The Story of Dragon Ball AF

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  • Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
  • With Dragon Ball GT coming to an end in 1997, a void was open for more. On Dragon Ball In Depth 44, we discuss the ENTIRE HISTORY OF DRAGON BALL AF. What is Dragon Ball AF's connection to Dragon Ball Super? What is Toyotaro and YoungJiJi's connection?
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  • @Geekdom101
    @Geekdom101  6 лет назад +2958

    Would you like me to eventually do a STORY ANALYSIS on the AF Fan Manga?

  • @UltimateSuperX
    @UltimateSuperX 5 лет назад +2488

    Someone made a Dragon Ball fan manga gets hired. Someone made a Sonic fan game gets hired. Someone made a Nintendo fan game gets sued.

    • @mohammadmehmood3092
      @mohammadmehmood3092 5 лет назад +188

      No wonder why sonic/DB have so much in common.

    • @TheReviewerBoy01
      @TheReviewerBoy01 5 лет назад +24

      They've never sued anyone dumbass. Cease and desist yeah but never a lawsuit

    • @zenixkiryu
      @zenixkiryu 5 лет назад +162

      @@TheReviewerBoy01 they literally sued an Arizona couple for 12 mil. $ and they got backlash for it because that's overkill af

    • @cuauhtemocgonzales2530
      @cuauhtemocgonzales2530 4 года назад +37

      @@zenixkiryu Actually they never had licence to run a rom site for Nintendo games. But Nintendo did overdue it. They could of approach them about it, to take down the site, of their licence property games. Yet they never warned them. It was a fat lawsuit without warning. Yes that is very fucked up that Nintendo did that. Yeah you'll get fans that overly dick ride Nintendo. I am a Nintendo fan, but I didn't agree what they did to the couple.

    • @QuantemDeconstructor
      @QuantemDeconstructor 4 года назад +4

      AM2R is a sad story dude

  • @DomDomPop
    @DomDomPop 5 лет назад +296

    Omg I remember SSJ5 Goku going around when I was a kid and we all flipped out lol

    • @sir3127
      @sir3127 3 года назад +8

      Heck yeah, even tho I was only around 7 y/o I remember my uncle teaching me about anime, specially DBZ and I remember seeing Goku SSJ 5 and thinking it was real, but that it was from a secret story after GT that only some people knew about, but I really wanted to see that "anime" or "cartoon" of DB but never found anything, until later on with years past I realized it was pure fan art :(

    • @ronaldo-cp1fo
      @ronaldo-cp1fo 2 года назад +1

      I remember that aswell my childhood

    • @SHAAAaaaOLiiiiN
      @SHAAAaaaOLiiiiN 2 года назад +1

      Agree :) hype was real

    • @Yasinnguyen
      @Yasinnguyen 4 месяца назад

      Yesss I will look up hours of different pictures of yahoo. I printed them out. I have that picture

  • @KaizenMethod12
    @KaizenMethod12 6 лет назад +915

    I remember years ago when they announced Dragonball Evolution and I thought it was hoax. It really should have been ..

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  6 лет назад +121

      RIGHT!!

    • @penisnt
      @penisnt 6 лет назад +20

      SoulSilver12 at least we got Battle Of Gods from it

    • @jazzmania12
      @jazzmania12 6 лет назад +27

      as bad as that movie was,and it was REALLY REALLY AWFUL!! LOL i,m still glad it came out because in my opinion ,that was the genesis of what would become Battle of Gods ,Ressurection F AND Dragonball Super,I feel like this motivated Akiri to bring it back because he didn,t want the World to think that was His actual creation or anything close to it,so ty Evolutions for that,,lol

    • @rubenoosterhof5209
      @rubenoosterhof5209 6 лет назад +15

      Yup.. as horrible as it was, it was 1 of the reasons that we got super. Its nice that getting mad/being totaly disappointed, can be such a good motivator.

    • @jazzmania12
      @jazzmania12 6 лет назад

      totally agree, i think it was a little more then Anger,,how bout RAGE!! SHOCK and HORROR,,,LMAO

  • @Lightscribe225
    @Lightscribe225 4 года назад +126

    Not gonna lie, when this popped up, my brain translated that as 'Dragon Ball As Fuck'

    • @jasonlieberman4606
      @jasonlieberman4606 3 года назад +1

      Yup.

    • @sherrimoody4089
      @sherrimoody4089 3 года назад +2

      That is what popped up in my brain!😂

    • @leonard1871
      @leonard1871 3 года назад +1

      LMAO , @ⰎⰋⰕⰜⰑⰓⰡⰁ225 , you killed me , i am legit laughing my ass off right now !!

    • @ElMalito187
      @ElMalito187 17 часов назад +1

      Dragon Ball As Fucking good as it gets 👌
      Cheers 🍻

  • @QGamer-yo2eu
    @QGamer-yo2eu 6 лет назад +219

    That honestly must've been an amazing feeling, just being an artist who loved Dragon Ball and was so good, that the CREATOR OF DRAGON BALL lets you be his right hand man. This just proves that literally ANYTHING is possible.

    • @0vern9K
      @0vern9K Год назад +1

      Yea but toyotaro went on to make super which is garbage. And ruins Aot of the series lord, characters and more. Ig that’s what happnes when you hire ppl that make fan fiction

    • @Tangerator
      @Tangerator 11 месяцев назад +1

      Nothing wrong with being optimistic but not every company would do this. He put himself at risk by doing this. He's lucky they brought him aboard and didn't send him a C&D.
      Dude does thing with anything Nintendo or a lot of other Japanese companies you'll get sued.

