4:35 to the chatter there, just because Puck is voiced by a lady, it doesn't mean Puck is a she. Monkey D Luffy is also voiced by a lady if that helps my argument
Bart Simpson and Bobby Hill are also voiced by ladies. That argument is as silly as saying Diane Nguyen from Bojack Horseman is a white character because the voice actor is white. Or that Bojack is a human because he isn't voice acted by an actual horse.
I mean, this is a common practice - children are often voiced by women since their voice have higher pitch (like children) but they still are much easier to work with than actual children (since, you know, they are fully grow adults) and their voice won't change over time. Puck is supposed to be whimsikal and childlike, so chances are, it would be voiced by woman no matter what. That's just a dumb argument
I’m drunk as shit, but I really respect Baumi’s progressive and people focused views. I’ve never heard about conservatism in such a manner but it legitimately explains so much!! Definitely one of my favorite RUclipsrs!!
15:00 and that's why you're one of my favorite channels (along with the great content and interesting discussions/rants). I think you make your points eloquently and simple enough for people who don't really now that much about it to understand, and curating your viewer base by refusing to engage bigots makes for great spaces (as they say, if you let a fasc*st stay in a bar, eventually, that'll be a fasc*st bar). Anyway, great video and thanks for being a wonderful ally
you know, many gaming youtubers like to be "apolitical" to preserve the views and I'm just really happy that my consistently favorite dota creator is openly progressive and humanist
@@ritambanerjee4912 if you mean trans people, you're just factually wrong, like one Wikipedia article away from proving yourself wrong - that's how basic it is
I very much hate the fact that all of this is immediately considered "politics". You can be completely neutral and treat people well... as people? I do not find this a hard idea.
Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant. -Karl Popper Felt this was appropriate to put here based on Baumi's early discussion.
@@gunjchowwiwat8357 honestly it's probably more accurate to interpret the use of "it" as puck using _any_ pronoun, and the "narration" of dota's lore and tooltip just defaults to it because it's very much a creature far removed from any sense of humanity it's just kinda hard to imagine puck actually giving a real answer to the question, because it's just not a concept that meaningfully exists in the lil' bastard's brain. hell, i could easily see a gag where two different parties that encounter puck slap it with he/him and she/her, respectively, and it just goes unquestioned by anyone up until the two parties meet and get confused at why the other thinks puck is a girl / boy puck, naturally, would not be the slightest help in resolving it, and would probably even confuse the matter further just for shits and giggles
puck is a boy. all the in game text refers to "he" "him" "his" etc. the lore is that hes a really young fae dragon. probably why they chose to go with the high pitched voice, to highlight his youth. unless they recently decided to retcon it all to virtue signal.
@@JamesMichaelDoyle the earliest iteration of puck's hero page on dota 2's website that's available on the wayback machine uses "it" in both the lore blurb, the abilities' tooltips, and the abilities' lore this iteration is dated july 4th. of 2012 if this is "recently" to you, i have bad news about how many years of dota you've missed
@@JamesMichaelDoyle "recently" being ... 2012 at the latest? because like. dota 2 _has_ a website. you _can_ just go there and read the hero lore blurbs and the ability tooltips and little lore fragments at the bottom of 'em. and it's been around for like 13 years now, and that means it's been _archived_ for 13 years now, and that means you can go to the earliest version of puck's hero page from back in 2012 and look at its initial lore and see that it's exactly the same at the lore it has today, except for the fact that nowadays the former concluding sentence has been cojoined with the former penultimate one which, if you'll notice, is not "except for the fact that they use different pronouns for puck." and if you'll also notice, the current lore uses it for puck. and i think you can figure what you get when you combine the original lore using the same pronouns as the current one with the current lore calling puck it so if this _was_ a recent change for you ( with the "change," from what i can tell, being that dota 2 heroes are not the same characters as their dota 1 counterparts ), i have bad news about the amount of dota you've missed this past decade
as an italian, i'm offended by the guy that thinks us italian would be offended by that recipe. The recipe sounds good, i dont like beans but they are spot on with the rest. To the guy in question : don't be offended or even think to be offended for something you are not part off, that sounds like entitlement.
