Alaska's Rusting Rivers: The Alarming Impact of Permafrost Thaw on Arctic Rivers

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  • Опубликовано: 19 май 2024
  • In this video, researchers from University of California Davis, National Park Service, and USGS, reveal the startling discovery of over 75 streams and rivers in Alaska's Brooks Range turning orange due to metals released in permafrost thaw. We delve into the consequences of this phenomenon, its impact on aquatic ecosystems and local communities, and the ongoing research efforts to understand and mitigate these changes.
    For more information, read our story here: www.ucdavis.edu/climate/news/...
    Check out the detailed findings in the academic paper: www.nature.com/articles/s4324...

Комментарии • 428

  • @orionherman381
    @orionherman381 27 дней назад +61

    This is absolutely astounding. Production team did a hell of a job too!

    • @UCDavisCAES
      @UCDavisCAES  27 дней назад +10

      We gave the researchers media training and the footage they brought back was 😳

    • @kevinkatarzis6834
      @kevinkatarzis6834 25 дней назад

      Climate change funding is a gift. It helps not a single person except for the super rich. Go protest in China. In India. In south America. In Asia. Go be a climate activist there.

    • @kevinkatarzis6834
      @kevinkatarzis6834 25 дней назад

      ​@@UCDavisCAEShey why don't you give those people training on something useful. They did nothing except oxidation bad. No crap. That's basic chemistry. You talking to middle schoolers in that lab? 1.4 trillion wasted on basic scientists.... you get what you pay for.

    • @kevinkatarzis6834
      @kevinkatarzis6834 25 дней назад

      ​@@UCDavisCAES why not talk to real people that are working on solutions. The people building HHO generators. Solar and battery tech. Increasing power and efficiency and reducing emissions engineers and scientist. Not middle schooler "scientist".

    • @Patrick_Ross
      @Patrick_Ross 25 дней назад +3

      @@kevinkatarzis6834 - what an immature comment.😂

  • @misha4422
    @misha4422 25 дней назад +10

    Well, this is depressing. Alaska is my home.

    • @rickring1396
      @rickring1396 16 дней назад +1

      To remain depressed is a trap. Don’t get stuck like political prisoners. New paths for the next 10 thousand generations.

  • @dougsinthailand7176
    @dougsinthailand7176 26 дней назад +66

    Unforeseen consequences. This is probably just a sample of what is to come.

    • @tomstanley7568
      @tomstanley7568 25 дней назад +2

      it is and God will make it happen he is making it happen

    • @kevinkatarzis6834
      @kevinkatarzis6834 25 дней назад +3

      Hey can I have some climate so I can eat. So I can pay rent. Not work 70 hours a week to live like a pauper. It's great! I get to die at work! Thankyou climate activist in united states. 1.4 trillion and still the government won't get off the pot.

    • @kevinkatarzis6834
      @kevinkatarzis6834 25 дней назад

      Tell me why the rest of the world won't change to this climate activist? BECAUSE THEY ARE POOR. THE WORLD ISNT THE UNITED STATES. Idiots.

    • @kevinkatarzis6834
      @kevinkatarzis6834 25 дней назад

      People can't eat in the united states and we worried about rust? Gotta save that fish rather than other people right?

    • @MH-kj9hh
      @MH-kj9hh 25 дней назад +10

      @@tomstanley7568 Didn't God also give people the planet (plants and animals) to name and take care of? If nothing can go wrong then we wouldn't need to take care of them - ergo things must be able to go wrong, nessesitating God giving us the role of caretaker to the planet. So you can't say something going wrong is just God being God without asking if it might be due to us slacking on our God given duty to take care of the planet.
      Also, isn't the general theory here that God doesn't create evil, evil is a result of humans failings. Climate change will lead to millions upon millions of excess deaths over the next 500 years - that seems evil, so wouldn't if follow that means Climate change is a result of human failing and not God doing something?

  • @timothyortega5608
    @timothyortega5608 26 дней назад +21

    I see this is a red flag Tipping Point

    • @fredfolson5355
      @fredfolson5355 25 дней назад

      Most definitely.

    • @brandons4240
      @brandons4240 25 дней назад +7

      I would say the 1 km wide ocean water under the Doomsday Glacier (Thwaites) is as well. Or the recent years of record heat, droughts, storms, or that we are currently experiencing 10x the CO2 rise than at any point in the last 50,000 years. Red flags all over the place not hard to find now.

    • @timothyortega5608
      @timothyortega5608 25 дней назад +2

      @brandons4240 Yeah, I have been keeping an eye on the Doomsday Glacier as well. That's a very good point. I'm really concerned about the Beaufort gyre not releasing for many cycles. What's the consequences of the influx of this cold water going to do to exacerbate the weather and maybe cause a blue ocean event, possibly in the next year or two. I saw a report that scientists set up rain gauges in Greenland ice sheet and then were shocked to receive 10 inches of rain in a single rain event there. Yeah, we should be worried.🫠🙃

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 23 дня назад +2

      @@timothyortega5608 That 'sudden rain' phenom has been worrying me the last few years. The incidents seem to be getting more severe and more frequent. So much water that it overwhelms the capacity of local streams/rivers to deal with the drainage. There was one in particular from Leominster MA not too long ago (pronounced LEMM-inster) that took out mainline rail systems that had been in place for well over a century. Cities built near river junctions are at particular risk.

  • @volkerengels5298
    @volkerengels5298 25 дней назад +15

    I've seen a similar report from a glacier in Peru. Water is toxic now.