    • @zigmantasbajoras
      @zigmantasbajoras 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@0vern9K Why is it garbage? To me, at worst, it's just mid but not garbage.

    • @jafsjafs8820
      @jafsjafs8820 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@0vern9Kcry and cope more kiddo. dbs is great coz it was created by the chosen successor of the original author.

    • @jafsjafs8820
      @jafsjafs8820 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@zigmantasbajoraswrong kiddo. it is not mid. it is one of the best.

  • @VennieVin
    @VennieVin 6 лет назад +553

    It just goes to show that expressing creativity in any industry is something that should be encouraged.

    • @TehComs
      @TehComs 6 лет назад +3

      Preach

    • @BruvahSulaiman
      @BruvahSulaiman 5 лет назад +1

      Try telling that to RUclips these days.

  • @mugendbzgts7150
    @mugendbzgts7150 6 лет назад +430

    I remember back in 2001 I have a print picture of Ssj5 goku front of my binder it look so epic

    • @vegeta9585
      @vegeta9585 6 лет назад +3

      MugenDBZGTS ssj5 is not real

    • @mugendbzgts7150
      @mugendbzgts7150 6 лет назад +23

      what are you talking about

    • @vegeta9585
      @vegeta9585 6 лет назад +2

      MugenDBZGTS ssj 5 is not real

    • @justjohn312
      @justjohn312 5 лет назад +32

      @@vegeta9585 and so... I had a bunch of fan made things from shows like Dragon Ball, and I didn't give a shit if it wasn't real in the series or not.

    • @vegeta9585
      @vegeta9585 5 лет назад

      B0ssman312 Kakarot 🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿🖕🏿 is stronger than any form

  • @RobertoBlake
    @RobertoBlake 6 лет назад +106

    Just shows what can happen if build something with your passion!

  • @RageBoxMan
    @RageBoxMan 6 лет назад +597

    "They had a God form for Goku before Toriyama even thought of it." And it looks 1000 times cooler than Super Saiyan blue! Lmao

    • @vovabars1234
      @vovabars1234 6 лет назад +55

      No it's too crazy-looking

    • @lionelleblanc
      @lionelleblanc 6 лет назад +65

      @@vovabars1234 the outfit looks kinda goofy but the hair looks badass as hell

    • @vovabars1234
      @vovabars1234 6 лет назад +2

      @@lionelleblanc agreed

    • @HappyBeezerStudios
      @HappyBeezerStudios 5 лет назад +24

      And then there is a webcomig starting in 2008 that had the concept of a multiverse fighting tournament.

    • @jtmthegamer2104
      @jtmthegamer2104 5 лет назад

      True af

  • @nightofday3042
    @nightofday3042 6 лет назад +770

    Who else thought dragon ball af was real back then

    • @desconocidolastest6054
      @desconocidolastest6054 6 лет назад +26

      Ultra INSTINCT me haha

    • @kevinwesley6803
      @kevinwesley6803 6 лет назад +2

      Never me

    • @lentrozenol1037
      @lentrozenol1037 6 лет назад +19

      Gogeta UI I only HALF believed it was true. Is that weird?

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 6 лет назад +21

      Lentro Zenol yeah. I kinda half knew it was fake but I didnt care cuz it looked so awesome lol

    • @1014p
      @1014p 6 лет назад +1

      Gogeta UI there were several episodes and openly claimed fan story.

  • @DBZMacky
    @DBZMacky 6 лет назад +1631

    DBAF = *Dragon Ball: All Fake*

    • @JustAFox47
      @JustAFox47 6 лет назад +182

      DBZ Macky Dragon Ball: April Fools

    • @bradcha5413
      @bradcha5413 6 лет назад +3

      DBZ Macky lol XD

    • @connoisseuroftigolbitts
      @connoisseuroftigolbitts 6 лет назад +46

      Actually it’s not
      DBAF (alternative future)
      While in Japan
      Toyotaro who is also part of Dragon Ball Super now created a story that takes place after GT and people renamed it DBAF to give us a closure after GT when goku left with sheron to the dragon realms
      ITS PRETTY DOPE AND YOULL SEE WHERE THEY GOT THERE dragon ball super concept from
      Toyotaros manga is on RUclips somewhere
      That’s cool that you gave this some clout man

    • @Jose-se9pu
      @Jose-se9pu 6 лет назад +17

      After Future, and the Toyotaro doujin is actually pretty good, to the point Super actually copied a lot of things from it.

    • @tayonius
      @tayonius 6 лет назад +15

      Or ALL FUCKED

  • @KosuSama
    @KosuSama 6 лет назад +79

    Toyotaro achieved a Dragon Ball fan’s dream. This was extremely interesting to learn about and oddly heart warming. Thanks for sharing this to us man!

  • @natekyngcole
    @natekyngcole 6 лет назад +419

    I was literally wondering what happened to AF. I heard about it from RUclips in like 2011 and was wondering when it would come out for years

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 6 лет назад +23

      Nathaniel Stewart maaan 2011 is late, I had forgot all about it by then. Picture me trawling random forums back in like 2006 barely even able to find a single actual page of AF lol

    • @Romeowilson2323
      @Romeowilson2323 6 лет назад +8

      Man i first heard about af in 03 i think lol i feel old

    • @alienalibi2382
      @alienalibi2382 6 лет назад +2

      same I heard about this from the early 2000s lmaoooo

    • @carterallison9277
      @carterallison9277 5 лет назад

      Leo Velli lmao dude I used to rake through forums back in 03 for any information on this possible it was ridiculous

    • @johnnyman37
      @johnnyman37 5 лет назад +3

      Why did this suddenly become a cock measuring contest about who knew first

  • @Section8dc
    @Section8dc 6 лет назад +30

    I remember my friend showing me Dragon ball af stuff when I was a kid, I was blown away, this was when computers were JUST starting to be in people's house holds regularly. I remember being so amazed at the time lol, so crazy to see you talking about it now.

