Afterlife with Archie is kind of brilliant. One of the biggest problems with horror stories is that you don't know the characters well, while Afterlife with Archie burns through it's cast a bit too fast for a sustained ongoing series, it does a great job of being a solid horror book that builds upon Archie tropes. This is sort of similar to the "Monsters are Real" DTV movies of Scooby and the gang, but obviously with more of a Walking Dead "nothing's ever going to be the same" sense. Indeed, this is such a great story that I kind of wish Riverdale had changed it up and done Afterlife w/ Archie with the same cast for Season 2.. This "mash up" has been done for ages in comic books, but I'd love to see more of it in non-super hero properties like this. Archie: In Space, Scooby Doo: Romance, Dexter's Lab... of horrors.
When everything is a subversion, it stops being a subversion and becomes its own trope. That's what Zack Snyder never understood, and why the DCEU is in the shape it is. Snyder did a great job on Watchmen without realizing the original comics were groundbreaking because it subverted what had been rock-solid, iron-clad tropes up to that time. He then took the same subverted sensibilities and applied them to the DCEU which, instead of being subversive, just became pointlessly and obnoxiously grimdark.
That's the point; if everything is subversion, nothing is subversion. The definition of subversion is what defies expectation. When you subvert everything, it just becomes the new normal. Four colour comics were bright, cheerful, colourful, and optimistic. It's why people liked them. Snyder's new "normal" was the inversion of that, with a washed out colour pallette and grim, gritty tone -- and people dislike it. Just because you enjoy some mustard on your burger doesn't mean you want a plate full of mustard.
@@thomasstull868 LOL. No it definitely applies to Batman vs Superman. The Last Jedi's problem wasn't the subversion, hell if anything that was the good part of that movie. The problem was the writing to get us to the subversion, characters making nonsensical decisions, the whole space casino visit, the pointless chase through the city, or even how they just dial up Maz out of nowhere for access to a 'code breaker" which is something a military outfit should already have access to. And that's not even getting into the idea of keeping soldiers out of the loop just because or the iffy nature of the light speed jump following technology. Or the stakes for the whole thing being "we're running out of gas". In short they could have brought the whole thing together in a much more cohesive and human way just by having there be a traitor in their ranks and that traitor be Rose. Del Toro would have been her opposite number in the First Order and when they meet, the reveal being that it was her sister dying at the beginning, even brings it full circle with us the audience realizing that she realized too late that actions have consequences. And it would have rang all the more true for Del Toro's character to give that speech about it just being an unending cycle with the First order and the Rebellion, thus being a literal bit of symbolism about the struggles of the light and dark sides of the Force. Which at this point would be Ray and Kylo respectively as Kylo proved himself dark lord by killing his master as every apprentice must and Ray being what's left after Luke sacrificed himself to give the galaxy an undying hope.
I never read Archie comics as a child, and my first experience with Archie comics was Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, followed by Jughead The Hunger, Chilling Adventures In Sorcery, Vampironica, and most recently Afterlife With Archie. So for me they are not subverted or dark-edgy-grim versions of the characters, they are just the characters, and I love them! 😍 I also loved Zack Snyder's DCEU vision. I just like dark things, is that a problem? 😝
Just wanted to say thanks for getting me into Archie Horror. I picked up a few single issues of some of these books but it wasn't till your video that I picked up all the trades. The art and atmosphere is stunning. And now the Sabrina show is on just in time.
Worth mentioning that my first exposure to Roberto Aguirre-Sacassa was his comic book adaptation of Stephen King’s The Stand. So, triply perfect guy to write this series.
No mention of the original Vampironica story from the back of Cherry Poptart #1? That comic there prepped me at a young age for all the horror books of late.
I don't follow Archie anything. However, the horror books are pure dynamite. If the Sabrina show stay faithful to the material it will be a smash, runaway hit.
Haven't read them but of course I started hearing more and more about Archie's bizarre revival over the past few years. I knew it was kind of cool when they featured The Ramones on one cover. Still having no idea of the backstory of the guy who updated and revived the whole line...the whole thing is amazing! From cease-and-desist in Atlanta to given the keys to the whole saccharine Archie kingdom. Holy shit!
Man I don't think I'll ever actually read this series, but your synopsis of the various plot points--Jughead leader of zombies, incestuous relationship ending in inevitable Greek tragedy, and H.P. Lovecraft!? What a wildly imaginative and fertile series,
The quality of your show is disproportionate to your amount of viewers and subscribers. You are great man! Keep going!!! Finding your show was a great gift!
Awesome vid, Chris! This video blows my mind. I had absolutely no idea that Archie comics even ventured into territory beyond comedy and gags, other than the death of Archie which my daughter had mentioned to me a few years back. I may have to check the zombie storyline out...sounds intriguing. Thanks for posting this.
