He did not see other possibilities from different universes. Universe and timeline are different things my friend. He only see all the possibilities of 616 timelines not 838. Different timeline does not mean different universe. Get your facts straight first if you wanna be a source of information on YouTuBe/the Internet and don't just sprout nonsense.
These shitty AI videos are really getting bad. Strange clearly was going through millions of alternative timelines/possibilities if things were slightly different within 616, not any other dimension.
That’s bullshit. He saw that there were 14 million possibilities in this universe from that point onwards. They knew nothing about time travel or the multiverse at that point.
Agree, there are simply can be not enough possibilities for Strange to see other ones, in other words he may need to see extra 14m possibilities to find another one good.
A) He had the time stone. He literally controled time itself. B) The multiverse was already established in his original movie, where it was explained that the Sorcerer's job is to protect their reality from such threats. According to the Ancient One, they knew a vast amount about the multiverse and Strange therefore had a significant amount of time to learn what they knew. Infinite time, actually, if he used the time stone.
@@corruptangel6793 True. He could control time to a certain degree, but from that point on, he was able to peer into 14 million possibilities. All I’m saying is that the anchor being stuff seems like bullshit to me.
@@jibreelnice7 This is in the comics too. In some comics the infinite gauntlet has been taken to a parallel reality only to become functionless, this has happened to Dr.Doom and even Thanos and Hulk(who at the time got 2 infinity gauntlets) I don't remember the story lines. These are old comics but not silver/classic Era old.
@Asf3478 What? You make absolutely no sense. The avengers were facing Thanos. It had nothing to do with Doom in the first place. Why would Doom want to defeat Strange? What the fk are you even talking about?
Where are you guys getting that he even mentioned 14 million universes?? Also, in deadpool and wolverine, didn’t Paradox say the sacred timeline was Earth-616??
He didn't lie. He didn't see alternative realities, he only saw variations on 616 timeline(his universe alone) so this hypothesis in the video is bunk.
Ironman did not brought Thanos captain america brought,Tony already tolded to captain that we should build a protective shield around earth but Steve ignored that's why Tony sacrificed himself to save the world
There were to more ways to say 1:- Kill gamora ( bcoz soul stone requires sacrifice of most loved one, Thanos loved Gamora the most, if gamora is died than no soul stone ) 2:- Instead of mind stone they should have destroyed Time stone, bcoz if time stone is destroyed than there’s no way to revive it back
He isn’t anchor being. There is only one way to defeat Thanos. And supreme strange killed Thanos but that was in another universe. Different universes carries different possibilities. For example, in that universe strange had darkhold, Thanos came with armour and sword. And there is no Avengers but illuminati existed. So, I challenge Admin to prove me wrong.
Agree with the timeline vs. universe thing that many have pointed out. But also...how do you know that seeing Thanos dead there wasn't one of two very real possibilities: 1) Sure he is dead there, but what if that was AFTER the snap? 2) what if that was the result of possiblility 14,000,606? In other words...he never saw it? Win/defeat cannot by definition, just mean "impale" or ""behead" Thanos...it would have to mean preventing or (as in the films) reversing the snap. You would have seen the same thing if you viewed MCU after Thor beheads Thanos but BEFORE the team finagles time travel.
Marvel released a script saying the story of the canceled Kang dynasty. On it it say the TVA recruit all anchor beings to fight against Kang. It said the TVA recruited Tom Holland's spider man as the 616 anchor being
That scene in Endgame where he signals to Tony Stark that this is the one chance for victory is probably the most powerful scene I have seen so far in any movie.
Those 14 million possibilities were considering the choices they had already made which got them to that point,the heroes present and most importantly the universe/timeline the events were taking place in,so in fact he did not lie.
He is the one to make incursions of alternate timelines. He makes reckless decisions, Wanda dies, forgeting Peter Parker and Tony Stark s death. The real reason he gave up the time stone was for tony.Tony's sacrifice would be for the greater good. He is the suit of armor around the world.
Alright so let me get this straight... Strange made sure he did not die so he could live another 50 years or so So the collapse of the universe is delayed 50 years .......💀💀
Maybe someone is only the anchor of the universe for a given time and after this time (as example the normale lifespan of this beeing) he is freed from his role as an anchor and can therefore die without consequences for the universe.
Fear not, for Dr. Strange knows how to suck power from Dormammu's realm to stay alive till the next anchor being is ready, just like The Ancient One did.
Remember also that he could no see past his own death. So any possible future were hi was dead and the avengers won was not an option. He chose the future with the snap because for him he disappear and immediately reappear in the battle with 2014 thannos and they defeated him. So that why he chose that future
7:51 Sinister crosses the multiverse faster than a speeding bullet taking mutant powers to live in DC as a Superman-reborn in some tales he twists about born under a different star, but has a lab and tech right in the Savage Lands polar region away from Mr. Fantastic
MCU AND 616 are totally different storylines and universes as there are extreme differnces. MCU just is inspired by Earth 616 events such as Wandavision inspired by House of M, Wanda's origin totally changed, they quickly introduced Young Avengers, Agatha's origin is different, Dr Strange 2 is created by Marvel not comics
Along with Christine Palmer’s death is an absolute point in time that cannot be changed. I wish the Multiverse face had more Doctor Strange in it than what it already does. I would’ve liked to seen him pop up in more movies. Like you did in Spider-Man and Thor Ragnarok. I believe that he is the cause of forming the Multiverse as we know it in the MCU. If you run it parallel with Kang and Loki, and Kang stops, I believe that’s when Doctor Strange did that spell so everybody would forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. He was distracted along with the TVA let all those branches branch out. Hence another Multiverse war.