  • @comixproviderftw_02
    @comixproviderftw_02 6 лет назад +187

    Dragonball AF, that's a name I haven't heard in years. I remember my older cousins told me that Dragonball AF was real and was gonna happen back in the mid to late 00's when I was younger, right after GT ended. We would look up fan art of SSJ5 thinking it was real.

  • @jezreelphil8437
    @jezreelphil8437 6 лет назад +449

    Would've been funnier if it was called DRAGON BALL BS

  • @jimmyflame8931
    @jimmyflame8931 6 лет назад +287

    If you haven't yet, look for the Dragon Ball Multiverse fan comic online. It's done by a bunch of different artists, and from what I remember, it's basically another tournament. But, it's done in a "what if" kind of scenario, where different universes were created from the different events that happened throughout DB-DBZ. In one universe, Goku never met Grandpa Gohan, and Krillin, Yamcha (who was an android in this universe), and Tien were the heroes. In another Majin Buu absorbed everyone. And in another, Nail fused with every Namekian ever and literally became the last one. Each universe has it's own side story, and it's really good the way it's presented. Give it a read when you can.

    • @MrZangetsu468
      @MrZangetsu468 5 лет назад +16

      Vegetto is permanently fused, the way Dbz intended and the manga is better than Super’s ToP imho.

    • @danielramsey6141
      @danielramsey6141 4 года назад +12

      @@MrZangetsu468
      What do you mean "the Way DBZ intended!?". The fuck does that mean!? DBZ doesn't intend anything considering how Ambiguous Toriyama is with his work!

    • @pankeyhank2852
      @pankeyhank2852 3 года назад +2

      @@danielramsey6141 they were under the impression that they were to stay fused, if you'll remember.

    • @teamonion9695
      @teamonion9695 2 года назад

      The best fan manga I've seen, by far

    • @teal_m_101
      @teal_m_101 2 года назад

      Imagine Super Kami Guru in Nail's mind shouting 'Nail' at him for all eternity.

  • @Antpaok
    @Antpaok 6 лет назад +210

    Am I the only one who thought it was *Dragon Ball: AS FUCK*

    • @j.t.7786
      @j.t.7786 6 лет назад +3

      Antpaok
      Nope

    • @lucasargandona4658
      @lucasargandona4658 6 лет назад +1

      Yup

    • @Depressing_joe
      @Depressing_joe 6 лет назад

      no

    • @MagsPM
      @MagsPM 6 лет назад +1

      Antpaok I never thought that but it occurred to me that it could be read like that once, and I haven’t been unable to unsee it since

    • @ryumajin7568
      @ryumajin7568 6 лет назад

      No

  • @attackofthecopyrightbots
    @attackofthecopyrightbots 6 месяцев назад +2

    i honestly feel like we wouldnt have all of these many db fan animations/comics without this af.
    even legend

  • @Daniele-et5ks
    @Daniele-et5ks 5 лет назад +20

    In my country, when there were rumors of Dragon Ball Af, people were still watching Dragon Ball Z. We were been told by older kids about the existence of two new series: Dragon Ball Gt and Dragon Ball Af. Nobody HAD internet back then (yeah, it already existed), so nobody could check. Eventually, Dragon Ball Z finished and the same Tv network aired Dragon Ball Gt the following day. This confirmed the rumor, so everyone assumed that Dragon Ball Af was going to be aired after Gt.
    In other words, everyone in my city thought Dragon Ball Af was real.

  • @cryptosapien8420
    @cryptosapien8420 6 лет назад +64

    I remember the first time i saw the Super Saiyan 5 image. I was in an Eckerd(now known as Rite Aide so you know it was way back) pharmacy store. I picked up the magazine because i saw it had something about this dragonball af which i never heard about. I was amazed when i saw the picture. So amazed I ripped the page out of the magazine lol. I thought i had the most rarest and hidden dragonball knowledge. I told every one about it but no body believed me because i lost the image some how. This was back before alot of us even had computers so i couldn't show no one proof. Lol

    • @hdofu
      @hdofu 6 лет назад

      funny every place I saw it back in the day listed it as super sayian level 6.

  • @ninjarai001
    @ninjarai001 6 лет назад +9

    Man I've watched hundreds upon hundreds of your videos, yet this one inspired me. I'm an artist working on my own manga, I've followed Toriyama my entire life. My art has gotten to a point where I have my own style but I can mimic almost anything I see. I didn't think learning to draw other people's characters would matter but damn. I'm truly inspired. Thank you man.

  • @FLEX0NTV
    @FLEX0NTV 6 лет назад +9

    Wow! So dude been such a fan for years just been in an attic somewhere creating his own content the last 15 years and got his chance to work with the originator of the series? And helped prolong the franchise with newer storylines, newer villains, and newer powers?! Hats off to that guy and THANK YOOOOU! My soul has a spark of jubilence because of his consistency and persistence.