Enjoyed the review. As a guy I often felt embarrassed by my enjoyment of Archie, but I think DeCarlo is a great, under-rated artist. Those 60s/70s issues are so great to look at. Yeah, the stories are ridiculous, but visually they are so much fun. I always enjoyed them as a kind of pallet-cleaner between issues of Daredevil
Also I've never seen manga utilized in Free Comic Book day. It's such an enlightened choice that Boku No Hero was given that treatment/exposure (not that it needed it) given it's American superhero sensibilities/aesthetic
Afterlife with Archie and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina are both amazing but it's been years since a new release. Jughead the Hunger and Vampironica are both great too!
Its taken me many years to really appreciate Archie. Probably the most popular character in light humoured comics ever. However giving it a different twist in later Archie comics was a right move to do.
My guy I love everything about your channel (that "cold" open was adorable) I came in as an Archie fan and an Archie horror fan/enthusiast and yet I learned so much from this. It brightened my day. Even though the views are low keep doing stuff like this. It's an absolute pleasure.
Your laudatory speech, in addition of seeing some of the panels, convinced me. They communicate a lot through the brooding atmosphere of the red tinted lighting. I can see the influence of Pet Sematary, among other zombie movies. Thanks for your insight about some comics I, a frenchman, can't really know since they aren't distributed overseas.
I originally bought my first Archie Horror titles as the Jughead Werewolf VS. Veronica Vampire mini series. Just today I found the Jughead The Hunger Volume 2 collection in store. Decided to buy all 3 The Hunger Volumes as ebooks.
While I've always had a fondness for the "classic" Archie comics, I may have to give these horror comics a try. After seeing this video, they look pretty cool!
MAD magazine even did a spoof on the "what if Archie married..."- line with Archie dating Jughead. That one was funny! XD It's still feels really weird seeing Archie in different art style and in a more serious tone, I'm more used to the original comics and the 90's cartoon-version. Same thing with Sabrina, so weird seeing a more serious version of it and I'm more used to the sitcom version (had no idea that Sabrina: The Teenage Witch was based on a comic and that it took place in the Archie-verse back then).
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The Afterlife with Archie is the only one I read, but I got Sabrina in a recent Humble Bundle, and I want to say that the infrequent schedule isn't that much of a problem. The issues, while telling a continuous story, are done-in-ones and pretty dense. Each one is a satisfactory piece in itself and even if they might never continue them, this shouldn't make people afraid to read them. Although there are some big twists and mysteries, they're much more honest than The Walking Dead, which maintains lots of momentum with last page reveals.
Great episode! Have you ever considered doing an episode about Femforce? It’s by AC comics and is still running but I’ve never really heard much about it.
I really really loved the Afterlife with Archie until the insane delays made me lose interest. I honestly can’t remember the plot anymore. I distinctly remember enjoying it so much. I may revisit it someday.
The "Archie's Weird Mysteries" show was basically a precursor to how Archie Horror is today, and it was many peoples (including me) introduction to the spooky side of Archie n the gang & riverdale
This looks really interesting, I'll have to check them out 👍 Your channel will keep growing I think, your passion and knowledge for the medium really comes across in these videos
Thanks for this informative video. I have been interested in these comics for a while. I love Sabrina and Riverdale is amazing too. Defiantly gonna check these out now. Going to Fayetteville Comic-Con tomorrow, gonna try to find some of these, thanks again.
The Josie and the Pussycats movie was surprisingly funny. I don't always think horror always works in comics outside of existential dread as opposed to jump scares. I like the two timelines story.
Great review on the Archie Horror comics! Have you considered reading or reviewing the Betty & Veronica comics by Adam Hughes? Now there's some incredible art!
Ah i remember my 1st Archie experience.... it was at my Gradeschool library... and Jughead... selling his only feature keeping him alive at this point... to a witch
My problem with the Archie horror line is that it's a part of this recent trend of making adult twists on stuff we read and watched as kids. Scooby Doo gang vs the apocalypse. A mature take on the Flintstones. Blade Runner style Jetsons. Wacky Races mixed with Mad Max. On and on. What's next, Casper merged with the Exorcist? Wendy: Demon Hunter? I'm tired of seeing beloved childhood properties turned into grimdark and gory stuff: there's nothing wrong with things being lighthearted and fun. The best thing I've read from Archie recently is their update of The Fox, a hero from Archie's superhero line Red Circle, which they've seemingly abandoned. It was actually fun, something comics don't really seem to do anymore.
@@waterking74 If you like it, fine, but that doesn't make it better. Also, making dark & twisted versions of normally fun and silly things isn't different or original; tons of comic book publishers have done the same.
I agree for the most part, but the new Flintstones comic is fantastic. The cartoon became more and more aimed at children as it went along, but at its inception it was supposed to be a satirical take on modern life meant for adults, which the new comic captures brilliantly.