    • @offgridmangogrower
      @offgridmangogrower 11 дней назад

      Please comment further on any studies or water treatments….thx

  • @jacobgates1986
    @jacobgates1986 23 дня назад +5

    Ive seen orange rivers on the river that flows towards Ouray Colorado. A Sad sight to see.

  • @philgroves7694
    @philgroves7694 24 дня назад +4

    My first thought, upon seeing the discolored stream bed was, "Hmm ... looks like acid mine drainage, like from the coal mines in north central Tennessee." And there you go!

  • @Kingpoint
    @Kingpoint 13 дней назад +3

    Excellent video and science! We observed the same phenomena here in the Yukon.....a small drainage called Cache Creek, part of the McQuesten River watershed...once a healthy stream, it shifted rapidly over a few years to a natural ARD impacted drainage by the early 2000s. There was no history or active mining within the Cache Creek watershed. In 2011 we attempted to document the source of the ARD as well as the cause of this shift and, although we could only speculate at the time, it was thought that the loss of permafrost in the upper reaches of the creek was the trigger that caused the dramatic shift in water quality. This allowed subsurface mineralized deposits (frozen for thousands of years) to become more susceptible to oxidation and ARD generation. It continues today....

  • @patrickbethel855
    @patrickbethel855 27 дней назад +20

    Drainages in Southeast Alaska Are showing the same thing. In those cases it seems to be from bedrock exposed as glaciers retreat. In particular the drainages from John Peak on the Unuk River system.

    • @UCDavisCAES
      @UCDavisCAES  27 дней назад +10

      Thanks for sharing that observation! The retreat of glaciers definitely exposes new bedrock, which can lead to changes like what you're describing. Have there been any studies or observations made on the impacts this has on the local ecosystems there?

  • @mayanktripathi8726
    @mayanktripathi8726 25 дней назад +10

    ..this is very very alarming not only for Alaska..bur for ROTW... In india Himalayan glaciers are melting at such alarming rate that we may have monsoon as our only source of freshwater..and the monsoons too are shifting westwards.....

  • @cambiumtimberworks
    @cambiumtimberworks 25 дней назад +5

    If this is predominantly iron, it stands to reason that this would have the same effect as Ocean Pasture Seeding and create a potentially massive plankton bloom in the ocean. It will be interesting to see if this has a positive effect on the Ocean Fisheries.

    • @samlarkin8102
      @samlarkin8102 25 дней назад +2

      Agreed! Curious to see about this.

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 23 дня назад +1

      Also wondering what the effect, if any, will be on ocean current salinity. The density of the stream water will have been changed from the addition of these minerals. Possibly the water temperature too.

  • @timeenoughforart
    @timeenoughforart 24 дня назад +5

    I shared this movie on my facebook page and it didn't even show up in my wife's feed. No likes, no comments. (apparently no profit). We have hundreds of similar issues that go unrecognized. Take your kids camping. Let them sleep under the stars. Your grandkids might not have that choice.

    • @kimberlylorange3717
      @kimberlylorange3717 21 день назад +1

      The algorithm dosnt show my posts like this upon my friends feed either.. I find it odd as well.

    • @SD-vy7gj
      @SD-vy7gj 18 дней назад +1

      Realy? I find it achingly predictable.
      Welcome to the real world I guess.

  • @dougtheslug6435
    @dougtheslug6435 23 дня назад +2

    So sad, Eastern Ontario Canada here and my little creek at the back of my property flows down to a trickle mid summer now, trout are gone and no longer spawn up river anymore. I'm sure in a few years it will dry during mid summer months only to kill off the few remaining minnows and Invertebrates.

  • @mechez774
    @mechez774 23 дня назад +1

    So important for planetary science. The data gathered while doing the assessments will be really valuable for helping us to understand the processes occurring on all the other dead planets that we are probing.

  • @glenndavis4452
    @glenndavis4452 24 дня назад +6

    Does anyone notice that mammoths have been uncovered from under the “permafrost”? Animals that need tons of vegetation a day to survive ? The last interglacial was warmer than this one. So far.

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 23 дня назад +3

      Guessing we're seeing just the beginning of the major effects. The early effects started well before I was born, which is why I'm not breeding. My relatives have been spamming the environment with additional little consumers and they just don't want to hear it :(

    • @glenndavis4452
      @glenndavis4452 23 дня назад +2

      @@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      Did you just entirely miss the whole point of my post ? Thousands of years ago there was enough vegetation to support mammoths. Where “permafrost” is today. During the last interglacial period. We are at the peak, or close to, a cycle that has happened 5 times before. In recent geological history. Your siblings, and their children are probably not out eating mammoths.
      But, that’s your personal choice.

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 23 дня назад +4

      @@glenndavis4452 Thank you for missing the point of MY post. If you'd check the CO2 vs time concentration graph, us human types are moving it far out of the range of what was seen at the thermal maximum peaks of previous interglacials - meaning that what's coming next is potentially quite a bit more severe than what was previously seen.

    • @glenndavis4452
      @glenndavis4452 23 дня назад

      @@surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      Oh did I totally miss the unquestionable fact that 120 “extra” pp MILLION of atmospheric carbon adds REAL DEGREES to the MILES of air overhead ???
      But still remains TOTALLY USELESS in REAL LIFE to warm a pot on our stoves ???
      All it can do, in REAL LIFE, is melt CONTINENTAL SIZED BRICKS of ROCK SOLID ICE ???
      From the 1/6 to 1/8 of an average hair dryer worth of watts emanating from our backyard ??? If you go by IPCCC figures ?
      MILES OF AIR overhead ??
      Yeah, I TOTALLY missed that point.