The Ancient One is clearly referencing his potential as a sorcerer, not beings of abstract importance they have no way of knowing about. And Strange didn’t have access to the situational advantages that would be present in other universes, like how Charles Xavier could just turn off Thanos’ brain, so that’s not one of THEIR possible futures
Because the one way he saw was exactly how it happened. That’s why he gave away the stone. Because that was the only way to bring them to the exact outcome where they defeated thanos. And when the ancient one says he was meant to be the best of us, she realises if he gave the stone to thanos it must be flipping important that she gives it to hulk.
14,000,605 possibilities is not all the possibilities that can exist. Those are just the only ones he saw. There are infinite possibilities, therefore infinite possibilities where there won. But among the 14,000,605 possibilities he saw, only that was the one
Personally i believe he saw all the possibilities and realized that there was only one way for Loki to take his throne in the show Loki, i think that Strange set the dominoes falling to allow the version of Loki that would destroy the TVA to be created
I always wanted to ask about the glasses you wear..Is it it UV protected glasses for pc or laptop,or is it your power glasses ? Cuz it looks so good on you ljke Tony Stark in Iron man..
Dr Strange only holds the enigmatic green infinity stone that controls time , while the arch villain Thanos got the other 5 , & eventually obtained the missing one after Dr Stephen Strange allowed himself to be slained because he insisted " there's no other way " but not without an uncanny " contingency plan " of their own 🤗
Dr. Strange cannot be the anchor being of the marvel universe because he dies during infinity war when snapped out of existence. Even if you argue that he came back to life, it still doesn’t explain why the universe didn’t collapse. I don’t think that, even with the darkhold, strange would not be able to beat thanos. In the other universe, he had stronger and smarter allies, and may very well have been facing a thanos that had yet to obtain multiple infinity stones
I don't think he is either, but even if he was it normally takes a thousand years or so for a universe to collapse after an anchor being dies. In Deadpool and Wolverine, the TVA's whole thing was they wanted to speed up that process
He didn't lie, for that particular universe there was only one way, the other 14 million paths Thanos would win. Also he said the number he needed to say to make thanos' defeat a reality. Dr strange was absolutely key in beating Thanos, he made the pieces align
Doctor Strange only saw possibilities of what could have happened from this point. Even if he could see other possibilities from other universes, it would be completely useless because this futures aren't possible to achieve from his point in time. And he also only saw 14,000,605 possibilities although there are infinite possible outcomes. From the ones he saw, only one ended with the victory of the avengers. He maybe even saw a future where the snap was prevented but it wouldn't matter because then the Eternals would have never saved the Earth from the birth of Tiamut. Ajak only had a change of mind because the Avengers brought everyone back.
The 14 million possibilities were the 14 million people that made up both Thanos and Captain America's army! Each fighting against one another for a possible end to the Avengers from Thanos perspective, or the end of Thanos' army from Captain Americas/Dr Strange perspective. Out of all those beings from different worlds, big, small, tiny-- Tony Stark was the one OUT OF 14 MILLION. Tony was a possibility, Thor was a possibility, Hulk was a possibility...each individual fighter was a possibility. It was Dr Strange speaking literal and poetic. How Strange that this narrator missed the parable. The one time to beat Thanos was that moment
Because 21 years ago X2 placed Phases 2, 3, &4 perfectly in order to see the Multiversal Mutant Saga of the MCU Disney eat the Foxverse just as time would have it, Warner DC spit out Clark Kent to play the perfect Dr.NathanielEssex
Th3Birdman explained it better in "Why Dr Strange is not Inconsistent?" video Th3Birdman:(infinity-14000605) =Infinity I present to you; options Strange didn't saw while on Titan. 1-Thanos restrains Thanos with Stormbreaker while Strange portals Thanos' head off You are telling me, in all futures Strange saw, he saw Thanos saying -"you should aim for head" but never an option to cut his head off with Sling Ring Portal to Titan? Saving everyone No Seriously, explain this to me how this is not an option without saying this is what Writers wanted to happen. It's shown in IW that Portals can cut organic matter between them. And Stormbreaker can harm Thanos. Clearly that wasn’t what happened, Maybe my option was 14000606th one but let’s get to option Strange definitely had when on Earth- Th3Birdman EWW CinemaSins NWH- In IW, Strange chose not to Destroy Time Gem or *Avoid Conflict* with Thanos which led to Thanos winning. Side note - Loki director confirmed Time travel is basically the Multiverse What If ? director confirmed its canon to MCU multiverse
Everyone starting to make this theory Doctor Strange is the Anchor Being,but i think it's spiderman because when Kevin Feige choiced actor for spiderman he wanted someone young because first for character development and the other years for is the real spiderman, spiderman is the only one has that,Kevin Feige had the different plans for spiderman,so it won't be a surprise he is the Anchor Being and also when first time spiderman appeard Avengers fall aparted now he finished his character development and they explained the Anchor Being,seems like everything connect with spiderman
"...fall aparted..." and "choiced" before that - reading your comment made my head hurt from the butchery of English grammar, including that runaway train of thought.