I never read Archie comics as a child, and my first experience with Archie comics was Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, followed by Jughead The Hunger, Chilling Adventures In Sorcery, Vampironica, and most recently Afterlife With Archie. So for me they are not subverted or dark-edgy-grim versions of the characters, they are just the characters, and I love them! 😍
I'd actually argue that Archie started that trend. I'd say the only reason DC started doing those Hanna Barbara series was because of the Life with Archie/Afterlife with Archie's surprise success. The regular Archie (New Riverdale) title is very much in a "young adult" vein and there are still the Classic Archie style comics being produced as well so they're doing something for everyone. I'd say that the imaginative use of their IP has tapped into new markets and demographics that probably never would have gotten into Archie. I loved Archie as a kid and those digests were the first comic books I read as they were right in the check out aisle at the grocery store and in the few spinner racks there were left at the time, but its not something I'd gone back to in decades. Being in my mid-40s, like every other aging Gen-Xer out there, I feel awash in nostalgia as every piece of corporate IP of my youth is updated and released to pull cash out of the wallets of 40-60 year olds with disposable income. This has all been a big gamble for Archie but seems to have paid off. Fortunately, they were super lucky to end up with Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa who turned to be a pretty good writer and hit the jackpot with Francesco Francavilla as he really started hit it big. I admire them for taking chances. A lot of what makes these new stories work is the nostalgia associated with Archie and the very classic character templates honed by the simple comic strip-style stories told over the decades. I wouldn't say any of the Hanna Barbara stuff is necessarily dark (nowhere near as dark as Afterlife with Archie). I also wouldn't say the bulk of it has been very good. The Flintstones and Snagglepuss Chronicles have been more standout exceptions rather than the norm. The Dastardly & Muttly took a pretty dark turn at the end but it was written by Garth Ennis so that was not unexpected. I do find it interesting that, even with the critical success of Mark Russell's Flinstones and Snagglepuss, the only one of those titles that has had the most staying power is the terrible Scooby Apocalypse comic penned by a couple of 60+ year olds and, since they backed off from the more realistic art style, is the only one that is still ongoing at 30 issues. As with all comics, if you don't like it, don't read it. There's something for everyone.
Great episode! Truthfully I loved Archie Comics but I haven't picked up one in years I was aware of this horror series didn't think much of it but since you're giving it such a good review I'll definitely go and check some of it out( especially vamperonica not to be TMI guy but I swear to God I had a half dream / fantasy of that exact thing only with Betty as well when I was a kid, maybe the only time I found vampires sexy( I had a few years to go before Melinda May in Lifeforce!) lol). Thanks.
one of the first ways i read comics was by way of my sister's archie comics,.....(loved those giant annuals from the 60s,....) so, i am fairly familiar w/the archie characters,.....riverdale, etc. so, i had 1 strike starting out. then, they hire francavilla for the art duties and he does the interior and cover. franca's art is dramatic w lots of black, halftones and intense colors,......strike two. then the story was sound and well crafted #3. i liked the book alot and would recommend buying it, its a way to take some classic characters and put a different spin on them plus francavilla does the entire interior, a rarity these days as hes more of a cover artist now.
5:30 - completely agree. they are damn good stories - a great take on the archieverse (btw not an adult fan of archie - last read them when i was about 11)
You never had to know decades of Archie continuity, because the classic Archie material was basically just self-contained jokes and humor, with the occasional mystery-type story. Just about any issue would let you know who the characters were and their relationships. But while it's nice to see what they're doing with the new stuff, you completely overlooked their 70s attempt at horror. Under the Red Circle Comics imprint, *Chilling Adventures in Sorcery as Told by Sabrina* kicked off in October of 1973. What was funny was even though they were trying to tell weirder stories, they were still done in the Archie house style of art. But with the third issue, they gave that up, dropped Sabrina as host, and Gray Morrow became editor, and also drew most of the stories, which were now more typical of the type of horror stories DC and Marvel were doing in the early 70s. With issue #6, they changed the title to *Red Circle Sorcery.* Alas, they cancelled it with issue #11. But it was fun while it lasted. In the 80's they used the Red Circle imprint to re-use their Golden Age and Silver Age superheroes, like The Black Hood, The Shield, The Fly, The Mighty Crusaders, etc. As far as I know, Archie's Red Circle imprint had no relation to the Red Circle Comics published in the 1940s by Rural Home/Croydon Publications. comicbookplus.com/?cid=1019
When Archie comics recently published the trade paperback of Chilling Adventures In Sorcery vol 1, I purchased it, and it was brilliant! I really hope they publish vol 2, and I would love to see a new ongoing series of it with Sabrina back as the host, but done in a style similar to Bernie Wrightson's art.
I like afterlife alot, chilling tales is good too, but it's alot darker. I'd give my younger cousins afterlife to read and spook them maybe, but chilling tales is a little more mature. either way, both are great. I'm looking forward to catching up on jughead the hunger.
You didn't bring up the actual best subversion of Archie, Criminal volume 6, The Last of the Innocent. Took the horror but gave it back to real life. They changed all the names, but I like Criminal better than Afterlife.
The attraction of these series is the wholesome Archie brand juxtaposed with these horrific events. AWA and CAOS were good, but I don't think the enthusiasm for the "Archie Edgelord" era will last.
