, if that is the case? I don't think chips in general are a source of salt? A source of salt is salt.
@@kellyvega6372 that’s true, and I do that anyway. But generally chips aren’t that healthy. Yes the best source of salt is just salt, and I always over salt my food (I make a lot of eggs because you can typically add a whole lot of salt and hardly really taste it). But meat is generally naturally salty and I add salt to it to make it even more high in sodium. To go vegan would be removing eggs (one of my go tos for high salt) as well as meat and cheese (that also has salt). Of course there is chips but that isn’t super healthy, I can’t really survive on chips.
When I first went vegetarian, I found that I was getting dizzy pretty often. My mom took me to the doctor. They found it was because I wasn’t taking in as much salt. I was a teenager and was really quite surprised that could be a thing. At that age, salt equaled unhealthy because people always talked about the dangers of taking in too much sodium. I know better now. Our bodies need fat and sodium. Many take in too much, but taking in too little can be just as bad. I will say, other aspects of my health improved from cutting out meat. My body doesn’t digest fat (especially animal fat) very well. I used to get majorly bad stomach cramps and not be able to relieve myself for weeks at a time.
Thank Jamie, from Jammidodger, for bringing me here. I've seen maybe 1 or 2 of your videos before but I've only just now subbed. I can't fault your video but the main reason why I subscribed is the comment section. Anyone who brings together such a wholesome group is worth sticking around for.
I have tried to be vegetarian as a child, but I had several sensory issues that have been getting more severe over time, so it didn't last. If I were to switch to vegetarian or vegan, I would be lacking in a lot of nutrients because of my sensitivities, so I just kinda stick to my current way of eating
The tiktok a bit before 19:34 really creeped me out. She doesn’t realize how much that kinda can scare some people. I hate that one so much. “The dead bodies of animals who died begging for their lives”. Sheesh. So creepy. Seriously, this woman is apparently so empathetic to animals but lacks the empathy needed to understand that scaring minors into veganism is bad. On an unrelated side note she has a higher voice than I do and I’m in middle school. Assigned female at birth… sorry had to note this cuz im transmasc-
Thank You. Everyone Looks At Me Like I Have Problems When I Say I Don't Eat & Will Never Eat Salad....Which...I Do...But Not Due/Related To My Lack Of Salad Consumption.😤
the vegan teacher like actually scares me sm. she makes vegans look so bad , like i understand wanting to put out the idea of being vegan to other people but she's trying to shove it down people's throat.
yeah. shes a very good reason why people think vegans are angry and shes not really encouraging anyone. its really annoying cause shes driving people *away* from the idea
I wonder how vegans feel about video games like Minecraft where you can kill animals and such, I mean you can def choose not to but if you're playing in survival you'd have to eat a lotta apples and mushroom soup I guess./j Edit (7 months later): I should probably add a tone indicator here (I added it) but I get it, I was just joking with this comment, but I genuinely was curious what they thought, but even months later I've considered making more vegan choices and I understand it's literally just a video game and not real life ofc, with the many examples of other video games that are not ethical irl (like shooting games & stuff.)
As a person of color and of the lgbtq+ community, when she said racism and homophobia is just as oppressive as "veganphobia" literally made me feel sick
yeah this person said their friend died because they followed her advice and refused to eat meat or be vegan safely, because thatveganteacher doesnt explain how to do that and instead just forced veganism on people. she mocked the commenter and laughed at the dead friend
Let's not forget she made/posted a song called I Can't Breathe in June 2020 which was about veganism and wrote "all lives matter" in the description box... If that ain't the most disrespectful shit I've ever seen idk what is.
That made me ill, she also in that 'song' used the term 'auchwitz truck' in reference to an animal activist (I think) getting hit with a truck. It's disturbing, upvoting your comment
Her focusing on ‘veganphobia’ as opposed to actual animal liberation just goes to show she’s actually just narcissistic and couldn’t care less about animals
I kind of have a similar problem- but I‘ve started to „limit“ my cheese consuming habits (instead of just trying to not eat any cheese, because that doesn’t work for me). I used to always buy 3-4 kinds of cheese every week, and now I‘ve started to always choose one per week (the one I feel like most/that matches what I plan to cook). Interestingly, I feel like eating the one cheese that I bought feels more special that eating lots of cheese used to, because now it basically has „treat“ status lol.
it is nasty but what is also important is a place you are taking your dairy, choosing eco eggs and eco cheese and eco milk is already something, don't feel guilty not eating meat already is great
@@samiraansari5686 I was in this position for a very long time. I stopped eating meat when I was a child but it took me well into adulthood to also ditch dairy (and even eggs). Since stopping, I've learned that there are hormones in dairy products that are basically addictive (www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-cheese-addictive). Milk is produced by the mother to feed and also soothe her baby, so there are "comfort" hormones in dairy products. That is why it seems so much harder to give up dairy, especially cheese. You are not a bad person for enjoying cheese at all, it's very natural to feel a dopamine kick from your treat. Personally, I was very surprised that after a few weeks of not eating cheese, the cravings stopped. I do eat vegan cheese alternatives, mostly in the form of nutritional yeast for a cheesy taste, but I don't get that voracious craving for cheese anymore.
@BEFM Reddit Never has someone committed suicide because they chose a different lifestyle involving food. Nobody would bully someone for being vegan to the point they commit suicide. Your reasoning is invalid.
I always knew non-toxic vegans were out there, but you're the first one I heard explain it all. It was really interesting to hear about all this Vegan teacher drama from a nice Vegan's perspective. This was really interesting.
I’d like to be vegan (or at least vegetarian), but my doctor told me that eliminating meat and other animal products would be very unhealthy for my specific body. I feel badly about eating animal products, but I don’t have the option to stop eating them...instead I source my animal products well (local, organic, fair trade, etc.) As someone who can’t be vegan, That Vegan Teacher’s content makes me feel terrible about myself for something that I can’t control :/
You should do what's best for your health. It's great that you try to eat "better" animal products. It's okay to just take smaller steps the way you're able to and do your part😊
I’m going to be moving out soon (hopefully) and I love my meats and stuff too much to get rid of them, do you have any good websites or how to find locally sourced foods?
You’re doing your best! Don’t feel bad about giving your body what it needs. There are plenty of medical reasons why people can’t go vegan/vegetarian and all of them are valid. Do what’s best for your body, and don’t listen to anyone who makes you feel bad about it. Ps, I’m a vegetarian and I certainly don’t think less of you because you have to eat animal products❤️
Don't feel bad! I know you know this, but you can't control it. Don't hurt yourself to be vegan. Though try your best! I can't eat vegan either because my parents think being vegan is stupid but my brother is becoming vegan. Soon, I'm hoping to be vegan too.
I am sorry her content makes you feel like that at the end of the day you being healthy is the number 1 priority so please don't feel guilty for not going vegan
You know, I really love the concept of promoting "make more vegan choices" over "become totally vegan" because it is so much more accessible to many people, and I appreciate the fact that a larger group of people making more vegan choices over a handful going 100% vegan would make a greater impact on the industry as a whole. As you say, perhaps becoming fully vegan would be the morally positive option but at least it's more widely effective to promote even just making more vegan choices to people that would hesitate to go totally vegan.
Eat the bugs animals eat animals do we kills all carnivores? What is the ehitcal arguement that survives not being in a 1st world county? We herd animals for a reason I love ethics absence reality. The world literally cannot go vegan untill we have space farm worlds. Yay 40k.
My sister eats through a feeding tube. It’s vegan formula. BUT, she can only eat little bits through her mouth. And that’s some meat products. My sister enjoys what little she can eat by mouth. I will fight whomever says she is bad and should be vegan.
@@southpark3903 there are a lot or medical reasons on how you can go vegan. Or maybe you can go vegan but you can’t eat healthy. She is terrible regardless but because you can go vegan doesn’t mean you should all the time.
@roni actually lots of people have recovered from there eating disorders through plant-based eating. Freelee the banana girl shares her eating disorder being vegan and of course seeing therapist. Has lots of other videos about people who are eating disorders through a vegan lifestyle. There's also tons of calorie dense vegan foods. I mean have you ever had nuts are avocado? There's also meat Alternatives which are calorie-dense but do not have harmful cholesterol.
@@southpark3903 Hi! I have a medical condition that means I can't be fully vegan. Intense (moderate?) IBS. Plant based protein sources are a HUGE symptoms trigger. I have to eat salmon (I refuse to eat land based meat) to survive. So yes we exist.
“Veganphobia” is just like having any other trait that people disagree with. Like when someone assumes you’re stupid because you are blonde. Are we going to say “blondephobia” is oppression next. SMH
Isnt "blondephobia" called lookism? Veganism is a movement, so its more like we have those who dont have rights, but according to the logic of the thatveganteacher, those who believe that they should have rights are oppressed
People actually had rather xenophobic remarks about me sometimes in my childhood due to my hair colour. But because my hair colour is very dark, and I lived in a town in Northwestern Russia which at that point had almost no immigrants and people associated very dark hair with either Roma people or people from Caucasus
It’s crazy that up until watching this video, I never thought about making vegan choices without making the big commitment of going full vegan. My anxiety and fear of failure as well as my general uncertainty I could make that lifestyle work, is very grateful for this crazy obvious yet non suggested idea.
We also have a heart and mhhh... kidneys the most delicious I-I mean important(?) organs of the human body. Hope you get that reference to certain creepypasta ;)
"Inside of you, is the dead body of a human" Said the gynaecologist to the woman who had miscarried, but due to some particular bill referencing a heartbeat, the woman could not abort the child and therefore died of sepsis
Thank you for addressing eating disorders in your critiques. At the peak of my eating disorder, I went vegan and vegetarian as an excuse to consume less food and calories overall in my very meat diet based family. In my adult life, I've found that adding vegan options to my regular rotation is much safer for my triggers than trying to take away anything. For right now, that is what is working for my family and me. Love your videos!
