One fun fact about the Class 59 is that it was based on the EMD SD40-2, which were for many years considered the "gold standard" for locomotives here in the US.
Also Danish engine drivers look back with fondness at the Class MZ, another SD40 derivative, similar to this but prettier :) They never failed..Many of them are still in operation with other railways.
@@gdwnet No, the Class 66 is the one that came after this, and was basically an upgraded Class 59 (with a newer prime mover, among other things). The Class 66, I believe, is more similar to an SD60 or SD70, IIRC.
@@skuula we have MZs in Australia they are my favourite locomotives although sadly they're banned from entering the state I live in and they only really run in southern new south Wales and around Sydney both places I never go
Dapol's quality control has seemed to increase a lot recently. I wonder if this is going to be a turning point for the company, dare I say, reaching the same standards as Rapido! Great video and loco sam!
Agreed. My last acquisitions from them are superb models, with zero problems running them (two class 35 and two class 22 in N, a 9F and a Britannia are expected by now). They are on the run for taking the position of Hornby in the UK model trains market.
Bought 2 of these before watching your review and I’m really happy with them. Whilst the speed at 50% in your video demonstrates to be quite slow, as you mentioned it has the capacity to run quite a lot faster which is how I run them with a long rake of wagons. Another great review Sam
To be honest, if a company wants to save a little money, I'd rather them cut costs on documentation and keep the model at a higher quality. It seems Dapol have cut costs with the documentation in this one, but overall the model seems to be pretty decent. I know it doesn't match Accura, but it also doesn't match the price of Accura either :). I think this is quite good for the price point. :)
Great review Sam. I have the sound version of the DB 59 and it’s absolutely fantastic. The speakers that dapol supply in the sound versions are not your typical sugarcube or anything but are large bassy speakers that suit the 59 perfectly. As for the Lima version you mentioned and ran, Hornby have been producing a model of the Lima 59 pretty much since Hornby bought Lima all those years ago. Obviously they have updated the model in areas such as a better motor with more pickups, NEM couplings on the newer versions and slightly better decoration. Detail though is exactly the same. They are 8 pin DCC ready also
Looks good, a great improvement of the hornby/lima 59 that's been the modeller's only option for the last 3(?) decades. Also looks comparable to the bachmann 66s, although slightly better, and better quality than the similarly priced Hattons 66s. I might consider one, although I have no idea which. I have the hornby model of 59001 in Aggregate Industries livery, so I'll probably get a /1 or a /2 in a livery not carried by any other mainline class, although 003 in GBRf is tempting me a lot too. The 59s have a top speed of 60mph, which they regularly run at with heavy trains, so since most modellers run trains at greater than 50% speed, this is absolutely fine. The 66s used the 59 bodyshell to push them into service very quickly (18 months between the first batch order and the first being delivered), but they were quite different internally, sacrificing torque for speed since most 66s run at 75mph (although some, like the freightliner /6s, are geared for 60mph so they can haul heavier loads).
Hi Sam, I recently started watching your channel. Happy that I came across same and thanks for the info you provide. In this particular one, you were being very kind to Dapol. I did not like the paint work at all. On one side the SHENKER has a bad N with the right corner having extra paint making it pretty wide! It is almost like the paint dripped and created a smudge. There were several other places where the surface under the paint was not smoothed out etc. Even if the price is low, the paint job has to be clean... in my opinion. Enjoy the channel. Will catch up with the rest of them. Thanks and regards. Ananda from the Bay area US
Sam, I've gotta say thank you for your good honest review from the unboxing to the conclusion. I've seen some reviews of this loco and that a person went full ham and made it out to be a Buyers Beware. He literally kit bashed it right out of the box and "fixed-it" his name is Richard at Everard Junction. He said he had rewired it, did some body corrections and did some paint corrections. I didn't see what the model looked like before right out of the box on his channel though. He also did that to a Heljan model prior to that and said "it wasn't worthy of a review on his layout" out of the box. Therefore we didn't hear or see a proper review until after he hastily corrected it. Thank's again Sam!
This new Class 59 diesel locomotive from Dapol is very nice. Even though it may not have that much detail but it is decent and reasonably priced Sam. It is a perfect budget model.
I have not purchased the Dapol class 59 but have a number of their class 68 which in my personal opinion is one of the best diesel loco models avaliable today. May look to buy Class 59 in GBRf livery later in the year as have other preferable models I am looking to purchase or have on order for the first half of the year.
The EMD HT-C (High Traction - Co) trucks on this model are the only trucks I have ever seen on an HO/OO model locomotive which have rotating bearing end caps!!! NICE!!!