I never read Archie comics as a child, and my first experience with Archie comics was Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, followed by Jughead The Hunger, Chilling Adventures In Sorcery, Vampironica, and most recently Afterlife With Archie. So for me they are not subverted or dark-edgy-grim versions of the characters, they are just the characters, and I love them! 😍
"I think the Archie Comics yes should have changes but, it depends what those changes are having the characters age is alright but I think they should always stay a humorous comic series and stay away from dramatic stories,the horror storylines only if they have humorous stories, But....the After Life comics,No I didn't like that, the current series haven't seen it because it just didn't have an appeal to it for me, the Kevin Keller character & stories they are okay to a certain extent, But.... All comics have changed From Superheroes to other genres,DC,Marvel,&Etcetera, good or bad,its all out of the hands of the fans, we fans just have either like it or not,that's LIFE R.I.P. Stan Lee, &: as for Bill Maher he can just mind his own business, have a great new year,thanks.
I found Afterlife with Archie to just be rather mean and miserable. I don't care for it, but mazeltov if anyone else likes it. Not my cuppa. Really, none of the modern Archie output, from this stuff, to the modern Archie books to Riverdale is for me.
I have. Herogasm is part of the overall Boys... experience, and the initial Crossed mini was pretty dreadful, imo. Both books are quite mean spirited (even if Boys does have a heart in it somewhere. I'm never quite sure what to make of the series as a whole, because I actually quite like some of it, but find the rest of it to be pretty eye-rollingly dumb and gross). They don't, however, star the fun loving teens of everyone's childhood since the 1940s. I don't want to read about Archie having to decide whether or not he has to cave in his zombie dad's brain with a baseball bat. It's not my thing.
Please, Chris - start putting the names in a separate bag/box as the Gatchapons, some of those slips of paper must fall between the Gatchapons, am I the only one with OCD thinking that alters the winner?? Keep up the great work!
Tales from the Crypt, Vault of Horror, House of Secrets, House of Mystery, Creepy, Eerie, Vampirella, Chilling Adventures In Sorcery, The Creeps, The Crow, Spawn, Darkchylde, Witchblade, The Darkness, The Walking Dead, Dead-Man, Sandman, there are so many good horror comics out there.
Does anyone remember Archies Weird Mysteries. the cartoon? That was actually my exposure to Archie, loved it.
I remember. I loved it.
I remember not knowing that Archie was something outside of that cartoon for years.
i do
I remember
I picked up the entire series on dvd for 5 bucks!
both Afterlife and Chilling Adventures are brilliant series, just slow...as hell.
When I was a kid, we had Christian Archie comics...those were kinda weird, too
Spire Christian Comics published those. :)
They sold them at the sewing shop
Where can I get the damn Sabrina Cthulhu issues?
They never put anymore in Afterlife
That issue was fantastic!
There's only one Sabrina Cthulhu issue so far. You can get it through comixology or other comic book stores.
That would be a dream.
I would never in a million years believe that an Archie comic could be a good read, but now I’m intrigued. Nice video.
The Mark Waid run is pretty good but not like the show.
If you can get past the rough art, Sabrina the Magic Within is also a good read.
Afterlife with Archie is kind of brilliant. One of the biggest problems with horror stories is that you don't know the characters well, while Afterlife with Archie burns through it's cast a bit too fast for a sustained ongoing series, it does a great job of being a solid horror book that builds upon Archie tropes. This is sort of similar to the "Monsters are Real" DTV movies of Scooby and the gang, but obviously with more of a Walking Dead "nothing's ever going to be the same" sense.
Indeed, this is such a great story that I kind of wish Riverdale had changed it up and done Afterlife w/ Archie with the same cast for Season 2..
This "mash up" has been done for ages in comic books, but I'd love to see more of it in non-super hero properties like this. Archie: In Space, Scooby Doo: Romance, Dexter's Lab... of horrors.
When everything is a subversion, it stops being a subversion and becomes its own trope. That's what Zack Snyder never understood, and why the DCEU is in the shape it is. Snyder did a great job on Watchmen without realizing the original comics were groundbreaking because it subverted what had been rock-solid, iron-clad tropes up to that time. He then took the same subverted sensibilities and applied them to the DCEU which, instead of being subversive, just became pointlessly and obnoxiously grimdark.
Tone and subversion weren't the problem with the dceu films. If the screenplays were good, people wouldn't have minded the tone and the subversion.
That's the point; if everything is subversion, nothing is subversion. The definition of subversion is what defies expectation. When you subvert everything, it just becomes the new normal. Four colour comics were bright, cheerful, colourful, and optimistic. It's why people liked them. Snyder's new "normal" was the inversion of that, with a washed out colour pallette and grim, gritty tone -- and people dislike it. Just because you enjoy some mustard on your burger doesn't mean you want a plate full of mustard.
What you said about subversion applies to the Last Jedi but it does not apply to Batman V Superman.
@@thomasstull868 LOL. No it definitely applies to Batman vs Superman. The Last Jedi's problem wasn't the subversion, hell if anything that was the good part of that movie. The problem was the writing to get us to the subversion, characters making nonsensical decisions, the whole space casino visit, the pointless chase through the city, or even how they just dial up Maz out of nowhere for access to a 'code breaker" which is something a military outfit should already have access to. And that's not even getting into the idea of keeping soldiers out of the loop just because or the iffy nature of the light speed jump following technology. Or the stakes for the whole thing being "we're running out of gas".
