NURSE PRACTITIONER 2.5 YEARS LATER | Regrets, Lessons and Advice for future NP | Fromcnatonp
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- I have been a Nurse Practitioner now for 2.5 years and I am sharing my thoughts about my profession and one of the most frequently asked question I get. This video is my experience only and does not depict the experience of every NP.
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This video is my experience and mine alone, I do want to say I have no issue with online programs! I have issue with fast tract program because I do think they are putting you at a disadvantage of being a good provider for your patient. Take time to nurture your skills as a nurse before becoming a NP!
REAL TALK!!! 👊🏾
Great video!!
Thank you very much for this video. It's always nice to hear honest feedback.
I agree that NP schools need to step up their clinical education at least to match PA schools. But I don't see how 3 years of nursing experience would make me a better provider than 1 year of experience.
How does your nursing experience help you to be a better clinician?
I love you for this🥰🥰🥰
Thanks so much! appreciate it
I completely understand the perspective. I've been an FNP for 12 years and am one who definitely does not regret it. I'm SO glad I went back to school after BSN. There are definitely negative aspects, but positive too and I have never been asked if I went to school online and have practiced all over the country as a military spouse. Just wanted to give another perspective to encourage others out there, go for it!
I’m thinking about pulling the trigger and starting a RN program while working as CRNA, eventually moving to a BSN and ultimately Nurse practitioner. I’m 24 male do you think this is a good field for someone who enjoys science and assisting others
Thank you so much for this positive comment! I’m an RN heavily considering pursuing a FNP program. Again, thank you for your thoughtful comment.
I am a mil so as well! What programs did you take to become a FNP?? Did you do them through your spouses military benefits?
@@schoolofdank5736CRNA is a masters degree….you mean CNA.
May I ask, what are the negative aspects in your personal view? Any feedback appreciated ty! :) are you glad you did it so that you’re not stuck at bedside? Ty!:)
When they went with BSN Only, a lot of nurses became trapped. A nurse today can owe 60-100 grand for the 4 year degree. So now you are a bedside RN. You rapidly learn that eating tons of crap everyday is not your bag. What do you do? Leave nursing owing all that cash??? Get another degree in something else??? Not likely. So nurses run to NP school to get away from the bedside. The online industry is ready to profit from nurses misery.
Everybody can't possibly know everything! EVEN the physicians! So very true! And there's absolutely NOTHING wrong with that! The learning never ceases! I LOVED THIS VIDEO!!! THANK YOU for making it!!
Thanks so much! The learning never stop and if someone think they know it all they need to find another profession!
That’s right.. healthcare is a lifelong learning deal
Here in Canada, you need atleast 2yrs of full time nursing experience, and there are ZERO online NP programs. What I like is that the curriculum is standard across the country!
It’s should be 5 years I’ve been a nurse for almost 20 years I’m starting a np program soon
@@ashleelalasmith2792 why do you think it should be at least 5 yrs? asking out of curiosity
@ Ashleelala: Yes, that’s what I was saying. You’re not even moderately seasoned less than 5yrs experienced (full time).
@@Rooted_Locs because right out of school you have no clue. Takes awhile to put everything together.
@@newyorkapple6192 depends where you started too I have nurses that started in home care 2-3 years that now work in the inpatient setting. Ughhh can’t put presentation of illnesses together. Tasks they are fine at the bigger presentation not so much.
I totally agree about the fast track program. Crna schools require at least 2 years of level one critical care or icu experience and with that your not likely to get in. I think NP programs should require at least 2 yrs experience before applying. I have also noticed many NP programs make nurses find their own clinical rotations. Schools should have strong clinical rotations that NPs can get excellent experience instead of leaving them to beg for a clinical site. PA programs don’t do that
I didn't get in with that experience, but 25 years of LTC, I'm at a complete disadvantage. Have to brush up on all the intricacies of the systems. Definitely feel like an imposter.
@@kb3348 keep your head up 🤗
seems like alot of NP programs are just there to take advantage of the tuition money while the student has to do all the footwork
@@rnhim2072 not only footwork but most preceptors are charging to Shadow them ... that the schools will not pay
This is one of the reasons I chose a brick and mortar university that offers both hybrid and in person classes, especially the assessment classes. Its way more expensive than the online programs but it certainly has a great reputation in the community. AFter listening to this, I'm grateful for my decision and foresight :) Thanks for your thoughts and for sharing!
Thanks for sharing. Wish you all the best
I did the same I searched for a traditional learning setting for my NP schooling and didn’t settle for only online because I love to ask many questions and get my monies ‘s worth.
FNPs do well in Palliative Care and well respected 👌
I was a FNP for 10 years before going back for the PMHNP. I love being able to provide care in both specialities and could never do acute care. I prefer outpatient and the flexibility to work remotely in psychiatry. Choosing a speciality really is an individual experience of what aligns with your spirit and skill set.