Maybe he just said that so everyone would try their hardest. Maybe it was something like 200,000 out of 14 million that they won. That sounds like a lot but it's actually 1 in 70.
They had one chance in that moment in that place. In the 616 universe Avengers were not together when Illuminati area and then they used the Book of Viscianti which was outside the universe but let's not get deep into that since with the Multiverse MCU is not really right
My theory is that since there are an infinite amout of universe's in the multivers and strange only saw 14 million of them he didnt actually see the one were Dr strange kills thanos with the book and he would have probably have lived if he used the book in universe 616 because no one wlse knew about the book or about its danger
There is a major problem with this introduction of anchor beings for universes within the Multiverse of Marvel Comics. Like... What supported the existence of the universe before the anchor being existed in the universe? Also, if the anchor being doesn't have a long lifespan, then neither will the universe that the anchor being is from. I just see some issues with the concept and Marvel needs to do a little more fleshing out with it to make it work. I suppose the ancestry of an anchor being leading to the actual birth of the anchor being could work to explain the existence of the universe the anchor being is from for the universe to exist before the actual birth of the anchor being. So, I suppose if the anchor being were to have children, then that could continue the existence of the universe after the anchor being dies, but there is actually a problem with that idea at the moment because Laura (X-23) was technically Logan's daughter and she didn't end up taking over as being the anchor being after Logan died.
He saw 14,000,605 possibilities, but that doesn't mean he saw all of them. There would be infinite possibilities, but of those infinite, he saw 14,000,605, and in only 1 of those did they win.
Doctor strange could be the anchor being, but the ancient one didnt even know he would gave up the stone. She was talking about him being the sorcerer supreme. EDIT: also starks death was a perfect send off to the character. Stak, knowing of the multiverse could have been bad for the mcu.
It's a little hard to get the Darkhold when you die on a distant moon and immediately have to fight a younger version of the same guy for the fate of the universe the moment you get back, especially when you have to hold back a large amount of water from falling on the fight
I hate to break it to everyone but the Avengers lost! Thanos snapped & 50% of life ended... They had a rematch & won but it didn't fix all the problems created by their loss, in many ways it caused new problems. Some people lost 5 years but didn't age while others grieved your for 5 years & tried to move on. It was not the world pre snap. The Avengers played gods with good intentions but just created different problems.
I have a theory. What if in the many other way,this lead to worse than that? Some examples like… Tony being Kang 2.0? Or maybe even Starlord starts a war against them?
@@Bobby-sc3bqso Thanos is in another dimension now according to you because he got snapped too. Actually snap depends on what the person is thinking because you can control space time and reality at the same time.
@@immortaL132 I never called it a dimension on purpose, im only calling it that because i dont know what else to call it but depending on what IW Thanos did, he snapped them, then Doctor strange and Wong opened up portals mere seconds later to let everyone out to the battlefield, in a way it was as if they got cancelled out of existence like the way you dont remember what happened before you were born. So yes according to ‘myself’ they were not put into a ‘dimension’ (they were deleted basiclaly, i am wrong) but more so they were just cancelled from existence but they werent dead as they were brought back to life a mere couple seconds later (for them anyway thats what they felt). I know this was a mess to read for you probably but i think this is what happened, maybe yeah im wrong but this doesnt seem far fetched from what i was thinking
Also the cat that gets Scot (Ant-man) out of the machine that could have never happened in several other universes were the cat didn’t get Scot out of the machine.
Also TBF we don't know how different each of those 14 million timelines were. What if, for example, there was one timeline where he brought Dr Pepper rather than coke from a vending machine; a choice with a cascade of consequences that have little to do with defeating Thanos but are still a different timeline. For all we know he searched a bunch of minor variations until he found one that worked, rather than exhausting all obvious avenues of approach and finding only one worked.
I don't think it has anything to do with being the anchor being, as Earth 616 is part of the Sacred timeline or whatever. I thought they explained that the main Sacred timeline was the exception and didnt need an anchor being to stick around. Nah I always thought that there were multiple ways to defeat Thanos, but Strange saw that the only way to get things to pan out the way that they did was if he told Tony that this was the only way. Knowing Tony, if he thought there were any other way, he'd be trying to do that instead of locking in, and thus probably screwing things up in the process.
Tbh my theory is there was multiple ways but this was the most reasonable way for their moment. There were over a million ways but that 1 is THEIR TIMELINE
Well Doctor Strange is referring to the 14 million possibilites in HIS universe. The other characters , other than the other characters like Doctor Strange such as Wong and the Ancient One , don't know about the multiverse yet. And even if this is true , Doctor Strange couldn't tell Iron Man this because it would cause paradoxes and make it not happen
I have a simple answer: he just wasn't able to use that way of defeating Thanos, that earth was completely different from the main timeline, a completely different set of characters with a completely different set of powers, and doctor strange was using the darkhold for a while before killing Thanos, he simply didn't have the time to use that strategy and no way of getting the resources to use that way
They should of went back to get the time stone and just use that to time travel, then use the pym particles to put it back where they got it from... would of been easier lol
Ever considered that's just all the universes he looked at but that he didn't look at all the possibilities? Maybe they were more times The Avengers want that he didn't even bother to see.