Great video Sam! As a long time fan of the class 59 i was very pleased to finally see the release of these models. however one thing that does bother me is the height of the silencer (the big silver metal thing on the roof). As on the real thing it hangs lower than the roof, but on the model it raises above it. Not a major problem but you would've thought they would've realized it in the designing stage. unless they assumed it would've been the same as the 66s! Those lights do also look a little scruffy, but all round the model does look nice. Thanks for sharing
One of the buffers is wonky, the one at the non-kinematic end. To me it stands out like dog's...um...I think you have the same expression in the U.K. :P
Good review but you need to compare this Dapol Class 59 with the Hattons Class 66, that will give you a truer indication of how things have moved on because the detail on the Hattons 66 is beyond what Dapol have produced here. The cab doors opening is a useless feature because it creates a massive gap between the doors & the loco body which isn't prototypical. For me the Dapol Class 59 is low rent compared to the Hattons 66 and don't forget the Hattons 66 was only £150 RRP regardless of the issues that transpired post release and certainly hope Hattons do a batch 2 fixing those issues. This is a good model but not great, remember that exhaust system sits proud of the body which is a fail.
Hi Sam, another fair and frank review of an excellent addition to the motive power fraternity. I have the National Power one. Tell you what, it's solidly made. All of those additional 'separately fitted' items actually stay there - my A/S Deltic has moulted parts like a Persian cat does fur in Summer!! I've had the body off perhaps 5 times and no collateral damage at all - which is unusual with the 'latest additions' available nowadays. Al.
Great video and review Sam ,this Dapol 59 looks great with what seems like a affordable price also I like that dapol VTG wagon which also include 4 representions of rolled sheet metal .. just for interest going back to around 2012 you could pick up a Bachmann 66 from hattons for around £55
If you got the Track Sam, you should of tested to see if it actually goes on the R1 Track by doing a small layout of the Radius 1 & see the results for yourself!!! 😉🤔🚂🚂🚂
Just bought one of these locos, will be doing some extra additions such as fitting some bufferbeam detailing to one end and acquiring an ESU Loksound V5 from Roads & Rails. I must say that Dapol have actually done a decent job with this loco, I just don't like the rather artificial looking headlights and the rather pointless cab doors which don't even open at all and an extremely plain looking cab. Apart from that it's definitely a welcome addition and finally replaces the outdated Hornby/Ex-Lima tooling model!
Well I will say your half right on the class history as the class 59 like the 66 was built in both Canada (London, Ontario) and the USA (La Grange, Illinois)
While not my interest, I am hopping Dapols O gauge Class 66 (the successor of the 66 sort of will be of good detail) will be good. I do hope you review one Sam.
Strait forward quality and good value for he money. What more can one ask ? A modern heavy duty loc that will do its job on the model railway. Well done Dapol !! Thanks for sharing Sam. All the best, Filip
Born and raised in America and I have a fondness for the American styles of locomotives. But this one is something I really like. Just like the class 8 shunter. Is there a D in there somewhere? I just may have to come up with a plausible explanation and back story to get one for my model railroad...
Fairly decent for the money, but not sure if Dapol’s class 59 would make it passed our assessment tbh. The engineering of the bogey internals would be an immediate no-no (clipped and no bearings in 2023...?). Some niggles we could perhaps live with, e.g. the exhaust unit sitting too high compared to the prototype and sloppy fitting of the cab grill..., but then the enormous seams around the doors would really annoy us too much. The latter evidently because they can open, but we’d rather not have that design at all tbh since they make those rather nasty unrealistic gap around them. Overall, certainly somewhat decent value, but those bogey internals... Not quite keen on that... Cheerio.
If so, then it’s an interesting (re)design, as the SD 40-2, like most locomotives for the North American rail network, were single-ended; with a cab, a short nose (hood), and a long hood. Most ran short hood forward, but some railroads like to run them long hood forward, in case of a crash at a grade crossing. So I wonder if they (EMD) lengthened the frame to make room for a cab on the other end, or if they used a smaller diesel engine, and just crammed all the internals forward to make room?
👍It might be silly , but I do enjoy the "slicker" manual. Part of the experience such as proper packaging, graphics ,the unboxing , a detail bag , etc . (I know ). Warley version did seem speedier . Good one Sam , Thanks !
About you said you were thinking of putting a loop or two of N gauge track inside your TT gauge ovals on your layout, have you thought of using flex-track for the curves, Atlas and I think Peco make flex-track in N gauge, and like I said before get the N gauge track in code 80
Eleo Sam. What a beautiful train. I still got to send u my pic of my layout. Anyway ur so awesome. And I had to fix my Henry cause the pick ups were causing issues and and I just added wires to only in the drive wheel and took off the pick ups and only used the wires to the motor and it worked after that but it can only use 2 wheels to work not all 3
WOW! Amazing locomotive! Keep it up! I have a question, how do you become a channel member? Is it a private thing or is it public. Please answer my question, reply if you can! Thanks, I love your videos, your the best!