    • @HEYHAZE29
      @HEYHAZE29 4 года назад

      Hell yea! Inspiring

  • @pokebag
    @pokebag Год назад +7

    I know this video is really old and I’m not sure if you’ll see this. But Tablos has a reputation in the Hispanic DB Community for being extremely toxic, raging out to anyone criticizing his work; reason being that he believes Toyotaro isn’t good enough to be working with Toriyama and that HE should’ve been the one hired for the DBS Manga(despite the fact he doesn’t speak a word of Japanese)
    He’s also known for using very edgy designs and storylines in his works, saying that Toyotaro doesn’t understand the “essence” of Dragon Ball(Such “essence” being extreme gore with blood and organs flying around)
    He’s been ridiculed by the Hispanic DB Community for his controversial takes and isn’t really taken seriously
    Crazy to see the parallels between the two “creators” of Dragon Ball AF, one flying onto stardom under Toriyama’s watch and the other being ridiculed by the community

    • @jamescadet4450
      @jamescadet4450 Год назад +1

      Seeing this now, what your saying about Tablos here is basically flying over Twitter

    • @pokebag
      @pokebag Год назад +3

      @@jamescadet4450 it’s been common knowledge in the Hispanic DB Community for a few years now, seems like the English-Speaking community is barely learning about this though

    • @alien_824
      @alien_824 6 месяцев назад +1

      E S E N C I A

  • @spiderzero2099
    @spiderzero2099 6 лет назад +237

    When the Dragon Ball In Depth on Gohan Blanco?

    • @FentyMixx
      @FentyMixx 6 лет назад +16

      Spider-Zero we need Gohan Calvo

    • @blackphoenix77
      @blackphoenix77 6 лет назад +2

      Rainbow Goku 🌈

    • @Gaming2463
      @Gaming2463 6 лет назад +10

      I want to know when El Hermano will show up to fight Gohan Blanco as he is the only one who can fight him

    • @zaneyates5704
      @zaneyates5704 6 лет назад +8

      Christian Martinez El Grande Padre vs Gohan Blanco

  • @CannibalCowboy51
    @CannibalCowboy51 6 лет назад +10

    Great video geekdom! As someone who grew up with Dragon Ball around the late 90s, I appreciate you setting the record straight on all the facts. Keep them coming!

  • @Geekdom101
    @Geekdom101  6 лет назад +536

    Expect more content like this when Super ends - GOING BACK and telling the UNKNOWN HISTORICAL TALES of Dragon Ball!

    • @Heelturnkayfabe
      @Heelturnkayfabe 6 лет назад +2

      Man this was really cool to learn about TOYBLE . Shows you where real talent can get you 👍
      And ya keep an coming Geekdom !

    • @FalloutGuy999
      @FalloutGuy999 6 лет назад +2

      Geekdom101 I feel you should change the title of the video to “The History Of Dragonball Af” instead of the story, it sounds like you’re going over the plot

    • @axiss7437
      @axiss7437 6 лет назад

      thats crazy...I had no idea thanks for the great video!

    • @timref9949
      @timref9949 6 лет назад

      I honestly have to say, great great video bro. I was one of those who gravitated towards it when it was spreading online.
      Although the storyline was actually good ✌🏼🖖🍻🍻🍻🍻.

    • @abdulf7437
      @abdulf7437 6 лет назад +1

      Geekdom101 I saw ur face u wear glasses don't u

  • @kadinimdad
    @kadinimdad 6 лет назад +101

    If it is true that Goku's Ultra Instinct final form is him with silver hair, do you think it would be inspired by Toblos' "super saiyan 5" art?

    • @Gogetossj50
      @Gogetossj50 6 лет назад +13

      Maybe. Though it's more likely super sayian 5 inspired the super sayian blue form ( usually people made super sayian 5 gogetta with bright blue hair).

    • @anitatodd249
      @anitatodd249 6 лет назад

      kadin imdad --1

    • @DARS_04
      @DARS_04 5 лет назад +4

      Nope its based of Gohan Blanco. Latin American EdgeLord Gohan.

    • @pikafanfan9405
      @pikafanfan9405 5 лет назад +2

      I mean there's only so many hair colors you can give gokus forms so it was probably the one that fit best

  • @Lyserg1260
    @Lyserg1260 6 лет назад +96

    Now we can blame GT for Super's existence
    Without GT, there would be no AF
    Without AF, there would be no Toyotaro, DBS manga and many things in DBS anime.

    • @theafr0842
      @theafr0842 5 лет назад +21

      _i like gt :(_

    • @ItsQbiKS
      @ItsQbiKS 5 лет назад +11

      i like Super :c

    • @johndan1760
      @johndan1760 5 лет назад +6

      God dammit gt you were suppose stop super not create it

    • @chuviis3508
      @chuviis3508 4 года назад +2

      @MR. MISTER So you're telling me that ssj 20000 looks better?

    • @vortex900enterprise4
      @vortex900enterprise4 2 года назад

      @@johndan1760 Don't disrespect the title of God.

  • @jirayen9440
    @jirayen9440 6 лет назад +71

    That japanese girl at the beginning talks too loud , you should hire another one haha.

    • @OmegaMagnus11DA
      @OmegaMagnus11DA 6 лет назад +12

      Just needs lower volume, can blow your ears out lol

  • @kenobi639
    @kenobi639 6 лет назад +12

    What a baller story. Love the emphatic delivery; I was on your every word by the end. Kudos, mate. This is great stuff. Keep 'em coming

  • @SpartanChief2277
    @SpartanChief2277 Год назад +4

    DBAF has many sagas:
    Xicor saga
    Kaarat saga
    Evil Goku Saga
    ova of SSJ5 Broly
    Angel Z saga
    Empty World saga
    Amason saga
    The 5 Levels of Hell Saga
    Xicor in Hell
    The Prohibited Power (SSJ10) Saga
    if goku gets erased from existence then it ends there, if not then:
    Demiyari Saga
    Tengu the demon saga
    The Infinite Saga
    The Takama Beast saga
    in another continuity, there is the Ize saga right after GT
    most of the information and fanifics however is in spanish or even portuguese, there is a video that reads it loquendo and is about 11 hours long

    • @darkhero792
      @darkhero792 9 месяцев назад

      what about zeel can you tell more about him

  • @kyleat126
    @kyleat126 6 лет назад +61

    Xicor remains to be one of the most badass villains in the DB extended universe of non-canon.