Really enjoyed you're hierarchy theory. Does make a lot of sense. I always just thought of the split as being between people trying to be cooperative vs people trying to be competitive at their core. Always thought of it as people not being able to trust at all, as being the core problem. Like being too cynical to believe someone might want to do something nice just out of empathy.
i think its unfortunate that these kinds of things are so taboo and disruptive to talk about, because you have a really good opinion and i had never thought about the hierarchy thing. its a shame that so many people have cool thoughts like this but will probably never talk about them. I was raised in a conservative family, so i also understand how they think. In my experience, almost all of it was on religious grounds. What this book says, what this religious figure said, etc. I don't really know about the hierarchy thing, to me it felt much more like a web of "once you believe this, we will get you to believe this, and then this, and this" and so on. Its not that conservatives were unwilling to change their ideas, its was much much more about who said that idea and what they built it off of. All that said, I think you are right about the hierarchy thing for this main reason: almost all the time, theres this feeling within conservative beliefs that "we're the victim, everyone else is against us and trying to hurt us."
Hey, I'm trans and I think your mindset is the right one for a cisgendered/straight person to have. Although you should care if you have lgqbtq+ friends or similar and they open up to you about their issues, but that is something that just comes with being a good friend and person. basically all of my friends where like: "oh ok, cool" when I came out to them, but when ever I talk to them about gender dysphoria or so, I never get the feeling that they don't care. also, my favourite magic cards are frantic search and kingpin's pet
this is something that baumi's brought up before and it's just sorta a consequence of english often squashing things into a positive-negative binary. like, y'know how if you say you "don't like" something, it sounds like you're saying you feel _negatively_ about it, even though the literal read is that you just don't feel positive towards the thing? the whole ambivalent zone is just sorta squashed into nonexistence, making it kinda hard to express neutrality towards anything that's what he means by "not caring, but in the most loving sense": he _does_ care, just ... very mildly, to the point where it's really more of a positive apathy. he has nothing to say or add to someone being queer, he just supports it and that's just the end of that. he is ready to move onto something he can actually talk and form a meaningful opinion about, like card games. that's the type of "don't care" he means
@@hi-i-am-atan yeah, I get that. That's exactly what I'm saying. I might have phrased it poorly, because I suck with words. I was just adding that you should care if a trans person you know opens up to you about certain things, just like how you would care if a cis friend opens up about their non-trans issues. maybe I should differentiate between caring and not letting it bother you. What Baumi described is not letting someones gender bother you, because why should it.
As a trans person that watches your videos since 2016, I think is very respectful of you to research before making those videos. That said, there are many interesting things about people aside their gender, so, I also agree with you about MTG and my favorite card is "Kwain, Itinerant Meddler" 😎
Hey, i don't usually comment on videos but i genuinely felt like i wanted to say thank you for sharing your views on trans people, it makes me happy to know a youtuber i've watched for quite a long time accepts people and cares enough to actively make their community another safe space, i know you're not the only person to do this but regardless thank you.
the usual answer is Conservatives want to perpetuate and abuse a hirarchy and system they put in place to benefit only themselves and use differences between people to drive hatred to keep their positions. Conservatives usually have zero moral ground to stand on, at least here in the U.S where their only goal is to perpetuate suffering because they "worked hard for what they got" and for some reason people shouldn't be treated as people if they look different. This scares us specifically because *we* are a plural system and society would simply deem us derranged and get us on medication, also in terms of favorite magic card it is Dr. Maddison Li from the fallout set, absolutely LOVE energy being useable.
A reply to a comment if you tube to further boost engagement. To further engage I'll ask a question please respond in line. Is there any difference in value or weight for a direct comment or a reply? I know spiff and co discovered slow play back speed meta. Is there a comment meta? Long or short better? We must now how best to support our peeps!
Puck doesn't have a girls voice, it has a child's voice. The law says its "The juvenile form of a Faerie Dragon". Which means it's a child.
4:35 to the chatter there, just because Puck is voiced by a lady, it doesn't mean Puck is a she. Monkey D Luffy is also voiced by a lady if that helps my argument
Bart Simpson and Bobby Hill are also voiced by ladies.
That argument is as silly as saying Diane Nguyen from Bojack Horseman is a white character because the voice actor is white.
Or that Bojack is a human because he isn't voice acted by an actual horse.
yep, Naruto as well and he's obviously a guy
Goku of all characters was voiced by a lady, people are just dumb like that
I mean, this is a common practice - children are often voiced by women since their voice have higher pitch (like children) but they still are much easier to work with than actual children (since, you know, they are fully grow adults) and their voice won't change over time. Puck is supposed to be whimsikal and childlike, so chances are, it would be voiced by woman no matter what. That's just a dumb argument
So was Ash Ketchum
I’m drunk as shit, but I really respect Baumi’s progressive and people focused views. I’ve never heard about conservatism in such a manner but it legitimately explains so much!! Definitely one of my favorite RUclipsrs!!