It's a shame that there is some easy to fix downsides on this engine (bogies conception, ease of opening, even if far better than anything from Heljan, instruction manual) because everything else is spot on for the price. And, as with recent Dapol models (including N scale ones, I'm happy with my class 22 and 35 !), it's not overspeeding. Halve the weight by removing every diecast you can, remove the little nice details like the opening doors and the rotating axleboxes, replace etched grills by molded ones, simplify to the bare minimum the lighting (white forward, red backwards, and go flux yourself for anything else), put an anemic motor without flywheel geared for an HST, and sell it GBP 220 retailer's price : now, you have an Hornby model... It's not an ultra top level model, but the price is not ultra top level too : looks nice, works fine, and does not require to sign for a mortgage to buy one. If you are in modern engines in OO, it's a must have. Some downs, but nothing that is a no-go considering the price. You can't remove from me the idea that Dapol is becoming a major player in the market, at the detriment of Bachmann and Hornby. If I would model UK trains in this scale and period, I would certainly buy one on the spot.
Sam I like this class of diesel and the details are good but I have problem with the livery to me it looks very toy like . You look at other manufacturers livery’s are so much vivid . The rest of details are fine. The most important thing to me will be how long it will last before having a problem like a few of my Dapol engines that have failed. Great review Sam.
Great review here am, must admit I was surprised t see you get the db version, I thought you would have gone for one of the different ones, I have the db version myself and to be honest I have mixed emotions about it, I’m very happy to finally have a class 59 in my fleet but there are a few things that I don’t like, one thing that I don’t like is the flickering lights on dc power which happens at low speed, also one of the lights doesn’t work on mine but I can forgive that because it’s on the ed where stock is going to be coupled up to, must admit while I have had mixed emotions about this db version I am thinking of picking up the EWS one that dapol announced recently.
Thanks a lot David - yeah I thought it was a bit different! Ahh interesting - I didn't really notice much flickering but I guess you're right looking at the footage. The EWS one sure does look good! :D Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains the lights tend to flicker when I’m running the locomotive at slow speed which is annoying because I have locomotives that I can run at slow speed and they don’t have any flickering lights, it most likely would improve if I had dcc but I don’t have dcc.
I think I get an ARC one as a 59/1. Would be interesting to see your review of the Cavalex Models Class 60 when it comes out in 2024 Sam. In truth, Dapol models are not expected to be another Accurascale but they are better made than the tosh I was given by Hornby in exchange for my hard earned money. I will get a Dapol Class 59 as it is superior to the older Lima model that Hornby charge for that is not much cheaper than this.
Enjoyed your review. Of the four produced by Dapol, the DB is the one I did not purchase. I obtained the sound versions with the NP version with smoke. The sound versions are amazing.
Probably one of the more interesting units considering it’s coming from the us, I do find the db branding a bit odd, did it run in the ui or Germany? Either way very nice review
Hi Sam. Great review as always. Even though this model doesn't have the bells and whistles of the Accurascale model, for the price you do get what you pay for. It does have a lot going for it. I might be able to afford it one day! Either eat or buy this! Lol. Very good product from Dapol. Best, Pete.
I have one of these and ran it in yesterday. I have no complaints except maybe that coupling that is pointing down. I would rate it a bit higher than you and I think it is fairer to compare it to the Hornby 59 and maybe the Bachmann 66.
« It’s not going to blow you away at £150… » For « oldies » like me, £150 seems an awful lot of cash for any loco, but then again detail will be a revelation for anyone who hasn’t bought a new loco for 20 or 30 years. So I’m looking forward to getting my first new locos on retirement in a couple of years. Then again, it’s around the price of a full 80 litres of diesel for my VW T4, so…
Yay another modern image loco, 3 out of 4 OO loco reviews you've done this year were of diesels or electrics, so nice to see something other than British steam. Please try to keep this up Sam. 😉 Now Kelly will come and kill me lol.
Hi Sam, when Bachmann comes out with the Daylight Special starter train set, (item 00776) will you do a review to see if Bachmann have done any updates on the GS4 Southern Pacific Daylight? It was that orange red and black split chassis locomotive You did a review on several years ago. I'd love to see you do a review on the set.
Awesome review, Sam. From what I’ve heard about Dapol in the past, they have come quite a way to being one of the top brands in the hobby. In my opinion anyway. Oh how Hornby have fallen… A loco built in America for the British market… if the same was true about the model, that would be an interesting parallel 🤔 37:25 Such a shame your Rapido saddletank just vanished without a trace 😆
The first 59 had a (non-functioning) bell fitted to one end. I don't understand the U.S. fascination with bells. We've had EMD 567s and 645s running here in Australia for years, and those make a racket that drowns *anything* out :P That GM howl is something to hear on a coal train heading up-hill late at night :P
@@thhseeking Hello, reasons for bells on US Railroads. Safety, Railroad Operating Rules, used in Quite Zones (crossings) when horns are not permitted. lawyers love it when a bell was not used in a quite zone after an accident.