He never said there was only one way to defeat Thanos. He said it was a 1 in 14,000,605 chance. For every 1 universe they win in, there’s 14,000,605 where they lose. I guess Dr strange got insanely lucky in multiverse of madness to go to like 9 universes in a row where they won. Also, if he were an anchor being, then when he *fucking died* in infinity war, the universe would’ve been destroyed.
This is a numbers probably game. 14 M allows you to find one. If you observe another 14 M you might see a second one. 28 M more gets you two more on average…
It was a parallel universe, did this strange had a chance to get the book? No. Did they have an Illuminati with more powerful heroes? No. Did Strange killing Thanos cause an almost universe ending catastrophy? Yes. I dont think he lied...
No, it's because at this point the TVA existed In every single timeline where they won, or even did anything different the TVA removed them from the timeline Hence, only one possible outcome
Because plot. There are infinite ways to defeat Thanos, many of which fans have been pointing out since the movie premiered. Moreover, the time stone made defeat borderline impossible unless they threw the fight, which is what Dr. Strange did. Thanos is the one who had a 1/14,000,000 chance of winning.
He only looked at possibilities he could imagine. If there was something he just couldn't imagine, he probably wouldn't be able to see that path. At least not unless he brute forces it by experimenting with each minute step he could take. At that point it would become an uncountable number of possible futures. For example he probably never thought of the possibility of Ant-Man shoving a miniaturized building (or any other sufficiently large object) into Thanos' ass and then enlarge it.
Or in this universe they had no idea of where the dark hold and thanos would already have snapped the time they find out.… remember this strange used the dark hold they did not even know what this was at this point how were they supposed to find it
Our Dr Strange did not have Black Bolt or knowledge of the Book of Vishanti. He could only see possiblities branching off from his point in time. He didn't have acces to those resources, so he couldn't use them.
This is just pure headcanon, also Strange didn’t know that nor has it even been confirmed (MOM just said he’s the greatest danger to the multiverse) Also no indication that he lied at all, the seperate universe where the illuminati defeated Thanos was a different timeline entirely with a different group of people, wouldn’t make sense that he would’ve even had the ability to see that even if he wanted to
He did not see other possibilities from different universes. Universe and timeline are different things my friend. He only see all the possibilities of 616 timelines not 838. Different timeline does not mean different universe. Get your facts straight first if you wanna be a source of information on YouTuBe/the Internet and don't just sprout nonsense.
These shitty AI videos are really getting bad. Strange clearly was going through millions of alternative timelines/possibilities if things were slightly different within 616, not any other dimension.
I thought the same, it’s different universe and also it’s different heroes.
Agree, the Multiverse of Madness timeline branches out earlier than when the Infinity War take place. This video is BS.
this is how fake news blossoms. Sadly lots of people subbed to this 😂
Guess I don't need to say anything! LOL! Well put @wynsfield, WELL PUT!
That’s bullshit. He saw that there were 14 million possibilities in this universe from that point onwards. They knew nothing about time travel or the multiverse at that point.
Agree, there are simply can be not enough possibilities for Strange to see other ones, in other words he may need to see extra 14m possibilities to find another one good.
The other universe also had a completely different cast of heroes.
A) He had the time stone. He literally controled time itself.
B) The multiverse was already established in his original movie, where it was explained that the Sorcerer's job is to protect their reality from such threats. According to the Ancient One, they knew a vast amount about the multiverse and Strange therefore had a significant amount of time to learn what they knew. Infinite time, actually, if he used the time stone.
@@corruptangel6793 True. He could control time to a certain degree, but from that point on, he was able to peer into 14 million possibilities. All I’m saying is that the anchor being stuff seems like bullshit to me.
exactly what i was just thinking, besides strange thought that the book of vashenti was a myth so its not like he had it in reserve
He saw his universe chances not others, simple as that
Fr bro
Good point the stones Don't work on a multiverse scale. We saw this in Loki the stones didn't work
@@jibreelnice7
This is in the comics too. In some comics the infinite gauntlet has been taken to a parallel reality only to become functionless, this has happened to Dr.Doom and even Thanos and Hulk(who at the time got 2 infinity gauntlets) I don't remember the story lines. These are old comics but not silver/classic Era old.
"That's how Dr. Strange is always the anchor being" (also can you please change your AI voice back to normal....I really liked it)
He changes it occasionally...
Sorry bro
@@caske77 You're just to scared for people to hear your own voice, aren't you.
What is an anchor being?
Timeline and universe are very different things. Dr. Strange didn't 14 mil universes. He saw 14 mil timelines.
@Asf3478 What? You make absolutely no sense. The avengers were facing Thanos. It had nothing to do with Doom in the first place. Why would Doom want to defeat Strange? What the fk are you even talking about?
@Asf3478 You're reading too much into it...
Where are you guys getting that he even mentioned 14 million universes?? Also, in deadpool and wolverine, didn’t Paradox say the sacred timeline was Earth-616??
@Asf3478 You're guessing and spitting theories, mate.
Or it's just a different universe where things happened differently.
He didn't lie. He's completely unaware of the multiverse at this point. In MoM he's still learning how the multiverse even works and how to access it.