    • @davidwilkins5932
      @davidwilkins5932 22 дня назад +5

      But now we have a densely populated, interconnected, and interdependent world that didn’t exist during previous times. There’s no comparing now to then, and it’s not like the looming climate crisis is the only existential crisis we have to deal with. Yet virtually no one, especially in the political or economic class, are going to take meaningful action. And a couple of weeks ago Trump had oil men at Mar-a-Lago, promising that he would reverse all the policies that aren’t “business friendly”. So, drink up, Shriners.

  • @kirkchapman80
    @kirkchapman80 23 дня назад +3

    Iron rich rivers lead to the ocean... leads to ocean alglae blooms the same as Haida iron seeding the ocean seeding years ago

    • @michaelinhouston9086
      @michaelinhouston9086 18 дней назад

      A few years back I saw a show with a scientist that claimed that a freighter full of iron dust dumped into the ocean would bring on a new ice age because of the resulting plankton blooms soaking up CO2. Not sure about that but interesting.

  • @stevenanderson7046
    @stevenanderson7046 22 дня назад +1

    Very nice production, keep it up!

  • @augustlindow1162
    @augustlindow1162 25 дней назад +25

    I’ve lived in south central Alaska my whole life and there’s always iron that feeds from small creeks and builds up in swamps. It’s always present especially in the spring months. Everybody on a well system has water softeners for their houses. There’s just lots of minerals in the ground and there’s still salmon in the creek I live on.

    • @ericjorgensen8028
      @ericjorgensen8028 25 дней назад +2

      This

    • @Hanks1938ELKnucklehead
      @Hanks1938ELKnucklehead 25 дней назад +9

      I'd gather that your creek did not look as bad as the fully opaque waters we saw in the video? Steelhead and Salmon do not do well with that much sediment.

    • @mray8519
      @mray8519 25 дней назад +4

      Hurrah for you. Some people are just plain stupid.

    • @universeslap
      @universeslap 25 дней назад +4

      I'm guessing you're climate-change denier, if this is all you had to say.

    • @Teeveepicksures
      @Teeveepicksures 25 дней назад +7

      Welp, guess that settles it. Someone call the research scientists and tell them augustlindow said "it's just iron, bro"

  • @Nathan-qt8xz
    @Nathan-qt8xz 25 дней назад +6

    Heavy machinery tore up alot of permafrost for Gold production.

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac 23 дня назад +4

      This is not about that. I wish it was that small

    • @geistacwm
      @geistacwm 22 дня назад +2

      I recall being disgusted by the gold mining shows. Greedy scumbags tearing up Gaia

    • @SD-vy7gj
      @SD-vy7gj 18 дней назад

      The devise your using uses gold to work.

    • @user-nv8nt6gm2d
      @user-nv8nt6gm2d 17 дней назад

      @@geistacwmme too!

    • @user-nv8nt6gm2d
      @user-nv8nt6gm2d 17 дней назад

      @@SD-vy7gjthat’s not my fault.

  • @davidpnewton
    @davidpnewton 26 дней назад +9

    This strongly suggests that similar processes must have taken place at the start of the Holocene when the continental ice sheets retreated and glacial permafrost melted. Wonder if anyone's done any studies to see how that might have affected ecosystems then?

    • @gavinlawhite8721
      @gavinlawhite8721 25 дней назад +8

      just remember that the rate of change back then was orders of magnitude slower, thus much lower metal concentrations, or else only a handful of streams effected at a time. Not a threat to the entire ecosystem.

    • @davidpnewton
      @davidpnewton 25 дней назад +5

      @@gavinlawhite8721 not necessarily true. The rate of warming was indeed slower than what we are seeing now. However a threshold being reached is still a threshold being reached.
      When permafrost south of the ice sheets in Europe and America melted there would have been considerably more of it melting than is melting now. I don't know how far south permafrost extended back then but it would certainly have been well into France for example.

    • @gavinlawhite8721
      @gavinlawhite8721 25 дней назад +2

      @@davidpnewton Yes the permafrost melt region would have covered a larger longitudinal range back then; but the melt band would have been much narrower in the North South direction. Thus any given local ecosystem would have experienced a much lower concentration of minerals entering their water supply. The boundary would then creep north, only releasing a small amount of new minerals every year.
      I don't know for certain, but I would Guess that these mineral runoffs can only last a handful of years (a handful could be 1 or 100, just probably not 10000) before everything that is water soluble has been carried away already.

    • @davidpnewton
      @davidpnewton 25 дней назад

      @@gavinlawhite8721 I agree that this will be a short-term problem. It's not like we are dealing with banded iron formations here!

  • @ianthomas7075
    @ianthomas7075 23 дня назад +2

    This has got to be happening in Siberia/Russia as well.

  • @frankmacleod2565
    @frankmacleod2565 25 дней назад +4

    The consequences and implications of this are mind blowing.

  • @sherylhindermann3755
    @sherylhindermann3755 25 дней назад +4

    Looks like a mining catastrophe happened

  • @nelia039
    @nelia039 6 дней назад +2

    The comment section is completely the opposite of what should be going on with this video. Yikes

  • @doubleslit9513
    @doubleslit9513 18 дней назад +1

    You see this in the Chesapeake Bay as well. As matter of fact, along the shore line one can pickup rust colored climbs of clay mixed with iron. I think the bay was formed by an iron rich meteor that struck 80 million years ago. But I’m working off a fading memory here.

  • @cratecruncher4974
    @cratecruncher4974 25 дней назад +6

    Nice quality video. Makes me wonder about all the invisible things leaching out in gaseous state.

  • @maneshipocrates2264
    @maneshipocrates2264 26 дней назад +8

    Is there anyway this study can be talked about more? Incredible.