In short they could have brought the whole thing together in a much more cohesive and human way just by having there be a traitor in their ranks and that traitor be Rose.
Del Toro would have been her opposite number in the First Order and when they meet, the reveal being that it was her sister dying at the beginning, even brings it full circle with us the audience realizing that she realized too late that actions have consequences. And it would have rang all the more true for Del Toro's character to give that speech about it just being an unending cycle with the First order and the Rebellion, thus being a literal bit of symbolism about the struggles of the light and dark sides of the Force. Which at this point would be Ray and Kylo respectively as Kylo proved himself dark lord by killing his master as every apprentice must and Ray being what's left after Luke sacrificed himself to give the galaxy an undying hope.
I never read Archie comics as a child, and my first experience with Archie comics was Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, followed by Jughead The Hunger, Chilling Adventures In Sorcery, Vampironica, and most recently Afterlife With Archie. So for me they are not subverted or dark-edgy-grim versions of the characters, they are just the characters, and I love them! 😍
I also loved Zack Snyder's DCEU vision. I just like dark things, is that a problem? 😝
I've been reading the Chilling Adventures of Sabrina and it's been an amazing ride. I'm so excited for the show!
Just wanted to say thanks for getting me into Archie Horror. I picked up a few single issues of some of these books but it wasn't till your video that I picked up all the trades. The art and atmosphere is stunning. And now the Sabrina show is on just in time.
Worth mentioning that my first exposure to Roberto Aguirre-Sacassa was his comic book adaptation of Stephen King’s The Stand. So, triply perfect guy to write this series.
Would be quadruply if he had any sense of schedule, it's been around 4 years since the last issue
No mention of the original Vampironica story from the back of Cherry Poptart #1? That comic there prepped me at a young age for all the horror books of late.
Came here for this comment. Vampironica worked really hard to get backstage!
I recently read the Sabrina comic, The Chilling Adventures, I liked it a lot.
I love Riverdale but like
It’s getting out of hand...REALLY
I started reading Archie comics after reading Afterlife with Archie. The story and the art is amazing!
Archie vs Predator was really good.
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The ending was weird as fuck tho.
I just hope they don't stop making the old funny stuff tho. I don't mind them reprinting the old ones into digests cuz those are forever golden.
I don't follow Archie anything. However, the horror books are pure dynamite. If the Sabrina show stay faithful to the material it will be a smash, runaway hit.
2020 here. I realy was a smash hit
Haven't read them but of course I started hearing more and more about Archie's bizarre revival over the past few years. I knew it was kind of cool when they featured The Ramones on one cover. Still having no idea of the backstory of the guy who updated and revived the whole line...the whole thing is amazing! From cease-and-desist in Atlanta to given the keys to the whole saccharine Archie kingdom. Holy shit!
Man I don't think I'll ever actually read this series, but your synopsis of the various plot points--Jughead leader of zombies, incestuous relationship ending in inevitable Greek tragedy, and H.P. Lovecraft!? What a wildly imaginative and fertile series,
The quality of your show is disproportionate to your amount of viewers and subscribers. You are great man! Keep going!!! Finding your show was a great gift!
Awesome vid, Chris! This video blows my mind. I had absolutely no idea that Archie comics even ventured into territory beyond comedy and gags, other than the death of Archie which my daughter had mentioned to me a few years back. I may have to check the zombie storyline out...sounds intriguing. Thanks for posting this.
Enjoyed the review. As a guy I often felt embarrassed by my enjoyment of Archie, but I think DeCarlo is a great, under-rated artist. Those 60s/70s issues are so great to look at. Yeah, the stories are ridiculous, but visually they are so much fun. I always enjoyed them as a kind of pallet-cleaner between issues of Daredevil
Thank you so much for the shout out!! I really enjoy your videos and im glad I could do some fan art for you. Keep being awesome!
I assumed the book was cancelled since it has been so long since we got an issue. Great series. Chilling, emotional, well written.
Also I've never seen manga utilized in Free Comic Book day. It's such an enlightened choice that Boku No Hero was given that treatment/exposure (not that it needed it) given it's American superhero sensibilities/aesthetic
Afterlife with Archie and Chilling Adventures of Sabrina are both amazing but it's been years since a new release. Jughead the Hunger and Vampironica are both great too!
Its taken me many years to really appreciate Archie. Probably the most popular character in light humoured comics ever. However giving it a different twist in later Archie comics was a right move to do.
My guy I love everything about your channel (that "cold" open was adorable)
I came in as an Archie fan and an Archie horror fan/enthusiast and yet I learned so much from this. It brightened my day. Even though the views are low keep doing stuff like this. It's an absolute pleasure.
Your laudatory speech, in addition of seeing some of the panels, convinced me. They communicate a lot through the brooding atmosphere of the red tinted lighting. I can see the influence of Pet Sematary, among other zombie movies. Thanks for your insight about some comics I, a frenchman, can't really know since they aren't distributed overseas.