The Time stone would have literally shown him learning about it...
You all can say he lied, and giving other positive possibilities in other universes, but he was in his own universe so maybe he didn't lie
He didn't lie. He didn't see alternative realities, he only saw variations on 616 timeline(his universe alone) so this hypothesis in the video is bunk.
Maybe he stopped looking when he found a way to win.
@@stephenolan5539 he saw all posabillities, maybe he was looking while he already had one. By this I stop the discusion
Tony being alive could create new enemies. (Ultron, Thanos) are examples of these. Tony had to die. Strange knew this.
Because he becomes… DR DOOM. lol 😂
How did he create thanos as a enemie?
@@mitchellklostermann9713 blew up his ship in avengers 1 lol
@@samransom6982 Thanos attacks earth and then Ironman destroys his ship
Ironman did not brought Thanos captain america brought,Tony already tolded to captain that we should build a protective shield around earth but Steve ignored that's why Tony sacrificed himself to save the world
There were to more ways to say
1:- Kill gamora ( bcoz soul stone requires sacrifice of most loved one, Thanos loved Gamora the most, if gamora is died than no soul stone )
2:- Instead of mind stone they should have destroyed Time stone, bcoz if time stone is destroyed than there’s no way to revive it back
*kills star lord* heh nothing personal
All in all, Thanos had the better plan to create a wonderful planet
They would never know thanos loves gamora LOL! They assume thanos is heartless! Gamora herself was even shocked he loved her! She didn’t know!
DR Strange only saw possibleties for his universe because in earth 838 it's the ilmmunity instead of the Avengers.
He isn’t anchor being. There is only one way to defeat Thanos. And supreme strange killed Thanos but that was in another universe. Different universes carries different possibilities. For example, in that universe strange had darkhold, Thanos came with armour and sword. And there is no Avengers but illuminati existed. So, I challenge Admin to prove me wrong.
He can’t because ur not wrong. He just making up shit cause he has nothing else to talk about
They also had professor Charles Xavier and Reed Richard's. The two smartest people in existence
@@TrippyChloe they came after Thanos’ death. If they were with strange at that time, they wouldn’t let him use darkhold.
@Neon00124 oooh ya I forgot about that
@@TrippyChloe 838 Strange solo'ed Thanos buddy. The Illuminati came only after Thanos was dead, to execute Strange.
Agree with the timeline vs. universe thing that many have pointed out.
But also...how do you know that seeing Thanos dead there wasn't one of two very real possibilities:
1) Sure he is dead there, but what if that was AFTER the snap?
2) what if that was the result of possiblility 14,000,606? In other words...he never saw it?
Win/defeat cannot by definition, just mean "impale" or ""behead" Thanos...it would have to mean preventing or (as in the films) reversing the snap.
You would have seen the same thing if you viewed MCU after Thor beheads Thanos but BEFORE the team finagles time travel.
Marvel released a script saying the story of the canceled Kang dynasty. On it it say the TVA recruit all anchor beings to fight against Kang. It said the TVA recruited Tom Holland's spider man as the 616 anchor being
Fuck no!
Thank God this was scrapped
It should honestly be Wanda. She kicked this whole thing off. Her vs Jean needs to happen. With the both getting f their licks in.
Dct strange is the anchor being in our Earth 616...
God, I feel like that would have been either horrible or epic as hell, no in-between.
833 Has Fantastic Four, X-Men, Inhumans. While 616 Doesn't. lol😂😂😂😂
616 has Rune King Thor, Hyperion ohh and Surprise ALL MARVEL Characters
That scene in Endgame where he signals to Tony Stark that this is the one chance for victory is probably the most powerful scene I have seen so far in any movie.
Those 14 million possibilities were considering the choices they had already made which got them to that point,the heroes present and most importantly the universe/timeline the events were taking place in,so in fact he did not lie.
He is the one to make incursions of alternate timelines. He makes reckless decisions, Wanda dies, forgeting Peter Parker and Tony Stark s death.
The real reason he gave up the time stone was for tony.Tony's sacrifice would be for the greater good. He is the suit of armor around the world.
Alright so let me get this straight...
Strange made sure he did not die so he could live another 50 years or so
So the collapse of the universe is delayed 50 years .......💀💀
Interesting
The anchor part of MCU is working
Maybe someone is only the anchor of the universe for a given time and after this time (as example the normale lifespan of this beeing) he is freed from his role as an anchor and can therefore die without consequences for the universe.
Nah that ain't possible there was no replacement for Logan in deadpool's universe available in that timeline
There wasn’t a Strange before him, so maybe reincarnation exists, and the anchor being’s next incarnation is the new anchor being?
Fear not, for Dr. Strange knows how to suck power from Dormammu's realm to stay alive till the next anchor being is ready, just like The Ancient One did.
Keep in mind when that happened, multiverse didn't exist yet.
He didn't lie, Disney no longer cares about plot holes.