    • @Silks-
      @Silks- 25 дней назад

      Talking about things doesn’t do anything; climate deniers will ignore it or say it’s natural and always been happening, corporations don’t care, governments are controlled by corporations. Same old.

    • @volkerengels5298
      @volkerengels5298 25 дней назад

      If you collect all the 'tiny' things we are struggling with - most ppl would end depressed.
      We are going through a mass-extinction event. Can't see 'any beauty' in this process.
      We have little **practically** to no control over climate change - think about what this means for species population decline - and finally extinction.
      E.g. - it's not only humans who suffer in hot wet bulbs (high temp+high humidity) - *but all mammals !!*
      Coral Reefs are at the brink of their tipping point - this year - or next El Nino. Sad...? Sure - and dangerous as well: 60% of fish are borne there.

    • @shihtzusrule9115
      @shihtzusrule9115 23 дня назад

      No, oil pays for campaigns and those politicians are going to bury it. Remember when for 20 years there was another discussion about how climate change wasn't real, which was a reversal from the previous 20 years. The window is almost shut and is for the best chance at mitigation - which will HAVE to be initiated by the average person - not corporations or governments. Most of the politician's hands are tied if they want to get re-elected where they "think" they can do the most good blah, blah blah, or just enjoy the position working for the rich and corporations. This is red water is one challenge the earth and people (I would mention nature but that can fall on deaf ears) are facing - what you can see, the worst are the man made chemicals you can't. Refuse anything that comes in plastic. You may have to sacrifice at first but companies want to make money, they'll drop it like a hot potato but it's up to us to make that happen.

    • @joehatch1602
      @joehatch1602 23 дня назад

      NO

  • @sidclark1953
    @sidclark1953 22 дня назад

    This development is a wonderful opportunity for study.

  • @michaeldeierhoi4096
    @michaeldeierhoi4096 25 дней назад +5

    This is important and vital work that you are doing and concerning as well. The working model that the thawing of the permafrost is causing heavy metals to leach out of the soil appears solid. It is the environment and the native peoples I am most concerned for in this circumstance.

  • @offgridmangogrower
    @offgridmangogrower 11 дней назад

    Are volunteers needed?
    Past exp usgs, water board. Industrial waste insp.
    This really caught my attention….very familiar with in place treatment systems for metals and package plants…

  • @jamespardue3055
    @jamespardue3055 25 дней назад

    THANK YOU!

  • @rexdenemo5235
    @rexdenemo5235 22 дня назад +1

    Hi Folks,
    Can the iron be mechanically mined, or electromagnetically filtered out, or consumed by bacteria to be mined out at the point of leaching out of the perma-frost?
    I saw a primitive expert collect iron from bacteria, and smelted enough to make a steel knife.
    Can the iron, lead, mercury be collected, and smelted out quick enough to save these springs and streams and rivers?

  • @matejovich
    @matejovich 22 дня назад +1

    Who are we to say this isnt nature just being nature?

  • @titussteenhuisen8864
    @titussteenhuisen8864 25 дней назад +2

    Some rivers on the west cost of New Zealand are brown coloured from the forest, different reason underlying a similar mechanism, they contain organisms.

  • @nhragold1922
    @nhragold1922 22 дня назад +1

    Id like to point out since we find frozen mammoths in permafrost, climate change obviously froze all the lands. So my point is what was happening before the 4 ice ages ? Its a good question that i have wondered about from a geological point of view.

  • @AaronBockelie
    @AaronBockelie 25 дней назад +2

    So, does this process happen to behave like theorized iron fertilization of oceans for Co2 sequestration?

    • @samlarkin8102
      @samlarkin8102 25 дней назад +1

      I was thinking the same. This is certainly alarming but also nature contains all its own answers in the end… will be be able to take it in the meantime is the question…

  • @lewisdoherty7621
    @lewisdoherty7621 24 дня назад +3

    With the copper, tin and lead coming down those streams, someone is going to trace them back to the mother load and then things will get interesting. It is like finding gold in a stream and the next question is where is the source of this?

    • @peterdarr383
      @peterdarr383 20 дней назад

      That'll do WONDERS for the environment ! You still have Palin's phone ## ??

    • @lewisdoherty7621
      @lewisdoherty7621 20 дней назад

      ​@@peterdarr383 It was just an observation as to what happens. A friend of mine who conducted scientific drilling in the Antarctic said there was a fear they would stumble over something really valuable and then there would be a fight over exploiting it. While people talk about going into space to mine, there is likely stuff under the Greenland and Antartica glaciers which would be hard to access, but still easier than space. I would think much of Alaska and Canada has already been probed, but maybe not. You can't pick and choose where the deposits are and they may happen to be may be under areas considered environmentally sensitive.

    • @peterdarr383
      @peterdarr383 19 дней назад

      @@lewisdoherty7621 Mining in Space would need to be done by robots, as the cost of shipping a banana to the ISS is $5,000 - or 20,000 per pound of food or fresh water.
      Gold is $2,354 ! right now, and there are even more valuable metals, but the trip needs to be worth it.
      Antarctica has oil and coal - it was attached to Australia and S. America and would also have a few Kimberlite Diamond sites under a mile of ice.
      Since there's literally no plants or animals in the interior of Antarctica, I don't know how mining there could be "harmful" to the environment. Just leave the coast clean for the seals and penguins.

  • @Avgjoecoffeeco
    @Avgjoecoffeeco 25 дней назад +4

    Why are some of the images on Google maps and Google earth in black and white at certain portions now?

    • @kitscheugy7739
      @kitscheugy7739 25 дней назад

      That's asking the right question, and I dont like the answer. Good observation, that is an important share. Thanks for your comment, if you can say that under the circumstances.