  • @natekyngcole
    @natekyngcole 6 лет назад +121

    I love the dragon ball AF concept art and fan art.

  • @thatonedude2159
    @thatonedude2159 6 лет назад +117

    Only long time DB fans would know what this is.

    • @NovaBugDrayosix
      @NovaBugDrayosix 6 лет назад +11

      find it suprising he didn't mention xicor once

    • @thatonedude2159
      @thatonedude2159 6 лет назад +1

      bugboy1014 same

    • @thatonedude2159
      @thatonedude2159 6 лет назад +9

      4 The ones that became db fans not knowing about its old history.

    • @thepope2412
      @thepope2412 6 лет назад

      I always assumed af meaned advanced fighters

    • @ikervega0116
      @ikervega0116 6 лет назад

      Still VENUS hell yeah

  • @roban2799
    @roban2799 6 лет назад +129

    It's amazing how fans ressurected Dragon Ball and how Xicor almost now is cannon through Black Goku

    • @matheusrubimdepaoli5409
      @matheusrubimdepaoli5409 6 лет назад +7

      Since there are so many fan mangas, I would find awesome if they made a fan manga like multiverse with dbs, af. This would be awesome, imagine black vs xicor, super goku and vegeta meeting their other conterparts and telling them about the gods and god ki, zamasu meeting the north kaioshin which in af survived and is evil

    • @matheusrubimdepaoli5409
      @matheusrubimdepaoli5409 6 лет назад +18

      Except that the characters goals and motivations, designs and stories overall are completely different, the only fucking similarity is the kaioshin and "goku clone"

    • @matheusrubimdepaoli5409
      @matheusrubimdepaoli5409 6 лет назад +2

      I'm not arguing this, I mean even though black was inspired by xicor the two are different in all other ways

    • @matheusrubimdepaoli5409
      @matheusrubimdepaoli5409 6 лет назад +1

      Lloyd Irving I meant in the way that the same characters from "different realities" could find each other but I don't want it to be a tournament like multiverse, it's like you said, I want more of a heroes type of thing

    • @roban2799
      @roban2799 6 лет назад +2

      NocturneArchunterKellianth I doubt that since there is the whole Kaioshin part involved

  • @Almight93
    @Almight93 6 лет назад +37

    Damn Man
    This Guy Is Legend
    Kinda Proves Ur Love For An Anime Gets You Hired To Work For & With Them

  • @James-Alai
    @James-Alai 5 лет назад +11

    WHO CAN FORGET AF. THE SUPER SAIYAN 5 PICTURE =P. It was so different in the early 2000's...people find it hard to understand. The internet was not as centralized as it was today and rumors were very hard to verify....especially if it came from a different country! Finding (and downloading) full DB/Z/GT episodes took such a long time...you had to scour the depths, and finding an accurate sub was like finding a diamond in the rough. The internet was a mysterious place full of wonders lmao...really!

  • @a.maricely
    @a.maricely 6 лет назад +190

    I'm pissed off that they never finished the manga of Xicor

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision 6 лет назад +21

      Bugga D ohhh yeah, Xicor! Thats the guy wit the horns right? Damn, flashback. I remember searching so long to barely find the beginning of the AF manga like 10 yrs ago lol

  • @davidgee4048
    @davidgee4048 6 лет назад +6

    Just wanted to say, I've watched tons of your videos and this was one of my favorites. Thanks Geekdom, keep them coming please!

  • @ninathompson-king837
    @ninathompson-king837 6 лет назад +33

    I have all Toyble's AF books. It's actually a really interesting story and I would love to see it adapted in some way. The 100 year gap timeline at the end of GT would be awesome to explore. SSJ4 Gohan is already making appearances in games like Heroes and Extreme Butoden, so why not? SSJ4 Gohan would be *amazing*

    • @NinjaMaxMC
      @NinjaMaxMC 2 года назад

      4 years later and we have final gohan

    • @kamikoto1558
      @kamikoto1558 2 года назад +1

      Yeah the manga rn could use some of the af ideas

  • @djinsanity3575
    @djinsanity3575 6 лет назад +19

    Just goes to show that enough love towards something can lead to greatness

  • @GeekMuscle
    @GeekMuscle 6 месяцев назад +2

    and now in 2024, toyotaro has been passed on the torch. RIP Toriyama

  • @mewgetaisaweswome3949
    @mewgetaisaweswome3949 6 лет назад +15

    I've actually been reading Young Jijii's version recently. It's great!

  • @DenizenoftheAges
    @DenizenoftheAges 6 лет назад +147

    Buckle up kids: History lesson

  • @bunyamin360
    @bunyamin360 6 лет назад +61

    Ahh Dragon ball AF was around the time internet was new here. So I heard rumours of classmates saying there was super saiyen 5 in a new series called Dragon ball AF. The internet made the hype even bigger with all these secret images

    • @mrbridges32
      @mrbridges32 6 лет назад +2

      i still remember some kids would sell color prints. I had one on my binder.