Remember also that he could no see past his own death. So any possible future were hi was dead and the avengers won was not an option. He chose the future with the snap because for him he disappear and immediately reappear in the battle with 2014 thannos and they defeated him. So that why he chose that future
7:51 Sinister crosses the multiverse faster than a speeding bullet taking mutant powers to live in DC as a Superman-reborn in some tales he twists about born under a different star, but has a lab and tech right in the Savage Lands polar region away from Mr. Fantastic
That wasn’t his universe, and 14 million possibilities isn’t every possibility
Bruh, Thor himself almost killed thanos in infinity war
MCU AND 616 are totally different storylines and universes as there are extreme differnces. MCU just is inspired by Earth 616 events such as Wandavision inspired by House of M, Wanda's origin totally changed, they quickly introduced Young Avengers, Agatha's origin is different, Dr Strange 2 is created by Marvel not comics
Your "anchor being" was DEAD for 5 years 💀
Along with Christine Palmer’s death is an absolute point in time that cannot be changed. I wish the Multiverse face had more Doctor Strange in it than what it already does. I would’ve liked to seen him pop up in more movies. Like you did in Spider-Man and Thor Ragnarok. I believe that he is the cause of forming the Multiverse as we know it in the MCU. If you run it parallel with Kang and Loki, and Kang stops, I believe that’s when Doctor Strange did that spell so everybody would forget that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. He was distracted along with the TVA let all those branches branch out. Hence another Multiverse war.
The Ancient One is clearly referencing his potential as a sorcerer, not beings of abstract importance they have no way of knowing about. And Strange didn’t have access to the situational advantages that would be present in other universes, like how Charles Xavier could just turn off Thanos’ brain, so that’s not one of THEIR possible futures
He didn’t lie, he just didn’t look at all of the possibilities
Because the one way he saw was exactly how it happened. That’s why he gave away the stone. Because that was the only way to bring them to the exact outcome where they defeated thanos. And when the ancient one says he was meant to be the best of us, she realises if he gave the stone to thanos it must be flipping important that she gives it to hulk.
14,000,605 possibilities is not all the possibilities that can exist. Those are just the only ones he saw. There are infinite possibilities, therefore infinite possibilities where there won. But among the 14,000,605 possibilities he saw, only that was the one
Personally i believe he saw all the possibilities and realized that there was only one way for Loki to take his throne in the show Loki, i think that Strange set the dominoes falling to allow the version of Loki that would destroy the TVA to be created
or he was inpatient and saw only 14M and stopped searching when he found the outcome,
he could've gone for 20M-100M and saw much easier ways
I always wanted to ask about the glasses you wear..Is it it UV protected glasses for pc or laptop,or is it your power glasses ?
Cuz it looks so good on you ljke Tony Stark in Iron man..
Dr Strange only holds the enigmatic green infinity stone that controls time , while the arch villain Thanos got the other 5 , & eventually obtained the missing one after Dr Stephen Strange allowed himself to be slained because he insisted " there's no other way " but not without an uncanny " contingency plan " of their own 🤗
This makes a lot of sense. There were other ways but this was probably the best way.
Dr. Strange cannot be the anchor being of the marvel universe because he dies during infinity war when snapped out of existence. Even if you argue that he came back to life, it still doesn’t explain why the universe didn’t collapse.
I don’t think that, even with the darkhold, strange would not be able to beat thanos. In the other universe, he had stronger and smarter allies, and may very well have been facing a thanos that had yet to obtain multiple infinity stones
I don't think he is either, but even if he was it normally takes a thousand years or so for a universe to collapse after an anchor being dies. In Deadpool and Wolverine, the TVA's whole thing was they wanted to speed up that process
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He didn't lie, for that particular universe there was only one way, the other 14 million paths Thanos would win. Also he said the number he needed to say to make thanos' defeat a reality. Dr strange was absolutely key in beating Thanos, he made the pieces align
Doctor Strange only saw possibilities of what could have happened from this point. Even if he could see other possibilities from other universes, it would be completely useless because this futures aren't possible to achieve from his point in time.
And he also only saw 14,000,605 possibilities although there are infinite possible outcomes. From the ones he saw, only one ended with the victory of the avengers.
He maybe even saw a future where the snap was prevented but it wouldn't matter because then the Eternals would have never saved the Earth from the birth of Tiamut. Ajak only had a change of mind because the Avengers brought everyone back.
The 14 million possibilities were the 14 million people that made up both Thanos and Captain America's army! Each fighting against one another for a possible end to the Avengers from Thanos perspective, or the end of Thanos' army from Captain Americas/Dr Strange perspective. Out of all those beings from different worlds, big, small, tiny-- Tony Stark was the one OUT OF 14 MILLION.
Tony was a possibility, Thor was a possibility, Hulk was a possibility...each individual fighter was a possibility.
It was Dr Strange speaking literal and poetic. How Strange that this narrator missed the parable.
The one time to beat Thanos was that moment
Because 21 years ago X2 placed Phases 2, 3, &4 perfectly in order to see the Multiversal Mutant Saga of the MCU Disney eat the Foxverse just as time would have it, Warner DC spit out Clark Kent to play the perfect Dr.NathanielEssex
Th3Birdman explained it better in
"Why Dr Strange is not Inconsistent?" video
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I present to you; options Strange didn't saw while on Titan.
1-Thanos restrains Thanos with Stormbreaker while Strange portals Thanos' head off
You are telling me, in all futures Strange saw, he saw Thanos saying -"you should aim for head" but never an option to cut his head off with Sling Ring Portal to Titan? Saving everyone
No Seriously, explain this to me how this is not an option without saying this is what Writers wanted to happen.