15:00 and that's why you're one of my favorite channels (along with the great content and interesting discussions/rants). I think you make your points eloquently and simple enough for people who don't really now that much about it to understand, and curating your viewer base by refusing to engage bigots makes for great spaces (as they say, if you let a fasc*st stay in a bar, eventually, that'll be a fasc*st bar).
Anyway, great video and thanks for being a wonderful ally
100%
Absolutely legendary speech, love the hard stance. Human rights should never be "up for discussion."
this is why baumi's my streamer >:3
1x6 thats super cool! Was waiting for it for such a long time! More 1x6!
you know, many gaming youtubers like to be "apolitical" to preserve the views and I'm just really happy that my consistently favorite dota creator is openly progressive and humanist
14:47 based king, show those people they have no place in any decent community
@@ritambanerjee4912 if you mean trans people, you're just factually wrong, like one Wikipedia article away from proving yourself wrong - that's how basic it is
I very much hate the fact that all of this is immediately considered "politics". You can be completely neutral and treat people well... as people? I do not find this a hard idea.
@@ENRAEGE Yeah, it is weird indeed. People should try to be a bit better at empathy, instead of being tribal and picking sides in a "culture war".
++
Binge watching every video, 10/10
Thanks baumi for the video again! and yeah i'm proud to name you one of my fav youtubers!
wonder if hurricane could help you win against melee oriented heroes, or any rooting effect items
All i can think of is making a puck build in boosted where you keeping vanishing and spamming attacks with the tree (if it is still there)
Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.
-Karl Popper
Felt this was appropriate to put here based on Baumi's early discussion.
Let's go, 1x6
puck is a dragoon and got no gender
Even it has gender its pronoun is still it.
@@gunjchowwiwat8357 honestly it's probably more accurate to interpret the use of "it" as puck using _any_ pronoun, and the "narration" of dota's lore and tooltip just defaults to it because it's very much a creature far removed from any sense of humanity
it's just kinda hard to imagine puck actually giving a real answer to the question, because it's just not a concept that meaningfully exists in the lil' bastard's brain. hell, i could easily see a gag where two different parties that encounter puck slap it with he/him and she/her, respectively, and it just goes unquestioned by anyone up until the two parties meet and get confused at why the other thinks puck is a girl / boy
puck, naturally, would not be the slightest help in resolving it, and would probably even confuse the matter further just for shits and giggles
puck is a boy. all the in game text refers to "he" "him" "his" etc. the lore is that hes a really young fae dragon. probably why they chose to go with the high pitched voice, to highlight his youth.
unless they recently decided to retcon it all to virtue signal.
@@JamesMichaelDoyle the earliest iteration of puck's hero page on dota 2's website that's available on the wayback machine uses "it" in both the lore blurb, the abilities' tooltips, and the abilities' lore
this iteration is dated july 4th. of 2012
if this is "recently" to you, i have bad news about how many years of dota you've missed
@@JamesMichaelDoyle "recently" being ... 2012 at the latest?
because like. dota 2 _has_ a website. you _can_ just go there and read the hero lore blurbs and the ability tooltips and little lore fragments at the bottom of 'em. and it's been around for like 13 years now, and that means it's been _archived_ for 13 years now, and that means you can go to the earliest version of puck's hero page from back in 2012 and look at its initial lore and see that it's exactly the same at the lore it has today, except for the fact that nowadays the former concluding sentence has been cojoined with the former penultimate one
which, if you'll notice, is not "except for the fact that they use different pronouns for puck." and if you'll also notice, the current lore uses it for puck. and i think you can figure what you get when you combine the original lore using the same pronouns as the current one with the current lore calling puck it
so if this _was_ a recent change for you ( with the "change," from what i can tell, being that dota 2 heroes are not the same characters as their dota 1 counterparts ), i have bad news about the amount of dota you've missed this past decade
1x6, now i need some food to watch
It's time for 1x6 baby
as an italian, i'm offended by the guy that thinks us italian would be offended by that recipe.
The recipe sounds good, i dont like beans but they are spot on with the rest.
To the guy in question : don't be offended or even think to be offended for something you are not part off, that sounds like entitlement.
seeing him die to silence 8 times before buying a dispel is painful
Really enjoyed you're hierarchy theory. Does make a lot of sense.