  • @ryangreen6224
    @ryangreen6224 6 лет назад +89

    Amazing video! Glad we’ve got you for when Super ends brah!

  • @forlifeforlife4957
    @forlifeforlife4957 6 лет назад +182

    I used to read all of the af story’s back in the day 😂

    • @Tekkenandgaming
      @Tekkenandgaming 6 лет назад

      forlife forlife were they any good?

    • @calamorta
      @calamorta 5 лет назад +6

      +The two kittens Entertainment inc
      ExperGamez (idk if thats his username) covers some stories every now and then and they're kinda solid, better than some stuff we see in DBS or saw in GT

  • @Juak05
    @Juak05 5 лет назад +14

    Poor Toblos should get some credit for this.

  • @Kosm1c_Toast
    @Kosm1c_Toast 6 лет назад +78

    When your driving to Pennsylvania for vacation and you see Geekdom has a new video😁

    • @ayylmao277
      @ayylmao277 6 лет назад

      Weird seeing someone with the same surname..

    • @lll_Number_One
      @lll_Number_One 6 лет назад

      Austin Markowski K

    • @Joshiesgotagun
      @Joshiesgotagun 6 лет назад +3

      Don't watch and drive, bro.

    • @mooneater7072
      @mooneater7072 6 лет назад +1

      Austin Markowski your going to Hershey park aren’t you? Or the Philadelphia zoo?

    • @Kosm1c_Toast
      @Kosm1c_Toast 6 лет назад

      Bacon in a sandwich neither the camal back resort

  • @ragingyuzu1891
    @ragingyuzu1891 10 месяцев назад +8

    General Tablos is now controlling your mind Geekdom.

    • @kirbyofthestarsfan
      @kirbyofthestarsfan 9 месяцев назад +3

      SEVEN WORDS:
      E-S-S-E-N-C-E

    • @guidoivanmendez2354
      @guidoivanmendez2354 2 месяца назад +1

      I was looking for these comments, my fellas.
      Come on, Vegeta, feel the essence!!!

    • @ragingyuzu1891
      @ragingyuzu1891 2 месяца назад +1

      @@guidoivanmendez2354 Vegeta: AAAAH! Kakarot, Tablos is controlling my mind. AAAAAAAH!!! IT'S TOO MUCH ESSENCEEEEE!

  • @k.agarwal545
    @k.agarwal545 6 лет назад +17

    super saiyan 5 looks badass......its the best looking form

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 6 лет назад

      I Feel As If There Should Be A Deadman Form Which Pays Homage To Undertaker's 1994 Look With The Purple Gloves

    • @GarciaXVLegend_04
      @GarciaXVLegend_04 6 лет назад +2

      I love the Form & Design so much I even bought a Figure of it which doesn't look bad at all. It's nicely colored, slightly detailed, & doesn't look off despite not being an actual series though.

    • @stizz1982
      @stizz1982 6 лет назад

      Kinshuk Agarwal all 5 is the look for ssj4 with ssj3 hair

    • @jamescadet4450
      @jamescadet4450 4 года назад

      STIZZ yeah but it takes more effort to design and draw

  • @loic7867
    @loic7867 4 года назад +9

    the spanish fan was just having some fun with fanart ideas and this whole thing happened lmao

  • @raspberrypi4970
    @raspberrypi4970 6 лет назад +82

    I remember Dragon Ball AF story 9yrs ago.
    It's was a good too.
    A powerful Goddess was looking for someone to bare a child with.
    She meet Goku and has a son that's Automatically born as a supersaiyan.
    She made love to him in goku's dreams.
    Goku becomes evil later on and Vegeta, Trunks and Gohan do a three way fusion to defeat God Goku.

    • @FLEX0NTV
      @FLEX0NTV 6 лет назад +5

      Hmm...Vetrunkhan? Gotrunketa? Trunketahan?

    • @TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat
      @TheRandomGuyTheFarNoGameCat 6 лет назад +2

      This is the story I remember.

    • @denisl2760
      @denisl2760 5 лет назад +13

      @@FLEX0NTV Vegohunks

    • @FLEX0NTV
      @FLEX0NTV 5 лет назад +1

      @@denisl2760 hmmm, nice...nice. I couldn't think of that one, but that's a tough ass name.

    • @BanditLeader
      @BanditLeader 5 лет назад +1

      Wasnt it about a kai who stole gokus dna and used it with her own to create her kai-saiyan hybrid child known as xicor?

  • @jezreelphil8437
    @jezreelphil8437 6 лет назад +5

    Super: hey can I copy your form?
    AF: yeah make sure you change a little bit so the viewers can't tell
    And that's how MUI became a thing

  • @InvaderofDarkness29
    @InvaderofDarkness29 6 лет назад +22

    That's really cool how things came to full circle.

  • @carlosalcazar1192
    @carlosalcazar1192 9 месяцев назад +4

    Oh my goodness, nowadays people hate the AF artist 😔

    • @truebluegames
      @truebluegames 9 месяцев назад

      Yeah

    • @kirbyofthestarsfan
      @kirbyofthestarsfan 9 месяцев назад

      To be fair, he was the one that threw the stones first at the fandom (you have no idea how bigoted he got)

    • @carlosalcazar1192
      @carlosalcazar1192 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@kirbyofthestarsfanReally? He did start it? 😔 what a shame, his artwork of Tablos is so legendary, it was so influential, it's crazy to hear he lost his damn mind

    • @xiuhcoatl4830
      @xiuhcoatl4830 5 месяцев назад

      7 palabras: E S E N C I A

  • @gangstarapbk966
    @gangstarapbk966 6 лет назад +35

    I want a dragon ball af tv series

    • @teanmace
      @teanmace 5 лет назад

      No

    • @jiten9843
      @jiten9843 5 лет назад +6

      I mean if they can make an anime for db heroes than why not af?