Yeah like I'm chill if your vegan, vegetarian, and anything else. Liek it's not my business what and why you are eating what you are eating. I mean I eat meat, and eggs, and animals product. I hate the way the industries treat the animals but I am a child and can't make a change at the moment. I will always eat animal products and I hope the farming of them will get better. But she's not even a vegan she's just a racist homophobic old lady.
seriously I respect vegans and wish I had cheaper vegan options I could buy. I wouldn't go fully vegan but would use almond milk if it wasn't 5 times the cost of cow milk, whyyyy
definitely. I'm recovering from an ed and I wanted to be vegan eventually but it's just too similar to food restrictions and made me spiral into disordered eating. so yeah, no❤️
I'm disabled and in gastric failure I would love to be plastic free, but I need my supplies to be sterile and it generates so much waste I need straws but I can't use reusable ones (they are not bendy enough and require cleaning, I use straws on days where I can't even sit up to drink so I don't have the energy to drag myself to the sink and do that), does that make me a bad person? No. I would love to chose what I consume, but I can't choose what goes into my feed (I have a GJ tube, I was under TPN for a while) Animal protein is the most efficient for me and there's nothing I can do about it. Does it make me a bad person? No. I have a service dog. I'm sure she thinks that's exploitation, but I need him to alert me before I faint, to get help for me if I do, to bring me my supplies when I'm bedbound, to help me get up if I fall. He has a good life, he loves his job. And for my dog's health, he is not vegan. Does that make me a bad person? No. I do my best, but people like her just make me feel like shit for doing what I need to survive. Life is hard already, it's just mean to beat on people who do what they can.
I need to have open heart surgery to fix a valve that's leaking and they use either a pig or cows valve they have plastic ones but they are not even half as good and I'll already need to change it every 10 years so obviously I'd want the best one..I bet she'd Shame me for that smh
You know, she probably would... 😬 Like why is she putting more effort into saving animals than human beings. I love animals but an actually human life is so so important. Take care of your self! ❤️❤️ I really hope your survey goes well, and you have a fast recovery
Everyone should have the choice.. and the problem is mostly with the industry, the cruelty and overproduction that comes with it. She's making individual people feel guilty for like eating eggs sometimes in a cake or at breakfast, and big companies don't even know her. Her message is obviously valid, but the way she expresses it is stupid, in my opinion. No one will be like "ya i wanna go vegan" after watching a video of a hysterical white woman insulting you because you drink milk. She's tiring....
I am honestly really annoyed at vegans who don't recognize the nuance in egg production. My family buys from small local farms that have their hens roam free and let customers visit and confirm that they're ethical. They don't kill the chicks and don't sell chicken meat. Some of them sell hen meat, from hens that have mostly lived out their lifespan (but you can easily choose farms that don't do this). It's such a wildly different world from industrial egg production.
@@RebeckadV i was thinking about this, my family buys cage free unwashed eggs from our neighbors, which isn't supporting the big egg industries, right? and my family probably consumes around 2 dozen eggs a week, but since we buy from a small "business" does that mean its okay to keep buying them? as in its still ethical? sorry to bother but since my family isnt vegan (we're pescatarian) after watching this i wanted to know if we were already making one of the small choices she mentioned
I’m an entire year late for this- but my input: I’m autistic and have a really nasty food sensitivity and there’s only a handful of foods I have been able to eat. Milk happens to be one of the only drinks I can handle without feeling very sick, just because my brain rejects almost everything else. I can’t even drink water, bottled or tap. I’ve tried different kinds of milk alternatives and all produce the same reaction from me. Worst part is I’m actually lactose intolerant. So with just that alone I’d have severe difficulty. I appreciate hearing your comment on the eating disorder bit. It means a lot to me. I love animals and do what I can in other ways, but there are just some that some people are not capable of doing.
have you tried lactose free milks? like lactaid is a cows milk with the lactose removed the texture of cows milk is one of my major food icks so i have no idea if its actually the same but its worth a try! theres also lactose pills to take to help remove the pain
Honestly her saying veganphobia us real is like me saying I'm oppressed for liking K-pop, because there are people who make fun of me and sometimes I'm scared to tell people I like K-pop.
@BEFM Reddit I dont get why you are defending that vegan teacher. Wheres the "point" she was tryna make, she said it was selfish to come out as lgbtq and that is homophobic full stop. Also dont you mean SHE doesnt know what shes talking about?? When she comes after people she always changes what they said??
i completely agree with you on this topic. unfortunately, there are people like her who only discourage potential future vegans and don't understand what homophobia or racism actually means. i personally have been vegetarian for three years now with a few vegan periods. I'm thinking of becoming fully vegan so it was very encouraging what you said about your journey to veganism. thank you
@@skyisherelol3492 as it was said- small steps. E.g. dont eat meat on one day of the week, and you can get closer and closer to your goal. From experience I know that you get used to eating meat less, and you don't need it as much. At first I got some cravings, now it happens very rarely. Good luck :)
I tried being vegetarian at one point because I think I’d love to, doing so helped me find out I have an allergy to a natural sugar that’s found in almost every fruit and vegetable. I can’t do any diets that require eating only those things because of that, but I love hearing about people who have the ability and choose to. Go for it, it sounds great. Have fun. Just don’t be the kind of person who tells others that they’re bad people because they’re not doing it to haha (Clarification, I’m not calling the original commenter someone who calls people bad for not eating vegetarian or vegan, it was just for any readers in general if they might potentially be that kind of person)
I felt absolutely TERRIBLE when I was vegan for a year, albeit I was 11. I actually have a vegan friend who has been my friend for about 9 years. I want to like Miss Kadie but she's a horrible person so.
About “veganfobia” or whatever she is saying we suffer hehehe we vegans are fighting for ANIMALS rights not vegan rights, wtf? The animals are the ones to be helped and the ones we are giving voice to. Everything in her activism is upside down.
This do much!! The oppressed group in the animal rights movement isn't the activists its the animals we are fighting for. It would be like someone who is a gay rights ally yelling about "allyphobia" when they speak out and are targeted. You choose to be an ally and you aren't oppressed!
@BEFM Reddit no one is oppressing vegans because to be vegan is a personal choice, you are not born vegan, you choose to be. Jokes, bad people saying a lot of bullshit... that’s not oppression. Saying a vegan is oppressed is the same of saying that man are oppressed when they talk about feminism, they are not. I’m not saying that those people doesn’t bother me, or that comments saying that vegans are boring and self absorbed are not absolutely bad for us, but this is not oppression. There is a difference. That woman pretends that veganism is about people that are vegan while it is not. It’s about animals, their rights and quality of life, you see? Again, I’m not pro jokes and harassment about/with vegans, but I can’t say we are oppressed.
@BEFM Reddit Are you saying that religion is the same as activism? Are vegans oppressing meat eaters when they tell them they are monsters and bad human beings because they eat meat? Wouldn't it be a problem as well. Opressing, killing, dehumanizing people because of their religion, color, nation or sexuality is not the same. No vegan has ever been killed for being vegan. No, I don't think that those jokes and harrassement ar ok, but I also don't think that this is oppression. You can think differently, that's the beauty of life, but I can't put vegans in the same place as jewish, muslims, gays, etc, because we are not in that place. Are man oppressed because there are woman that make jokes about being a man? no, right? Again, you think what you want baby, I'm just not obligated to think the same! ;)
@@wschippr1 she has told people with digestive disorders to just be vegan even if it hurts them, someone went on to tell her to stop, another extremist dueted the person and told the person that digestive disorders are excuses, that being vegan would make them much their disorder better or something like that. 😬
@@robotbench6102 that is disgusting. As someone who knows someone who has a digestive disorder and has seen first hand how painful it is for them to eat, it's genuinely scary how close minded people are.
heres something positive: during my first counselling session, i was asked how i identify, my pronouns and preferred name. it doesnt sound like alot but it made me rlly happy and i hope it brings some positivity to your day
i really appreciated this!!! i personally can’t go vegan because i have ARFID (avoidant restrictive food intake disorder), which means it’s borderline traumatic for me to eat things that my brain doesn’t deem ‘safe’. as such, my diet is very limited and i exist mostly on supplements and shakes. due to my health issues as well as this, i’m not able to go vegan. all your points resonated well, and you were really well spoken! you just earned a new sub :)
“Veganohobia” is NOT a person who isn’t vegan, if she thinks that then it’s basically saying that if you aren’t black you’re racist, if you’re an ally of the LGBTQ+ community and straight, then you’re homophobic. Just NO. She also made a homophobic comment saying that coming out as LGBTQ+ was not something to be proud of, and that “coming out” as vegan is something that you should be proud of. And yet she still says that if you that being vegan IS something to be proud of, other people might have different opinions but I believe that that’s basically homophobia, which is apparently as bad as veganphobia!
Damn she said its selfish to coming out as a lesbian/bisexual/gay or what ever bcuz its (in her opinion) benefits only for the Person itself. And when someone say 'i am vegan' its a benefit for the animals. And THIS IS WHY SHE SAID ITS SELFISH. And again she is also a bisexual woman.
I went vegan at 17 and was pretty aggressive at first too. But you can't claim to be compassionate while hurting other people, and thats something I quickly learned. Sympathize with people, remember how you once were just like them. It didn't make you a bad person, just someone who didn't know yet, and/or couldn't access vegan meals, etc. Small changes do make a big difference! I see tons of people who aren't vegan drinking plant milk, for example, and the impact is pretty big. My ex and I broke up 2 years ago and he still makes some plant based choices here and there because of me. We don't need a few perfect vegans, but instead several imperfect ones. Also heck yeah I've always hated salad. Let's bake a cake with applesauce in place of eggs n eat the whole thing in one day 😂
ᒪᘎᑕḰᎩ Tᖺᙓ ᘐᗩᑕᖺᗩ ᑕᖺᓰᒪᘐ I never heard of that one, that's really sad and upsetting. I have a child, now a young teen, that made the most amazing buildings in Minecraft as a small child. To erase that work is like burning a wall-sized painting the child has been working on for years. It's abusive and traumatizing and shows how little the father in question value his child's effort, interest, feelings and self-worth. It will leave scars for life. I just had to say that, and yes, I see the similarities with the "vegan teacher".
I’m interested in how she’ll respond to this video. She can’t call you veganphobic or say that you don’t know what you’re talking about, since you’re vegan.