  • @briansimcoe9119
    @briansimcoe9119 22 дня назад +2

    Acid Rock Drainage and Dead Fish, live at Fillmore West

    • @paulleavell4317
      @paulleavell4317 21 день назад +2

      💃🏾🕺💃🏾🕺💃🏾🕺💃🏾🕺🤣🤣

  • @TahoeJones
    @TahoeJones 23 дня назад +1

    Wow. I guess this has never happened naturally. 😮

  • @IanMott
    @IanMott 25 дней назад +4

    Bog Iron!

  • @JohnJ469
    @JohnJ469 20 дней назад

    So what happened about 8,000 years ago during the Holocene Optimum when temps were warmer?

    • @chriswerb7482
      @chriswerb7482 18 дней назад

      But how fast did they rise to reach that temperature compared to how long it would take with the crazy speed temperatures and greenhouse levels are rising now?

    • @JohnJ469
      @JohnJ469 18 дней назад

      @@chriswerb7482 A lot faster. The warming of 1.5 degrees or so since 1850 pales when compared to natural events. We mostly get our temperature records from the ice cores in Greenland and Antarctica so we have to allow for "Polar Amplification". (Basically temps go up and down faster at the poles than the rest of the planet.)
      Even so, the exit from the Younger Dryas the temp change in those regions was around 13 degrees in 70 years. When you look at the long term record (search for global temps 100k years) you'll find nearly 2 dozen times the temps rose and fell by 15-20 degrees in a couple of centuries.
      Alaska is a bit of a special case in this as even during the last glaciation it was pretty much ice free.

  • @robpatterson9576
    @robpatterson9576 22 дня назад

    My first question is, how old is the melting ice containing these effluents? Could be important and revealing to other proxy data.

  • @pjgraham2211
    @pjgraham2211 21 день назад +1

    Since climate change ills natural to the planet but seems to us as alarming, these are signs of change. With our magnetic poles changing and the magnetosphere weakening also we will need to stay vigilant to try and stay ahead of the game. Thanks for the paper!

  • @petestransit
    @petestransit 25 дней назад +4

    there are mines all through this area, on a massive scale.
    Total bullshite

    • @chinookvalley
      @chinookvalley 24 дня назад

      And it's deadly. If you don't care, that's another topic.

  • @welcome_to_the_collapse
    @welcome_to_the_collapse 25 дней назад +2

    Too late now. Their research may get them published and, perhaps, some merit pay increases, but it's not going to impede the processes are currently underway.

    • @rcpmac
      @rcpmac 23 дня назад

      I suspect that you are right

  • @shanechostetler9997
    @shanechostetler9997 24 дня назад +1

    Nature has never been static, why think all of the sudden it’s supposed to be?

    • @cryptidsntunes
      @cryptidsntunes 23 дня назад +2

      That's like watching your teenager lose their hair and start needing a cane and saying Whelp! Everyone ages!
      Smdh

  • @skehleben7699
    @skehleben7699 21 день назад

    This is so depressing.

  • @codysimmonds2944
    @codysimmonds2944 25 дней назад +6

    In northern bc we have a river called the Beaton river. It used to be a clean dark water as should a normal rocky bottom river should. Some time during 50s-70s they thought it would be a good idea to build a copper mine extremely far north on the river maybe 6 hours up stream. And due to this the river has turned this nasty brown Color and there is almost no fish left in the river. I’d assume that a lot of the rivers your showing have the same problem there was ground disturbed up stream effects the whole river! Some might be natural but I doubt all 70+ of them like you said are.

  • @samlarkin8102
    @samlarkin8102 25 дней назад +1

    This comment thread is fascinating. On one hand, I commend the scientists for documenting, studying and bringing this to light. On another, I trust in the intelligence of nature and don’t buy into the fear that this is all bad, needs to be fixed… seems like we are seeing the Earth beginning some big shifts as she tries to find a new normal and we’ll see if that’s ultimately harmful or helpful to life. In the meantime why don’t we keep protecting the one planet we have?

    • @a.randomjack6661
      @a.randomjack6661 24 дня назад +1

      Seems you got "opinions". You must be looking for a job in politics or corp. media.
      The problem with amateurs is, they don't know they're amateurs" 🤷‍♂
      Don't forget, when your car breaks down, bring it to the dentist. He's an expert

    • @lubricustheslippery5028
      @lubricustheslippery5028 24 дня назад

      I don't believe in some Gaia theory or that the earth have some intelligence. More factually there have been several mass extinction events so more could definitely happen. You should look at some random satellite photos over land and most off them are heavily changed by humans most is neatly squares with little native nature left. The mass of concrete is bigger than all living things. The mass of mammals and birds is mostly chickens, pigs and humans wild bird and mammals is just a few %. So if there have been any earth intelligence we have definitely already killed it.

    • @user-ql9re3oq9m
      @user-ql9re3oq9m 9 дней назад

      lol keep “protecting the planet we have” by completely destroying it? Aren’t you aware the an abrupt climate change, like the one we are causing, will kill all living beings that adapted to the old climate? Eventually it will hopefully kill humans too - and then nature can take over again. Right now we took over nature and we destroyed every eco system on the planet. Nature will be fine, hopefully humans are on their way out

    • @samlarkin8102
      @samlarkin8102 8 дней назад

      @@a.randomjack6661 this makes all of the sense

  • @user-iy7lf9cs3n
    @user-iy7lf9cs3n 8 дней назад

    The earth has been doing this for all time changes

  • @napalmholocaust9093
    @napalmholocaust9093 26 дней назад +4

    Outlook not good 🎱

  • @jamesbarratt593
    @jamesbarratt593 23 дня назад

    So we need to drop filtration systems in the rivers. To keep them clean.