    • @Zero-hp1ds
      @Zero-hp1ds 4 года назад +1

      Jiten because that’s a literally just a promotional anime

  • @kieran8266
    @kieran8266 4 года назад +32

    I swear EVERY time it sounds like he's saying "Dragon Ball: In Death"

  • @NoahThomas29
    @NoahThomas29 4 года назад +6

    I love how SSJ5 looks like SSJ3 but with silver hair, looks so awesome!

  • @tacho9427
    @tacho9427 6 лет назад +260

    Been dying to see you cover Dragon Ball AF in a video man. Would you ever do a video explaining your thoughts on Goku absorbing the dragon balls at the very end of GT?

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  6 лет назад +33

      Watch my video on The Dragon Ball's Dragon.

    • @samueljackson3512
      @samueljackson3512 6 лет назад +1

      Geekdom101 yeah I can't find it either.

  • @OmegaSalamence
    @OmegaSalamence 6 лет назад +6

    Thank you for the work you do. I only just discovered your channel but I've subscribed and am very pleased with your work. We look forward to future releases!

  • @ElBribri
    @ElBribri 6 лет назад +5

    AMAZING VIDEO!!!!! it just shows how passion and a healthy fan community can bring up great proyects.

  • @benlwesso
    @benlwesso 6 лет назад +4

    Love these types of videos. Keep up the great work Geekdom!

  • @Blaggy578
    @Blaggy578 6 лет назад +14

    i remember when i was younger no one believed me that dragon ball af was noncannon and kids would yell at me if i said that it didnt help i knew a kid with a bootleg super saiyan 5 figure and the fact it looked like a real product

  • @EntonBlazing
    @EntonBlazing 6 лет назад +25

    They really should have kept using the Dragonball fighting and other sound tracks from z, its so nostalgic when I hear it

    • @MastaDivinity
      @MastaDivinity 6 лет назад +2

      EntonBlazing super's music is literally the best thing about it.

    • @EntonBlazing
      @EntonBlazing 6 лет назад

      Anon Anonsmith your kidding right? the beat thing aboit super is its story line and the fights, tf u mean

    • @subwaysurfer5378
      @subwaysurfer5378 4 года назад

      Yeah especially Frieza saga music

  • @METAsMETAs
    @METAsMETAs 6 лет назад +140

    I think young jiijii version of AF was way better

    • @rafikitheafricanpimp7173
      @rafikitheafricanpimp7173 6 лет назад +3

      Further Evolution jjjjijiijijiijjjiiiiijiiiiiiiiijjii

    • @Laekith
      @Laekith 6 лет назад +5

      It's pretty boring. Toyo's version has a really cool story

    • @bruhwereinacarexhaust
      @bruhwereinacarexhaust 6 лет назад +3

      His art style kinda sucks now, i get that its trying to imitate the old artstyle of dragon ball, but the way its developed looks weird now.

    • @scantilycladvlad6138
      @scantilycladvlad6138 6 лет назад

      I like his art better too

    • @rokaszubrickas9249
      @rokaszubrickas9249 6 лет назад

      Agree

  • @jromeo8075
    @jromeo8075 6 месяцев назад +2

    Back here after seeing Xicor by Toyotaro on Twitter

  • @matthinton19
    @matthinton19 2 года назад +1

    Seeing that artwork makes me feel like such a kid again. Nobody who saw sjj5 drawing didn’t want to see it

  • @ste1384
    @ste1384 6 лет назад +4

    Hope everyone had a great evening

  • @MysticGenius_
    @MysticGenius_ 6 лет назад +59

    Geekdom will have like 1M subscribers in about a year keep up the good work Geekdom I enjoy your videos I love it

    • @ashtonrawlings8211
      @ashtonrawlings8211 6 лет назад +4

      Hes actully not gaining subs very fast at all

    • @acardenasjr1340
      @acardenasjr1340 6 лет назад

      Lol, terrible prediction. This channel is about the Dragonball universe.
      The show is ending, mediocre reviews and no real traction, only the hard on fanboys keep that dream alive.
      Tough times, lol

  • @flight4951
    @flight4951 6 лет назад +4

    I appreciate you geekdom. Thank you for another very informative and interesting video.

  • @playwithsan9686
    @playwithsan9686 6 лет назад +1

    I always wondered about this. Thanks for the video. That grey goku has been in the back of my mind for almost 20 years

  • @aguscardini5233
    @aguscardini5233 6 лет назад +78

    The one who wrote the manga was toyotaro?

    • @chuviis3508
      @chuviis3508 5 лет назад +18

      Yeah, but the og who drew SSJ5 and AF was David in 1998

  • @BluDandelion
    @BluDandelion 6 лет назад +13

    Funny thing is about dragon ball I've always liked but when I found your channel geekdom I found a new appreciation for it now I love dragon ball as one of my fave series so thanks for the hard work keep it up

  • @xicor7952
    @xicor7952 6 лет назад +61

    Excellent video. I would know because I have watched the full 11 minute video before even 5 minutes upload time. Subarashii.

    • @x3jamesjamjam672
      @x3jamesjamjam672 6 лет назад

      Xicor Geekdom please make a video about dragonball multiverse and how it may have influenced dragonball super

    • @Whoohoonutty2020
      @Whoohoonutty2020 6 лет назад +1

      This video is Dragon Ball AF.