@@KelleTN Holy shit she actually did. I swear she’s just seeking attention at this point, it’s like she’s constantly looking for videos criticizing her. That woman really needs to take a break from the internet istg
I'm a vegetarian, and am trying to consume less and less animal products. I got my family, at least the part that I live with, to be vegetarian the whole month of december and we switched to like 90% oatmilk, which makes a hug difference just because we consume so much milk and I think we really shoudnt degrade small steps like this like you already said in your video. Thanks for making Videos like that where you actually educate people :]
i bet she's one of the vegans who doesn't care about literal HUMAN slavery/exploitation in food production around the world. miss ma'am your hypo-criticism is showing 😂
The sad fact is that workers in agriculture are badly exploited, and although this is true everywhere in the world for all kinds of agriculture, it seems to be particularly bad in the meat and dairy industry. We need a change across the board, so workers everywhere are compensated fairly and work in safe conditions. However, once that is accomplished, the mental and emotional toll of killing sentient beings will still remain. There are increasing numbers of former butchers and former animal farmers going vegan and turning their businesses into educational centers and animal sanctuaries, because they know firsthand what happens behind closed doors.
This is going to sound stupid, but I thought I'd share a story. When I was in university I was forced to take a Philosophy 101 class, and we read one paper on veganism and had a short class discussion about it. I don't remember what really went on in the discussion, but I remember how at the end, the professor suggested that even picking one day a week to eat vegan instead of animal products could help. And that completely blew my mind for some reason. My whole life, I had only been introduced to the concept of veganism as "all or nothing." So the thought that you could just make more vegan choices some times as a stepping stone was completely new to me.
its not stupid, little changes help, as our dear kiwi said in the video. Im not vegan nor vegetarian, but since i've moved with my bestfriend (she's vegetarian) i eat less and less meat. I think the only meat i eat now its sausages, tuna or chiken breast, and its really rare, like once or twice a MONTH, we still eat eggs and dairy (its not so easy to find vegan alternatuve where we live) but out main intake its vegetables. So yeah, its not all or nothing, if you can make small decisions through the week, they add up in the long term.
I remember once a girl asked her if she would still go to heaven if she was not vegan, and this girl really cared about it because she was very religious but could not go vegan, and thatveganteacher straight up told her no?? That poor girl was crushed (luckily she got so much support and found reassurance)
@@Beth-td6vj I really feel that the "Vegan" Teacher has a lot of mental issues that she's not addressing and instead, she is unleashing them out on everyone else instead. She seems very antisocial, but I ain't saying anything concrete. Maybe no attention should be given to her?
the amount of comments saying my cat shouldn't be vegan,,, CAT IS MY VERY HUMAN FRIEND WHOM LIVES WITH ME, y'all clearly do not listen to our podcast smh.
white veganism and oppression from within the vegan community is a huge problem. for more very important information about it i highly recommend notcorry's video: ruclips.net/video/wjE-KoPCZuw/видео.html
please give it a watch, it helped to educate me further about my own veganism and i think it’s an excellent and very important video.
damn i never knew u were gonna make a video abt the vegan teacher! but ty for calling her out, she deserves to be called out bc she’s rude and messed up
@@bee-xu4ie same.
@@ΣκοτώνωΧαρά ?
You were so nicer to her than most people
@@ΣκοτώνωΧαρά oh no, someone‘s attacking the unoppressed majorities again!! whatever shall we do???
Yeah, I think she turned many of veganism when she told a minor she was going to hell for not being vegan. I myself for health reasons can't be vegan but I have been vegetarian for 6 and 1/2 years. Also, I was really appalled by her when she used the murder of George Floyd to promote veganism.
ikr. She also compared veganism to the gas chambers from the holocaust. Due to health reasons I cannot be vegetarian or anything like that. (low iron, low vitamin d, tree nut allergy) and to say I am an awful human for having to eat meat- is so disrespectful
That's animal abuse in my opinion
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@@k.k.2820 it actually can be! Her dog isn't getting enough protein and vitamins because all of those come from the meat dogs eat! This can harm the dog in the long run and make them more fragile and susceptible to bone injury.
i'm a vegetarian bc i have an eating disorder. i can't eat m*at anymore but when i can't cut off chokolate or other sweets bc it triggers bulimia. so yeah, but i think i'll become a vegan soon, when i move to another country that has more vegan options.
I am black and vegan. In no fucking way is being vegan more oppressive than the color of my skin.
edit: future me is ashamed of my bootlicking, i get attacked more for my veganism 100%, no longer an apologist, but none of that really matters, it’s about the animals
edit: even more future me is now in between points, i am an intersectionalist, i am in my final form, i have ascended
@americandreamz :I
@Reagan's America it still is sometimes though. "Karens" are also racist and annoying.
Who did ever say that vegans are the most oppressed?
@@TUG657 exactly. It's a CHOICE for God's sake!
@@toni929ann yeah, people think being bullied equals oppression
when that vegan teacher compared being vegan to the struggles that LGBTQ+ people, people of colour and women face was disgusting. vegan people aren’t abused and oppressed for being themselves. ‘vegan phobia’ doesn’t exist. also, being made fun of for being vegan is absolutely NOWHERE comparable for domestic abuse. she’s giving vegans a bad name. sorry for the rant, everyone have a lovely day
Didn’t she say something like don’t be ableist in the first one and goes these no excuses and some other ableist stuff.
Not to mention that being vegan is a choice, being a person of colour or a part of the LGBTQ+ isn't.
@@miimicry exactly. I'm vegan, but I usually don't tell people unless they are interested or if it makes a difference for places to eat out and stuff. Therefore, most people in my life don't even know I'm vegan. You can't hide your skin tone or certain disabilities. Yes, lgbtq+ people could choose not to come out to someone, but that's just not even remotely comparable.
not to mention shes making it seem like being hated on for being vegan is somehow worse than what the animals are going through?? like yeah i hate being made fun of for being vegan but i take it because i know im doing my best to help the animals and my suffering is nothing compared to theirs
It is not comparable. People hate the extregans, as she says, due to ther extremism. LGBTQ+ people, people of a darker skin color, and women have all been oppressed and still are in some places. There are 71 countries where it is illegal to be LGBTQ+ and countless countries where women are still being oppressed in, as well as racism still being a problem even if it isn't as extreme as it was in, say, the early 1800s.
I knew a vegan lady once. She was in a peer-led cooking class I was in, actually. She would not eat any of the food we made, but she was happy enough to help us make it and if the recipe allowed it, she'd bring in vegan substitutes for things (we made personal pizzas once and she brought in vegan toppings for hers). She told us that she was taking the recipes home and finding ways to make them vegan for herself and would share her changes if we wanted to know them. She also encouraged us to try some of the vegan substitutes she brought in so we could see if we liked it. Sometimes we did, sometimes we didn't, but the fact that she didn't force feed it to us made us more willing to give it a chance. She's also how I learned that you could use mashed banana in place of eggs and I tried it once and my cake turned out amazing.
She was a really nice lady and since she didn't force her diet on us, we one day all decided to make vegan burgers so that she could eat the food without having to bring in a substitute (we voted on the recipes ahead of time). Definitely a good example of positive influence making us more willing to try something.
Really sweet! One of the nicest stories that isn’t making me lose hope in the world
As a person with autism who is extremely sensitive to foods and drinks, i literally cannot go vegan because there are already so few foods (mostly, unfortunately, vegetables) i can eat without throwing up....
Edit; thanks everyone for being so positive and kind.... it makes me really happy
I've discovered recently that vegetables are actually quite a common trigger for people with sensory issues!! I'm the same!
@@rambletash always great to find another sensitive fairy:)
I’m autistic but my senses aren’t that intense. Despite that, fruits and vegetables are always either soo crunchy or soft, it feels so icky. Which sucks so badddd :-(
Same here! I'm not that sensitive to textures but to tastes and there aren't many "safe" foods for me to eat. Add some health problems to that and I'm kind of stuck. I really REALLY want to quit drinking milk but it's the only thing can I drink that doesn't upset my stomach or my brain. I've tried different kinds of milk but I just feel nauseous. I don't know what to do. :(
@@Lewisiaisoutofcontext I'd say to not limit yourself to vegan foods or something.... find out what you can eat, no matter what it is, and then try to see if there are any alternatives near you that work...
Talking to someone you trust always helps too :)
and THIS ladies, gentlemen, and everyone in-between is how you hold someone accountable without canceling their existence
Such an underrated comment u are absolutely correct
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Vegan teacher: I'm not FORCING you to become vegan
Also vegan teacher: You're going to hell if you're not vegan
She makes being vegan sound like a whole disease Ik not all vegans or like her she’s the kind you want to stay away from
the only reason she's not forcing me to become vegan is because she can't.
You know she would if she could.
@@Nerobyrne true
When she said “don’t be homophobic” yet she admitted that being apart of the LGBTQ+ community is a way to seek attention and isn’t valid... how does that make sense from her wording like????
i mean it was already obvious that she's a hypocrite who doesn't know what she's talking about
Y'all are jerks and terrible people she is my idol and you should stop.
@@sku11zyxx no
@@zirconthecrystal1150 yes srry but the queer kiwi is a good person.
@@sku11zyxx she is, TVT isn't
When you talked about the dangers of going vegan when you have an ED - YES. This whole video was brilliant, but that part especially hit me. Thank you addressing it and I hope this sentiment gets adopted by the vegan community as a whole.
on the other hand tho, i became vegan because of eating difficulties and i know this is NOT everyone and i am aware of how its not good for many people and i would never be able to even FATHOM someone else with serious (or ANY) EDs forcing themselves to veganism, but veganism has helped me feel more comfortable with what im eating (idk if that makes sense and i hope im not upsetting anyone else with EDs bc i know how hard it is) but yh, her point is super valid, not everyone can be vegan for their own health. im aware that there are days that still get bad but those are lesser now and at least i can get in a meal a day rather that a snack a week (snack which were not healthy and were fat ladden and made me feel super icky but i ate bc i needed the energyto get through skl, but then i ended up sleeping for 13+ hours on saturdays AND sundays)
(also im sry this is long, i over share a lot sometimes lol, but i guess it might be good for people to know this? but noone go vegan if you have EDs and you think this might affect you, pls pls pls dont do that)
YES! I tried vegetarian for a year but my binge eating disorder became worse because of more rules in my food.