  • @ericcomp7032
    @ericcomp7032 25 дней назад

    😢

  • @terrymoore565
    @terrymoore565 23 дня назад +1

    Fear...they love that word.. calm down, its not new around Alaska or anywhere there are glaciers.

  • @bobcaygeon975
    @bobcaygeon975 17 дней назад

    Bottle that and sell it as Glacier-fed Iron Water. With proper marketing someone could crush it.

  • @michaelinhouston9086
    @michaelinhouston9086 18 дней назад

    Grade: A - . The video is too choppy - it is very distracting to change the scene or person speaking every few seconds. Ms Evinger and Mr Poulin are the only 2 people that were necessary to have speak. In spite of the disappointing editing and production, this video still gets an A- because it is virtually the only video on YT that has somebody (Mr Poulin) use the word "hypothesis" correctly and it is concise and presents clear information. I do give the editing and production team huge credit for not packing this video with fluff to make it longer (like most science videos on YT).

  • @magicone9327
    @magicone9327 18 дней назад

    And the ones that are worried about and those that want to remove dams to save salmon are never going to see that come to fruition before the oceans food chain is stopped, then we start to die off quite rapidly.

  • @user-ho3dk4pg8y
    @user-ho3dk4pg8y 25 дней назад

    😢😢

  • @nightlightabcd
    @nightlightabcd 25 дней назад +1

    I wonder what the FOX take on this will be?

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 23 дня назад

      Guessing something like, "Fearmongering SCIENTISTS exploit government loopholes to find excuses to go on a helicopter safari to the far north - and helicopters are very polluting!" They usually need to add that last bit because the sub-95 IQ crowd tends to think of the 110+ IQ crowd as manipulative chiselers who they just don't understand.

  • @LeaningTree-Cockadoodle
    @LeaningTree-Cockadoodle 24 дня назад

    Iron reaching the ocean could be a good thing.

  • @tobylaing9932
    @tobylaing9932 24 дня назад

    Where this is happening would some type of heavily monitored mining be a solution to stop or heavily reduce the amount of the material slury into the extremely fragile ecosystem?

  • @Fred-dc2km
    @Fred-dc2km 21 день назад

    Gold

  • @Living_Despite
    @Living_Despite 12 дней назад

    Sounds like mining opportunity.

  • @whysocurious7366
    @whysocurious7366 24 дня назад

    Sucks for everyone except big oil

  • @patrick247two
    @patrick247two 26 дней назад +1

    Thank you.

  • @ROCKLIKEACOBB
    @ROCKLIKEACOBB 23 дня назад

    Poles are shifting. What are you gonna do? 🤷‍♀
    Edit: what about plasma generated nitric oxide to mitigate harm of pole-shift on waters?

    • @scottekoontz
      @scottekoontz 21 день назад +1

      Pole shift has nothing to do with it. Oh well, you tried.

  • @frankblangeard8865
    @frankblangeard8865 25 дней назад +6

    This is a 'dinner plate issue'. It will feed many scientists and their families who get grants to study this!

  • @Agislife1960
    @Agislife1960 23 дня назад +1

    So because they've found fossilized tropical plants on the beach of the Arctic ocean, the million dollar question is, how much of this is due to man's activities on the planet and how much is just a cyclical climate change

    • @scottekoontz
      @scottekoontz 21 день назад

      Natural changes would be from natural forcings like Milankovitch cycle, TSI changes, etc. None of that is in play. Any idea why earth is warming if not for natural forcings? Think about it.

  • @oberstraphry
    @oberstraphry 25 дней назад +3

    There is a lot of mercury in permafrost, hope they are testing for that too.

  • @patrobbromccreanor820
    @patrobbromccreanor820 21 день назад

    Is there also GOLD?

  • @patricialozano1308
    @patricialozano1308 27 дней назад +5

    Is the end coming? 😢

    • @cxa011500
      @cxa011500 27 дней назад +2

      Yes! 😳

    • @needreamer6688
      @needreamer6688 26 дней назад +2

      That’s what we said. Water is main life necessity and it’s already been noticed in our business in AK with depleted sheep and caribou . Poor natives

  • @DelfinoGarza77
    @DelfinoGarza77 23 дня назад

    There's gold at the source

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 23 дня назад

      Big bears up there too, just in case you want to hike in and pan some while living in a tent.

  • @GeminiGlass
    @GeminiGlass 19 дней назад +1

    Cycle of the planet, I'm sure this has happened before.

    • @user-ql9re3oq9m
      @user-ql9re3oq9m 10 дней назад

      Yes during the Paleocene Eocene Maximus- except that time earth released the CO2 and this time humans released it 10x faster than nature. Earth is on a trajectory to match this era in the paleo records.

  • @fswatyahoocom
    @fswatyahoocom 25 дней назад

    glad there are no people there!

    • @boblatkey7160
      @boblatkey7160 25 дней назад

      Wow that was a super deep and thoughtful commentary that is absolutely significant.

  • @MyLoganTreks
    @MyLoganTreks 25 дней назад +1

    So sad it's decimated, and the permafrost melt is allowing much more atmosphere into the atmosphere. Vote for politicians who aren't climate denying.

  • @GudasWorld
    @GudasWorld 25 дней назад +1

    Doom

  • @user-wo2eb8hp3d
    @user-wo2eb8hp3d 21 день назад +1

    you mean Alaska might be more livable soon?