I have two which I ordered it seams like years ago when first announced, I did at first order the sound and smoke version but changed my mind and just got dcc fitted versions instead and I am glad I did as I've seen a example of the smoke fitted version and tbh not impressed with the smoke at all
Hi Sam, second loco review for a loco that will (eventually) be part of my N gauge fleet, albeit in the livery 59201 was delivered in. Incidentally this loco would have been built in London, Ontario Canada, rather than the USA. I was interested to note both front lights coming on in forwards on analogue. On DCC there have been noted issues with only one coming on, like other diesel classes but not this one. Wondering if that logic chip has some errors. A few shouts for “odd one out”, but I am going to go for the GWR railcar at the bottom of Gordon’s Hill.
On the subject of your silver bullet wagons. I bought eight of them last year. When I fitted Kadee couplings to them I noticed that on four of them the couplings were not self centring. On further inspection I noticed that the coupling brackets were fitted upside down so the centring springs were not connected. Hope that this helps.
Hi Sam, i was wondering if you could take a look at one of Hornby's retoolled Class 43 Hsts. I've watched many reviews of them and they are apparently fantastic when it comes to detail and running. I hope you take this recommendation into account, thank you.
Great review Sam. But to be honest if mine had glue or a dodgy light they would have been sent back. If we keep hold of faulry goods then they will still keep on selling them and not sorting out the QC side of things.
Watching Everard Junction's video does show that for me whilst this is a great model for those who don't know a lot about the prototype this leaves a lot to fix for those who know more. Some of the quality really is lacking and feels much more of a railroad model. Would be much more comfortable with an RRP towards say £140. Great video and thanks for the close ups.
One fun fact about the Class 59 is that it was based on the EMD SD40-2, which were for many years considered the "gold standard" for locomotives here in the US.
Also Danish engine drivers look back with fondness at the Class MZ, another SD40 derivative, similar to this but prettier :) They never failed..Many of them are still in operation with other railways.
Another fun fact, Muncie Indiana is the favourite holiday destination of Pawnee Indiana mayor Jerry/Garry/Larry/Terry Gergich.
@@gdwnet No, the Class 66 is the one that came after this, and was basically an upgraded Class 59 (with a newer prime mover, among other things). The Class 66, I believe, is more similar to an SD60 or SD70, IIRC.
Here in Australia we have 90 classes wich are basically SD60s in an Australian body built in Canada
@@skuula we have MZs in Australia they are my favourite locomotives although sadly they're banned from entering the state I live in and they only really run in southern new south Wales and around Sydney both places I never go
Dapol's quality control has seemed to increase a lot recently. I wonder if this is going to be a turning point for the company, dare I say, reaching the same standards as Rapido!
Great video and loco sam!
Definitely - their last few locos have been much better built and designed too!
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Agreed. My last acquisitions from them are superb models, with zero problems running them (two class 35 and two class 22 in N, a 9F and a Britannia are expected by now). They are on the run for taking the position of Hornby in the UK model trains market.
I thought they always had good quality, but I am new to the BR region of this hobby.Was the manor the start of an increase in quality control?
😮 I don’t know what you want me know when you have time and we could meet you somewhere in town
Bought 2 of these before watching your review and I’m really happy with them. Whilst the speed at 50% in your video demonstrates to be quite slow, as you mentioned it has the capacity to run quite a lot faster which is how I run them with a long rake of wagons. Another great review Sam
To be honest, if a company wants to save a little money, I'd rather them cut costs on documentation and keep the model at a higher quality. It seems Dapol have cut costs with the documentation in this one, but overall the model seems to be pretty decent. I know it doesn't match Accura, but it also doesn't match the price of Accura either :). I think this is quite good for the price point. :)
Great review Sam. I have the sound version of the DB 59 and it’s absolutely fantastic. The speakers that dapol supply in the sound versions are not your typical sugarcube or anything but are large bassy speakers that suit the 59 perfectly. As for the Lima version you mentioned and ran, Hornby have been producing a model of the Lima 59 pretty much since Hornby bought Lima all those years ago. Obviously they have updated the model in areas such as a better motor with more pickups, NEM couplings on the newer versions and slightly better decoration. Detail though is exactly the same. They are 8 pin DCC ready also
Looks good, a great improvement of the hornby/lima 59 that's been the modeller's only option for the last 3(?) decades. Also looks comparable to the bachmann 66s, although slightly better, and better quality than the similarly priced Hattons 66s.