@@gremliin_priince same
I eat more because vegan food isn't as scary(Idk if that makes sense)
I have a history of atypical anorexia (basically the eating patterns, thoughts and behaviour associated with anorexia, but not yet underweight). Food rules are not my friend. I’m happy with trying to incorporate more plants, and reducing meat, but strict rules send me down a bad road. I’m really glad she addressed that point.
@@Silkenray helena rose could be an interesting youtube creator for you. She went vegan during/for her recovery journey and makes wonderful videos. The way she talks about food and adresses veganism to me seems very accepting, non-harmful and informed.
I hope you have a wonderful day and great health 💕
Its so infuriating when that vegan teacher compares racism, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, etc to being vegan. I've been assaulted for being disabled and to have it compared to some kids trolling you on the internet saying its basically the same feels like a slap in the face.
I agree, like I’m bi and I don’t get much for it, like all I got was being called a fag once. Ya see, I’m not oppressed. I’m not bullied. But nowadays the minute anyone gets called an idiot or smth they start telling everyone they’re oppressed, and it means that people like you who’re actually oppressed aren’t listened to and it sucks ass. I’m rly sorry man, I just hope it gets better for ya.
The vegan teacher wants us to treat animals like humans, but she treats humans like shit
Awww poor you. You're such a victim. 🥺
Words =/= enslaving, murdering and consuming the corpses of tortured animals
@BEFM Reddit My cat captures, plays with, and tortures bugs to death before eating them. Does that mean I have license to treat my cat like shit because its a predator?
You have a good point. I wonder if people treated her the same way would she like it.
But she is still right
"what about people on food stamps?"
THANK YOU for saying that. A good chunk of my food budget comes from food assistance which is between $200-300 a *month* so getting enough to eat is soooo hard, and I often don't have energy to prepare meals and premade vegan food is expensive, especially since my bf and I both have specific medical diets. (My doctor specifically told me not to cut anymore foods than what my intolerance requires.) We'd both *love* to be vegan, but as it is, we can't manage. We don't eat much meat or dairy but a lot of shelter food isn't vegan so we don't often have a choice. Being disabled, trans, and poor we have a lot of hurdles before we could comfortably and healthily be vegan, especially since we both have unhealthy relationships with food that border on ED. Needless to say I do get tired of people not being sympathetic to my "excuses". So thanks for thinking of others so kindly.
As someone who wishes to become vegan but can't because of sensory issues, seeing her say stuff like that is super harmful. I'm not in charge of buying my own food and I have sensory issues that leaves me unable to eat certain foods. Her saying there's 'no excuse' to not be vegan is so harmful, she needs to realise that for some people, being vegan is impossible.
I agree for some reason my stomach bothers me when I eat most veggies or stuff like peanuts so I can't really go vegan unless I want to starve
I have to eat meat because of my eating disorders
I have sensory issues too but I can eat raw vegetables and plain food, so if I took out the food that’s meat and comes from an animal I’d just have fruit and plain pasta
I'm vegan. I have a terrible clothing addiction, I have a car, I use too much plastic... I am trying, just like we are all trying, but just because I am vegan, it doesn't even mean that I am doing better than other people who are not vegan. But then I couldn't do my job without driving. We all just need to try to do our best and think about changing the things that we can change. Just do what you can other than being vegan. Just try. You don't owe some random bitch on the internet anything. You don't have to be vegan to be trying to do better, and doing better is for you to monitor, and for you to work out. Maybe that is why so many vegans on YT are like this- because you are not making these changes to please others or be praised by others. Maybe these people can't stand making that much effort without attention... so they attack people online. Anyway- the worst thing about being vegan, is definitely other vegans.
Vegans: *exists*
The vegan teacher: I’m going to make you all look SO BAD LMFAOOOOOO
Vegans: 👁👄👁 why
She paints such a bad image for vegans
Right?! My stepdad is vegan and he's just living his life... People like her make it worse for everyone else. Like , EVERYONE else.
She makes vegans look exactly the way they should, like animal rights activists. Not like plant based bootlickers.
I've talked so much about the vegan teacher with friends... because she forces her dog to be vegan, curses, forces her beliefs on people, and uhhh seemed to make in fun of someone's death when she saw a comment saying someone died from going vegan because of her.
In her defense the comment was probably made up.
@@mollynixon7123 Even if it was, it's still messed up to be like that if you read something like that
@@mollynixon7123 well alot of people can die from going vegan. Some people physically can't be vegan
@@urhotgaybestie1370 That person is me! ^^
I wouldn’t die, but I’d be in near constant pain-
@@thedotintheletteri I'm sorry for you !! Stay safe and well
She acts like a 7 year old can go vegan when they don't know how to cook
I would assume she wants them to force their parents into veganism. Veganism is expensive. I couldn't go vegan because vegan food is just too expensive, I wouldn't be able to afford it.
I knew how to cook when I was seven. But I didn't know how to cook any vegan or even vegetarian foods.
@@cary1056 veganism is not expensive, most natural foods are already by default vegan, the knly thing that makes it expensive is if someone buys a huge amout of unnecessary substitutes (fake sausages etc)
@@Volzotran I live in a small town in Canada. Transportation costs make it expensive. A lot of our produce is imported.
Edit: I don't really want to go vegan. I'm always on the edge of anemia and constantly low on keratin. I'd rather put in a little work to help fix the system, since that's really what's hurting the animals.
@@cary1056 the only food that is no vegan are from animals, but most of the food that exists in general are by default vegan like rice and various other grains, every vegetable and fruit etc etc, I'm also not trying to convince you to go vegan, just wanted to clarify that this whole myth that veganism is mote expensive is not true and a lame excuse.
"You cannot change people's minds unless they are willing to change them."
This is a really good quote tbh
Edit: Also, ✨cRiSpY wAtEr✨
stop being a psycho would be a start in BC activist vandalise women shelters for not being inclucive. Wax my balls or ill sue you bigot lost me.
That Vegan Teacher looks like that one teacher in my kindergarten who would scream at the kids for accidentally spilling their juice. She made kids cry so hard that they’d get headaches.
I hope she was fired from hearing all the parents finding out the reason for all those kids coming home sick and unhappy
Drinking game! Take a shot every time she says “Vegan”
ahahahaha, i made this same joke while editing 😂😂
If I drank, I'd be spralled out on the floor screaming about how I want to dye my hair lepoard print.
@@discringydude7698 that would be so cool- 😭🏃♀️🏃♀️
DO YOU WANT ME TO DIE!?!?!
Think I'd be dead lol
the fact that she told a minor that they were going to hell bcuz they weren't vegan disgusts me. Its not that easy being vegan because some people cant afford that and they need to eat fast food. As a vegetarian, I cant eat meat because it messes up with my system and its hard for me to still find food that isnt meat because my family isnt able to give me what i need that isnt meat.
Especially hard for a minor living in their parent's household if those parents don't support their child's dietary choices.
@@mystic-malevolence ^
Being a vegetarian that lives close to a hotdog place with vegetarian options, where my boyfriend works, I eat £4 veggiedogs almost weekly. And almost every time the word “veggiedog” comes out of my mouth, a preteen girl will try to flame me for being vegan. I have to explain to this, like, 13 year old that no, I’m not vegan, I’m vegetarian.
9/10 times they’ll compare me to the Vegan Teacher and I just have to sit there while these girls have mental breakdowns and tape me on IGLive trying to tell all 12 of their viewers that there’s this crazy vegan man is in a hotdog restaurant. I get my veggiedog and they usually follow me to my table, trying to ask me how it feels to be ‘exposed for being an idiot.’
Several times now, my boyfriend has had to show up to his workplace while he’s off shift. He, almost daily, puts on his apron purely to chase off these crazy children. His coworker had to call the police one time, as one of the girls’ parents decided to try to hit me upside the head with a broken plate.
Apparently, having an employee tell your kid off for harassing someone is enough to attempt to cut someone’s head open.
@@bluepearl4624 omg...im so sorry that people had done that to you :(
@@lotusprincess7 I’m used to it. There are some loonies in my area that insist that eating 98% meat and 2% dairy products in their diet is the only way to live,
My household is going vegan, but we're not jumping into it right away, we are weaning ourselves from all the non-vegan foods we ate. Also just eating the rest of the non-vegan food in our house.
Yeah if my family decided to go vegan we'd spend about a yr still eating meat from the freezer😂
That Vegan Teacher is literally living the life of a "Crazy Vegan" stereotype
I think it’s safe to say the crazy vegan stereotype is based on her lol
I’m glad that Savannah called this old stick out, and I’m also glad that she actually got the right kind of knowledge about veganism and doesn’t force anyone, yet understands other peoples situations. Keep it up! :D
The fact that she makes her dog become vegan makes me sick to my stomach.
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@@Okklol529 your username 🥵
Yes that is so gross
shes really scary
like her voice...
and her vegan nurse acct
i...
shes terrifying
she is… when she talked about abusive relationships I was seriously nauseous and afraid 😰
she seems like she would seriously beat or even kill someone for not being vegan like how can you be so extreme…
Yea she triggers my anxiety
The fact that this is the first time I’m hearing that you’re vegan goes to show that not all vegans immediately shove it in your face
The large companies who produce dairy are definitely horrible, but there are lots of small dairy farmers where I live in the US and the cows and goats are treated wonderfully. We could go to their little shop, grab a gallon of milk, and go visit the cows and goats that made it. They weren't given steroids because the shop didn't rely on that. The cows had space to run around, raise their babies, they had names, everything. The kids of the family got sad when the animals got older and died. Small local farmers can be very ethical to buy from.
Yeah, I'm a minor and live with my parents so I don't have as much of a say in what we buy (but my parents are encouraging me to write down anything I want to eat on the grocery list). My mom buys a ton of milk, ice cream, cheese, and other dairy products from a small dairy farm. The farmers there devised a machine that milks the cows in a more natural way. They always have some baby goats and a baby cow in a little area near the building and the kids are always delighted (myself included, lol) to pet the animals and feed them weeds and grass they rip out of the ground. Away from the main building, there is a giant field where the other cows run around freely and it's enlightening how these farmers treat their animals with care.