    • @chriswerb7482
      @chriswerb7482 18 дней назад

      If it was, would it matter if civilisation was so disrupted that Alaska could no longer afford to import all the things necessary to make a life there, assuming those things still existed?

    • @user-wo2eb8hp3d
      @user-wo2eb8hp3d 15 дней назад

      @@chriswerb7482 nonsense

  • @ronkirk5099
    @ronkirk5099 25 дней назад +2

    The planetary impacts of global warming just keep on snowballing with new disastrous consequences being discovered right and left. The solutions are at hand if we can only garner the political will.

    • @Gettothegone
      @Gettothegone 25 дней назад +1

      There is no replacing fossil fuels without people giving up all of the comfort of modernity

    • @paulleavell4317
      @paulleavell4317 21 день назад

      It's WAY beyond that!😢

  • @powerwagon3731
    @powerwagon3731 25 дней назад +3

    I’ve endured poor water quality for years on the Kenai. Fill up a 5 gallon bucket and it’s clear as can be. Come back the next morning and it looks like red paint. Probably the iron reacting to the atmosphere. One good thing is my wife’s low blood iron went away.

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 23 дня назад

      The Kenai! Mmm I saw that area years ago. Worked a summer in the fish canneries. Wild country.

  • @AGDinCA
    @AGDinCA 25 дней назад +2

    Thank you for bringing this issue to bear. I was unaware of the problem. We all know the climate is changing, but changes like this are unbeknownst to the general public. Each time we encounter something like this, it just adds to the portfolio of issues. At some point, even the deniers will be unable to look away

    • @joehatch1602
      @joehatch1602 23 дня назад

      Do you deny that the climate changes with or without people? Thats just life on earth. Adjust!

    • @AGDinCA
      @AGDinCA 23 дня назад

      @@joehatch1602 Oh, the climate changes over time; there's no doubt about that. But, it's ironic you use the term "adjust," as our planet, and all its inhabitants, is having difficulty "adjusting" to the speed at which our human activities have brought about the current climate change. Of course, the planet will survive; it's the rest of life on Earth that has me concerned.

    • @joehatch1602
      @joehatch1602 23 дня назад

      @@AGDinCA The climate has changed many times over the years from one extreme to another and somehow life keeps finding a way to go on. It doesn't matter about extinction because something always takes its place. People have adjusted before remember the ice age? They can adjust again. More people die from cold weather than hot weather anyway. Doesn't matter if it warms up a few degrees most people have air conditioning. 🤣

  • @danjo8673
    @danjo8673 24 дня назад +1

    So sad. I'm afraid the continued warming will only make things worse. Scientists noticed an increase of CO2 in our atmosphere back in the 1950s and it is still increasing today. We are victims of our own demise and it has gone too far to reverse what we humans have caused.

    • @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531
      @surelyyoujokemeinfailure7531 23 дня назад

      The US Navy began charting sea ice extent as soon as they had nuclear subs that could go clear under the polar icecaps and measure overhead. Warming started in late 40s / early 50s. There are some long-running lake sediment deposits that match up nicely. WW2 of course added a tremendous amount of planet-warming gas and much human industrial activity. The rebuilding afterwards kicked off a huge expansion of industry.

  • @PDXDrumr
    @PDXDrumr 19 дней назад

    This is th future, and it's unfortunate we ended up here. There is no way back, alaskans will be walking in muck for decades, its over 😢

  • @howardejjohnson
    @howardejjohnson 24 дня назад

    All the waters turned to WORMWOOD

  • @dubsar
    @dubsar 25 дней назад +1

    We will have to terraform Earth before terraformung Mars.

    • @samlarkin8102
      @samlarkin8102 25 дней назад

      Sadly true, I don’t know how people don’t see the lunacy of the idea

  • @j.f.c
    @j.f.c 27 дней назад +4

    Isn't iron vital to phytoplankton in the creation of oxygen and healthy oceans?

    • @UCDavisCAES
      @UCDavisCAES  27 дней назад +7

      Great point! It's actually the concentration of iron that's giving the water that striking orange color. Iron is one of several factors contributing to the toxicity. If you're curious about the details, we've got the full study linked in the video description. Dive into the paper to see all the fascinating science behind it! 🧐📚

    • @j.f.c
      @j.f.c 27 дней назад +4

      @@UCDavisCAES the video has a sense of doom even though it's a completely natural process. Yes there may be impacts locally but my point is that these "toxic metals" are also "nutrients" and vital to the production of oxygen. What may look ugly upstream might actually be very good downstream.

    • @frederickheard2022
      @frederickheard2022 25 дней назад

      @@j.f.cYou are being deliberately obtuse. 1) It’s the dose that makes the poison. 2) Widespread permafrost thawing is rapidly increasing the concentrations of metals in these streams, and the concentration is poisonous to keystone species. 3) Widespread permafrost thawing is a consequence of anthropogenic climate change.

    • @michaeldeierhoi4096
      @michaeldeierhoi4096 25 дней назад

      ​@@j.f.c It is a natural process that is ACCELERATED by global warming. It is not normal for the Arctic to be warming as fast as it is causing the permafrost to melt.

    • @WilliamBTCWallace
      @WilliamBTCWallace 25 дней назад

      @@j.f.cThankYOU!!! Then the unhinged come online to yell at humans for existing. As if you think our actions could stop this process? Show me PROOF of a cause and effect relationship between this natural process and human beings. Don’t say climate change. That is not proof of anything.

  • @shareebee2158
    @shareebee2158 18 дней назад

    We’re doomed

  • @elizabethbrauer1118
    @elizabethbrauer1118 25 дней назад +20

    Melting permafrost will also release large amounts of methane into the atmosphere, which would be catastrophic for all life in the end.