Im forever an acute RN, and will purse the acute NP program
Wonderful! I am half way through FNP and I want to start on getting my psych NP next year when I graduate. I want to do both too. I am from North Carolina and I haven't met anyone I can talk to that has both. I am trying to stay motivated,lol
I’m an FNP- will be done with psych program in 4 months ❤️
For PMHNP, do you have any suggestions on programs??? I'm looking into programs rn. I went to college and got a BA in psych, so not nursing... which is kinda why I'm in a bit of a cross road between fast track programs or not...
@@Holli0130 Vanderbilt has a two year program I just applied to you can become a pmhnp in two years which is better than if you did a direct entry MSN and then did a post graduate program which is about shortest method a year
I think acute NP is good for nurses that love the hospital environment. FNP is more office, nursing home residents, played back practice style.
Great Video! I have had my battles finishing my NP, to professors trying to fail me, bad preceptors and just discouragement. not feeling supported, bullies and general mean people. But Im pushing through and finishing this May couldn't be any happier
You got this! This is another thing I think with the NP program we need good solid preceptors, we cannot expect to have preceptors doing it just cause, students are not truly supported enough and graduate feeling uneasy. SO sorry to hear about the professors. Best of luck my dear.
Preceptors and professors? , as in several people trying to fail you?, if one person tells you something, ok , if 2 tell you something negative or criticize you mmm, 3 you may have to start thinking into looking at yourself. Just saying there is a lot of people that go in the medical field because of the money or any other wrong reasons to do it ONLY for that, and they become miserable Health c providers and make others miserable as well.
Obviously AANP exam has been a pain in my ass, but that won't bother me anylonger i have gotten my license already thanks to you Mr James God bless you more cuz you made it possible for me
Nice video 😍😍😘 your video is so cool, honestly AANP is such a difficult test man , really don’t know what to do but I’m never losing hope
@@margarete7578 I’ve always believed AANP is not about studying, you need God’s grace to pass
@@maryjane5370
Sometimes it doesn’t matter how hard you study you also need to pray to God for success
@@marionsandy4749 very correct
I have a cousin who never studied much, we studied together but she gives most of her time to her phone than studies after writing the AANP test last month she passed and I failed 😣, I asked her how she did it , just found out she got her help from Mr James
Thank you so much for this video! I definitely do think that NP programs should be more vigorous , just like how CRNA is so highly esteemed , NP school should be like that too
Thanks for watching! All the best to you on your NP journey
If you want np school to be on the same intensity as CRNA school ur mad lad. Crna’s get paid 160k+ np get paid 110k
@@mikeb4471So because the pay is not equal you want to put people health at risk? Are you one of those people that think “I do my job based on my pay grade?”
If the NP schools were not a dime a dozen physicians would actually take NP serious. I worked in a nursing home where a NP was begging a doctor to take over his patients while he went on his month long vacation to India 🇮🇳 his home county. He would not do it. He said diplomatically that he doesn’t trust anyone with his patients but the way he said it was he didn’t trust a NP with his patient.
Is NP an oversaturated market???
I have heard that is kinda hard to find a job.
The NP’s in my ED are cool. I get along with them effortlessly. You have a very unique role with patients and colleagues alike questioning your credentials. Whatever you do, keep being awesome! Love your videos.
Agreed. Schools need to be held accountable, but it’s up to us to do our own research to be able find which program or profession is best for us.
When I decided I wanted to go back for my NP I really struggled between acute care and family. I ultimately went with family because although I truly miss the ICU, I knew that the excitement of that hustle and bustle environment wouldn't last for more than 5 years so I chose family for the flexibility of being able to work in a variety of environments and across the lifespan. Now looking back I wish I'd gone the psych NP route. The demand is high for that specialty. If I could find a program that didn't cost a fortune and could complete in 1.5 years I'd go for it.
Also, for the person that mentioned writing papers doesn't help with diagnosing and treating patients, I disagree. I wrote TONS of papers including dissecting case studies and let me tell you; a lot of the information that is etched into my brain now has come from writing those lengthy papers that required hours and hours of research (current, peer reviewed). There is a method to the madness of NP schools but it works.
Nice video 😍😍😘 your video is so cool, honestly AANP is such a difficult test man , really don’t know what to do but I’m never losing hope
I’ve always believed AANP is not about studying, you need God’s grace to pass😩
Sometimes it doesn’t matter how hard you study also need to pray to God for success 🙏🙏
@@gracerez1817 very correct😩
I have a cousin who never studied much, we studied together but she gives most of her time to her phone than studies after writing the AANP test last month she passed and I failed 😣, I asked her how she did it , just found out she got her help from Mr James 😥
Please does anyone know who this Mr James is ? I really need to speak with him 😩
Passing the AANP test is when you study hard, if you can't study or you don't have time for your studies I'd advise you get yourself a help like Mr Riq
Sometimes I feel like aanc is just a strategy to frustrate we foreign nurses
Only the grace of God and mr Riq help saw me through this exam at once, I am a single mother and didn't have time to study at all
What’s Mr riq
That's why I was looking into PA so I will be able to specialize in anything at anytime.