It's shown in IW that Portals can cut organic matter between them.
And Stormbreaker can harm Thanos.
Clearly that wasn’t what happened,
Maybe my option was 14000606th one but let’s get to option Strange definitely had when on Earth-
Th3Birdman EWW CinemaSins NWH- In IW, Strange chose not to Destroy Time Gem or *Avoid Conflict* with Thanos which led to Thanos winning.
Side note - Loki director confirmed Time travel is basically the Multiverse
What If ? director confirmed its canon to MCU multiverse
Everyone starting to make this theory Doctor Strange is the Anchor Being,but i think it's spiderman because when Kevin Feige choiced actor for spiderman he wanted someone young because first for character development and the other years for is the real spiderman, spiderman is the only one has that,Kevin Feige had the different plans for spiderman,so it won't be a surprise he is the Anchor Being and also when first time spiderman appeard Avengers fall aparted now he finished his character development and they explained the Anchor Being,seems like everything connect with spiderman
"...fall aparted..." and "choiced" before that - reading your comment made my head hurt from the butchery of English grammar, including that runaway train of thought.
Maybe he just said that so everyone would try their hardest. Maybe it was something like 200,000 out of 14 million that they won. That sounds like a lot but it's actually 1 in 70.
15:38 If there were any solace of not demonizing Magneto and his people
They had one chance in that moment in that place. In the 616 universe Avengers were not together when Illuminati area and then they used the Book of Viscianti which was outside the universe but let's not get deep into that since with the Multiverse MCU is not really right
My theory is that since there are an infinite amout of universe's in the multivers and strange only saw 14 million of them he didnt actually see the one were Dr strange kills thanos with the book and he would have probably have lived if he used the book in universe 616 because no one wlse knew about the book or about its danger
There is a major problem with this introduction of anchor beings for universes within the Multiverse of Marvel Comics.
Like...
What supported the existence of the universe before the anchor being existed in the universe?
Also, if the anchor being doesn't have a long lifespan, then neither will the universe that the anchor being is from.
I just see some issues with the concept and Marvel needs to do a little more fleshing out with it to make it work.
I suppose the ancestry of an anchor being leading to the actual birth of the anchor being could work to explain the existence of the universe the anchor being is from for the universe to exist before the actual birth of the anchor being.
So, I suppose if the anchor being were to have children, then that could continue the existence of the universe after the anchor being dies, but there is actually a problem with that idea at the moment because Laura (X-23) was technically Logan's daughter and she didn't end up taking over as being the anchor being after Logan died.
He saw 14,000,605 possibilities, but that doesn't mean he saw all of them. There would be infinite possibilities, but of those infinite, he saw 14,000,605, and in only 1 of those did they win.
14 million is still small considering there are infinite possibilities and MM had characters that were not in 616 Earth.
She said “the best of us”.
Doctor strange could be the anchor being, but the ancient one didnt even know he would gave up the stone. She was talking about him being the sorcerer supreme.
EDIT: also starks death was a perfect send off to the character. Stak, knowing of the multiverse could have been bad for the mcu.
It’s not like there just going to spawn blackbolt and Mr fantastic out of know where
Wow I didn't know thanks for telling
It's a little hard to get the Darkhold when you die on a distant moon and immediately have to fight a younger version of the same guy for the fate of the universe the moment you get back, especially when you have to hold back a large amount of water from falling on the fight
Among us scene 💀
Bro the among us caught me off gaurd
I hate to break it to everyone but the Avengers lost! Thanos snapped & 50% of life ended...
They had a rematch & won but it didn't fix all the problems created by their loss, in many ways it caused new problems. Some people lost 5 years but didn't age while others grieved your for 5 years & tried to move on.
It was not the world pre snap. The Avengers played gods with good intentions but just created different problems.
its spiderman cause he makes money
I have a theory. What if in the many other way,this lead to worse than that? Some examples like… Tony being Kang 2.0? Or maybe even Starlord starts a war against them?
Or... OR, that Strange had the Darkhold, but the one in this Universe, the Darkhold was still missing from the Library.
Even the writers dont know this
But didn't he died with others in Avengers infinity war
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He didnt die though, he got snapped which takes you to another dimension kinda thing
I thought that Thanos was reducing person to atoms, and killing the soul...
@@Bobby-sc3bqso Thanos is in another dimension now according to you because he got snapped too. Actually snap depends on what the person is thinking because you can control space time and reality at the same time.
@@immortaL132 I never called it a dimension on purpose, im only calling it that because i dont know what else to call it but depending on what IW Thanos did, he snapped them, then Doctor strange and Wong opened up portals mere seconds later to let everyone out to the battlefield, in a way it was as if they got cancelled out of existence like the way you dont remember what happened before you were born. So yes according to ‘myself’ they were not put into a ‘dimension’ (they were deleted basiclaly, i am wrong) but more so they were just cancelled from existence but they werent dead as they were brought back to life a mere couple seconds later (for them anyway thats what they felt). I know this was a mess to read for you probably but i think this is what happened, maybe yeah im wrong but this doesnt seem far fetched from what i was thinking
It is always ridiculous when youtubers try to justify the nonsense of the MCU as if the creators have a goal of sense or continuity...
Also the cat that gets Scot (Ant-man) out of the machine that could have never happened in several other universes were the cat didn’t get Scot out of the machine.