    • @a.randomjack6661
      @a.randomjack6661 24 дня назад

      One measuring site of thawing permafrost record up to 1000 times more CO2 than methane. It's hard to find that info, I mean the data coming from such sites.

    • @a.randomjack6661
      @a.randomjack6661 24 дня назад +1

      I'm also worried about the decline in photosynthesis and the emergence of hydrogen sulfide.2 major contributors to mass extinction, which I worry a lot more about than sea level rise, despite how catastrophic sea level will be.

  • @bevinboulder5039
    @bevinboulder5039 20 дней назад

    Have to wonder if they're having similar problems in Russia.

  • @antonyjh1234
    @antonyjh1234 23 дня назад

    John Martin i think in the 80's said give me a ship full of iron and I will give you the next ice age. How cool if this was a natural way of the earth cooling itself, taking out carbon by phytoplankton blooms that eventuate.

  • @adelaferreira4575
    @adelaferreira4575 25 дней назад +3

    Thank you all ,this is so important for Alaska wild life and the people who live there,now try to explain this phenomenon to climate change deniers ,we are killing our planet in every posible way unfortunately !

  • @mumblesbadly7708
    @mumblesbadly7708 24 дня назад

    Uhhh… The “Artic” is not warming. The *Arctic* is.

  • @user-xy6px6cc8f
    @user-xy6px6cc8f 23 дня назад +1

    BULLSHIT. It's springtime in ALASKA!
    Happens everywhere!

  • @justsayin8734
    @justsayin8734 24 дня назад

    CO2 escaping from permafrost needs reporting. It will be huge.

  • @jakeshuster6783
    @jakeshuster6783 25 дней назад +1

    well I know in tazmania this problem is directly related to mining. Are you guys bs'ing us?

  • @HandyMan657
    @HandyMan657 25 дней назад +8

    She said all the magic words for the mining companies. When we have a dictaster in the oval, Alaska will be torn to shreds in search of precious metals.

    • @midcenturymoldy
      @midcenturymoldy 25 дней назад +1

      Dictator + disaster = dictaster.

    • @samlarkin8102
      @samlarkin8102 25 дней назад

      I think mining companies are already hip to Alaska’s resources!

  • @emmahardesty4330
    @emmahardesty4330 25 дней назад +4

    A new terror. What's it going to take before the whole populace wakes up. We're in deep trouble. Health instead of wealth should have been the focus. What's it gonna take.

    • @fredfolson5355
      @fredfolson5355 25 дней назад

      If it's one thing I learned during the pandemic about mankind "waking up" is that we [collectively] won't wake up. There is so much mis-information out there about what's happening to the climate system and so many people are deeply entrenched in their anti-climate change camp. Whatever the Earth is going to do to correct this imbalance that we have created, we are all unfortunately going to have to go through it together.

    • @WilliamBTCWallace
      @WilliamBTCWallace 25 дней назад

      @@fredfolson5355You mean like how people still think the experimental jabs stopped the spread? I agree. Talk about being asleep.

    • @alpenglow1235
      @alpenglow1235 25 дней назад +2

      Huh? We're in trouble? Have you taken a moment to study the history of earth, and it's 5 ice ages?

    • @fredfolson5355
      @fredfolson5355 25 дней назад

      @@alpenglow1235yes I have. There’s not much we (as a species) can do to the Earth. But if we get our climate out of wack, we will be forced to change. I don’t think we’ll go extinct and join the long list of species that have come and gone over the eons, but our numbers will be drastically reduced.

    • @joehatch1602
      @joehatch1602 23 дня назад +1

      Keep whining about it or learn to deal with it.🤣

  • @o_o8203
    @o_o8203 19 дней назад

    "aquatic, environment, and human health" let's stop separating ourselves from the environment. Yes it is semantics to a point, but we depend on the environment for our health.

  • @KidHorn7001
    @KidHorn7001 25 дней назад +5

    Have they only been observing these streams since 2017? If so, this may have been happening off and on for thousands of years. Might be nothing to worry about.

    • @omegastar19
      @omegastar19 25 дней назад

      No, they said they noticed the *change* in 2017.

    • @mariemyndala
      @mariemyndala 19 дней назад

      I've lived in AK 25yrs. There was nothing but beautiful crystal clear streams in all of South Central in all the various communities I lived in. Of course glacial silt too, but that's not a bad thing. Then in 2015, I watched streams I had loved for years, slowly turn brown-orange...and in 2016 I noticed rivers turning orange and in various locations. No one cared about it then... because it was like every other few streams/rivers over, but now it's hard to miss. And the metallic "oil sheens off" of these, that cover the water- so basically the life in and around the water begins to die- is really thick. It's stale water that eventually gets occupied by brown algae and eventually dries up. It's something worry to about. Iron Oxides at this rate aren't good for us or the planet.

  • @puddintame7794
    @puddintame7794 25 дней назад +2

    On a 1 to 10 scale... how panicked should I be about this?

    • @Teeveepicksures
      @Teeveepicksures 25 дней назад +1

      0. There's nothing anyone could do at this point.

    • @WJV9
      @WJV9 25 дней назад +1

      It will increase the price of wild salmon, otherwise it's just one more decrease in the health of the ecosystem that humans have caused. Of course the glacial melting will cause more extreme weather patterns all over the globe due to the breakdown of polar orbital wind patterns and make extreme hot/cold spells when the Jet Stream is pushed South or North.

    • @lifewriter7455
      @lifewriter7455 25 дней назад +4

      0. Life on Earth will survive somehow. Humans will not. That's ok. 🖤😎👍