    • @futuregohan4837
      @futuregohan4837 6 лет назад

      Wait Xicor Aren't You From AF How The Eff Did You Stumble Upon RUclips

    • @xicor7952
      @xicor7952 6 лет назад +1

      Future Gohan I used the time ring ningen.

  • @hellbillyjr
    @hellbillyjr 6 лет назад +56

    this whole thing is crazy! I'm going to have to go back and look at some of Toyotaros AF work!

    • @hellbillyjr
      @hellbillyjr 6 лет назад +1

      Lloyd Irving Is that "Dragon Ball Zero?" I've seen that floating around but didn't know he did that. I'll be sure to check that out too. thanks

    • @imarealone_0076
      @imarealone_0076 6 лет назад

      Lloyd Irving it's pretty cool but it doesn't fit into the canon of DB

  • @pattsaurus-rex1610
    @pattsaurus-rex1610 3 месяца назад +1

    And now with Akira’s passing… we all agree Toyotaro is indeed the true successor.

  • @charlesphung7191
    @charlesphung7191 6 лет назад +1

    This video made me smile. I remember when I found the same picture by surfing the internet when I was a kid. I was curious to know if a SSJ5 form existed and that DB AF fan art got me so excited thinking it was legit haha. Awesome video!

  • @Naeem_El
    @Naeem_El 6 лет назад +8

    I can remember hearing some of this stuff growing up

  • @OrrinMW3lulz
    @OrrinMW3lulz 6 лет назад +18

    You know, Geekdom, as an artist myself, this video gave me a little hope for my future. Maybe I'll be my own Toriyama one day. I just have to help myself stop being depressed and impatient (oh look, I'm attention seeking lol) with the fact that I'm barely recognized by the world.

  • @supert1255
    @supert1255 6 лет назад +62

    So glad you broke this down, good job dude 👍

  • @Jonmt155
    @Jonmt155 6 лет назад +1

    You have no idea how much anticipation I've had for this video. Thank you.

  • @AQGOAT24
    @AQGOAT24 6 лет назад

    Dragon Ball AF really makes me nostalgic. Looking online in the early 2000s and everyone talking about the Super Saiyan 5

  • @BIMONLAKI
    @BIMONLAKI 6 лет назад +10

    Been waiting for this since you announced it!

  • @aytgh
    @aytgh 6 лет назад +75

    Super Saiyan 5 is my favorite fan transformation

  • @Bennime_Once
    @Bennime_Once 6 лет назад +17

    LMAO Im so disappointed RN. when you said that you were to make a video about: "The Story of Dragon Ball AF" i thought you will talk about THE STORY (script wise). I was so hyped for today :(

  • @I-absolveyouofyoursins
    @I-absolveyouofyoursins 5 месяцев назад +2

    And now he's the main person behind dragon ball.

  • @max_im_um
    @max_im_um 5 лет назад +1

    In France we had Dragon Ball back in 1991 and DBZ shortly after. In Italy it was the same. It's only in the Americas that it took off so late (late 90's - early 00's).

  • @flipedyproductions1931
    @flipedyproductions1931 6 лет назад +14

    Great video man, Thankyou for putting these videos out on the interweb😉

  • @coleintheville117
    @coleintheville117 6 лет назад +9

    Been waiting for this video

  • @xenodroid
    @xenodroid 6 лет назад +10

    THANK YOU. Finally an in depth exploration of DB AF on RUclips! Not trying to throw shade on Josh at Dragon Ball Nation, I have much love for him and his content, but his video was missing a lot of key details. He didn't even differentiate between Toyo and Young Jiji's versions of AF.

    • @Geekdom101
      @Geekdom101  6 лет назад +6

      I NEVER KNEW HE DID IT!

    • @xenodroid
      @xenodroid 6 лет назад +2

      Geekdom101
      Yeah, it was a face cam vid basically covering everything you talked about but much briefer and kind of talking about everything in one big collective, as if all of DB AF was created by the same person, even if that's not what he intended.

  • @KryptonianSaiyan
    @KryptonianSaiyan 6 лет назад +1

    I remember AF floating around the internet back in the day. I was still using dial up at the time and found the pictures for AF on those fan websites that had all pictures on one website.

  • @theorder7261
    @theorder7261 6 лет назад +1

    I first saw an episode of DB in 1994 when I was ten years old. I’ve been a fan of it ever since. I have the vhs cassette tapes in both English and Japanese. I’ll eventually buy it for dvd.

  • @androsthewarriorhighalpha
    @androsthewarriorhighalpha 6 лет назад +33

    My god.. I had no idea.. Dragon ball af was fan manga and fan art.. I thought it was canon but there must be a lot fan manga story of Dragon ball that we don't know about same with Dragon ball Absalon.. I wanna know more of Dragon ball AF and Dragon ball heroes..

  • @knightoflight8249
    @knightoflight8249 6 лет назад +10

    This has been a long time in the making...

  • @ravenhopkins347
    @ravenhopkins347 6 лет назад +40

    Big D, you always make amazing videos and shut down false claims. Thank you for spreading truth

  • @Dekomata
    @Dekomata Год назад

    i think what's amusing is even in his doujin of dragon ball AF, he gave gohan more to do while getting a new form (ssj4) and goten became an itteration of the great saiyaman. cut to years later in the super hero manga and movie, gohan is now doing something and gets a new transformation (beast) and goten is an itteration of the great saiyaman.

  • @Last_Orbit
    @Last_Orbit 6 лет назад

    Dayummm bro that Golden Geekdom holding the Dragonball looks absolutely badass bro. No joke. That is so cool looking.