Totally! There’s a lot of businesses who are trying to be better in the dairy process and even who take care of the animals before using them for meat. A few people have began to start honoring animals and there lives and it’s a good step to making improvement
im looking into more ethical ways to buy dairy and was wondering, how do you find local dairy farms around your area like this? im a minor, and knew to the whole vegan idea, and don't really know how to persuade my family to go vegan, let alone change how we shop. but i really wanna learn of alternatives just in case I can
@@musikluv6 they're a bit hard to find, the reason I know about ours is because we were friends of their family since I was a toddler. You could look on Google maps for a farmers market or for a small dairy supplier, but the best way is to ask someone in your area for a recommendation
Do you know how any cow comes to produce milk? They have to be pregnant and in order to bottle and sell the milk to humans, their babies have to be separated from them. After this, the calf will be sold to slaughter because it's not economically viable to keep them around. This happens regardless of where you get your milk from. Do not pay for dairy!
As someone who has been battling/reasoning/compromising with the anorexia part of my brain (I named them Delilah) for 15 years I really appreciate you acknowledging the issue.
She victim blames and she’s also actually made fun of someone who’s friend died from malnutrition due to veganism
Just so y'all know, she lives with a person named Cat, her cat (if she has one) isn't actually vegan.
I can’t be vegan, as vegetables and fruits have to many carbs for me to eat every day because of my diabetes. Meat is one of the only things I can eat throughout the day because of either low-carbs or no carbs.
I am a Type-1 Diabetic, and to many carbs could make my blood sugar go so high that it would cause Major Health Risks.
aww! I can't be vegan or vegetarian because i am low vitamin d, low calcium, and have a deadly tree nut allergy. Plus im a minor so i dont buy the groceries anyways xD
@@ohhmangos Aww. I don’t buy my groceries either :)
I’m in a similar boat, though for me it’s texture issues due to neurodivergence as opposed to a independent health issue. Would be too much of a mental(and likely physical as well since I probably wouldn’t eat as much in general) toll if I cut animal products out of my diet
EXACTLY !! i wrote a whole comment about how vegans like vegan teacher can be ableist and anti-indigenous because native peoples have sustainably eaten animals for centuries, and many disabled and chronically ill folks (like myself) simply can't go vegan for health reasons or even economic reasons since disabled people are disproportionately economically disadvantaged. going vegan is great, but it can literally kill people. shaming others for not being vegan is simply disgusting.
I have type 1 diabetes and i'm a vegan, it doesn't really effect my blood suger as i give enough insulin for my food
Can we also talk about how she said “not your religion”? I’m not religious so I can’t speak much on the situation, but I feel like that’s problematic.
It's definitely problematic 😐
There are so many reason why people can’t go vegan:
Gluten allergy
Nut allergy
Sensory issues
Eating disorders
Mental health issues (like depression)
Iron deficiency
Money issues
Homelessness
Abusive households
Other family issues
And many many many many more reasons.
I personally want to be vegan but I can’t because I live at home rn and my family isn’t willing to pay for me to be vegan.
In today’s society there are more reasons to not be vegan than to be vegan.
Her even after seeing the reasons:
BuT tHinK oF tHe ChIcKeNs BeInG cElIaC iS nOt An ExCuSe
This is such bullshit. I have gluten allergy.
If you read the definition of veganism you would know it's about excluding animal exploitation as much as possible and practical. A homeless person can become vegan even if they have no choice but to eat meat sometimes.
Definition of veganism:
the practice of eating only food not derived from animals and typically of avoiding the use of other animal products.
No one ever mentions illiteracy, I witnessed a group of vegans shun another vegan for buying the wrong packet food. This person had severe dyslexia and learning disabilities that led to illiteracy...the product only had honey in it.
Most of the people who have the ‘everyone can be vegan’ mentality, ignore all the reasons why people can’t go vegan. Most people I met with this mentality didn’t even experience these things or not in the extreme.
If I would go vegan I’d die, because of my medical issues and mental issues.
whenever “cat” and would instantly think the animal, but then remember “Cat” is a human lol. but just a friendly reminder not to push your dietary choices onto your pets, it isn’t healthy for them.
edit: fixed my horrid spelling
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@@KatsCraftNook savannah mentioned that cat is also vegan and a lot of people thought she was forcing her cat to be vegan which would be bad, but Cat is the name of her human friend who lives with her
Most of my family drinks almond milk and we go through it really quick. Mainly because we use it in coffee, cereal, smoothies, and some other stuff. My sister is really the only one that drinks whole milk and stuff like that.
Some people can't go vegan; My body doesn't fold a particular protein correctly. If I don't consume meat at least 3 times week, my immune system crashes. Last time I went vegetarian, I felt wonderful all the way up until I was hospitalized for a week because I had almost no white blood cells, and was getting my butt absolutely kicked by food poisoning from contaminated lettuce. Also, I felt so wonderful because my auto-immune issues aren't an issue when I have no immune system...
"veganphobia"...bc veganism is something you are born with and cannot change, right?.........right?
Yeah, and being LGBTQ is definitely a choice, right? Which is why it’s the same degree of oppression as being vegan.
And you can _definitely_ change what race you are, right?
"It's not oppression; it's just your feelings getting hurt. It's not the same thing."
LITERALLY quoting you on this for the rest of my life. 😌
@Reagan's America dude, seriously, gay and black people are oppressed, I saw you on another guys thread who said he was black and you said that in America his skin colour wasn’t discriminated against. Dude. What are you on about.
@All American Teen
1) George floyd
2) you didn’t answer my question on the other thread pertaining to your skin tone and sexuality
@All American Teen
1) I won’t deny that point without evidence so I’d appreciate a link
2) yes, they don’t make you oppressed. Some people will oppress you because of it though.
As someone who's vegan for almost 3 years now, thank you for this video, especially the last part of it. Yes, vegan activism is important, yes, it's important to advocate for animal's rights, but nothing can be achieved by downright attacking people. Most omnivores are not aware of how cruel meat & diary industries are, and telling them that they're the Antichrist because of a choice they made while they were uninformed just sounds counter-productive. Imho it's way more effective if you simply talk with them as a friend and get your points across, and show them some cool vegan cooking so they know plant-based food is not just salads and veggies, but can be really tasty and fun.
Also, how dare she talk about empathy and then talk down to people who suffer from EDs is beyond my understanding.
100% this. Also, if her goal is animal activism, and she happens to have lots of energy and motivation to call people out, she would probably be more effective going after the actual meat industry & the people getting rich off it, instead of random people on the Internet.
I have a disability that requires an extremely heigh salt diet in order for me to just...function. The easiest way to get salt is meat (slim Jim’s) and chips. If I wanted to go vegan (or even vegetarian) I would need to go to a dietitian...I can’t afford that with all the other doctors I have.
u sure?
That's valid.
Salt? For high salt intakes you could just add salt to anything, that way you get a more balanced diet, if that is the case? I don't think chips in general are a source of salt? A source of salt is salt.
@@kellyvega6372 that’s true, and I do that anyway. But generally chips aren’t that healthy. Yes the best source of salt is just salt, and I always over salt my food (I make a lot of eggs because you can typically add a whole lot of salt and hardly really taste it). But meat is generally naturally salty and I add salt to it to make it even more high in sodium. To go vegan would be removing eggs (one of my go tos for high salt) as well as meat and cheese (that also has salt). Of course there is chips but that isn’t super healthy, I can’t really survive on chips.
When I first went vegetarian, I found that I was getting dizzy pretty often. My mom took me to the doctor. They found it was because I wasn’t taking in as much salt. I was a teenager and was really quite surprised that could be a thing. At that age, salt equaled unhealthy because people always talked about the dangers of taking in too much sodium.
I know better now. Our bodies need fat and sodium. Many take in too much, but taking in too little can be just as bad.
I will say, other aspects of my health improved from cutting out meat. My body doesn’t digest fat (especially animal fat) very well. I used to get majorly bad stomach cramps and not be able to relieve myself for weeks at a time.
Thank Jamie, from Jammidodger, for bringing me here. I've seen maybe 1 or 2 of your videos before but I've only just now subbed.
I can't fault your video but the main reason why I subscribed is the comment section. Anyone who brings together such a wholesome group is worth sticking around for.
Oh hey I watch him to!
I have tried to be vegetarian as a child, but I had several sensory issues that have been getting more severe over time, so it didn't last. If I were to switch to vegetarian or vegan, I would be lacking in a lot of nutrients because of my sensitivities, so I just kinda stick to my current way of eating
The tiktok a bit before 19:34 really creeped me out. She doesn’t realize how much that kinda can scare some people. I hate that one so much. “The dead bodies of animals who died begging for their lives”. Sheesh. So creepy.
Seriously, this woman is apparently so empathetic to animals but lacks the empathy needed to understand that scaring minors into veganism is bad.
On an unrelated side note she has a higher voice than I do and I’m in middle school. Assigned female at birth… sorry had to note this cuz im transmasc-
Comparing being made fun of for being vegan to being in an abusive relationship is so disgusting. What the hell is wrong with her??!
Thank You. Everyone Looks At Me Like I Have Problems When I Say I Don't Eat & Will Never Eat Salad....Which...I Do...But Not Due/Related To My Lack Of Salad Consumption.😤
the vegan teacher like actually scares me sm. she makes vegans look so bad , like i understand wanting to put out the idea of being vegan to other people but she's trying to shove it down people's throat.
she reminds me of a right win conservative evangelical christian who shoves religion down peoples throats- only instead of religion its veganism
She reminds me of those moms that get mad when a gay couple is shown on the tv cause it’s “making her kids gay”, but then pull this type of bs 😃
@@ohhmangos the accuracy-
yeah. shes a very good reason why people think vegans are angry and shes not really encouraging anyone. its really annoying cause shes driving people *away* from the idea
@@ohhmangos WHY IS THIS SO ACCURATE NOOOOO 💀
She seems like, if you farm animals in Minecraft, she’d hit you.
OMGGGGGGG "this is abuse ur putting the cows in fenced areas >:("
Is that a chicken being riden by a baby zombie?!?!?! Doesn't that game npc have any respect for that poor chicken that feels nothing?!?!?!?!