Also TBF we don't know how different each of those 14 million timelines were. What if, for example, there was one timeline where he brought Dr Pepper rather than coke from a vending machine; a choice with a cascade of consequences that have little to do with defeating Thanos but are still a different timeline.
For all we know he searched a bunch of minor variations until he found one that worked, rather than exhausting all obvious avenues of approach and finding only one worked.
I don't think it has anything to do with being the anchor being, as Earth 616 is part of the Sacred timeline or whatever. I thought they explained that the main Sacred timeline was the exception and didnt need an anchor being to stick around.
Nah I always thought that there were multiple ways to defeat Thanos, but Strange saw that the only way to get things to pan out the way that they did was if he told Tony that this was the only way. Knowing Tony, if he thought there were any other way, he'd be trying to do that instead of locking in, and thus probably screwing things up in the process.
Tbh my theory is there was multiple ways but this was the most reasonable way for their moment. There were over a million ways but that 1 is THEIR TIMELINE
Well Doctor Strange is referring to the 14 million possibilites in HIS universe. The other characters , other than the other characters like Doctor Strange such as Wong and the Ancient One , don't know about the multiverse yet. And even if this is true , Doctor Strange couldn't tell Iron Man this because it would cause paradoxes and make it not happen
by definition the anchor being was he who remains ...
I have a simple answer: he just wasn't able to use that way of defeating Thanos, that earth was completely different from the main timeline, a completely different set of characters with a completely different set of powers, and doctor strange was using the darkhold for a while before killing Thanos, he simply didn't have the time to use that strategy and no way of getting the resources to use that way
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They should of went back to get the time stone and just use that to time travel, then use the pym particles to put it back where they got it from... would of been easier lol
New task for all the Marvel fans:
There's 1 anchor being among us
Ever considered that's just all the universes he looked at but that he didn't look at all the possibilities? Maybe they were more times The Avengers want that he didn't even bother to see.
He never said there was only one way to defeat Thanos. He said it was a 1 in 14,000,605 chance. For every 1 universe they win in, there’s 14,000,605 where they lose. I guess Dr strange got insanely lucky in multiverse of madness to go to like 9 universes in a row where they won. Also, if he were an anchor being, then when he *fucking died* in infinity war, the universe would’ve been destroyed.
The multiverse began when Peter Parker aka Tom upland messed up the forget his identity thing
This is a numbers probably game. 14 M allows you to find one. If you observe another 14 M you might see a second one. 28 M more gets you two more on average…
Not sure about this. I always assumed Dr S could only see the possibilities in which he survived.
It was a parallel universe, did this strange had a chance to get the book? No. Did they have an Illuminati with more powerful heroes? No. Did Strange killing Thanos cause an almost universe ending catastrophy? Yes. I dont think he lied...
Different universes, different possibilities. It doesn't go any deeper than that
Incorrect. Anchor beings didn't exist at that point and he didn't know anything about that. You are retconning things that you know nothing about
No, it's because at this point the TVA existed
In every single timeline where they won, or even did anything different the TVA removed them from the timeline
Hence, only one possible outcome
Its not really a lie considering if he dies all others will die so technically they lost. So 14 millipn still hold true
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Bruv Doctor Strange saw only the possibilities in the future.
It’s an alternative universe also the multiverse wasn’t a thing yet by then
Also he only saw 14 million possibilities not infinite
Because plot. There are infinite ways to defeat Thanos, many of which fans have been pointing out since the movie premiered. Moreover, the time stone made defeat borderline impossible unless they threw the fight, which is what Dr. Strange did.
Thanos is the one who had a 1/14,000,000 chance of winning.
Tony was anchor being and the MCU is clearly dying without him
Obviously killing Thanos led to Scarlet Witch killing their universe, everything Strange does now is on that same path.
He only looked at possibilities he could imagine. If there was something he just couldn't imagine, he probably wouldn't be able to see that path. At least not unless he brute forces it by experimenting with each minute step he could take. At that point it would become an uncountable number of possible futures.
For example he probably never thought of the possibility of Ant-Man shoving a miniaturized building (or any other sufficiently large object) into Thanos' ass and then enlarge it.
Earth 616 is the comics
Its not Earth-199999 anymore, its Earth 616 since Doctor strange multiverse of madness
Or in this universe they had no idea of where the dark hold and thanos would already have snapped the time they find out.… remember this strange used the dark hold they did not even know what this was at this point how were they supposed to find it
Ah no. He saw all the possibilities in time. The Doctor Strange from multiverse of madness that defeated Thanos is from another dimension.
Our Dr Strange did not have Black Bolt or knowledge of the Book of Vishanti. He could only see possiblities branching off from his point in time. He didn't have acces to those resources, so he couldn't use them.
Even the writers don't know this.
This is just pure headcanon, also Strange didn’t know that nor has it even been confirmed (MOM just said he’s the greatest danger to the multiverse)
Also no indication that he lied at all, the seperate universe where the illuminati defeated Thanos was a different timeline entirely with a different group of people, wouldn’t make sense that he would’ve even had the ability to see that even if he wanted to
maybe that was the 1 he was talking about the when iron man died for the multiveres he made another way to defeating thanos
It’s a different universe the had completely deferent characters