I might consider one, although I have no idea which. I have the hornby model of 59001 in Aggregate Industries livery, so I'll probably get a /1 or a /2 in a livery not carried by any other mainline class, although 003 in GBRf is tempting me a lot too.
The 59s have a top speed of 60mph, which they regularly run at with heavy trains, so since most modellers run trains at greater than 50% speed, this is absolutely fine. The 66s used the 59 bodyshell to push them into service very quickly (18 months between the first batch order and the first being delivered), but they were quite different internally, sacrificing torque for speed since most 66s run at 75mph (although some, like the freightliner /6s, are geared for 60mph so they can haul heavier loads).
59/2s are 75mph. 66/6s are 65mph. I drive them both.
Hi Sam, I recently started watching your channel. Happy that I came across same and thanks for the info you provide. In this particular one, you were being very kind to Dapol. I did not like the paint work at all. On one side the SHENKER has a bad N with the right corner having extra paint making it pretty wide! It is almost like the paint dripped and created a smudge. There were several other places where the surface under the paint was not smoothed out etc. Even if the price is low, the paint job has to be clean... in my opinion.
Enjoy the channel. Will catch up with the rest of them.
Thanks and regards.
Ananda from the Bay area US
Sam, I've gotta say thank you for your good honest review from the unboxing to the conclusion. I've seen some reviews of this loco and that a person went full ham and made it out to be a Buyers Beware. He literally kit bashed it right out of the box and "fixed-it" his name is Richard at Everard Junction. He said he had rewired it, did some body corrections and did some paint corrections. I didn't see what the model looked like before right out of the box on his channel though. He also did that to a Heljan model prior to that and said "it wasn't worthy of a review on his layout" out of the box. Therefore we didn't hear or see a proper review until after he hastily corrected it. Thank's again Sam!
This new Class 59 diesel locomotive from Dapol is very nice. Even though it may not have that much detail but it is decent and reasonably priced Sam. It is a perfect budget model.
I have not purchased the Dapol class 59 but have a number of their class 68 which in my personal opinion is one of the best diesel loco models avaliable today. May look to buy Class 59 in GBRf livery later in the year as have other preferable models I am looking to purchase or have on order for the first half of the year.
The DB a logo looks awfully applied. Unless the N is supposed to look that blobbed? 13:47
when I saw those things under the bogies, I thought, "Surely Sam hasn't brought a 3 rail loco" lol
Here! That giant brakeman is giving the finger to that loco.
The EMD HT-C (High Traction - Co) trucks on this model are the only trucks I have ever seen on an HO/OO model locomotive which have rotating bearing end caps!!! NICE!!!
Sam, I am really enjoying the 4k video quality. Its a very nice upgrade for your channel.👍
Great video Sam! As a long time fan of the class 59 i was very pleased to finally see the release of these models. however one thing that does bother me is the height of the silencer (the big silver metal thing on the roof). As on the real thing it hangs lower than the roof, but on the model it raises above it. Not a major problem but you would've thought they would've realized it in the designing stage. unless they assumed it would've been the same as the 66s! Those lights do also look a little scruffy, but all round the model does look nice. Thanks for sharing
One of the buffers is wonky, the one at the non-kinematic end. To me it stands out like dog's...um...I think you have the same expression in the U.K. :P
Good review but you need to compare this Dapol Class 59 with the Hattons Class 66, that will give you a truer indication of how things have moved on because the detail on the Hattons 66 is beyond what Dapol have produced here.
The cab doors opening is a useless feature because it creates a massive gap between the doors & the loco body which isn't prototypical.
For me the Dapol Class 59 is low rent compared to the Hattons 66 and don't forget the Hattons 66 was only £150 RRP regardless of the issues that transpired post release and certainly hope Hattons do a batch 2 fixing those issues.
This is a good model but not great, remember that exhaust system sits proud of the body which is a fail.
Hi Sam, another fair and frank review of an excellent addition to the motive power fraternity.
I have the National Power one.
Tell you what, it's solidly made. All of those additional 'separately fitted' items actually stay there - my A/S Deltic has moulted parts like a Persian cat does fur in Summer!!
I've had the body off perhaps 5 times and no collateral damage at all - which is unusual with the 'latest additions' available nowadays.
Al.
Great video and review Sam ,this Dapol 59 looks great with what seems like a affordable price also I like that dapol VTG wagon which also include 4 representions of rolled sheet metal .. just for interest going back to around 2012 you could pick up a Bachmann 66 from hattons for around £55
Great review Sam!
Might have to get me hands on one of these!
Stay safe mate :)
If you got the Track Sam, you should of tested to see if it actually goes on the R1 Track by doing a small layout of the Radius 1 & see the results for yourself!!! 😉🤔🚂🚂🚂
Just bought one of these locos, will be doing some extra additions such as fitting some bufferbeam detailing to one end and acquiring an ESU Loksound V5 from Roads & Rails.