I wonder how vegans feel about video games like Minecraft where you can kill animals and such, I mean you can def choose not to but if you're playing in survival you'd have to eat a lotta apples and mushroom soup I guess./j
Edit (7 months later): I should probably add a tone indicator here (I added it) but I get it, I was just joking with this comment, but I genuinely was curious what they thought, but even months later I've considered making more vegan choices and I understand it's literally just a video game and not real life ofc, with the many examples of other video games that are not ethical irl (like shooting games & stuff.)
Aha I think I saw you on tumblr reads
@@twinny_mi my friend who’s a vegetarian (not a vegan tho) jokes about eating meat, and kills animals in video games. So some are chill I guess.
As a person of color and of the lgbtq+ community, when she said racism and homophobia is just as oppressive as "veganphobia" literally made me feel sick
@@CuteGirlKorea fatphobia is definitely real, though. Not saying it’s the same as racism or homophobia, but it is real.
@@eileenconway2966 Yeah, fatphobia is real in some cases but as you said, it is not as extreme as racism and homophobia.
no, but it is comparable to the oppression of animals. I wouldn't consider prejudice against individual vegans that big of a systemic issue lol
For a vegan, she sure gets in a lot of beef
She might need a cold steak to heal that burn
Hahaaa
Ooooo... Burned🥩
*Ba dum tss*
I fu**ing died from thisssss
this is such a good video, you explained the points so well
For a sec I was wondering how you knew and then I realized this comment was from 19 hours ago?????? Why did I just now get the notification
@@emmacjobe sAme-
@@emmacjobe they are part of her group, you have to pay for it i think and u get early access to some videos
@@emmacjobe i think because they are a member they get access to videos earlier
@@v4mpyy. ohh ok I was really confused
"Hello guys, gals, and non-binary pals" that opening line is so inclusive! As a non-binary pal, I have subscribed! Thank you for including me :)
We love our non-binary pals 💛
Hey! I’m a nonbinary pal too💜. Also, we have similar icons!
I’m an AGENDER PAL :D
same! I’m a guy and a nonbinary pal, and I hit subscribe at the speed of sound when I heard that intro lol
I'm also a non-binary pal! Love Savannah ❤❤
Wait, when she says ageism she's talking about people saying "okay boomer" at her, isn't she.
Shes Gen X...but yeah
She is? I took her to be at least fifty?
@@cecilie... shes about 55...1965
@@cecilie... i thought mid 60 something
@@Fanimati0n nope she's 55. Looks older though
Real vegans will respect both humans and animals.
I respect and love your profile picture
@@chaotic-bean9060 Yes. The glorius father of Blitzkrieg.
@@nicholasneo2846 well no it was a dream profile u changed it ._.
@@chaotic-bean9060 Nah. This was my original pfp. The dream one was my brothers one. I change it after I found out.
@@chaotic-bean9060 My brother use my account and change my profile picture. Hope you can understand :)
That Vegan Teacher insulted and trivialized someone's dead friend who died of malnutrition. She can rot.
she did what now?
That's so f*cked up
@@fancyhat3940 yeah I think it was someone who took her advice too
yeah this person said their friend died because they followed her advice and refused to eat meat or be vegan safely, because thatveganteacher doesnt explain how to do that and instead just forced veganism on people. she mocked the commenter and laughed at the dead friend
@@coldcrumble6977 What the actual F*CK
Let's not forget she made/posted a song called I Can't Breathe in June 2020 which was about veganism and wrote "all lives matter" in the description box... If that ain't the most disrespectful shit I've ever seen idk what is.
That made me ill, she also in that 'song' used the term 'auchwitz truck' in reference to an animal activist (I think) getting hit with a truck. It's disturbing, upvoting your comment
@@justk4929 omg that's absolutely vile! I couldn't get through the song because I was so angry
@AfterLife Demon I thought that was the case but I wasn't absolutely sure
okay so she is racist. no exceptions, she IS racist
@@non5025 Wait... how is she racist?
Her focusing on ‘veganphobia’ as opposed to actual animal liberation just goes to show she’s actually just narcissistic and couldn’t care less about animals
She's omnivorephobic
Tho people can do it for environmental reasons (like me) not just animal liberation. But I agree
I honestly don't give a crap about the cows, for me its about saving the environment
exactly omg! nobody is oppressed for being vegan, and that's not a belief the general community has ever had. the animals are the victims.
true tho
"Dairy industry is even worse than meat industry"
Me who doesn't eat meat but likes eating cheese: **guilt intensifies** .__."
I kind of have a similar problem- but I‘ve started to „limit“ my cheese consuming habits (instead of just trying to not eat any cheese, because that doesn’t work for me). I used to always buy 3-4 kinds of cheese every week, and now I‘ve started to always choose one per week (the one I feel like most/that matches what I plan to cook). Interestingly, I feel like eating the one cheese that I bought feels more special that eating lots of cheese used to, because now it basically has „treat“ status lol.
chill bruh it is okay
it is nasty but what is also important is a place you are taking your dairy, choosing eco eggs and eco cheese and eco milk is already something, don't feel guilty not eating meat already is great
me who shouldnt eat milk anyway: ham
@@samiraansari5686 I was in this position for a very long time. I stopped eating meat when I was a child but it took me well into adulthood to also ditch dairy (and even eggs). Since stopping, I've learned that there are hormones in dairy products that are basically addictive (www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-cheese-addictive). Milk is produced by the mother to feed and also soothe her baby, so there are "comfort" hormones in dairy products. That is why it seems so much harder to give up dairy, especially cheese. You are not a bad person for enjoying cheese at all, it's very natural to feel a dopamine kick from your treat. Personally, I was very surprised that after a few weeks of not eating cheese, the cravings stopped. I do eat vegan cheese alternatives, mostly in the form of nutritional yeast for a cheesy taste, but I don't get that voracious craving for cheese anymore.
'It's not oppression... It's just arseholes' HAHAHAHA, YES.
Okay, I dont wanna be one of those annoying replys but I just wanted to say: I really love your vids. They always make me smile and you inspire me
Yo amy are you still amy? I know your nb now so I don't wanna deadname you
ur here!!
@BEFM Reddit Never has someone committed suicide because they chose a different lifestyle involving food. Nobody would bully someone for being vegan to the point they commit suicide. Your reasoning is invalid.
Omg I love your vids, Amy😍
I always knew non-toxic vegans were out there, but you're the first one I heard explain it all. It was really interesting to hear about all this Vegan teacher drama from a nice Vegan's perspective. This was really interesting.
I’d like to be vegan (or at least vegetarian), but my doctor told me that eliminating meat and other animal products would be very unhealthy for my specific body. I feel badly about eating animal products, but I don’t have the option to stop eating them...instead I source my animal products well (local, organic, fair trade, etc.) As someone who can’t be vegan, That Vegan Teacher’s content makes me feel terrible about myself for something that I can’t control :/
You should do what's best for your health. It's great that you try to eat "better" animal products. It's okay to just take smaller steps the way you're able to and do your part😊
I’m going to be moving out soon (hopefully) and I love my meats and stuff too much to get rid of them, do you have any good websites or how to find locally sourced foods?
You’re doing your best! Don’t feel bad about giving your body what it needs. There are plenty of medical reasons why people can’t go vegan/vegetarian and all of them are valid. Do what’s best for your body, and don’t listen to anyone who makes you feel bad about it.
Ps, I’m a vegetarian and I certainly don’t think less of you because you have to eat animal products❤️
Don't feel bad! I know you know this, but you can't control it. Don't hurt yourself to be vegan. Though try your best! I can't eat vegan either because my parents think being vegan is stupid but my brother is becoming vegan. Soon, I'm hoping to be vegan too.
I am sorry her content makes you feel like that at the end of the day you being healthy is the number 1 priority so please don't feel guilty for not going vegan
Cat: *vegan*
Comments: OH MY GOD CATS ARE MEANT TO BE VEGAN HOW COULD-
Cat, a human being: w h a t
*aren't
but also lmao I love this comment
You know, I really love the concept of promoting "make more vegan choices" over "become totally vegan" because it is so much more accessible to many people, and I appreciate the fact that a larger group of people making more vegan choices over a handful going 100% vegan would make a greater impact on the industry as a whole. As you say, perhaps becoming fully vegan would be the morally positive option but at least it's more widely effective to promote even just making more vegan choices to people that would hesitate to go totally vegan.
Eat the bugs animals eat animals do we kills all carnivores? What is the ehitcal arguement that survives not being in a 1st world county? We herd animals for a reason I love ethics absence reality. The world literally cannot go vegan untill we have space farm worlds. Yay 40k.
@@jeffisnot2826 bro what the fuck are you talking about
@@jeffisnot2826 bro what does this even mean
My sister: I can’t be vegan for medical res-
Vegan teacher: THE DISRESPECT
My sister eats through a feeding tube. It’s vegan formula. BUT, she can only eat little bits through her mouth. And that’s some meat products. My sister enjoys what little she can eat by mouth. I will fight whomever says she is bad and should be vegan.
Well there is no medical reason not to go vegan. That doesn't mean the vegan teacher isn't crazy though.
@@southpark3903 there are a lot or medical reasons on how you can go vegan. Or maybe you can go vegan but you can’t eat healthy. She is terrible regardless but because you can go vegan doesn’t mean you should all the time.
@roni actually lots of people have recovered from there eating disorders through plant-based eating. Freelee the banana girl shares her eating disorder being vegan and of course seeing therapist. Has lots of other videos about people who are eating disorders through a vegan lifestyle. There's also tons of calorie dense vegan foods. I mean have you ever had nuts are avocado? There's also meat Alternatives which are calorie-dense but do not have harmful cholesterol.
@@southpark3903 Hi! I have a medical condition that means I can't be fully vegan. Intense (moderate?) IBS. Plant based protein sources are a HUGE symptoms trigger. I have to eat salmon (I refuse to eat land based meat) to survive. So yes we exist.
This woman is like "... your cat consumes fish ... Disown your cat"
She hasn't been feeding her dog meat in years
@@mat-with-one-t yep, she is mistreating her dog, ironically
@@mat-with-one-t I just found out that she has a song called "vegan dogs are healthy" WTF?
That literally can't be healthy like that dogs need meat
“Your cat eats meat because you care about them living a long healthy life? Well that’s just veganphobic! T H R O W I T I N T O T H E W O O D S!!!”