Its not that easy..... technically yes, but many places want you to have a “residency” / advanced training in the new field. You don’t get hired just like that after deciding to switch fields. You’re going to be fighting against many other pas who have experience in that field or have advanced training. Nursing is just as flexible, and nurses in general are seen as having more “experience” since they are hands on faster than pas. nurses are seen to have more in depth knowledge. Plus the pa career is overly saturated right now.
Acute Care NPs can easily specialize in particular practice as well
PA work and NP work is essentially the same
Only PAs think that they can show up to a new job and after short period of time they are "specialists." The danger of that flexibility is that they can be replaced by less trained, cheaper, young graduates.
thanks for sharing a great video, I've been full time FNP little more than 1.5year in Internal Medicine. facing lots of challenges, imposter syndrome.. your frank opinion of regrets being FNP is totally agreed. I used to work in ICU as RN and I thought I would continue acute care as NP but I'm actually falling in love in primary care unexpectedly!. love to talking to pts (but not too much.. ) and seeing them walki talkie (you know what I mean lol).. so interactive and rewarding compared to seeing critical pts :) anyway look forward to seeing your next video !!
Depends on where you attend. Too many NP programs just for the money. I attended a very strong program. Access to a top sim lab, teachers who are knowledgeable and authors of multiple work, all our clinical rotations were already arranged with multiple medical centers and preceptors. We all got job offers before we even finished our last semester because everyone knew the program produces top notch grads. Oh yeah and no one had less than 5 yr icu experience in the acute care program.
Which school did you go to?
I think this was an informative video. By the end of the summer I would have completed a direct entry program which I believe is what you are referring to as a fast track program. I will say that during the RN portion of my program a lot of the clinical instructors or other nurses on the unit HATED the fact we would become RNs and then transition right into FNP. I get it. RN practice is an important part of being a nurse practitioner. My school had a requirement that we work as RNs while completing FNP portion of the program. But I will say that that my school has produced some very highly regarded FNPs through the direct entry program. I will also say it is important to choose the route that aligns best with what you want to do. In my opinion FNP route isn’t the best if you know for sure you want to work in acute setting. I feel like the curriculum is geared towards outpatient settings. I also think the FNP curriculum definitely needs some standardization especially in clinical settings. A lot of schools especially online have their students begging providers for clinical placement. Also because it’s so hard to find placements schools dump you in any setting that will take you. The clinical training is quite embarrassing. Either way I know for sure that I will do everything I can to get into a residency program. It’s lower salary and still might feel like school but I feel like that is needed and would still feel that way even if I had years of nursing experience
Such an inspiration ✨️ im in lpn school now and work as a cna ( which i love) and you totally inspired me to go the full way and get my np. Ill look back to this and definitely big you up! God bless
All NPs have to pass national certification board exams regardless of whether they went to a brick and mortar school or online format. Perhaps the conversation should focus on reforming the certification exams if people believe becoming a NP is too “easy.”
This is another conversation that a lot do not want to have. I think a lot of ppl are missing my point on this video. I have no issue with online at all! Thanks for watching
Agreed! At the end of day we all have to pass boards!
Passing the exam doesn’t mean they are prepared to become a provider.
The exam is easy in comparison to the Usmle exam that doctors take.
@@SaSpursFan how do u know?
The online programs also require clinical hours. Wahts wrong with doing it online if this is the case? You study and take proctored exams then have to take the same state licensing exam anyways. What's the problem? Your comment was just as negative as the folks who judged you in the first place.
ya they suckered u guys in2 trying 2 replace doctors, bc that would reduce wages paid by the ultra supergreedies, if it worked
No one ever thinks anything of it until they realize the process to get there... it’s not easy but there’s a misconception there
I recently took my nclex rn and passed pv me for assistance
I'm reviewing for my FNP boards now.
Congratulations and all the best to you
Thing is this though my nurse sister.....if we are doing this for the glory of God and truly care about our patients - humanity, we should not care how we are seen or perceived. Just care and Godspeed! People who experience our care, mind body and spirit? THEY (and God) are the only ones that matter. Be agape loving and proud, and all will be better because our focus is priority.