Keep up the good work chris you are the hero the comic community needs.
The Archie horror books are fantastic. I particularly like Sabrina. It’s VERY dark and creepy.
I originally bought my first Archie Horror titles as the Jughead Werewolf VS. Veronica Vampire mini series. Just today I found the Jughead The Hunger Volume 2 collection in store. Decided to buy all 3 The Hunger Volumes as ebooks.
While I've always had a fondness for the "classic" Archie comics, I may have to give these horror comics a try. After seeing this video, they look pretty cool!
This is really cool. I might have to get Archie comics for Halloween.
MAD magazine even did a spoof on the "what if Archie married..."- line with Archie dating Jughead. That one was funny! XD It's still feels really weird seeing Archie in different art style and in a more serious tone, I'm more used to the original comics and the 90's cartoon-version. Same thing with Sabrina, so weird seeing a more serious version of it and I'm more used to the sitcom version (had no idea that Sabrina: The Teenage Witch was based on a comic and that it took place in the Archie-verse back then).
The Afterlife with Archie is the only one I read, but I got Sabrina in a recent Humble Bundle, and I want to say that the infrequent schedule isn't that much of a problem. The issues, while telling a continuous story, are done-in-ones and pretty dense. Each one is a satisfactory piece in itself and even if they might never continue them, this shouldn't make people afraid to read them. Although there are some big twists and mysteries, they're much more honest than The Walking Dead, which maintains lots of momentum with last page reveals.
Great episode! Have you ever considered doing an episode about Femforce? It’s by AC comics and is still running but I’ve never really heard much about it.
Thanks for going so in-depth with this! Keep up the good work and God bless you man!
There is currently a cross-over series published by Dynamite called "Red Sonja and Vampirella Meet Betty and Veronica." It's good so far. :)
You should make a video talking about the Maximortal
I really really loved the Afterlife with Archie until the insane delays made me lose interest. I honestly can’t remember the plot anymore. I distinctly remember enjoying it so much. I may revisit it someday.
The "Archie's Weird Mysteries" show was basically a precursor to how Archie Horror is today, and it was many peoples (including me) introduction to the spooky side of Archie n the gang & riverdale
My first exposure to Archie comics was when the TV series Sabrina the teenage witch came out on TV
Afterlife with Archie would also make a fantastic tv show. good stuff!
I love AWA. The new Sabrina comic actually got my wife into reading comics! :).
This really helped me with an assignment. Thank you :)
My mom's favorite comic growing up was Archie, I wonder what she'd think of that book. It looks like the way horror books should be written.
Great video Chris! Think you've sold me on a few issues of afterlife with archie
This looks really interesting, I'll have to check them out 👍 Your channel will keep growing I think, your passion and knowledge for the medium really comes across in these videos
Hah! I almost put Greg Smallwood in my fav. artists list on your stream last night. He'd surely be in my top 10 list.
Thanks for this informative video. I have been interested in these comics for a while. I love Sabrina and Riverdale is amazing too. Defiantly gonna check these out now. Going to Fayetteville Comic-Con tomorrow, gonna try to find some of these, thanks again.
This is an awesome video. Great job with all the intel. Love it.
The Josie and the Pussycats movie was surprisingly funny.
I don't always think horror always works in comics outside of existential dread as opposed to jump scares.
I like the two timelines story.
Great review on the Archie Horror comics! Have you considered reading or reviewing the Betty & Veronica comics by Adam Hughes? Now there's some incredible art!
Ah i remember my 1st Archie experience.... it was at my Gradeschool library... and Jughead... selling his only feature keeping him alive at this point... to a witch
My problem with the Archie horror line is that it's a part of this recent trend of making adult twists on stuff we read and watched as kids. Scooby Doo gang vs the apocalypse. A mature take on the Flintstones. Blade Runner style Jetsons. Wacky Races mixed with Mad Max. On and on. What's next, Casper merged with the Exorcist? Wendy: Demon Hunter? I'm tired of seeing beloved childhood properties turned into grimdark and gory stuff: there's nothing wrong with things being lighthearted and fun. The best thing I've read from Archie recently is their update of The Fox, a hero from Archie's superhero line Red Circle, which they've seemingly abandoned. It was actually fun, something comics don't really seem to do anymore.
It's better than doing nothing different with the properties.
@@waterking74 If you like it, fine, but that doesn't make it better. Also, making dark & twisted versions of normally fun and silly things isn't different or original; tons of comic book publishers have done the same.
I agree for the most part, but the new Flintstones comic is fantastic. The cartoon became more and more aimed at children as it went along, but at its inception it was supposed to be a satirical take on modern life meant for adults, which the new comic captures brilliantly.