I must say that Dapol have actually done a decent job with this loco, I just don't like the rather artificial looking headlights and the rather pointless cab doors which don't even open at all and an extremely plain looking cab. Apart from that it's definitely a welcome addition and finally replaces the outdated Hornby/Ex-Lima tooling model!
Well I will say your half right on the class history as the class 59 like the 66 was built in both Canada (London, Ontario) and the USA (La Grange, Illinois)
Hi Sam, great review of a cool looking loco, i do like a lot of Dapol"s wagons.
A thorough fair review, great video. I might get one of these as it'll just at a stretch fit in my era window, I love the ARC livery version.
While not my interest, I am hopping Dapols O gauge Class 66 (the successor of the 66 sort of will be of good detail) will be good. I do hope you review one Sam.
I remember seeing Class 66's parked outside of the former EMD plant in London Ontario. It's a shame that the plant got shut down by CAT.
Strait forward quality and good value for he money. What more can one ask ? A modern heavy duty loc that will do its job on the model railway. Well done Dapol !! Thanks for sharing Sam. All the best, Filip
Awesome! Looks like a great model. Picked up a Hornby Mallard today for £70. Also, are you gonna review Hornbys super detailed teakss?
Thanks! Yeah it sure is - and that's a great deal! I might do yes :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Born and raised in America and I have a fondness for the American styles of locomotives. But this one is something I really like. Just like the class 8 shunter. Is there a D in there somewhere? I just may have to come up with a plausible explanation and back story to get one for my model railroad...
Fairly decent for the money, but not sure if Dapol’s class 59 would make it passed our assessment tbh. The engineering of the bogey internals would be an immediate no-no (clipped and no bearings in 2023...?). Some niggles we could perhaps live with, e.g. the exhaust unit sitting too high compared to the prototype and sloppy fitting of the cab grill..., but then the enormous seams around the doors would really annoy us too much. The latter evidently because they can open, but we’d rather not have that design at all tbh since they make those rather nasty unrealistic gap around them. Overall, certainly somewhat decent value, but those bogey internals... Not quite keen on that... Cheerio.
If so, then it’s an interesting (re)design, as the SD 40-2, like most locomotives for the North American rail network, were single-ended; with a cab, a short nose (hood), and a long hood. Most ran short hood forward, but some railroads like to run them long hood forward, in case of a crash at a grade crossing. So I wonder if they (EMD) lengthened the frame to make room for a cab on the other end, or if they used a smaller diesel engine, and just crammed all the internals forward to make room?
Fitted with a V16, 66s have a V12 but both produce the same power.
👍It might be silly , but I do enjoy the "slicker" manual. Part of the experience such as proper packaging, graphics ,the unboxing , a detail bag , etc . (I know ).
Warley version did seem speedier .
Good one Sam , Thanks !
If you think the slightly opening doors are cool, you should check out a Proto 2000 E8 or PA
The odd one out is the Class 128, since it was manufactured by Heljan and not Dapol.
Cheers.
I quite like the crayon diagram. Shows the effort the kids put in at the factory, I mean adults
You have to do something with those urchins, you can't have them going around "picking a pocket or two" and asking for "more" :P
I'd really love one of these in Yeoman colors. Unfortunately, that would require a full rake of hoppers to go with it, and THAT I can't afford. :/
The color is butiful Sammy!!
About you said you were thinking of putting a loop or two of N gauge track inside your TT gauge ovals on your layout, have you thought of using flex-track for the curves, Atlas and I think Peco make flex-track in N gauge, and like I said before get the N gauge track in code 80
33:39 Note the passenger on the platform who is absolutely knocked out by the performance... 😉
Great review Sam, nice model train 👍
Good one sam. I hope their Manor class is on good par with Accurascales.
Eleo Sam. What a beautiful train. I still got to send u my pic of my layout. Anyway ur so awesome. And I had to fix my Henry cause the pick ups were causing issues and and I just added wires to only in the drive wheel and took off the pick ups and only used the wires to the motor and it worked after that but it can only use 2 wheels to work not all 3
Hi Sam, Nice review, I wouldn't turn it down , looks a good engine, (can't afford the price these days 🙂) All the best Brian 😃
I never bother to watch Sam's reviews, as he always puts his conclusions in the title. Saves me loads of time.
Glad to have saved you some time! If “great value” is all you need to know, great 😁
Awesome video today Sam beautiful modle am going to a modle train show tomorrow can’t wait
WOW! Amazing locomotive! Keep it up! I have a question, how do you become a channel member? Is it a private thing or is it public. Please answer my question, reply if you can! Thanks, I love your videos, your the best!
I Love that finish and color. I believe it's spot on. Really Beautiful. Nice video Sam!