“Veganphobia” is just like having any other trait that people disagree with. Like when someone assumes you’re stupid because you are blonde. Are we going to say “blondephobia” is oppression next. SMH
"ThIS Is BLOnDpHobIA
Oh jeez,, the 'dumb blonde' thing gave me flashbacks to 3rd grade me ranting to my online friends about how me being blonde doesn't mean I'm dumb lmao
Isnt "blondephobia" called lookism? Veganism is a movement, so its more like we have those who dont have rights, but according to the logic of the thatveganteacher, those who believe that they should have rights are oppressed
People actually had rather xenophobic remarks about me sometimes in my childhood due to my hair colour. But because my hair colour is very dark, and I lived in a town in Northwestern Russia which at that point had almost no immigrants and people associated very dark hair with either Roma people or people from Caucasus
"murd3rerph0b1@"
It’s crazy that up until watching this video, I never thought about making vegan choices without making the big commitment of going full vegan. My anxiety and fear of failure as well as my general uncertainty I could make that lifestyle work, is very grateful for this crazy obvious yet non suggested idea.
A tumblr post called this woman “if PETA was a person” and. . . Yeah, sounds about right
Nah, she hasn’t murdered her dog yet.
@NostalgicSunset It died :_(
People still use Tumblr?
@@andysmith5806 her dog is vegan.... so it's gonna kill one soon...😞😂
@@theorangedinosaur4098 yes
“Inside of you, are the the dead bodies of animals.”
Sick, that’s metal
LMAO
what's inside her is also ugly, our digestive system is literally full of shit 😂
We also have a heart and mhhh... kidneys the most delicious I-I mean important(?) organs of the human body.
Hope you get that reference to certain creepypasta ;)
@@therandom1315 hehe, nice. I left the creepypasta fandom a long time ago, but a good reference cracks me up.
"Inside of you, is the dead body of a human" Said the gynaecologist to the woman who had miscarried, but due to some particular bill referencing a heartbeat, the woman could not abort the child and therefore died of sepsis
Thank you for addressing eating disorders in your critiques. At the peak of my eating disorder, I went vegan and vegetarian as an excuse to consume less food and calories overall in my very meat diet based family. In my adult life, I've found that adding vegan options to my regular rotation is much safer for my triggers than trying to take away anything. For right now, that is what is working for my family and me. Love your videos!
It just bothers me that that vegan teacher doesn’t realize we don’t hate on vegans, we hate her.
Yeah like I'm chill if your vegan, vegetarian, and anything else. Liek it's not my business what and why you are eating what you are eating. I mean I eat meat, and eggs, and animals product. I hate the way the industries treat the animals but I am a child and can't make a change at the moment. I will always eat animal products and I hope the farming of them will get better. But she's not even a vegan she's just a racist homophobic old lady.
exaaactly. she acts like she makes up the entire vegan community
seriously I respect vegans and wish I had cheaper vegan options I could buy. I wouldn't go fully vegan but would use almond milk if it wasn't 5 times the cost of cow milk, whyyyy
Even vegans hate her lol
"I HAVE NEVER LIKED SALAD, I AM NOT A FAN OF CRISPY WATER" I-
pfft I-
Lettuce is like 95% water, and most salad ingredients are not too far from that, so yeah. Definitely crispy water.
@@yopassthefuckinsalt922 I actually had to check the comments to get this ^.^
That fact that she said that having an eating disorder is not an excuse for not going vegan is truly disgusting
definitely. I'm recovering from an ed and I wanted to be vegan eventually but it's just too similar to food restrictions and made me spiral into disordered eating. so yeah, no❤️
@@milohasproblems7448 i hope you can fully recover soon
@@milohasproblems7448 i really hope you over come it soon! always supporting u!
That implies that mental illness is an excuse to act violently toward others (and yourself).
Do you agree with that?
@@celifacejones mental health problems can make you act aggressively sometimes but how did my comment imply that at all?
The only way Heterophobia can be real is legitimate fear of straight people due to trauma
i-
why am i feeling it so much-
I was confused for a second when she said the cat she lives with is pretty much vegan, then I realized she is talking about her roommate kat.
I'm disabled and in gastric failure
I would love to be plastic free, but I need my supplies to be sterile and it generates so much waste
I need straws but I can't use reusable ones (they are not bendy enough and require cleaning, I use straws on days where I can't even sit up to drink so I don't have the energy to drag myself to the sink and do that), does that make me a bad person? No.
I would love to chose what I consume, but I can't choose what goes into my feed (I have a GJ tube, I was under TPN for a while)
Animal protein is the most efficient for me and there's nothing I can do about it. Does it make me a bad person? No.
I have a service dog. I'm sure she thinks that's exploitation, but I need him to alert me before I faint, to get help for me if I do, to bring me my supplies when I'm bedbound, to help me get up if I fall. He has a good life, he loves his job. And for my dog's health, he is not vegan. Does that make me a bad person? No.
I do my best, but people like her just make me feel like shit for doing what I need to survive. Life is hard already, it's just mean to beat on people who do what they can.
You’re just doing what it takes to survive, and no one should blame you for that. ❤️❤️❤️
❤️
I need to have open heart surgery to fix a valve that's leaking and they use either a pig or cows valve they have plastic ones but they are not even half as good and I'll already need to change it every 10 years so obviously I'd want the best one..I bet she'd Shame me for that smh
You know, she probably would... 😬 Like why is she putting more effort into saving animals than human beings. I love animals but an actually human life is so so important. Take care of your self! ❤️❤️ I really hope your survey goes well, and you have a fast recovery
*surgery
Although I doubt I’ll ever go vegan, you were a LOT more convincing than ‘That Vegan Teacher’ ever was.
As a vegetarian that vegan teacher makes me want to eat meat just to spite her and I can’t can’t eat meat it will make me extremely sick
Everyone should have the choice.. and the problem is mostly with the industry, the cruelty and overproduction that comes with it. She's making individual people feel guilty for like eating eggs sometimes in a cake or at breakfast, and big companies don't even know her. Her message is obviously valid, but the way she expresses it is stupid, in my opinion. No one will be like "ya i wanna go vegan" after watching a video of a hysterical white woman insulting you because you drink milk. She's tiring....
I am honestly really annoyed at vegans who don't recognize the nuance in egg production. My family buys from small local farms that have their hens roam free and let customers visit and confirm that they're ethical.
They don't kill the chicks and don't sell chicken meat. Some of them sell hen meat, from hens that have mostly lived out their lifespan (but you can easily choose farms that don't do this). It's such a wildly different world from industrial egg production.
@@RebeckadV i was thinking about this, my family buys cage free unwashed eggs from our neighbors, which isn't supporting the big egg industries, right? and my family probably consumes around 2 dozen eggs a week, but since we buy from a small "business" does that mean its okay to keep buying them? as in its still ethical? sorry to bother but since my family isnt vegan (we're pescatarian) after watching this i wanted to know if we were already making one of the small choices she mentioned
I’m an entire year late for this- but my input: I’m autistic and have a really nasty food sensitivity and there’s only a handful of foods I have been able to eat. Milk happens to be one of the only drinks I can handle without feeling very sick, just because my brain rejects almost everything else. I can’t even drink water, bottled or tap. I’ve tried different kinds of milk alternatives and all produce the same reaction from me. Worst part is I’m actually lactose intolerant. So with just that alone I’d have severe difficulty. I appreciate hearing your comment on the eating disorder bit. It means a lot to me.
I love animals and do what I can in other ways, but there are just some that some people are not capable of doing.
have you tried lactose free milks? like lactaid is a cows milk with the lactose removed
the texture of cows milk is one of my major food icks so i have no idea if its actually the same but its worth a try!
theres also lactose pills to take to help remove the pain
Honestly her saying veganphobia us real is like me saying I'm oppressed for liking K-pop, because there are people who make fun of me and sometimes I'm scared to tell people I like K-pop.
That's EXACTLY what I thought of when she said that
That's actually a really good comparison. I'm both vegan and a kpop fan and the hate I get from each is very similar.
@@lawlietlovebot you think you're oppressed for liking kpop? /gen
@@lawlietlovebot OH OKAY I WAS SUPER CONFUSED
I agree with the song, except the veganphobic part, ✨veganphobia does not exist✨
That vegan teacher really said stop being homophobic when she literally made a video saying that its selfish to come out as lgbtq
I believe she also made a statement at one point where she equated coming out as LGBTQ to coming out as vegan.
@BEFM Reddit wuht
@BEFM Reddit I dont get why you are defending that vegan teacher. Wheres the "point" she was tryna make, she said it was selfish to come out as lgbtq and that is homophobic full stop. Also dont you mean SHE doesnt know what shes talking about?? When she comes after people she always changes what they said??
@BEFM Reddit wtf do you mean I would like to know how you think that isnt homophobic?? Wtf
@BEFM Reddit your changing what she said, go to her RUclips and find the video she literally says "coming out as lgbtq is an entirely selfish act"
i completely agree with you on this topic. unfortunately, there are people like her who only discourage potential future vegans and don't understand what homophobia or racism actually means. i personally have been vegetarian for three years now with a few vegan periods. I'm thinking of becoming fully vegan so it was very encouraging what you said about your journey to veganism. thank you
I wanna be vegetarian too, but I love meat too much yet really want to
@@skyisherelol3492 as it was said- small steps. E.g. dont eat meat on one day of the week, and you can get closer and closer to your goal. From experience I know that you get used to eating meat less, and you don't need it as much. At first I got some cravings, now it happens very rarely. Good luck :)
@@MK-jf7rp thank you for he advice!!
I tried being vegetarian at one point because I think I’d love to, doing so helped me find out I have an allergy to a natural sugar that’s found in almost every fruit and vegetable. I can’t do any diets that require eating only those things because of that, but I love hearing about people who have the ability and choose to. Go for it, it sounds great. Have fun. Just don’t be the kind of person who tells others that they’re bad people because they’re not doing it to haha
(Clarification, I’m not calling the original commenter someone who calls people bad for not eating vegetarian or vegan, it was just for any readers in general if they might potentially be that kind of person)
I felt absolutely TERRIBLE when I was vegan for a year, albeit I was 11. I actually have a vegan friend who has been my friend for about 9 years. I want to like Miss Kadie but she's a horrible person so.
when I had an eating disorder I was 20 pounds underweight and if it weren't for things like ice cream, butter and other fatty foods I would have died
I might be late but I hope you feel better now^^
@@yvius3265 thank you I am recovered
@@tyler254 that‘s great to hear ^^
@@yvius3265 thanks :)))
@@tyler254 you‘re welcome^^
About “veganfobia” or whatever she is saying we suffer hehehe we vegans are fighting for ANIMALS rights not vegan rights, wtf? The animals are the ones to be helped and the ones we are giving voice to. Everything in her activism is upside down.