I’m an AGACNP. I did not go the online route because I really wanted the in class experience and I feel like that was the best route for me as I was an acute care nurse for 10 years prior. Now, I don’t regret going the acute care route however I do wish I had gone back right away for the FNP. Mostly because it’s much more difficult for me to get an urgent care or ED job because I’m not trained in pediatrics. But other than that I can do pretty much anything else Involving adult medicine. However, I believe that the NP should have the same variation on education as a PA does. It just makes more sense and leaves more options open.
Thanks so much for watching. I did not do the online route bc I just prefer in class experience. All the best to you
Can you get the FNP certificate?
@@penandpencilplow I would still have to go back to do the DNP or find a masters program that offers a post masters certificate.
Best wishes to you. I’m sure you will do great!
I think pa receives better schooling and training
Thank you sharing, it’s a conversation starter. As a nurse with 30 years in (LPN, ASN and currently MSN) the biggest thing I have pause for is the fast track program. I think that there should be a minimum amount of years practicing at the BSN level as a prerequisite for NP. I’m researching an ONLINE post-masters program for a PMHNP. I enjoy all of your videos! Continue presenting issues that spark conversation 😊
Thanks for sharing!! I am happy to start the conversation, I do think that many do not like to hear this and they think I am saying do not become a NP. I have had this conversation before and I was told it is what it is because of so much shortage of primary care MD, but we still need to train well.
I whole heartedly believe there’s a need for NPs and I suggest those who fast track (in states where you can provide care without MD supervision like here in Arizona) to stay under a doctor and learn as much as you can for a few years. I have also seen some awesome NPs here on YT! This will always be a discussion, however at the end of the day people are gonna do what they want and established NPs should be there to help guide as they can. That’s one of my long term goals, to become a mentor and physical preceptor...that’s where there is a shortage as well!
Well said! Thanks for the conversation
I am going for my PMHNP as well!
Adding a barrier to entry and trying to make it hard to get into Nurse practitioning and DNP'ing is just silly. The fact that you can be approved for a program in a couple hours is a good thing. Do you really think an institution needs more than a week to review you as a candidate? No they do not. It's all just a charade and foolishness. You are either qualified or you are not. Making the wait longer is irrational imo or illogical.
If you aren't happy with FNP, have you looked into a post-masters/doctoral program that will give you acute care certification?
I beg to disagree that becoming an NP is an easier route compare to PA. First, you have to have a Bachelor degree, pass a state board exam/FNP certification (RN/APRN), and have at least two years experience as an RN to become an NP.
Where you go to school doesn’t matter. At the end of the day, it’s all about the individual knowledge, talent, problem solving/communication skills, and most of all attitude that matter. It’s an advice I got from a highly respected ER doctor.
I got my FNP degree online with 27 years under my belt as an ER RN and was able to pass my FNP(BC) certification two months after my graduation. The only difference between me and those who went to Ivy League Schools is that I don’t have 6 figure student loan. LOL ;D
I am also happy and satisfied with my job. Thank you.
Thank you for your insight and I am happy you are satisfied with your job! One 💚
I dont understand why the negativity and judgment . It's not easy to even get into RN school its not a dime a dozen degree yes many go that career path but to get there for many is not easy. I am aspiring to become an RN ultimately a CRNA but all the schools are competitive to even get into trade school or community College so just from the get go they don't let anyone and everyone in . The people saying that stuff must not even have tried to get into nursing or looked into it . Dont sweat it I admire you and what you do your journey I guarantee was not easy nursing school is no walk through the park like so many tell me how hard it is .
It is true, I spent 10 years of my life preparing to get into a BSN RN at mdc, a very competitive school but I made, so you can.
@ Michelle Flores: Ppl who sit in the background talking mess how a certain profession is “easy” to obtain wouldn’t even make it if they tried. They have NO idea what they’re talking about. And meanwhile they have no degrees or “profession”.
@@TheMissPiolin RN is school is harder to get into than NP school! I applied to 3 different NP schools and 2 of them sent me acceptance letters before I even sent transcripts! It happens a lot! Im going to be a Psych NP and so many people are jumping on because they see money! They dont even like Mental Health yet they are going into this program because they can get in with minimal effort and they know they will potentially going to make a lot of money as a Psych NP.
@@tanisha2058 the admission process may be easy but the course and the board exam are not!
@@haouacoulibaly3326, I agree but that doesn't stop the influx of people applying for the wrong reasons! NP program admission Versus admission into Nurse Anesthetist Program are vastly different when it comes to degree of difficulty. My thought was, that it should be a little tougher to get in! The boards are the boards, yes they are difficult but its standardized testing! If a person has good test taking skills and studies they can get through it! If the process was a little more difficult upfront it could potentially decrease the amount of nurses "Going just to Go" and decrease the stigma! Im only speaking from "MY" experince and seeing some people just do it for the money! I know NP's who never went to clinicals and brag about it! Now they are practicing and it shows. Some who truly arent in it because they are passionate about it. Thats where the stigma comes from. All of the docs I work with are hesitant about NP's for that reason. It makes it difficult on the rest of us that actually did it because we enjoy it.