I always just thought of the split as being between people trying to be cooperative vs people trying to be competitive at their core. Always thought of it as people not being able to trust at all, as being the core problem. Like being too cynical to believe someone might want to do something nice just out of empathy.
i think its unfortunate that these kinds of things are so taboo and disruptive to talk about, because you have a really good opinion and i had never thought about the hierarchy thing. its a shame that so many people have cool thoughts like this but will probably never talk about them.
I was raised in a conservative family, so i also understand how they think. In my experience, almost all of it was on religious grounds. What this book says, what this religious figure said, etc. I don't really know about the hierarchy thing, to me it felt much more like a web of "once you believe this, we will get you to believe this, and then this, and this" and so on. Its not that conservatives were unwilling to change their ideas, its was much much more about who said that idea and what they built it off of. All that said, I think you are right about the hierarchy thing for this main reason: almost all the time, theres this feeling within conservative beliefs that "we're the victim, everyone else is against us and trying to hurt us."
Yay 1x6
A comment for youtube to give a video a better rating
YEAAAAAAHHHH
BASED
time for bed❤
Bro love you u r my fav youtuber and streamer
as a trans woman who's been watching for a while, thank you baumi ❤❤
Hey, I'm trans and I think your mindset is the right one for a cisgendered/straight person to have. Although you should care if you have lgqbtq+ friends or similar and they open up to you about their issues, but that is something that just comes with being a good friend and person. basically all of my friends where like: "oh ok, cool" when I came out to them, but when ever I talk to them about gender dysphoria or so, I never get the feeling that they don't care.
also, my favourite magic cards are frantic search and kingpin's pet
this is something that baumi's brought up before and it's just sorta a consequence of english often squashing things into a positive-negative binary. like, y'know how if you say you "don't like" something, it sounds like you're saying you feel _negatively_ about it, even though the literal read is that you just don't feel positive towards the thing? the whole ambivalent zone is just sorta squashed into nonexistence, making it kinda hard to express neutrality towards anything
that's what he means by "not caring, but in the most loving sense": he _does_ care, just ... very mildly, to the point where it's really more of a positive apathy. he has nothing to say or add to someone being queer, he just supports it and that's just the end of that. he is ready to move onto something he can actually talk and form a meaningful opinion about, like card games. that's the type of "don't care" he means
@@hi-i-am-atan yeah, I get that. That's exactly what I'm saying. I might have phrased it poorly, because I suck with words. I was just adding that you should care if a trans person you know opens up to you about certain things, just like how you would care if a cis friend opens up about their non-trans issues. maybe I should differentiate between caring and not letting it bother you. What Baumi described is not letting someones gender bother you, because why should it.
Hey man, i know you have this so i will ask that you give it to us
Give us your recipe spreadsheet please
As a trans person that watches your videos since 2016, I think is very respectful of you to research before making those videos. That said, there are many interesting things about people aside their gender, so, I also agree with you about MTG and my favorite card is "Kwain, Itinerant Meddler" 😎
Dam
E
❤❤
Omg, 1eks6
Hey, i don't usually comment on videos but i genuinely felt like i wanted to say thank you for sharing your views on trans people, it makes me happy to know a youtuber i've watched for quite a long time accepts people and cares enough to actively make their community another safe space, i know you're not the only person to do this but regardless thank you.
are people really assuming character's gender via the va's gender? look at luffy bro, he's va'd by a lady along with goku
Hola
the usual answer is Conservatives want to perpetuate and abuse a hirarchy and system they put in place to benefit only themselves and use differences between people to drive hatred to keep their positions. Conservatives usually have zero moral ground to stand on, at least here in the U.S where their only goal is to perpetuate suffering because they "worked hard for what they got" and for some reason people shouldn't be treated as people if they look different.
This scares us specifically because *we* are a plural system and society would simply deem us derranged and get us on medication, also in terms of favorite magic card it is Dr. Maddison Li from the fallout set, absolutely LOVE energy being useable.
First one! 6 seconds!
caring about gender is very phobic
A comment for youtube to give a video a better rating
A reply to a comment if you tube to further boost engagement.
To further engage I'll ask a question please respond in line.
Is there any difference in value or weight for a direct comment or a reply? I know spiff and co discovered slow play back speed meta. Is there a comment meta? Long or short better? We must now how best to support our peeps!
A comment for youtube to give a video a better rating