She's taking veganism, which is supposed to be about helping the planet and animals, and made it all about herself.
This do much!! The oppressed group in the animal rights movement isn't the activists its the animals we are fighting for. It would be like someone who is a gay rights ally yelling about "allyphobia" when they speak out and are targeted. You choose to be an ally and you aren't oppressed!
YES
@BEFM Reddit no one is oppressing vegans because to be vegan is a personal choice, you are not born vegan, you choose to be.
Jokes, bad people saying a lot of bullshit... that’s not oppression. Saying a vegan is oppressed is the same of saying that man are oppressed when they talk about feminism, they are not.
I’m not saying that those people doesn’t bother me, or that comments saying that vegans are boring and self absorbed are not absolutely bad for us, but this is not oppression.
There is a difference.
That woman pretends that veganism is about people that are vegan while it is not.
It’s about animals, their rights and quality of life, you see?
Again, I’m not pro jokes and harassment about/with vegans, but I can’t say we are oppressed.
@BEFM Reddit Are you saying that religion is the same as activism? Are vegans oppressing meat eaters when they tell them they are monsters and bad human beings because they eat meat? Wouldn't it be a problem as well. Opressing, killing, dehumanizing people because of their religion, color, nation or sexuality is not the same. No vegan has ever been killed for being vegan. No, I don't think that those jokes and harrassement ar ok, but I also don't think that this is oppression. You can think differently, that's the beauty of life, but I can't put vegans in the same place as jewish, muslims, gays, etc, because we are not in that place. Are man oppressed because there are woman that make jokes about being a man? no, right? Again, you think what you want baby, I'm just not obligated to think the same! ;)
the vegan teacher said "stop being ableist" just to then go on and be ableist.....
... is she ok?
wait nevermind she isn't
What did she say that was ableist? Just curious BTW, she legit seems like a bad person.
@@wschippr1 she has told people with digestive disorders to just be vegan even if it hurts them, someone went on to tell her to stop, another extremist dueted the person and told the person that digestive disorders are excuses, that being vegan would make them much their disorder better or something like that. 😬
@@robotbench6102 that is WILD, some people can have the audacity.
@@robotbench6102 that is disgusting. As someone who knows someone who has a digestive disorder and has seen first hand how painful it is for them to eat, it's genuinely scary how close minded people are.
heres something positive:
during my first counselling session, i was asked how i identify, my pronouns and preferred name. it doesnt sound like alot but it made me rlly happy and i hope it brings some positivity to your day
That's great :)
Yayyy
Yay! I'm glad it's seeping into normal greetings etiquette.
Weeeee that’s amazing
:D
i really appreciated this!!! i personally can’t go vegan because i have ARFID (avoidant restrictive food intake disorder), which means it’s borderline traumatic for me to eat things that my brain doesn’t deem ‘safe’. as such, my diet is very limited and i exist mostly on supplements and shakes. due to my health issues as well as this, i’m not able to go vegan. all your points resonated well, and you were really well spoken! you just earned a new sub :)
“Veganohobia” is NOT a person who isn’t vegan, if she thinks that then it’s basically saying that if you aren’t black you’re racist, if you’re an ally of the LGBTQ+ community and straight, then you’re homophobic. Just NO.
She also made a homophobic comment saying that coming out as LGBTQ+ was not something to be proud of, and that “coming out” as vegan is something that you should be proud of. And yet she still says that if you that being vegan IS something to be proud of, other people might have different opinions but I believe that that’s basically homophobia, which is apparently as bad as veganphobia!
She also said coming out is selfish
Damn she said its selfish to coming out as a lesbian/bisexual/gay or what ever bcuz its (in her opinion) benefits only for the Person itself. And when someone say 'i am vegan' its a benefit for the animals. And THIS IS WHY SHE SAID ITS SELFISH. And again she is also a bisexual woman.
I went vegan at 17 and was pretty aggressive at first too. But you can't claim to be compassionate while hurting other people, and thats something I quickly learned. Sympathize with people, remember how you once were just like them. It didn't make you a bad person, just someone who didn't know yet, and/or couldn't access vegan meals, etc. Small changes do make a big difference! I see tons of people who aren't vegan drinking plant milk, for example, and the impact is pretty big. My ex and I broke up 2 years ago and he still makes some plant based choices here and there because of me. We don't need a few perfect vegans, but instead several imperfect ones.
Also heck yeah I've always hated salad. Let's bake a cake with applesauce in place of eggs n eat the whole thing in one day 😂
Can we all just agree that she is so beatufull with the colorfull hair and makeup and everything
But her most beautiful asset is her words which promote tolerance and learning.
"I will never like Salads"
My Partner joking: "You just haven't had the right salad yet"
lmao took me a minute to get what you're referecing
@@lindaplayspiano I'll probably ruin the joke but I don't get it ;-;
@@erinparker6160 its playing on the argument against same sex relationships "you haven't found the right guy/girl"
@@hannahede6027 oh ok sorry lol I think I ruined the joke
@@hannahede6027 And ace/aro people
That Vegan teacher is like that dad that deleted his kid’s Minecraft world that the kid spent years on since the kid went to sleep late
Lmao
ᒪᘎᑕḰᎩ Tᖺᙓ ᘐᗩᑕᖺᗩ ᑕᖺᓰᒪᘐ I never heard of that one, that's really sad and upsetting. I have a child, now a young teen, that made the most amazing buildings in Minecraft as a small child. To erase that work is like burning a wall-sized painting the child has been working on for years. It's abusive and traumatizing and shows how little the father in question value his child's effort, interest, feelings and self-worth. It will leave scars for life. I just had to say that, and yes, I see the similarities with the "vegan teacher".
honestly yeah, you're right
Or the dad that releases all of his kids shinies in Pokémon because they forgot to do their homework.
FYI they had a living dex.
I’m interested in how she’ll respond to this video. She can’t call you veganphobic or say that you don’t know what you’re talking about, since you’re vegan.
She’s done it before lmao. She called a vegan who replied to her “Not a real vegan because they don’t work for animal rights”. She’s insane
She made a video of it rn check
@@KelleTN she did? Can I have a link pls?
@@aline8576 on the vegan teachers channel look it up
@@KelleTN Holy shit she actually did. I swear she’s just seeking attention at this point, it’s like she’s constantly looking for videos criticizing her. That woman really needs to take a break from the internet istg
I'm a vegetarian, and am trying to consume less and less animal products. I got my family, at least the part that I live with, to be vegetarian the whole month of december and we switched to like 90% oatmilk, which makes a hug difference just because we consume so much milk and I think we really shoudnt degrade small steps like this like you already said in your video. Thanks for making Videos like that where you actually educate people :]
i bet she's one of the vegans who doesn't care about literal HUMAN slavery/exploitation in food production around the world. miss ma'am your hypo-criticism is showing 😂
She only cares about human slavery if the enslaved humans are vegan.
The sad fact is that workers in agriculture are badly exploited, and although this is true everywhere in the world for all kinds of agriculture, it seems to be particularly bad in the meat and dairy industry. We need a change across the board, so workers everywhere are compensated fairly and work in safe conditions. However, once that is accomplished, the mental and emotional toll of killing sentient beings will still remain. There are increasing numbers of former butchers and former animal farmers going vegan and turning their businesses into educational centers and animal sanctuaries, because they know firsthand what happens behind closed doors.
She actually compared it to slavery once so
Most of them want to care for the animals but can’t because of competitive reasons I recommend rotten on Netflix
@@violet-dk1hj she also compared some random shit to conversion therapy
I read the title as “that vegan teacher isn’t a real virgin” and I didn’t even question it 😃🤚
🙂 chain
With an attitude like that, she might be.
@@bekahnavarro lol🤣
Wouldn't that count as consuming animal products?
when she said "cat" it took me a second to realize she meant her friend in the way she said it lmao
Oh my god yes!
Oh my god no
Hello there ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@@TUG657 yes
This is going to sound stupid, but I thought I'd share a story. When I was in university I was forced to take a Philosophy 101 class, and we read one paper on veganism and had a short class discussion about it. I don't remember what really went on in the discussion, but I remember how at the end, the professor suggested that even picking one day a week to eat vegan instead of animal products could help. And that completely blew my mind for some reason. My whole life, I had only been introduced to the concept of veganism as "all or nothing." So the thought that you could just make more vegan choices some times as a stepping stone was completely new to me.
its not stupid, little changes help, as our dear kiwi said in the video.
Im not vegan nor vegetarian, but since i've moved with my bestfriend (she's vegetarian) i eat less and less meat. I think the only meat i eat now its sausages, tuna or chiken breast, and its really rare, like once or twice a MONTH, we still eat eggs and dairy (its not so easy to find vegan alternatuve where we live) but out main intake its vegetables.
So yeah, its not all or nothing, if you can make small decisions through the week, they add up in the long term.
I remember once a girl asked her if she would still go to heaven if she was not vegan, and this girl really cared about it because she was very religious but could not go vegan, and thatveganteacher straight up told her no?? That poor girl was crushed (luckily she got so much support and found reassurance)
What does that woman know about the Bible? Why would she answer a question just to berate a girl for not being able to go vegan?
@@Beth-td6vj I really feel that the "Vegan" Teacher has a lot of mental issues that she's not addressing and instead, she is unleashing them out on everyone else instead. She seems very antisocial, but I ain't saying anything concrete. Maybe no attention should be given to her?
@Luna R why couldn't she go to heaven anyways?
No where in the bible does it say that you need to be vegan
@@Callimo yeah, she really doesn’t deserve attention, but at the same time it makes my blood boil she’d say such toxic things and think it’s ok