There are not a lot of in-person schools these days for graduate school.
Can’t you just get a certificate for acute care since you already have a masters
Schools like Chamberlain…Walden accept because of the money! That’s the bottom line….money. Thank you for sharing your perspective!❤️
I had to speak with the Dean of my school & had ER/ICU/Trauma (>15 years) That's crazy to go to grad school without any exp.
AGREE! I am an FNP-C > 20 years, You have to have the background and intense clinical training. I have practiced in Internal, Occupational, Sport Medicine and Pain Medicine. You're the kind of NP I would love to be my Provider.
Thanks so much for watching and for your kind words
@@fromcnatonp Hii! My name is Gabriel. I am from Brazil. I am studant the of nursing. Nurse practitioner in full practice can diagnose and prescribe in other care or only in primary care? Thanks!
Feel bad for you that you entered a specialty that wasn't a good fit for you, but a lot of your opinions appear uninformed.
I really enjoyed this video it was super informative thank you!!! I’m currently starting my MSN program and from there become an NP. I want to specialize in Neonatal Care. At first I wanted to become an FNP but while doing my research I found that there are many more specialties.
Thanks so much for watching! Yes many more specialties that you can choose from. Not only FNP. Best of luck to you
Your accent is soo thick, thats why you cant stay on the np role
NPs have no place but handling the most simple cases in the ED.
I think there’s a huge disconnect with education, and I feel like there should be a minimum of 5 years in the acute care setting before being able to transition to np. I also think you should have ICU experience
@@Shivermetimbers90 All good things but still none of that is remotely close enough to replace and EP or run an ED.
Did you go to school online ?! This is a weird, stupid question for people to ask you. I think it must be something peculiar to local perceptions and lack of understanding about the role. I'm in the UK so different I guess. I did my masters online it's still a master's from a top uni. So daft people think it's a lesser degree / training
agree with u.
Well, I watched your video twice and I have a few things to say. First, we are very proud of your accomplishment on becoming a nurse practitioner. It's not an easy thing to accomplish. It seems like the negativity from other ppl that are trying to decrease your accomplishments. I feel that part of it just plain jealousy. Also, some MD's feel they had to go to school for many yrs and an NP can own their own private practice. Now, the other side of the spectrum...every place I go now, all I hear is, "I'm going to nursing school." I am seriously concerned about where our profession is heading. Will this drive the pay all the way down? I don't feel that everyone is doing it because they genuinely love the art and profession. So the accreditation body that accredits these "fast-tracked" programs are hurting the nursing profession. I want to do primary care. I don't like acute care, but I was surprised you did FNP because you came from the ICU. I feel that the best way to survive is to be highly specialized in an area where many people can't really break into easily.
Don't think its as simplistic as MDs feel they had to go to school for many years. Experience can only take you far without the knowledge base. Becoming a doctor requires understanding in-depth pathophysiology, mechanism of action and pharmacology to anatomy and physiology and much more. Exams are tough as hell but only an indication of one's ability to critically think through not-so-simple presentations and integrate the vast amount of information. Then you train 3 + years, honing practical clinical skills under rigorous residency standards and guidance from attendings and upper levels. Ultimately, its doing a disservice to patients to provide minimal care and feels like you want the clout of being called a doctor with a fraction of the work.
@@burneymaha92 NPs arent called doctors tho...
If nurses are understaffed why are we feeling a way about more ppl wanting to be nurses??
Thank you for stating that you still have to look things up! I’ve been an RN for 15 years and now in graduate school to become an NP. There is so much to material to cover in class and I get nervous that I’ll forget something when I become an NP. I still look things up as an RN but forgot about that until you stated it in your video. I want to give a shout out to all the amazing NPs!! My primary care provider is an NP and she is amazing! I prefer NPs over MDs …but I may be a bit biased😏
Yes. I was working with a pediatrician in the ED who pulled out her book to look up something. No one knows everything
My husband is an acute care NP, graduated may 2022, starts his first NP job next month, so even acute care is having issues in the job field
I am a psych NP, no regrets for choosing that route but yes the difference in education is astounding. I did an Accelerated MSN program. I was a Respiratory Therapist for 5 years before getting my MSN. I didn't have a hard time finding a position after school I chose to travel as a psych RN before starting as a NP and I am glad I did. You are absolutely correct about knowing what interests you before choosing a specialty. I was fortunate as a RT working at the largest Level 1 trauma center and research/teaching hospital in my city I was exposed to every area. I knew I did not want to work in the hospital anymore and wanted an area that allowed me to work outpatient. Very good video!
Do travel psych rn get paid more than regular travel nurses that work in like the ICU ?