I never read Archie comics as a child, and my first experience with Archie comics was Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, followed by Jughead The Hunger, Chilling Adventures In Sorcery, Vampironica, and most recently Afterlife With Archie. So for me they are not subverted or dark-edgy-grim versions of the characters, they are just the characters, and I love them! 😍
I'd actually argue that Archie started that trend. I'd say the only reason DC started doing those Hanna Barbara series was because of the Life with Archie/Afterlife with Archie's surprise success. The regular Archie (New Riverdale) title is very much in a "young adult" vein and there are still the Classic Archie style comics being produced as well so they're doing something for everyone. I'd say that the imaginative use of their IP has tapped into new markets and demographics that probably never would have gotten into Archie. I loved Archie as a kid and those digests were the first comic books I read as they were right in the check out aisle at the grocery store and in the few spinner racks there were left at the time, but its not something I'd gone back to in decades. Being in my mid-40s, like every other aging Gen-Xer out there, I feel awash in nostalgia as every piece of corporate IP of my youth is updated and released to pull cash out of the wallets of 40-60 year olds with disposable income. This has all been a big gamble for Archie but seems to have paid off. Fortunately, they were super lucky to end up with Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa who turned to be a pretty good writer and hit the jackpot with Francesco Francavilla as he really started hit it big. I admire them for taking chances. A lot of what makes these new stories work is the nostalgia associated with Archie and the very classic character templates honed by the simple comic strip-style stories told over the decades.
I wouldn't say any of the Hanna Barbara stuff is necessarily dark (nowhere near as dark as Afterlife with Archie). I also wouldn't say the bulk of it has been very good. The Flintstones and Snagglepuss Chronicles have been more standout exceptions rather than the norm. The Dastardly & Muttly took a pretty dark turn at the end but it was written by Garth Ennis so that was not unexpected. I do find it interesting that, even with the critical success of Mark Russell's Flinstones and Snagglepuss, the only one of those titles that has had the most staying power is the terrible Scooby Apocalypse comic penned by a couple of 60+ year olds and, since they backed off from the more realistic art style, is the only one that is still ongoing at 30 issues. As with all comics, if you don't like it, don't read it. There's something for everyone.
I love Afterlife with Archie and The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina! They're really so good!
That one panel of Vegas telling Archie to run just destroyed me.
Great episode! Truthfully I loved Archie Comics but I haven't picked up one in years I was aware of this horror series didn't think much of it but since you're giving it such a good review I'll definitely go and check some of it out( especially vamperonica not to be TMI guy but I swear to God I had a half dream / fantasy of that exact thing only with Betty as well when I was a kid, maybe the only time I found vampires sexy( I had a few years to go before Melinda May in Lifeforce!) lol). Thanks.
one of the first ways i read comics was by way of my sister's archie comics,.....(loved those giant annuals from the 60s,....) so, i am fairly familiar w/the archie characters,.....riverdale, etc. so, i had 1 strike starting out.
then, they hire francavilla for the art duties and he does the interior and cover.
franca's art is dramatic w lots of black, halftones and intense colors,......strike two.
then the story was sound and well crafted #3.
i liked the book alot and would recommend buying it, its a way to take some classic characters and put a different spin on them plus francavilla does the entire interior, a rarity these days as hes more of a cover artist now.
5:30 - completely agree. they are damn good stories - a great take on the archieverse (btw not an adult fan of archie - last read them when i was about 11)
You never had to know decades of Archie continuity, because the classic Archie material was basically just self-contained jokes and humor, with the occasional mystery-type story. Just about any issue would let you know who the characters were and their relationships.
But while it's nice to see what they're doing with the new stuff, you completely overlooked their 70s attempt at horror.
Under the Red Circle Comics imprint, *Chilling Adventures in Sorcery as Told by Sabrina* kicked off in October of 1973. What was funny was even though they were trying to tell weirder stories, they were still done in the Archie house style of art. But with the third issue, they gave that up, dropped Sabrina as host, and Gray Morrow became editor, and also drew most of the stories, which were now more typical of the type of horror stories DC and Marvel were doing in the early 70s. With issue #6, they changed the title to *Red Circle Sorcery.* Alas, they cancelled it with issue #11. But it was fun while it lasted.
In the 80's they used the Red Circle imprint to re-use their Golden Age and Silver Age superheroes, like The Black Hood, The Shield, The Fly, The Mighty Crusaders, etc.
As far as I know, Archie's Red Circle imprint had no relation to the Red Circle Comics published in the 1940s by Rural Home/Croydon Publications.
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When Archie comics recently published the trade paperback of Chilling Adventures In Sorcery vol 1, I purchased it, and it was brilliant! I really hope they publish vol 2, and I would love to see a new ongoing series of it with Sabrina back as the host, but done in a style similar to Bernie Wrightson's art.
Have you ever covered hellblazer? I searched, but could not find any.
Italian artist..? Manara?!? Milo Manara!!!
Yes! Please! Second that ...
Completely agree with you, but this is youtube. Would Chris be able to show any Guido Crepax drawings at all? :-(
All of that please!!!!!!!! And some Magnus !!!!!Greetings from Italy =)
I like afterlife alot, chilling tales is good too, but it's alot darker. I'd give my younger cousins afterlife to read and spook them maybe, but chilling tales is a little more mature. either way, both are great. I'm looking forward to catching up on jughead the hunger.