Looks good and appears to run smoothly....
The void between the bogie and body is quite noticeable, not sure if that's prototypical
If you had the money to review a trix class 66, which is Ho and Dcc sound with smoke would be interesting
Best Model Train Reviewer on RUclips. Keep up the great work!
great vid Sam! will you be looking at any OO9 items or is that planned for the far future ?
It's a shame that there is some easy to fix downsides on this engine (bogies conception, ease of opening, even if far better than anything from Heljan, instruction manual) because everything else is spot on for the price. And, as with recent Dapol models (including N scale ones, I'm happy with my class 22 and 35 !), it's not overspeeding. Halve the weight by removing every diecast you can, remove the little nice details like the opening doors and the rotating axleboxes, replace etched grills by molded ones, simplify to the bare minimum the lighting (white forward, red backwards, and go flux yourself for anything else), put an anemic motor without flywheel geared for an HST, and sell it GBP 220 retailer's price : now, you have an Hornby model...
It's not an ultra top level model, but the price is not ultra top level too : looks nice, works fine, and does not require to sign for a mortgage to buy one. If you are in modern engines in OO, it's a must have. Some downs, but nothing that is a no-go considering the price. You can't remove from me the idea that Dapol is becoming a major player in the market, at the detriment of Bachmann and Hornby. If I would model UK trains in this scale and period, I would certainly buy one on the spot.
Sam I like this class of diesel and the details are good but I have problem with the livery to me it looks very toy like . You look at other manufacturers livery’s are so much vivid . The rest of details are fine. The most important thing to me will be how long it will last before having a problem like a few of my Dapol engines that have failed. Great review Sam.
Great review here am, must admit I was surprised t see you get the db version, I thought you would have gone for one of the different ones, I have the db version myself and to be honest I have mixed emotions about it, I’m very happy to finally have a class 59 in my fleet but there are a few things that I don’t like, one thing that I don’t like is the flickering lights on dc power which happens at low speed, also one of the lights doesn’t work on mine but I can forgive that because it’s on the ed where stock is going to be coupled up to, must admit while I have had mixed emotions about this db version I am thinking of picking up the EWS one that dapol announced recently.
Thanks a lot David - yeah I thought it was a bit different! Ahh interesting - I didn't really notice much flickering but I guess you're right looking at the footage. The EWS one sure does look good! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
@@SamsTrains the lights tend to flicker when I’m running the locomotive at slow speed which is annoying because I have locomotives that I can run at slow speed and they don’t have any flickering lights, it most likely would improve if I had dcc but I don’t have dcc.
I think I get an ARC one as a 59/1. Would be interesting to see your review of the Cavalex Models Class 60 when it comes out in 2024 Sam. In truth, Dapol models are not expected to be another Accurascale but they are better made than the tosh I was given by Hornby in exchange for my hard earned money. I will get a Dapol Class 59 as it is superior to the older Lima model that Hornby charge for that is not much cheaper than this.
Enjoyed your review. Of the four produced by Dapol, the DB is the one I did not purchase. I obtained the sound versions with the NP version with smoke. The sound versions are amazing.
Probably one of the more interesting units considering it’s coming from the us, I do find the db branding a bit odd, did it run in the ui or Germany? Either way very nice review
There’s a controversy going on with TT:120 set curves. Have you experienced any issues?
Thanks Sam, balanced review as ever. I have a sound and smoke on order so keen to see what you have to say 👍
Great video Sam, is the odd one out the GWR diesel railcar?
Hi Sam. Great review as always. Even though this model doesn't have the bells and whistles of the Accurascale model, for the price you do get what you pay for. It does have a lot going for it. I might be able to afford it one day! Either eat or buy this! Lol. Very good product from Dapol. Best, Pete.
NIce video as always and yes hornby do make the class 59 in the past history.
Hi Sam. You said that the loco had no bearings. Wouldn't the axle boxes be within a bushing - a kind of bearing?
I have one of these and ran it in yesterday. I have no complaints except maybe that coupling that is pointing down. I would rate it a bit higher than you and I think it is fairer to compare it to the Hornby 59 and maybe the Bachmann 66.
Sam, the class 59 has been in Hornbys catalogue for the past few years...
« It’s not going to blow you away at £150… »
For « oldies » like me, £150 seems an awful lot of cash for any loco, but then again detail will be a revelation for anyone who hasn’t bought a new loco for 20 or 30 years. So I’m looking forward to getting my first new locos on retirement in a couple of years. Then again, it’s around the price of a full 80 litres of diesel for my VW T4, so…
I have a hornby railroad one of these, its quite cool
Sam now that you have a DCC controller will you be updating some of your locos to DCC
Yay another modern image loco, 3 out of 4 OO loco reviews you've done this year were of diesels or electrics, so nice to see something other than British steam. Please try to keep this up Sam. 😉
Now Kelly will come and kill me lol.
haha I know - just the way it's turned out! More steam coming soon :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
Not a problem for me, just the scale... I'm buying my UK diesels in N scale, even if I have some in OO too.