@@CP-fw7lt not sure. I don't know what ICU travel nurses make so I'm thinking probably not.
How was the accelerated MSN and what made you choose that over a ABSN - my dilemma now!
@Krystal Owusu My ultimate goal was to be a NP and with the accelerated MSN that was what I graduated as.
@Krystal Owusu I'm sorry I only answered part of your question. The program was very intense we completed the BSN portion in a year then the NP portion was over 2 years as it was part-time.
I would love to see anyone who says nursing school is easy get pass the 1st two years of nursing school and still say that!!!
About to get to finish my ADN, lol. Pure hell
NPs need to work for themselves wherever and whenever they can.
Even if it is online, there's still a licensing test
I agree 100% Nina Simone.
Nina Simone
Yes, exactly. Whether the didactic is on line or in a classroom makes no difference whatsoever. Whether you are sitting in a classroom with your instructor, or sitting in front of a computer with your instructor, what difference does it make. You have to learn the same material to pass the exam, and clinical hours are still hands on, skills training in various clinical settings.
This is great insight! I’ve been indecisive towards NP or PA for so long that I’ve been gearing towards med school at this point. Such a great video & thank you for sharing! 👏🏻
Glad it was helpful! Best of luck to you
Go to med school
Did you end up going to med school!?
I think you’re assuming to much. The people who are asking “if you got your degree online” are probably asking because they are interested and probably are trying to determine whether or not if being a nurse is a viable career path for them and if so how easy would it be to take that journey, most people when they are making such assessment as it relates to a career naturally try to go the path of least resistance, (attending a brick and mortar school isn’t for everyone) so they’re probably asking you because if you did indeed get your degree “online” this is something that they will probably want to do themselves, it’s not because they’re looking down on you and how you got your degree, if anything they admire you for it.
I’m sorry that happened to you. I’ve been an NP for 8 years and I’ve never had anyone ask if I went to online school. I have had patients and staff ask what an NP is which is understandable and I don’t mind giving a brief description. Here and there I’ve had patients say they want to see a physician instead but it doesn’t happen often.
One big issue is that many of us don’t introduce ourselves as NPs or correct the patient when they say doctors. The problem with this is that a lot of folks have received excellent care from NPs that they thought were doctors. Then when one of us actually clarifies we are an NP, they are like “what’s that?”
All that being said… it’s sometimes better after a few years because after that they don’t feel like they have to train you and you can get a better job.
I completely agree about nurses being haters. Not all but the disrespect is ridiculous
I also believe that all NP schools should require at least 2 years nursing experience. They set people up for failure when they don’t
Hey sis you make so much sense! I am an ED nurse and FNP clinical is just boring because I am so use to acute care...the ED craziness. Although, I need a break from that craziness to something less stressful so I guess I am on the right part. Thanks for all the information
Thanks for sharing!! Yes just know what it is that you want to do and you have it all figured out! Good luck to you
I'm honestly curious - with that ER experience, why didn't you look into an Acute Care NP program? Unless like you said you're looking to get out of the craziness!? I understand that though, btw - I worked in ER at a Level 1 trauma center and it's definitely exciting but exhausting - especially the older we get! But again, I was genuinely curious for your reasoning in choosing FNP instead?
Me too
Thank you so much for sharing your experience! But I also want to share and advise something very important. As a young woman, I allowed many people to dictate my career goals, by telling me that PA or NP is not a great field, you are looked down on and etc. And unfortunately, that has been my biggest downfall and regret. If I have to be honest, being a PA or NP is one of the greatest career fields out in the medical field. Sometimes you cannot allow people to project their fears and failure on you. I wish I had continued my education and went to nursing school and become a NP. Now I am 22, stuck at a low paying law firm with little to no area for advancement. I’m working towards a excel business administration degree, and now considering PA school after. Continue to thrive as a nurse practitioner, you are competent enough, you are not just a “nurse with a master’s degree”. You are a great healthcare provider!
Please do not think your dreams are lost. You said you are 22. This is still way young enough to be who you want to be. I saw a video about a 64 year old who went back to school to complete earn his high school. He was born in poverty and hardship. He is now getting is Masters in education. He looks and speaks much younger than his age. It is a blessing if one can pursue an education at any age. The road may not be easy. Perseverance pays off.
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Hmmmm, thanks for your honesty. I have been a FNP for 9 years and I agree with you. My school was traditional classroom and I belief I got a very rounded education. The problem with nursing generally is that there is no standardization in the programs. Even though we have same governing bodies and licensure process. I have precepted FNPs in clinical before and their knowledge base is usually dependent on the quality of the program they are in.
Seriously these days I discourage people from getting FNP, I’d rather they go for the psych NP, even though I can already predict that, that too will soon be over saturated. These conversations are important. Thanks for being a voice for nurses. Cheers.