Chris you’re comic channel is great! Can you please make a video about Brian k Vaughn’s paper girls?!?!
Took me a while to start watching Utube, but well worth the viewing. As always.
So sabrina is the bride of cthulhu? Cool
The story went nowhere
Another great show mate, very enjoyable, never knew Sabrina came from Archie.
I love all these series.
You didn't bring up the actual best subversion of Archie, Criminal volume 6, The Last of the Innocent. Took the horror but gave it back to real life. They changed all the names, but I like Criminal better than Afterlife.
I just might check out this comic now.
Afterlife with Archie was a fantastic comic, then it was just gone.
I hope it comes back once Roberto is finished with Riverdale, though I have no faith in that
Did they ever reach a conclusion? This be a great movie
Great video, keep up the great work!
An Italian artist, you say...Pratt? Mattotti?! Manara? Crepax? Hhhm...I'm looking forward to it whoever it is.
The attraction of these series is the wholesome Archie brand juxtaposed with these horrific events. AWA and CAOS were good, but I don't think the enthusiasm for the "Archie Edgelord" era will last.
I never read Archie comics as a child, and my first experience with Archie comics was Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, followed by Jughead The Hunger, Chilling Adventures In Sorcery, Vampironica, and most recently Afterlife With Archie. So for me they are not subverted or dark-edgy-grim versions of the characters, they are just the characters, and I love them! 😍
"The attraction of these series is the wholesome Archie brand juxtaposed with these horrific events." Nailed it, pal.
"I think the Archie Comics yes should have changes
but,
it depends what those changes are
having the characters age is alright
but I think they should always stay
a humorous comic series and stay away
from dramatic stories,the horror storylines
only if they have humorous stories,
But....the After Life comics,No I didn't like that,
the current series haven't seen it because
it just didn't have an appeal to it for me,
the Kevin Keller character & stories they
are okay to a certain extent,
But....
All comics have changed
From Superheroes to other genres,DC,Marvel,&Etcetera,
good or bad,its all out of the hands of the fans,
we fans just have either like it or not,that's LIFE
R.I.P. Stan Lee,
&:
as for Bill Maher he can just mind his own business,
have a great new year,thanks.
Thanks Chris, again excellent video, I love it.
Can't believe i'm not the only one who knows Archie Horror.
Digging your intros
Afterlife with Archie would be great if issues ever came out
You should do another vid with Phoenix Jones
I found Afterlife with Archie to just be rather mean and miserable. I don't care for it, but mazeltov if anyone else likes it. Not my cuppa. Really, none of the modern Archie output, from this stuff, to the modern Archie books to Riverdale is for me.
Same. Too damn dark and depressing.
You haven't read Herogasm, The Boys or Crossed...now that's mean spirited.
I have. Herogasm is part of the overall Boys... experience, and the initial Crossed mini was pretty dreadful, imo. Both books are quite mean spirited (even if Boys does have a heart in it somewhere. I'm never quite sure what to make of the series as a whole, because I actually quite like some of it, but find the rest of it to be pretty eye-rollingly dumb and gross). They don't, however, star the fun loving teens of everyone's childhood since the 1940s.
I don't want to read about Archie having to decide whether or not he has to cave in his zombie dad's brain with a baseball bat. It's not my thing.
Did you not like the Mark Waid stuff from the last few years? Nowhere near as bleak as this or Riverdale.
Is that the Toxic Avenger in the thumbnail?
Short? He had like a 30 issue run of Marvel Knights 4
I just came here for chilling adventures of sabrina
oooooh,Deadly Class, that's good!
If there was a comic company that didnt need to grow up, it was Archie. Shit got weird man...
Afterlife with Archie is just awesome
Except no ending
Please, Chris - start putting the names in a separate bag/box as the Gatchapons, some of those slips of paper must fall between the Gatchapons, am I the only one with OCD thinking that alters the winner?? Keep up the great work!
Don't know if this helps, but random is random is random. ;-)
Oh sure - I fully admit it's my OCD
Hey guys, I am interest into getting into horror comics? Any suggestion? Either gore, or extremely dark and suspenseful.
Junji ito. Comic tropes also reviewed him
@@yellowpeas6636 yeah, I'll check him out
Tales from the Crypt, Vault of Horror, House of Secrets, House of Mystery, Creepy, Eerie, Vampirella, Chilling Adventures In Sorcery, The Creeps, The Crow, Spawn, Darkchylde, Witchblade, The Darkness, The Walking Dead, Dead-Man, Sandman, there are so many good horror comics out there.
Was that a Huggabunch doll? :)
People kept fucking saying it was when it came out lol
Next Week is Dylan Dog?
Might be mistaken for a Robin. Should've gone with a pork-pie hat.
Archie really hit big time now
For the better
I care not for riverdale
So is it kinda like scooby apocalypse?
I feel the need to correct a couple of pronunciations: Hiram is pronounced High-rum. Aguirre is pronounced Ah-gear-eh.
I would say yes.
I enjoy them