Is Dapol a good brand like Accurascale or Bachman?
Amazing class 59 sam!
Hi Sam, when Bachmann comes out with the Daylight Special starter train set, (item 00776) will you do a review to see if Bachmann have done any updates on the GS4 Southern Pacific Daylight? It was that orange red and black split chassis locomotive You did a review on several years ago. I'd love to see you do a review on the set.
Great review as always Sam . . . Any chance of a review of Electrotren loco's?
Awesome review, Sam. From what I’ve heard about Dapol in the past, they have come quite a way to being one of the top brands in the hobby. In my opinion anyway. Oh how Hornby have fallen…
A loco built in America for the British market… if the same was true about the model, that would be an interesting parallel 🤔
37:25 Such a shame your Rapido saddletank just vanished without a trace 😆
The first 59 had a (non-functioning) bell fitted to one end. I don't understand the U.S. fascination with bells. We've had EMD 567s and 645s running here in Australia for years, and those make a racket that drowns *anything* out :P That GM howl is something to hear on a coal train heading up-hill late at night :P
@@thhseeking Hello, reasons for bells on US Railroads. Safety, Railroad Operating Rules, used in Quite Zones (crossings) when horns are not permitted. lawyers love it when a bell was not used in a quite zone after an accident.
Knowing you. Surprised you missed the dodgy N in the Schenker on the side
The N in SCHENKER needs some attention.
I have two which I ordered it seams like years ago when first announced, I did at first order the sound and smoke version but changed my mind and just got dcc fitted versions instead and I am glad I did as I've seen a example of the smoke fitted version and tbh not impressed with the smoke at all
Thanks Sam for a great review. Could this be the first time ever a manufacturer had got the right gearing for the right loco? Regards Terry.
Awesome. thanks for the straight forward review. 👍
Hi Sam, second loco review for a loco that will (eventually) be part of my N gauge fleet, albeit in the livery 59201 was delivered in.
Incidentally this loco would have been built in London, Ontario Canada, rather than the USA.
I was interested to note both front lights coming on in forwards on analogue. On DCC there have been noted issues with only one coming on, like other diesel classes but not this one. Wondering if that logic chip has some errors.
A few shouts for “odd one out”, but I am going to go for the GWR railcar at the bottom of Gordon’s Hill.
On the subject of your silver bullet wagons. I bought eight of them last year. When I fitted Kadee couplings to them I noticed that on four of them the couplings were not self centring. On further inspection I noticed that the coupling brackets were fitted upside down so the centring springs were not connected. Hope that this helps.
How come the big diesels always have clips and not screws?
Cheers Jasper & Willow
haha that's a good point - I don't know ;D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I'm not a big fan of diesels but great review Sam ;)
Cheers Jasper & Willow
Thanks guys, glad you liked it! :D
Thanks for watching - Sam :)
I’d send that back. The glued grills on the ends are shocking.
Not to mention the poor paint and tampo printing. The n in schenker is horribly done!
Hi Sam, i was wondering if you could take a look at one of Hornby's retoolled Class 43 Hsts. I've watched many reviews of them and they are apparently fantastic when it comes to detail and running. I hope you take this recommendation into account, thank you.
The Booklet only comes with steam locomotives I think :)
I have heard some feedback that the mechanism in this loco is quite noisy, especially under load
Great review Sam. But to be honest if mine had glue or a dodgy light they would have been sent back. If we keep hold of faulry goods then they will still keep on selling them and not sorting out the QC side of things.
Not sure I agree that the schenker name has been well applied. There is a weird splodge on the "n"
Yeah that’s a fair point - I didn’t spot that!
Good looking loco thanks lee
Watching Everard Junction's video does show that for me whilst this is a great model for those who don't know a lot about the prototype this leaves a lot to fix for those who know more.
Some of the quality really is lacking and feels much more of a railroad model. Would be much more comfortable with an RRP towards say £140.
Great video and thanks for the close ups.
Hornby do a Railroad Class 59. It is upgraded from the Lima version and is better. I paid £50 brand new for mine.
Hey Sam what ITV station did you live through when you were young
Thanks for this, I was going to buy one of these. The cab detail is poor. I would rather spend a bit more coin and get better quality. Cheers.
I think which one it is, the brown, yellow stripped with white top.
I suggest this may be an offspring of Hattons class 66?
Was the odd locomotive a dapol GWR streamlined railcar?
Hola buen dia sam excelente video muy bueno el modelo te mando un abrazo grande y segui asi 😃👍👍👍