Totally agree that there is no standardization in programs. Thanks for sharing your experience. I do think that if more of us talk about it without fear of being looked at as negative it will push the NP profession further, which is what most of us want.
I definitely encourage you to be yourself and focus on your practice, keep up the good work, people are gonna be people at the end of the day, no matter what happens no matter what you do you cannot please everyone, that’s just the dynamics of life, so just keep up the with the good work you re doing, focus on your practice and keep doing what you know best, All the good nurse practitioners definitely rock including you and I, Online education is tough and is built/Designed to meet our standards, I’m not even worried about here say and they say, criticisms and judgment by people who cannot even do it. Take a lot of credit for yourself I wish you good luck in your practice👍
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embarrassment and heartache I'm feeling. 😢I'm confident that I'll be a good nurse. I just need to get past this, move on and persevere
chin up, just saw your comment and wondered if you eventually passed your exam ? i trully hope you did. we need amazing peple like you in this world. from a fellow nurse
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I am just starting out the nursing education. Well currently I am a CNA/PCT in a hospital setting in a Telemetry unit. I was a Medical Assistant in a children’s Outpatient Clinic and I absolutely loved it there. I am at a Community College working on my ADN/RN. I will transfer to a BSN program and will specialize in pediatrics. The good thing about my hospital is that it is an educational hospital and I can definitely gain experience in pediatrics. Then I will work my MSN-FNP. I see tons of opportunities in my state.
2020 showed us that many people are going to complete the majority of their education online! I'm in a hybrid program where we do our clinicals obviously in person, the majority of instruction and lectures online, but we do in-person instruction for "hands-on" type pass off of skills that we are doing in clinic. So I never know how to answer the question of is my program online. Yes, no, and some of it, but not the part that counts (seeing patients!), LOL
With Covid on the uptick, I suspect online/hybrid education in many disciplines of medicine perhaps getting stronger.
I agree the curriculum of pursuing FNP has been watered down resulting in diploma mill programs, lowering our profession. My program was not online. I need engagement of hands on and feedback. Oversaturation is becoming a problem in many areas, but I do not concern myself with what people say I know what I bring to the table. I take my job seriously, I stay on top of my education and use my resources. I am going on 4 years and do not regret my decision. You have to determine how your path is going. It is unfortunate a few bad apples attempt to ruin a great profession.
Thanks for sharing and watching. Definitely staying on top of it all and taking it seriously is great. Happy you are not regretting your decision. All the best !
NP program is not easy at all,, after all high GPA, essay and more essay writing, books and lectures. No it s not easy
If people getting accepted which I have never heard of,,,,,,,,,,,probably they met all the requirement
I have nothing against direct / accelerated programs. I dont see any better nurses amongst those that did traditional at all. I dont see that many who r interested ' what is wrong' so
accelerated program are good some could be just good at this career while some are not made to be a NP/PA
Most MSN programs are online all clinical in person you learn most from hands on real life clinical studies
You sound like you have the same attitude as the NP I just had a horrible appointment with. Because of that experience I am never going back to another NP or PA. I think discussing options when you are in the office and hearing a patients feelings are a benefit. The NP I had more or less told me this is the decision they made. Luckily, I had a visit with my cancer doctor the following day. He changed and added some medicine and it has had good result. I am not even saying they were wrong, what the wanted to do probably would have worked. I felt I was not getting a full hearing or listened to and was getting a short term answer to a long term problem
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Short answer: they’re haters. Long answer: NPs only get negative attitudes because physicians do not like us gaining practice autonomy. They REALLY don’t like this and want to discredit NP capabilities at every turn. It’s an ego and money thing. Other ppl are just sheep that latch on to negative sound bites. Your video almost sounds like you’ve bought into the negativity and that’s unfortunate. Most NPs have been RNs for a substantial amount of years before enrolling into NP graduate programs whether online or not….not all but definitely most.
Aren’t future doctors and pa’s doing online schooling now? What happened with that? Lol
Also to be honest this is a superiority complexes issues that society teaches to people. I have noticed that the healthcare field is full of these type of people and it is really incongruent with what this field means. I see it same as philanthropy in which some gets in there to avoid as much taxes as possible. I hope you get what I mean. :)
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If you go to a reputable direct entry MSN school like Emory or Case Western, do you still think that’s a bad choice over doing a ABSN and then getting experience? It seems these programs over 1000 clinical hours and some people take a break to work full time in between the MN and MSN part or work part time during the NP. I just know I want to be a pediatric primary care NP but have my bachelors in another field. The direct entry seems reasonable because you apply once and get your MN and MSN at the same school within 3 years.
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The reason that some people ask you if you did an online program is because there are online nurse practitioner diploma mills, and more and more patients are becoming aware of this problem. I have seen one online program which advertised that a nurse practitioner can receive their doctorate in three semesters if part time or one year if full time. Persons do this and then walk around the hospital calling themselves "Doctor", but not specifying that they are a nurse practitioner instead of a physician. I personally know a nurse practitioner who did one of those programs and then introduced herself to patients as "Dr. So and So."
It's dishonest and is an attempt on the part of the NP to make the patient believe the NP has more education than they actually do. I'm not saying the poster of this video did this. I'm saying that because other patients have been burned by NPs who did this, they now ask more questions so that they know the credentials of the person who is supposed to be responsible for their care.
Awesome video! I too think the NP role has a bad reputation bc of the fast track online schools.
Most definitely but folks think I am being negative. Thanks for watching
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I am a FNP and I used to be a CNA! I have no regrets. Do not let anyone make you feel bad. No its not easy! I don’t like bedside nursing so I am doing Aesthetic.
This is my goal. Aesthetic/Dermatology
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Aesthetic nursing is great! I am planning on exploring that field of nursing when I become burned out from bedside care. I want to do at least 2 years or so of bedside care before transitioning into one of those alternative paths. Nursing has so many avenues which is what I love about the profession. You're never stuck at the bedside your whole career.
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Education has been streamed to online training for quite some time. I’m not sure why we are held to a double standard
Growing up I was inclined to have a negative view towards NPs because I felt they weren’t as educated or experienced as MDs Physicians. But in reality I was the ignorant one. I didn’t know and understand their scope of practice and their education.
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I believe your school program matters. Our school provided us hands on simulations before introducing us to the clinicals. Most of our core courses were in person. I am working in an underserved area and our patients appreciate the services we provide.
Your narrative is robust and engaging; similar to a book that was robust and engaging in its delivery. "Your Body Your Temple" by Sophia Wintergreen
You’ll learn on the job. MDs do this as well. I myself try not to care too much about outside perspective looking in. I do me.
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I was an NP for 20 yrs. I enjoyed about 20% of it, hated 80% so I quit & let my license lapse. I was generally treated with respect so my experience was different than this. What I couldn't stand was being worked to death & crazy demanding patients
Thanks for watching! Crazy demanding pt are still a thing.
@@fromcnatonp I could tell endless terrifying stories about impossible schedules & crazy demanding patients. The NP job was literally killing me, hypertension despite being a fit runner. Life is too short for such demonic misery
Thank you so much for the great video. Once I saw an MD laughing about how his wife became an FNP by studying online and mostly writing great papers with very little amount of clinical training. NP schools should teach more about diagnosing and treating patients rather than requiring students mostly write papers.
Because writing papers don’t help patient care, it’s a waste of time
Really?! Are you a Registered Nurse or any form of a Nurse? There is a Physician Assistant Program online via Yale University. Each student is unique; therefore, so is the learning. Moreover, unless you've completed any portion of a Nursing Program then you should refrain from speaking in the topic
I never said if you go online you are less competent I have never laughed or degrade a NP who goes online! I stated that I get questions about this so much and in a negative manner I never said I agreed with this! I will always stand by saying what I disagree with is fast tract programs via online or brick and mortar
Totally agree!!! I’ve rarely had any assignments diagnosing and treating patients... mostly writing papers and irrelevant discussion board questions. Now it’s time for my clinicals and I feel so lost. Wishing the program would give us the meat & potatoes of it all. Tips to diagnose, what labs to take, what medications to prescribe, the best interventions for the diagnosis... that’s what I paid to learn but no we are just writing papers... and unfortunately the instructors are getting older and they will be our patients very soon. I guess I’ll just hang an APA format research report on the IV pole because that all their teaching me at this point... I’m on my own. 😐
Aren’t you supposed to know all that when becoming an RN? Aren’t NP supposed to learn in their curriculum more about administrative roles and more research? I thought that’s why RN’s are required to do clinical math and so more hands on than MD’s. Idk that’s my perception.
@@C3yl0 EXACTLY! The problem to me appears to be Registered Nurses without a solid Clinical background as a "Nurse" are going back to NP School. This is extremely irritating to me because said group of Nurses/NPs are making the rest look incompetent. Moreover, where is the self accountability? At what point, do you take a self inventory and obtain the knowledge and/or Clinical skills needed to effectively perform the role.
Everything I’m doing right now doesn’t feel right . I am a RN in the ICU and plastic surgery and am in school for FNP at a state university , and I am already having imposter syndrome. I feel like I don’t know enough so how can I take the place of a doctor ? Patients don’t like NPs or PAs, and it’s disheartening. I really just want to go to med school but I’ve already spent so much money and going bankrupt and I’m 29 so I really don’t know anymore . I feel like we are not respected and low balled . But being a RN is like poverty at this point . I really hope I get out of this and find a better way to advance my career and financial situation because this isn’t it.